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Welcome back to episode two of our
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18-part series that we're doing on the
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rise and fall of Napoleon. Yay!
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Yeah, it's not gonna be that bad. Hey,
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guys, guys, it might be
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a little bit longer than I anticipated. I know, I know
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I've never once said that before, but it's so
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funny because the researcher for this episode was like, yeah,
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I can do it in two parts. And then he
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messages this week and he's like, okay, so how bad
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would it be if it's three parts? And I'm like,
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that's on par with the course. Is
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that not the problem that I run into
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literally every time? Yeah, no, because
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he's like researching this from like a stack of
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textbooks, like a stack of books. And he's like,
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oh yeah, I've read all of these every single
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one. And I'm like, okay, how are you
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gonna make that three episodes, my guy? Listen,
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we always try to bite off a little
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bit more. than we could chew and we
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end up choking on it on the way
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down. And that is always what ends up
2:05
happening. The Crusades was only supposed to be like
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a three part series that ended up being
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nine episodes. There's just so much. OK, guys,
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gang's back together again. Yeah, it actually ends
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up doing a long term thing. Anyway, moving
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on into the story of Napoleon.
3:07
OK, so last week we followed
3:09
Napoleon through his early years in
3:11
his first Italian campaign and
3:13
we had left him in Italy having just
3:15
signed a peace agreement with Austria, something that
3:17
was known as the Treaty of Campo Formio.
3:20
All right. This is this is the setting. This is where we're jumping
3:23
into this. In September of 1797,
3:25
Napoleon goes and sends one of his more
3:27
capable generals back to Paris to assist his
3:29
Republican allies in purging the government of royalists,
3:31
because there are a series of movements that
3:34
are happening here at this time. The
3:36
event that would take place this time would
3:38
become known as the coup of Fruchtador. Remember
3:41
when we talked about that in the whole
3:45
French Revolution series, how they renamed the
3:47
months and all those certain things? Yep.
3:49
Yes. So Fruchtador was this. The
3:52
Republican position was strengthened as a result
3:55
of this, but there was
3:57
something else. This required
3:59
the military might. of a general. And
4:02
so the issue became is that leading men
4:04
within the government, like Paul Barra, they
4:07
were even more dependent upon Napoleon
4:09
to retain their power, even
4:11
if that power was now
4:13
greater. But weren't they withholding
4:16
campaigns from him because he refused to
4:18
do that one campaign? In
4:21
the beginning, at that time. But remember, his
4:23
successes down in Italy were so
4:25
massive that he was the
4:27
one with basically all of the
4:29
military clout at that point. So
4:32
now no one's stopping him. So now no one is really
4:34
stopping him. But here's the problem with
4:36
being a successful military leader. You
4:39
need to continue to be a
4:41
successful military leader. You
4:43
can't just stop you can't just sit back and went, oh, yeah,
4:45
I did this thing 30 years ago. And so now I'm great.
4:48
You have to continue going if you want
4:51
to maintain your relevancy when it comes to
4:53
politics. Basically, oh,
4:55
sorry, basically, their social media. You
4:57
know, pretty much. Yeah, you literally become irrelevant
4:59
otherwise. So after wrapping up the
5:01
Italian campaign and then forcing the Treaty of
5:03
Campo Formia in the Austrians, he returned back
5:05
to Paris in December of 1797. And
5:08
his population, the population, his
5:10
popularity, his popularity, his reputation
5:12
is everything was massive.
5:15
It was stronger than ever. And
5:17
as a result of this, he was given
5:19
command over the Army of England, which
5:21
the whole name for like what that means
5:24
is that this was the force that
5:26
was going to be launching a naval invasion of
5:28
England itself. They were like
5:31
the French were planning on marching
5:33
their boots onto English soil. But
5:36
just after two months of planning, Bonaparte
5:38
would come to the conclusion that an
5:40
invasion was still not likely to work.
5:43
The reason being is that even with the French having tried
5:45
to build up their Navy, he just
5:48
did not compare to the British Royal
5:50
Navy. There's
5:52
no point in trying to ship across
5:54
thousands of men on transport vessels, and
5:56
then those transport vessels getting
5:58
blown up in the water. That's
6:01
not a good idea at all. So
6:04
he had to do something else. He
6:06
knew that his popularity was going to fade
6:08
over time if he didn't try and get
6:10
a command that would have, well,
6:13
good prospects, things that would allow for
6:15
more glory, riches, and to bring power
6:17
to the state. So
6:20
with things on the mainland of Europe
6:22
being more at peace, he
6:25
proposed an expedition to Egypt.
6:28
The whole purpose behind this and why he wanted
6:30
to go to Egypt was that it was ostensibly
6:33
to secure French trade interests in the
6:35
region while creating a base from which
6:37
they could later invade India, which was
6:40
extremely important to the British economy and
6:42
also power and prestige. So think
6:44
about it. The British lose India.
