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2:22

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2:24

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2:49

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2:51

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2:54

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2:56

are talking about the M Night feature

2:58

film, old, what

3:00

do you need to know? Well,

3:03

I'll break it down simply like this. What do you

3:05

need to know? I mean, really at this point, a

3:08

family goes on vacation. They get

3:10

sent to a private beach where

3:12

they find out that they start

3:14

to age rapidly. Hence the title,

3:17

old, but I won't

3:19

say any more than that because that's just

3:21

the first of many little twists. Please

3:23

welcome my co-host, Jason Manczukis and

3:25

June Diane Rayfield. How are you

3:27

both? Well, getting older by the

3:30

minute. Every

3:32

second. I feel like I'm living this movie. I

3:34

feel like I'm living this movie. I feel like

3:36

there was a moment in this movie and I

3:38

really, I'm wondering for you guys, I

3:41

feel like there was a moment in this movie

3:43

and it's when, um, Gayle,

3:46

the main couple that were kind of following, although

3:48

there's a number of families on this beach with

3:50

them, the main couple were following is, is,

3:53

uh, Vicki Cripps from the Phantom

3:55

thread and, um, Gayle

3:58

Garcia Bernal. or

4:00

the married couple. And when Gail's eyesight

4:02

starts to go and

4:04

her hearing starts to go, is

4:07

when I was like, oh, I feel like

4:09

they're my age now. I feel like they're

4:11

starting to degrade the way I am. And

4:13

then I, that's when the movie like, I

4:15

was like, oh no, I feel seen by

4:17

this movie and I don't want to be.

4:19

You know? You know, it's so

4:21

interesting because I kind of connected to it in

4:24

a surprising way. I don't know when it was made

4:26

or when it came out, but as

4:29

someone who feels very much so. It just

4:31

came out. It just came out. Okay. So as someone

4:33

who feels very much. It was shot over the pandemic.

4:35

Oh wow. Oh, I didn't know that. I auditioned for

4:38

it during the pandemic. Whoa, what? To play which character?

4:41

Well, Jason and I told this to June many

4:43

times last night. I auditioned to

4:45

play two parts. Two parts?

4:47

Two parts. Because

4:50

I first auditioned to play

4:52

Ken Lung's part. Okay,

4:54

Ken Lung, who is great in

4:57

this movie. He plays Jaren, the

4:59

character Jaren, but correct me if

5:01

I'm wrong, this movie is essentially

5:03

like to me a riff on

5:05

like a lost. It feels very

5:07

lost adjacent to me. No, this feels like an episode

5:09

that you. And wasn't he on lost? Yes.

5:13

He's one of the guys that comes in

5:15

in the later seasons. I think with not

5:19

the others, but like, I can't remember, but he

5:21

was definitely on lost. And I was like, wow,

5:23

he's really in on sci-fi

5:26

tropical set mystery box scenarios.

5:31

I mean, look, I auditioned to

5:33

play Ken Lung's part. I didn't know the premise of

5:35

the film. I was given a hefty

5:39

monologue about being able to

5:41

swim and magnets, which was

5:43

in the film. And I tried to put it

5:45

together, but I did it in a way where

5:47

I didn't even have June read with me because it

5:49

was not part of the pandemic where it was like,

5:51

I don't even feel good enough

5:54

to have June read against me. So I just

5:56

trying to memorize all my parts and then did

5:58

it together as like a big monologue. So

6:00

I did that. That's such a

6:02

hard way to give a

6:04

performance, like fully one-sided, where you're

6:06

just offering your own lines with nothing else to go

6:09

off of. I know, and I was in a weird

6:11

spot, and I was like, I'm not gonna make June

6:13

put me on tape for this. And

6:15

then I got a call, and they were like,

6:17

hey, they like you, but

6:20

they have this other part, and

6:22

that was for the hotel manager.

6:25

And the only line that

6:27

I had to audition with was

6:29

like, welcome, so-and-so family, come

6:32

this way. And that was it, and I was like, well,

6:35

I was like, pack my bags, I'm gonna go

6:37

shoot this M Night movie. Get ready, I'm going

6:39

to the Dominican Republic. Nope, nope,

6:41

nope, nope. By the way, I think this was shot

6:43

in Philly. This is interesting, this is a suburb of

6:45

Philly where this beach is. Yes, like

6:47

all M Night movies, shot in Philly. And

6:50

like all M Night movies, I was shocked that

6:52

at the end, Mr. Glass was there. In

6:56

the laboratory. He was right there in the laboratory,

6:59

and then he walked right up to them on the beach, and he said, Mr.

7:01

Glass, get ready. Uh-oh. I'm

7:04

gonna be so bold as to say something, which

7:06

is, I think I liked this movie quite a

7:08

bit. I mean, I- What?

7:11

Yeah. Here's what I'm gonna say,

7:13

here's what I'm gonna say. And I liked elements

7:15

of this movie. This

7:18

movie felt like a, there was a

7:21

lot of strong Twilight

7:23

Zone kind of vibes

7:26

to it that I thought was good. The

7:28

performances were good, but it's too long. For

7:32

a movie that is just about the people on

7:34

the beach getting older and trying

7:36

to put the clues together, this movie should

7:38

not be essentially two hours long. Well,

7:41

I don't know. I mean, I thought, so

7:44

obviously I was getting a mani and pedi while watching

7:46

it. And I saw at the time- A

7:50

step up from getting it while we're recording. So this is

7:52

a good deal. Yeah, we're

7:54

learning. Yes, I got it.

7:56

And I have, I'm so thrilled that my

7:58

manicures and pedicures- has agreed to come up

8:00

to the bedroom and just do it sort

8:02

of bedside. Oh boy. So.

8:05

That's a real scene Jason, it's a real scene.

8:07

Oh I can't, to do it bedside is like,

8:09

that's the statement that is chilling. Like, whoa, I'll

8:11

walk into my room and see a whole operation

8:14

going on in there. Well I was always like,

8:16

oh I have to be downstairs like in

8:18

a living room or a kitchen. And then I was

8:21

like, we've been together, me and him have been together

8:23

for years now. And then I'm like, why can't I

8:25

be comfortable? Like I wanna be in my bed, like

8:27

why? And I asked him, I said,

8:29

do you mind coming up to the bedroom? And he

8:31

said, you know what? How much more

8:34

time will have to elapse for

8:36

you to be getting a Manny and

8:38

Petty while asleep? I have fallen asleep

8:40

Jason. He comes in, I did fall

8:42

asleep once. Okay, he does it while

8:44

you're in some sort of like sleep

8:46

state and you just, you just wake

8:48

up and it's done. That's my dream.

8:50

That sounds great. That's my dream. So

8:53

I did fall asleep because we

8:55

had an incident one time, I will not bore

8:57

our listeners with what happened, but something happened with

8:59

my nails. And so it ended up taking almost

9:01

three hours. It was 11 30 at night and

9:03

I did fall asleep. Oh, well man, that's a

9:05

bit more, three hours. How

9:08

long is manicure and pedicure? It should only be

9:10

like an hour and a half, two hours. I

9:12

mean, he is here for a long time. A

9:15

long time that I would think. A lovely man

9:17

who is here in our house, he seemingly comes

9:19

at like seven o'clock at night and leaves at

9:21

the witching hour. Like, I mean, it is. The

9:23

witching hour. Ooh, that's right. I guess it still

9:26

is spooky season. Yeah, I like a spooky season.

9:28

You know, I was getting a mani and pedi.

