0:00

Can you see the difference you're making in the world?

0:03

Clean Choice Energy makes it easy for you to

0:05

see the impact you have by switching to clean

0:08

electricity. With our advanced clean

0:10

energy impact statements, you see more

0:12

than just your monthly usage. You see the

0:14

true environmental benefits your choice has.

0:17

One year of clean electricity is on average

0:19

the same as avoiding about 5,000 pounds

0:22

of coal being burned.

0:24

Visit cleanchoice.com slash podcast

0:26

to see the difference.

0:30

When you love someone, seeing them struggle

0:32

with their mental health can be one of the hardest

0:34

things in the world, especially when you

0:36

know they need help but don't know where to turn.

0:39

That's why 988 Lifeline is here. 988's trained

0:42

crisis counselors are available 24-7

0:45

by phone or text to provide you with

0:47

the resources and support you need to help

0:49

the people you love. No one should have

0:51

to struggle alone. Call or text 988

0:54

Suicide and Crisis Lifeline day

0:56

or night. 988. Hope

0:59

has a new number.

1:00

At Kroger, we know the

1:02

minute a tomato is picked, the fresh timer

1:04

starts. The sooner we get our produce to

1:06

you, the fresher it is. That's why we've

1:09

shortened the time from harvest to home

1:11

for our tasty tomatoes, strawberries,

1:14

and salads. So no matter how you shop,

1:16

you have more time with your fresh produce.

1:18

Kroger. Fresh for Everyone.

1:20

Save big on your favorites with the buy five

1:22

or more save a dollar each sale. Simply buy

1:25

five or more participating items and save a dollar

1:27

each with your card. Kroger. Fresh

1:29

for Everyone.

1:35

May calm, mist

1:38

for head part.

1:45

I'm watching you. I

2:01

am right behind you.

2:12

Hey guys welcome to episode 63

2:15

of macabre misfortunes I'm Jerry and

2:17

I'm Tricia. Tracy

2:20

obviously we are very

2:23

proud of our home state of Kentucky

2:25

and we're happy when someone in our

2:27

state is the first to accomplish

2:29

something. Of course. Well

2:32

not in this particular case. More

2:42

on that accomplishment a little later in

2:44

the show. Tracy we're going to go

2:46

back to 1980s Pikeville Kentucky. Good

2:51

years man love the 80s. Susan

2:55

Smith was in her mid 20s and

2:57

like I said she was living in Pikeville Kentucky. She

3:00

didn't exactly have the best life. At

3:03

the time she was a divorced

3:05

mother with two children

3:07

and she was still living with her ex-husband

3:10

and both of them had major

3:12

drug problems. The bigger problem

3:15

was the fact that not only did Susan

3:17

have a drug problem and so did her ex but he was also

3:19

the

3:20

biggest dealer in the area. Which

3:22

is kind of why she stuck around even

3:24

though they were no longer a couple.

3:28

As you can imagine their

3:31

addiction caused a huge strain on

3:33

their relationship. Well

3:36

in 1987 there's an FBI

3:39

agent by the name of Mark Putnam.

3:42

He had began an investigation in the area

3:45

where Susan is living. The

3:49

focus of this investigation was

3:52

a bank robber by the name of

3:55

Carl Edward Lockhart.

3:57

Okay. Mm hmm.

3:59

A local deputy introduced Susan

4:02

Smith to Mark Putnam because he felt

4:04

like she could help with the investigation

4:07

because apparently she had some type

4:09

of a relationship

4:10

with this bank robber. Okay. Susan

4:15

was an old friend of the deputy

4:17

and like I said, he believes she would be a great

4:19

informant to having some knowledge of

4:21

this guy for Putnam.

4:23

Well, this collaboration actually worked pretty

4:26

well for, for Susan because

4:28

she regularly shared information about

4:31

Lockhart's criminal plans.

4:33

Well, she was, she was having her cake and eat

4:35

it too. So she's using him for

4:37

drugs, but then. Oh,

4:41

I'm sorry. Yeah. Her boyfriend, the

4:43

ex-boyfriend was not the bank robber.

4:46

No, no, no, I know. Okay. I gotcha.

4:48

I gotcha. Okay. I know what you're saying now.

4:51

Well, she was still having her cake and eat it too. Yeah. Yeah.

4:53

But you just chomped in at the time after

4:56

we were off that subject.

4:57

Oh, sorry. Like

5:00

I said, this worked out well for her.

5:03

It actually worked out super well

5:06

for Putnam

5:07

because it was her information that

5:11

eventually would

5:13

lead to the arrest of Lockhart, which took place

5:15

in December of 1987. The

5:19

following year Lockhart was sentenced

5:21

to 57 years in prison for her help. Susan

5:28

was paid 5,000 bucks. Hmm.

