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The History Channel Original Podcast.
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History
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this week,
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September eight, nineteen sixty
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six.
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I'm Sally Helm.
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Captain's law,
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star date fifteen thirteen point one.
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For the first time, the
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starship enterprise appears
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on screen. And almost half
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of all the TVs that are on
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in the US in that moment are tuned
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in. It
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is the premiere of a new futuristic
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TV show.
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Star Trek. On board the enterprise,
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mister Spok temporarily in
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command.
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Captain Kirk and the ship's Chief Medical
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Officer, doctor McCoy, being
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down to the surface of planet m
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one hundred and thirteen. Their
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bodies rematerialize in front
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of a set that is pretty obviously
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fake. The idea of
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beaming down is now iconic Even
1:00
if you've never seen Star Trek, you might have said the
1:02
phrase, be me up, Scotty. And
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if you have seen Star Trek, you might know that this is
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a famous misquotation. But
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this beaming down effect was born
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of necessity. It was too complicated in
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nineteen sixty six to show the enterprise
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actually landing on distant planets
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And the whole concept of Star Trek is that Captain
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Kirk and his crew will be visiting distant planets
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all the time. So the show came up
1:24
with a workaround. The actors
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dematerialize on the enterprise and
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rematerialize wherever they need to go.
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Like, teleporting. On screen,
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on planet m one hundred and thirteen.
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Their bodies shimmer for a moment
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and then appear. the effect is
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actually made using, among other things,
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a high intensity light and
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falling aluminum dust. On
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this new planet, doctor McCoy
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is set to examine some patients. One
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of them is his old lover, Nancy
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Crater. When McCoy finally
1:57
gets to do the examination, The futuristic
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instruments that he's using are actually
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a pair of weird looking salt
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shakers. The props department bought
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them to be used onboard the enterprise
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as the salt shakers of the future, but
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Star Trek's creator Jean Rodenberry thought
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they'd be better used as surgical instruments.
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They look that weird. He finds
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different salt joker, a more regular looking
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glass one, to use onboard the
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ship.
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Salt will in fact become
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a key plot element in this first
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episode of Star Trek.
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the
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salt hemp.
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I'll take care of the provisioning,
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Nancy.
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Doctor McCoy's old lover seems
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to be strangely obsessed with
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salt. but all that
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is to come. Before the opening
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credits, all we know is that
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something strange is going on with an Nancy
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crater. and that the world
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of Star Trek is set to be something
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entirely
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new. Space.
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final frontier. These
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are the voyages of distortion enterprise.
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Today, A TV show tries.
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To boldly go where no man
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has gone before.
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Why did NBC take a chance
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on a creator had already once
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gotten them in trouble with none other
3:21
than the US military. And
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how did Star Trek push the boundaries of TV
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in this galaxy.
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David a Goodman is
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a television writer. and a major
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trekking.
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Or trekker? I think there
3:48
was a general acknowledgment that
3:50
if you weren't a star trek fan, you call
3:52
them trekking's but that if you
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were a Star Trek fan, you referred to
3:56
yourself as a trucker.
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Oh, okay. And Tricky
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initially seemed to have two
4:02
Star Trek fans a derogatory smell
4:04
to it. Sort of like you guys are nerds
4:06
kind of thing. And we were anyway.
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so I have no
4:11
trouble being referred to as a Tricky.
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When Goodman was writing for the animated show
4:18
futurama. He reunited the
4:20
original cast of Star Trek and got
4:22
them to appear in an episode. That
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took him from regular fan to
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industry star trek expert.
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He later got hired as a writer on star
4:31
track enterprise and also wrote several
4:33
Star Trek books. He says his latest
4:36
show, The Oroville, is an homage to
4:38
the Star Trek
4:38
franchise. So I have
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written for Star Trek, written things
4:43
that are like Star Trek that make fun of
4:45
Star Trek. But at core, I
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am a very big Star Trek a fan.
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And you are also Julia Press's
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Uncle. Am I right? Producer Julia
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Press? Yes. I guess for a journalist
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to open this here, Yes.
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I am the uncle of the show's producer.
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Julia, who is listening? Hello, Julia. This is
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your uncle David. Hello?
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Hi, David. Yes. I need
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do it. That's what
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I call her niece Joy. It's weird and special.
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Goodman
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was first introduced to the Star Trek
5:13
series by his Uncle.
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My earliest memories is I found it scary.
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When I was very young, I walked in on
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my uncle Marvin. We lived in a two family
5:22
house, and my uncle was watching it.
