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Hello and welcome to the History of
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Philosophy in China, by Peter Adamson
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and Karen Lai, brought to you
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with the support of the Philosophy Department at King's
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College London and the LMU in Munich, online
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at historyofphilosophy.net. Today's
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episode, Journey of a Thousand
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Li, Introduction to Chinese
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Philosophy. When
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we embark on a trip, we typically have
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a destination in mind. Setting off
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each morning on the way to work or
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jetting off for a vacation, the aim is
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to get to the destination. But
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have you ever wandered without a purpose,
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intending simply to enjoy whatever you come
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across? In this scenario,
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your experience of the journey rather than
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the journey's destination is the focal point
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of the activity. The Chinese
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concept, Dao, may refer to both.
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Either the journey's end or, in contrast,
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a journey with no fixed itinerary. The
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travel metaphor expresses the different ways early
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Chinese thinkers thought about how best to
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live. Some, like the Confucians,
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proposed a vision of a good life,
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a destination, so to speak, that we
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should all aspire to reach. Others,
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such as the Daoists, did not
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emphasize specific life goals but instead
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advocated letting our engagement with the
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world shape our next steps. Speaking
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of next steps, we are now taking some of
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our own, as the podcast moves
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on to consider the history of philosophy in
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China. In the dozens of
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episodes to come, we will encounter philosophical
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questions raised by early Chinese thinkers and
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find that they were far from reaching
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unanimous agreement about those questions. Yet
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they did converge on some shared concerns.
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Early Chinese texts that inform our views
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of Chinese philosophy, starting from the late
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5th century BCE, actively explored
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humanity's place in the world. what
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makes us distinctively human, such as
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our ability to interact and collaborate with others
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and to care for others appropriately. They
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discussed which goods humans should pursue.
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Some proposed visions of a flourishing society,
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while others placed more weight on individual
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initiative. These texts convey
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the early Chinese awareness of the embeddedness
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of humanity in the cosmic, natural, and
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political worlds. The question of
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how we orientate ourselves in the world was
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primary to these thinkers, though as they recognized,
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it may not be a question that can
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be settled once and for all. The
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early Chinese also believed that the world
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is constantly undergoing changes and transformations. Some
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would say this is a unique feature of
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Chinese philosophy across its different traditions. In
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fact, that will be the topic for the second episode
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in this series. The challenge
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of learning to thrive within a dynamic,
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changing world is one that underlies much
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of Chinese philosophy. As
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they rose to that challenge, various
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Chinese traditions debated ideals and values,
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and also discussed how individuals could
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cultivate themselves to develop capabilities for
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navigating the world. In
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this series, we will be looking especially at
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the Confucians, the Moists, the Taoists, and the
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Legalists, while also touching on the views of
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lesser-known thinkers up to and including the period
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of Chinese Buddhism's early development over the latter
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half of the Han period, which ran from
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206 BCE to 220 CE. To
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begin our exploration of Chinese philosophy, let us
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return to the idea of Tao, which
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comes up in a number of these traditions. We
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look first at Confucianism. You
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may be familiar with criticisms of
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Confucian philosophy as traditionalist or even
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as advocating authoritarianism. We
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will need to reckon with such accusations in due
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course, but whenever one decides about them, it has
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to be said that there is much more to
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Confucian philosophy than that. Confucian
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philosophy, of course, traces its origins to
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the philosopher usually known as Confucius, born
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in 551 BCE. We will call
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him by his real name, Kong Su, but for convenience, we will be looking
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at the Confucian so used the adjective
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confusion to describe the tradition. The
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Confucians were optimistic, believing that their
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resources for morality lie within humanity.
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The early Confucians lived during a time when
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manual labor was the primary and only way
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of life for the vast majority of people,
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including for men, women, and children. Thus
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it is striking that, during a time
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when life was difficult and society unequal,
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they believed that everyone, without exception, had
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the capacity to live moral lives. Of
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course, in practical terms, not everyone could become
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a learned gentleman, much less a king. However,
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the point the Confucians were making was
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not about status, but about a person's
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moral capacities. The Manzi,
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a Confucian text from the 4th
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century BCE, makes this claim boldly,
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The sage and we are the same in kind.