6:46
That is a huge blow to
6:48
the empire. Of
6:50
course, it would be a stretch to say that the invasion
6:52
of Egypt was actually strategically
6:54
important for the French. The
6:57
biggest issue with this was that,
6:59
technically speaking, the Ottoman Empire was
7:01
an ally of France at the time. And
7:04
technically speaking again, Egypt
7:07
was a province of the Ottoman
7:09
Empire despite it being governed independently
7:11
by the Mamluks. This
7:14
is one of the weird little details in
7:16
history for it's like the state of Egypt
7:18
was independent, but it wasn't
7:20
actually independent. Like it was
7:22
technically part of the Ottoman Empire, but for all
7:24
intents and purposes, it ran pretty much everything itself.
7:26
It was almost completely independent. So
7:29
the second issue though, is
7:31
that the same obstacle for invading
7:33
Britain was also present in
7:35
the Mediterranean, the British Navy.
7:39
Admiral Nelson and his Mediterranean fleet had
7:41
complete control of the seas, so this
7:43
would be a little bit
7:45
difficult. Even
7:47
so, Napoleon needed military
7:49
action and the directory fearing
7:51
Napoleon's popularity and the possibility of another
7:53
coup, they wanted Napoleon to
7:55
be as far away from Paris as
7:57
possible. So rumors spread.
8:00
spread through Europe as 40,000 French
8:02
soldiers and 10,000 sailors
8:04
began massing in southern France.
8:06
To keep the British guessing, only Napoleon
8:09
and two of his generals knew where
8:11
the final destination was. And
8:13
that, my friends, was Egypt. So
8:17
on May 19, 1798,
8:19
Napoleon would set sail from Toulon. His
8:21
first stop was to secure the fort at Malta,
8:23
and then under the governance of, which was at
8:25
the time under the governance of the Order of
8:28
St. John, which is one of its own fascinating
8:30
little details when talking about this, the old Knightly
8:32
Orders. Yeah, the Knightly Orders
8:34
from like back in the Crusades were
8:36
still around. Like the Knights of St. John,
8:38
this is the Knights Hospitaller. That's
8:41
them. They became pirates off the island of
8:43
Rhodes, and then after they got kicked out
8:46
of there by the Ottomans, essentially, they fled
8:48
to Malta, and from Malta, they essentially served
8:50
as their own kind of little naval base
8:53
and raiding force where they would continuously attack
8:55
Ottoman shipping, like in the continuous Crusades, so
8:57
to speak. It's
8:59
a fascinating little thing. Anyway,
9:02
he took this over immediately and
9:04
secured an important naval base from which you'd
9:06
be able to launch further invasions. As
9:09
an aside, this very small
9:12
action had major effects on
9:14
European politics. Tsutsar, Paul
9:16
I of Russia, had previously been
9:18
granted the nominal title of Protector
9:21
of the Order for previous dealings
9:23
with the organization. The
9:25
French dissolved the Order, and many knights
9:27
would flee to Russia, where they would
9:30
appoint Tsar Paul as the new Grand
9:32
Master. So Tsar Paul planned
9:34
an expedition to retake the island,
9:36
but the British ended up beating
9:38
him to it. When it
9:41
was clear that the British would not
9:43
return the island to the Knights of
9:45
St. John, Tsar Paul banned British ships
9:47
from entering Russian ports under penalty of
9:49
seizure and closed off Russian ports under
9:51
British trade. This
9:53
could have escalated into open conflict had
9:55
Paul not been assassinated and then replaced
9:58
by his more competent son, Alexander. into
10:00
the first. So did he do
10:02
all of that because he was Grandmaster? Yeah,
10:04
basically, it was also a huge matter of power
10:06
and prestige. And think about this, what
10:08
do the Russians want access to all
10:11
the time throughout history at this point? The
10:13
ocean. So the problem with
10:15
all their ports in the up in the north
10:18
is that they freeze over in the winter. And
10:20
so they really needed more ports and access to
10:22
other sea routes. And yeah, they have the Black
10:24
Sea. But the problem with the Black Sea at
10:26
that point is that the Ottomans
10:28
serve as a kind of gate that
10:30
they can't really get past very easily
10:32
to actually influence things in the Mediterranean.
10:35
So if they had a naval base in
10:38
Malta, in the literal middle of
10:41
the Mediterranean, that means Russian power
10:43
and influence could affect things even
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But I digress. After securing Malta,
12:54
the French fleet would set sail for Egypt and
12:57
would manage to avoid the British Navy that was
12:59
hunting them. On July 1st,
13:01
Napoleon and the French would land
13:03
near the city of Alexandria. And
13:05
in trademark fashion, Napoleon immediately marched
13:07
4,000 infantry to
13:10
the city with literally no cavalry
13:12
or artillery support or anything.
