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one tastes the best? You

1:00

might find out and I don't

1:03

know about that with Jim Jeffery.

1:05

A chip witch. Chip

1:07

witch? Yeah. So chip, I was going

1:09

different bits of dirt of elements of the blend.

1:12

A chip witch is an ice cream I think,

1:14

right? I have no idea. What you're saying with

1:16

chips in it? Like chocolate chips. Chip witch. Oh

1:18

yeah, it's like a cookie ice cream sandwich. Yeah,

1:20

I think a chip witch would... That

1:22

looks good. I don't know, it's probably, it depends what

1:24

sandwich. Alright, start it off with

1:27

a bang. Oh, sorry, I'm so

1:29

sorry, I had a big yawn there. I'm having a lovely

1:31

week. My mother-in-law is in town. A

1:33

cookie yawn. Yeah. She watches this

1:36

podcast so much, she listens to this

1:38

podcast so much that if one

1:41

of the topics comes up, she forgets

1:43

that she knows that information from the podcast. And she

1:45

tells me, which is good because I forgot... How come

1:47

she's not here? Bring her in. She's

1:50

off doing things with her daughter. You know, it's

1:52

rained ever since she's got there. We've done, she's

1:54

from England, we've done the jokes. Brought the, brought

1:56

the weather. Did

1:58

you? Ohhhh,

2:00

remains you at home? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we

2:03

wanted you to feel like home. Haha,

2:05

love of ours. Yeah, all day. Haha,

2:08

that's all I do. Break the

2:10

silence. That's a lot of

2:12

silence. Yeah, it's normally just me and her sitting

2:14

there staring at each other across the table. Haha.

2:17

And then occasionally I think I should put the

2:19

telly on. That'll really help out here. That'll really

2:21

help out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, move the music. But

2:23

then I'm like nah, just keep with the staring.

2:25

Something's got to give. Haha. Haha. We

2:28

have a live podcast

2:30

coming up. Ohhh. Live,

2:33

live, live. March 5th

2:35

at Flappers in Burbank. If you live in

2:37

the LA area, we will... We'll fly in. Mmm.

2:41

Fly on in. Good way to remember it is March the 5th be

2:43

with you. Haha, that is a good way to

2:45

remember it. That's one way you can remember it. Yeah. Or

2:48

just March 5th. March 5th, never forget. Haha.

2:52

Haha. What about something that

2:54

rhymes with March 5th? Uhh, there's nothing that rhymes

2:56

with March 5th. Exactly, but that's the

2:58

thing. There's nothing that rhymes with March 5th. Live

3:01

pocket. Orange. Haha.

3:04

Chicken. Haha. It'll be...

3:07

No, nothing rhymes with orange. Right. You know

3:09

that's a thing, right? That's a thing. Okay,

3:11

good. Eminem dispelled that. What?

3:14

Door hinge. Door hinge, orange. Oh, Eminem the

3:16

rapper. Yeah, he gave like five things. Door

3:19

hinge. Orange. Cause it's

3:21

all you use, slant rhymes, and you make it work. Yeah. My

3:24

wife does something that annoys me. This is

3:26

just one of many things, but that's marriage,

3:28

and you live with the same person every

3:30

day. Right? And

3:33

she does something... My wife

3:35

has an English accent, and I have an

3:37

Australian accent in case you haven't been following the podcast.

3:40

And my wife says

3:43

the word tomato now, like an

3:45

American. Tomato. She says

3:48

tomato. Yeah. And I'm like, don't

3:50

say that. And she goes, what? I

3:52

go, there's a fucking song written about this. There's

3:54

a song. Yeah. You know,

3:56

what are you saying tomato for? Cause that's what

3:58

she wants. She's assimilated. She's

4:01

assimilated. Until

4:03

the day I die, I'll be calling those

4:06

things potatoes. So

4:09

the 5th of March. No one says potato. That's

4:11

the point. Oh, did you

4:13

say potato? Yeah. Well, I say

4:15

potato. You say potato? I say potato. Let's

4:17

call the whole thing off. What are these gigs?

4:19

March 5th, again, is the live podcast at Flappers

4:22

APM. Go to the website, buy some tickets,

4:24

come see us. Another way to remember it

4:26

is it's 250 days before Christmas. I

4:31

don't know. Don't want to fact check that. I

4:34

think that's off my head. Another good way

4:36

to remember it. Well,

4:40

remember like this. Remember when you were

4:42

in the 5th grade and they made

4:44

you march one time? Yeah. Like

4:47

that. Also,

4:50

we are possibly doing one in Australia. There's

4:53

a maybe. There's some things being thrown around. There's

4:55

things that I can't announce yet that I'm doing

4:57

in Australia, but I'm going to be in Australia

5:00

filming something in April,

5:03

but it's not the 1% Club. And

5:07

I'm still doing the 1% Club. I haven't stopped doing

5:09

the 1%. We're going to be filming the

5:11

1% Club in July. May

5:14

I say the number one new entertainment show

5:16

on Australian TV. If the

5:18

adverts are anything to go by, that's what

5:20

I've been told. I haven't. People,

5:22

so I had to do a little press for

5:24

the 1% Club a week and I've been doing

5:27

interviews with different print magazines. I never liked print

5:29

magazines because you can not even be misquoted as

5:31

such, but people can't hear the intonation in your

5:33

voice when you say it. Sometimes something written out

5:36

doesn't read the same. Everything

5:38

I say is so much

5:40

more charming than when it's

5:42

written out, you fat cunt.

5:45

Ouch. Okay. Now, see

5:48

how I did it like that and Jack just sort of took it?

5:51

Yeah. But if he read that, he'd

5:53

be very offended. Well,

5:56

speaking of Australia. That's true. If you read it

5:58

in court, if you read... Jack

6:00

I'm not gonna edit anything else you fat

6:02

cunt Go

6:05

wow was he the abusive boss? Yeah Speaking

6:08

of Australia I have shows there April 24th

6:10

and 26th will be at the factory in

6:12

Sydney Will Forest be at an April as

6:14

well? What's going on? Well,

6:18

I can announce these so April 24th and 26

6:20

in Sydney. I'll be at the factory theater

6:23

There are links to the tickets on my website

6:25

at foreshow.net and then I believe

6:27

it's May 22nd through the

6:29

4th or 5th at the Comics Lounge in

6:31

Melbourne. That's also I made a fifth be

6:33

with you Thank you. Remember that made a

6:35

fourth May 4th May 4th. I'll be comics.

6:37

I'm for sure also a couple other days

6:39

in Melbourne Melbourne and

6:42

then Jim you got some dates coming up to let's

6:44

see what you got coming up here, buddy Vegas

6:48

March 8th and 9th March 8th and 9th

6:50

the March of the 8th of the night

6:53

They're right after the live bug guys Remember

6:56

it by the take back the

6:58

night March. Yep from

7:01

the mid 80s 9 all

7:03

the way here Vegas and

7:05

then March 16th, you'll be at Spirit

7:07

Mountain Casino and Grand Ronde des Organs

7:10

March 16 remember that is a 16

7:12

year old marching over a hill. Yep,

7:14

a lot of marching March 22nd

7:16

Des Moines, Iowa Remember that

7:19

cuz my friend my uncle Brian's birthday

7:22

Is it easy way to remember? March

7:25

23rd, Kansas City, Missouri Oh, that's forest but

7:27

when is your but your birthday's in December

7:29

number first? Yeah, December first so don't don't

7:32

every year every year for the next three

7:34

years and then you're in South Africa April

7:36

12th and 13th, I do you remember I am This

7:40

is how you remember it. What is the date April

7:42

12th? I think well, so I'm going to

7:44

be a cave town I'm

7:47

going to come and do jokes for you

7:50

Come and see me That's

7:53

Africa. It's very are you got it? Might

7:56

take good care of yourself when you

7:58

get to need to fix? Go

8:00

there is a lot of God she said

8:02

marnell doing this on do an extreme Saber

8:05

games here in Pretoria South African he gives

8:07

his of Africa is already we're already though

8:09

they're all my soul outside the I'm that

8:11

tickets are getting her as their own. My

8:14

soul s I've left one say for Oscar

8:16

Pistorius has to get. I'm wondering is how

8:18

many. Types

8:20

of. Three. Quarters of a say

8:22

in any like a celebrity so what

8:24

are sick he brings is gonna be

8:26

super seen as a society such bizarre

8:29

and like do it when he died

8:31

asked with stories and he doesn't bring

8:33

his legs d citizens that. Are

8:36

opposite he had seven years. Now.

8:39

But a man cannabis you have it is

8:41

model up on seats to have always had

8:43

the in denial or is I started earlier?