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He said, Nephew David. Come watch this show
5:26
with me.
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Fair. Nephew David. Yes. You're forgiven.
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But eventually, I think I was
5:32
in six or six grade,
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and I had two cousins
5:37
named Michael. Both of them were
5:39
big star trek fans. and they both in
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their own weight introduced me to
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it. And there was something about the
5:45
storytelling. There was something about the creation of
5:47
this world and outer space in the future
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that hooked me and I
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haven't looked back.
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The creator of that world was a TV
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writer, late Goodman. Jean
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Rodenberry.
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He's become a legend. Goodman
6:04
has heard lots of lore about him over
6:06
the years. somebody
6:07
commented once all his
6:09
suit seemed to come with stains.
6:11
Yeah. He could put on a
6:13
new suit and he would immediately look begging
6:15
the shovel. when he pitched, he would
6:17
sort of mumble and speak under
6:19
his breath and sort of required other people to lean
6:22
forward, to listen to what he was saying.
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Red
6:24
and Mary had been a pilot in World War
6:26
two, survived a horrific crash.
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And when he came home, before he
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became that disheveled TV writer, He
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got a day job working as a policeman.
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There, he got assigned to be speech
6:38
writer for Los Angeles chief of police.
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Well,
6:41
during the nineteen fifties, when he was doing
6:43
this, a big show on the air was
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a cop show called Dragon. And
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the Premise of Dragon that was presenting
6:52
real police stories. Ladies
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and gentlemen, the story you're
6:56
about to see is true. the
6:58
names haven't changed to protect the innocent.
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And it became known among the LAPD
7:04
that the producer of Fignet would buy stories
7:06
from actual policeman. And
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this whole system developed
7:11
at the LAPD where a cop would
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say I was just involved
7:16
in this investigation. He'd
7:18
send some notes to Gene Rockbury in the public
7:20
affairs office. Jean Rodbury
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would type up the premise
7:24
of an episode, and Rodbury would split hundred
7:27
dollars with the
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cop who brought him the
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idea.
7:31
Oh, wow. It is kind of a training ground. He's
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writing sort of episode after
7:34
episode. Yeah. Exactly. And but
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he wasn't really writing scripts yet.
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He was just writing sort of these these premises.
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Soon, he starts writing full freelance
7:45
scripts for television. And in
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nineteen fifty six, as the Zane goes,
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he quits his
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day job,
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commits himself to TV writing full time.
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It goes pretty well. Within a few
7:56
years, he's managed to pitch and sell
7:59
his first series idea to NBC.
8:02
It's a show called The Luchanic. And
8:04
this was a modern day drama about
8:06
the peacetime military. And
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the show had
8:10
all the cooperation of The
8:12
Marines they provided uniforms and equipment
8:14
that they provided. The use of Camp Hedland
8:17
for free, and this obviously was very
8:19
attractive to the studio. MGM
8:21
produced it because it saved up a lot of money.
8:23
So everyone's happy with Ladenburg. Until
8:27
he writes an episode about racism in
8:29
the military.
8:29
I'm having a few problems with your
8:31
fiancee myself. They
8:34
concerned private Kevin's ethnic
8:37
background. Tellers in India was raised
8:39
at all. in the sixties. They never really
8:41
dealt honestly with any real issue.
8:43
And so the fact of
8:45
doing this really scared him to be see.
8:48
The Marines have pulled their support for the show,
8:50
and NBC wasn't
8:52
going to enter the episode.
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Rodinbury doesn't like that one
8:56
bit.
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but his bosses have spoken. So
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he goes around his bosses and knocks
9:02
on the door of the NAACP. He
9:05
asked them to put pressure on NBC
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to air the episode.
9:08
To go to an outside person and
9:10
get them to pressure his own network
9:12
to air his own show, their show,
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and make them look bad. Some
9:17
might say that was brave. Others might
9:19
say that was foolish. So
9:22
that was apparently early on his career. show was
9:24
canceled. Okay. So he's
9:26
out of a job. He's out of a job. And he starts
9:28
sort of looking around for his
9:30
next job. and
9:32
he comes up with the premise
9:34
for Star Trek.
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Rodnery
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says that Star Trek will be kinda
9:41
like a very popular TV western,
9:43
wagon
9:44
train. wagon train was about
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this never ending
9:47
Wagon Train have covered Wagons going
9:49
from one place to another, and they never got
9:51
anywhere. So that was a way to
9:53
let the
9:54
Networks understand what the show was,
9:56
which was people on a
9:58
ship going from place
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to place. So it was
10:01
partly just a way to be like, this is familiar.