9:30

So it's like one of those things where I

9:32

have my hands tied. Like

9:34

I can't look at my phone, can't be

9:36

distracted. Honestly, can't get up and like walk

9:38

around. And so I was sort of trapped

9:40

there with this movie and I

9:43

felt so relieved. You were watching a movie. Well,

9:45

I guess, or you could just say. I mean,

9:48

trapped there with a movie, meaning

9:50

I couldn't do anything to distract myself from

9:52

the movie, which normally I do. I do

9:54

because I'm so sorry, but these movies are

9:56

usually very hard for me to get through.

9:59

Right. They are, Jason and

10:01

Paul, you both. Paul, I barely see you looking at

10:03

them. Oh, I don't disagree. Yeah, this means they're really

10:05

hard, the work we do and suffer through. Picking notes.

10:08

Yes, I agree with you, June, we're heroes.

10:11

We are, we are. Why

10:13

aren't people banging pots and pans when

10:16

we're done with a podcast? That's what

10:18

I ask. So,

10:22

you know, yeah, it's usually really hard for me,

10:24

but this went down, oh, so

10:26

smoothly, so smoothly. I love the way it

10:28

looked, I enjoyed it. And honestly, so what

10:30

I was gonna say, Paul, before you interrupted

10:33

me with your audition story and all of

10:35

the parts you didn't get. Oh my God.

10:37

Oh my God. Yeah. I

10:40

was gonna say that I actually did connect

10:43

to this movie in

10:45

terms of feeling like the pandemic

10:47

has robbed us of time. Yes,

10:50

yes. And especially for someone like me

10:52

who is in the prime of her

10:54

life. Wow, friend that. Firing

10:57

on all cylinders in every way and

10:59

to feel like I had to stop

11:05

and that time was taken

11:09

from us, that a lot of time

11:11

was taken from us. I really did

11:13

connect to it and enjoyed

11:16

it. Now, I couldn't tell you what

11:19

happened at the end and what the

11:21

twists on twists on twists really were

11:23

and why. I

11:25

bet you probably could figure out pretty

11:27

much what it is. It's pretty basic.

11:29

So it's not that like. They're

11:32

just medical, they're doing medical experiments

11:35

on people. Right. And

11:38

because of the properties of this beach or

11:42

this cove or whatever. They can test. The

11:44

magnets. They can test medicines faster. What

11:47

has gone on in Hollywood that we

11:49

have just committed to fucking magnets. James

11:51

Bond magnets, fast nine magnets. Everyone's got

11:53

fucking magnets. We are like. What do

11:56

they know that we don't know? Why

11:58

is everyone being like. What about some

12:00

magnets? I mean, but then a

12:02

part of me was like, would more people

12:04

take the vaccine if we had

12:07

trials take place at that island? So

12:10

interesting. Let me just tell

12:12

you something. With more people who feel comfortable if they

12:14

knew that people had died quickly. No one knows about

12:16

this island. Very quickly. No, okay, here's the thing. I

12:19

think the reason why I didn't get the parts is

12:22

because- Wait, are we still on your auditions? Yes, we

12:24

need to print that out. Do you want to drop

12:26

your tape in here? Yeah, do you want to just

12:29

drop the audio of your audition? I went to go

12:31

look for it because- You did? Oh, I went to

12:33

go look for it. I was like, I'm gonna play-

12:35

You saved them? Oh, I mean, they're probably on a

12:37

Dropbox somewhere. Here's the thing. The

12:39

reason why I don't think I got it is because

12:41

I wasn't

12:44

weird enough. This movie, everyone

12:46

is weird. Are

12:49

they sweet and are they weird? Are they

12:51

weird? Are they weird? My

12:53

baseline is off because everyone appears to

12:55

be weird from the minute

12:58

you meet them. They all look

13:00

a little dead. The hotel clerk is

13:02

a little, I'm like, there's

13:04

no twist when everyone looks fucking weird.

13:07

Everyone's standing and staring and looking. Well,

13:09

he does that thing where everybody has

13:11

a secret. Everybody has,

13:14

literally, characters have secrets that we don't

13:16

need them to even really have. Molly,

13:21

just put my audition in the Dropbox, by the

13:23

way. Oh my God, incredible. Incredible.

13:25

Should we watch it? I'd

13:27

love to see it. It probably is terrible. Is

13:30

it the height of the pandemic? I'm alone in

13:32

a white T-shirt trying to take myself- I'm sure

13:34

any auditions I did during the height of the

13:36

pandemic are mostly just me sobbing on camera, no

13:39

matter what. I

13:42

also, and I connected with this

13:44

movie similarly June,

13:47

because I feel like, here we are,

13:49

it is already November of 2021. The

13:53

last two years, essentially, have evaporated

13:55

from underneath us. When I look

13:57

at myself, I look- older, I

13:59

feel older. My eyesight is getting

14:01

worse, has gotten worse, or I

14:04

need to get a new prescription.

14:06

Like all of these kind of

14:08

markers of the aging process are so

14:11

present and so, and in the last

14:13

few years and have been moving so

14:15

quickly that when that started to happen,

14:17

especially again, to the Gail and Vicky

14:20

Cripps characters, I think because they're closer

14:22

to my age, when

14:24

their aging started to really kick in, I was

14:26

like, fuck, this movie is,

14:28

this movie is really about getting

14:31

old and this movie is about

14:33

confronting those issues. It's a, it's,

14:36

it's not, it's, it's not a good movie.

14:38

Let me be clear. It's, it's a bad

14:40

movie, but it is playing with things that

14:42

I found very compelling. I did too, and

14:44

I found them to be pretty haunting because

14:47

I felt the same, like, oh, we've

14:51

all, by the way, we've all

14:53

aged so much because of the

14:55

trauma that we have collectively been

14:58

through as a global community. And

15:00

so it feels like not

15:03

only our, our, did it remind me

15:05

of just aging in general and the

15:07

struggles of aging, but also the fact

15:09

that it feels through the

15:11

course of the pandemic that that has been, time

15:14

has sped up and slowed

15:16

down. It's a very weird feeling of

15:18

like, I, because of the

15:20

amount of collective trauma that we've

15:23

all experienced January 6th, the Trump,

15:25

the election, Black Lives Matter, all

15:27

of it, like it has aged

15:30

us. But let me just

15:32

say this, right? I am the person that

15:34

will, will cry. I was crying before this

15:37

movie started thinking about, oh my God, to

15:39

see my little baby go from like a

15:41

five year old to like a 25 year

15:44

old would be like, well, the moment that

15:47

made me cry that I was going

15:49

to mention to you guys, because I

15:51

feel like you would have access to

15:53

this more is when the, the daughter

15:55

who early in the movie as a

15:57

young girl is singing quite beautifully on

15:59

the bus. And then when she's an

16:01

older, like, I don't know what she's meant

16:03

to be, maybe late teens, 20s age, uh, actor

16:06

is now playing that character and she's singing, but

16:09

Vicky Kreps has become too deaf

16:11

to hear her child sing. You

16:13

know, she's not able to hear

16:15

her daughter sing anymore. Like losing

16:17

those connections. I first of

16:19

all, I didn't realize they were played by different actors. So this

16:21

beach isn't real. Oh, the beach,

16:23

the beach isn't real. Yeah. This wasn't a

16:26

documentary. Oh wow. Okay. That was,

16:28

I thought though that one of the things that I can't

16:30

think about it differently. Okay. This is interesting. One of the

16:32

things that I did think worked for me was, I

16:36

thought the, like the replacement of

16:38

the child actors with increasingly older

16:40

and older actors. Yeah. I

16:43

thought they did a great job with, I

16:45

will tell you the one thing I didn't think they did a great

16:47

job with was, uh, and I, and

16:49

I, I, I feel like some of

16:51

the old bones cracked upside

16:54

down in the cave. Oh, I mean, why

16:56

is this happening to her? This is like

16:58

Suspiria, but there's like, there's a moment here

17:00

where like, uh, where we, where our lead

17:02

character, like when he gets older, like, now

17:05

I'm talking like this. Old

17:10

man voice. Here's

17:13

the thing. I just want to, were we fighting

17:15

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19:54

power that you had when you could just

19:56

break off a piece and give it to

19:58

your friend? It's a theme song that is

20:01

stuck in my head. It is a multi-sensorial

20:03

eat with an auditory snap. I love a

20:05

KitKat. Have you had a KitKat lately? Well,

20:07

have a break. Have a

20:09

KitKat. I

20:12

just think like the thing that is driving me

20:15

nuts about this movie, first of

20:17

all, you set up this whole world and I get

20:19

the idea. Like there's so many things at play, right?

