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Music.

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I'm Leslie Reed. Welcome back, everybody, to the Haunting You Podcast.

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And happy May. We are so excited to have you here.

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Okay, full disclosure. I do this all the time. I say when the episode's coming

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out, but I need full disclosure. It is March still when we are recording this.

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And so just please keep that in mind as you hear our discussion.

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Some things may change between now and when it actually gets released.

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And that's kind of key to understand. It happens, right?

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But May is a very exciting time in the haunt world.

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Let's see what has happened in what has happened in April. Haunt Fest has happened.

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Fear Expo has happened. I will be at Fear. I was at Fear Expo.

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See, this is a part of podcasting that no one ever talks about.

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Try making sure that you're, you're properly accurate.

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Exactly. Exactly. But the East Coast Haunters Convention also will have happened

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by the time this comes out. So the next thing to look forward to will, We'll, of course,

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be Midwest Hunters up in Rosemont, Illinois, June 7th to the 9th.

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And then the Chamber of Hunters official convention, Texas Hunters Convention,

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July 13th to the 14th, all happening in the next couple of months.

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Oh, and I have to throw out there, Midsummer Scream, July 20...

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I don't have the new dates for Midsummer Scream on here yet.

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Midsummer Scream is coming. I'm going to cut all of this out.

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You're never going to know that I said anything about Midsummer Scream. You are not.

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Yeah we'll see what happens how often does he actually cut

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something when he says he's gonna cut something almost never you'll never know

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because if it's cut you'll never know that's all i'm saying yes but i remember

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what we said yeah that that is accurate before we dive into our topic for today

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we we have a a matter of great import that we must discuss i mean great import.

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Maybe going too far. John, I am deeply concerned about you, and we need to have

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just a mini intervention here for just a moment. And specifically, more so than usual.

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More so than usual is accurate. Like, John has decided to get creative.

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I put everything back. John's getting fancy with the spices.

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That's what's happening. John is getting fancy with the spices.

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I'm not fully sure you understand the full extent of that saying,

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my friend. I'm not sure you do.

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He and i came up with it i don't think you a few days ago john sent us a picture

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via our group text of green ice cream that he had made he claims it is ice cream

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by the way i'm not totally buy into that but he claims it was ice cream and what flavor was it john,

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This is, I would say, like a Mountain Dew infused ice cream.

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Maybe flavor is too much. He is making Mountain Dew ice cream. But this is not like...

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First off, I don't think it's real ice cream because real ice cream,

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you put all the ingredients in the bucket with some ice and the salt on it and

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then you crank it around a whole bunch of times. There's the thing. You don't need to do any of that. You can.

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But that's what makes it ice cream. What about an ice cream maker? It's a maker. It does not require...

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That's exactly what it's doing! It's just doing it automatically! No.

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So how did you make this, is my question to you, sir? So, it was three ingredients.

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It was only three ingredients. It was heavy whipping cream, some sweetened condensed milk, and one cup of Mountain Dew Zero Sugar.

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That is not ice cream. That is frozen whipped cream.

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Also, that is not Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew has sugar.

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That's like 90% of the point. I figured I was already kind of tempting fate

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by making 10% is caffeine. I figured I'd use a reel in it just a smidge. Go ahead.

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Defend yourself, man. Yes, defend yourself, man. What gave you the idea to even do this?

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I saw on social media that Taco Bell was bringing out Baja Blast Mountain Dew Gelato.

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And I was just like, you know what? What the hell?

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For $5, I can do something similar. Why not? And how did your experiment turn out?

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You know, not good and not bad. It was fine. It was fine.

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How did it taste? I'll put it this way. So it did. It tasted like...

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Like... You need vanilla ice cream with a slight Mountain Dew hit to it.

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It does not knock you over with Mountain Dew flavor or sugar or anything like that. It's very subtle.

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I remember... I would say like a B-. I remember like a C-.

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I remember very vividly when we were in high school, and we went to Cold Stone,

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the ice cream shop one day, and they had...

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A Mountain Dew-flavored...

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I don't remember what it was. Flushy or milkshake or float. I don't know.

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Maybe a float. Something like that. But I remember drinking that and being so fucking buzzed.

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Just an uncomfortable amount of energy after that.

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And I imagine it's what being on speed is like.

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Like that's that's kind of how i relate it

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you know having never tried speed and i

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know someone listened to this to be

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clear you got yourself in a bit of a hole there didn't you

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but no i always does there you

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go but for those of our listeners saying like you're

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just a bunch of couple of stupid high school kids when you know it's caffeine

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which is true but this this was

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different this i my only

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thought is way beyond any caffeine buzz i have had in my life

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to this date and like the military is known for its i'm going to say caffeine

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consumption and i have consumed an uncomfortable amount of caffeine wait how

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do you consume caffeine you do not like coffee energy drinks i'm not allowed

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to have those no no you get stabby no No.

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I mean, just imagine a Tasmanian devil with scissors.

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Yes, accurate, accurate. But I bring that story up because that is what I imagine

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you making Mountain Dew ice cream will create.

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Nothing good can come from this experiment. Nothing bad happens.

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And then I took pictures of the scoops, and I sent it to you,

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and I sent it to our friend Ryan Festag, who said it looks like ice cream.

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Okay what color did it turn out it was, like like a like a

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mint green yeah why did it turn out mint

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green mr i added green food coloring because it wasn't

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turning any kind of color well because i was looking at it and it was was white

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and i was like oh that's disappointing yes you also are i will say this the

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the intended purpose of this experiment was to have fun and it was enjoyable

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that's why i added the food coloring,

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i'm gonna make you some and you're gonna like i am disappointed in you actually

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you know what that's my point i will i will make you some and you will say what

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i just said you'll be like you know what i would never go and purchase this

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but i wouldn't throw it away either. It is one that you will you know what john immediately forget about bet bet

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i will give you three bucks if you convince me that it is if you convince me to to that level.

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There's more than one way to make ice cream. I don't believe that, to be clear.

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I don't believe that. But we have, I think we've ground this into the ground enough.

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I feel very sorry for our guests now. I've very much enjoyed watching her facial expressions over the course of this

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conversation, though. This does ramble on coherently.

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So, for the last several episodes, we have been diving deep into convention season.

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We talked We talked to Doug Sheldon, who is the owner of HauntCon.

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We talked to Roseanne Harpold, the owner of HauntFest.

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We, ideally, this hasn't happened

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yet, but should, will have Doug Sheldon back to talk about Fear Expo.

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And then, of course, we'll be doing our live show from the floor of Fear Expo.

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It will have already happened. Anyway, the last several episodes have been very

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focused on convention season. But now that we are past the majority of convention season, we want to start

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looking ahead to this Halloween.

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And I am super excited because we brought a very special guest on today to talk

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about what they are doing. So if you've listened to the podcast at all, and if you haven't,

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go back and listen to our previous episodes. Because first of all, they're fire.

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Why are you not listening to them? But all of that aside, I have been working

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with a local haunted house here in Fremont, California, where I have been living

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for the last year and a half. And it is absolutely phenomenal.

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It has been around for like 50 some years. Well, 55?

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She's signaling me over the thing. It has been around for 55 years now.

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And it's been such a cool experience to be part of this community tradition,

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running into people who came to the Ghost House as children,

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now are coming back and bringing their own children.

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And getting to be a part of that has just been such a cool experience and something

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I have seen nowhere else in the haunt industry. It has been a pleasure and a privilege to work closely with this organization

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over the last year and a half to help them bring their visions to life.

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And I have had so much fun. But now I am leaving, going back to the opposite coast and cannot do nearly

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what I want to for them this year. So...

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Instead, I'm doing the little bit that I can, helping on the back-end design

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work, and then I'll just kind of hand everything off and let them run with it.

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But today, I want to introduce Miss Annette Bergdahl, one bad witch,

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the president of the Candlelighters of Fremont, California, who is here to talk

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about the Ghost House, the Candlelighters, and everything that they are going to be doing this year.

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So Annette, welcome to the Haunting You podcast. I am so excited to have you here.

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I'm so excited. And you keep talking about all the haunts,

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and I'm excited that I get to go to two of them so yeah i

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like to i like to think that i've had a positive influence on on the

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organization if nothing else i have convinced annette to go to midsummer scream

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and fear expo this year so like that that was that's a huge win by itself excited

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very very excited the it was received very well with the members as well telling

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me to i need to find this and I need to find that.

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And so I'm kind of excited. So it's... Now you have a shopping list.

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I have a shopping list and vendors and things like that that we need to find. So I'm super excited.

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I told the girl that's going with me, Caroline, since we were able to secure

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two VIP passes to Midsummer Scream, I am super excited for that.

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And we get to go to the dinner on Saturday night. So I told her we need to come

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up with the best witch costumes ever. Absolutely. You need to come up with the best witch costumes ever.

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I'm so excited for that, yes. But thank you very much for having me. I'm very much excited.

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And I'm a little intrigued about the Mountain Dew ice cream,

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but, you know, if it weren't up for two days after eating it,

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then it wasn't true Mountain Dew. Sorry. Please don't encourage him. She've got me there, honestly.

