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Hey, do you ever feel like you. You want to get better at connecting with others.
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Maybe your followup isn't great and genuinely just want to
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open up more doors in your life It's the, who's in your life.
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You know, it's not really the how's, you know, when I'm solving
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a problem or friends of mine, the people I'm working with, it's not
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typically let's go down the rabbit hole on YouTube and spend all day
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trying to figure this out ourself. It's. Who are the people around me that can do this?
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Who can be useful to me or how can I be useful to them?
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That's what I'm talking about here. And there's a book I'm going to, I just finished reading.
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. So we're going to get started. What is this book and why the heck now, why am I talking about this?
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The book itself is called what's in it for them.
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What's in it for them? It's by Joe Polish and Joe Polish, uh, runs genius network, genius
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recovery, a high level mastermind, something like a 25, 000 K and
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then 100, 000 K mastermind.
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Elite level business owners, marketers, uh, you name it, have
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been at genius network and no Joe Polish and Joe's awesome.
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Been following them for years. get the book yourself at what's in it for them.
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com. So I can pay for this and anything.
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Genuinely. I just finished reading the book.
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I came out a couple of years ago and I'm a little late to the game
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there, but it's very relevant. And I'm about to reread it again.
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It's that actionable and it's that great. And at the end of the day, you know, imagine being able to
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know the who's and have them actually pick up the phone for
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you or respond to you quickly. And also anyone new or anyone that maybe that went a little
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cold in your network and you want to restart that conversation for
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whatever reason, the, the things in this book that you'll learn.
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Instantly will give you that trust and rapport with people,
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no matter where you are. It could be in person, it could be in email, it could be on phones.
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And Joe walks through all the different little nuances, persuasion
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and all these things of how to think, but also ultimately, it's how
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to get better at just communicating. it just feels like people are a lot more disconnected than ever before.
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You know, there's a lot of noise in the world.
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There's technology that we rely on things like texting, uh, tick tock,
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social media, Instagram, posting, uh, zoom, even AI, you know,
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there's a lot of reasons for this. There's just a lot of noise.
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And, you know, for me, add on, and I know many of you listening, you
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have kids, you have, uh, partners, you have a life to lead at home,
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there's more things than, than just business or even just family
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life, but it's like you're, you got these responsibilities, you
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want to take care of yourself, your, your mind, your body, your
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spirit, the whole thing, you know, so, uh, these, these tactics more
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or less are to improve yourself, but also improve relationships
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because I feel like we all need that more than ever right now.
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So this brings in the humanness. I'm all about that.
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I'm all about bringing people together and then giving value.
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And I know Joe Polish, he's been doing this much longer than I have.
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I've been doing some of the stuff in this book, but it's
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kind of been a little bit more haphazardly or my own way.
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But what Joe's done in this, uh, what's in it for them book is
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ultimately bringing people together. So, uh, yeah.
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Very first thing, the subtitle of the book is nine genius networking
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principles to get what you want by helping others get what they want.
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And that's the key thing is you get what you want. So you're opening doors, you know, it's who you
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know, and all that stuff. You can get what you want by helping other people get what they want.
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And ultimately, you know, it's a win win.
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It's a win for everybody. So, uh, here's the deal.
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First takeaway, I'm just going to get right into it. And this is kind of an overarching theme of the book.
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And it's a theme of something I did at Genius Network just
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a couple weeks ago with Mike Koenigs, a guy I partnered up
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with on AI stuff is being useful.
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My first takeaway here. pretty obvious, but be useful and then also be grateful and
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valuable to people around you. the usefulness is key and being grateful, showing appreciation
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and being valuable, like actually being there for others.
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It's huge. And if you can just imagine like, how can I be useful to this person,
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to you, to them, you know, and, and just having that mindset.
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It's, it's huge. It could change, it could flip the script on a lot of your thinking
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or how you approach a situation. Now, a quick little story here is about two weeks ago,
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two and a half weeks ago. Uh, myself and Mike Koenig.
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We have been helping a lot of business owners.