20:22

One, which is, and I think it's important

20:24

to note, like

20:26

this movie is the

20:28

most clunky ass dialogue I've ever seen

20:30

in my life. Everyone not only says

20:32

who they are, but their profession. It

20:34

feels like a zillion times. Well, it's

20:36

so much so that the, like as

20:38

a device, the young boy, when Trent,

20:40

the boy is at his youngest, he

20:42

runs around asking everybody, what's your name?

20:44

And what is your profession? And be

20:46

like, I'm a cop, I'm a dancer.

20:48

I'm like, what the fuck is going

20:50

on? Well, that's the thing about M&H

20:52

movies is, they're

20:57

written as like exposition

20:59

dumps, like

21:01

just as dialogue. You know what

21:03

I mean? Like everybody is speaking

21:05

text, not subtext. Nobody is, everything

21:07

is just out in the open. There

21:10

is no, it feels

21:12

like people are talking to each other the way

21:14

that strangers talk to each other, not married couples

21:16

for decades. Well, that's what I'm saying. Everything

21:18

is on this weird baseline, but I want to

21:21

play just a montage of everyone saying who they

21:23

are and what they do. It

21:25

did feel like Sesame Street to me. What are

21:27

your names and occupations? I'm Madeleine. My

21:30

uncle's a resort manager here. I'm

21:32

an actuary. I calculate people's insurance rates based

21:34

on their risk profile. I

21:36

curate exhibits for museums. I'm

21:39

not a forensic pathologist. You're a

21:41

police officer. I'm Patricia. I'm a

21:43

psychologist. Hi, I'm Trent. This is Iblis.

21:45

What are your names and what do you do for

21:47

a living? Oh, well, I'm Suke

21:49

Watson. I'm a chef. I'm

21:51

Greg Mitchell. I'm a cop. Cool. And

21:54

I'm Mele Mitchell. I'm a dancer. What's

21:57

your name? Mitsrasa

21:59

De. And I guess there's

22:01

two things at play, right? Because you

22:04

meet these characters and they're like, you

22:06

live too fast, you live too slow,

22:08

you live just right, you know? Everyone's

22:11

kind of setting up these baselines of what they're

22:13

gonna get. The main couple,

22:15

like I said, Gail

22:18

Garcia-Bernal and Vicky Kreps are in the process

22:20

of separating and they haven't told their kids

22:23

yet, this is gonna be their last vacation

22:25

before they tell their kids they're splitting up.

22:27

And that the mom has a tumor. And

22:31

they're fighting and it's so, like I

22:33

said, there's no subtext. One

22:35

says to the other, you live too much

22:37

in the past. You live, you only care

22:39

about the future, is the reply. Like, I'm

22:42

like, oh, okay, so I guess this movie

22:44

is about time? I mean, one of

22:46

my favorite moments is

22:48

when Vicky Kreps says like, when

22:52

people start to age, she goes,

22:54

I work in a museum, so you know I'm

22:57

not hysterical. I'm like, wait, hold on, wait. Why

23:00

does working in a museum mean that you can't

23:02

emote? Well, I do think M. Night's, I

23:05

think the thing I struggled with the most

23:07

really was the portrayal of

23:10

women and how they age,

23:12

specifically that one woman,

23:15

the calcium woman. Crystal? Yeah, because

23:17

I'm like, it does. You're talking

23:19

about Rufus Sewell's wife, right? Yes.

23:22

The woman who has to take calcium pills? Yeah, she has to

23:24

take calcium pills, which is I guess

23:26

why her bones did that at the end.

23:29

I don't really know. I couldn't figure out

23:31

why her bones did it, but I'm assuming,

23:33

but yes, I believe it's meant to be

23:35

related, yes. But she sort of set up

23:38

as a woman who's completely

23:40

vain and obsessed with how she

23:42

looks. And it seemed

23:44

like as the kids are aging, and

23:46

the kids are aging much more rapidly

23:48

because of how kids develop and grow

23:50

over a year's time, but

23:54

it seemed like the kids were also mentally

23:56

aging. Well, this is what I was trying

23:58

to figure out. Two things. And I what

24:00

bummed me out so much about her and

24:03

about M. Knight's view

24:06

of young women was like,

24:08

oh, she's so vain. And

24:11

as she's aging rapidly, that

24:13

doesn't change. She's never able

24:15

to look at her body

24:17

and think, oh,

24:20

this is just a vessel. I shouldn't

24:22

be so vain. I have

24:24

more to offer. There's it.

24:27

This isn't as bad as I thought it was

24:29

going to be. I'm learning something about myself. It

24:31

was just like, that's the wonky

24:33

part of this movie is like some people

24:36

feel like they're only there for a day.

24:38

Right. And in their

24:40

aging so rapidly and

24:43

it feels like aging

24:45

is giving them wisdom, but wisdom

24:48

is only given through a life

24:50

lived. Right. Like, so they're not

24:52

like learning anymore. Like what you,

24:55

it's actually something that I have said in

24:57

my first book. Maybe if you'd brought that

24:59

to the audition, you would have gotten the

25:01

part. By the way, I did find the

25:03

audition. We'll play it at the end. Okay.

25:06

This was only given through a life lived.

25:08

And, and that's why when they do this

25:10

weird moment, I don't feel the same way

25:12

I thought yesterday or this morning. And I

25:14

don't think my parents would understand. My

25:17

thoughts have more colors in them now. Yesterday

25:21

I had a few colors and they were really

25:23

strong and now I have more and

25:26

they're quieter. She says that

25:28

now she sees more colors, but

25:30

those colors are muted. And

25:32

I'm also like, what does that even mean about

25:35

aging? Well,

25:37

you're right. They don't, they don't give

25:39

really, and to speak to your point,

25:42

June, about Crystal and also all of

25:44

the other characters, almost none of whom

25:46

are given any interiority except for our

25:49

main family, right? We don't understand Rufus Soule.

25:51

We don't understand Crystal. We're not given access

25:53

to mid-sized Sudan. We're not given access to,

25:56

I mean, like, is that a joke? I

25:58

mean, that is a joke. When they first

26:00

said it, I thought so. But

26:02

if it's true, his name in the credits is

26:04

Midsides Sedan. Later, he says his name is Brendan.

26:06

Right, no, but I mean, I felt

26:08

like, why? Midsides Sedan.

26:11

Like, I feel like M.

26:13

Night is writing this movie being like, oh, his

26:16

name is, his rap name

26:18

is Midsides Sedan. I'm, you know, like

26:20

I'm crushing it. Yo, did you see

26:22

Hatchback in Midsides Sedan last night? On

26:24

Vera Cruz, that was off the hook.

26:26

Oh, I like Kia more than them.

26:31

Anyway, like, I feel like nobody is given any

26:33

kind of, except

26:35

for our main family and

26:37

our main couple. And they seem to be aging

26:40

with wisdom, to your point, Paul.