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Yeah, you know, anyway. Yeah. So, Annette, first off, tell us,

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what are the candlelighters? What is the candlelighters? I knew nothing about this coming before I got here.

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So the candlelighters started with, in 1969, there were about,

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I don't know, 7 to 10 women. Who wanted to do something for the community. And because they wanted to do

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something for the community, they wanted to put together a ghost house.

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And so they did. And they wanted to raise money for the local YMCA.

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And they ended up doing it and pulled it off. And that's kind of how it started.

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They opened it up to other nonprofits.

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And it started in 1969. And this is our 55th year.

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But we are a nonprofit that gives back to other nonprofits in the Tri-Valley.

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So we we have given things

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away from beds to oh my

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gosh the list of people that we've given to to name a there's like over 200

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and like the ymca center the children's center the multiple sclerosis breakfast

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programs children's programs repertory theaters special olympics the age center

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Math Nucleus, Niles Depot,

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Planetarium, all kinds of senior center stuff from the Ronald McDonald House, you name it.

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There's over 300 people that we've given to.

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And in the 50 years, it's over two and a half mil that we've given back. That is phenomenal.

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And something that I didn't fully understand, people apply for grants with the

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candlelighters, but you only are able to fund certain things.

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Can you talk a little bit about the eligibility? We fund certain things. So we can't do consumables.

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We have to do things like a printer without the ink, things like that.

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If you want bends, that's great. It can't be something that somebody can take

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from the person who gave it to, And so it's, it's a little bit of a process and there is a proposal committee

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that gets together and they go through and they figure out if it meets our criteria.

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There are on the website, there are different forms and things to fill out and

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you have to give us what you want and three examples of what you want,

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the high, the low and medium bit. And we'll go from there. And it's been pretty nice.

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Last year, we gave away at January's meeting, the luncheon we had in January was $69,000.

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We gave to, I believe it was nine organizations.

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That's a good year right there. Yeah, it was really good. It was really good. It was super fun.

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Very busy. Not last year, the year before last. It was very fun because Channel

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7 showed up on the last night. I know. They interviewed me and I had Mortimer Ghost on my hip.

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It was a blast. Absolutely amazing.

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The cameraman wouldn't leave the haunt he stayed

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in the house and i'm like dude how long he stayed until

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nine o'clock that was no joke they got there at seven and they were there for two hours

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that's outstanding it was great it was

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the best night ever i'm like honey can you come at the beginning not the

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end yeah you know it was it was oh it was so

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much fun and a lot of the customer for the

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all the patrons are like there's a camera inside i'm like

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i know just scream and holler and

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out the show notes because i'll put a link to that channel 7 news clip

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uh that they did that year it was

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fun it was very fun but but there's all kinds of

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things that you can come for there's we did sheds

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this year we did beds we did equipment for the senior center they were looking

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for new chairs we did a park benches and let's see park benches and i want to

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say bicycle Rex for a home gardens here in Fremont, which I didn't even know it was there.

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It's a, it's a gorgeous park of mission, but that's, that was amazing.

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It's, it's just some really beautiful things. We've done the amphitheater at

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the park, Lake Elizabeth.

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And so that was done by us and the water slides and things like that.

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They're usually put a nice little sign or a plaque where we've done something.

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And so they're, they're all around Fremont, Newark and Union City.

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And if people want to learn more about the

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candle lighters or how to get grants or anything like

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that where should they go to look the website's www.candlelighters.com

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perfect and that's where they'll find it so annette you've been in operation

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for 55 years you have have to have had just some amazing haunts that you put

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on thematically so what are some of your favorites that you've done since you've

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been with the organization? So I've been there for 10 years and I love doing the Vampire Cruise Line.

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Because I did a boiler room. And I had so much fun doing the boiler room.

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Describe it a little for the listeners. Oh my gosh. So the boiler room is,

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I did it the biggest room that we have, and that's room number nine.

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And I don't have the schematics in front of me, but it's a pretty good size room.

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So I took an old fireplace, an electric fireplace that didn't have any of the heat working.

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And I used that in the corner. And that was my bottom of the boiler.

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So I had body parts coming out of that, that blood dripping everywhere.

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I had a above that I had a grim reaper type standing behind him with a,

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an ax putting things into the boiler.

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Nice. And then from the ceiling, I had, you know, the, I don't know what they're

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called, but the piping that you use on the back of the dryer. So yeah. Yeah. Okay. The ducting. Oh my gosh.

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So I put that all over the top on the walls and everywhere. It looked like you were walking through.

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It was so fun. It was just so, so fun.

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And then we had skeletons hanging off this corner and that corner.

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And it was really cool. It was just really, really cool. That was my very first one.

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And from there, it has been a net on candy.

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It's gone from one thing to the next. So I did not get to do one in scary land.

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So that kind of stunk the web wait say that

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one more time i didn't get to get to do a room in scary

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land scary land in scary land scary land was

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already done i was like ha this kind of sucked but that's

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okay i got to witch a lot that year and so

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the witching is fun so i get to dress up as a witch i

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get to go scare all the children so that's just the web was

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fun so then the web i did a total

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cobweb where we had a mummy all wrapped

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up and he was on a tree and hanging from the tree that was

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amazing solid shadow of the vampire that was

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a pretty good one so we had a crypt kind of thing in

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again room nine because i like to take the biggest room and we

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had kids in the room and one of them was a vampire and if i

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remember correctly he was inside the coffin so that was kind of ghost house

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50th year i don't remember i think that was just the ghouls and the goblins

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nothing spectacular but crazed carnival was fun i ended up with a smaller room

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and i wanted to do a room and crazed carnival,

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I did a...

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Let's see how to explain this. I took, when you look between two tarps and you

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have the stripes on the outside of the tarps, you look like you're looking through

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the outside of two circus tents.

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Okay. Yeah. That's what I put on the walls. And then over one circus tent coming

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out like a, it almost looked like the cartoon where a guy was coming out of

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a box where the things were all bent.

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And I had the top half of the Yeti coming out and he was escaping from the greatest carnivore.

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I like it. That's awesome. And in the corner, we had the popcorn machine and

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the popcorn machine was popping eyeballs. So that was, we had a lot of fun with that.

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And dripping things from the kettle and things like that. So that was super fun.

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I love doing that one. I got a lot of looks of, you did what to the popcorn machine?

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It's a problem. It doesn't work. I promise it doesn't work.

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But it was fun. Oh man, I had a great time with that. And then we had, what else did we do?

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There was No House Through COVID through 21, which kind of stunk,

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but Witches Through Time, I helped with the main room on that one.

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And that was a really good collaboration. We had all kinds of just witches throughout time. So there was a,

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There was a room that had the witch from Niles, which was a good room.

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We had, oh my gosh, it's just last year.

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This is the first one I helped with. But I'm so into mine this year.

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Oh, I'm sure. I know it. I know it. I loved Witches Through Time because it took elements from so many different

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stories and put them all together. So the Blair Witch was there, the witch from The Wizard of Oz, Ursula, the sea witch.

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All of them. And it was really fun. Did you do Baba Yaga?

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Huh? Did you do Baba Yaga? There was no Baba Yaga, but they did have like a

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Norse, like a Norse witch. Yes, we did have the Norse witch. That was good. And then we had a,

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the, is it, I say it wrong every time. Apacarkey?

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Apacarkey. That's it. Thank you. Apacarkey. I say it wrong every single time.

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Yeah. But that room was cool because we had a, one of the girls made an actual

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wit out of an Alhambra jug.

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That was pretty awesome. it was hysterical the head and

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stuff on top and she had the the crystal ball

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but she did an amazing room all along the

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back different bottles and things like that that she found

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that were just absolutely the best to see and the

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she made all the labels and everything on it it was a really cool room

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yeah that that room was a great case study in scenic design it was absolutely

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beautifully done i don't know where she found all the bottles but phenomenal

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the dracula room was far so we had Had one of the bigger coffins set on two sawhorses.

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This was now last year. This was last year. Not much is through time. This was Voodoo on the Bayou.

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Oh, Voodoo on the Bayou. Sorry, wrong year.

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But last year's was good too. But Voodoo on the Bayou, Keone had some great

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ideas on how to make a swamp and we ran with it.

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And it was so good.

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Oh my gosh. It was, it was the highlight. It was so good. But all the rooms

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last year were so detailed. It was so fun.

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And, but they, everything from color to the lights, to everything, it was just so nice.

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So, so nice, but it was good. It was really, really good.

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But I, I, I plan on doing mine is like the house on steroids.

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So hold that thought. Cause we'll, get there before

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we get there talk a little bit

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about like the setup of the

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house you've got like the it's very unusual

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from any other haunted house i have ever worked with so what this is is we are

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very fortunate to have access to what is a carriage house and it's last standing

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house in fremont and when you say carriage house you mean like the house that

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carriages used to be stored in. Hoax, horse and buggies. There were horse stalls in there.

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It was the old carriage house. And if you were to look at it and if nothing

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else was around it, there used to be one of the stalls because as you look at

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it, it's got the great big barn door in the front. It's got a great porch.