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like, this is something you've seen before.
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And similar to something
10:06
you consider to be a big success.
10:08
Sort of a classic sales pitch move, like,
10:10
every TV show is, like, it's this plus the
10:12
Absolutely right. We still do that. We
10:14
you call them comps. What's the comparison?
10:17
What's this show like, when you
10:19
do that, you wanna have a successful
10:22
show that your show is like.
10:24
Right. Of course.
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It's like this terrible show that bombed.
10:27
That's made
10:29
my mistake a number of times.
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Wagon Train may be what Rodenberry
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is talking about to executives, but
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he also has something else on his mind. Something
10:39
that harkens back to that controversial episode
10:42
of his old show, The Lieutenant.
10:43
He also wanted to disguise
10:47
Social issues talk about things like
10:49
religion and racism
10:51
and politics in
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the form of science fiction metaphor. so
10:56
that he perhaps could escape
10:59
the concern of
11:02
networks of pissing off groups that
11:04
that might be offended by dealing
11:06
with a a controversial scene. Right. So
11:08
he's like, okay. Put it in space and then I won't have this
11:10
problem that I have with the marines where they come in and
11:12
they're
11:12
mad about this because there's no it's like a made
11:14
up boy. Exactly. University of
11:16
North Dakota professor Michelle Sauer
11:19
told us, this strategy actually has
11:21
ancient predecessors. Like,
11:23
there was a popular genre of writing in the Middle
11:25
Ages
11:25
called The Mirror for Princes,
11:28
where medieval writers would
11:31
construct a not real or
11:33
a fictional narrative to
11:36
critique current politics. That
11:39
way they could avoid, I guess, being killed.
11:41
And Star Trek is sort of like that.
11:44
Sauer is a professor of English and gender
11:46
studies and just
11:47
a nerd in general by definitely
11:51
a trekking or a tracker.
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Late Goodman, she's been a fan since
11:54
she was a kit watching tapes in her family's
11:57
VCR. An old one where you loaded
11:59
the tapes in the
11:59
top actually like the thing in
12:01
Star Trek to shoot the phasers. This little thing
12:04
goes, it pops up at the top.
12:06
The original VCR look like that.
12:08
Saur is a fan first.
12:11
But that doesn't stop her from looking at Star
12:13
Trek with an academic's eye. She
12:15
even teaches it to her students. And
12:17
she said, Star Trek uses the techniques
12:20
of the mirror for princess. In
12:22
fact, it was conceived that way from
12:24
the start. Jean Rodenberry
12:26
writes in his original pitch, the time
12:29
is somewhere in the future. It could
12:31
be nineteen ninety
12:32
five, which was done in the future.
12:34
or maybe even twenty nine ninety
12:36
five. The people
12:38
would be totally recognizable, but
12:40
they'd be jetting around on spaceships. and
12:43
the themes would resonate with Ladenbury's
12:45
own time, the nineteen sixties.
12:48
Science fiction allows authors
12:51
and the audience that engages
12:53
with it to critique
12:55
leaders, to make
12:57
bold statements about what
12:59
the society is and where it is going
13:02
or where it could go if things aren't
13:04
changed.
13:07
So
13:07
that's what Ladenburg has in mind.
13:09
He pitches MGM on this wagon
13:11
train to the stars.
13:13
No dice. But
13:14
you know who is interested?
13:16
Lucille Ball. the star
13:18
of I Love Lucy and Lucy Show,
13:20
a savvy performer who's used her
13:22
fame to become a Hollywood power broker.
13:26
Ball runs her own production company, Desi
13:28
Lu. She's recently bought out her ex husband
13:30
Desi's share of business and is looking
13:33
for new shows to develop. and her
13:35
executives decide to buy this one.
13:37
Star Trek. Here's
13:38
David a Goodman again. The best
13:40
anecdote I ever heard about
13:43
Lucy's involvement with Star Trek
13:45
was her
13:46
exact Herb Solo was in a
13:48
a meeting with her and this was during the development
13:51
of Star Trek And Lucy
13:53
said, what's going on with that
13:56
USO show? Wait. Wait. What's the USO
13:58
for those Oh, I'm sorry. So the USO was
14:01
the performers who would go around and entertain
14:03
the troops and groups like
14:05
USO. Yeah. The one about the stars who were
14:07
traveling around So
14:08
she heard Star Trek and thought, ah,
14:11
the Stars Track
14:11
Now. Yeah. Like, Stars Like And she somehow
14:14
imagined Peron show, which I would
14:16
watch that show too. It's
14:19
like oh, no. No. No. Lucy, it's not about
14:21
DSO. It's about a spaceship. Desi
14:24
Lu pitches the spaceship show
14:26
to CBS. That's network that
14:28
airs Lucy's show. But
14:29
CBS isn't interested.