26:42

And with, by examining their

26:45

personal histories and all this kind

26:47

of stuff, we're given access to

26:49

their, their inner lives and nobody

26:51

else are we. Everybody else is

26:53

super broad strokes. Rufus Sewell is

26:55

a racist, you know, Crystal is

26:57

vanity. They are almost embodiment of

27:00

like, like the seven deadly sins.

27:02

I thought he was mentally ill.

27:05

Yeah. Well, I felt like he was

27:07

treating Midsides Sedan frequently as a, as

27:10

the only, as like the only black man, as if

27:12

he was trying to steal from him or if, as

27:14

if he had killed the woman that he was with.

27:16

He kept attacking Midsides Sedan in a way that was,

27:18

he did stab him in the face. And

27:21

to me, felt like he was being, he was,

27:23

it was racially motivated. Like,

27:26

but maybe, I don't know if you guys

27:28

didn't read that. Maybe I, well, I thought

27:30

that at first, and I kind of thought

27:32

that that was supposed to be a little

27:34

bit of a misdirect that we thought he

27:36

was just racist, not just, but racist. And

27:38

then as the movie went on, we realized

27:40

he's gonna

27:43

lose his career and everything he's worked

27:45

toward because he has this raging mental

27:47

illness, schizophrenia, and he's trying to murder

27:49

everyone. I mean, he becomes mixed. He

27:51

just becomes a stabby. I mean, he's

27:53

stabbing everyone at all times. And I

27:56

would say that one thing about this

27:58

movie that I did love was, it

28:00

was a beautiful representation. of mental illness

28:02

and it really... A compassionate, thoughtful examination.

28:04

Yeah, almost like that Anthony Hopkins movie,

28:06

The Father, just really got you

28:08

in there. I mean, his

28:11

mental illness just became like stabbing and

28:13

they had this like exposition line later

28:15

on where it's like, I don't

28:17

think we should put the mental illness people with

28:19

the sick people, which is also like when they

28:22

are doing this test, like, okay,

28:24

so wait, hold on. You're just like throwing.

28:27

So everyone takes one pill

28:30

and that one pill, well, like

28:32

it also is a bizarre idea. Like that one pill

28:34

sits in their body for the 24 hours

28:38

and that's how they determine like the course of it.

28:40

So if you were to take like one dose of

28:42

chemotherapy, you could see if it could cure your cancer.

28:45

Wait, so you're saying, so

28:47

when they got their initial cocktails, their

28:49

pill was in there. So, but other

28:51

people that they're with don't take anything.

28:53

No, they all have their own thing,

28:55

mental health, they

28:57

all have their own weird. Oh, so like, yes, you're right. Yes,

29:01

so like Jaren, Jaren wasn't given

29:04

any kind of medicine. His wife

29:06

was, you know, they cured her

29:08

epilepsy. And, you

29:11

know, Vicki Kreps has

29:13

the tumor, but Guyle Garcia-Bernal doesn't

29:15

have any illness inside of him.

29:18

Well, he has a weird thing with his throat to make him talk like this. He

29:21

has old man voice. He's stricken with old man voice,

29:23

but you know. What a terrible way to do it.

29:26

If I'm the resort manager, which I should have gotten

29:28

that part, I would

29:30

have, why let people with

29:32

children? Well, that's why not

29:35

separate them? There

29:38

have to be a single people

29:40

that you can, if you're going to do

29:43

this, it is truly morally corrupt

29:45

to do it with people with children, you know?

29:47

But that seems to be like exactly what they're

29:49

doing. I mean, go erase their hard drives, make

29:51

sure you never get any of that. Maybe they

29:54

find like the dolls in the sand and it's

29:56

like, well, oh my God, this is like, it's

29:58

always got kids? Why? By the

30:00

way, I did love the way the kids

30:02

spoke to each other because I thought, here's

30:04

my big thought, and I was like, this

30:07

is going to be the best twist that

30:09

that little kid that talks to our main

30:11

boy was going to turn out to be M.

30:13

Night. Like that M. Night like age.

30:15

I was like, ooh, that would be so fun. That's

30:17

why he doesn't have any friends. And that would have

30:19

been like a fun twist because I felt like there

30:22

was there, like there was something there. But instead M.

30:24

Night, if you're worried, M.

30:26

Night is in this movie. Big time. And

30:28

when I'm in this movie and when it's like

30:30

him looking through the camera, I was like, oh,

30:32

boy, come on, guy, we can't we can't be

30:34

doing like, look at me. I'm the filmmaker looking

30:37

through a camera. I like when Hitchcock used to

30:39

just walk through a frame. We don't need the

30:41

whole we don't need a whole scene. We don't

30:43

need a little a whole thing where you're like,

30:45

look at what I'm doing. I'm doing the thing on

30:47

screen that I'm doing off screen. Here's my question. When

30:50

that I didn't think about that, when that little

30:52

kid says that his uncle doesn't

30:54

like the coral and sends our

30:56

hero family that note, is

30:59

he trying to warn them? Yes.

31:02

Oh, OK. We know we come

31:04

back to them and to that kid.

31:06

It doesn't seem like he really knows.

31:09

He doesn't know. He just knows

31:11

his uncle doesn't like the coral. He just does it.

31:13

But he doesn't know what's going on. He knows also

31:15

that all of his friends disappear because

31:18

you heard that never come back from that. I

31:21

never know. I mean, I think that's because

31:23

this medical research company. Is in the is

31:25

in the business of killing. By the way.

31:28

So this medical research company. So they

31:30

are attracting. I was a little confused

31:32

about how people got to this

31:34

resort. Like they were just

31:36

it just felt so happenstance. They were targeted

31:38

in a face. They were

31:40

targeted and they were given a suit.

31:42

They were they were awarded. She

31:44

said it was a sweepstakes that she was told

31:46

she is it is. All right. So

31:49

this hotel, this hotel. So the

31:51

hotel is a normal hotel except

31:53

for these people or are or

31:56

is it is it

31:58

staggered that every day. Like

32:01

everyone in that hotel. I don't know how

32:03

often a trial begins. They're

32:06

only on trials. You'd

32:09

love to get in those books. This is trial 77, so unclear. It

32:12

happened 77 times. For trial

32:14

77, this shouldn't happen. Because of

32:16

this beach, we have been able to

32:18

save hundreds of thousands of lives with

32:20

new medicines. Before we're done, it

32:23

will be millions. We do trials

32:25

and fail constantly, but not today.

32:28

One of this cohort was

32:30

a woman with the epileptic

32:32

seizures. Her name was

32:34

Patricia Carmichael. She suffered debilitating seizures

32:36

her whole life. Nothing could help her.

32:39

The medicine we gave her when she arrived

32:41

turned out to be the exact mixture. She

32:43

didn't have a seizure for eight hours and 17

32:46

minutes. Sixteen and a

32:48

half years. We

32:50

cured her of her epilepsy. We'll now

32:52

fast-track trials, make that

32:54

medicine, and share it with the whole

32:56

world. Every single person

32:59

that needs it. They're

33:02

applauding as if, like, this

33:04

is new information. Like you said, it's trial

33:06

77. At this point, I don't

33:08

think you're applauding another successful

33:11

day of killing multiple people.

33:13

No, what they're applauding is that they... The

33:15

drugs worked. That the drugs for epilepsy

33:17

worked. So they now have a viable cure for epilepsy. But

33:19

they've also killed a tremendous amount of people. Oh,

33:24

they've killed all these people and have,

33:26

like, hard drives full of watching them

33:29

kill each other and then die grisly deaths.