5:33

It seems like a low amount. I

5:35

mean, I didn't know most time I didn't know informants

5:38

got anything. I thought usually most informants

5:40

used it to stay out of prison.

5:42

Yeah, they, I guess so. Now,

5:45

according to Putnam, after the

5:47

arrest, he solved less and less of Susan

5:49

didn't really have a need to, but

5:52

Susan insisted on meeting more regularly.

5:56

In 1988, they began an affair. Keep

6:01

in mind that Mark Putnam was a married

6:03

man. Oh, that

6:06

girl. Putnam

6:08

worried about the progression of

6:11

said relationship, and he requested

6:13

to be transferred to the state of Florida

6:17

to the FBI, which they granted.

6:20

Oh, nice. After

6:22

his transfer, though, he actually had to return back

6:24

to Kentucky for a few weeks to complete

6:27

one of the investigations that he was doing.

6:30

That's when things got sticky. I

6:33

think Susan Smith may

6:36

have wanted way more out of this relationship than

6:38

what Putnam wanted. And

6:40

when he came back on this little trip

6:42

to kind of type some loose ends,

6:46

she informed him that she was pregnant with his

6:48

baby. Not

6:51

only that, when he, you know, he told

6:53

her that he wasn't interested. So

6:56

he went to Florida, but she still stayed back here. Yes,

6:58

because she still had her life here. He's

7:01

married, so he wouldn't be taking her with him. Oh, that's

7:03

true. Well, yeah, that's true. So

7:06

anyway, she says she's pregnant, and he

7:09

said so. Yeah, I

7:11

mean, but now, though, this relationship was

7:13

a threat to him and his. Right. So

7:16

he talked to her about possibly putting

7:18

the baby up for an adoption.

7:20

She refused and supposedly

7:23

she basically told him, no,

7:26

your ass is mine.

7:29

And you're going to do what I

7:31

want you to do because I've got

7:33

this baby now, and I'll ruin your career and I'll ruin

7:35

your, your. Yeah, but does she know

7:37

that he, that she was for real pregnant

7:40

or was she just saying that? I don't know. I'm

7:42

assuming because I've been saying proven.

7:45

Right. I'm assuming that

7:48

she was, she was being honest about the situation.

7:52

And I'll tell you what happens next right after a quick sponsor

7:54

break. Hey guys,

7:56

quick question. Do

7:58

you like conversations about. ghosts, UFOs,

8:01

cryptids, and many mysteries

8:03

of our strange world? Well, I

8:05

know you do because you're listening to Hillbilly

8:07

Horror Stories and those are the same type

8:10

of topics that we cover on Hillbilly

8:12

Horror Stories. Now since we

8:14

know that you love those kind of topics, you

8:16

should be listening to the Paranormal Podcast

8:19

with Jim Harrold. Jim Harrold

8:21

is literally the pod father when

8:23

it comes to paranormal podcasting.

8:26

I don't know a single podcaster in the paranormal

8:29

genre that doesn't

8:29

look up to Jim Harrold.

8:33

As best that Jim can tell, the Paranormal

8:35

Podcast, which launched in 2005, is

8:38

the longest running podcast of his

8:40

type on the internet. That says

8:42

something folks. Jim's interviewed big

8:44

names in the paranormal. People like Jack

8:47

Osborn on Ghosts, Dr. Raymond Moody

8:49

on Near-Death Experiences, and Jacques

8:52

Vallee on UFOs. The

8:54

show focuses on every aspect of unexplained

8:57

phenomenon each week an expert joins Jim

8:59

for a serious discussion of mysterious

9:01

matters. The show really

9:03

harkens back to the best of paranormal media

9:06

over the years. Shows like In Search

9:08

Of and Unsolved Mysteries. It's kind of like

9:10

a box of chocolates. You never know

9:13

the topic you'll get but it's

9:15

sure to be fascinating. Do me a

9:17

personal favor. Tune

9:19

in to the Paranormal Podcast on Apple

9:21

Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever

9:24

you listen to He'll Believe Horror Stories.

9:26

You'll be glad you did. All

9:32

right Tracy on June

9:34

8th 1989, Susan and Mark

9:38

were in his car

9:40

and they had

9:42

a two-minute violent

9:45

confrontation we'll call it.

9:48

During this altercation,

9:50

Putman strangled Smith

9:52

to death. Oh no. He

9:54

then hit her body in the trunk

9:57

where it remained until the following day.