8:45

Abby really and maintenance. Ah, Yes

8:47

envoy to you right now as got talent,

8:50

zoos and and and with as much as

8:52

he would I would be a refund makes

8:54

it more than any other board. I had

8:57

a problem that I came. Here

9:00

are inflated even. If

9:03

we preserve my. God

9:07

damn bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy rosy eyed to

9:09

spring on their bad so may second you

9:11

get it is I would sit at the

9:13

front our we'll be right next to they'll

9:15

be a blog post at. A death Prose

9:18

is Oscar know obesity? The same sex is

9:20

nothing in common, but what's that conversation going

9:22

to be worth. I

9:25

murdered somebody. Who

9:27

have died zealot. He wanted a zigzag like a

9:29

couldn't if I wanted to. Are you said? May.

9:33

Second: Spokane, Washington my the

9:35

second. Me with you may.

9:37

Third: Denver, Colorado. My.

9:39

The third be with you and an added so

9:42

I may force them or colorado. We.

9:44

Told him mites. Day.

9:46

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9:49

Was it that Martin who are your daughter

9:52

and son as that I remember and that

9:54

sort of apologize I wrong or to be

9:56

in Denver Colorado one of the shows saw

9:58

that was that he says but. Read

10:01

added. Is. The added to the

10:03

thing and they always the best way

10:05

to remember it is ah on Grandma's

10:07

by the bed a some by John

10:09

Dame box and I'll see five times

10:11

a lot of if is the premises

10:13

a grandmother was gonna do this or

10:15

as he had fourteen hundred and four

10:17

so four times I sing Grandma's Featherbed

10:19

as recruited by John Dame a meeting

10:22

on a name but. Yeah

10:25

much the fourth be with you. And

10:28

then neonates there on Jim Jefferies that coming

10:30

an update these August and they had died

10:32

Dalai ones wrong yeah the I won by

10:34

your in North North Charles I for modern

10:37

a Salmon Cisco Ah you're back in May

10:39

as on the thirties and thirty first August

10:41

that is your memory. By going to update

10:43

my by big I see me This is

10:46

these regarding the is epic saga. On

10:49

your on your website is as movies. I'd say

10:51

that it's me out he. Supposes

10:54

hour days about those wasn't even on

10:56

my honor Maeda. On as nice as be

10:58

read by George Know who I am you've done to

11:00

see made by use I have a my own money

11:02

and easy be telling me about. As

11:05

it's service exam and tell him as our.

11:09

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11:11

your management. Has all

11:13

the names or it will. That's what they

11:16

do when one was wrong and and human

11:18

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11:20

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11:22

companies and hope though whole website the security

11:24

select the sector. Is

11:27

from fifty years ago so yes are easy

11:29

life as if I were always on going

11:31

great in the time that I've been married

11:33

to be married three years and all my

11:35

greatest is happening that for years I have

11:38

a can. I dunno who to blame but

11:40

it's not my. Mother.

11:42

Nature Be married. My wife is

11:44

like obeying the President. To

11:48

say that it's but he just said

11:51

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11:53

an autograph houses rating of other

11:56

it's my by as nice as

11:58

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12:00

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12:05

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12:12

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12:16

said they had a bit

12:18

of legends and of fitness.

12:20

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12:23

like a strong mighty oak

12:25

in the far. As far

12:27

as far as it does

12:29

say, I. Became a comedian

12:31

after decades. Of wise as

12:33

a marine biologist and human rights. Lawyer

12:35

and active. Thirteen. Years. I've

12:38

ah had sex. Very funny. Device

12:41

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12:46

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reserve duty to is a good

12:54

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on? It has you guys like Thailand but like

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his own meta. Data. For

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me to parents do. You

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mr be to then i'll do all of his

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is this debate or car so far as as

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thousand of ahead of the guy for subscribed to

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subscribers or give away. Money,

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happens if I get get the fifty

13:45

thousand followers on Instagram I'll give way

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some as him funny Ah A D

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R I S. Or on

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the Kansas City so they victory.

13:57

over as he good prediction Yeah,

14:00

I'm predicting things that haven't happened. Also,

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on the Ukraine taking over Russia, well

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I'll have one more prediction for Tuesday. For

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14:12

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omnicron AIDS. It's a good one. Any other news? Well,

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AIDS. That sounds pretty bad. For all the people

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who are dealing with it this week, chin

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up, but I hear that's how you catch it. So chin

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down. All

14:56

right, now let's meet our guest, Burt

14:58

Dubrow. OK, Burt, now it's time

15:00

to play. Yes, no. Yes,

15:02

no. Yes, no. Yes,

15:04

no. Judging

15:06

of a bite, it's covered. All

15:09

right, Burt. I'm looking at Burt, and

15:11

Burt's got a puppet of himself,

15:14

which is the likeness is remarkable. It

15:16

must have been, you know, it's got

15:18

him. The question is

15:21

which one's the puppet. I

15:23

saw your lips move, so you're obviously the puppet. That's

15:27

right. Are

15:30

we doing a podcast on ventriloquism?

15:33

We are. All right. Yeah. Here's

15:35

the thing. I'm a fan. I

15:37

like ventriloquism. It's the

15:39

opposite of what I do for comedy. Often,

15:42

I believe, they get shit on too much

15:44

in the comedy community. People love them. If

15:46

it's done well, and if you see one

15:48

live, it's very entertaining. And they get to

15:50

say everything that I would like to say

15:52

on stage, but I can't because I'm not

15:54

a puppet. Yeah.

15:56

Let me introduce Burt. That's exactly right. That's

15:58

exactly right. Burt. Burt Dubrow

16:00

is a multiple Emmy and Cable Ace

16:03

award winning producer. He has developed and

16:05

produced shows such as The Dr. Drew

16:07

Show, The Jerry Springer Show, Sally Jessie

16:10

Raphael, and The New Tom

16:12

Green Show. Currently Burt is a senior

16:14

executive producer of Daily Blast Live, a

16:16

nationally syndicated daytime talk show, airing in

16:18

76 markets and 80 stations across the

16:20

country. Burt is a

16:22

student of television and owns an extensive

16:24

collection of memorabilia, ventriloquist figures, videotapes,

16:27

and kinoscopes. How

16:30

did you get into ventriloquism, Burt?

16:34

Well, let's first of all be honest,

16:36

I am not a ventriloquist, but I

16:38

do collect these ventriloquist figures,

16:40

which I'm well aware we probably

16:43

just lost listeners. I think I'm

16:45

out of my mind. If

16:48

you listen to the radio portion of the

16:50

podcast, he's lips aren't moving, he's fantastic. When

16:53

I was growing up, that's really all you

16:56

saw on television. For some reason, in

16:58

the 50s and even the

17:01

60s, for kids shows, it was all puppets

17:03

and it was all a lot

17:05

of ventriloquists, a lot of puppets, and

17:07

I believe it or not at that age wanted

17:10

to be in television, so watched

17:12

it all and I took a

17:15

loving, not a liking, a loving

17:17

to these performers, Paul

17:20

Wontjal, Edgar Bergen,

17:23

these names may mean something to some

17:25

people who are watching, listening. Paul

17:27

Wontjal, Edgar Bergen, Jimmy Nelson, Sherry

17:29

Lewis, these were all major stars

17:32

at the time that were ventriloquists.

17:35

All right. Well, what we're going to

17:37

do is I'm going to ask Jim a series of

17:39

questions about ventriloquism and at the

17:41

end of him answering them, you can grade him

17:43

on his accuracy zero through Jack

17:46

here is going to grade him on his confidence. I'm

17:48

going to grade him on how hungry I am and we'll add

17:51

all those scores together and if it

17:53

doesn't matter what you score, you're going to be a dummy.

17:55

All right. So, wait a minute. Hold on one

17:58

second. So, you guys score him. Right

18:00

now use or his accuracy of of

18:02

the is correct see I owe a

18:05

debt.org I do to Seattle Weather on

18:07

his right okay shuttle Whether a broader

18:09

of Bio Ebert no pressure does it

18:12

matter These who are said authors and

18:14

thousand as far as a lot to

18:16

my eyes I feel the same way.

18:18

Actually my first question, What is Ventriloquism?

18:21

Ventriloquism is puppeteering with the oddest remains

18:23

on the stage with the puppets. To

18:27

be did it for optimum way to do it is

18:29

to make. It look like your lips are moving

18:31

and the puppets talking. Ah so they can

18:33

never truly talk at the same time. Or

18:36

it does just for fun. For me, spell

18:38

ventriloquism. V

18:43

N. T.

18:46

Ah, I

18:49

to U C L I

18:51

well as same in Gabi

18:54

songs the about their activities

18:56

under. Water

18:58

Some names of what are the names

19:00

of the earliest performers are: Ventriloquism. Ah,

19:03

the earliest ones. Oh and I know

19:05

the earliest elite who every day he

19:08

does mention that visibility as well suited

19:10

to design or to censor. Name's Jerry

19:12

Lewis for we had a go at

19:14

it. Easy though, everything in in time.

