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This is COVID 19 Seattle
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I'm Dave Ross and I'm Aaron Granillo.
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While the next phase of the state's vaccine
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rollout is starting sooner than we thought,
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an accelerated timeline from moving
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to even our next
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grouping, the Phase one B,
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which we expect to do in
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the next coming days.
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That's state health Secretary Dr Umer
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Shaw. He did not give a specific date
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for moving into phase one B. It includes
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people 70 years and older and
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people 50 years and older in multigenerational
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households. The Health Department announced this new
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timeline a day after the C. D. C
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recommended vaccine access to people
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65 years and older
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and also those with underlying conditions.
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Dr. Shaw says the policy change
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caught him off guard. He
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even criticized this new guidance,
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By making pronouncements were simply
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having people get into even longer
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lines, which only adds
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to the frustration and consternation of everyone
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and doesn't help us get vaccines
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administered. So while all of us
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want more vaccines into
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communities and the arms of people,
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we have to have consistent
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and enhance supply those vaccines
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from our federal partners.
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As for the supply, the state has received
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about 625,000
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doses. More than 200,000
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have been used so far, which means only about
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a third of the supply has been administered.
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So I know this is a massive
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public health undertaking day. But it seems
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for now the state is in some ways
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bungling the rollout. It'd have months
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to prepare for this. Yet the
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health department says about 70%
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of the vaccine is still on the shelves.
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Doesn't the health department deserve some blame for
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that? Well, I don't know about blame I'm
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usually not interested in dishing out blame. But I've
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come to the conclusion that you need to just
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offer the vaccine to people who want
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it and see what happens. I think we're
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getting a sense now of what the demand is,
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and and to me, the main logistics
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of it are with the Pfizer vaccine. You
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can't saw it too soon. So
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you have to have at least some sense of who is
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going to show up. And I'm I'm hearing
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today that around the country states
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are taking reservations, they're sending up setting
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up mass vaccination sites and
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doing a pretty, uh, risk business.
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So once you know, exactly what
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your supply will be. It seems to be the best thing to
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do is just get it out the door as quickly as possible. Yeah,
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Those vaccine sites are also being
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set up here in, uh, in King County in Seattle.
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We know are sitting up a few of those, even the I
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heard the Seattle Fire Department is even rolling out. A couple
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of mobilization teams today hopes
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to vaccinate about 1000 people adult
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care living facilities by
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the end of this month. So that's all good news. And
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by the way, Dr Omer Shaw at the health Department,
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he did acknowledge the
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state is a little bit slow in
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the rollout.
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Look, we're going as fast as we can,
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but we need to do better, and we are
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doing better, and we're going to do even
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better. However, we also
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want to do it well , we do not
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do it well, we're going to have a system
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that is not going to respond well,
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and then all of us are gonna be having discussions
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in a few weeks about, why did we
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open up too quickly? Or why did we do
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some of these things that really made a more chaotic
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system in place, and
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we do not want to see that either. So it's trying
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to achieve a balance, and that's
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what we're working to. Strike is the balance.
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Balance and patience
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is what I'm also hearing from from the doctor
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at the Health Department. By the way, one more note
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here, the federal government did announce
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that it would no longer reserve booster
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doses of the vaccine. Instead, it
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says it will pump all of its
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available supply out
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to states, so we'll
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have a lot more supply coming. It sounds
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like here in the coming days. Also
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in vaccine news, the states teachers
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Union wants to move educators
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up the line to receive the vaccine.
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Washington Education Association
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President Larry Delaney says
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all teachers working in person with
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students should be prioritized
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regardless of age. We're not advocating
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for mandatory vaccination of
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all public school employees by
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any means, but simply that they have
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access to the vaccine if necessary.
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And the state's current plan is to vaccinate
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teachers sometime next month. But only
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, if they're at least 50 years old,
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all others would not qualify
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until April. So now we have the
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Education Association, joining with his
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bipartisan group of lawmakers. And they're
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both urging the governor and the Health
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Department to revise the recent guidance
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so that all school employees
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who want to get a vaccine can get one
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in February, no matter how young or
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how old they are. Well, that's essential
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to opening up schools, opening up schools, essentially
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reopening businesses because people need
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their Children to be somewhere and
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again, it gets back to this idea of getting as much
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vaccine out as quickly as possible. I'm a little surprised
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that it's not in every single
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drug store and and doctors office
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at this point, so
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that's that's what I'm looking for is for,
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actually, I had last time went in for an
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exam. I said, When I get the vaccine said, Well,
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we'll call you when it's in and
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I think that's what they need to do Call us when it's in
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and most of us will be down there. I
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heard an analysis from The Seattle
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Times that something like 60%
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of the states K through 12 staff
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is under 50.
