Domino Risch uses her new found freedom to discuss the limitations of relying on a single place to get work done. Sharing a hot drink over numerous time zones, she chats with Mark Eltringham about what firms get wrong about hybrid and in-office work, the best places to have ideas and how hard the modern world makes it to achieve flow states. They discuss the potential of anthropology to change the way we work. And what the current news about Deutsche Bank's insistence people come into the office on Mondays and Fridays tells us about the avoidable tensions that exist in the tedious debate about remote and office based work.