19:16

It also Jerry Lewis Again, how does

19:18

a ventriloquist other voice like run a

19:21

how they know that it's rise a

19:23

voice as such because the voice doesn't

19:25

land up in a different area as

19:27

is a they they they discrete say

19:29

let's figure like this in a Sega

19:31

such as I can. And the know they

19:34

always talk like this is the thing. That.

19:36

I doubt either is to you as you put

19:38

a permanent sort of sly smile. Ah

19:40

as article on a hot only heard I

19:43

heard of I have of ago. And

19:45

pretty good. What are the five letters that can't

19:48

be said without moving ones lips? Heard.

19:55

Those and run for office.

19:57

I say a disease a.

20:04

Jj played for the Settle

20:06

at A at Heights. A

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Suicide Letters Heights I'd say

20:11

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20:13

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20:16

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our bodies and ah A

20:28

and Z the. Now

20:31

on I saw is like my

20:34

i guess i'm originally as for

20:36

gym it's w severe only i

20:38

rented is what are the puppets

20:41

cause barney. Dummies

20:43

An hour. Dummies made. Were.

20:45

The see those guys that you've got. The

20:48

traditional puppet which you have a stick with. you have

20:50

a couple of levels on it. Ah

20:52

which who made the eyebrows in the i left

20:54

the right no at top stuff and then he

20:56

ever more traditional puppet. now it's more like a muppet

20:58

where you can put your hand in and is do

21:00

the math and they maybe have some things up top

21:03

that will do the are bad and i guess what

21:05

depends with with with with doing something might have fabric

21:07

or something made of wood. If

21:09

it's if it's additional one might have. Would

21:12

I believe I be hand carved and I'm

21:14

that would be made out of something. We're

21:16

all goes something like that and that be

21:18

polished and stained in college and that are

21:21

we gonna top of it and then they

21:23

call him something like got in the giving

21:25

the bow tie and I see a fox.

21:28

A lot of things I know on I

21:30

this about ventriloquism dolls right? When.

21:32

The Ventura Chris dinner around the a puppet

21:34

is up to no good voting other puppets

21:36

back to the bag. Haven't six very big

21:39

six. Last the puppet south like us who

21:41

are some well known dummy makers. Ah,

21:48

Two hundred I most New Zealand

21:50

parents knighted Psychology suicide acting the

21:52

Dallas and for to ah ah

21:54

ah delays is that it was

21:56

a would be like i start

21:59

from Germany. The. Stars Company

22:01

states is started making that up.

22:03

Know. They're big their big manufacturers as

22:05

size styles. Kinda knew. Who

22:08

who was the great Leicester? Ah,

22:13

Ah he would have been a puppet

22:15

not the actual introduced he would have

22:17

a puppet say I worked with Auto

22:19

in Georgia couple times that and saw

22:21

so yes, assist in assist size or

22:23

George George was the The truth is

22:25

that Auto was the puppet the auto

22:27

with the majority's and George was the

22:30

puppets and he said to me odd

22:32

I said to me that he liked

22:34

that when the puppets had ordinary names

22:36

that. I guess so he was

22:38

he was a lesser the pub and other to

22:40

less has the power new work with them. I

22:42

did the nasi so it may may as well

22:45

as a I bakri they're they're insane were in

22:47

of in monterey always do to retain were. Ah

22:50

Autos head guy George's head would blow

22:53

and he do a John F K

22:55

impersonating. Then it's leap forward and. This

22:58

who is the most famous dumbing. Ah,

23:02

I'm. The

23:06

name. yeah. Well

23:08

I mean whoever is the most famous

23:11

one now is is the old one

23:13

that what's his name does the guy

23:15

he pays only child support. There's questions

23:17

come how are you a gentle.have to

23:19

have none of this that retired Fargo

23:21

saw the point of order stuff. All

23:26

made pop it would be the most popular is

23:28

brought us messages recently bit of an hour as

23:30

much as like a Valentine sorry but your as

23:32

starkly even when I when I saw this this

23:34

pop this money. As like I'm the one

23:37

with the freckles on the virus that

23:39

dial honey or Cowles that who is

23:41

Howdy Doody? that's the one easily famous

23:43

or how to use a salutary them

23:45

As an aside, our duty to my

23:48

sorrows, he's I'm thinking of how did

23:50

he have a Howdy Doody sorry back

23:52

in the Nineteen sixties and early sixties

23:54

as in America And a He was

23:56

very much liked by com. The

24:00

Marianne children name some other famous

24:02

dummies. With. Your named Walter work

24:04

I do now. do we classify Kermit

24:06

the Frog? I one.

24:09

To the not real. I don't think that them intros

24:11

us. Like. A soft underneath safe

24:13

and there is yeah that was easy to

24:15

measure like that as as amazing on a

24:17

dummy his is a puppet as it did

24:19

I say is the most unsung hero Television

24:22

is the guy Pride big bird into his

24:24

seventies who just walked around like that bull

24:26

dyke. fast. And. Then just as idiotic

24:28

a little tiny is like screen in front of

24:30

him where he could watch and he just walked

24:32

around all day with his arm ups these to

24:35

run across roads vivid like unbelievable. that God and

24:37

Die that suits. Side So

24:39

one hundred run into a game

24:41

angered names of a misprint or

24:43

less Jeff Dunham. Ah Nina

24:45

County in the Uk and

24:47

Ah Louisiana gone the you

24:49

guys. Quite good each time.

24:52

Second on America's Got Talent.

24:54

For. Don't have worked with him before. I

24:56

can't remember his name on a guy who's

24:59

you perform and yeah the seniors you know

25:01

that was no for one all cherry solitary

25:03

bag that Tie fighter Thirty January Harry fight

25:05

against these a good see things as well.

25:08

Let's choir there are two things he has

25:10

impersonations of famous people, was being of a

25:12

drill or yeah, couple more questions. name and

25:14

famous actors have started out as ventriloquist. I

25:20

was at wouldn't calories was was a dobby

25:22

and that he graduated the big A Real

25:24

boy now I'm our town around I pick

25:26

on them I was well I love the

25:28

area. a slow to pick on Tom Hanks

25:31

night. Hey if not involve a zero sit

25:33

the is Tom. Censor

25:35

our nose out of like that Rgb Spain

25:37

for many. Let me down. Ah,

25:40

actors and start out of control of

25:42

us now famous actors as.as until August

25:45

Marilyn Monroe. Ah ah ah

25:47

Ahmet, I say I Walter Cronkite cried

25:49

and I was on actor but it's

25:51

still the same room as you get.

25:53

a bonus point because that's where he

25:55

started doing account as er du der

25:58

Garde mum about overnight I guess. The

26:00

mailman a guy that die are against

26:02

Oregon probably give. Hence the started off

26:04

doing a bit of introducing with Ruff

26:06

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26:08

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27:46

moving on who's the highest paid ventriloquist to

27:48

have done i'm jeff dunham i have one

27:50

more question asked you been set a jazz

27:52

have the answer for that later i ah

27:55

bird added a grudge him doing a mouser

27:57

ventriloquism zero their ten times the best I

28:00

think Jim did Exceptionally,

28:02

well, I would give him

28:05

all around probably an eight. Hey Yeah,

28:08

I agree. Yeah, I think you did

28:11

better than most would do of

28:13

your age Oh,

28:15

I think you gotta go nationality That's

28:18

you. Yeah, that's you Well,

28:21

thank you How

28:24

did he do in confidence? I give him a seven

28:26

he had some shaky moments He had

28:28

some real confidence if you get me

28:30

water, I'll drink it whilst talking is

28:32

you okay? We'll

28:37

do that later we got something in studio

28:39

for you And then I'm

28:41

pretty hungry ten. You're still dummy. All right, cool So

28:44

what is ventral equilibrium Jim said it's puppeteering where the

28:46

puppeteer stays on stage of the puppet makes it look

28:49

like your lips Don't move that pretty much all there

28:51

is to it. Yeah. Yeah, and use

28:53

Jim was also right that that The

28:56

expression throw your voice is

28:58

an expression the voice doesn't go anywhere It

29:01

starts here the whole idea of ventriloquism

29:03

is you started talking from your stomach

29:05

and squeezing and the voice can sound

29:07

like it's coming From elsewhere, but of

29:09

course it's not Yeah,

29:11

so speaking of that, I mean just jump in

29:14

the head. How does the ventriloquist? Do

29:16

that with her voice? So

29:19

they squeeze their stomach. Is that what they're well,

29:21

in other words, it comes out. It's like this It's like

29:23

you're talking like this almost You

29:26

know what I mean? Like you're you're that and

29:28

that's really where the voice comes from and how

29:30

the voice becomes different and how it becomes Ventriloquial

29:33

rather than just the way I'm speaking right

29:35

now. So that's where you hear a lot

29:37

of talk voices like that. Oh Squeezing

29:41

so ventriloquial So

29:43

what is the actual word mean? What's the

29:46

definition of the man? Well, it's just a

29:48

very it's just a definite It's just ventriloquism.