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So only 40% of
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teachers around the state and staff around
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the state would be vaccinated next
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month. The rest wouldn't be vaccinated until
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April. And if the Education association
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is overall
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in agreement that it wants to be vaccinating
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all teachers, we need to get
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that done. We cannot wait until April
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to get all kids back to school, right?
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But it sounds like as each group
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lobbies to be first in line, are
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we gonna have ever changing regulations?
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It's getting confusing. I think the idea
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is, if you're a living, breathing
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person, who
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is what is it over 18? Because that's what it's
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been tested for. Then you show
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up and you get your, we do this with the flu
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every year. I
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don't know why it's it should be different. We urge
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as many people as possible to get the flu
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shot, and most do
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some don't and the
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demand doesn't seem to be overwhelming. So I'm
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not sure why we can't just do
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that here.
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As we talked about the vaccine, there is
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also concerned that cases
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are growing here. In our state,
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the coronavirus is spreading more rapidly
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and the new trouble spot is
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Whatcom county. The rates that we're seeing
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are unlike anything we've ever
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experienced in the past. And unlike
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the surge we saw following the Thanksgiving
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holiday and unlike anything
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we're seeing anywhere else in the state, that's
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county health director Erika Lautenbach. She
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says. 80% of the cases
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they can trace come from social
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gatherings is family and friends
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that are spreading it to each other, not strangers
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in workplaces, not at the grocery store,
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not retail stores or
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other places. It is in people's homes
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with people they know and love. Lautenbach expects
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this month's COVID cases to be triple
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that of December, which had been the
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county's worst month ever. December
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saw nearly 1100 cases, and Whatcom
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County is already nearing 1000 cases
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in the first half of January. My fear
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is that it will get worse before it gets
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better, and to put this into perspective,
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Lautenbach says that if you
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have 50 people or more at
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you're gathering, you have about a 50%
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chance of contracting the
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virus. I don't like those odds. No,
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that is that is terrifying, uh,
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in our episode. By the way before Thanksgiving,
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you might remember we talked with Dr Steven
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Anderson from Multicare Auburn
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medical center, and he warned
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us about stranger bias.
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That's the idea that I won't,
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I won't get this from my family. I won't
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get it from my inner circle. I'm going
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to get it from a stranger. That's
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just not true.
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And it sounds like Whatcom County
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is proving that that is not true
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again. 80% of all the cases
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they're tracing are just from small
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gatherings inside home. So
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I mean social gatherings and, like parties,
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inviting your friends over things of that nature
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so well, that's when you spend the most time indoors
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with people. Right is in those gatherings with with
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friends, they could go on for hours. Which tells me
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that we may have to rethink this idea
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that gyms and restaurants are
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what the problem is, right. I I
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wholeheartedly agree with you, Dave. Um,
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it's so difficult that that whole conversation
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about gyms and restaurants
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having to reopen because
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again like the cases,
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are still spreading like we're
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seeing in Whatcom County. And yet restaurants
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aren't open there, right? So I mean,
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you're hearing from restaurant owners saying
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give us a chance at least
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to try to reopen.
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We will enforce the mask mandates
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we will follow, by the way, the C D. C.
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Guidelines which do have advice
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to safely open restaurants.
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And I think we've gotten to the point where people are used
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to this. We're not gonna have the same kind of pushback
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about masks that we had initially.
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And I mean based on what
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I'm I'm hearing in this report. Your
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you if you're gonna have a gathering, you'd be safer
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at a restaurant that's enforcing rules. Then you would
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have a family gathering with their no rules. I
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totally agree with you. Um,
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okay, so let's just before we wrap
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up this episode, I do want to get your thoughts on
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what you're doing these days
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to keep your spirits up, you
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know, socialize appropriately
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at a distance because both of us, we
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canceled our holiday plans, so
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we didn't really do. We haven't been doing much these
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last couple months. Well, basically, daily
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zoom calls with the grandchild
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across the country. We're not daily, but several times
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a week. Anyway, uh, she is very good. Now.
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She my daughter just gives
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her the phone and she gives me a
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guided tour of the apartment and her toys,
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and it's absolutely adorable.
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Uh, the other grandchild is part
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of our pod, so we can visit them
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in person and, um, that's
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gone pretty well. And the other thing I'm doing, I'm I'm
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going back to computer programming
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and re teaching myself
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Python. I'm trying to program ah,
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card game, Um, that
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I can always win there.
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Can other people always win? Or
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is it just tailored? No, it's just me. I'm
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collecting all the data so that if I ever get
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go professional at playing solitaire,
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I will win every time. Good luck Dave. Tune
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in next Thursday as we discuss more of
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the latest coronavirus news. You can subscribe
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