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Next Chapter Podcasts

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Previously

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on In the Cards

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Jim, from now on Gil is in charge of everything

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on my account. Understood? I'll see

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you boys bright and early. Let's

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make some commercials! At some

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point tonight, you and I will

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give in to obvious temptation

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and kiss each other. Things

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have taken an unexpected

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turn. Hey up there universe! Tea

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with the pretty girl. What do you

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think of that? Your life's course

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is unchangeable like the

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flight of an arrow. What I'm trying to say is that

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I'm really sorry I stretched the truth when I read your

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cards. I just wanted you to be happy. He's

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fighting his fate and that is not

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wise. Destiny is destiny

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Nadia. The

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hermit wanders on the darkened path searching for answers. He

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travels alone, forced to contemplate

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the realities of

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his journey.

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Next Chapter Podcasts presents In the Cards In

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the Cards Episode 5

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Modes of Possibility For

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the best listening experience, be sure to

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use headphones or earbuds. Where's

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the sign and cheat? I love your new butt, Allie. How much was

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it? It's called intermittent fasting.

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I really want to direct. It's been waiting forever.

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I hate how good you look, you sexy bitch. Rando

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and Smite Advertising, how may I...

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I'm sorry, just one moment, please. Ladies,

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please keep it down over there! Sorry

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about that. I am a horde of actresses

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in my waiting room, primping. Anyway,

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how may I direct your call? Please

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hold. Hi, I'm here for the audition.

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Do you have any Kleenex? Heh!

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Uh, ew. Just take the whole box and go

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over there, please. Thank you.

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Hey, Linda. Gil,

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you're late. Yeah, sorry. My bus got a flat. Your

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actresses are driving me nuts.

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We broke up. He was cheating on me with my brother. Oh

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my god, you poor thing. Wow. Look

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at all that lip gloss. Get

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things moving, Gil. I just want my damn space back. Sure.

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Hello, ladies. Thanks for coming in this morning.

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We'll get rolling in just a few minutes. Are you the director?

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Yes, I'm Gil Garson. Hi.

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I just have a tiny little cold, but it'll clear

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up soon, so you just need to imagine

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my voice less stuffy. Quick, suck it up to the

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director, Rachel. You're interrupting...

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That one flucked out of drama school. I did not.

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I quit because I got cast as a company member at

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the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, Rachel.

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I'm classically trained. Like anyone gives a crap

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about theater.

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Well, hello, Mr. Director. Hey,

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Lex. Made it through the gauntlet,

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huh? Barely. I brought donuts.

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And I have even bigger news than

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that. I fell in love

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last night, and don't ask me with who,

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because it's a secret.

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Fine. I'll only say she's

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a sophisticated woman who co-owns

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a psychic shop with her niece, Nadia. Oh, god.

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Yes, it's Bella. You got it out of

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me. But look, we're just taking it day

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by day, you know?

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No labels. She likes to live in the

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moment. She's so wise

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and mature, like my mom. No comment.

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And how'd your little date go? Eh, it

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wasn't technically a date. We just drank

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tea and coffee. If you paid, it was

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a date.

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My

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kid also has a crooked nose because

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he got hit in the face with baseball last

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summer playing Little League. You see, Gil,

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the thing is, the boy in my

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imagination is a terrible athlete,

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but he's still convinced he's gonna

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play for the Phillies one day. He's

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also wearing his dad's Fitbit that

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he swiped in the morning while his dad was in the shower because

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he's always wondered how many

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steps it was to the swimming hole

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from his house. And now that he's got

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that Fitbit on his tiny little

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wrist, he'll know for sure. You

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do have quite the imagination, Lex. Specificity

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is the key to artistic expression. Right,

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what about the dog? My kid's dog is

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a cocker spaniel. Mine is a one-eyed

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wolfhound

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that my kid named Jeff

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after his favorite guy from the Wiggles. And

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he has a limp, so he always turns to the right. The

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point I'm trying to make is that we

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both had ideas of the same thing. A boy

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with a dog on a road.

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But there was such obvious variation.

