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number one series on today's

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show thirty five years ago

1:56

this month in july of nineteen

1:59

eighty seven the hot one hundred

2:01

was awash in pulsating

2:03

synthesizers and pinging

2:05

rhythms in the early

2:07

eighties you might have expected

2:09

these electronics musical tools

2:12

to be wielded by such m t

2:14

v synth pop gods as

2:17

duran duran or press

2:19

but in the second half of that

2:22

decade they were most effectively

2:24

deployed by acts crossing

2:26

over from the world's of urban

2:29

club the music hip hop and

2:31

especially latin dance

2:33

led by miami burrow group

2:35

trio exposing

2:45

jose more in the top five

2:47

that summer with point of

2:49

no return but they

2:51

were not alone a cornucopia

2:54

of similar acts many

2:56

female lead more all

2:58

over the hot one hundred their

3:01

angular beats and yearning

3:03

vocals formed a new sub

3:06

genre identified by dj

3:08

is and club tastemakers as

3:11

freestyle emerging

3:21

from the clubs and radio stations

3:23

in miami and new york freestyle

3:27

was a hybrid genre that

3:29

combines the dance rhythms of post

3:31

disco and electro with

3:42

the florida romantic yearnings

3:45

of eighties latin club

3:57

the man was doing singing

3:59

freeze

3:59

it was a fundamentally

4:02

romantic genre the beats

4:04

were frenetic the lyrics

4:06

in

4:16

style caught lightning in about

4:19

creating stars and generating

4:21

sits that crossed over at

4:23

top forty radio some

4:25

artists who went on to mainstream

4:27

pop success got their start

4:30

with fleas style

4:42

you could even argue

4:45

that the biggest female pop star

4:47

of the entire nation ages

4:49

broke

4:50

thanks in part to freeze

5:02

and soon artists

5:04

from the world's of new wave rock

5:07

and british synth pop

5:08

we're seeking out freestyle producers

5:12

to fresh

5:25

of freestyle billboard

5:27

magazine even gave the music

5:29

more or less it's own

5:31

charged

5:39

but on the main stream

5:41

shots the frustration

5:43

for freestyle was that to

5:46

go all the way to the top of

5:48

the hot one hundred the music

5:50

had to get a loss soft

6:09

even monsieur

6:18

that in clubs and

6:20

on the radio the energetic

6:22

rhythms of freestyle carried

6:25

into the nineties and

6:38

today on hit parade he will

6:40

attempt to define the eighties dance

6:42

many genre that bridged the

6:44

disco era into the

6:46

house euro a ,

6:49

so bespoke they had

6:51

to call it freestyle and

6:54

explain how we traveled from

6:56

lisa traveled who

7:07

to me think how much

7:14

one more try

7:17

them it's whether they were swooning

7:19

or cruising freestyle

7:21

got a lot of people move

7:24

in the eighties but no

7:26

track got more people to

7:28

the floor then floor then that

7:30

dance historians say started

7:33

it all on the charts freestyles

7:36

big bang know

7:48

that's where your hit parade marches

7:51

today the week ending february

7:53

twenty fifth nineteen eighty four

7:56

when let the music playing

7:58

by salmon his peak

8:00

of number eight on billboard

8:03

hot one hundred by ,

8:05

way to eight spots higher than

8:07

even madonna and gotten

8:09

to that date how did

8:11

this hop one hit wonder

8:13

shannon would never return

8:15

to the american top forty managed

8:19

to get managed jump on sound

8:21

of eighties dance and

8:23

start a musical movements

8:26

the beat the lyrics the

8:28

since the production all

8:31

was it mattered and it

8:33

changed the game for dance pop

8:35

for the next decade you

8:37

might say we started dancing

8:40

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sixty one the surrounds

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with they are recording of the carole

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king jerry golf and classic will