13:14
He tried to move as fast as possible so
13:16
that the city was not going to be able
13:18
to call for reinforcements from the surrounding area. And
13:21
after some resistance, the garrison would have banned
13:24
their positions and France would enter
13:26
the city. And that's where he
13:28
fired up the pyramids. Oh my
13:30
god, no, no Ridley Scott. No,
13:33
he did not. I know that the whole reason
13:35
they probably did that is for two reasons, one
13:37
dramatic effects and two, so that they wouldn't have
13:39
to actually show any of the stuff for the
13:41
Egyptian campaign. It's like, oh man, how do we
13:43
represent that this guy went to Egypt? Let's
13:46
just shoot at the pyramids. And that's like
13:48
the one of the only scenes in the
13:50
entire movie with him there. And then
13:53
he left because his wife cheated on him,
13:55
which happens. Yeah, yeah, which happens to the
13:57
best of us. That's also
13:59
not how that whole thing went down
14:01
but you know Ridley Scott
14:03
you know you do you you do you from all
14:06
these very things I get all
14:08
of my knowledge from Ridley Scott movies oh
14:12
guys if you could see the look he just gave me
14:14
um oh man I'm in danger
14:17
I say that on this note I to
14:19
this day but my favorite one of my
14:21
favorite historical movies is gladiator I love that
14:23
movie and it's not historical really at all
14:25
with the setup and how it goes down
14:27
it's definitely just a drama but it's
14:30
a lot easier for something like that for representing something from
14:32
over 2,000 years ago versus
14:36
now yes the recent history
14:38
of Napoleon yes relatively 200 years
14:41
versus 2,000 is a big
14:43
difference okay it is
14:45
a big difference and also there's
14:47
a whole thing that apparently gladiator 2 is going to be
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a thing and I'm gonna have to do a review of
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the stuff that they're talking about with this because considering
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how movies have gone I have
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some worries from the beginning
15:00
some mild concern some mild
15:02
concerns yes so
15:05
okay he goes and takes the
15:07
city fast right all right with the
15:09
city secure the remaining expeditionary force completely
15:12
disembarked and the fleet would go to
15:14
seek shelter in Abuqir Bay the
15:17
French wanted to avoid an open battle with the
15:19
Royal Navy and they thought that the bay would
15:21
be able to afford them safe Anchorage which we're
15:23
gonna be talking about here later Napoleon
15:26
and the majority of the army within set out
15:28
for Cairo there were a few
15:30
minor engagements along the route which the
15:32
French would easily manage but on
15:34
the on July 20th the
15:37
French would meet a force of mama
15:39
Luke's about nine miles away from the
15:41
pyramids of Giza Napoleon had
15:43
around 25,000 soldiers compared to the
15:45
mama Luke force of 21,000 and
15:48
most of the mama Luke's were cavalry
15:50
units who were equipped with lances and
15:52
pistols meaning they didn't really have much
15:54
range on them when
15:56
the mama looks charged the French would form
15:58
a large square with the cannon and supplies
16:01
in the center. And when the
16:03
Mamalu cavalry retreated, about 6,000 of
16:06
them were dead in comparison to the 300
16:08
French infantry. Because the guys just
16:10
charged into a straight up gun and
16:13
spear wall, which I
16:15
don't know if I should say this to anyone, because
16:17
I'm not sure if they're aware of it. That's
16:21
a bad idea. The
16:23
battle was another propaganda coup for Napoleon
16:25
and his forces. He'd come to Egypt
16:27
as a supposed liberator, wanting to free
16:29
the Egyptians from their Mamaluk overlords, and
16:31
he had yet to lose a battle.
16:33
He also ensured that his accomplishments would make their
16:35
way back to Paris, but even
16:38
so, there was no real
16:40
prospect for reinforcements, and every
16:42
single French casualty was worth
16:44
infinitely more than a Mamalu
16:47
casualty. The majority of the Mamalu
16:49
forces, some 40,000 soldiers,
16:52
stayed away from the battle. And if we
16:54
go and couple that with the retreating forces, the
16:56
Mamaluks could still muster a force of around 55,000
16:58
strong, which
17:00
was much bigger than
17:03
Napoleon's force. And remember, with
17:05
the British controlling the Mediterranean, you
17:07
can't really do much about getting more troops in. The
17:10
Mamaluks would abandon Cairo, and
17:13
on July 22nd, officials from Cairo would
17:15
travel to Giza to surrender to Napoleon.
17:18
Napoleon would relocate his headquarters and base
17:20
of operations to Cairo then, and
17:22
the Mamaluq forces were then split with
17:25
one army moving further south and
17:27
another heading toward Syria. Napoleon
17:29
would dispatch one of his generals to chase
17:31
the southern army, while he would lead a
17:33
force toward Syria. Napoleon would
17:36
manage to catch up with the Mamaluks
17:38
led by Ibrahim Bey, and there would
17:40
win a resounding victory that pushed the
17:42
enemy out of Egypt completely. But
17:46
Napoleon was not gonna be able to celebrate for long. Admiral
17:48
Nelson and the Royal Navy would go and
17:51
launch a daring attack into Avakir Bey in
17:53
what was become known as the Battle of the
17:55
Nile. The French fleet felt that
17:58
they were anchored close enough to shore. and
18:00
that they could only be attacked from one side.
18:02
But half of the British ships
18:05
were able to cross the French line, which
18:07
in turn subjected the French ships
18:09
to broadsides from both directions. Out
18:12
of 15 ships in the French
18:14
fleet, only four managed
18:16
to escape. The rest were
18:18
destroyed or captured. This
18:21
would completely end any prospect of the
18:23
French gaining any kind of upper hand
18:25
in the Mediterranean. Now
18:27
publicly, Napoleon did not let the
18:29
French naval defeat demoralize him. He
18:32
would continue setting up his administration in Egypt
18:34
and he issued a proclamation that cast him
18:36
as a liberator rather than an oppressor. A
18:39
tactic that he would very oftentimes, and
18:41
frequently he would employ this over the course of his career.