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Uh-huh. And

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that's what's fascinating, Lex. You

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do see what that means about the pliability

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of reality, right? Gil,

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I have no idea what we're talking about, but

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if we're shooting this commercial tomorrow, we better get

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to it. You're right. Sorry, sorry.

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Let's do it. Bring in the first victim.

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Hello,

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ladies. Thanks for coming in

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today. You all look great. We'll

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get things started with... Helga?

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Yeah. Ah,

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there you are. Step right in. Stand

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over there and grab a cheese curl. Yeah. Gil,

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this is Helga. She'll be first on your list. Helga

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Eich Wolfenbüttel. I think I

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just pulled a tongue muscle. It's German, Gil.

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Thanks, Lex. I believe it's pronounced Eich

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Wolfenbüttel. Your accent.

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Very nice. I picked up a few

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things backpacking through Bavaria, which is

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also where I developed my love of schnitzel.

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Your resume says you trained at Munich

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International School of Acting and Website Design.

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Yeah, I am also expert in animal

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husbandry. Good to know. But

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to the task, Helga. Yeah. The line

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we need you to read is on the board right

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by the camera. But before you say

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the line, I want you to pretend you're

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at a big party. Imagine tons

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of young hip people there, everyone's having fun,

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and you're the person they all love to be around.

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You're playful and sexy, confident,

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OK?

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Yeah. I feel free to improvise a

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few lines to the party gores first, and

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turn to the camera with a cheese curl, wink,

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and say the line written on the board, all right?

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Let's do this. OK,

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camera's rolling. And action.

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Gee, what a lovely party, what fun I

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am having, and what everyone else is having

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with the cheese curls here at this party

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that I am in charge of. Mm,

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how yummy. For a good time, snack

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on this. Un sin.

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Wow. OK, really

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good, Helga. But why don't

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we take another run at it with a few notes?

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First, can you wink with just one

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eye this time?

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I can only wink with two eyes. We

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call that a blink. Then I must blink. OK,

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that's fine. My other big note is

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this time through, I want you to really,

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really feel the party going on around

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you, OK? Feel the youthful abandon,

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the fun. Yeah, the first time felt

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more like a sentencing hearing after a

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murder verdict.

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Yeah, I see. I think having

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to do these improvisational lines beforehand

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made me nervous. Let's skip the

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improv lines then and just concentrate

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on the tag line. For a good time,

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snack on this.

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This I can do. How about I

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play some party sound effects so she can get into character?

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Great idea, Lex. Sound effects rolling?

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Yeah, these party sounds

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help. Very good. And

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action. Yes, feel

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the party, Helga. Loosen up those shoulders.

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Good, yeah. I am really feeling

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this now. What frolic and gaiety.

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That's it. Look, there's Brandy over

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there dancing. And there's Ethan

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eating cheese curls by the handful. What

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a great time. And you're in charge.

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Now, wink right into camera. I must

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blink. I mean blink? Then give

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us the line.

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For a good time, snack on

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this. Thanks

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for coming in today. Next!

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And action. For a good time,

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snack on this. Next! For a

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good time, snack on this. Next!

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Are these vegan? Next! For

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a good time, snack on this. Next! I

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like your hair. Next! Hey

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guys! Whoa! Where'd that trash basket

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come from? Are you drunk? Oh god, I'm gonna

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be sick. Someone hold my hair.

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Next! I love your face

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tattoo. It's not a tattoo jerk. Next!

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Snack on this, biatch.

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Thank you so much. Bye. Lex.

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They're all so terrible. I know. It's

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the universe, isn't it? Of course it's

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the universe. Pissed you took out the psychic

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girl. And to get back at you at sending the shittiest

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actresses in the Philadelphia talent pool to doom

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your career. This is way worse than

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getting shat on by birds. Why

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are we whispering? So the universe doesn't

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hear us?

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That's what I thought. Call in the next actress.

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Can you grab that, Nadia? I'm cleaning

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my crystal ball. Sure.