29:50

It's just speaking ventriloquially means you're speaking as

29:52

a ventriloquist Yeah, there was a question that

29:55

I wrote here that I wasn't

29:57

gonna ask Bert because we were just talking just more about

29:59

the the performers and stuff but the origin

30:01

of the word is that what you want to know jim? yeah

30:04

I'll just read it then that's fine okay ventral

30:06

it's found in egyptian and hebrew

30:08

here it is oh it means

30:11

um uh to

30:13

speak from the stomach oh exactly

30:15

what bert's saying yeah it's from vaudeville yeah

30:17

and the greek phrase for ventral comes was

30:19

gastromancy and i guess that it

30:22

goes far back where like they called him

30:24

belly prophets and like people yeah that they

30:26

were speaking like god was speaking through him

30:28

was that was that way um two two

30:30

of the two celebrities that you

30:32

may know don knott's who was on the andy

30:34

griffith show oh yeah and ted night

30:37

who was on mary t really

30:58

when he came up with the word muppet that

31:00

sort of is an entirely different

31:03

category but you do see ventriloquist like

31:05

that guy you were talking about from

31:07

england who won america's got talent and

31:10

terry fader they all work with what

31:12

they're called figures soft figures

31:14

not dummies jim by the way soft

31:17

figures and the old

31:19

school guys work with the the

31:22

the wooden ones the hard figures they they're

31:24

called how long have you had

31:26

that dummy for that one there my

31:30

daughter actually had it made as a surprise

31:32

as a gift for me about two years

31:34

ago okay good i was about to say

31:37

like if uh if it's like

31:39

30 years old you've aged really well yeah

31:41

exactly i wish i looked like

31:44

him i was like like it

31:46

looks just like you it's fantastic

31:49

so wait so the dummies are the wood ones the

31:51

harder ones so that that's how they refer to her

31:54

yeah they're going to refer to it the pros refer

31:56

to them as figures figures

31:59

not the hard figures or soft figures

32:01

I got you. Exactly right yeah. There's

32:03

a famous story there's a ventriloquist in

32:05

Britain and the bird was named Orville.

32:07

So if you find Orville for me

32:09

Jack you'll see and he used to

32:11

do like the bird was it was

32:13

a great big bird and the bird

32:15

used to sing in a very falsetto

32:17

high voice but there's a famous story

32:19

of him going onto

32:22

stage and the like you

32:24

always have Orville just sitting upside down and the last

32:26

thing you do is he dunk his arm into Orville

32:29

pull our Orville out and he'd walk

32:31

on stage and do the show. Well

32:33

he was doing a TV performance and

32:35

the story goes that one of the

32:37

other performance shat inside Orville. He said

32:39

please welcome to the stage and he

32:41

went out there with the whole performance

32:43

he had that in the same area.

32:46

He was a proud. You'll

32:49

know. Oh the truth, turned into shit. Hey there

32:51

was a guy in England I think his name

32:53

was Rod Hull. H-U-L-L

32:58

and he had a big bird an

33:00

emu. Yeah I know this guy yeah.

33:03

You know the act? Well I know

33:05

that he was big on radio and then

33:08

he had to go do TV and you

33:10

turned out he wasn't a very good ventriloquist so

33:12

he just sort of kept on having holding glasses

33:14

and things in front of his face and just

33:16

talking like like this but still doing the puppet.

33:19

Is that the one? It's worth you guys

33:21

googling him. He would destroy that emu would

33:24

just attack anybody and I mean literally he

33:26

did a tonight show with Carson and

33:28

literally went after Carson and nobody did that.

33:30

I'm talking physically you know grabbing it by the

33:33

head grabbing it by the neck it was

33:35

great. Rod Hull. H-U-L-L. And

33:42

emu. Wow. There used to be

33:44

another emu. See him? Yeah. Very funny.

33:49

Oh no I'm thinking of a different bloke. I'm thinking of a different

33:51

bloke. Yeah attacks.

33:53

Yeah. Well look that

33:55

up folks. It's very funny because it is the It

33:58

is the great get out the video. Truckers I've seen

34:01

ventriloquist is ripping the audience members in

34:03

the audience members second, but triumphs, They

34:05

just take it. kind of take it.

34:08

Yeah. I the that's other by

34:10

a by every hour. Great.

34:12

Pride I was saying can still be another

34:14

sign. Stomach parts there must is the most

34:17

of the some breathing. practicing your some something

34:19

and have to do the. Irony.

34:21

Is Natalia raise robots? And

34:24

there's your is. There are so literally

34:27

stories. where are you visit vents they

34:29

called events would be working and like

34:31

out you know a bar. Or

34:34

where that is your with his drinking. Obviously

34:36

and some guy would get so

34:38

pissed off at the dummy. That.

34:40

He go over and soak the dummy and didn't

34:43

even realize the patrol was was the one Roseville

34:45

our our dummy either that or Harvard those read

34:47

or is where intuit as exit had people come

34:49

up some afterwards or utilities that go into what

34:52

it's fucking mess. Up

34:55

a favorite Syria might a way that out

34:57

his duty. But. It was the

34:59

question what's the most famous puppets or

35:01

what's the most famous debate So I

35:03

have that So I think question was

35:05

what as them most famous ah dummy.

35:08

Was. That and what does Howdy

35:10

Doody? Would that be considered a

35:12

dummy? Yeah, our game is a

35:14

marionette. Married a Mary say they

35:16

the. Other like

35:19

Marionettes last advisors their

35:21

marionettes the to scary

35:23

as else I punch

35:25

and Judy. That so rather

35:27

minute married as I will hand puppet substitute.

35:29

He has bought the as a domestic abuse

35:32

going on about how cells. What?

35:34

The hell would seriously consider hits to

35:36

see as a rolling pin and basses

35:38

him over the head of a like

35:40

it's when you we ask that is

35:42

a clue I want Other factors you

35:44

know you cannot be present Was Jerry

35:46

Springer show which he was very violent

35:49

Backlash: very violent to success Half a

35:51

dozen years ago. Your English idea right?

35:53

they had sticks. They'd be a shit

35:55

out of each other. This is Bob.

35:57

It's. and duty was

35:59

always used in dollars. Maybe she put a

36:01

bit more effort into his outfit and she wouldn't have been

36:03

so angry. But I don't want to say anything. I

36:07

don't know if you heard what Jim

36:10

said. He was referencing you producing

36:12

the Jerry Springer show on violence though, I think. You

36:16

are right. Jim, you are

36:18

right. There was a lot of violence on the jury's

36:20

show, but it was more of a circus than anything

36:22

else. That's what I always used to do. That's what

36:24

I would call it. When the fighting hit, we

36:27

never, as long as you brought it up, people

36:30

think that we planned that and we didn't.

36:32

I mean literally a fight broke out one

36:34

day on the show out of nowhere

36:37

and we looked at the overnight ratings and

36:39

it was like holy crap. How

36:42

could we figure this out? And we figured it

36:44

out and we ended up just having people on

36:46

the head in horrendous relationships and they would beat

36:48

the crap out of each other. But

36:51

I always thought with those contestants, I could

36:54

do a whole show on the Jerry Springer

36:56

show. I watched a lot of Jerry Springer.

36:58

I always thought with those contestants, weren't they

37:00

staying in the same hotel? Weren't they possibly

37:02

flying in on the same plane? Like wouldn't

37:04

they have seen each other at the airport?

37:06

Look at their cousins. They've both been invited

37:08

to the Jerry Springer show and for some

37:10

of them you can tell that was their first. And

37:12

when you filmed it in Chicago, correct? He was the

37:14

mayor of Cincinnati, but you filmed it in Chicago? You

37:16

started it in Cincinnati, then

37:19

Chicago, then Connecticut. But you

37:21

know what, how do I put this?

37:24

They were real. I mean they were real.

37:26

It wasn't like they weren't real. But like

37:28

anything else, once the show became so

37:30

popular, when you got in the air, you sort of

37:32

knew what to do. I mean you weren't going

37:34

to write in and be on the

37:37

show and recite a poem. You knew damn

37:39

well that the only way you were getting

37:41

on is if you had a horrendous relationship

37:43

and things were going to go crazy. That

37:45

was the only way you'd ever get done.