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And as you look inside to the left, there's a tack room.

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And then to the right, you have stairs that go up to the upper part of the house,

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which we're not allowed in. And then... Beyond those stairs on the same side are all the stalls. One of the stalls had

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a wall put up because before it went out and where the restaurant sits next

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to us right now used to be an extension of the stalls.

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And so it used to be in its heyday. It was absolutely gorgeous.

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It's still such a cool building. It is. They're redoing a few things.

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They're doing a new roof, I believe, this year. Oh, good. We would like to see

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if we could paint it for them as part of the grant process. We're going to try

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to get that done this year, but it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful building.

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Everything inside is mahogany and it's just gorgeous.

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It's just, yeah, that's the floor, the walls, everything is just gorgeous.

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And there it's, it's, it's a sight to see.

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It's a really a sight to see. It is, but like, that's just the first part of

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the house. It's the first part. So it's a very limited a limited

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space so how do you turn it into a

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haunted house so we have our nice construction team has built walls and so what

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we do is you can't attach anything to the sides but you can attach anything

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to the floor so because the floor of the house was originally dirt i imagine

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so so the candle lighters put a put a floor down in there we put

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a floor in and every now and then we have to replace some boards,

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but depending on how heavy stuff is in the house, but it it's holding up great.

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And the guys put, we have a bunch of spots where we have electrical.

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So we have access to all different types of things.

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And what's really cool is the tack room. We still kind of use that as a hidden gem.

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So if, when we put our walls up, you make it so somebody can come out of that as well.

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So, but you, you put up your path and And it's different every year.

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Most of the time, you'll go in, turn left, and then you turn right at the end

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of the hallway and you see a big space. And that's what we work with. We've had a couple of the people in the past who

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have done all types of walls and made it more of a maze where you have to go

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in and around and then go up the ramp into the next part of the house.

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The next part of the house consists of two trailers.

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And the only way I can describe those are like the old construction trailers.

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Yeah, like mobile home trailers.

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It's like a mobile home trailer. And so they sit right next to each other.

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One sits all the way to the right. So you're coming in the back door.

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The other one sits a little bit up. So when you go through it,

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you're going through one and all the way through it in a maze.

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And so what the guys did quite a few years ago, they built the rooms that we have.

26:52

And those are the rooms that we get to decorate. So there are 10 rooms in the care in 10 rooms in the.

26:59

The trailers, and then we have one main room. So there's 11 rooms that usually get decorated.

27:04

Yeah. And the way I saw it the last couple of years, the main room kind of ends

27:09

up being, it's what brings the guests into the story.

27:13

Yes. And then the other 10 rooms are your scare zones.

27:17

Exactly. And so it all depends on the theme and it all depends on how the person

27:24

or the president that year sees her thing. So if she sees a big room, she does a big room.

27:29

If she sees something different, then she'll do something different.

27:32

So the president has the opportunity to do whatever she wants with that space.

27:37

Sometimes it drives the workers nuts because sometimes it's not,

27:42

but we have a lot of things. We just were approved to get another trailer for props. So we'll have two big trailers for props.

27:50

But it's really cool. But after that, so we put up a ramp in the front.

27:56

So it's wheelchair accessible. And so the main ramp will go in the door and everything has to be wheelchair accessible.

28:03

So whatever I do has to be wheelchair accessible. And so does the ramps and

28:07

they all have to be ADA approved. And then the exit ramp is the same way it will come back and come down.

28:12

But we also have two midways. So we have two rows that are filled with games and caramel apples and things like that.

28:22

And that's where a lot of the fun happens as well.

28:26

There's a lot of people who don't like to be scared. So we have a fairy line

28:29

and our fairies consists of mostly the 15 to 16 year old girls that come from

28:34

school and they all get their service hours, but they wear a lighted cape and

28:38

the lighted cape is not so scary. But it's really kind of fun.

28:42

The whole thing behind it is still be affordable for all the kids to come in

28:48

and see if you want to come in three or four times, you'll be able to afford it.

28:51

And, and it's still family friendly. So we're trying to, I'm trying to up it

28:56

a little bit this year to be a little bit more scary, but still be family friendly.

29:01

I adore the way that I adore so many things about this house,

29:08

but I love how, as soon as you come out of the,

29:12

the ghost house, house it dumps you right into the

29:15

midway and i love the

29:17

fact i love one that you have a midway because it gives reason

29:21

for people to stick around and spend money and like

29:25

that's where all of the fun happens if it was just the house they go through

29:28

the house they leave nothing else but by having that midway there you have food

29:33

you have you have food and drinks and games and right caramel apples it's a

29:37

caramel apple it's very cheesy you know but it's it's but it's a fun uncheesy.

29:43

It's, you know, it keeps the kids happy. Parents can, they do. Oh my gosh. So we end up with a lot of girl and boy scout troops.

29:50

We had a birthday parties that come down and it's a really fun night that it's

29:54

not going to cost the parent an arm and a leg. Yeah. What, what are ticket costs?

29:58

Ticket costs are $5 to get in. This year, there's going to be a little bit something

30:03

different because my house is a little bit different. I would say,

30:05

hold the thought. We'll talk about that when we get to it. A little bit different, but normally it's $5 to get in.

30:11

But it gets you into the house and you get to... It's a very slow roll.

30:17

We try to make sure everybody's out of the main room before we send the next

30:22

family in to make sure everybody has some experience.

30:25

Yeah. Which I greatly appreciate. and have ranted about endlessly on this podcast.

30:31

Yeah, yeah. It's very nice. The fairy line will go as one group because everybody's usually scared.

30:36

So if they go in a group, then it's not that big a deal and they're happier that way. Yeah, yeah.

30:43

Really quickly, when you first met Kay, were you kind of nervous about,

30:49

well, what kind of person? Oh my gosh, no. Okay, so we call, oh no, no.

30:55

What we do, a volunteer social. social and the volunteer social is where people,

30:59

cause we put it out on social media and anybody who wants to learn anything about it can come.

31:05

It was a Saturday afternoon, four o'clock. We're going to be there for a couple

31:07

of hours. Any questions or anything in August, by the way, in August, it's in August.

31:13

So we chit chat around and we go around the circle and everybody gets to introduce themselves.

31:19

And then the people who have worked the house, we get to talk about what we do at the house.

31:24

So my repertoire of stuff at the house goes from.

31:28

Head of security head of the witches and the fairies and

31:32

head of rooms along with two other people so i

31:35

do a lot there and not to

31:37

mention last year you ran the site which is like the person in charge of setting

31:43

everything up and making sure it operates right right was it was a job it was

31:48

actually fun every part is not getting a phone call back when you need a phone

31:53

call and And you get to take that part out, but, but it, you know what I mean?

31:57

It is what it is, but it's really, it's really fun.

32:01

It's really fun to see how it actually all comes together.

32:04

And so he said that he was a transplant for about two years with Coast Guard.

32:09

And we were like, and he does his own haunt and he does his whole podcast.

32:13

And I kid you not, we all went, oh my.

32:19

And so we were all done talking and I'm like, Keone, here we go. Let's go.

32:24

And he was amazing. And so I loved, I'm so sad that you're leaving.

32:30

I'm like, you know, we flew the electrician out last year.

32:33

Can we find Tony out for the weekend to give us some help here?

32:37

And I'm just, I'm amazed because what I love about it is that you have your,

32:44

you have your volunteers and I'm not banging on a volunteer by any means volunteer.

32:48

I don't care if you give me two hours. Thank you so much for your time.

32:51

It's something else that I don't have to do. But when you have somebody who is creative, and I saw the video today on The

32:57

Real on how you put the crypt together, I was like, dude!

33:02

And it was awesome. It was absolutely awesome. But that level of creativity,

33:09

Ingenuity was awesome because it lacked it. I think we lack it.

33:13

I think that we are doing a lot of the same things.

33:17

And that's why I'm really, really excited to go to the next two conventions.

33:22

Because I want to see what else is out there. I want to see how we can still

33:26

make it kid-friendly and just up the game just a little bit. Yeah. I want to be clear.

33:31

I adore you all. I absolutely love the candlelighters.

33:37

The but the candle lighters are a fairly are a

33:40

an older organization like the the membership are

33:44

tend to be toward retiree age correct

33:47

correct and in a lot of ways i feel like many of the members are a stickler

33:54

stuck in their ways but i agree i totally agree i would say that i think you

34:01

are for lack of a better word the the most progressive of the candlelighters.

34:05

Like you are trying to push them into trying into modern Halloween.

34:10

And that's one of the reasons I'm so excited. You're the president this year.

34:14

You know, it doesn't have to be pirates of Emerson by any, by any means, you know what I mean?

34:19

That that's a larger professional haunt here in the area. For those who don't know, I don't want that.

34:23

And I'm talking they're over the top with they're over the top.

34:28

And I don't want that because I still want, I still want it to be family friendly.

34:33

But I still think with the kids that were working with us and now bringing their

34:39

families, I feel that it's the same thing. Revisit it.