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Leverage AI to scale their productivity, scale their
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teams, their efforts, and ultimately their business for
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in a whole bunch of spaces. And these are professional businesses and, and they're
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rocking and rolling. I mean, these are real businesses, not usually a one person.
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It's like a team with multiple people.
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this can work for. the individual, but it could also work for massive teams.
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And, uh, so that's what I've been doing a lot of my
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time outside of this show. And Mike Koenigs and myself went to Joe Polish's genius
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network headquarters and we spent a full day there.
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We had 50 people in a room and we did a full workshop from nine
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in the morning to six at night. And I was drained by the end of it, but I was empowered as well.
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And it was, it was, Incredible to, uh, basically show in real time
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how to use AI to create media and marketing and scale what we're all
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doing in businesses in real time.
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As part of that, there was a podcast that Mike Koenigs and
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Joe Polish did together on stage.
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And I helped kind of produce and put the whole thing
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together in real time. We basically created a show and showed how we do it.
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We, we did it. Pulled the audience for their questions.
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I used AI assembled a whole show flow, basically
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gave it to Joe Polish. He had a little iPad and he MC the whole thing and led Mike.
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And one of the themes that came through is a lot of AI talk,
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but it was also talking about how there's a lot of anxiety.
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There's a lot of disconnection in the world and the humanness
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is, it's honestly being more, it's becoming more valuable.
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Then the tech and the AI, that's a tool, you know, and in this
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discussion, we're actually getting, you know, Mike got very vulnerable.
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I'll, I'll link in the show notes or the comments below.
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it's on YouTube and it's great. I recommend watching it.
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You'll learn a lot. And it was emotional.
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I got emotional at parts because there's legit, I think, panic
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happening And people aren't really talking about it. And there's that disconnection factor I talked about too.
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But layer on all these other factors, this is the time where
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we get to connect with others and be useful to others and be
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grateful, appreciate others.
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She is interviewing successful business owners and talking about,
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Hey, what are those mistakes? What are the failures? What are the things that you hate to talk about
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that we can all learn from? I mean, like with piano it's do you like to talk about your mistakes?
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Probably not. Well, that's what she's talking about and it's going to be there.
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It is there waiting for you to listen, so you can learn from
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those lessons and learn how to get past them or navigate
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So action step here. And this is something that I've been doing is, you know, when you
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connect with people and this is kind of an overarching thing, use the
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most rich, like if you're not with them in person, use something, not
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text to connect with people or send a Facebook message or Instagram DM.
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Like. That's not cool. I mean, it's cool, but at least you're doing that, but
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send an audio or a video. This is what Joe Polish talks about.
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He's been doing it for a long time. Use the technology that's built in, to take it another
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step, or at least the way I've been doing it is using loom.
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You know, I talked about that in the podcast before here, I had a whole
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episode on loom and how I use it.
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You could use it in texting. I use that all the time.
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I'll link to a loom video. Sometimes I even record it on my iPhone, use the app that way and
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like take people on a walk with me and talk to them that way.
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I send it after I have someone on my podcast as a thank you and it's
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an appreciation and also giving value to them for next steps.
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Opens that door. I do that on my computer.
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So in sending an email, I'll do a loom where I show my face,
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show my screen or whatever's going on and send feedback to
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people that's being useful. So point here is to time block this into your day.
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And I actually do this. I'm not always perfect, but at least sending one or two
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of these a day is my goal. I think Joe takes it up to like five or 10 a day, uh, messages to people.
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And imagine what happens when you do that kind of thing.
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You know, it could just be like a one minute video, two minute
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videos, a minute video, max. It doesn't have to be much.
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And being useful every day to someone in your world,
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business, family, doesn't matter. Like things are going to happen.
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Doors are going to open and people are going to thank you for it.
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So thing number two is to be fun, be memorable, but more
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importantly, be yourself. Not to be too formal in situations and not too chameleon like,
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if you know what I mean there. A lot of us, uh, put on a mask or put on a different way of being.
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We talk different, we look different. We, we walk different.
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Uh, we just act different in front of certain people.