37:47

They knew the assignment. Exactly.

37:51

How did you send out the invites? Because

37:53

There was always one person who

37:55

contacted the show like, I Don't

37:57

get along with my brother-in-law. The

38:00

how do you send the aim right to the brother

38:02

in law. Know Here's what

38:04

we did. I'm in Chicago

38:07

locally. Not. Nationally we would

38:09

run at a voice over the zebra.

38:11

Have you got a horrendous relationship? Or

38:13

year this year that. Call.

38:15

One eight hundred jewelry and a on and they would

38:17

all. Just. Call us if we

38:20

talked to them and they to me it

38:22

was pretty much that simple. split the store

38:24

we used to save his heroics Having a

38:26

normal. Argument. Or. A

38:28

normal. Rocky. Relationship call

38:30

Broths Colorado now selling

38:33

separate really bad and

38:35

us. As

38:38

a fading say. Exactly

38:40

exact revenge relic Residents Bar I

38:42

gemini be surprised by that amount

38:45

of a year now. You're right.

38:47

There are as I L L

38:49

Q U I S M. Quezon.

38:52

Were. Them laps name Some of the

38:54

earliest performers of ventriloquism said Jerry

38:56

Lewis. Now said the Jerry Lewis

38:58

to Ventriloquism. Murder. He did

39:01

not isis Jerry Lewis City probably stars.

39:04

Such I use at it's most likely and I.

39:06

Jerry Lewis never did it. He was more the

39:08

merrier in it. Than that, they're more the dhabi

39:10

that anything you have. The Martin was. Vs

39:13

fuck off the gotten out of

39:16

torque ssssss Sherry low else was

39:18

an angelic as I guess their

39:20

female range hookers are rare Rob

39:22

but I died. In. A there

39:25

any it is there any? Hindrance.

39:27

During a free Melvin Juri goes next to a

39:30

mile or is it all the same Playing field

39:32

runners it harder for them to to to do

39:34

the voice. The guides the same. it's the same.

39:36

Be right that is more men than women. Nice

39:39

You mentioned Nina. I'm and it has

39:41

probably oh this mean is probably one of

39:43

the boar success was but there's not a

39:45

lot of women that do with that are

39:47

successful. They do it but they're not sending

39:49

their burner ever met others In the name

39:51

is Nina is very good. Needed as a

39:53

monkey doubling she has a regular puppet know

39:55

it's have a separate. She's very good. Her

39:57

father is Tom County. Who.

39:59

is of famous actor who I'm trying to

40:01

think, the only thing you guys would know, he

40:04

played Ross's father-in-law to

40:06

the English woman for those episodes where they

40:08

went to Britain. It was him and Dawn

40:10

Sanders. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But

40:13

yeah, she's very good. She's very good.

40:15

I think at any given stage what we have

40:17

on earth, maybe a famous

40:21

ventriloquist and that's it. I

40:24

feel like there's a hole in the market. People fucking love

40:26

him. If I was a kid and starting over again, ventriloquist

40:28

was the way to go. You

40:30

know Jeff, who's this, Jeff and I

40:32

know each other since about 1982 and he

40:34

says I'm the

40:38

first person to put him on television so

40:40

I'll believe him. But if you take all

40:42

the ventriloquists, the early ones, and wrap them

40:45

up, Jeff Dunham has been seen by

40:47

more people than

40:50

any ventriloquist ever to be seen. Edgar Bergen

40:52

was probably the most famous but Jeff is

40:55

doing, I'm sure you know this Jim, he's

40:57

doing 10,000 people in an arena now. Think

41:02

about it, with a freaking ventriloquist. That is

41:04

amazing. Yeah, but he puts

41:06

on a good show. Yeah, and

41:09

you can take your kids there, you can take your grand

41:11

there, you can have a thing. There's adult jokes, kid jokes,

41:13

the kid's heads and all type of stuff.

41:15

It's good for everything. I

41:17

worked with him early on when I was a

41:19

comic at the Miami Improv. So he was

41:22

just, he already was doing theaters but for whatever reason

41:24

he was at the Miami Improv that week. And

41:27

he had the dead terrorist

41:30

guy. He told me the

41:33

eyeballs were, he knew the

41:35

guy that did Mars Attacks. Oh cool,

41:38

the pinball machine. They were the eyeballs that the aliens

41:40

had at Mars Attacks. And then tell me, this is

41:42

what he told me, I don't know Bird of Human,

41:45

but he said he had to create all his dummies

41:48

back, even the ones that were made for him because people

41:50

would own the rights to his act

41:52

or something. Well yeah, he did make all

41:54

of them. He made all

41:56

of them himself. I don't know that that was his

41:58

motivation when he originally started. But he's

42:00

very talented. He does it with a

42:02

3D printer. So he makes the wall.

42:04

Peanut, Walter, Ahmed, Bubba J, all of

42:07

them. Yeah. 3D

42:09

printer. So they're plastic, are they? Yeah,

42:13

the fiberglass. Yeah, yeah. Cool.

42:15

Yeah, yeah, there you go. So

42:17

who's the big manufacturer's...forest? Your forest?

42:20

I don't know. Although, we were getting

42:22

that question. So earlier performers,

42:24

you said Cherry Lewis. And I

42:26

don't know if you mentioned anyone else, but... Bepp

42:30

Leich, who was famous. Yeah, Edward

42:32

Bergen. I forgot the other name, wasn't it? Edgar

42:35

Bergen, Paul Winchill. Paul Winchill

42:37

was the one who I idolized. Loved

42:40

the man, and I was lucky enough to

42:43

become friendly with him in

42:45

his later years. For about 20 years, we were friendly.

42:48

And a little trivia, Paul Winchill,

42:50

known as Andrew Eliquis, known as

42:53

a performer, invented the first artificial

42:55

heart. What? What? Get

42:57

the fuck out of here. And we're

42:59

talking about... Alright, I'm leaving. I'm leaving.

43:01

Are you fucking kidding me? Like seriously,

43:04

he invented the last heart? What was

43:06

that? Part of the heart, yeah. Google

43:08

Paul Winchill artificial heart, you'll see. Like

43:11

a pacemaker or an actual... No,

43:14

no. You'll see. When, if

43:16

you're gonna Google it... Oh, he invented it. He invented

43:18

it. It just doesn't work. He

43:21

invented it, but you had someone else had to make the

43:23

sound without moving their lips. Yeah, yeah. Bubba, bubba, bubba, bubba.

43:26

He created the whole... He had the patent

43:28

for the first artificial heart, Paul Winchill. And

43:30

do you reckon that's because he had his

43:32

hand in things with little holes and then

43:34

going, oh, valves, and then... Well,

43:36

I think it would take a while. Take

43:38

a run more to it than that. What's that? I

43:41

mean, yeah, it's true. He's still credited

43:43

as a ventriloquist and comedian, but he

43:45

made something so important. And I've invented

43:47

nothing. Yeah, yeah. It

43:49

would be cool if you just invented something like that. Yeah, there's a

43:51

photo of him holding the dummy, and the next photo is him holding

43:54

a heart. Yeah, you'd think they

43:56

would leave with a heart. I know, right? I think that's

43:58

it. I'll take a... Was

44:00

he a doctor? He did ventriloquism and they...

44:02

No, he started... He wanted to be a

44:04

doctor. He ended up being a performer but

44:06

he studied medicine

44:09

while he was the top, you know, one

44:11

of the top performers on television. As a

44:13

matter of fact, you know what he used

44:15

to do? This is pretty crazy but I'm going

44:17

to tell you. He

44:19

used to go to his vet and

44:21

ask his vet when he... They would put

44:23

down his cat or a dog, what would they

44:25

do with it when it was sober? And

44:28

they said, well, we'd throw him out. And he said, well, can I take

44:30

a couple of them? And he would open

44:33

them up to learn

44:35

what was going on inside of

44:37

all of the animals and humans,

44:39

etcetera and ultimately ended up inventing

44:41

the artificial heart. Jeffrey

44:43

Diamond did a similar thing but went another way.

44:45

He was too hungry. Yeah, his motivation was different.

44:49

Oh, the five letters that cannot be said without

44:52

moving one's lips. Jim said W. That's all he

44:54

got to. M-P-V-B.

44:57

M-P-B-V. M-P-V, yeah. Think

44:59

about it. M-P-M-E. Try

45:01

to say mommy without moving your lips. M-P-M-E.

45:04

B-M-B-F-E. B-M-F-E. You know

45:06

the problem is my lips are perfect. I

45:10

think we can all agree my lips aren't moving right

45:12

now. But

45:16

it's my Adam's apple, my manly Adam's apple.

45:19

That gives me a way moving up and down. Damn.