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you love me some more the

11:36

, seemingly innocent

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adult subjects for its day

11:43

whether sleeping with the object

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of ones section will leave

11:48

a girl heartbroken by morning

11:51

it was about the most oh verse

11:53

a song about sex and

11:55

female agency could

11:57

be in the early sixties

12:07

now less flash ahead

12:09

about a quarter century and

12:12

consider this song on

12:14

the scene subject

12:24

lisa and com jan nineteen

12:27

eighty five his i wonder

12:29

if i taking home a

12:31

quintessential example of the freestyle

12:33

movement we're going to discuss

12:36

in this episode is

12:38

about bluntly about teen

12:40

girls fretting over whether she should

12:42

sleep with the boys she's days

12:54

about forty to fifty percent

12:56

more explicit then will

12:58

you love me tomorrow though

13:00

lisa lisa song has no

13:02

curses and very little

13:05

actual sex talk but

13:07

there's far less obfuscation

13:10

of what the song is about then

13:12

there was on the show rails hit

13:15

moreover the pulsating

13:17

one ties backing tracks could

13:20

is sounds less like the swirling

13:22

orchestration of the shelves

13:24

classic but the topic

13:26

of i wonder if i take you home

13:29

more to the point the yearning in

13:31

this young woman's dilemma it's

13:34

precisely the same

13:36

for how about this girl

13:38

group classic martha and vandalise

13:41

nineteen sixty three hits

13:53

in this most town just not

13:56

martha reeves sings about

13:58

a passion that are

13:59

really overcomes her an

14:02

uncontrollable burning

14:04

when ever the object of her desire

14:07

so much as calls her nice

14:09

at one point reeves even

14:12

diagnosis herself with high

14:14

blood pressure as the

14:16

detroit trios harmonies builds

14:19

to a crescendo this illness

14:22

this love the river feels

14:24

like an addict

14:38

two and a half decades later

14:40

the bronx new york trio

14:42

sweet sensation knew

14:45

a thing or two about addiction

14:54

sensation i eighty seven

14:57

hit on you is

14:59

about an hour her

15:02

right woman betty lou ross

15:04

self diagnosis as insane

15:07

and sings about an uncontrollable

15:11

again , with the sixties

15:13

hit hooked on you was

15:15

made on a shoestring is

15:17

backing track largely built out

15:20

of sequence but

15:22

for a younger generation this

15:25

younger generation over powering in lust

15:41

now i'm not

15:43

we're mean these eighties freestyle

15:45

examples are going to go down

15:48

as comparable pop classics

15:50

to their sixties forebears for

15:53

starters know lisa lisa

15:55

and sweet sensation single word

15:57

smaller chart shifts than the

15:59

sure wells and martha and the ban

16:01

delis hits worse my

16:03

only point is that every

16:06

generation will find the medium

16:08

to express universal

16:10

means desires and

16:13

doubts and if

16:15

you grew up in the eighties particularly

16:18

if you were a young woman like

16:21

say a teenage jennifer

16:23

lopez captured in this

16:25

twenty seven seen video singing

16:28

along in a car with a nineteen

16:30

eighty eight hit by latin freestyle

16:33

singer know well this

16:56

was your formative period then

16:59

freestyle might have been the music

17:01

that captured your heart and

17:03

expressed your lungs and

17:07

frankly the seeming simplicity

17:09

of the production was a

17:11

speech laws have club

17:17

the

17:22

freestyle tracks arrangements were

17:25

deceptively complex even

17:27

when they were built on off the

17:29

shelf first wave eighty

17:31

synthesizers that

17:33

sounds he's three style streets

17:36

immediacy that spoke

17:38

to a generation of hip hop

17:40

and pump sounds particularly

17:43

black and brown listeners

17:45

now to explain just

17:48

how freestyle blew up

17:50

we need to walk through some post

17:52

disco says

18:02

as we've noted in several

18:05

chef curry episodes disco

18:07

didn't really die after

18:10

the seventies rather it

18:12

morphed into a myriad

18:14

of captivating dance floor it

18:31

hi giorgio moreover a

18:33

shit late in the disco move

