It's a podcast talking about  a podcast this episode. Jess and Paul dive into the space faring narrative podcast Wolf 359 created by Gabriel Urbina (starring Zach Valenti, Emma Sherr-Ziarko, Michaela Swee, Scotty Shoemaker, Cecilia Lynn-Jacobs, Zach Libresco, Noah Masur, Michelle Agresti). They talk about what made the show great for them, the ebb and flow of podcast listening, and Paul gets into why he relates to this space faring communications officer.

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