18:44
However, the Egyptian populace didn't
18:47
really believe what it was
18:49
that he was saying. Like if they even understood
18:51
any of his writings that were very poorly translated
18:53
into Arabic in the first place. The
18:56
Muslim population would continue to resist
18:58
him and assassinate French personnel wherever
19:00
it is that they could. So
19:03
he was like, guys, guys, I'm here to
19:05
free you. I'm doing a great
19:07
job freeing you. Yes. And
19:09
they were like, no, fuck you. Yes,
19:12
literally that. There was also one key other thing.
19:14
And I remember there was a thing that he
19:16
tried to do. He tried to bring a whole
19:18
bunch of like Muslim scholars and very influential figures
19:20
in and was somewhat kind of implying during that
19:23
time that he was kind of maybe, perhaps, maybe
19:25
I don't know, maybe interested
19:28
in converting to Islam, just
19:31
to like get them to kind of support him. But
19:34
they could see through his life. He
19:36
didn't know what to make of it because who
19:38
the hell comes to their country, conquers everything and
19:41
just goes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I might
19:44
be interested in your stuff. He's
19:46
like, guys, guys, I'm one of you. Don't
19:50
hate me, come on. All spare in love
19:52
and war. Oh yeah. So
19:54
in early 1799, Napoleon moves an army of
19:56
13,000 men into the Ottoman
19:58
province of Damascus. He goes
20:00
and assaults several coastal fortresses, including
20:02
a brutal siege of Jaffa. And
20:05
Jaffa held significant strategic importance for
20:07
supply lines, and Napoleon knew that
20:09
he would need to secure the
20:11
fortress if he wanted to continue
20:13
his advantage. So early in
20:16
the siege, Napoleon would send an envoy to the
20:18
garrison commander to discuss terms of surrender. But
20:21
the envoy was returned to the French without
20:24
a head. This
20:26
was going to very much piss
20:28
off Napoleon, and the assault on
20:30
Jaffa would be bloody. But
20:33
the French would succeed in breaching and securing
20:35
the fortress. In the
20:38
coming days, Napoleon had 4,500
20:40
prisoners shot or beheaded
20:43
in bloody reprisals in order to send a
20:45
message to future towns that they
20:47
needed to surrender. Also
20:50
in kind of revenge for what it is that they did to his
20:52
envoy. After securing
20:54
Jaffa, Napoleon would lay siege to Acre. And
20:57
by this point, the British Royal
20:59
Navy was actively reinforcing the coastal
21:01
fortresses wherever possible. At
21:03
Acre, the French were able to take outer
21:05
defenses. But the British would
21:08
land boat crews and artillery pieces to
21:10
assist in Acre's defense. As
21:12
it happened, a French émigré and
21:14
engineer who attended the École Militaire
21:16
with Napoleon was actually the guy
21:18
who was in charge of placing
21:20
the artillery and used Napoleon's tactics
21:22
against him. The defenders
21:25
would fight off three French assaults and
21:27
from that would force Napoleon to withdraw
21:29
or suffer even more heavy losses. French
21:33
forces, by that point, remember since
21:35
they can't really reinforce, are becoming
21:37
dangerously depleted. Despite
21:39
less than 2,000 soldiers dying in
21:42
combat, thousands of more
21:44
were being lost to disease,
21:46
dehydration, and desertion. During
21:48
Napoleon's retreat from Acre, it's alleged that
21:50
Napoleon ordered that soldiers who were too
21:52
ill to march were to be poisoned
21:54
with opium to speed the army's movement.
21:57
And upon returning to Egypt, Napoleon would march to the
21:59
east. to Abakir, whose fort was now defended by
22:01
a garrison of 18,000 men. On
22:05
July 25th, the French would attack
22:07
and route the defenders after a few hours.
22:10
Close to 10,000 Ottomans would drown trying
22:12
to escape, with hundreds more being bayonet
22:14
before they could actually make it to
22:17
the water. Only a
22:19
few hundred of the original force of 18,000 managed
22:21
to escape. At
22:25
a land battle at Abakir, this
22:27
was going to be Bonaparte's last action
22:29
in Egypt. There simply wasn't
22:31
anything else they could really do there, and
22:33
Napoleon had learned of events that were taking
22:35
place back home in Paris. The
22:38
French armies were suffering against its enemies,
22:40
and the current administration was losing authority.
22:43
Napoleon would go and justify to himself
22:46
that his country needed him to restore
22:48
order, and began to plot his return.
22:51
Practically speaking, Napoleon's position in Egypt was hopeless. There was
22:53
nothing that they could do. The population
22:56
did not view him as a liberator. They
22:58
were openly resisting his administration. The
23:00
army was running low on supplies
23:02
and manpower, and getting further support
23:04
from Paris, this was possible. Napoleon
23:07
could not achieve anything by staying.