18:36

reaching number thirty three in

18:38

nineteen seventy nine was

18:40

an early example of these so called

18:43

it's hello disco genre the

18:46

italian born marauder whom

18:48

we discussed in depth in our

18:50

donna summer episode of hit parade

18:53

had already helped define the

18:55

future of dance music with

18:58

such donna classics donna classics

19:00

all synthesised i feel love

19:03

and with the lush throbbing

19:05

chase he was pointing one

19:08

direction disco my teeth

19:10

after it's commercial implosion

19:13

here was another

19:24

patrick how with whom

19:26

we discussed in our remix episode

19:29

was one of the forefathers of so

19:31

called high energy spells

19:34

colloquial he as h

19:36

i n r g at

19:39

the turn of the eighties high

19:41

energy was synthesized disco

19:44

reduced to with densest form

19:46

and spun up to a relentless

19:49

tamper with staccato rhythms

19:52

and pulsating baseline basically

19:55

it felt like dance music

19:57

as around

20:05

there's forms wife

20:07

is how and high energy

20:09

became swept up in the larger

20:11

eighties dance culture known as

20:14

post and disco this

20:16

was mostly club music

20:19

but what was interesting was

20:21

how these posts disco forms

20:23

were adopted own records

20:25

that might receive radio play

20:28

especially when lyrics were

20:30

piled on top new

20:32

york aren't be duo d

20:34

frame produced soulful

20:36

records in the post disco

20:38

idiom heavy with synthesizers

20:42

on their nineteen eighty two number

20:44

thirteen aren't be hit your

20:46

the one for me the since

20:48

are more than rhythmic for ornamental

20:52

they are like and upstream horse on

20:54

the track

21:05

the atlantic italian singer

21:07

ryan's harris's dolce visa

21:10

number one in a half dozen european

21:13

countries in early eighty three

21:15

as well as top five in the uk

21:18

took the it's hallowed disc of style

21:20

added pop vocals in english

21:23

and achieved a blend of romantic

21:25

machinists and synth pop and

21:27

your mileage

21:36

new

21:39

new wave do well yeah zeus

21:41

known as jazz in the last

21:44

brought since path to the dance floor

21:47

with their nineteen eighty two classic

21:49

situation only situation

21:51

number seventy three us pop hit

21:54

but a number one clubs

21:56

it

22:05

situation combined and

22:08

a seat at the british shill with

22:10

the soulful american sound

22:12

examples of alice and more

22:14

yes including her

22:16

immortal wow

22:21

all of these forms of dance

22:23

music eventually culminated

22:25

in the short lived genre that

22:28

is freestyles closest cousin

22:30

and direct forebear electro

22:33

as it's name suggests electro

22:36

was electro was of techno pop

22:38

rooted in the synth based innovations

22:41

of groups white cross virk

22:44

the german innovators nineteen

22:46

eighty one album computerworld

22:48

is considered a kind of prado

22:51

electrode

23:01

american producers like

23:03

arthur worker and john roby

23:06

sues this journal austerity

23:09

with americans aren't see and

23:11

the earliest glimmers of hip hop

23:14

break dance and break beat culture

23:17

in nineteen eighty two baker

23:19

and ruby teamed with a quintet

23:21

of boston vocalist to form

23:24

aren't be troop planet patrol

23:27

a kind of experiment that

23:29

all music knows quote walked

23:31

an intriguing the line between electro

23:34

and the classic most home so

23:37

uncool climate

23:46

patrols play at your own

23:48

risk was bills out of a lecture

23:51

obese that are so baker and

23:53

zone roby have discarded

23:55

from another track they were working

23:57

on a seminal raft with

24:00

hoarding that speaking of planets

24:03

was also a much bigger

24:05

shit body the

24:23

planet , by off her

24:25

cellphone potter and soul sonics

24:27

course is considered electrodes

24:30

signature track it reached

24:32

number four on the aren't the charts

24:34

in nineteen eighty two bills

24:37

out of and in circulation of cross

24:39

verse trans europe express

24:42

plus behind the beat wrapping bible

24:44

barter filtered through of oh coder

24:47

explosive since stabs

24:49

and stabs dizzying array of electronic

24:52

assess planet bronx

24:54