14:32
They
14:32
say they already have an outer space pilot in
14:34
development. And the execs
14:36
at Lucy's
14:37
company think, okay, we're gonna take
14:39
it to NBC. Now, Ron Barry did not have a
14:41
good relationship with NBC. He had
14:43
brought the NAACP down
14:45
on them on his last show. He publicly
14:47
complaining to the press about the cancellation of
14:50
lieutenant.
14:51
But
14:52
NBC
14:53
was very interested in getting in business
14:56
with Lucy. because it
14:57
kinda makes sense because CDS had seen such success.
14:59
Yeah. So they were like, we want a piece of something.
15:01
Lucy is
15:02
touching. Yeah. The idea that we could
15:04
be in business with Lucy and get her next
15:06
hit whatever it is that was
15:08
appealing to those executives.
15:09
So NBC says, go
15:11
ahead. Make a pilot. They
15:15
choose one of the episodes Rodbury had pitched.
15:17
It's called The Cage. The
15:20
studio says, you have eleven days
15:22
to film. Goodman told us that's
15:24
pretty standard for a pilot, but pilots
15:26
are not usually this ambitious.
15:28
Everything had to be
15:30
created from scratch. was like you were gonna get
15:32
military uniforms from the
15:35
cast of warehouse. You had to design
15:38
uniforms. You you couldn't use established
15:40
sets anywhere. You were gonna have to build
15:42
the spaceship sets, the kinds of special
15:45
effects that they were talking about doing had
15:47
never really been done on a weekly basis
15:50
on television.
15:50
What kinds of things like people
15:52
disappearing? Or I mean, even just
15:55
the spaceship flying through space. I mean,
15:57
there were television shows that did
15:59
that but not very
15:59
well as they've created new photographic
16:02
processes to do
16:04
the spaceship effects, the planet effects,
16:06
the phasor effects.
16:10
If a tracker were to watch that pilot
16:12
today, they wouldn't recognize much.
16:15
Nearly all the characters end up being played
16:17
by different actors. The key
16:20
exception is mister Spock,
16:22
the half human, half alien, played
16:24
by Leonard Niemoy. SPOC's
16:27
signature feature, his pointy ears,
16:29
give the makeup department a whole lot
16:31
of work before the pilot. They have to
16:33
use new rubber tips every day
16:36
because they're gluing them right to NIMO's ears
16:38
and can't figure out a way to reuse them.
16:41
And when the network execs
16:43
see their handiwork in the pilot? They
16:45
were very scared of the
16:47
mister Spok character. They were worried
16:50
that his satanic look with his
16:52
pointed ears would scare off
16:54
bible belt viewers. They
16:56
thought he was too demons. Too much like a demon.
16:58
Right? Okay.
16:59
The pilot goes over budget
17:01
and not a success with
17:03
the network. Wait.
17:05
So it's over budget. Over budget? It
17:07
flops. They don't love it. The NBC
17:09
execs think the episode is too heavy.
17:11
There's none of action, and the casting
17:13
is all wrong.
17:16
However,
17:16
The
17:17
one thing that the head of the network
17:19
that NBC really liked about the pilot
17:21
is he said, I've seen a lot of science
17:24
fiction. This is the first time I really
17:26
felt was on a spaceship. And
17:28
he really liked that. He really
17:30
thought that was worth continuing
17:33
to try to figure out
17:34
this show.
17:35
Wow. So they got another chance.
17:37
They did a second pilot. Wow. That
17:39
seems unusual. It it's happened, but it's
17:41
it's very unusual. but he felt
17:43
that there was something there. Wow.
17:45
So this is sort of like us, don't know, maybe
17:47
visionary's too strong a word, but a high up exec
17:49
who can kinda see it, who's like, Okay. It's not quite
17:51
there, but it's
17:52
gonna be And that's that's a really interesting
17:54
thing too, talking about today's television,
17:56
which is so driven by streamers and algorithms.
17:59
This was an individual guy who got to make
18:01
this decision based on his own gut. Mhmm.
18:04
And he was right. He was
18:06
right. He was right.