23:11
So Napoleon and a few of his
23:13
closest friends and generals would board a
23:15
ship in mid-August of 1799, under
23:17
the pretext that they were going to be cruising around
23:19
the Nile Delta so as to not arouse suspicion. The
23:22
escape was so shrouded in secrecy
23:25
that Napoleon did not even tell
23:27
his successor in Egypt except by
23:29
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23:31
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25:00
Off launches April 9th. So
25:03
he didn't leave to go back
25:05
because Josephine was cheating on him? No.
25:09
But he could have? No. But
25:12
maybe theoretically, at the
25:14
same time, he could have also... It could
25:16
have been a dual purpose for leaving.
25:19
No, really, Scott. No. It
25:22
was grand scale political events that were
25:24
happening, not his freaking cheating wife. I
25:28
like the cheating wife one more because it's a little
25:30
bit more romantic, a little bit more dramatic. I
25:33
mean, war is all fine and good, but... So
25:38
yeah, he leaves, right? And
25:40
the army did not initially take the
25:42
news well, of course, but the new
25:44
commander would assure everyone that Napoleon would
25:46
return with reinforcements and supplies to continue
25:48
the mission. And so
25:50
the French army would continue to operate in
25:53
Egypt all the way through
25:55
September of 1801
25:57
when they were finally able to surrender to
25:59
the English. and were then repatriated back
26:01
to France as part of the deal. The
26:04
French also had to hand over many of
26:06
their scientific discoveries to the British, including the
26:08
Rosetta Stone, which many people think it was
26:10
a British discovery. Nope, it was a French
26:13
one, which the British had to then negotiate
26:15
through blood to get. Napoleon's
26:17
voyage home was largely uneventful.
26:20
They would briefly stop by in Corsica due to the
26:22
weather in early October of 1799, and he
26:26
didn't know it in the moment, but
26:28
this was going to be the last
26:30
time that Napoleon would ever set foot
26:32
on his homeland. On
26:34
October 8, Napoleon would land in France and
26:37
immediately set out for Paris. France
26:40
was at this time threatened with invasion, and
26:42
unbeknownst to Napoleon, the Directory had sent
26:45
orders for him to return to France
26:47
with his army. However,
26:49
due to the British blockade,
26:51
those messages never actually reached
26:54
Napoleon. By the time
26:56
that he returned, French armies had
26:58
managed to secure several victories that would
27:00
stave off invasion for now. But
27:03
despite his failures in Egypt, Napoleon
27:05
was still greeted as a hero by the population. The
27:08
Directory, though, were quite
27:10
suspicious of him. They wanted
27:12
to punish him for his failure to secure Egypt
27:15
and for deserting his army, but
27:17
the Republic was bankrupt and the Directory
27:19
was simply too weak to actually punish
27:21
him. They needed him more than anything.
27:24
Napoleon quickly would go about setting himself up to
27:26
secure allies amongst the French legislators, and at the
27:28
same time, some of the members of the Directory.
27:31
Then on November 9, 1799,
27:34
Napoleon, backed by his brother Lucian
27:36
and a detachment of Grenadiers, would
27:39
force the government to dissolve and
27:41
appoint Napoleon and two of his
27:43
allies as consuls. Yes,
27:45
as in like the consuls in the
27:47
whole Roman consulate system, like the people in charge
27:49
of the military and the government. Now
27:52
in theory, Napoleon held equal status with
27:54
the other two consuls, but
27:57
in reality, yeah, he was the
27:59
guy who was quickly injured. He
28:01
very quickly would consolidate power and would
28:03
institute new rules for the legislative bodies
28:05
that had now been supposed to be
28:07
elected. These new rules
28:09
would ensure that Napoleon, his interests,
28:11
and his allies were always going to be
28:14
the guys who had the real power in
28:16
France. He would even introduce
28:18
a new constitution that was ratified
28:20
by the general population by a
28:22
miraculous margin. We are
28:24
talking about 3 million
28:27
votes in favor with
28:30
just 1,562 against. That's
28:34
it. The
28:36
numbers in the situation are, they
28:38
might be a little bit fudged. Napoleon
28:41
also understood by this point that France was
28:43
holding on by a thread. He
28:45
wanted to make peace with the other
28:48
European powers, but he felt that he
28:50
couldn't secure advantageous terms without more military
28:52
victories. How do you make peace
28:55
by having more war? It's
28:58
not the peace. He can get peace pretty much
29:00
at any time, probably, maybe. It's debatable.
