38:00

So, okay, so polling, you could see that,

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some potentially polling catastrophe where they could go

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to him and say, sir,

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you gotta step aside. Is

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the, we've now, it's notable to

38:12

me that Chuck, who there's

38:15

been reporting now backing up

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my favorite source, the Daily Mail, which

38:20

is that Chuck has been saying

38:22

to people that he's open to an alternative if

38:24

Biden shat the bed in the debate, which he

38:26

obviously, you know, shat the bed in an epic

38:29

and historic way. And Chuck has

38:31

not been on television at all in

38:33

this period. Everybody else has been on TV. Chuck

38:35

has put out a paper statement or a Twitter

38:37

statement or whatever, but Chuck's not been anywhere to

38:39

be found. And you saw

38:41

Hakeem Jeffries on Friday, he's

38:44

been a little bit more out front over the weekend,

38:46

being more pro Biden, but on Friday he was like,

38:49

I'm gonna see how he does on North Carolina, I'll

38:51

let you know. I mean, those

38:53

two guys who are totally obsessed

38:55

by money for natural

38:57

reasons because of their status within

39:00

the caucus, is there a world where,

39:02

I guess David, as someone who knows Biden well, does

39:04

that weigh with him more? He's not gonna listen to

39:06

Obama and Clinton, which is my view of why they

39:08

put those statements out, because they knew that if they

39:10

didn't put those statements out, if

39:12

they stayed silent, Biden would be more likely

39:14

to run, it's the sale of the ticket.

39:17

They're buying him time, right? Listen,

39:19

Joe Biden is a creature of the

39:22

United States Senate. That's where he spent

39:25

much of his life. And

39:28

I think he probably would be

39:31

sensitive to arguments about the House and

39:33

Senate. And the

39:35

prospect of Trump with a 55

39:37

seat Senate and

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the House is, that's

39:43

horrifying. Yeah.

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That's my, I'm definitely on that plane to

39:49

Portugal in that circumstance. Yeah, and there'll be

39:51

a big trail behind you. Pelosi,

39:54

because she's kind of a peer, she

39:56

retired. She's tough, she's

39:58

culturally from his world.