18:09
Pilot
18:11
number two is called where
18:13
no man has gone before.
18:15
In it, the star trek world is beginning
18:17
to look like the show you might know today.
18:20
Down to the crew aboard a spaceship, the
18:22
USS Enterprise. Let's start
18:24
with captain Kirk. Who is he? So in
18:26
the creation of the captain, Ron
18:29
Murray wanted to create a
18:31
character whose ancestors in the world
18:33
of Archer came from the old west. This
18:35
kind of character could fit in on any
18:37
western. And, actually, you can see William's other
18:40
the actor play him on a lot of westerns
18:42
in the sixties, so he really did fit
18:44
into that world. He's he's
18:46
an American hero, but
18:49
he was flawed. he could lose
18:51
his temper and then admit, he was wrong.
18:54
Look around that bridge. I
18:56
see the men waiting for me to make the next
18:59
move.
19:00
two bones.
19:04
What
19:04
if I'm wrong?
19:06
He could get scared. He was
19:08
lonely. Okay,
19:09
Dr. McCoy, tell me about him.
19:10
So Dr. McCoy is the country
19:13
doctor. He's not as comfortable with
19:15
the technology of the future. And there
19:18
you have a museum based doctor. Lens
19:20
type, manually operated, light
19:22
activated, spare me the analysis
19:24
mister Spot, please. It's enough
19:26
that it works. He's providing
19:29
sort of a yin to spots yang
19:31
for Kirk.
19:32
Spock, Kirk's
19:34
second in command, the controversial pointy
19:37
ear demonic half alien from the planet
19:39
Vulcan. NBC had
19:41
begged the creators to cut him.
19:43
But to the credit of the
19:45
guys at Desjardins, Ron Barry, they
19:47
said we're not losing spot.
19:49
If anything, the second pilot gives
19:51
SPOC
19:52
more importance, more depth.
19:54
They really got more into the
19:56
backstory of vulkins
19:59
having this
19:59
philosophy of logic. Mhmm. That
20:02
to me is beautiful in its inception.
20:04
This idea of a world that
20:06
follows logic. Wouldn't that be nice here?
20:09
Spot Catons. My trust all has gone
20:11
well.
20:11
Spot, are you alive? An illogical
20:14
question, doctor. since obviously you are
20:16
hearing my voice. My favorite
20:18
character was always mister Spock,
20:21
not because of the law Although, I suppose
20:23
I have been accused being pretty logical, being
20:26
a professor. Michelle Sauber again.
20:28
But because he is, you know, half
20:30
and half half milk and half human.
20:32
And I myself mixed race, half and
20:35
half equally. So I found that appealing.
20:37
Light Kirk, Spock is complicated.
20:40
He's trying to straddle two worlds, human
20:42
and alien, and makes sense of
20:44
himself as a mix of them both. For
20:47
a long time, Spok is the only
20:49
Vulcan that the audience meets. To
20:51
Goodman, that's part of what makes the care are
20:53
so amazing. He gestures at
20:56
an entire unknown culture
20:58
and makes us see it clearly.
20:59
We believe as an audience that there's
21:01
a planet of these people, and it's all because
21:03
of how this character is written and performed.
21:08
The actors that fill out the rest of the cast
21:10
are notably diverse. And
21:12
actually, that diversity was something
21:14
that NBC was very happy
21:16
about. I've read memos where they were
21:19
really encouraging of that. They certainly
21:21
understood that having a show that
21:23
was more reflective of the population
21:25
brings you more audience.
21:26
George McKay, a Japanese American
21:29
actor, plays Hulu, a physicist aboard
21:31
the ship. Michelle Nichols, a black
21:33
woman who had peered in that controversial episode
21:35
of Ladenbury's first show, Lieutenant, is
21:38
playing a communications officer. She
21:40
is a black woman who was
21:42
cast as a main character in a major
21:44
television show. She wasn't a
21:47
maid, she wasn't subservient,
21:48
she wasn't anything like that. In
21:50
fact, She was black and served in
21:52
an equal capacity as a starfleet
21:55
officer
21:56
with a crew that was
21:58
More male than female.
22:00
I'm afraid you have it all wrongness
22:02
to spark all of you. I've
22:04
been monitoring some of their old style
22:06
radio waves. That
22:07
was a big deal in the sixties.
22:12
After that second pilot,
22:14
even with Fox pointy ears prominently
22:16
featured NBC gives the show the
22:18
green light. The
22:20
team has about six months to get everything
22:22
together before the first episode premieres.