33:31

See, Paul, this is why you didn't

33:33

get the part. Because you couldn't

33:35

really understand this moral quandary

33:37

and how many people's lives could

33:40

be saved from that epilepsy drug that worked. Well, look, I

33:42

get it. I just don't think that you need to put

33:44

other kids at risk. I think, like, let's

33:46

separate the... I think it's worth it. I

33:48

think it's worth it. By the way... Yeah, and

33:50

justify the means. I thought it would have

33:52

been interesting again if that little boy was

33:54

a remnant. Like, it was like, oh, you

33:56

are... Yeah. You didn't go with

33:58

your family on that trip to the beach. So now

34:00

you stay here forever. You know, um...

34:03

Well, I also was like, you know,

34:05

Trent, you know, goes from

34:07

being a six-year-old kid to being like

34:09

a 50-year-old man, um, in

34:11

the course of the day. I mean, obviously, he's still

34:14

a six-year-old kid. But he isn't. But, you

34:16

know, and he isn't, but, you know, he ends the

34:18

movie as a 50-year-old man, but was a six-year-old kid

34:20

just looking for... A good looking 50-year-old man. Anyway, regardless,

34:23

it takes him so long to remember that he

34:25

has a note from the kid at the hotel.

34:27

Like, they... one of the things that bothered me

34:29

in this movie was they never do an inventory

34:31

of what they have. Well, they got all that

34:33

food. They've got all that food. They've

34:35

got stuff that I'm like, find the note

34:37

earlier. Like, you have... Yeah. You

34:40

have something here. Why wouldn't you ever think... I

34:42

know a lot's going on. Listen, I get it.

34:44

No, a lot happening. You were six years old.

34:46

This four-year-old is giving birth to a baby who

34:48

dies. You had a baby. Instantly. And

34:50

then the six-year-old has to bury. You had...

34:53

It's a lot. You had sex with a

34:55

kid and then had a baby that died

34:57

instantly. Instantly. You watched your girlfriend fall off

34:59

a cliff and die. Then your parents... You

35:01

know, I get it. A lot's happening. But

35:03

nonetheless, look at the note. Come on, guys.

35:05

I mean, look, there's a lot to be going on. I do understand why

35:07

that baby died. She said she put it down

35:09

for a second. Time pass... It

35:11

become... Because they put it down for

35:14

a minute, which to the baby was ours, and

35:16

they said the baby died because nobody paid attention

35:18

to it for... But that seems like

35:20

a crazy diagnostic call to make.

35:22

Like, how do they know that?

35:25

I think... I don't know. They're

35:28

a bunch of scientists and dancers

35:30

and librarians. You know... They're

35:33

every... You know, well, you

35:35

know, one is a nurse, one

35:37

is a doctor. One's a rapper.

35:40

One is an actuary. Oh, the actuary. One is an

35:43

actuary. What do you talk about the kids getting hurt

35:45

on coffee tables? Oh, my God. That actually gave me

35:47

the most pause in this entire movie. But

35:50

yeah, there was... I was very hurt on a coffee

35:52

table. But I guess that this is like my issue with it

35:54

is like, well, if that baby was... Wait, I don't remember that.

35:56

What did they say about kids in coffee? When they first go

35:58

into the room. Because most children get hurt. where

36:00

like 95% of childhood accidents are kids in

36:02

coffee tables. When June and I were in

36:04

Montreal, we were put up in this very

36:06

nice house or apartment,

36:08

I should say, and it was

36:11

very modern. And every table had such

36:13

an edge that we were going around

36:15

taping table edges and tennis balls. Yeah,

36:17

we were like taping t-shirts to the

36:19

corners of tables. It was like watching

36:21

them like, I get it now, yeah.

36:23

In bunches. Yeah, well, Sam had just

36:25

learned how to walk too. And his

36:27

literally every point, it was a super

36:29

modern apartment. Every point was like a

36:31

sharp edge and like

36:35

same eye line as Sam. It's interesting that that's where

36:37

Sam learned to walk because I often think that he

36:39

walks like a Canadian. He does, I mean, that's one

36:41

of the things that people say a

36:43

lot. That's why we put braces on him. Far

36:46

scum. That's right, Canada. We have to fix

36:49

our kids' legs when they come back here

36:51

because you're ruining them. By the way, if

36:53

I don't believe our listeners have seen my

36:55

Instagram, but I'm still, for some reason, it

36:57

says I'm based in Canada and I can't

37:00

escape it. What? What

37:02

do you mean? I don't know why it says I'm based

37:04

on Instagram. On Instagram, it says that? I

37:06

mean, congrats. Thank you, but I

37:08

don't, I can't seem to get it off. Canada

37:10

has claimed you, I believe. I think that was

37:13

one of the deals that I made. You were

37:15

one of what they call a disputed person. I

37:17

just, I just. When I left the country with

37:19

the kids without you, I think I had to

37:21

give you to Canada. That was a part of

37:23

the deal I made with customs. I

37:26

will just say that they're, like, first of all, go

37:29

back to the calcium woman for a second.

37:31

Crystal. Crystal. Who does a great job. Again,

37:33

I think every one of these actors is, like,

37:36

trying to ratchet up these lines. I

37:38

love acting. And I think the acting is actually very

37:40

good. I will say. Great actors. But I will say

37:42

it was odd that, like, I feel like she did

37:44

that thing where she's like, I have one wrinkle and

37:46

she went in the, like she went and hid in

37:49

the cave. Right? Well, she put a

37:51

blanket over her head and was like, don't look at

37:53

me. I was like, what is this? This is crazy.

37:55

Like, what was that thing that you and Jessica were,

37:57

June? In the Christmas episode.

37:59

The, uh, oh, crows and she

38:02

was a little crony. Yeah.

38:07

I thought, I thought she did a great job. I

38:09

thought, you know, all the performances, especially I will say

38:11

again, the kids I thought were very compelling. I think

38:14

this really could have fallen apart. What

38:17

did you say? When, uh, when you

38:19

saw, uh, Vicki Krebs acknowledge her son's

38:21

giant bulging crotch, like that, that's how

38:23

she saw that he got older. I

38:25

thought she was recognizing that his shorts

38:27

didn't fit. Yeah, that's what I thought

38:29

too, Paul. You thought, oh boy, Paul,

38:31

this is. I mean,

38:33

it's so crazy to think about the fact that our eyes

38:35

never grow. You know, like our

38:37

newborn eyes are, are, are, are same

38:40

eyes, but our noses are always growing. We

38:42

lose our baby teeth and get adult teeth,

38:44

but we don't get adult eyes. Those

38:47

kids should be losing teeth. They should be spitting teeth

38:49

during some of this. Like, yes, they should have. I

38:51

did think that them having sex on the beach was,

38:53

uh, again, this is where I don't really understand because

38:55

if he's a six year old kid at the end,

38:58

when he's a 50 year old man, he's like, Hey,

39:00

we're going to bring you back to your aunt. He's

39:02

like, Oh, great. Uh, yeah, I'm

39:04

sure that my aunt's going to want to see

39:06

the 50 year old, like he's so bitter and

39:09

like, you know, like he's not like there's an

39:11

element to him. You be too. But

39:13

not as a five year old. But

39:15

he's not mentally a six year old anymore.

39:17

That's not, they have a line of

39:19

dialogue that explains it from the Kara

39:22

character. She says, I'm thinking,

39:24

I'm thinking differently too. Like I'm having, that's

39:26

the color thing, right? Where she's like, I'm

39:28

seeing things in different colors. That what she

39:30

said. Okay. Maybe you're right. Yeah. Yeah. They

39:33

do try again. It's it's wonky. And

39:35

this is the part that's hard is

39:37

like, yes, like they are aging. The

39:40

kids are aging and M like definitely

39:42

wants them to be confronting more adult

39:44

things. So he can't have like a

39:46

six year old intelligence inside

39:49

of a 16 year

39:51

old and then a 50 year old. He has to

39:53

kind of let he's having his cake and eating it

39:55

too. Cause I agree. The version of the movie that

39:57

makes the most sense I suspect would be the 50

40:00

year old man with the mind of a six

40:02

year old. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.