34:44

Just in a different room and just in a different way. So I'm looking for a way to up it a little bit.

34:50

And some of the things that we're bringing into the main room,

34:53

which I'm super excited to talk about whenever you say yes.

34:55

I was going to say, if you like, let's put that comment on hold for just a moment.

35:00

Take a break. Hear from our sponsors. And then we can dive right into what we

35:04

want to talk about for the rest of this podcast, which is Ghost House 2024. Okay.

35:10

Music.

35:26

And thank you to our sponsors for those words. All right. We have been leading

35:31

up to it the entire podcast. Let's dig into...

35:36

2024. Annette, what is your... Well, let's start with what is your theme for the upcoming year?

35:43

And what is your vision for what you want to create? Oh my gosh.

35:52

It's going to be good. Before you say anything, I want to point out,

35:55

before we had even built the ghost house last year, Annette was picking my brain on...

36:03

Before we had even built the house for 23, she was picking my brain for 24.

36:08

So that's how much she has been thinking about this upcoming year.

36:13

Uh-huh. Yes, I was. I didn't want anything left to chance because I didn't know when you were leaving.

36:20

And I fairly distinctly remember you telling me you wanted to do something that

36:26

That has never been done in the history of the ghost in the 55 year history of the ghost house.

36:33

You wanted something completely original has never been done.

36:38

Never been done. Where did you go?

36:41

And I, it all started when I walked into a store and saw a creeper from Halloween standing there.

36:52

And the line that he says, basically it's something to the effect of welcome to your wildest dreams.

37:02

Dreams only happen. They don't only happen at night, but they happen during the day as well.

37:07

Pick your nightmare, something to those lines. And I was like,

37:10

no, no, bottom on the spot.

37:20

That was the whole thing. it was the whole thing. And I'm like,

37:24

oh my goodness, where can we take this?

37:27

And so in my 10 years at the ghost house, every time we've done our finale,

37:34

our night of closing, we close.

37:37

And when all the patrons are gone by about 915, 920, we wait for the treasure

37:44

to come out and give us the numbers. And every year, fortunately, we've been going up.

37:49

And a lot of the older candlelighters, man, I really wish we could hit the 200K mark.

37:58

And so I would really like to get as close as I can to that 200K mark.

38:04

Or what do you mean, blow past it? I would love to blow past it, but I don't know.

38:09

And so I'm okay with anywhere close. I would love to blow past it,

38:14

but I would be okay with anywhere close. And we are not that far.

38:19

And so because of the restrictions of wheelchairs and the fact that you have

38:26

it have to have it, what, 46 or 48 inches across,

38:29

we couldn't really do without making my design team and my building team going bananas.

38:35

I was thinking of doing three. Well, they got to build it.

38:39

Besides you, Keone. The design team has gone bananas. Yes. So I was thinking

38:44

of three, three different hallways in the main room.

38:49

Yeah. So Annette really seized on this choose your nightmare idea and wanted

38:54

to have multiple rooms, like three different doors that would open into the carriage house.

39:02

And then depending on which door you take, it takes you down a different hallway

39:07

with a completely different experience. Yep.

39:11

And oh my God, I love it.

39:15

That's what I wanted. and because it would have made way too many walls and

39:20

then we would have had to store those walls, we decided to cut it down to two.

39:25

And so, yeah, but it's two and I'm super excited that it's two.

39:31

I pitched the idea at our board meeting a couple of weeks back.

39:34

They all, because he made me a great, oh my gosh, do you want to see it? Yes.

39:41

Nobody else can see it, but y'all can see it. Sorry, listeners.

39:44

Actually, if you go to our social media at Facebook.com slash HauntingU,

39:48

just the letter U, or Instagram at Haunting University, you can see pictures

39:52

of the models that I built for the ghost house. Yes.

39:58

So, this is the model. It warms my heart that you still have it.

40:03

Oh, yes. I'm keeping it. Are you kidding?

40:08

So, this is... Let's see how we're going to do this here so I can show you.

40:11

So, this is where you walk in. There's two doors.

40:14

So when you walk in, you'll either go one way or you will go the other way.

40:19

And so I am super, super excited for this. Beyond excited.

40:23

Beyond excited. And tell the listeners what your theme is.

40:27

The house is called House of Fears, Your Nightmares Unleashed.

40:34

Nice. Okay. And the idea here is that fears and phobias are being brought to

40:42

life in the house, forcing the people to go through to face their fears. To face it.

40:50

The way it's going to look. So now in the house, not necessarily the main room,

40:54

but the two trailers, the way we have the trailers built, there is a,

40:59

a screen that comes down.

41:01

It's, it's a, it's like a plaques, plastic seats, you're netting that comes

41:06

down and you can see everything inside. And the bottom part is an actual piece of wood that keeps going inside.

41:14

So the, the top part flips up and you attach it. and the bottom part stays there.

41:20

And so my idea is the fears are going to engulf the person going through it.

41:27

So the fears are going to have the doors open.

41:30

And so it'll be in the hallway on the ground and the wall across from the room.

41:36

So everything, when they go through it, it'll be all around them.

41:41

And so the fear doors were going to be open and the nightmare doors are going to be closed.

41:45

And so there'll be kids that are working for their school hours in each of the

41:50

rooms that have a fear to make it more scary.

41:54

And then when, when they go through, it'll be all, all enveloped and everything.

41:59

So when the kids are in the rooms, they'll be all a part of the fear.

42:04

And so it's different from,

42:07

we got asked yesterday if somebody could do

42:10

a birds theme and i'm like definitely like the

42:14

birds yes yes birds

42:18

and i said that'll have your door open so we'll have everything in the outside

42:22

as well so i'm super excited for that one but you're normal snakes and spiders

42:26

jeff is doing a clown menagerie oh oh my god he's gonna get you good. I hate clowns.

42:37

It's the hallway before room nine. So it's a big, long hallway.

42:42

It is. It's absolutely wonderful.

42:45

And it's got this beautiful little hidden nook for a clown to pop out.

42:51

I know where it is. So you're excited.

42:54

Yeah, it's going to be really good, but a lot of them, uh, we'll have our meeting

42:59

next month or well, you know, in, in April.

43:02

So that'll be really cool. So I'm super excited for that.

43:04

And we'll talk about what I want and how we can get it there.

43:08

And, but I want, I have a great list of students who are phenomenal artists.

43:14

And so I'm going to have them put together some things that belong on the floor,

43:18

whether it be, I think like sphere stuff, like the falling or

43:23

something coming up out of a grate or something along those lines so i want

43:28

to looking for ideas for that but yeah it's gonna be cool i'm excited okay less

43:34

you ready to write let me let me grab things to scribble on my scribbles there's

43:41

my scribble too many scribbles, actually there's no such thing so annette as soon as leslie's ready i want you

43:49

to give us the fears that you have already identified. Okay.

43:54

That'll be in each of the rooms. Okay. Well, these are my ideas until we have the meeting.

43:58

I would love to give my list to the people who are doing their stuff and my

44:04

ideas on how I want to see it done. Sure.

44:06

And I know two, two of them already have what they want, I think, but I'm okay with that.

44:13

So we've got clowns. Yes. We have clowns, fires. Okay.

44:21

Snakes, bats, and rats.

44:25

Buried alive. One of the girls wants to do that. And then the birds.

44:30

Desiree mentioned wanting to do drowning. Yes. Bailey. Seriously? Sorry.

44:37

All good. Sometimes our children come in and interrupt anyway.

44:41

I keep hearing tapping on the door behind me. So I know someone is trying to get in.

44:46

Open chicken. Yeah. So drowning is Desiree's. And then I know zombies is also number 10.

44:56

And then I would love to do something.

44:59

I would love to do a height room or falling or something like that.

45:04

And I am doing a monster's room in the main room.

45:06

So the main room is going to have one side is going to be completely black.

45:11

So one side is fear of the dark and the other side are monsters of,

45:16

and we have tons of like different plastic things from creatures and stuff like that.

45:22

So I'm thinking about it like almost like a wax museum with two kids dressed

45:26

up as the monsters and then pretending to be wax statues. And then that's good.

45:33

And they would move if it got closer to them or just slowly move their head.

45:37

But I was wanting to do that as well. And I love your idea for the darkness where you have one path that is completely blacked out.

45:45

No light. It's sealed up so that nothing gets in. and then they just send people

45:49

in with one little electric tea light. They get one little tea light.

45:52

Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot.

45:55

The walls are going to have different things on them. So if they touch the wall. Like textures.

46:00

All kinds of textures throughout the wall. And then there'll be one section

46:04

where it'll come, you'll turn

46:07

left and then you'll have to turn right and then let go around a wall.

46:11

When you go around the wall, there's going to be the board on the ground.

46:15

I don't know what it's called. Your board. What is that? The vibrating floor. The vibrating floor.

46:21

There you go. So I want to do that.

46:24

And then I also saw a thing where...