22:25
David A Goodman told us, the crew
22:27
has their work cut out for them. Creating
22:29
a science fiction universe with nineteen
22:31
sixties on a budget was
22:33
difficult. And some things
22:35
were more successful than
22:38
others. There's an episode early on where
22:41
we're in sort of the botany
22:43
room of of the enterprise. And
22:45
there's this plant that's making noise.
22:48
and it's very clear that the plant
22:50
is a decorated, gloved
22:53
hand. Yeah. And it's not very well
22:55
done at all. It's terrible.
22:56
decorated like painted
22:58
green or like It's
22:59
sort of a flower and it's got petals
23:01
and it's moving around and initially when it's
23:03
moving around, you can't tell what it is, but then there's
23:06
a move that it makes. It's like Oh, wait, that's a
23:08
thumb. There's
23:10
a creature in an episode where
23:12
they're they're testing the trans porter,
23:15
and it's clearly a dog with like a
23:17
plastic horn stuck to them for it.
23:19
On the flip side of it, there's this episode
23:21
involving a rock, come on And
23:25
it was sort of a decorated, like
23:27
rug that was thrown over a
23:29
guy. He moves across the floor but
23:32
it is so effective because
23:34
of sound effects and the music
23:37
that's added.
23:42
that it really looks pretty good, and it looks
23:44
pretty scary. It's fun. It sounds
23:46
like it would be fun to be in my room figuring
23:48
out, like, okay, we had a rock. How are we gonna How
23:51
are you? That to me is it's
23:53
based to sort of the creativity of
23:55
the artisans who were involved in
23:57
making the show was that they really cared about
23:59
and they really tried to do something
24:02
good and believable.
24:07
just a month before the first episode
24:09
is set to air. One of the show's producers
24:11
sends Ladenbury a memo telling him
24:13
it is important that you compose without
24:15
delay. our standard opening
24:18
narration. So he sits down
24:20
and comes up with that now famous intro.
24:23
Space, a final frontier.
24:26
Rodenburg seems to be speaking right
24:28
to his audience, a country
24:30
wrapped up in the space race between the US
24:32
and the Soviet Union. And
24:34
in fact, there's a private joke in the opening
24:36
of Star Trek.
24:37
It's five year mission to explore
24:40
strange new worlds. the enterprise
24:42
has a five year mission. That's Ron
24:44
Barry saying, I want this show to be on five years
24:46
because if it goes to syndication, I'll be rich.
24:48
On
24:50
September eight, nineteen sixty
24:53
six, audiences see
24:55
the first flight of the Starship Enterprise.
24:58
And pretty quickly, they like what they
25:01
see. As did Michelle Sauber watching
25:03
the show years later, when it did go into syndication,
25:05
as Runbury had hoped, I did love
25:08
it right away for having
25:10
Spok be a hybrid character just
25:12
like me and having women in
25:15
starfleet just like me. Sauer
25:17
told us that black female officer
25:19
lieutenant Ujura is a particularly
25:22
big deal. But apparently, at
25:24
the end of the first season, Nichols, the
25:26
actress who plays Aurora, is
25:28
considering leaving the show. What
25:31
she really wanted was to pursue a career
25:33
on Broadway. So
25:34
she's weighing her options when one day she's
25:36
at a fundraiser. And she hears that
25:38
a big fan once doctor her.
25:40
And it turned
25:41
out to be doctor Barton Luther King
25:43
junior.
25:43
Apparently, doctor King
25:45
was trekhy
25:46
or a tracker. Michelle
25:48
has sold the message and I worked with her
25:50
once and she told it to me that he
25:52
said to her, you can't leave
25:56
you being there is a message to
25:58
so many people out there
25:59
that were a part of the future.
26:02
Don't you understand what you've achieved? In
26:04
fact, this is the only TV
26:06
show that Correta and
26:08
I allow our little children to stay up
26:10
and watch. And it's all because
26:13
of you you have been
26:14
chosen to show the world
26:17
what we can do. And, I mean, she
26:19
was stunned speechless. And
26:21
that obviously in the late sixties, that was
26:23
a meaningful thing for her to peer
26:26
and she stayed with the show.
26:28
This isn't the first or
26:30
last time Star Trek packs a punch
26:32
beyond its galaxy. Space
26:35
is endless, so you wouldn't think there'd be boundaries.
26:37
but Jean Rodenberry will
26:39
keep
26:39
finding them and pushing them
26:41
further.