29:03
But the terms of the
29:05
peace, being granted a certain
29:07
land, being granted certain trade
29:09
deals, being granted reprecussions, reparations,
29:11
that's the term. All
29:14
of these things would be determined based off the
29:16
war. So the more victories that he wins, even
29:18
if he doesn't have to physically occupy the other
29:21
land, they may just give him stuff. Okay,
29:23
so he just wanted to show them, hey, I'm super
29:25
scary. You want to do what I want? Like
29:28
what I say? Literally, yes. Makes
29:30
sense. Literally, yes. Just that he needs to get as
29:32
good of a deal as he possibly can because the
29:34
better the deal that he also has, the more it
29:36
secures his own popularity and legacy within France. That's
29:39
a poor point. So what
29:41
he then does is he assembles an army of 24,000
29:45
men and he crosses the Swiss Alps
29:47
to invade Italy, which by this point had
29:49
already been reclaimed by Austrian forces. On
29:52
June 14th, 1800, Napoleon would
29:54
go and clash with Austrian forces at the
29:56
Battle of Moringel. The Austrian army
29:58
was little more than that. 30,000
30:01
and they had initiated the battle. In
30:03
a very rare turn of events,
30:05
it was Napoleon who was caught
30:07
off guard and was slowly losing the battle.
30:10
But early in the afternoon,
30:13
French reinforcements would arrive and would
30:15
push the Austrians off of the
30:17
battlefield, leaving behind 14,000 casualties.
30:21
The next day, the Austrians would
30:23
agree to abandon northern Italy and
30:25
would sign an armistice, or an
30:27
armistice, not armistice, armistice, that's
30:30
the term, an armistice with, well, you
30:32
know, permanent peace deals were still being
30:34
discussed. Okay, so
30:37
reinforcements, so when they go to battle and they have
30:39
like 24,000 men, do they just
30:43
have like 10,000 more men marching
30:45
behind? Kind of, actually, yes. In some cases,
30:47
they would. So you typically have multiple forces that be
30:49
split up, you wouldn't just have your forces move in
30:51
one giant block or column, and then
30:54
on top of that, you even when you
30:56
go into a battle, there's a term of reserves. So
30:58
let's say you have a force of 10,000 men,
31:01
you maybe you only sent forward about
31:03
6000 of those men, and
31:05
then you kept 4000 in reserve,
31:08
the reserve are typically then used to
31:10
take advantage of a
31:12
situation like, well, you need to launch an attack
31:15
on the specific position that is a weaker point
31:17
for the enemy, or maybe your own men in
31:19
the center are starting to fall apart, and you
31:21
need to reinforce and send their position, like reinforce
31:24
their positions by sending into the reserve. Okay,
31:26
I get that. But if you split your forces back then,
31:28
it's not like you have GPS, you don't have a cell
31:30
phone, you're not gonna be like, okay, meet me at the
31:32
rock next to the tree where we're gonna fight on this
31:35
big battlefield next to the river. Yeah, no, you're
31:37
100% right. And that's also why they would utilize
31:39
teams of messengers to kind of keep track as
31:41
to where the armies were, but they're varying different
31:43
positions. And they would send off
31:45
these messengers to meet up to ride and
31:47
then this courier system would be able to
31:49
communicate that. Were there battles
31:52
where the reinforcements got lost? Yes.
31:55
Oh my god, yes. All throughout history, there have been
31:57
cases of reinforcements getting lost not showing up all day.
32:00
one time, et cetera, et cetera,
32:02
sometimes refusing to show up. Okay,
32:04
yeah, I could see that happening. Just be like,
32:06
okay, you guys are losing. Why would we, why
32:08
would we? The worst cases
32:10
of reinforcements just not doing that were you
32:12
would have generals that would be controlling armies
32:15
and those generals were rivals with the other
32:17
generals. And they would go, oh no, I'm
32:20
sorry, I just couldn't make it in time. Bad
32:23
luck. What? Yeah,
32:25
yeah, that was a big problem. In
32:27
fact, one of the big issues even
32:29
that the British had during the American
32:31
Revolution were British generals competing with one
32:33
another for essentially
32:35
power and influence. So they were oftentimes
32:37
working almost against each other down in
32:39
the South as they were working
32:41
together. I love
32:44
that though. I love that though. That
32:46
can't happen today because we know where everyone
32:48
is, right? Kind of, yes. It
32:51
still can happen, mind you, but not like
32:53
what it would have before. What would happen
32:56
now is you can have situations where maybe
32:58
it's on the much more minor level of, oh,
33:01
someone didn't call in something that they were supposed
33:03
to for logistics. Oh no, I forgot to file
33:05
this paperwork that was gonna get your men some
33:08
time off. There's
33:11
way more minor things they can do now. They
33:14
could be petty, but they can't be detrimental
33:16
to the overall war effort. It would be
33:18
much harder too. Yeah, that's right. That's
33:21
definitely right. So after
33:24
these victories, right, Napoleon was immensely
33:26
popular. He was already popular, but
33:28
his popularity now was stronger than
33:30
it ever was, but
33:33
his enemies were also growing. Napoleon
33:36
would survive several assassination attempts,
33:39
and ultimately he would use these
33:41
as a pretext for arresting hundreds
33:43
of Yakovins and Royalists, further strengthening
33:45
his own grip on the government.
33:48
In March of 1802, the British
33:50
and the French would formally sign a
33:52
peace agreement. It was widely
33:54
believed that this was something that was
33:56
well good, only gonna be a temporary
33:59
peace, with both. sides licking their wounds
34:01
and preparing for another conflict. During
34:04
this piece, Napoleon was elected consul
34:06
for life by the general population
34:09
with 99% of
34:11
the votes being in favor. At
34:14
least that was the official party statement, mind
34:16
you. What was the point of getting
34:18
rid of a king and then just putting
34:20
someone in charge for life? The king
34:22
was, to be fair, kind of horribly incompetent.