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The Confucian Tao is built on a
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conviction that our moral capacities are valuable
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resources for a flourishing society. When
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properly harnessed and developed, these capacities can
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help us lead better lives. The
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Confucian vision includes a hierarchically organized society,
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a view most of us would hesitate
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to accept today. However,
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Confucian philosophy also holds that only those
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with firm moral commitments should be models
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for others. In
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attaining this vision, institutions are key,
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not institutional buildings or organizations, but
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practices that help us interact better
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because they incorporate and express benevolence
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in our interchanges. That's an
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idea we still have today. Consider
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the concept of duty of care in
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contemporary law. Although the
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practicalities associated with this concept vary from
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country to country, the basic idea is
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that people in specific positions or occupations
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are responsible for putting in place measures
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that help ensure, as far as possible,
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the safety or well-being of others who
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are under their care. For
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example, the kindergarten teacher should make sure there are
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no hazards in the play area and the
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doctor should make sure the patients are receiving the right
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treatment. Such professions
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develop sets of practices to ensure that the
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duty of care is fulfilled. These
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might be explicit and elaborate like the
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regulations at a hospital, but they can
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also be informal, even unconscious, like using
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a gentle tone of voice when speaking
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to a kindergarten child, or adopting a
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sympathetic facial expression when giving bad news
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to a patient. These
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sorts of practices, developed to implement the
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idea of duty of care, aim at
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benevolence. For the Confucians,
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the Tao consists above all in
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creating and following just such practices.
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They emphasize that the practices of benevolence cover
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many aspects of life, including our interactions with
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family members, as well as the measures taken
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by governments for the welfare of the people.
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Morality is made possible through institutions that
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have been developed by morally enlightened leaders.
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For people in a society to follow
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tried and tested Tao's helps bring
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people together cohesively in their shared
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practices. As we will
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see in later episodes, the Confucians thought
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deeply about the processes and support necessary
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for developing our moral capacities in order
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to establish a benevolent society. The
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Confucian Tao is thus a closely monitored
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journey with a specific destination, which offers
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a contrast from what we find in
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Taoist philosophy. In
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general, Taoist philosophy promotes a more open-ended approach
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to a good life. Of
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course, the concept Tao gives Taoism its name,
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which can be a bit confusing given that,
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as we just saw, other groups like the
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Confucians do also use it. But
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the name is not inappropriate since Tao does
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have a unique place in Taoism. One
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way to think about Tao in this tradition
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is to understand it as a generative and
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sustaining source. The Tao De
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Ching, a text compiled prior to the
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2nd century BCE, says that Tao is
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muddied, yet complete, prior to heaven and
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earth and mother of all things. In
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this passage at Tao De Ching,
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chapter 25, we are also told
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that Tao is unnamable because it
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encompasses the entirety of all beings,
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entities, forces, energies, spaces, and void.
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But Tao is neither a final state nor an
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ideal one, according to the Bible. to which the
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places of each of the myriad things are mapped out.
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Rather, all things continue in an
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ongoing, dynamic, transformative process. It
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is because Tao encompasses things known
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and unknown, which are ostensibly interacting,
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that it is said to be
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without name, wu-ming. Another
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way to think about the Taoist Tao takes us
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back to the idea of Tao as an open-ended
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journey. Imagine going out
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for a walk without a destination. Of
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course you may decide to walk in the bush or
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forest or in a particular part of a city, but
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you're not aiming to get anywhere in particular. You
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might end up going to a café for a
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while, booking some tickets for a concert that evening,
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taking a nap in a shady spot, having a
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drink with a friend, or popping your earbuds in
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to enjoy your favorite philosophy podcast. These
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decisions are made on the spot, as it were, depending
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on what you might encounter during your walk. The
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idea that there is no fixed itinerary
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opens up room for self-directed actions. On
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such a journey, we respond to circumstances as
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they arise in the moment. Not
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having to keep track of where we are
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with respect to a destination, we may act
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more spontaneously. The idea
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of spontaneity is often used in connection
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with the Taoist word wu-wei. Wu-wei
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may be understood as taking actions that are
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not directed, whether by others or
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according to predetermined goals. It
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concerns the nature of our engagement with the world. To
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make this view, Taoist philosophy creates space
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for our attentiveness to circumstances, especially
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as no destination is set. Walking
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along a road to explore what it may bring
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is part of this idea, but so also is
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the opportunity to make new roads. On
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this point, it makes sense to say that the Tao
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is unnameable. You do not want to
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lock in exactly where you are heading by naming
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a destination or an activity and you cannot prescribe
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paths for others. How
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far can we go with this conception of the
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Tao within Taoism? The Chong-tze
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Taoist text, whose composition began around
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the 4th century BCE, speaks of
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wandering. The very first chapter is the Taoist tradition.
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entitled Carefree Wandering, Ciao Yao
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You, and contains stories
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and anecdotes about encountering a diversity
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of perspectives and responding to circumstances
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as they arise. But
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some may find that they are not really open
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to this degree of open-endedness. Those
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who find uncertainty challenging, whether in relation
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to ourselves or society more generally, will
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find this picture unappealing. While
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wandering without a destination might be an enjoyable way
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to spend a day or two now and then,
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could we live this way most of the time
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or across our whole lives? Is
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it possible for us to have a general
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idea of a good life without planning to
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attain specific targets related to that idea or
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ideal? Perhaps that is
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too extreme an understanding of this philosophical approach.