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From its inception, Star
27:52
Trek tried to engage with social
27:54
issues. using that sneaky, medieval
27:57
technique of in direction along
27:59
with a diverse cast
27:59
and well crafted scripts.
28:02
According
28:02
to one of the show's producers, They'd actually
28:04
sometimes leave expletives in the scripts
28:06
as low hanging fruit for broadcast
28:08
standards
28:08
to remove, so
28:10
that they could keep more controversial subject
28:12
matter. In the show's third
28:14
season, Michelle Nichols, who
28:16
stayed after her pep talk from doctor King,
28:18
stars in an episode with William Shatner,
28:20
Captain Kirk. It goes down in TV
28:23
history. It's called Plato's stepchildren.
28:28
Plato's stepchildren is a fascinating
28:31
episode A lot of people would say it's not a
28:33
very good episode, but it is
28:35
famous for having
28:37
the first interracial kiss on TV.
28:40
Now if we're gonna be absolutely real,
28:42
it's not the first interracial kiss on
28:44
TV.
28:44
Michelle Sauer told us Lucille Ball
28:46
had kissed her Cuban husband, Desi, on
28:49
TV. There had been other interracial
28:51
kisses too, like when between Nancy Sonatra
28:53
and Sammy Davis junior. But
28:55
what makes a special is the first ever
28:58
kiss
28:58
between series regulars.
29:01
These are characters you know and love. They're main
29:03
characters,
29:04
so it is making a statement.
29:06
And it's an extra powerful statement
29:08
because of the
29:09
timing. It's being aired
29:11
pretty much almost precisely a year
29:14
after loving versus Virginia.
29:16
Loving versus Virginia is the supreme court
29:18
decision that legal eyes interracial marriage.
29:21
And to say the least, not every American is
29:23
happy about that. So the kiss
29:25
might be seen by some viewers as a pop location.
29:28
The writers know this, but
29:30
they frame it in a way that somewhat softens
29:33
the impact. Kirk and Hurrah
29:36
don't kiss because want
29:38
to or because there's romantic
29:40
attraction. Rather, they're
29:42
under alien control.
29:44
So just like those medieval writers who
29:47
say, I'm just writing about theoretical prints,
29:49
not the actual ruler. Those Star Trek
29:51
writers can say, This isn't a black
29:53
woman and a white man kissing. It's
29:55
aliens
29:56
making these two
29:57
bodies kiss. Even
29:59
so,
29:59
Some stations in the south at
30:02
least
30:02
originally refused to air it.
30:04
Some of them, I guess, went to commercial
30:06
early or some But Nichols herself
30:09
says
30:09
that it was one of the episodes that
30:11
got the
30:12
most fan mail.
30:17
A
30:17
few episodes later, the series tackles
30:19
racism again in an episode called
30:22
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.
30:24
It's
30:24
pretty overt.
30:25
Kirk meets two alien species
30:28
that have been at
30:28
war for centuries.
30:30
At one point, Kirk is
30:32
like you're the same people. I don't
30:35
understand. Nothing about you seems
30:37
different to me. And the response
30:39
by the alien is, well, I'm black
30:41
on the right side and
30:43
white of the left side and he is
30:45
black
30:46
on the left side and white of
30:48
the right side. Other episodes in
30:50
the original series cover economic inequality,
30:53
environmental pollution. Sauer
30:55
told us they don't all come down on the left leaning
30:57
side of an issue. For instance,
30:59
there's an episode called a private little
31:01
war. Do you remember the twentieth century
31:03
brush wars on the Asian continent? a
31:06
very clear connection to Vietnam.
31:09
The only solution
31:11
is what happened
31:13
back then. Bradbury rewrites
31:16
the script and turns private little
31:18
more from being a
31:20
critic to a reluctant
31:22
justification. of the Vietnam
31:24
War.
31:27
Ladenbury is a complicated person,
31:29
much like the characters he created.
31:32
He made women leaders on the enterprise
31:34
but dressed them in little mini skirts. And
31:37
though the show had an overt anti
31:39
bigotry message, Sauer told us
31:41
Some bigotry snuck in there anyway. Big
31:43
spot, the half human, half falcon.
31:46
He calls himself
31:47
the offensive term, half breed
31:49
off and on throughout the series there's
31:51
a lot of bigotry that is
31:54
tolerated in forms of
31:56
teasing about his green
31:58
bloodedness or his coldness.
32:00
mocking his
32:01
Vulcan heritage. So
32:04
there you there's there's complicated relationships.