34:26
Napoleon was not. I get that, but
34:28
still, everything they worked to
34:30
break down for having somebody with all of
34:33
this power, they just gave somebody all
34:35
of this power. Mm-hmm. No, it's true.
34:37
It's almost like the French enjoy having something
34:39
to revolt against. No, it's true.
34:41
No, you are entirely right. The whole purpose of
34:44
the French Revolution kind of came crashing down. There's
34:46
a reason why there have been multiple French revolutions,
34:48
so to speak. There's been, of course, there's the
34:50
one big one. We covered that in its entirety,
34:52
which is this whole thing that is even now,
34:54
this is an offshoot of it. But
34:57
the French have had multiple different revolutions,
34:59
so to speak, and there is a reason why they
35:01
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Wait, I forget was the fourth
36:42
republic or fifth republic? They're
36:45
on one. Okay, hold on.
36:47
No, this is gonna bother me. The second French republic
36:49
was brought down by Napoleon the third. Well, the first
36:51
one was brought down by Napoleon. The second
36:53
one was brought down by his nephew,
36:55
Napoleon the third. This brought then the
36:58
third French revolution, or
37:00
not the revolution, but the third government
37:03
of the republican government. This the third
37:05
government is what was brought down. Okay, they're on
37:07
their fourth. I don't know fourth
37:09
because I just googled it and they said the
37:11
fourth republic was dissolved on the fifth of October
37:13
1958. Oh, wait,
37:16
it was the third that was brought down. First
37:19
one was brought down by Napoleon. The
37:21
second one, you had the Bourbon restoration. This
37:24
was then brought down and a new republican government
37:26
was put into place. This
37:28
was then brought down by
37:30
the by
37:33
Napoleon the third, right? And then you
37:36
had the third one. When
37:39
did the third one end? 1940.
37:42
Oh my god, that's why? Why of
37:45
all things, why would I suddenly forget
37:47
that the third republican government would be
37:49
destroyed with the occupation of Germany? And
37:52
then the fourth republic is 1946 to 1958. And the fifth one is 1958
37:54
to present day. Also, how
37:59
does it work? Nowadays, like I
38:01
know this one guy has been prime minister or
38:03
president forever. The French system allows for
38:05
I think it was seven years. When
38:08
you are, when you're the president of France, it's
38:10
seven, it's a seven year term, if I recall
38:12
correctly. And how many terms can they do that? I
38:15
don't remember. Because I feel like
38:17
this guy's been around since I gained consciousness enough
38:19
to pay attention to politics. I mean, I
38:21
remember he... Good old matharoon. I think
38:24
it was, was he elected in 2014? And
38:26
I think it might be two terms. I
38:28
think that's a total of 14 years. I was
38:30
still in high school. Because I'm pretty sure he won reelection
38:32
in like 2021 or 2022. So
38:36
he's going to be there for a while unless they like revolution
38:39
him. Oh my gosh. This is going to bother me.
38:41
I know that people are like, Oh, get back to
38:43
the story Napoleon. Okay, hold on. We're almost
38:45
done with this story of Napoleon. We also
38:47
need some side quests, guys. That's the whole
38:49
point. The crown election. It was a 20. Oh,
38:52
it was 2017 when he was elected. Okay. So
38:54
hold on. It was, he was elected
38:56
in 2017. That went
38:58
for... It's a seven year period.
39:01
And that means that, okay, he just won reelection.
39:04
That was the thing. Macron just won reelection, right? It's
39:07
a side quest. I know. Okay. But
39:09
it's something in here in 2022. It's so funny
39:12
though, because there's this one article that
39:14
goes, the headline is Macron slams
39:16
two term limit on French presidency
39:18
as damnable bullshit. Oh
39:21
no. Napoleon the 17th. Which
39:25
ironically to the state, there actually are still
39:27
houses within France. You have the Oleone's house.
39:29
You have the Bonaparte and you have the
39:32
other one. Why can't I remember the other
39:34
one? Why can't you remember anything
39:36
today? Oleone, Bonbon and
39:39
Bonaparte. Those are the three. Sorry
39:42
guys, his brain. We had it charging and I
39:44
guess he didn't let it like sleep. Anyway,
39:47
yeah, there's still a whole thing that you
39:49
could claim like who actually is the rightful
39:51
heir to the throne of France today. Like
39:53
that is a thing. So
39:56
anyway, yeah, he gets elected with 99% of
39:58
the vote. And
40:00
he also then uses the temporary piece
40:02
to go and shore up the French
40:04
colonies, to fix up the French economy
40:06
and to strengthen the military. By
40:09
1803, conflict with England
40:11
seemed imminent, and Napoleon decided that
40:14
he needed to raise cash before
40:16
hostilities would break out. His
40:18
solution at this time was the
40:20
Louisiana Purchase. This agreement would allow
40:23
the United States to double its land size in
40:25
return for $15 million of
40:27
badly needed funds, which was
40:29
an amazing deal for the
40:31
Americans, and it completely... It's
40:33
kind of funny. He really needed this money,
40:36
right? So the Louisiana
40:38
Purchase is a thing
40:40
that probably helped to propagate even more
40:42
wars in Europe. That's
40:44
another funny way of looking at it. Another
40:47
attempt by French royalists to remove Napoleon
40:49
through assassination was carried out in February
40:51
of 1804. This
40:54
attempt also failed, naturally,
40:57
but it allowed Napoleon to once again
40:59
use the plot as a pretext to
41:01
further his ambitions. He secured
41:03
the necessary support on May 18, 1804,
41:05
and in that, the
41:08
Senate would proclaim Napoleon Bonaparte,
41:11
Emperor of the French. They
41:14
went from a king to an emperor. Yes.