most critics agrees changed

24:56

the course of far and the wrath

24:59

and dance production for the rest

25:01

of the ninety eighth

25:15

summon up as it is planet

25:17

rock is what you might also call

25:19

a scrappy record producers

25:22

baker and ruby taxin

25:24

electronic sounds and make

25:26

them seem massive on

25:28

bomb butters follow up looking

25:30

for the perfect beat baker

25:32

and ruby further refined

25:34

the electro sound down

25:37

to his us

25:49

three the green beans and

25:51

since stabbed or the electro

25:54

were cropping up on records far

25:56

beyond the new york streets

25:58

such as on you hey post punk

26:00

quartet new orders single

26:03

confusion which they call produced

26:06

with baker and robes

26:20

while this time these pulsating

26:22

the electro sounds began to

26:25

morse as they were applied

26:27

to even scrappier records

26:29

recorded by producers with more

26:31

limited budgets then arthur

26:33

baker miami producer

26:36

tony butler who produced under

26:38

the name pretty tony simplified

26:41

the electro sound even further

26:43

on tracks like go soft

26:46

rock

26:56

the wall and the power of name for

26:59

that pretty tommy track was

27:01

simply free stuff

27:03

though , backstory is

27:05

much debated that was group

27:08

name is credited as though likely

27:10

origin of the genre name

27:12

freestyle even though pretty

27:15

tony was largely working off the

27:17

building blocks of electro

27:19

tony was shifting the sound in the

27:21

direction miami freestyle

27:24

would ultimately go go

27:27

when he began producing singles by

27:29

a club singer name's deborah

27:31

kowalski called herself

27:34

says herself says

27:44

the reserves pair of flagship

27:47

singles in nineteen eighty three

27:49

and eighty four when i

27:51

hear music and look

27:53

out of week

28:03

hamlet or other freestyle

28:06

act to follow this

28:08

, style is part of what

28:10

distinguishes freestyle from

28:12

a left hook for high energy

28:15

energy vocals whoop bleeding

28:17

a bit deliberately flat

28:20

and filled with attitude a

28:22

female version of break dance

28:24

or so called be boy be

28:27

this same be girl

28:29

attitude was picked up by

28:31

our and be vocalist lisa fisher

28:34

who was then recording as a club

28:36

singer named xena zenas

28:39

on the upside is now considered

28:41

a be boy be girl classic

28:44

and another building block of

28:46

the what freestyle

28:57

around the same in

28:59

new york city clubs in nineteen

29:02

eighty two and eighty three another

29:05

attitudinal singer was making

29:07

was bit of a splash more

29:10

than splash how

29:22

much , does a parallel

29:24

universe where she didn't wind up

29:26

sitting over the over could

29:28

have been remembers primarily

29:31

as remembers clubs and more specifically

29:34

a pro freestyles madonna's

29:37

debut single nineteen eighty keys

29:40

over was

29:51

closer to post discuss synth

29:53

pop then freestyle so we've

29:56

had some of freestyles scrapping

29:58

us everybody it was

30:00

only a clubs it reaching number

30:02

three in january nineteen

30:05

eighty three on billboards club

30:07

trucks then called dance

30:09

disco but a year

30:11

later on the hit that would prove

30:13

her mainstream pop breakthrough

30:16

madonna moved more firmly

30:18

in the direction of freestyle

30:20

because she was working with

30:22

one of the prime producers of

30:25

the three style move

30:34

john

30:36

jelly bean he needs us

30:39

was not only madonna's then

30:41

boyfriend he was the producer

30:43

of holiday the song

30:46

that would bring madonna on she's hot

30:48

one hundred for the time jelly

30:51

, like pretty tiny and

30:53

several other producers we'll discuss

30:56

is virtually synonymous with

30:58

freestyle a descendant of

31:00

porta rican immigrants from the bronx

31:02

beneath as innately knew how

31:05

to arrange a mix of that

31:07

with the pinging synthesizers and

31:10

latin poly rhythms freeze

31:12

became known holiday

31:18

was a last minute substitution

31:21

on madonna's self titled nineteen

31:23

eighty three debut album and

31:26

, only track on the set produced

31:28

by jelly beans and needs us when

31:31

his broke in new york city block

31:34