45:22

How do you stop that? Turtle neck. How do you make

45:24

that? You don't stop it. You wear a scarf or a

45:26

turtleneck. Yeah, you wear a turtleneck. Yeah, turtleneck or a scarf

45:28

or something. Oh, so that's the thing ventriloquist do, they have

45:30

to cover up their Adam's apple? No, no, no, they don't.

45:33

They don't care. They don't. I'm just kidding.

45:36

Oh, yeah. I never thought about that. I reckon I can do

45:38

it with a turtleneck. I'm not sure. I'm

45:40

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

45:43

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not

45:45

sure. I'm not sure. I

45:48

reckon I can do it while I was drinking water. Oh, I

45:50

think I'll get water. Give me a little water. I've got a

45:52

puppet here for you. All right. I've got a

45:54

soft. All right. What is it

45:57

called? Soft and hard figure. Figure

46:00

I got a soft figure here. Hold on. I got

46:02

one. I have one here for you

46:04

gotta figure out The voice is where you got

46:06

to go He's

46:09

a soft figure be careful with it. Where'd you get

46:11

him? That's John Wynn as a puppet

46:15

When we when we did labor days Web

46:18

series we had a series of puppets So

46:22

you can reach in there you can feel yeah Yeah,

46:25

there you go. There you go All right,

46:27

so and Jack's got some classic

46:29

jokes for you. Oh, I just have

46:31

to you want to try without

46:33

either Jack Show

46:38

them a couple jokes Jack. All right, and

46:41

then I should have a stick for his arm So occasionally

46:43

you can go like this. Oh Jim

46:45

this could bring your career to a whole new level Couldn't

46:51

go down anymore All

46:55

right, so what do we want to call this guy didn't

46:57

calm John Get

47:03

water there Well,

47:07

you know talk another can Hey,

47:12

are you guys um, you know Albert

47:14

Brooks comedian? Yeah, that's really hard to

47:16

do what his first one of his

47:18

most famous bits is him

47:21

with a little ventriloquist dummy It

47:23

was hysterical. Just the whole video. He did it sort

47:26

of the way you're doing it Jim at some point

47:28

look that up It's very funny. It will try without

47:30

the water Jim. Here's some jokes right here Which

47:33

one you? Tommy

47:35

you don't make me look You

47:48

make me look like I'm an idiot Well,

47:53

you don't need any help with that It's

47:58

amazing the voice is so different different that the

48:00

lip movement is. Oh, I

48:02

got a good voice. Ah, you

48:04

make me look like an idiot. Well,

48:09

you don't need any help with

48:12

that. That's pretty good. Is

48:15

that an Al Pacino? Yeah. Hahaha.

48:19

Hahaha. Hahaha.

48:22

I like to sell women, sent of

48:24

a woman. Hahaha. I'll pull

48:26

up some Al Pacino clothes. Now scroll down to

48:28

that window. Zach, you're having a go. See if

48:30

you can pull it off. Okay. It's

48:33

harder than it looks because you have to think while you're

48:35

doing it. You did pretty good. Your mouth wasn't moving. Okay.

48:38

I don't think you're gonna, you know, I don't think

48:40

Jeff Dunham's in trouble or anything, but... You

48:43

look like Kame. How

48:46

do you define a bachelor? Someone

48:48

who'd rather have a woman on his mind

48:50

than on his neck. I

48:53

don't, I assumed that was terrible.

48:55

Hahaha. Well, you were moving

48:57

your lips. It's really hard. I don't know.

49:00

I don't try to just squeeze his stomach.

49:02

And why'd he fly? Yeah, I don't know.

49:06

He does look like Cam Gavinsky. Oh! Speedo

49:12

Cam looks pretty accurate. Very good. Very good. All right,

49:14

we're moving on. Forrest got it though because Forrest got

49:16

three voices. I can't. I

49:18

can, I can't. We'll try to time

49:20

it up. Without a puppet. Yeah, just do it

49:22

without a puppet. Try to do it. I can't do a

49:24

voice that isn't Forrest Shaw. I don't believe there's

49:26

such a thing. Hey

49:29

guys. Hello.

49:32

Hahaha. I'm

49:35

not, ow. All right, all right,

49:37

all right. Bad for the listening, good for the watcher.

49:40

We're not trained ventriloquist. But I do believe

49:42

if I had my garage for a month,

49:45

I would not get any better at it because I don't have a dummy.

49:48

Go ahead, give him a... So, how

49:51

are they made? You were saying 3D printer is one way

49:53

they're made now? Well, that's one way,

49:55

but normally they were sculpted out of wood. Way back when

49:58

they were sculpted out of wood. And we'll have a... Who

50:00

is the first ever sort of acknowledged

50:02

ventriloquist dummy? It was like there's always

50:05

Egyptians involved or something But like who

50:07

is who is the first one on record?

50:09

Do we know that I? Don't

50:11

I don't I don't think we know like that

50:13

they were there because what I was telling you

50:15

before is like it traces back to

50:18

the Egyptians and Hebrew

50:20

archaeology and Greek, but they don't

50:22

know so there was there

50:24

was people that were able to I was back with the Greeks.

50:26

They would have been stavros I Never

50:30

lost a Jewish the British music calls to

50:32

the British music all start way back when

50:34

vlog bill You know oh, it's always

50:36

goes back to vaudeville. Oh is yeah,

50:38

yeah, and then Who

50:41

are some well-known? Puppet or

50:43

figure makers I guess instead of dummies

50:46

Who was to say that again? Who are

50:48

some of the well-known makers of the the

50:50

main the main the main one that everybody

50:52

talks about is a guy? named

50:55

Frank Marshall ma Rsh

50:57

al he made many

51:00

of the ones that the That

51:03

Paul Winslow etc used way back

51:05

when Frank Marshall was the guy

51:08

Okay, the figure maker and then

51:10

in Britain in England a Person

51:13

named in last name was in Seoul

51:15

I and s ul hmm He

51:18

was the Frank Marshall of over you know what a

51:20

in so he's lost my body stays Probably

51:23

and then the great Lester

51:25

was he important. I just found these names yeah

51:27

Yeah, he was one of the first to be

51:29

known you know way way way way back when

51:31

but f not really though I mean they refer

51:33

to him, but no not really okay,

51:35

and then when I asked who is the most famous

51:37

dummy or you know The

51:40

person that I was that I they said it

51:42

was I mean Jim said it's Walter Jeff Dunham's

51:44

Oh, no Walter who might be now, but they

51:46

said it was Charlie McCarthy. I Think

51:49

that's fair to say yeah, Edgar

51:51

Bergen and Charlie McCarthy. That's Candace

51:53

Bergen's father Yeah, I got Bergen

51:55

that up and yeah, Charlie McCarthy.

51:57

I say and Jerry Mahoney Paul

51:59

Winch Yeah, because when I

52:01

looked them up and we could put them on it like

52:03

Charlie MacArthur, I was like, oh, that's the guy I think

52:05

of. That's the

52:07

figure I think of when I think of like classic

52:10

ventriloquism is the guy with the monocle and the top

52:12

hat. What's the upkeep on like, do

52:14

you have to get like wood polish and stuff like

52:16

that? Is there, or you just throw them in your

52:18

bag and you move on to the next city or

52:20

is there like oiling

52:22

the joints on the eyebrows or anything? What's

52:25

the upkeep? No,

52:27

if you're working, then you're fine. I mean, it's

52:30

always moving. But yeah, there's always little fixes that

52:32

you have to do. But if

52:34

it's made properly, it could sit in a trunk

52:36

for two years and come back and it'll still

52:38

be fine. And I asked you how do

52:40

you do what he was, but how do you do that's not a ventriloquism? No,

52:44

how do you do it? It's a marionette,

52:46

not a ventriloquist figure. Bob Smith, who was

52:49

the sidekick or whatever, just pre-recorded.

52:52

He did have his voice actually,

52:54

but they pre-recorded the voice. If

52:56

anyone's listening, I'm going to tell you the greatest

52:59

puppet of all time is an Australian puppet called

53:01

Mr. Squiggle. If you get a chance and you're

53:03

with your kids, watch some old episodes of Mr.

53:05

Squiggle. He's a guy with a pencil as a

53:07

nose. He lived on the moon and

53:09

he would fly down each day and kids would do

53:11

squiggles and he would join all the dots with his

53:13

face. And he would draw and

53:15

he would talk and he had a blackboard that they'd put

53:17

the stencil on. The blackboard was

53:20

a moody cut. The blackboard was sitting there the whole

53:22

time going, hurry up, hurry up, I haven't got all

53:24

day. I'm sorry, I'm painting this picture as fast as

53:26

I can. That's the best puppet ever.