10:00

That's when he dumped her body in an

10:03

isolated area near

10:06

a wooded roadside, naked

10:08

and barely hidden. Just

10:11

dumped it. Oh my gosh. He

10:13

then went back to Florida. Susan

10:18

was reported missing by her sister two

10:20

days later. Police couldn't find

10:22

the body though. A

10:24

year later,

10:26

Putman, for whatever reason, became a suspect

10:28

in her disappearance

10:30

and he eventually confessed and

10:32

explained where to find the body. In

10:34

fact, he took

10:37

FBI agents there.

10:41

I do not understand how they can find the body

10:43

if you said he didn't even bury it very well.

10:45

Because it was in a, I guess in a remote

10:47

part that, you know, wouldn't have

10:49

been a lot of traffic. That's

10:51

sad. In 1990,

10:54

he was sentenced to 16 years in prison. That

11:00

seems like an awful short time. How do you

11:02

kill somebody? Dump their body. Well,

11:06

did he get charged for the baby's death

11:08

too? Apparently not. Apparently

11:11

not. And that might not even have been a thing back

11:13

in 1990 where you could have done that. I know

11:16

that's something now where you can charge, but

11:18

I think that's a state by state basis.

11:19

Well, that could be true, but I

11:22

say, uh, wonder. Well,

11:26

I don't know if he would have told them that she would, well,

11:28

he probably did though. We know she was pregnant because

11:30

I mean, I mean, we at least know that's the story.

11:33

Right, but they didn't do like to find

11:36

out whether or not she. I have no idea. I mean,

11:38

it's been a year down the road. I'm just saying. I

11:40

don't even know what kind of shape it was in for

11:42

them to be able to know. Right. But

11:43

I was just gonna say that if he found

11:46

out after the fact that they figured

11:48

out that she was not pregnant, he did all that crap for

11:51

nothing. She still,

11:53

I mean, yes, there's never a reason

11:55

to kill somebody. Well, never. I'm just saying though,

11:57

even if she wasn't pregnant, she still could have caused

11:59

him. This is much trouble, I'm sure. Well,

12:01

yeah, she could have told ya. You

12:04

know, you can't be banging in an informant. I'm

12:06

pretty sure there's rules against that. Now,

12:11

in 1990, he was sentenced to, like I said, 16 years

12:14

in prison. And I said

12:16

we were gonna have a first.

12:18

He became the first FBI

12:20

agent ever to be charged in a homicide.

12:23

Oh, ever? Ever.

12:26

In this world? Ever. Well, there's

12:28

only FBI here. Oh.

12:32

Wow. That's,

12:35

wow, that's really something. Yeah,

12:37

you would have thought that would have at least happened

12:40

before, you know, then before 1990.

12:42

I mean, I would hope that it really wouldn't happen, because

12:44

I don't want nobody to be killed.

12:47

But that is so interesting.

12:49

Putman was released in 2000

12:52

with a six-year reduction of

12:55

his sentence for good conduct. Are you

12:57

kidding me? So he killed somebody, he killed somebody

12:59

and he got 10 years, basically.

13:04

Putnam's wife had actually died two years

13:06

prior to his release, I think cancer.

13:08

Aw. There's

13:10

a movie on Netflix, for those of you who

13:13

don't, looking for something to watch. It's about this

13:15

case. It actually just came out this year.

13:17

So in the last couple of months, but it's

13:19

called Above Suspicion. So if you see that

13:22

movie on Netflix, that's actually about this case. Oh,

13:24

wow. So Putnam's 63

13:27

years old and he lives in Georgia now. Dude,

13:31

I don't even know how you can live with

13:33

yourself. I couldn't. I couldn't either.

13:35

I mean, what a douche. To

13:38

put it mildly. So

13:41

now he's like. Well, I mean, and

13:44

we talk about the baby that she may or may not

13:47

have been pregnant with, but she had two kids at home, other

13:51

than that one. So, you

13:53

know, and

13:55

she's got a drug addict for her dad.

13:56

So these kids were basically

13:59

left with so many no time.

13:59

Well, hopefully they, I mean, hopefully that

14:02

somebody came in and took away those kids. I

14:04

would hope. But yeah, there's

14:06

so many different things tied to that. Yeah,

14:08

that's a horrible story. Man,

14:12

oh man. Anyways,

14:14

that wraps it up for this week. So thank you guys for listening.

14:16

We appreciate it. We love you guys.

14:19

When you love someone, seeing them struggle

14:21

with their mental health can be one of the hardest

14:23

things in the world, especially when you know

14:25

they need help, but don't know where to turn. That's

14:28

why 988 Lifeline is here. 988's

14:31

trained crisis counselors are available 24 seven

14:34

by phone or text to provide you with

14:36

the resources and support you need to help

14:38

the people you love. No one should have

14:40

to struggle alone. Call or text 988

14:43

Suicide and Crisis Lifeline day

14:45

or night. Hope

14:48

has a new number.