radio played it's first and

31:37

madonna's early digs more largely

31:39

in downtown clubs frequented

31:42

by latin audiences

31:44

latin other words even as

31:46

the single climbed the charts peaking

31:49

at number sixteen on the hot one

31:51

hundred many listeners didn't

31:53

realize the singer of holiday

31:56

was neither black nor latina

31:58

but rather

31:59

an italian american white girl

32:02

from michigan

32:14

new of cultural influences

32:17

mood for shadow were freestyle

32:19

would wind up but though

32:21

it was produced by a freestyle

32:24

author holiday is

32:26

not holiday pure freestyle single

32:28

the say is instruments

32:30

them is more lush with

32:33

post disco elements like cowbell

32:35

and piano it ,

32:37

have the whip cracks since sounds

32:39

leader associated with freestyle

32:43

freestyle middle nineteen eighty three the

32:45

pure freestyle sounds

32:47

was still only a club

32:50

phenomena the song that

32:52

would finally break free style

32:54

on the pop charts it's signature

32:57

shit came out wow

32:59

madonna's holiday was scaling

33:01

the hot one hundred and

33:03

for and brief moments this

33:05

was one of the last times you could

33:07

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let the music plane

36:19

landed in the summer of nature

36:21

eighty two by nineteen

36:24

eighty four it was everywhere

36:27

blaze

36:28

the rhythm track summed up everything

36:31

that had this happen in dance

36:33

music and hip hop with

36:35

jaded snare inspired by

36:37

arthur bagel and drawn ruby's

36:40

work with afrika bambaataa

36:42

syncopation that echoed both

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36:47

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36:50

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36:52

t r eight of is that

36:54

literally cracked like a whip

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37:00

chris barbosa composed

37:02

the track in his home studio

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37:07

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37:10

for it's combination of a

37:12

sizzling rhythm tracks and

37:14

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37:20

there

37:23

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37:25

brenda salmon glee

37:28

raised , washington d c

37:31

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37:33

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37:36

some had previously

37:38

sung with jazz ensemble

37:40

and and are and beetroot so

37:43

her vocal on lox the music

37:46

plays had aren't be

37:48

in it's bones but it was

37:50

pure love in it's added

37:52

to the lyrics in fact

37:55

ghost written by song writer and

37:57

god when our of about

37:59

the clock

38:01

i was dancing is tantamount

38:03

to foreplay and how the

38:05

down

38:06

we're both reveals and

38:08

conceals quote i

38:10

thought it was clear the

38:12

plan was we would share

38:15

this feeling just between

38:17

ourselves shannon sense

38:20

but when the music changed

38:22

the plan was rearranged she

38:25

went to dance with someone else

38:28

unquote

38:35

it was a flashy be born justice

38:38

with female lyrical is sherie

38:40

already it , both romantic

38:43

and enigmatic enigmatic

38:45

was legible true white black

38:48

and brown audiences left

38:50

the music play was the galvanizing

38:53

shit freestyle had been waiting

38:55

been debuting on the

38:57

hot one hundred in november nineteen

39:00

eighty three shannon's let

39:02

the music play a dozen weeks

39:04

later pushed past madonna's

39:07

holiday to become freestyles

39:10

first top ten hit tc

39:12

cases counted it down rendition

39:15

and green goo records just

39:17

as shit proof , one

39:19

dancing disco it as as operate as we

39:21

got americans are forty years shannon

39:23

from washington d c with let

39:25

the music playing

39:35

though it would

39:38

wind up sitting at number

39:40

eight trust me if

39:42

you live in a place like new york

39:44

or miami in nineteen eighty

39:46

four let the music play

39:48

had the ubiquity of a number

39:51

one hit echoing out

39:53

of car radios and boom boxes

39:55

citywide it seems

39:58

the game for dance pop

40:00

after let the music play jelly