40:04

Their bodies age, but how do you, how does

40:07

the beach age their minds? That doesn't make sense,

40:09

you know? That's what I feel like some people

40:11

are aging in a way where, I don't

40:14

know. And why did Kia Sorrento have

40:16

a bloody nose in

40:20

the beginning? He had a blood clot disorder.

40:22

So he was one of the, they were

40:24

experimenting on him as well. So, but

40:27

I mean, but that just means that he would just have a

40:29

slightly bloody nose. Cause it just like kind of just,

40:31

it's not, it doesn't seem

40:34

like. Well, I think his blood,

40:36

his wound, whatever was blood, it

40:38

wasn't clotting. Okay. So, and that's.

40:40

So it would be running or then, so it wasn't clotting and

40:42

then he took the medicine and it just started to clot. And

40:44

that was how we knew it was working. I

40:47

don't, I don't think his was working because they say

40:49

we didn't get a chance to get good

40:51

results on him because the schizophrenic, because

40:54

the mentally, that was the guy's

40:56

case for we shouldn't allow mental

40:58

illness patients in because the schizophrenic

41:00

killed our clotting subject. You

41:03

know, so we don't have, we have insufficient

41:06

data on that medication because he was killed

41:08

too early. Mid-sized sedan was killed too early.

41:10

I'm going to be a broken record about

41:12

this, Niels. We should separate the pure medical

41:15

subjects from mental illness subjects. Our

41:17

violent schizophrenic patient cost us the data on

41:19

our blood clot patient. Sydney. I

41:21

doubt we'll alter protocol at this point, but put

41:24

it in a form and submit it to war and a

41:26

war again. And the girl also

41:29

died very early who also had the same blood

41:31

clot disorder, right? Because she got on the beach,

41:33

but she had the water. I

41:35

think she had a different, I think she had something

41:37

else. But I thought that's how they bonded over their

41:39

disease. They both had MS. Oh,

41:42

did they both have the same? Yeah. Okay,

41:44

okay, sorry, I misunderstood. That's how they connected through some sort

41:46

of. Got it. But if you go in

41:48

the water, you just disintegrate? What

41:51

do you mean? Because they find that

41:53

they find Ken Lung in

41:55

the water and he's dead and they find,

41:57

and then she was in the water. trying

1:00:00

to keep them paired thematically with what we're

1:00:02

talking about each week here on the show.

1:00:05

I'm curious if any of our listeners have, how

1:00:09

did this get made either Team

1:00:11

Fred or Team Sanity Tattoo? Oh,

1:00:13

we have seen some, we have seen

1:00:16

some Fred tattoos. I have not

1:00:18

yet seen a- Wait, but like you mean like

1:00:20

a drop dead Fred tattoo. Yes, I have not

1:00:22

seen a how did this get made- Yeah, I'm

1:00:25

saying, does anybody have Team Fred as a

1:00:27

tattoo or Team Sanity as a tattoo? People

1:00:29

definitely don't have Team Sanity because they are

1:00:31

not gonna do that. That

1:00:34

would be a way- Because those people are too sane, you think? Yes. Or

1:00:37

are they just crazy enough to do

1:00:39

it? So

1:00:41

look, here's the deal people, these five star

1:00:43

reviews, they're 90 of them. Oh,

1:00:46

wow. Yeah. Because this just came

1:00:48

out. This just came out 57% are five

1:00:50

star. So this

1:00:52

is, you know, people liked it. And

1:00:54

here we go. This is from retired

1:00:57

soldier sailor. He writes this,

1:01:01

cautionary tale, nothing

1:01:03

is free. A

1:01:05

cheap vacation just might be

1:01:07

the death of you. I liked

1:01:09

it. It made my looking forward to

1:01:11

another birthday, 6th of August, 1949, a little less

1:01:13

grim for me. Watch

1:01:17

it, unless you're nearing your 90th or 100th

1:01:19

one. Oh boy. Wow.

1:01:22

And he titled this, ah yes, the story of

1:01:24

a bunch of folks that grow older a lot

1:01:27

quicker than they wanted to. Five

1:01:29

stars. This

1:01:31

one is from Ashley Sanchez. Ashley Sanchez

1:01:33

says, I can't wait to watch this

1:01:35

one. My husband watched it already. My

1:01:37

turn next. Five stars. So she's

1:01:39

getting on. Hasn't watched it yet, but five

1:01:41

stars. Five stars and just the anticipation, like

1:01:43

getting out there, just to let people know

1:01:46

she's gonna get in. This

1:01:48

one from AST says,

1:01:50

pro, fun ride, good

1:01:53

acting, movie draws you in,

1:01:55

con, story could have been

1:01:57

more cohesive, could have done

1:01:59

without the nudity. Was there nudity? Just

1:02:01

a butt shot. It was just like the skinny dipping

1:02:03

woman. I think you just see her butt, but that

1:02:06

was it. I'm five stars there. Yeah.

1:02:08

And then, you know, there were a

1:02:10

couple of third opinions, which we don't

1:02:12

normally do. But these are one star

1:02:15

reviews. And and

1:02:17

I just like this one from Ashley Reynolds.

1:02:19

I went to the theater to see this

1:02:22

movie and I've never been so disappointed. The

1:02:24

only interesting part was The Calcium Lady. And

1:02:26

that was only for two seconds. Oh, my

1:02:28

God. And

1:02:31

a lot of people just enjoyed the ride.

1:02:33

People have been defending this as a straight

1:02:35

up comedy. And they're like, you should be

1:02:37

looking at it as a comedy. Do

1:02:39

we agree with that? No. Yeah,

1:02:42

no, I don't think so. No, I don't

1:02:44

think I don't think I certainly don't think

1:02:46

that's the filmmakers intent. Yes. I understand why

1:02:49

people might approach it from that

1:02:51

point of view, but I don't think that's

1:02:53

your audition, Paul. Well, as a comedy,

1:02:55

we will see in just a second. Originally,

1:02:57

this was shot as a three camera sitcom.

1:03:01

Old came out and it was shot that way.

1:03:03

It was shot like the league was shot. Everyone

1:03:05

just said in a row like so many big

1:03:07

giant full

1:03:10

cast scenes. I was thinking about it.

1:03:12

I was like, this scene has eight

1:03:14

people in it on a beach. This

1:03:16

must be awful. No, and

1:03:18

everything must be 80. Or this must have

1:03:21

been crazy. Yeah. I mean, especially the Philadelphia

1:03:23

winter. You have to be in those beach

1:03:25

scenes like that. Tagline

1:03:28

of this movie was it's only a

1:03:30

matter of time. The budget 18 million.

1:03:32

The opening weekend was 16 million. It

1:03:35

actually made 48 million and it made 90 million

1:03:38

worldwide. So this is pretty big. It came

1:03:40

in 20th out of all the movies made

1:03:42

in 2021. It

1:03:45

must have cost nothing. Well, the budget

1:03:47

18. Oh, 18. 18. Yeah. OK.

1:03:50

That's more than I would have thought. Well, maybe for all the

1:03:53

covid tests. And here's the

1:03:55

interesting thing. The only time that M Night

1:03:57

has ever done somebody else's

1:03:59

work. This is a adaptation of a graphic

1:04:01

novel written in 2010 by writer Pierre Oscar

1:04:05

Lévy and it's called sand

1:04:07

castle and it's that and the

1:04:10

other movie we actually did on the show the last airbender

1:04:13

Those are the only two times that he has

1:04:15

gone away from his own work to kind of

1:04:17

do a pre-existing Got it

1:04:20

But yeah, so that's some of the stuff there and

1:04:22

now you've waited long enough I haven't

1:04:24

watched since I put this up and oh my

1:04:27

god, I'm nervous. I'm like legit nervous Please don't

1:04:29

judge me on this is I did by myself

1:04:34

So good late at night, oh my god, oh, yeah,

1:04:36

cuz I was like I was too embarrassed to do

1:04:38

it I like I like all right. Here we go.