14:49

Are you struggling to lose

14:51

weight and keep it off? Tired of wasting time

14:53

and money on starvation diets that lead to more

14:55

frustration and stress? If

14:57

there was a weight loss solution that could actually work for you,

15:00

would you try it? Then head to golo.com.

15:02

I'm Steve. I lost 138 pounds

15:04

in nine months on Golo. I'm

15:06

Amber. I've lost 128 pounds

15:08

with Golo taking release. If you're

15:10

ready to take back control of your life, head to

15:13

golo.com now and see how Golo

15:15

can work for you. That's G-O-L-O.com.

15:18

My sleep is way better. My

15:20

inflammation has gone way down.

15:22

Golo saved my life. I was way overweight.

15:25

That's what sent me down the path. I

15:27

wanted to make sure and live for my

15:28

kid. I have literally tried everything.

15:31

I was on the verge of getting gastric bypass

15:33

surgery and I saw the Golo commercial and

15:36

it was the last thing I tried because

15:37

it worked. Join over 2 million

15:39

people who have found a better way to lose weight with

15:41

Golo. Your healthier and happier life

15:43

begins at golo.com. That's G-O-L-O.com.

15:47

Again, G-O-L-O.com. This

15:50

is the sound of your engine getting clean

15:53

because BP and Amoco Gasolines with Invisalign

15:55

are the best in the world.

15:59

With Invigorate, clean deep in your engine as you

16:02

drive, helping your car run better to take

16:04

you farther. Fuel a cleaner engine

16:06

with BP and Amaco Gasolines with Invigorate

16:09

at a station near you. Optimizes your

16:11

engine's performance from the harmful effects of deposits caused

16:13

by minimum detergent fuels. Requires continuous use.

16:16

Results depend on what you drive and how you drive. Comparison made

16:18

for fuels with the same ethanol content. Lucky

16:20

Land Casino, asking people what's the weirdest

16:22

place you've gotten lucky?

16:24

Lucky? In line at the deli, I guess.

16:26

Ah, in my dentist's office. More than

16:28

once, actually. Do I have to say?

16:30

Yes, you do. In the car before

16:32

my kid's PTA meeting. Really? Yes.

16:35

Excuse me, what's the weirdest place you've gotten lucky?

16:38

I never win Intel.

16:39

Well, there you have it. You could get lucky anywhere

16:41

playing at luckylandslots.com. Play

16:43

for free right now. Are you feeling lucky?

16:46

No purchase necessary. Fully reproduced by law. 18 plus terms

16:48

and conditions apply. See website for details.

17:00

House cleaning. Or...

17:05

Chumba Casino always brings the fun.

17:07

Play over 100 different games online for

17:09

free from anywhere. You could redeem some serious

17:12

prizes. ChumbaCasino.com.

17:15

Live the Chumba life. No purchase necessary.

17:17

Fully reproduced by law. 18 plus terms and conditions apply. See website for

17:19

details.

17:21

I want to live in a world where I can breathe

17:23

clean air. I want to live in a world where

17:25

the sun and wind power our homes. Where

17:28

energy is clean and abundant. Will

17:30

you help me build my future? With

17:33

Clean Choice Energy, you can take part in building

17:35

a better world for all of us. Visit

17:38

cleanchoice.com slash podcast.

17:40

To hear more stories about how we're shaping our

17:42

futures together. That's

17:45

cleanchoice.com slash podcast.

17:50

Luckyland Casino, asking people what's

17:52

the weirdest place you've gotten lucky? Lucky?

17:55

In line at the deli, I guess. In

17:57

my dentist's office. More than once, actually.

18:00

Do I have to say? Yes, you do.

18:02

In the car before my kids' PTA

18:04

meeting. Really? Yes! Excuse

18:07

me, what's the weirdest place you've gotten lucky? I never

18:09

win Intel.

18:10

Well there you have it. You can get lucky anywhere

18:12

playing at LuckyLandsLots.com. Play

18:14

for free right now. Are you feeling lucky?

18:17

No bridges necessary. Fully reproduced by law. 18 plus

18:19

terms and conditions apply. See website for details. Are you

18:21

a manufacturing company looking to upgrade

18:23

your machining center? Look no further than

18:25

Grob's Mill and Turn 5-axis machines

18:28

that are in a league of their own. With a unique

18:30

retractable spindle, it virtually eliminates

18:32

the chance for collisions while requiring

18:34

less floor space. Our versatile machines

18:36

offer more standard options with a wide

18:39

range of automation.

18:40

All at an affordable cost. Choose Grob's

18:42

Mill and Turn 5-axis machines. Go

18:44

to grobgroup.com to get more information.

18:47

Go to grobgroup.com

18:49

to get more

18:50

information.