40:03

bean beneath as went back and

40:05

remixed tracks from madonna's

40:07

debut album specially haven't

40:10

worked on like the eventual

40:12

number for shit lucky star

40:14

see give them more of a freestyle

40:17

vast

40:24

you

40:31

try to recreate the masses

40:33

of lessons a place on

40:35

her own follow up his gives

40:37

me some nice it's only

40:39

reached number forty six on the

40:41

hot one hundred though it

40:43

did reach number six on

40:45

billboards are and before

40:54

that are in need sources

40:57

suggest is that service had

40:59

established please style as is firmly

41:02

black driven drama but

41:04

another nineteen eighty four single

41:07

by jelly bean beneath as suggested

41:10

as different direction

41:18

the mechanism featuring

41:21

vocals by singer xeni harm

41:24

was a number one slot be hit for geology

41:27

and sigh of relief for a

41:29

, of a seventies rock song

41:31

by british band these ruth the

41:34

mexican seizures more prominence

41:36

latin put question then either

41:39

madonna's holiday for shannon's

41:41

less the news of play both

41:43

of which were produced by porta rican

41:46

t zoe is

41:48

times freestyle even solution

41:51

to this lot

42:01

jeremy lin wood go on to score

42:03

much bigger top forty pop hits

42:06

including sidewalk talk a

42:08

collaboration co written by madonna

42:11

see even sang the chorus

42:14

that eventually reached number

42:16

eighteen

42:26

and for madonna or cells

42:29

jelly bean produced the nineteen eighty

42:31

five number one hit crazy

42:33

for you have full on valid

42:36

that use the tools of freestyle

42:39

in the service of a synthesised

42:54

that jelly beans the

42:56

mexican was closer to

42:58

where freestyle was headed next

43:01

the birth of what seems to be cause

43:04

latin

43:16

don't go was only nineteen

43:19

eighty four single by naomi

43:22

have a lunar gomez known

43:24

professionally as naomi

43:27

the , born afro cuban

43:29

sing earth is credited with

43:31

recording the first universally

43:33

recognized latin freestyle

43:36

hit with pinging results

43:38

that approximated the sound of

43:40

salsa nairobi

43:42

would later we were third the song in

43:45

spanish as notify

43:47

us

43:59

the time of tweezers got

44:02

his number twenty three on billboards

44:04

dancing disco chart in early

44:07

eighty five the latin freestyle

44:09

sound was already spreading

44:12

to other more top forty friendly

44:15

his such as joe

44:17

little brother a single by

44:19

know when thomas a new

44:21

jersey singer disk heard and

44:23

produced by the same team

44:25

behind shannon

44:27

let the music play your

44:29

little brother peaked at number fifty

44:31

seven on the hot one hundred in

44:34

february nineteen eighty

44:44

singer is adapting the

44:46

emerging latin freestyle sounds

44:49

not all of them latin x

44:51

included elisa if skin

44:53

from brooklyn who recorded

44:56

simply as elisa

44:58

and scored a string of fiendishly

45:01

catchy new york radio hits

45:03

such as all night

45:12

the and to turn off

45:22

as well as the maryland

45:25

family band star post

45:27

an orange be and funk combo

45:29

fronted by singer renee digs

45:32

that only finally cracked the pop

45:35

top forty when the to

45:37

adopted the freestyle sound on

45:39

the object of my desire

45:42

or number twenty five

45:54

she be sure on be

45:57

as worse still experimenting

45:59

the landing elements of freestyle

46:02

swiss since sunk shannon

46:05

herself came back in nineteen

46:07

eighty five with a new album

46:09

do you wanna get away whose

46:11

title track topped the dancing

46:14

disco chart and reached the

46:16

aren't popcorn

46:27

i'm in freestyle has shifted

46:30

by nearly eighty size toward

46:32

latin freestyle in

46:34

the spring of eighty five expos

46:37

a expos a group from miami

46:39

formed by producer louis

46:42

a march and they topped

46:44

the billboard dance disco chart

46:46

with a frenetic latin freestyle

46:49

drowned called point of

46:51

no rica

47:04

they find to our

47:06

still refs the clive davis

47:08

one label that was about to

47:10

tear up to orange the and

47:12

pop charts with whitney houston

47:16

but , suppose they would choose

47:18