1:04:40

Oh, you look so cute

1:04:44

Adorable Family

1:04:50

doing this morning. Oh my

1:04:52

god any plans today I Might

1:04:56

I suggest this private beach on the

1:04:58

nature But

1:05:02

it's surrounded by these beautiful rocks

1:05:04

and very unusual minerals Kind

1:05:08

of a once-in-a-lifetime experience I don't recommend this

1:05:10

to all the guests just the ones I

1:05:13

like and I like

1:05:15

you guys immediately you seem like a really

1:05:18

nice family and I You

1:05:21

know would love to arrange a van to take you over there. He's like

1:05:25

Great well, you know

1:05:27

a little secret then I'll make all

1:05:29

the arrangements Okay.

1:05:31

Thank you Okay,

1:05:36

first of all, are you open

1:05:38

to feedback fall yes, yes, give

1:05:40

me notes, okay first of all

1:05:43

I Just

1:05:45

adore you and I'm biased because I mean it

1:05:47

I love that man. I love you So

1:05:50

there's that but I do

1:05:52

think that In

1:05:55

that reading I knew something was

1:05:57

wrong about the excursion getting

1:08:00

Sarah Marshall. You know what I mean? White Lotus, I would

1:08:02

take it. I was in that movie. I

1:08:04

was forgetting Sarah Marshall. I don't know if that's

1:08:06

important. Oh, that's awesome. You do audition for it?

1:08:08

I have been cast in a movie. I've sent

1:08:10

out an audition in and I've been cast. Wow.

1:08:13

Which is always a nice feeling. So cool. Yeah. Well,

1:08:17

we've all been cast, right? We can all agree

1:08:19

that we've all been cast in. We've all, you

1:08:22

know, we've all been cast in things usually predicated

1:08:24

on an audition. A lot of times on

1:08:26

an audition, you know, but sometimes, you know, people come to us

1:08:28

and say, hey, we want to, you know, we want that. And

1:08:30

you know, maybe if, you know, whatever, you know,

1:08:32

I don't want to get into any of that. I thought

1:08:34

you did a great job. You look adorable.

1:08:36

I mean, I absolutely wonder. I did that

1:08:38

all by myself. I cut out everybody else's lines.

1:08:41

I know. And you were totally off book, which

1:08:43

I never am for auditions, totally off book. And

1:08:45

you know, I wonder actually if you

1:08:48

didn't have the beard, if

1:08:50

you would have had a better shot. Interesting.

1:08:52

The guy that got the part though has a

1:08:54

beard. But a red one, Jason. But a red

1:08:56

one. It's the American thing of

1:08:59

it. It's the American thing. Would you, I mean,

1:09:01

I think we've already kind of discussed this, but

1:09:03

I'll just go around, around Robin. Would you recommend

1:09:05

people watch old? Yeah. I

1:09:09

enjoyed this movie. This is a movie

1:09:11

that I was happy to sit with

1:09:13

and be with. And

1:09:15

does it, is the impact

1:09:18

there at the end? No, absolutely

1:09:20

not. It's not, but

1:09:22

there's some really interesting themes explored

1:09:24

that I was really curious about.

1:09:28

For me, it went down very smoothly.

1:09:30

I thought it looked beautiful. And I

1:09:33

was, you know, again, I'm also

1:09:35

saying this. Sounds like it's your favorite movie of

1:09:37

the year. I loved it. I

1:09:39

just, in the canon of the movies we

1:09:41

watch, I did enjoy

1:09:43

watching this movie. Now, does that

1:09:46

mean it's amazing? No, but it

1:09:49

was a smooth ride for me. I will say

1:09:51

that it was not a

1:09:53

slog to get through. And we, Jason, I both lamented

1:09:55

that you weren't here for the uninvited, because I know

1:09:57

you got to watch a lot of that over my

1:09:59

shoulder, which is. is a movie that you were

1:10:01

saying that you wish you could have been on

1:10:03

the podcast for. But I do agree that it

1:10:05

was not... There are

1:10:08

a lot of things about it that are interesting,

1:10:10

and I was expecting to be more emotionally

1:10:12

impacted. Like I said, I can cry at a commercial.

1:10:14

I can cry at a lot... It's

1:10:16

very easy to push me over the edge. And

1:10:19

this one, I felt like it was a

1:10:21

cool conception. No, I'm not. I am having

1:10:23

a hard time. Did you get pushed over

1:10:25

the edge by this movie? I mean, I

1:10:27

should have gotten... Because it brought up a

1:10:30

lot of trauma for you because of the... Yeah,

1:10:32

they're not getting the part. And

1:10:34

you didn't get either part. You

1:10:36

know that. So you think now you're

1:10:39

punishing the movie because of that? I might be looking

1:10:41

at it through... Through, you

1:10:43

know, not rose... Whatever the opposite

1:10:45

of rose-colored glasses are. Shit-colored glasses?

1:10:47

Shit-colored glasses, yeah. I'm

1:10:52

going to say, you know, I'm somewhere

1:10:54

in between you guys, I think. I

1:10:57

enjoyed... I certainly enjoyed elements of it. I

1:10:59

think the movie is really very

1:11:02

much helped by the fact that I think

1:11:04

the cast is fantastic. I'm sorry

1:11:06

to say that to your face, Paul. I look...

1:11:08

You felt like the casting in the movie across

1:11:10

the board, Jason, was... I felt like

1:11:12

they nailed it. I feel like they nailed it. Wow. Wow.

1:11:15

I feel like they nailed the casting. I will say

1:11:17

this. I will say, honestly, after seeing... No one hit

1:11:19

a false note. I

1:11:22

will say... Especially the hotel manager

1:11:24

and Ken Leung. Those two

1:11:26

performances were flawless. I can't imagine anybody else

1:11:28

in the world. Oh, God. And

1:11:31

it hurts me. I will say this. I

1:11:33

don't often hold grudges against parts I don't get.

1:11:36

And I didn't in this either. When I did see it, I was

1:11:38

like, that guy actually did a great... I mean, he

1:11:41

creates an energy, but that was exactly what I said in

1:11:43

the beginning. Everyone was a little

1:11:45

bit weird and off. And if I would have... Like, and

1:11:47

that was the thing. Everyone was... There

1:11:49

was no twist, because in the beginning, I knew

1:11:52

something was not right. Even from when

1:11:54

the mom was watching the family through the window. Yes,

1:11:56

totally. Things are off. Things are

1:11:58

off. And that's why I felt like the

1:12:00

movie... The movie is clumsy. The movie is, you know,

1:12:02

like I said, wants to have its cake

1:12:04

and eat it too. It's uneven. It's

1:12:06

too long. But the performances are so

1:12:08

good from both the adults and the

1:12:10

kids especially, that I felt like I

1:12:12

enjoyed watching it as well. It's like

1:12:15

a total, it's a good afternoon watch.