41:17
Why? Do they
41:19
understand that an emperor is more powerful than their
41:21
king, their former king? But now it was
41:23
the glorious French empire that was winning great victories
41:25
all over the world, and that
41:27
was the important detail. With this,
41:30
they would approve a new constitution. And do
41:32
you want to guess how big of
41:34
a vote this was? Landslide
41:37
victory. 99%
41:40
of the popular vote, like one from
41:42
the general population. This is what
41:44
would confirm Napoleon's new government. Yay!
41:47
Also, quick little side
41:50
note, but you said the presidency
41:52
for the French was seven years, but
41:55
in 2000, a referendum shortened that term
41:57
from seven years to five years. Ah,
41:59
man. And that's what it was. Okay, so I was wondering, the math didn't
42:01
add up on like the whole 2017 to 2022. So
42:04
that's what it was. Awesome. Thank you for
42:06
that, Gabby. So yeah, the
42:08
vote happens here. It confirms his
42:10
power. However, his ascension is not
42:12
recognized by the European community with
42:15
the lone exception being Austria, who
42:17
was not ready for another conflict and was like,
42:19
Oh, yeah, awesome. We now have not a crazy
42:22
revolutionary nut job case. We have
42:24
an actual empire again. Awesome. Monarchists
42:27
in Europe were somewhat pleased with that at least.
42:31
And so it was then that a minor
42:33
Italian nobleman born on the
42:35
island of Corsica became the
42:37
French Emperor. On
42:40
December 2nd, 1804, Napoleon was
42:42
crowned Emperor of the French. Pope
42:45
Pius VII would anoint Napoleon before Napoleon
42:48
would ultimately and
42:51
famously crown himself
42:53
with a replica of the crown of Charlemagne. That's
42:57
right that there's this whole thing of Napoleon, snatching
42:59
the crown off the out of the
43:01
Pope's hand and crowning himself. Is
43:04
that even legal? Let me explain this. Okay,
43:06
it makes sense. It makes sense as to why he would
43:08
do this. A lot of people
43:10
try to say that this was Napoleon's ego. That
43:13
is the reason as to why he did. No,
43:16
no, no, there is a huge, symbolical thing there.
43:18
Do you remember when we did the whole thing
43:20
on the Holy Roman Empire, Gabby, with the Gidlings
43:22
and the Giuseppes and the whole point about the
43:25
Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire had to be
43:27
crowned by the Pope? Yeah. This
43:29
meant that the Pope had a lot of authority over
43:32
the Holy Roman Emperor. So the
43:34
original HRE Emperor, Charlemagne, where
43:36
a lot of them would derive their
43:38
authority from later on. So it's
43:40
really, the Carolusian Empire is a different entity than
43:42
the Holy Roman Empire, to be fair. But
43:45
still, either way, in crowning
43:47
himself, that meant that the
43:49
Empire, he was not a
43:51
king. He was not going to be beholden
43:53
to the Pope. The Pope wouldn't have this
43:55
authority over the French state. That
43:58
was only him. So it wasn't a thing that… was done
44:00
out of ego. It was literally a separation of
44:02
church and state of he is separate. He is
44:04
his own authority and entity and the Pope can't
44:06
tell him what to do. The
44:09
whole thing was just to say the Pope can't tell him what to do. Kind
44:11
of. Yeah. Yeah. I got that. Yeah,
44:13
that's that's all that. That's the whole thing here.
44:15
So that's what happens. And that
44:18
really is it for us here today. We're
44:20
gonna wrap up Napoleon story in next week's episode. I promise
44:22
that is that is that is going to be a thing.
44:24
We're at the point where you know he gets crowned. He
44:26
is the Emperor. The only thing left for him to do
44:28
now at this point is lose
44:31
that crown. That's really sad
44:33
that okay, getting crowned emperor and then losing
44:35
the crown kind of disappointing, especially
44:37
since he rose up from literally nothing. Yeah,
44:40
hate to see it. Yeah. My
44:42
friends, thank you all for listening. I hope
44:45
you'll join us for the next one. And I hope
44:47
you check out our links in the descriptions down below
44:49
here for Patreon. If you want ad free episodes, if
44:51
you want to join us on one of our trips
44:53
to travel here in the future, any
44:55
event, by all means, thank
44:57
you for listening. And I'll see you next
44:59
time. Bye, my friends. Bye.
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