53:28

Mr. Squiggle, get a bit of this. Then he went

53:30

to a rocket ship that was so small that his

53:33

nose would stick out the front of the fucking rocket

53:35

ship. It was a belter. I'm going

53:37

to go home and I haven't even showed it

53:40

to my two year old. Fucking I'm on Mr.

53:42

Squiggle. That's my weekend sorted. Fuck

53:44

the Super Bowl. Okay.

53:50

So the highest paid ventriloquist. Jeff

53:53

Dunham. That would be Durham.

53:56

I'll say Jeff Dunham's XY. Well,

54:00

I also knew very well. New.

54:05

And you're right. She

54:08

was paid very well. You're right. Hi,

54:11

I got all this money. Terry

54:15

Fader would be paid pretty well too though, right?

54:17

Yeah, he would be. Yeah, but nowhere near, nowhere

54:19

near Dunham. No where near. Yeah, because Dunham also

54:21

has private jets and all this other stuff and

54:23

he's selling out a reiner and Fader's doing a

54:25

thousand seat theater. I know he goes on the

54:27

road as well, but. Yeah. Yeah,

54:30

it's got to be Dunham. Yeah, I know. Dunham's

54:32

got to be right up there with the

54:34

highest paid entertainers in show business. Fuck this

54:36

ventriloquist. Yeah, I feel

54:39

like you either are very rich as a ventriloquist

54:41

or derp or. Well, I

54:43

feel like there must

54:45

be a moment in a child's life when

54:47

they decide to become a ventriloquist where they

54:49

have to come out to their parents, you

54:51

know, like, because you have to ask for

54:54

your first puppet, right? Yeah. Yeah.

54:57

I'd be over the moon if either of my boys

54:59

said I want to be a ventriloquist. I'd be right

55:01

down at the puppet store the next day. I'd be

55:03

all over that. Anything creative? Did I

55:05

tell the story on air where I got

55:08

booked as a ventriloquist? You did on the

55:10

last episode. Yeah. Well, what are the acts?

55:12

That was a good story though. In our last episode. By

55:15

the way, there's a good film out,

55:17

but it fit on from years ago

55:19

called Magic with Anthony Hopkins

55:23

who plays a ventriloquist and the dummy ends up

55:25

taking over and he can't control the dummy.

55:28

Anthony Hopkins and Margaret. It's

55:30

pretty weird movie. Yeah. There's

55:32

also another similar film called Magic where Anthony

55:34

Hopkins plays Magic Johnson. That

55:37

one's pretty good, but because of current sensibilities in

55:39

the world, it's been no one can find it

55:41

anyway. I think it's on Disney+. You mentioned Otto

55:43

and George before. Yeah. I

55:46

would cry laughing. That's how funny

55:48

I thought he was. Yeah. Very, very

55:51

funny. Very, very funny. I was a

55:53

bit filthy. You guys should know filthy like you cannot imagine.

55:56

We came out of that dummy's mouth. So there were

55:58

very few places he could really play. Because

56:00

he was just dirty. He was extremely dirty

56:02

and if it wasn't all that you'd be

56:04

canceled which was leading me up to a

56:07

question Has there been a

56:09

canceled puppet? Right

56:15

George you know who's been canceled

56:18

who? Ahmed was canceled Really?

56:22

He's not allowed to use them. He doesn't use them because he had a vest on him.

56:24

He doesn't know why. So

56:26

Ahmed's been canceled. What are

56:29

you saying? A bird's singing doesn't use them. Yeah. Really?

56:31

All that much now doesn't use them much at

56:33

all. Yeah, I could see that because

56:36

when he came out with him, it was

56:38

like right after like

56:40

9-11 like not too far after 9-11

56:42

and then it became probably yeah. Yeah,

56:44

and then the Valentine's special that he

56:46

just did He

56:49

actually brings him out and calls him

56:51

something different a different name Believe

56:54

it or not. Timothy. Yeah,

56:56

he's Timothy. Yeah, he's not

56:58

a terrorist anymore. Well, he's not a jalapeno.

57:01

Yeah, like yeah, he would have after 9-11 put him away

57:04

and gone I'm not using him anymore. Then the Boston bombing

57:06

and then you're like, no when I worked with him It

57:09

was after 9-11 because I didn't I wasn't even doing

57:11

comedy but so had to be after that. But yeah,

57:13

maybe I don't know. I'd

57:16

bring up now. I'd be bring

57:18

out Slav the Russian. Yeah, and

57:20

he's all about Nothing

57:22

Ukraine. That's me new character. I'm trying to

57:24

remember the same voice. We have a thing

57:27

to do. It's a good ventriloquist voice the

57:29

Russian accent. It's a lot of fun. Yeah

57:32

Yeah, you can always beat up on the Russians.

57:34

Oh, yes. Yeah, they're really cool. I'm hoping for

57:36

Orgy. Oh, yeah Oh, good

57:38

stuff He's

57:40

a doll right here. No, he's not Russian

57:42

looking enough. Yeah, he's Russian. No, no, he's

57:45

not Russian looking at him I remember when

57:47

I first started doing stand-up. I was working

57:49

this this this

57:51

club was bonkers as a chain and

57:53

I was I was featuring And there

57:55

was a ventriloquist. I was headliner, but he was like

57:57

at the end of his rope like he

57:59

was Like he was holding together the figure with a

58:01

lot of duct tape, but you could see it. Oh

58:03

yeah, yeah, yeah. You could see it. And he, and

58:06

I remember he had duct tape on a windshield of

58:08

his car. He had duct tape on a lot of

58:10

stuff. And he just seemed really sad

58:12

to me. And it made, it

58:14

was funny to me though, because there's something

58:16

funny about a sad metropolis in real life.

58:19

But then I remember him, like we finished up the show and

58:21

he goes, I go, where are you going? He

58:24

goes, I gotta go see this stripper I'm dating. I was

58:26

like, this guy's life. And

58:29

it all turned around for him. No, I don't think it was

58:31

going well. It's like if you go

58:33

to the Magic Castle and you see the main room

58:35

and that's the people that have the big sets, the

58:37

cutting coffins in half and all that type of stuff.

58:40

And a lot of their props are getting old and

58:42

you'll see like the feet dangling out. They'll be

58:45

all peeled and whatever because they have fake feet

58:47

out the side. And it's always their assistant is

58:49

like, like a woman who you

58:51

know was hot 30 years ago, but just stuck

58:53

with this bloke like, all right, well, we're

58:56

going to make it happen. There's an old couple

58:58

act I saw there that they just kept pulling

59:00

cloths out of pockets and did it

59:02

for like 10 minutes. And every time you go, okay. Well,

59:05

I'm telling you, my theory is whenever you

59:07

have birds involved in a magic show, they always

59:09

put them early on in the show. So

59:12

because they've because right before they're going on,

59:14

they shove and doves up their armpits, doves

59:17

up this, does not this way. So they come out

59:19

and they go bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird.

59:21

And the rest of it is magic. No one ever

59:23

brings out a bird right at the very end. That

59:27

would be real magic. Yeah. Burt,

59:29

how many of the

59:31

like figures do you have? Like you have the one next

59:33

to you. I have

59:35

about 30, 40 of them, something

59:37

like that. Holy hell, Carolyn. Do you,

59:39

do you, you part tank in the

59:41

ventriloquism or you gave it a go

59:44

and you found out you couldn't do

59:46

it or it's something. I really never

59:48

had a tremendous interest. I

59:50

idolized these guys so much when I was growing

59:52

up and I loved the art so

59:55

much that when I became, when I

59:57

had a couple of bucks and had a little success under

59:59

my feet, I was belt, I

1:00:01

found out I could buy them, you know,

1:00:03

the professional ones and so that's what I

1:00:05

did. I actually

1:00:07

have one, Charlie McCarthy, Jerry

1:00:09

Mahoney, the ones that we've been talking about, I have some

1:00:12

of those at home too. Now a lot of

1:00:14

people went out, I was saying this before, most

1:00:16

of the ones, the wooden or the fiberglassy ones,

1:00:18

it's a stick that goes down with levers on

1:00:20

it, right? It's not a

1:00:22

hand like that, so it's actually a stick with little bits that

1:00:24

come out, one bit of the eyebrows. If

1:00:27

I can get to this guy, hold on a minute. I'll

1:00:29

show you if I can get them. What do you call this

1:00:31

guy, Bert? What do you call him? Little Bert. Little

1:00:34

Bert? I'd call him Reynolds. Okay, so

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here you go, see, can you guys see this? You

1:00:42

see there's the lever for the mouth like you were talking

1:00:45

about, Jim? And then look

1:00:47

at the eyes. Everything's

1:00:49

got the stick, do you

1:00:51

see? That's basically

1:00:53

how they work. Yeah, the eyes are

1:00:55

important, except for the jokes. Do

1:00:59

many ventriloquist get carpled tunnel? Probably.