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The idea of Dao as an open-ended
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journey need not be understood as a
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recommendation to have absolute freedom in all
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our undertakings. Daoist philosophy
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does not exclude walking along the paths that
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others have recommended to us or traveling along
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them part of the way. Maybe
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the reason I'm walking in this neighborhood is that my
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friend mentioned it is a nice place for a stroll.
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And maybe the reason I choose to listen to
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this particular podcast is that my friend has impeccably
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good taste and has recommended it to me. But
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equally, Daoism focuses on looking for opportunities
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to veer from the paths made by
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others. Then too, while
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an aimless walk offers limitless opportunities, in practical
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terms the decisions we make are based on
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our interests and our dispositions, as well as
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what is available to us at a particular
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point in time. The
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Xiong's idea of wandering is beautifully captured
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in the image of a giant bird
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who flies thousands of miles up in
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the sky and across vast oceans. Yet
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the giant bird cannot take flight, unless its
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wings are supported by considerable winds, just as
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a large boat can be held up only
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by a great deal of water. Just
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so, a journey without a map or a goal
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is not a journey without constraints. If
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I'm on that walk and think it might be nice
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to pop into a museum, I may find that it's
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past closing time, and to be human is
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to be subject to such constraints. In
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wandering, we engage our abilities. abilities to
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grasp opportunities as they arise while knowing
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that that ability has limits. Our
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bodily forms, our capacities, and our
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interdependencies constrain or enable us differently
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in different contexts. Tall
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people may reach higher cupboards more easily, but are
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more likely to bump their heads on a lower
12:16
door frame, not that Karen or I would ever
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have this problem. In
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some, the activity of wandering is not
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entirely arbitrary. In wandering, we
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become more attuned to the world with respect
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to our own capacities and limitations as we
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engage with that world. Openness
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to the world as it unfolds is at
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the center of Taoist philosophy. When
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we embody the Taoist Tao, we engage
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optimally with the world. The
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passage in the Tao De Qing says, a
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journey of a thousand li starts under one
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foot. The passage speaks of
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our actions in a world that is a
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happening place. It prompts us to think
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about how we engage with the world. In
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Chinese philosophy, there is a third meaning of
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Tao. It is closely related to the two
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we've already encountered. Tao is a destination and
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Tao is an open-ended journey. Here,
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Tao refers to a message to achieve a
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goal, be it a teaching or a doctrine
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or an endorsed set of practices. The
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Confucian tradition, for one, emphasizes that exemplary
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people are models for others. Tang
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Tzu himself, of course, served that function for his
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students and for readers of the many stories about
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him. As with
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the first two meanings of Tao, Tao in this
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third sense was used in different ways in the
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Chinese tradition. For example, the
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Confucian Tao or teaching placed great
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value on rituals and their correct
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performance. By contrast, the
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Moists, named after their founder, Mo
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Tzu, believed that traditional rituals were
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a waste of time and resources.
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The Moist Tao was guided by a
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doctrine that of acting on the basis
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of inclusive care so as to maximize
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benefit for everyone. Both
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Moists and Confucian Dao's incorporated methods to
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attain their respective aims, and the Taoists
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were leery of any general set of
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prescriptions, either for goals or a method.
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to be followed by everyone. Thinking
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about Dao as a method or approach
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also brings to mind the range of
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arguments and methods of persuasion early Chinese
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thinkers used to put their ideas across.
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These include the use of
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metaphors, imagery, illustrations, precedents, and
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analogies. In this series,
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we will of course be discussing philosophical ideas,
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but we will also consider how these thinkers
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made a case for those ideas. In
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many of the texts, we will find little
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in the way of explicit argument or valid
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demonstration of lots in the way of metaphors,
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illustrations, analogies, or imagery. Frequently,
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one has the sense that the reader is being
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invited to think along with the authors. Let's
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look at a couple of cases of the reasoning
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strategies used by early Chinese thinkers. To
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exemplify the use of imagery, we'll take another
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passage from the trongzi, in fact
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another one involving a bird. This
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is the story of a high official who honored
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a bird by taking it in his chariot for
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a temple visit. The bird
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was presented with a banquet of meat and wine
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as part of a sacrificial ritual that involved killing
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an ox, a sheep, a pig. The
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poor bird then died within three days. This
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imagery is meant to convey something we
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just mentioned, the trongzis, criticism of society's
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promotion of a single set of ideals.