46:27

There's a two-way mirror. I was thinking of putting two two-way mirrors in the

46:31

hallway and then have one of the kids behind the two-way mirror with a flashlight

46:35

under their chin and to give them that as they look through the mirror,

46:39

because it's only going to be able to be seen if the flashlight's on.

46:42

And I think you really need to like accentuate the other senses inside this

46:49

space because eyes are going to be so minimal.

46:52

You can really play on touch. You can play on sound. You can play on,

46:56

I wouldn't let's not touch taste let's let's

46:59

avoid taste yeah but I like

47:02

your yeah we don't we don't

47:04

want to do so much with sound and that sort of dark would be

47:07

great I like yeah absolutely and I'll introduce you to a couple vendors at fear

47:13

expo okay who do who do scent cups and things but the opportunity to do like

47:19

sound scuttling bugs or dripping water or Or I'm trying to think of like other ways.

47:27

Footsteps, creaky door. Footsteps behind you. Oh, yes.

47:32

Now I'm going to, I got to try to figure out how to get these people from turning

47:35

on their cell phone. Yeah. Yeah. That is a tricky one.

47:39

And it's, there's so many people that are just chicken.

47:45

And I'm like, I'm going to tell you now, if you turn it on, it's going to ruin

47:48

your experience. So this is why I'm giving you a candle.

47:50

So step inside the door, close your eyes for just a minute.

47:54

Minute let your eyes adjust and then walk through it's basically what i'm going

47:58

to tell them and if you turn on your light it's just like walking down your

48:02

hallway at the house and and i would say like,

48:05

but i would i would tell people when they go in like if you

48:08

turn on a flashlight you will be

48:11

asked to leave and you will not get your money back yeah and

48:14

that really and even if you're not enforcing it something like

48:17

that even if you're not enforcing it it'll be enough of a deterrent to

48:19

enough people that it will be effective perspective

48:23

so we have a nice big the niche you know

48:25

where the as you come in the tech room is

48:28

there on the left yep i want to put a person sitting there in a chair in all

48:32

black nothing else showing no white nothing they all have to dress in black

48:38

no stripes on their shoes no nothing and as they go by i want them to flutter

48:44

their cape so they get a little bit of a wind,

48:47

that's good do you know what a morph suit is,

48:51

yes the black completely static suit I think that would be perfect for we have

48:57

to be careful because of the different sizes of all the kids you have different

49:00

sizes of morph suits well that's true too that's true.

49:05

I had like Kay and I should have sent this to you I had seen something on a

49:10

hunt that was set on Instagram where it was something where all the,

49:14

This spot was literally just low on actors. So they wanted the kind of a creepy sensation.

49:20

So they literally just took like mannequin hands and attached them to the wall

49:26

just for that feeling of like fingers brushing as you go by.

49:30

Oh, we have those too. I want filament hanging from the ceiling.

49:35

I hate that feeling. I hate it.

49:39

And I want filament. But I also want that outside the spider's room as well.

49:43

Oh, absolutely. it's got to be in the spider's room that's a perfect perfect

49:47

way of using touch inside that. That's not easy to do to you i know there are just a couple of things that get me,

50:00

i do like the idea having to have to go through something like like last year we were trying to do,

50:10

like gauze and things like that but the gauze that she

50:12

bought was not really it was falling apart because it wasn't old

50:16

new gauze which worked but

50:19

i want to do something else and i'm you know

50:22

like do they make a you know how the sticky hands

50:25

feel that nasty sticky you're talking about like

50:28

the ones you flick and throw those how they they're gross

50:31

oh yeah yeah gross but i want that

50:34

feel on a vine how do i

50:39

get that to hang down and paint it all black and to get that sticky feeling

50:43

on a vine because then they're gonna go it's almost like wet spaghetti you know

50:47

what i mean yeah there's actually definitely check with your high schoolers

50:52

and your middle schoolers there might be types of slime that are stable enough

50:56

to not slide down all the way and actually.

50:58

Just stick i don't think it even needs to be slime i think like

51:01

a i'm thinking like the silicone intestines that

51:04

cfx creates it's just long little bits

51:08

of silicone like it feels wet

51:11

even when it's dry okay if you could

51:14

get like long thin okay pieces

51:17

of silicone and dangling down that way like that i

51:20

think could work that would be cool i just

51:23

don't want anybody to break them so they have to be done

51:26

but that's one reason why i think silicone work it's surprisingly

51:30

resilient so i do have you know grabs

51:33

and yanks fire department so i can't put a

51:36

plastic over the top because just

51:40

in case the fire sprinklers do come on it has to be able to

51:42

hit but i was black mesh a couple

51:46

of like almost like um the camo material yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean

51:54

i do but i know a guy who sells that too another thing you could use that especially

52:00

being in the bay area you shouldn't have as much issues as drying out as it would in colorado um.

52:06

Yarn oh yeah that's gonna

52:10

be a really really wet yarn wet yarn because that'll

52:13

have kind of a stick to your face yeah if you just

52:16

dangle wet if you just dangle yarn down and then before

52:19

opening take a spray bottle and just go through it just go through yeah that

52:23

would do it yeah and that's that's a that's a really cheap way because you just

52:29

get i wouldn't do the karen red heart but or the red heart because it's a little

52:34

bit on the scratchy side but the karen simply soft,

52:38

that's softer has more of a silky feel and i'm

52:42

going to assume that these are different kinds of yarn i was gonna ask i

52:45

know yes yeah i know what you're talking about though the the

52:49

karen simply soft is probably going to be one of your best bets they might have

52:53

a sport weight now besides just their standard if they do that definitely give

52:58

you some some textural differences But you can also just take sections of the

53:01

Karen Simplice off and just unwind it because it's a three-ply.

53:07

Okay. No, that's awesome. You're hilarious, Les.

53:12

Should have known she'd find a way to get the yarn into it. Yeah. Always.

53:15

So I can definitely introduce you to the owner of Nightmare Netting who could

53:20

hook you up with camo netting at a reasonable price.

53:25

Okay. I will not say cheap because it's never cheap. but they are good priced.

53:31

Okay, so that's the darkness side. The monster side, we're talking tons of...

53:36

So when you walk into this side, there is a path that is laid out,

53:40

but with like four foot high walls.

53:42

So everybody can see over the walls. They can see into this big open space that

53:47

is going to be filled with all of these different monsters.

53:52

And what monsters do you have or are you planning to put in there?

53:56

I want the one that I just bought, lot, but I'm not going to use his voice box.

54:00

He's eight foot. He's tall. He's really big.

54:05

So I want him in the bigger space in the corner, but I'm going to have our sound

54:10

guy put what he says on the loop. Yeah.

54:14

But we do have the mannequins. I can make the mannequins anything.

54:19

So I do want some scary masks and things like that to put on the mannequins.

54:23

Some of the stuff that we have is old. And I want to get some new masks. That's definite plus.

54:30

And I've got a few that are... We were given a bunch of stuff from a nonprofit

54:36

about four or five years ago, I think, from the base, Moffett Field.

54:43

And they did a bunch of stuff and so we have a lot of

54:45

stuff from her as well and and i haven't really looked

54:48

through her boxes yet but i know there's some dracula pieces some different

54:53

masks and things but i i want a lot of just scary masks yeah it could be flasher

55:00

face it could be whatever and we can outdo all that we could do the rest of

55:04

the body sure sure so so i don't know what i

55:07

haven't yet so but it sounds like it's going to be a wide variety of very wide variety yes from,

55:14

gory to not gory to you know to you know

55:17

what you would find at walking through a museum type

55:20

in terms of adding some additional props i will be safe for all of it yes well

55:27

but project backfire tayans monsters oh she's got some great they're they're

55:34

like stuffed animal size because she She basically takes stuffed animals and,

55:37

you know, rejiggers them. But Tehan's got a bunch of stuff. So Project Backfire, and she'll be at Fear Expo.

55:45

She's got a bunch of stuff that I would definitely recommend you go over and take a look at. Okay.

55:51

Yeah, Tehan's got some great stuff. Ask about the Richard.

55:55

Do I want to look that one up right now? Ask Tehan. Specifically,

56:00

ask Tehan about the Richard. There's a specific reason it's called the Richard. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

56:10

But I love, love, love, love that idea.

56:14

Because I don't want it whimsical and we have a lot of whimsical stuff.

56:16

And I'm like, I don't want whimsical at all. I want to be scary.

56:22

Teyans is horrifyingly whimsical.

56:27

I find it whimsical. I'm also twisted. The best prop that she made,

56:31

like my favorite prop that she makes, because I've seen it nowhere else, is a dentist drill.

56:36

And like the sound that it makes is freaking perfect.

56:40

Right on. And that's actually, in terms of providing atmospheric sounds related to other phobias.

56:49

Thunder and lightning would be a great one because there's a lot of people that that's a big thing.

56:54

Dentist is definitely another one. Here's an idea. Take a whole bunch of really unnerving sounds and put them on

57:05

a loop and play it in the cue line so that they are already at a high state

57:11

of anxiety before they ever walk through. The mice scurrying across the floor. Mice scurrying across. Dogs barking.

57:19

Thunder lightning. The dentist drill.