1:01:03

Probably. I

1:01:05

get one of my fingers gets, I get a trigger

1:01:08

finger from playing too much PlayStation every now and again.

1:01:10

I got to go to the doctor and get,

1:01:13

like imagine that, oh no, my career's over,

1:01:15

I broke both me thumbs. Oh no. And

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you, so do you

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use your knowledge for ventriloquism, like

1:01:24

other than the podcast? I mean, do you talk

1:01:27

about it all or are you just, let me

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just study it and keep yourself or? If

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somebody wants to talk about it, I'll talk about it. I

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mean, I have a huge office

1:01:36

in my house downstairs and

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all of the memorabilia from the Springer Show, from

1:01:42

Sally, from, I have Sally's red

1:01:44

glasses, everything's down there along with the dummies

1:01:46

and pictures and all that. So

1:01:48

people come in, it's sort of like a museum,

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they love it. They love to see it. Now

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the young, young, young people will always say the

1:01:55

same thing, this is creepy. You

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don't come down here at night, do you? Well

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this is the thing, my mother collected dolls.

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She was a doll collector and then I

1:02:07

was allegedly a teddy bear collector as a child. This

1:02:09

is something you don't know about me. I was an

1:02:11

arch the file, a collector of teddy bears. And

1:02:15

I wasn't, my mum just decided she wanted a teddy

1:02:17

bear collection as well so she put that onto another

1:02:19

person, right? But she, the whole house

1:02:21

was hoarded full of her mum's shit. The

1:02:25

living room had porcelain fucking dolls

1:02:27

everywhere and there was this one

1:02:29

doll that used to stare at me as I watched

1:02:31

TV and if I was alone in the house to this

1:02:33

day I would put a blanket over its head. My

1:02:37

mum's been dead for years, no one's got

1:02:39

rid of these bloody dolls but my mum

1:02:41

had like an extensive collection of Shirley Temple

1:02:43

dolls and all this type of bullshit that

1:02:46

she thought would be worth a lot of

1:02:48

money but everybody who used to go to

1:02:50

the movies and watch Shirley Temple is fucking

1:02:52

dead, these dolls aren't worth anything anymore. You

1:02:54

have to explain who Shirley Temple is. Yeah,

1:02:56

my mother bought them at the peak for

1:02:58

women her age when they got money to,

1:03:00

you know what I mean? So we had Shirley Temple dolls.

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Are you interested in some Shirley Temple dolls, Bert? I'm

1:03:06

not into Shirley Temple dolls, thank you very much. I

1:03:08

know where you can get someone in chief. He's

1:03:11

obviously plenty creepy enough. And

1:03:16

then famous actors that started as ventriloquists, you mentioned

1:03:18

a couple, right? You said? Yeah,

1:03:20

Ted Knight, who was Ted Baxter on the

1:03:22

Mary Tyler Moore Show and

1:03:25

Don Knotts from the

1:03:27

Andy Griffith Show. Those are the two that stand out in my head

1:03:29

anyway. Ah, cool. Alright,

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this is a part of our show. I'm the drill

1:03:33

sergeant from Full Metal Jacket. What?

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Yeah, he was. That guy? Yeah.

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Are you just making that up? No, no, he was

1:03:40

a very famous ventriloquist. No. He

1:03:43

was? He was just making that up. You're gonna make me nuts

1:03:45

out of my boo boy, I'm gonna have you in there. It

1:03:47

was a good... What was that guy's name?

1:03:49

He was an actual drill sergeant. Of course he wasn't

1:03:51

a fucking ventriloquist. They could have just fed that pot.

1:03:55

It's Arlie Ermey. Arlie Ermey, the ventriloquist.

1:03:57

And I was not looking it up.

1:04:02

This is a part of our show called Dinner Party

1:04:05

Vax. We ask our expert to give us some fact,

1:04:07

obscure, interesting. The audience can use it to impress

1:04:09

people. I think you already used it though, right? Yeah.

1:04:17

It was the Paul Winchell artificial heart. Oh man, that

1:04:19

is a good one. I'm sorry

1:04:21

I blew it. That's okay. Now he still blew,

1:04:23

Jim was very excited about it. He still, as

1:04:26

long as, it's the same effect. It was just

1:04:28

in the middle of the show. That's

1:04:31

a banger. Paul Winchell invented,

1:04:33

it was a famous ventriloquist, but

1:04:36

invented the artificial heart. And I

1:04:38

think that is funny that when you look it up, it's like,

1:04:40

Ventriloquist, oh also, by the way. Oh by the

1:04:42

way. Yeah, yeah. And there's a

1:04:44

lot of lies. When he went into the patent office, it must have been fun.

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What do you mean? This will never work. Are you some

1:04:49

type of dummy? No, but don't do it. He came in

1:04:51

with it. He came in with it. If

1:04:54

I could do ventriloquism, I would have a puppet in my

1:04:56

back pocket all day. It would just be a sock guy.

1:04:58

You could kind of do it. You did pretty good. Yeah,

1:05:00

I have to practice. I don't put enough effort into it.

1:05:04

I thought you were going to be way worse at it. Oh

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no. Okay, maybe you are. You just have to put

1:05:08

his mind to it. Oh, don't go to the other person. Don't go to

1:05:10

the other person. Don't go to the other person. Don't go to the other

1:05:12

person. You were better before. No, you've got to

1:05:14

keep your teeth. You can't go through your teeth. You've got to

1:05:16

do that like, purse smile. So there's a little bit of wind

1:05:18

that goes through, a little bit of wind. Okay. Well,

1:05:21

Jeff. I'm doing fire as soon as I can. I'm doing fire

1:05:23

as soon as I can. Okay. All

1:05:25

right. Well, Jeff. I'm doing

1:05:27

fire as right now. He's just moving his lips, but I'm actually

1:05:29

doing the voice. I think

1:05:32

they do. Fire is the

1:05:34

easiest ventricular gazillion. Okay.

1:05:43

Bert, thanks for being on our podcast. By

1:05:45

the way, you can watch his show that

1:05:47

he's an executive producer of now, Daily Blast

1:05:49

Live, naturally syndicated. With our friend now, Jackson.

1:05:52

With our friend now, Jackson. 76, Mark. He

1:05:55

says Al Jackson is still there. Hey, Jim. Jim, do you get

1:05:57

to Denver at all? I do. I

1:05:59

do. I am performing two shows

1:06:01

at Denver at the Paramount Theatre. I go

1:06:03

to jimjeffries.com and we'll give the actual dates.

1:06:07

Yeah, I will be in Denver. Do

1:06:10

you want tickets? May 3rd and 4th. May

1:06:12

3rd and 4th. I want you to come by the

1:06:15

show and hang with us for a couple of minutes.

1:06:17

What day are the weeks of those? Friday, Saturday? Yeah.

1:06:20

We're on Friday. We're on Friday. If I

1:06:22

come in Thursday night, I'll come and do

1:06:24

the show on Friday. You're in Spokane, I'm

1:06:26

in the negative. Jim, I was in Spokane.

1:06:28

You shouldn't have known Alwood. I know Alwood.

1:06:30

I'd like to see Al again. He

1:06:33

moved away from us a long time

1:06:35

ago and now he's producing, I assume,

1:06:37

a ventriloquist type show. Yeah,

1:06:40

are you there, Al? Al's there. Al's

1:06:43

not in the room. I don't know where the

1:06:45

hell he is. He just left you back there.

1:06:47

Here, I heard him. Hold on. I just threw

1:06:50

my voice. He's over there. There

1:06:52

he is. Al's right here. Good. Take your head

1:06:54

in. There's Al. Hello.

1:06:58

What are you doing? I asked Jim

1:07:00

to come and do the show. And so

1:07:02

hopefully, if we can get you to come in Thursday

1:07:04

night and be with us Friday, that

1:07:07

would be wonderful. We'd

1:07:10

really appreciate it. Stay with me. All

1:07:12

right, I'll stay with you. All

1:07:14

right. That I would

1:07:16

not recommend. Yeah, that would be creepier than a

1:07:18

house full of dummies. I'll tell you. That's right.

1:07:20

That's right. All right, bro. I appreciate you guys.

1:07:22

I appreciate you guys having me on. Yeah, thank

1:07:25

you for being on, bro. Appreciate it, man. All

1:07:27

right, ladies and gentlemen, if you're over at a

1:07:29

party and someone comes up to you and goes,

1:07:32

the artificial in heart was invented by

1:07:34

someone who wanted to ventriloquist. Go,

1:07:36

well, I don't know about that. And walk away.

1:07:42

All right, Bert. Oh, good night, Shane.