32:07
Right? There's all these messages
32:09
of don't
32:10
be bigoted, don't hate based
32:12
on appearance, don't
32:14
start wars that, you know,
32:16
are unnecessary. But
32:18
there are disturbing undercurrents,
32:20
and I think it's just as complicated as
32:23
real life. But
32:24
the shows goal of presenting an optimistic
32:26
vision of a world without prejudice, that
32:29
has outlived Radembury himself. The
32:31
original series ends after three seasons.
32:34
But the show has continued. In
32:36
reruns and remakes,sequels and
32:39
sequels up to the present day.
32:41
There are so many new star trek that respond
32:43
to the current times. It grows
32:45
and changes with the world. I think that is part
32:48
of at least of the reason that Star Trek can kinda
32:50
always be there. In the eighties, When mental
32:52
health becomes a prominent topic of conversation,
32:54
there are characters who suffer from depression.
32:57
In the nineties, a new female character
33:00
makes elite from supporting to leading
33:02
role as captain of her own spaceship.
33:05
And the latest iterations
33:07
of the series
33:08
have trans and non
33:10
binary characters and open
33:12
gay
33:13
relationships as they should because
33:15
our society is more open and accepting.
33:21
The
33:21
show's latest iteration, Star Trek:
33:23
Discovery, even imagines a world
33:26
in which planet Earth could have a black
33:28
woman as president. She's played
33:30
by Georgia politician Stacey
33:31
Abrams. United Earth is
33:33
ready right now to rejoin
33:36
the Federation. And
33:37
that optimistic world of Star Trek has
33:39
spilled off the screen. In
33:41
the seventies, actor Michelle Nichols
33:43
worked with NASA to recruit diverse
33:45
groups of astronauts. Now the shuttle
33:48
will be taking scientists and
33:50
engineers, men and women of all
33:52
races
33:53
into space
33:53
just like the astronaut crew
33:55
on the starship in the car. The
33:58
year after her campaign, Sally Ride,
34:00
the first American woman in space, and
34:02
Guy and Stuart Blueford Junior, the first
34:05
black American in space, apply
34:07
and join the program. When Nichols
34:09
dies at age eighty nine, in July twenty
34:11
twenty two, heart felt tributes
34:13
pouring from the many people she inspired. And
34:17
one trickies slash trucker even
34:19
makes it to the Oval Office. That
34:21
would be president Barack Obama.
34:23
It didn't matter that the special effects were kind
34:25
of cheesy and bad. Right? It
34:27
was really talking about a
34:30
notion of a common humanity.
34:33
and
34:34
a confidence in our
34:37
ability to solve problems.
34:39
For many people, like Sauer and Goodman,
34:42
Star Trek is in a face. It's
34:44
a life long love.
34:45
I
34:47
ask Goodman why it stuck with him
34:49
so long. Yeah. I mean, what was it? Can
34:51
you describe it at all? I know it's just a feeling and
34:54
sort of a that's what love is.
34:55
But what it well, like, So, yeah,
34:57
if you could describe it, what was it about? wanna
35:00
know what love it. I I
35:02
That's no question. I
35:04
think that Star Trek is a wish
35:06
fulfilling, has subtle themes
35:09
of acceptance that
35:11
the world is going to better that
35:12
most famous character
35:14
on the show
35:16
is an ultimate nerd, and
35:18
the jock is his best friend.
35:21
that might have an interest to me,
35:23
but it's interesting too that sort of
35:25
gets lost in this discussion
35:27
about Star Trek and rabbit Star Trek
35:29
fans like me and
35:31
his Star Trek was very
35:34
popular with everybody.
35:36
It was on seven nights a week in
35:38
York in the nineteen seventies when I was growing up.
35:40
That audience watching it was not just
35:43
Rabbit Star Trek fans. It was a show
35:45
that watched and lost and lots
35:47
of people who didn't think about
35:49
it after the hour was over, really
35:51
enjoyed because it was also really
35:53
well made entertainment. If you
35:55
go and watch other television shows from period,
35:58
nothing comes close in
36:00
terms of the technical
36:03
achievement, the writing, the depth
36:05
of character, and like I'm a
36:07
great piece of fiction. It
36:09
created a world that the audience
36:12
could have a communal experience chair.
36:18
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36:43
and Michelle Sauber. Goodman's latest
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on Paramount Plus. Sauer is the author
36:49
of gender and medieval culture. This
36:52
episode was produced by Julia Press.
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36:54
was story edited by Jim O'Grady
36:56
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