57:22

Cockroaches. All of it. Rats. Oh my gosh. It was like the classic hook scraping, metal scraping sound.

57:30

Footsteps. Yeah. All of those things we're talking about started in the queue line.

57:35

You get them all jazzed up before they even go in there. Oh, yes.

57:40

Yep. I almost talked him into buying another Mortimer.

57:48

I would love to buy one and donate it to the candlelighters,

57:53

but I don't have that kind of money. We have a good budget. I want to say we have $2,500 we have to spend.

57:59

You're going to need that for the room. Yeah, I know. I don't.

58:04

But you know what? That's okay. Any other thoughts on the monster room? or really the carriage house as a whole

58:11

before we kind of dive into some of these other phobias.

58:15

Okay, I'm going to check myself out for a moment and let you guys discuss Clowns. Go.

58:22

Clowns. Clowns are going to be fun. Classic.

58:27

Oh my gosh. And I know Jeff wants the little horn and he's going to chase a few people.

58:33

Oh, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:37

But I also know that we were going to do scary clowns and not a fun whimsical

58:40

clown and i told him i asked him what he was going to do in this room he goes

58:44

i'm not going to tell you i'll tell you the rooms meeting so i know that is

58:47

super excited about doing that super excited but i want to know how would you

58:53

guys do a heights room because i really want a heights room,

58:55

i really like that idea there's a couple ways that i can think of for doing a heights room.

59:02

Something falling one of the ways to do it

59:05

would be as a visual effect

59:08

so there's no change in elevation but you

59:11

have everything basically you just have projections on the

59:14

side that look like you're falling oh just

59:18

kind of something like consistently moving yeah something consistent

59:22

moving down so you get that like you're

59:25

falling sensation but without having to

59:28

adjust elevation which again is going to help your ada because the other way

59:31

i can think about for doing it is you do kind of a bridge up across and then

59:38

down but that's a more building and b can make ada a little bit more complicated

59:43

and i don't know what your ceiling height is we can do the ramp,

59:47

annette did you go to zoo lights at oakland last year no no but you know how the ramp by Okay.

59:56

Go ahead. I'll find this. Hold on. Hold on. You know how the ramp has the door

1:00:00

where the slider door closes?

1:00:04

We have that space up until room one.

1:00:07

And that's a good... Remember where you had the laser light?

1:00:11

We have a good amount of space on that, I think. That would be awesome to do it right there.

1:00:18

Because there's nothing there. Let me pitch this idea to you. So I saw this at...

1:00:25

Glow Fari is what Oakland Zoo calls their zoo lights. Oh, yeah. And it's...

1:00:30

Hang on. I got to turn my false backdrop off because it's just blocking it.

1:00:35

You get to see my guest room now. Oh, well, I'm hoping your son is about to attack the witch's bruise in the corner.

1:00:41

OK, so they had this thing set up,

1:00:44

which is a TV screen at the far end and then mirrored walls all around so that

1:00:54

the mirrored walls are just reflecting what's on the screen.

1:00:57

And if you were to put like a video

1:01:01

of something falling on

1:01:04

that tv screen now the entire thing

1:01:08

around it would be falling people walk up to that and all

1:01:11

they see is falling like oh my god that would

1:01:14

throw me for a loop that asked me about

1:01:17

doing a mirrored room all the way around the mirror and he

1:01:19

and i was we could do that because i have the film for that i

1:01:23

have mirrored film and stuff so that would be really good to

1:01:26

do that and you could do it with just a simple television at

1:01:29

one end do the mirrored and you won't

1:01:32

even ask that right exactly it would be so easy you're gonna say less just adding

1:01:38

in that disorientation of having so much mirrored of falling and just putting

1:01:45

through different clips of falling off a building falling off a cliff Almost

1:01:50

like the ride at Disneyland. You're talking about Soaring? Soaring over California.

1:01:59

That's the way I would do the falling because that gets your height.

1:02:04

That gets your sensation of falling. It is definitely going to disorient people.

1:02:11

I would definitely recommend having handrails or something that they could grab

1:02:16

onto. That's a good point. Just for safety, security, et cetera. Yeah. Because I can definitely see that

1:02:24

being, it's like, I don't know if you guys have seen the video of the two kids on a, on a,

1:02:31

a tv screen floor that shows like water moving and then basically the kids are

1:02:36

running out but they fall over because it looks like floor just moved even though obviously it didn't,

1:02:43

especially for especially for the younger audience but even then i mean exactly

1:02:50

definitely something that can get you pretty pretty uh that sounds good my surprise

1:02:56

second idea if you can see side there.

1:03:01

We call it a vortex tunnel where the tunnel is rotating.

1:03:06

And as you're walking through it, it looks like the door on the far side is

1:03:13

what's moving and just gave me this terrible sense of vertigo as I'm walking

1:03:18

through one of these. Yeah. Given the amount of space you have to build in though, that would be very difficult.

1:03:25

Anyway, but yes, I think that would would be that's an

1:03:28

ideal ideal right there and the

1:03:33

other one that i was worried about because i know the snakes are going to be

1:03:37

somewhat easy and the spiders are going to be easy but i am going to get the

1:03:42

netting that you that you said to get so we're going to pull that all the way

1:03:44

through that hallway uh-huh and but i really another thing you could do with

1:03:49

the mirror room if you didn't want to do falling or if that becomes too much of a tripping hazard

1:03:54

middle of the ocean vast megalophobia terror of large expanses of nothing oh

1:04:06

my gosh that would be good what if we get set up one room as just one giant infinity mirror.

1:04:16

Ooh, that would be cool. That would be cool. We would need a big ass film though.

1:04:20

No, I know that one of the girls is doing a zombie room, but I think she's,

1:04:24

she wants to do her own thing.

1:04:28

And I'm like, okay, I guess you can do your own thing.

1:04:31

So, but I would love to give her some, you know, some pointers,

1:04:35

I guess, without being too rude, without steering it.

1:04:41

You know what I mean? Yeah. I totally, totally know what you mean.

1:04:44

Okay. but again i don't even know what she's doing i just know that she it started off as a witch room,

1:04:51

and i told her there's no witches in this house so can we make it zombies instead,

1:04:56

and she was like i didn't know if i wanted to

1:04:58

do the blood or not i'm like well we need something near the end to

1:05:01

be a little bit more horrifying than a witch and she

1:05:05

was like okay well let's see what we can do and

1:05:08

i'm like okay zombies don't necessarily have to

1:05:11

be bloody to be horrifying fine don't have to

1:05:13

be bloody but she also doesn't like zombies so there was

1:05:16

that we have a bias to begin with yeah okay so i don't know it was just a little

1:05:25

bit weird but i guess it's okay yeah i mean having to navigate the intro organizational

1:05:31

politics is can be can be a challenge well if

1:05:35

she's not big on traditional zombies and if she wants to do something that kind

1:05:42

of has that, which element to it. She might, and this again, I

1:05:48

leave this to you and how you want to see the haunt, but a voodoo zombie.

1:05:54

They're not your traditional. They're still pretty freaky.

1:05:57

You get a little bit of that witchiness without it being about witches.

1:06:05

So I would definitely, if she's struggling with zombie, have her look into voodoo zombies.

1:06:10

Do you get a bit of that witchy stuff? Look into, obviously,

1:06:14

Princess and the Frog, the Disney movie. You got some good voodoo zombie stuff in there. The other really good one I

1:06:20

would say is the TV series Constantine.

1:06:23

They've got a couple of good episodes with voodoo zombies.

1:06:27

Sorry, Kay. I need, I need to watch that. Honestly, you really do.

1:06:31

That was pretty good. Actually. I saw that. Okay. What other rooms you want to talk?

1:06:36

Spiders. How would we do the hallway? So we, we, you and I talked already about beef netting, the beef netting.

1:06:44

So I was, so i can pull it from

1:06:48

the room and a little bit over the top of their heads with

1:06:51

it being open that's not a problem yep but in

1:06:54

on the other side of the wall so we would

1:06:57

just pull it and just staple it to the wall to make sure no one

1:07:00

because we had i don't want the same thing happening that happened with the

1:07:04

skulls i don't want them to pull it along i don't want it to grab at them and

1:07:08

things like that so it has flush on the wall yeah and i mean nice thing about

1:07:12

this is you can keep the parts that are coming up off the wall up high so that it's less of a grab.

1:07:19

Okay. Because I really like the fact that if we were to pull it and make an

1:07:24

actual dome on the top of them and walk through the web, that would be ideally

1:07:31

fun. Oh my gosh, that would be so fun.

1:07:33

And then the fillet would hang down at that point. Yes, exactly.

1:07:37

Exactly. The other thing I would say with that.

1:07:42

Is do a Harry Potter follow the spiders chamber of secrets where you just have

1:07:49

the spiders walking along the walls. Oh, nice. That not only by, and basically just attach a whole bunch of little

1:07:56

plastic spiders to the wall, but yeah, lighten them with a flicker.

1:08:02

Oh, and you light them with offsetting flickers. So that way you get the shadows

1:08:07

moves. It looks like it's moving. Oh, that's freaking genius. Oh, Oh, that's awesome. And you know what I bought for you, right?