to more years and a

47:20

full lineup shakes to

47:22

experience a complete breakthroughs

47:25

we'll come back to exposure

47:28

momentarily in

47:30

the meantime in the

47:32

my penis a young woman

47:34

from new york's hell's kitchen born

47:37

lisa this would

47:39

give free style it's first

47:41

real infusion of visual

47:44

star of the wallet

47:59

often known more for it sounds

48:02

and it's producers then is

48:04

singers lisa ,

48:07

as she calls herself and

48:09

adaptation of the nineteen eighty

48:11

four street rap record roxanne

48:14

rock sound sound become

48:16

freestyles most recognizable

48:18

most her debut

48:21

single i wonder if

48:23

i take you home which we played

48:25

you saw earlier in saw show is

48:28

still regarded as one of regarded

48:31

signature shifts not

48:33

the biggest hits it's only

48:35

reached number thirty four on

48:38

the hot one hundred and only

48:40

gradually over a five

48:42

month chart wrong but

48:45

you might call he sold his

48:47

but you single archetype

48:59

show me singing production punctuated

49:02

by vocals shots recently

49:05

, eighteen lead vocals offset

49:08

by a small crew of males

49:11

back and since the aforementioned

49:13

lyrics wrestling with a

49:15

teenage dilemma that

49:18

vive was maintained on lisa

49:20

leases follow up hit can

49:22

you feel the beat

49:31

the only

49:34

me the number sixty nine

49:36

on the hot one hundred but

49:38

didn't well in clubs and

49:40

on urban radio station what

49:43

, lisa lisa from

49:45

other freestyle ass was

49:48

how she was present as

49:50

part of an established group

49:53

the full title of her nice and

49:55

eighty five debut lp read

49:58

air

49:59

caught up with

50:02

full force

50:11

oh course we're a brooklyn

50:13

rap and ,

50:15

were the ones from for lisa

50:18

lisa and culture culture

50:20

a multi cultural black and

50:22

latin and the auditions

50:25

and hired not only the

50:27

surveillance but also the

50:29

two men who back for us

50:31

back culture guitarist

50:33

and basis i'll expand

50:36

and door mosley and

50:38

drummer and keyboard is mike

50:40

seems this

50:42

made me so lisa an

50:44

easier sell not only

50:46

so lisa radio but on

50:49

m cheesy which gave

50:51

the visually striking frio

50:53

more airtime than they otherwise

50:56

might to a dance act

50:58

that would pay big dividends

51:00

leader in lisa leases career

51:03

meanwhile by

51:05

nineteen eighty six the

51:07

freestyle sound was spreading

51:09

in all sorts of unpredictable

51:12

directions

51:26

not unlike the madonna in

51:28

nineteen eighty three when

51:30

, listeners in nineteen

51:33

eighty six first heard the

51:35

group new shoes spells

51:38

and u s h o

51:40

sea many assume

51:43

same block or

51:45

maybe lattice sat

51:48

there single sat there wait

51:50

broke first at block radius

51:53

before crossing to top forty

51:55

radio

51:57

can't wait was on friend

51:59

cutting

51:59

freestyle path and

52:02

be built around singing

52:04

synthesizers alla shannon

52:06

and vocal shots all law

52:08

lisa least

52:18

but new shoes

52:21

only , they're video broke

52:23

on mtv later that

52:25

year did music fans learn

52:28

they were a pair of white people

52:30

from portland oregon a

52:33

wife and husband's named valerie

52:35

day and john smith this

52:38

was in essence the magic

52:41

of the freestyle sound it

52:43

crossed over effortlessly

52:46

i can't wait ultimate

52:48

we reached number three on the hot

52:50

the hundred and numbers

52:52

on the are and feed shocked day

52:55

and smith followed it up quickly

52:58

with the sound alike single point

53:00

of no return which made it

53:02

to number twenty eight pop number

53:05

thirty six call

53:18

the style also worked in

53:20

the world of mainstream a

53:34

family banned from minneapolis

53:37

comprising numbers of the wolf

53:39

graham family broke in

53:42

nineteen eighty six with their

53:44

top three hits crush on

53:46

you a frothy freestyle

53:49

com sucks though the jets

53:51

would score a string of hits

53:53

in a variety of styles

53:56

they kept returning to freestyle

53:58

as on their number

53:59

and he was nice

54:15

the whether it was freestyle

54:17

soul like rainy davis'