1:12:17

You know, it's like, I would not,

1:12:19

I would be disappointed if I was

1:12:21

like, if I'd gone to the theaters

1:12:23

to see this, or if I had,

1:12:25

if I had like been like, oh,

1:12:27

this is gonna be my Saturday night

1:12:29

movie. I would be like, oh, that's a bummer. This

1:12:31

was not what I, this wasn't as good. But

1:12:34

if I, if you put this on at like

1:12:36

four o'clock and just kind of like watch it,

1:12:38

I'd be like, oh yeah. It's a four o'clock

1:12:40

movie. It's a four o'clock movie. I like a

1:12:43

four o'clock movie and some commercial breaks in there.

1:12:45

And you kind of are washing dishes or organizing

1:12:47

some vinyl, whatever you wanna do. Yeah, yeah. Washing

1:12:49

vinyl, organizing dishes, whatever you're doing. See, and I

1:12:52

think it's also an 8 p.m. to

1:12:55

almost 11 manicure,

1:12:57

pedicure movie. Oh

1:13:00

sure, that's a type of movie I don't understand.

1:13:03

I don't have that, but I get what you mean,

1:13:05

yes. Yeah, no,

1:13:07

and so I think people will have

1:13:09

fun if you've listened to this and

1:13:11

you're intrigued. Yeah, it's a one idea

1:13:13

movie. To Paul's point, it's

1:13:15

a Twilight Zone episode. And

1:13:17

it's not bad. It just, it could have

1:13:19

been even way better. I

1:13:24

think it just needed. I wonder if it

1:13:26

was rushed into production, or

1:13:28

something, because I think there could have been

1:13:30

some edges smoothed off. Because even the big

1:13:32

pharma ideas, it's all interesting. If I sat

1:13:34

down and told you this, that's

1:13:37

a cool idea for a movie. It just, it

1:13:39

felt like it, that's, the

1:13:42

premise is more interesting, I think, than some of the

1:13:44

execution, even though I feel like the actors are doing

1:13:46

their best to get above all of that. Yes.

1:13:49

Now look, you might have a different opinion about

1:13:51

this. You might wanna talk to me about this.

1:13:53

You might wanna talk about your life. You might

1:13:55

wanna talk about this movie. You can do that.

1:13:57

Can we call it 619-PAUL-ASK? We'll play it on

1:13:59

the mini episodes. We'll talk about your problems. We'll

1:14:01

talk about this movie. You can also get on

1:14:04

our Discord at discord.gg slash H-E-T-G-M where we have

1:14:06

our new home and it's very easy to sign

1:14:08

up. It's totally free. Everyone's been loving it. We

1:14:10

have great mods there. It's a safe space and

1:14:12

you can check that out. I also want to plug, I'm

1:14:14

gonna go first some plugging right now, our friend, a friend

1:14:17

of the show, how did this

1:14:19

get made all-star? Seth Rogen has a

1:14:21

podcast called Story Time Out, which is

1:14:23

really fantastic. It's this deep

1:14:25

dive into people's weird

1:14:27

stories from being attacked by a bear to

1:14:30

listening to David Crosby talk about his friendship

1:14:32

with George Harrison. They're very produced

1:14:35

stories with Seth as this like

1:14:38

narrator circus

1:14:40

kind of ringleader bringing you through this like

1:14:42

story that comes to life in

1:14:44

this podcast. The podcast is called Story

1:14:46

Time and I am on this week's

1:14:48

episode. It's called The Crapiest Place on

1:14:50

Earth and it's all about me finding

1:14:52

out that I am lactose intolerant at

1:14:55

Disney World when I was a child.

1:14:58

It's hilarious, I listened to it, I loved it. That's

1:15:01

great, I'm excited. So it is available right now,

1:15:03

you can listen to it. It

1:15:05

is called Story Time with Seth Rogen, yeah. When

1:15:07

you said earlier that it was based on a

1:15:10

graphic novel and you

1:15:12

said it was called Sandcastle, boom.

1:15:15

Whoa, you have it there. I

1:15:17

own this book. Have you not

1:15:20

read it? I did

1:15:22

not put it together. I think I read it years ago. I

1:15:24

think I read it years ago and literally didn't put it together

1:15:27

until you said Sandcastle and I was like, oh,

1:15:29

wait a minute, I know that. Wow. Well,

1:15:32

you have to get back on the mini

1:15:34

episode, read it and let's have a little

1:15:36

discussion, a little talk back about it. Yeah,

1:15:38

we'll totally talk about it. So that's so

1:15:40

funny, you said that and that was the

1:15:42

trigger in my brain that was like, oh

1:15:44

wait, I own that book. I love that.

1:15:46

That's funny. Jason, what do you got? The

1:15:48

new animated show Star Trek Prodigy is out.

1:15:50

It's on Paramount Plus. I

1:15:52

play one of the crew members on

1:15:55

this kind of younger skewing kind

1:15:57

of team of Star Trek adventures. It's

1:15:59

kind of in the mold of like

1:16:01

Avatar the Last Airbender or

1:16:04

Star Wars Rebels. It's a

1:16:06

great inside Star Trek canon.

1:16:09

Kate Mulgrew reprising her Captain Janeway

1:16:11

character and it's a really fun

1:16:13

kids adventure show. And also...

1:16:15

And I'll say with that Jason. Yeah,

1:16:18

go ahead. With that it puts you,

1:16:20

me and June all

1:16:22

in Star Trek. We all

1:16:24

now live in the same Star Trek universe.

1:16:26

And I was just going to say I

1:16:28

have been watching Lower Decks and it is...

1:16:31

I'm plugging my Star Trek show but now I'm going to plug

1:16:33

yours. I'm almost through season one

1:16:35

of Lower Decks and it is also on

1:16:37

Paramount Plus and it is fantastic. Really funny,

1:16:39

right? It's so funny. It's such a good

1:16:41

show. I'm loving it. So I will also

1:16:43

plug... So I'll plug both of our Star

1:16:45

Trek shows, both Prodigy and Lower... Because season

1:16:47

two of Lower Decks just came out recently,

1:16:49

right? Yes. Yes. And

1:16:52

we're at work on season three right now. Can

1:16:54

I... This isn't a plug. But

1:16:57

watching this movie made me think of... There's

1:17:00

a Mike Mills who made Beginners and... No,

1:17:02

I love that. And has the new movie

1:17:04

Come On, Come On coming out. He

1:17:07

along with the band The National made a short film

1:17:09

that's like 27 minutes long and it's

1:17:11

called I Am Easy to Find. It's

1:17:14

on YouTube. Oh, wow. And

1:17:16

it is... I thought of it while watching

1:17:18

this movie because it unfolds over the

1:17:20

course of one person's entire life. So

1:17:23

that is the story. So

1:17:25

it is about aging. It is about all

1:17:28

these... It's

1:17:31

a much better piece of art that gets at a lot

1:17:33

of the themes that are inside of this movie are

1:17:36

much more interestingly explored in this short

1:17:38

film that Mike Mills did with the

1:17:40

band The National. Oh, wow. All

1:17:43

right, yeah. Alicia Vikander stars in it and it

1:17:45

is incredible. I cannot recommend it enough. It is

1:17:47

called I Am Easy to Find and it's on

1:17:49

YouTube. So you can just watch the whole thing.

1:17:51

And it is different than the album. This

1:17:54

is just the... Yes, this is

1:17:56

a single black and white short.

1:18:00

shout out to our super producer Cody

1:18:02

our audio engineer Devin our

1:18:04

amazing movie picking producer Avril Hally our

1:18:06

researcher Nate Kiley our quality controlled July

1:18:08

Diaz and our MVP Molly Reynolds I

1:18:10

want to say thank you to all

1:18:12

the people who do the art for

1:18:14

the show that is Kyle Waldron and

1:18:16

of course Zach McElise who is the

1:18:18

ghost of Craig T. Nelson on

1:18:21

Instagram. Like I said

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join us in the mini episode maybe Jason will be

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