1:08:16

Yes, I know. Flickering mini lights? Yes.

1:08:19

Yeah, so just set them at different points. So I think I'm going to attach those

1:08:22

to a board or a piece of cardboard that we lightly spray paint black so it doesn't

1:08:29

fold and then attach everything to that and put the lights behind it and poke

1:08:33

it through a smidge. Yeah, you could totally do something like that.

1:08:36

That way I don't have to put it out on the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:08:40

Now okay yeah so

1:08:43

that should that should give you a good draw in for the hallway okay that would

1:08:49

be awesome so i would love that to be over by high by number five and number

1:08:54

six so we have that long hallway that would be super cool where the at the end

1:08:59

of your crypt yeah yeah yeah okay corner yep,

1:09:03

you saw exactly what i was doing i was mapping it out of my head.

1:09:09

Oh yeah no that would be oh that's going to be awesome that's going to be awesome okay man oh man,

1:09:20

okay oh my gosh i can see it now that's going to be so oh my gosh oh man oh

1:09:27

man okay what other ideas would you have for a bird's room i know she wants

1:09:31

And oh, well, there I am. Hello. Welcome back.

1:09:37

It works. Wonderful. So the way she wants to do the bird, she was thinking one

1:09:43

of the characters dressed, but actually have had birds in his hand.

1:09:49

So he I don't know how she would do that.

1:09:52

But I'm like, let's try to figure out something else that she can do.

1:09:56

It sounds kind of me when I think of the birds, the scene that comes to mind

1:10:01

is that scene where the main characters walk outside and there are birds covering

1:10:07

everything everywhere,

1:10:10

sitting there, staring at them, right?

1:10:15

It's so unnerving so i would

1:10:18

start it with covering the walls

1:10:22

with with branches or or

1:10:25

you know something for birds to sit on and then just cover the

1:10:28

walls in birds all staring

1:10:32

down and like even if you could do branches coming

1:10:35

off of the walls really creating like

1:10:38

exactly creating a dome again kind of like we talked about with the with the

1:10:42

spider but out of tree branches or or something like that and then just cover

1:10:46

them with as many birds as you can make it also needs to be at least a couple

1:10:53

of ducks both for the far side cartoon and for never pick up a duck in a dungeon.

1:11:02

And then like if you could sample the audio out of the birds from that scene

1:11:09

and play that That they're in the hallway.

1:11:12

It would be so creepy. There's an episode. In Pushing Daisies. Where they do.

1:11:19

A homage. To Hitchcock's The Bird.

1:11:23

Let me find out which episode it is. But there's an episode in Pushing Daisies.

1:11:26

That might have some good ideas. As well as getting some good audio. Go find it.

1:11:34

No that would be great. So we do have. A spring loaded door.

1:11:39

That we got from last year's Spirit and the doors the double that opens like

1:11:46

this and it opens and the spider jumps out.

1:11:52

I'm wondering I think they had it on a step pad the last time when they used

1:11:58

it at Spirit Store I don't want it on a step pad because the step pads tend

1:12:03

to not really last for the two and a half weeks sure,

1:12:08

Is there any way that we can look at that and maybe make it a button?

1:12:12

Like to have a person like an actor triggering.

1:12:17

You're triggering. That would be simple to do.

1:12:20

I've got one of those spiders at home. I have it just on the sound sensor and

1:12:26

it is impressively effective.

1:12:30

Okay. Or at least it was until it got run over by a car, but separate situation. It was not made for that.

1:12:36

Okay. No, that's good. Okay.

1:12:40

But yes, you could certainly wire that to just a regular push button in the

1:12:45

same way that you do a step pad. It's just wire the button instead of the step pad. Okay. Brian should be able

1:12:52

to do that relatively simply. Okay. All right. I think that's it because I don't know what other.

1:12:59

I want to talk rats real quick. Okay.

1:13:02

The episode before you talk rats, the episode of Pushing Daisies is bittersweet.

1:13:06

It's episode 8 of season 1 I'm going to share my screen real quick while we're

1:13:11

doing this okay for rats spiders or snakes I think something like this could

1:13:17

be very effective you're familiar with Atmos FX I'm sure,

1:13:21

yes they have one called Creepy Crawlies that I use every year.

1:13:29

This is the rats oh oh

1:13:33

yeah it it's literally just rats

1:13:36

running out of a hole and like i put

1:13:40

i put this on a projector i project it

1:13:43

down onto the floor right in

1:13:46

front of where people are going to be walking and then put it on a a motion

1:13:51

sensor so that as soon as they walk up it gets triggered and then where they're

1:13:55

trying to step all of this pops out like it freaks people out every time but

1:14:01

they've They've got rats in that package.

1:14:03

They've got rats, they've got snakes, and they've got tarantulas.

1:14:05

So wherever it fits best, I think using something like that is very effective.

1:14:11

And just the sound of it. No. Freaking bleh.

1:14:16

Oh, exactly. Love it. Love, love, love it. There it is.

1:14:21

Creepy crawlies too. Oh, man. It's $15. Oh, my goodness.

1:14:25

It's fantastic. Yep, exactly. So I do love...

1:14:31

The idea of having it on the ground, because I brought home the old signage,

1:14:37

and I'm taking off all the plastic vinyl off the old signage,

1:14:41

so it's clear white boards.

1:14:44

Okay. And so I was going to take those and cut them to size to fit in the hallways

1:14:49

or on the hall, so either for projection or for painting purposes.

1:14:54

With it and because outs on the way to Jeff's I want a really long,

1:15:02

Somehow when you are walking across like on the street and you have Steven Spielberg,

1:15:08

the clown or it, the red balloon. Yeah, totally.

1:15:11

So I want the grates on the floor.

1:15:17

Like the storm drain grates. Yes, there's storm drain grates all the way down that hallway.

1:15:23

And I want you to see a picture. There's balloons in the hallway.

1:15:28

Way but i also want you to see his face the

1:15:31

clown face yeah in between the tree oh yes

1:15:34

i don't care i have to cut that thing out or whatever

1:15:37

i'm gonna put that thing together and i'm gonna shellac the crap

1:15:40

out of it so nobody ruins it when they walk over it yeah but i

1:15:43

want that and then the the spotlight hitting it here

1:15:46

and there so they can catch the rinse of it oh yeah.

1:15:49

That's what i want i love that that's

1:15:52

that's fantastic i don't know what he and they're

1:15:55

gonna be screaming even like crazy there's gonna be a lot of people going out the back

1:15:57

door and i think this

1:16:00

is gonna be way oh yes i think okay i

1:16:05

want to talk drowning real quick drowning okay so

1:16:08

not recommended but very very good for effect fact my

1:16:12

like when desiree is

1:16:15

the one who who pitched this idea to me and kind

1:16:17

of what she was talking about was putting

1:16:20

like material or something to make it it look like the

1:16:23

waves kind of hanging from the ceiling trying to make

1:16:26

it so you're you feel like you're underwater i would hit

1:16:29

that with some serious blue light and if you have like the

1:16:32

motion blue green kind of swirly lights like

1:16:36

something like that but then put a drowning victim in the room and what i want

1:16:42

you to google is axe worthy ghost another thing i would consider in terms of

1:16:47

design is it actually kills two birds with one stone go ahead less is put the water in a cave.

1:16:54

Ooh, could be your cave lighted his water. So now you're underground.

1:16:58

You're underwater in a cave. Yeah. Yeah. So you get kind of that buried alive, drowning combination.

1:17:07

You get a little bit of claustrophobia in there. Plus you get the drowning.

1:17:11

But what I would do is put a, a drowning victim in there, use an ax worthy ghost.

1:17:16

It's a very simple single motor prop that just makes it move like this.

1:17:25

Okay. Okay. I think for an underwater scene, it would be exactly the motion you want to.

1:17:31

Okay. To suggest a person underwater. Okay. No, that sounds great.

1:17:35

And it acts worthy goes, you are going to, I'm going to find,

1:17:38

you'll find how to make that, that motion. Yeah.

1:17:42

It's called an ax worthy ghost. It doesn't have to be a ghost.

1:17:45

You can put whatever you want on the end of it. It's all about the motion.

1:17:48

Okay. All right. No, that's perfect. No, I like that. and then um.

1:17:54

To go to buried alive i think is the only one we really haven't talked about we haven't talked,

1:18:01

or the best and i think linda had an idea

1:18:04

for the buried alive i think she was going to put tree roots on the ceiling

1:18:06

of the room okay but i i

1:18:11

don't know if that's going to get you the the feel

1:18:14

of being buried alive i think that's an underground theme

1:18:18

you know i mean yeah underground and yeah i don't know okay can you do like

1:18:25

not quite a squeeze tunnel but like partial i i have pitched squeeze tunnels

1:18:31

in the past i would love a squeeze i would love a squeeze tunnel but they're gonna say no to that,

1:18:38

it's not with a with a like the ada makes it complicated the ada makes it complicated

1:18:44

and like you can get away from the i think you get around the ada by just not

1:18:47

inflating it when When someone ADA comes through, like, or there are ways around this.