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Even if well-intentioned, the effort to
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enrich human lives by promoting a
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singular Dao impoverishes humanity. The
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way the bird is fussed over is ridiculous,
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a vivid example to show the coercive nature
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of these single ideal projects. Many
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texts also use illustrations to support their
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claims. Some of these are anecdotal,
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that is they refer to an incident in the
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past as an example of an action or a
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disposition that should be emulated, or one that should
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be avoided. In the
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Confucian text, the mongzi, there's a
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sage-king, Xun, who is respected for
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showing filial devotion to his parents.
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In fact, Xun's parents and half-brother attempted to kill
15:53
him by getting him to repair a well and
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then shutting him in it. The
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mongzi uses this anecdote to illustrate Shun's
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filiality and his virtue as he remained
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devoted to them. Now,
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it's far from clear that this really happened, but that
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isn't really the point. Often
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anecdotes serve to enhance the visibility or
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accessibility of the point being made. It's
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not unlike the telling of a joke,
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which might slip in elements familiar to
16:18
its intended audience. There's a flip side to
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this, of course. If the intended audience does not
16:22
share the comedian's reference points, they will fail to
16:24
understand the joke, a phenomenon that will
16:26
be painfully familiar to any middle-aged academic who
16:28
has tried to teach students who are 20
16:30
years younger. And this is a
16:32
problem Karen and I definitely have experienced. There
16:36
is potentially more to the use of
16:38
anecdotes as well in early Chinese texts.
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They also implicitly demonstrate the author's familiarity
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with existing motifs, and thereby
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help to establish his authority, particularly his
16:47
membership of an in-group. Needless
16:49
to say, adding this information does not make
16:51
us any more likely to agree with the
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philosophical point being made. However, it does
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help us better understand the methods of persuasion and
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the uses of argument in early China. It's
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appropriate that we have spent so much of this
17:04
first episode talking about the meaning of a single
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word, Dao, because something else that was of great
17:08
concern in early Chinese philosophy was language and the
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difficulty of using it well. It
17:12
should be evident from everything we've said that
17:14
one common English translation, wei, is
17:17
not entirely misleading, yet also falls well
17:19
short of expressing its full range of
17:21
meaning. For Dao is not
17:23
simply a concept to be understood, it
17:25
incorporates activity of traveling along the way.
17:29
How we do so by following or
17:31
engaging or challenging or creating our Dao's.
17:34
Moreover the idea of Dao, whether as expressing
17:36
a vision of how life should be, or
17:38
as a doctrine or practice, or in rejecting
17:41
the imposition of any one model of life
17:43
for all, needs to be communicated. Indeed,
17:46
we noted that for the Daoists, Dao
17:48
is ineffable. It cannot be captured or
17:50
expressed in words at all. What
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then is the force of words? We
17:54
rely heavily on language for so many of our
17:56
activities. Indeed life would be unthinkable
17:59
without language. Through the language we
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think about and communicate our intentions and
18:03
preferences, develop and work on projects together,
18:05
and express our agreement or disagreement with
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others, and much more. The
18:10
aforementioned group of thinkers known as the MOISTS
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believe that language is an irreducible part of
18:14
the infrastructure of the human world. Used
18:17
and harnessed well, it had the capacity to
18:19
bring order to life and, of course, to
18:21
be more productive. However,
18:24
the task of ensuring that language both
18:26
captures what is in the world and
18:28
appropriately conveys our projects and goals is
18:31
immensely complicated. The MOISTS
18:33
canons, MOZHING, articulate the difficulty
18:35
of getting language to fulfill
18:37
these functions, and as we've
18:39
already learned to expect, does so with an example.
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Suppose we are trying to differentiate Oxen from
18:45
horses. What do we pick as
18:47
the distinguishing features of each? The
18:49
canons speak against arbitrarily picking any feature,
18:51
such as Oxen having teeth and horses
18:54
having tails, to distinguish the two. The
18:57
MOISTS concern was not merely to settle disagreements
18:59
about the features of Oxen and horses, of
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course. Rather, they sought to ascertain
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how it might be possible to ensure that
19:06
words are used reliably. Their
19:08
project to determine the connection between words and
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the things in the world the word picks
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out exposes some intractable problems in our use
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of language. Whereas language
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seeks to establish determinate meanings, our lives
19:19
are constantly on the move. On
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the one hand, language facilitates our life together,
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allowing us to flourish. On the
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other, it draws us into familiar and ingrained ways
19:28
of life. This
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is a topic we'll discuss more deeply in due course,
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but not yet. In the
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next episode, we will be focusing on
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another factor that contributes to the inexactness
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of language, the inevitability of change. As
19:42
much as we wish to remain on the same
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path while the going is good, many events are
19:47
beyond our control. We need to
19:49
respond, adapt, and move on. Change
19:51
requires us sometimes to rethink our DAOs or
19:53
to develop new ones. As you
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are even now in the process of developing the
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