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And you know, it's intimidating sometimes when you have someone
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that you respect, maybe that you're trying to impress.
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Maybe you're trying to get a gig, a client or job
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or whatever it might be. Uh, connect with someone new.
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Being yourself is always going to come through as the most
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genuine, the way that people will connect, they're going to read it.
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You'll be more fun. You'll be more memorable.
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You're ultimately going to build a stronger connection with them
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because you can connect with them. And I would say, you know, I try to do this all the time on podcasts.
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And I think that's what helped me the most is to ask questions.
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So I would say action step here is to genuinely ask questions
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and get to know What's happening.
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Joe Polish talks about this a lot is to understand like,
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what's, what's like kind of keeping people up a little bit.
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What's the pain in their life and really understand what
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they need, what they want and share some personal stories.
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Like, so I always try to relate, you know, if I ask a
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question here a little bit, well, share a personal story.
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You got that kind of reciprocation that, that bond is happening.
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Uh, injecting humor is always great.
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Little, little bits there and read in the room. However you like to inject humor.
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Also, just connecting on a deep level. I did this the other day at a mastermind, you know, we
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talked about family traumas.
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Hey, that's fun. But at the same time, it came up somehow and we just
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kept talking about this. And I mean, you'd be surprised how that connects and bonds people.
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So it doesn't always have to be funny. It could be like, Deep stuff doesn't have to be sad either because we're
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laughing ultimately about some of this uh, I think the point is to
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always be yourself and also You know if if there's a point to go
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deeper or to inject humor in a way that shows your true character
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do it So that's the that's the second piece is to not just be the
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chameleon and try to be what you think others Expect or expect in
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that scenario or want Maybe, maybe it's what they want, but be you
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either way and still give them what they want, or at least, you know,
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do the best you can to give value.
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this leads perfectly into the third thing, which is
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give value on the spot. there's a lot of gold when you can do something quickly for
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others And this is gonna build the trust rapport very quickly,
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and I think it's in this chapter Joe Paul has talked about David
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Allen, so he's the author of getting things done GTD method
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is is what you probably heard So David Allen has a two minute rule.
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Basically it says if you can do something under two minutes, two
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minutes or less, do it right now. So if that's sending a message and getting back to
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someone really quick, do it. Maybe it's sending that audio or that video.
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Do it. If it's on your mind, do it. Do it.
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Uh, maybe there's an email that you got to do, do it.
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Or maybe you're with someone and you want to connect
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them to someone else. Joe Polish literally will like whip out his phone, record video
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of the two people here and then send that to the person who
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wants to connect them with. Do it right there in person.
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I did the other day where I was, uh, referencing a couple of tools.
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We're talking about AI tools, uh, some other things I've created.
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I was sending them in, in real time. I was booking people on my podcast, sending them links.
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Like why wait to send an email? I'll get back to you later.
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It's just. It's head trash. You know, this is going to turn into more work and
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more things to think about. Just do it quickly.
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People are going to respect that. And because most people don't do it.
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So two minute rule is great. That's my third takeaway.
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And those are my three biggies is being useful as the first
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thing, of course, time blocking every day to send these messages.
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Videos and audios are key. Number two is being fun, memorable, but being yourself, be authentic.
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Don't be the chameleon or hide behind a mask.
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Be you and connect authentically.
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And the number three is that two minute rule, or really it's
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giving value on the spot, doing it quickly, not waiting for
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the right time or to follow up. Cause we're not great at follow up.
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Let's be honest. just do it right now. It's under two minutes.
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Just get it done and you'll feel better. So.
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There's a lot more to this book. I'm not going to go any further into it right now because
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I'm about to reread it myself and let it really sink in.
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There's a lot of co action steps in there too. I recommend getting it.
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Go to what's in it for them. com.
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Go get the book. Go tell Joe, I sent you And if you think this was helpful or if you
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have any questions or any ideas of how you like to connect with others,
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leave them in the comments below. Leave a review for the podcast.
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share it around with others. Let's get people to watch it.
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All right. Thank you. See you next time.
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