1:18:52

Okay. So, but if you start, I don't, okay. I'm pitching ideas and I don't know how the thing works.

1:18:58

Start with it deflated. As they walk through the room, you inflate it up to

1:19:03

the point where you hit that ADA line.

1:19:06

No. Okay. Because the hallway itself already meets ADA and we,

1:19:11

there's no room to make it smaller.

1:19:14

The only place where we would have enough room to do something like that That

1:19:17

would be in the main room, in the carriage house.

1:19:22

How tall are your ceilings? Eight foot. In the carriage house,

1:19:26

we have at least, yeah. In the carriage house, they're huge.

1:19:30

Well, yeah, carriage house is huge. But inside where the rooms are,

1:19:34

where the fears are going to be, it's just eight foot.

1:19:37

It's just eight foot. And actually, if I remember correctly,

1:19:40

I think it's like seven foot, eight inches or something like that.

1:19:42

It's slightly less than eight foot. it because we

1:19:45

have all the wires and stuff between them drop down right

1:19:49

just trying to think of a way to lowering the

1:19:53

ceiling as they go through can also

1:19:56

create that claustrophobic feeling actually that's an interesting idea put a

1:20:01

a sloped ceiling so that as they're walking they're having to duck down further

1:20:06

as they go with the tree roots hanging down yeah well because i know that in room six,

1:20:13

she was thinking room six, because it's a straight, straight edges and the straight back.

1:20:19

So it's just like a, and I told her, I said, well, I kind of want that one for

1:20:24

the height room because that way we could do the, whether it be looking down the buildings or whatever, we can attach everything

1:20:30

to the walls and the floor and have it look like you're looking down between

1:20:34

the two buildings or the four buildings. And once to, I was like, okay, But one year that was a cave and the ice princess was in that cave.

1:20:43

And the girl took a painter's cloth and made, made an actual painting.

1:20:52

I guess two by fours took it and made a whole thing and she put everything on it.

1:20:56

So when you look in, you had this curved back wall.

1:21:00

Yeah. And it wasn't all the way to the back.

1:21:03

It was only like three feet in. It wasn't the entire length of it,

1:21:07

but she had an ice princess there and she took and put mud all over this.

1:21:11

And it was super awesome. And the whole, the whole room looked like she was in an ice case.

1:21:16

Yeah. She painted it and it was really good the way she hit it with the spray paint.

1:21:21

It was nice it was really nice but she had to build the pieces that this heavy

1:21:26

painter's tarp had to lay on for it to be you know to spur it to stay up because

1:21:32

there was nothing else sure it was really good though it was really really good

1:21:36

i think where you're going to struggle with.

1:21:39

This buried alive though is making people feel like

1:21:43

they are experiencing it if it's

1:21:46

just in the room and it doesn't extend out into the hallway

1:21:49

somehow right exactly right and so i

1:21:52

was thinking of that one would be a nightmare because you

1:21:55

know how you're you know i mean and the thing would be

1:21:58

closed but i was i like the idea of bringing the

1:22:00

floor up and putting the grass and

1:22:04

maybe a grave or something along those lines and have somebody underneath it

1:22:09

or have the voices come up from underneath it and have one of those things that

1:22:13

kick the door and just have a have a A coffin sticking partway out of the ground

1:22:18

with the door moving and then just screaming coming from the inside?

1:22:24

Coming from the inside. Because we have another three speakers for that room,

1:22:28

I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But we can do something. I thought we could do something like that.

1:22:33

But she has a whole different thing and she's going to pick your brain. Noted.

1:22:38

She texted me and we haven't gotten together yet. So I'll keep this conversation

1:22:42

in mind when I meet with her. Yeah, that's what that's for. So it's like, eh, work on it a little bit. Yeah, exactly.

1:22:52

But it's okay because I want their take on it as well.

1:22:57

And I don't know if I get to be this pushy.

1:23:02

Sure, sure. I don't know. Yeah.

1:23:06

Saying please and thank you a lot. That always just points in your favor.

1:23:11

It always, I'm trying, but yeah, no, this was great.

1:23:15

I really, really, really appreciate all the help with it. This is very cool.

1:23:18

I can't wait to see how it turns out. Me as well. I think it's going to be the best house in freaking years.

1:23:26

So are you guys going to get to come back and actually stay for a night or something and check it out?

1:23:30

I can promise nothing at this point, but I will make an effort that that's all I can promise.

1:23:36

Promise and i my uh i told

1:23:39

my son he has to come down to you i said your mom is president so she gets

1:23:42

you get to see how demented your mother is so let's go i told

1:23:47

him he's like oh that's gonna be kind of hard i'm like

1:23:50

just a night son just need you for one night yeah yeah maybe sit for the night

1:23:54

i don't need my granddaughter going through it but oh yeah well now that we've

1:23:58

went everybody's taste buds for ghost house 2024 give a quick rundown of where

1:24:02

people can find more information about the upcoming ghost house where they can

1:24:05

go look for information, get tickets.

1:24:07

You'll find a lot of the information that I did talk about on the www.candlelighters.com.

1:24:14

And you should have a schedule up there when we're going to be open and volunteer

1:24:19

meeting and stuff would be great if people come out and help.

1:24:22

The more, the better. There's lots of things that you can do and you don't have

1:24:27

to be able to swing a hammer because we'll teach you.

1:24:30

If you can use the paintbrush i would love

1:24:34

it but there's a lot of stuff to do and it's just

1:24:37

really fun and we feed you so and i

1:24:41

always got fed pretty good yeah yeah it's pretty fun but when is the volunteer

1:24:47

social do you have a date yet a volunteer social i do volunteer social is going

1:24:53

to be in august and it's usually the third saturday in august so it's going

1:24:57

to be the 17th August 17th. So if you're interested in volunteering.

1:25:02

Yeah, it's one of those days. So if we can get the prop trailers out there by the 15th,

1:25:09

get our we are cleaning out the props trailer before we start our work party

1:25:13

our first work party is not until the 7th of september and if we can get that

1:25:17

cleaned out we will have the, so hopefully that will happen on the 17th if not it will have to happen on the

1:25:23

24th that'll be in the morning but the social will be that afternoon in about

1:25:27

four so any hunters who are listening to the podcast if you're in the bay area

1:25:31

definitely go check out the candlelighters website.

1:25:34

And if you have the time or the bandwidth to assist, come out to the social

1:25:39

on either August 17th or August 24th, depending on what day it ends up being.

1:25:43

Check out their website, check out their Facebook page for more information.

1:25:47

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate all of it. It was a pleasure.

1:25:52

I've got to tell you, getting to work with the Ghost House and getting to see

1:25:55

how you run your events for the last two years has been a masterclass in a haunted house execution.

1:26:01

We spent an entire podcast episode just talking about what I learned from you.

1:26:06

So I hope I have given to you as much as I have gotten out of working with you. Oh, yes. Definitely.

1:26:13

Definitely. Definitely. I really appreciate everything that you've done for us.

1:26:16

And I'm pushing for us to pay for you to come out. So believe me.

1:26:22

Well, you're paying. You know, we've been on here for two days. That's all I need for two days.

1:26:30

Oh, man. So it's very hard to find people who are willing to put in the time

1:26:36

and effort to make something that is just for kids a little bit better.

1:26:42

Yeah, I totally get it. If you're a non-profit, come on out.

1:26:46

We would love to have you help. And we would love to support you in any way that we can.

1:26:50

So it's been a pleasure.

1:26:52

It's been an absolute pleasure. So Annette, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

1:26:56

Getting to share a little bit about the Ghost House and everything that the

1:26:59

Candlelighters are doing for the community here in Fremont. It has been an absolute pleasure.

1:27:04

Thank you very much for having me. And if you guys need more help,

1:27:07

if you need to change out rooms and trying to figure out how to make them work,

1:27:11

let us know because this is the part that I love.

1:27:15

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Do you understand why I've had so much

1:27:20

fun working with them now? Yep. She's got a good vision and thought process for where she wants to move the

1:27:28

organization in terms of this event.

1:27:33

Absolutely. And I'm so very excited about what she's going to put together.

1:27:37

I think it's going to be absolutely spectacular. Yeah. Well, we have run extra long on this episode.

1:27:43

So I don't know that there is much more that we should say, other than definitely

1:27:48

go check out the Haunting You podcast everywhere where you can find your podcast

1:27:51

or at hauntingyou.com with just the letter U.

1:27:54

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1:27:58

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1:28:03

So you can keep up with all of the things that we are doing to prepare for the 2024 season.

1:28:08

Any final thoughts, Les? The Candlelighters is going to have such a great haunted

1:28:11

house this year. Yeah, it's going to have such a great haunted house this year

1:28:13

and I just hope I can come back and see it. Yeah. All right, wrap us up. That is yet another episode of Haunting You Podcast.

1:28:19

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1:28:23

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1:28:26

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1:28:30

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1:28:36

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1:28:40

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1:28:44

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1:28:48

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