54:20

number twenty four aren't be hit

54:22

sweetheart

54:32

or latin freestyle like

54:34

nice and wiles hip hop flavor

54:36

top twenty club hit diamond

54:38

girl the

54:47

transatlantic freestyle

54:49

as on british duo mill

54:51

and kim's showing out produced

54:54

by the u k's high energy

54:56

production wizards stock aging

54:59

and water freestyle

55:09

and it's offshoots we're now

55:11

infiltrating of full radio

55:13

dial worth of hits by

55:16

nineteen eighty seven the

55:18

sound was becoming so prevalence

55:21

and expanding and so many

55:23

directions it was colonizing

55:26

it's own corner of the radio

55:28

universe and billboard

55:30

felt it needed to respond

55:32

with a new sharks

55:45

february twenty eighth month

55:47

and he says do board

55:49

names of front page of announcement

55:51

quote hop thirty crossover

55:54

charge tracks new breed

55:56

of radio read the have like

55:59

him

55:59

the the magazine revealed that

56:02

eighteen radio stations nationwide

56:05

in cities from my

56:06

image in l a centers

56:08

neo texas to norfolk virginia

56:12

has created created hybrid

56:14

format one that played

56:16

songs quote that we're

56:18

officially classified as

56:20

possible black but more

56:22

integrating dance the record that

56:24

didn't start either as pumped

56:27

for the last unquote for

56:29

, of a better term billboard

56:32

calls this hybridized radio

56:34

format cross over and

56:37

they named their new charge the

56:39

crossover thirst

56:48

the chart blue moon placing

56:50

high on the survey was

56:52

miami trio of spoons

56:54

s who had scored that seem

56:57

club his in nineteen eighty five

56:59

but as the time haven't

57:01

made any other shot

57:03

they are mastermind as producers

57:06

lewis marks they had swapped

57:08

out all original

57:10

, replacing

57:12

them with miami based singers

57:15

joy of bruno and corrales

57:18

and jeanette gerardo gerardo

57:20

new single com go with

57:23

ranked number two on the cross

57:25

over thirty in it's first week

57:28

months ahead of the songs

57:30

top five top on the hop

57:32

on

57:40

like all shots the cross

57:42

over thirty was as i often

57:44

say on hit parade of feedback

57:47

loop it revealed to the

57:49

music industry the public's

57:51

embrace of freestyle dance

57:53

tracks like exposes

57:56

and made those tracks more popular

57:59

popular and for mainstream

58:01

rotation hum , with

58:03

me eventually reached number

58:06

five on the hot one hundred

58:08

and it was quickly followed by a

58:10

nineteen eighty seven recording

58:13

of exposes nineteen eighty five

58:16

points of know

58:28

mind

58:31

you not every thrive

58:33

on this new charge was please

58:35

stop at number one that

58:37

first week of the crossover thirty

58:40

was an orange be hit with

58:42

a beat taken from washington

58:44

d sees gogo music

58:47

club a new rose smash cover

58:49

of bill withers me

59:05

the record low cross over

59:07

thirty in his first year of was

59:09

a poor waste of freestyle

59:12

and high energy his whether

59:14

from new york grover's other

59:17

girls

59:25

in one

59:27

single paul mccartney

59:36

british colonel models churned freestyle

59:39

singer of samantha sauce

59:48

former shalimar singer

59:50

jody watley who kicked off

59:52

her solo career with the freestyle

59:55

flavored smash looking for

1:00:06

thirty also revealed that

1:00:08

even music that wasn't strictly

1:00:10

speaking freestyle was

1:00:12

building off of the club driven

1:00:15

energy of then current pop

1:00:17

janet jackson who by the summer

1:00:20

of eighty seven was six singles

1:00:22

deep into her nineteen eighty six

1:00:24

album control missed the

1:00:26

the top ten on the hot one hundred

1:00:29

with her hit the pleasure principle

1:00:31

but on the cross over thirty chart

1:00:34

that freestyle adjacent jam

1:00:36

went

1:00:49

m v expose was

1:00:51

provided by this new chart did

1:00:53

wonders for newer dance acts

1:00:56

giving them a minor league playground

1:00:58

to conquer before moving onto

1:01:01

the big show leader

1:01:03

in eighty seven the philadelphia

1:01:05

quartet pretty poison

1:01:08

took their freestyle jam

1:01:10

catch me i'm falling to

1:01:12

number two on the crossover

1:01:14

chart weeks before it

1:01:16

crashed with top ten on behalf

1:01:18

one hundred

1:01:26

fighting

1:01:28

as all this was the

1:01:30

biggest small see crossover

1:01:33

of nice in eighty seven by

1:01:35

any freestyle act came

1:01:37

from lisa lisa and cold jam

1:01:40

who not only top of the new cross

1:01:43

over thirty charge but even in

1:01:45

a first top the hot one

1:01:47

hundred the only question

1:01:49

was whether they were already

1:01:52

moving away from freestyle

1:01:54

all together

1:02:08

he

1:02:12

all the level to

1:02:15

be embraced outside of the clothes

1:02:17

on the big cities how much

1:02:20

would freestyle stars need

1:02:22

to water down no

1:02:26

plus listeners will hear the rest of

1:02:28

this episode in two weeks for

1:02:30

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