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Popova's psychic greetings. This is Nadia. Hello,

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Mrs. Ersoy. How are

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you? Mrs. Ersoy. She'll

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be worried about her daughter's marriage. Let me check. Bella,

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can you see Mrs. Ersoy today at three? I told

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the daughter two years ago her path was

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with the engineer's student, not the mechanic.

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Did she listen? No.

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Bella can squeeze you in. I don't

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know why people... come when they don't take advice.

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Great, we'll see you at three then. Bye-bye. Mrs.

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Erso's daughter is pretty, but like this

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candle, a bit dim.

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Can you pass me that tarot deck? Of

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course, here you go. Why

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are you shuffling? I don't know, bored.

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You feel like reading my spread? It's

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been quite a while since you let me do

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that. If you don't want to, you don't.

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No, I will read. I would love to.

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Do

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you have any specific questions

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you'd like to ask the tarot? I'm

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mostly curious about my present.

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Is there happiness? As you

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wish.

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Shuffle and concentrate.

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Knock out the deck. Good.

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And we begin. Tell

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me. The magician

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carved, as in past reading, sits in your future.

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The magician is a learned man, a healer. He represents

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the doctor, I know. The doctor will

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be in an inescapable infatuation. I'd

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like to tell you to steer away from this man,

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but the pull will be too strong and discord

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will follow. My questions were

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about the present, Bella, not the future.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yes,

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the

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present, let us see.

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The fool sits in that

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spot. Interesting.

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Not a card I fully understand for

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you in the present. Because?

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You are an old

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soul, wise beyond

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your years, and the fool represents

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innocence, lightness, a disregard

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for life's perils. Oh,

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Nadia. What? You're being

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stupid. What are you? It is

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obviously not a reflection of you,

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but a reference to that walking accident.

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That gill. No. Luckless

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Gil, who makes Job seem like he skipped

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through life with a rabbit's foot in his pocket. The

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Fool card means nothing, Bella. And

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beside the Fool sits the Two of Swords,

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which clearly points to an inner struggle

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within you

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at this moment. Don't get confused,

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Nadia. I'm not. Why

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are you looking at me like that? Did you know

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he's literally fighting the

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heavens? He was kidding. I've

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heard tale of men like him from the old

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times who fought their destinies. A dangerous game,

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Nadia. I

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can't stay cooped up here all the time. Then

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take up tennis. He's fun to

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be around. He makes me laugh, and

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maybe fighting back against the ties that bind you isn't

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so stupid after all. If a person

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decides to fight the universe, believe

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me, Nadia, the universe will fight back.

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And the Fool is not only a danger

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to himself, but also to

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those around him. He'd

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be wise to keep your

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distance.

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Okay. Come on in,

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miss. Stand on the X and

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tell us your name. Hi,

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I'm Monica Perez. Okay,

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Monica. You're our last auditioner.

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No pressure, but all the others sucked. Oh,

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God. And if you also

15:19

suck, just know it's not your fault. It's

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mine. I don't understand. You

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see, Monica, we're supposed to shoot this

15:26

spot tomorrow, but the universe

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hates Gil and has purposefully

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sent him options that can only sink his campaign. And my career.

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It's a long story, but it all boils down

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to there being a complete absence of free

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will in the world.

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I can't tell if you guys are kidding. Oh,

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I wish we were. But,

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to the task. Let's get

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this over with, shall we? We want you to

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pretend you're at a party orchestrating the fun.

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After a moment, hold up a cheese curl. Wink,

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if you can. For some diabolical

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reason, no one could win.

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So, wink or blink

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or whatever, then say the line written

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on the board. Should I improvise anything before

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the line? Sure, whatever, it doesn't

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matter. Rolling camera, cueing

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party sound effects. And

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action.

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Hey you! And

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you, and you! Don't

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look so glum! Follow me and

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join the fun! For

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a good time, snack on this.

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Oh

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my god. Was it okay? That

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was it. That was it! She

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even winked! Gail, did you see her wink? It's

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the best wink I've ever seen! Please

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tell us you're free tomorrow.

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I got the job just like that? Just like

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that. Oh my god, oh my god!

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Lex, give her all the info. I'm

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late for class. What class are you taking? Intro

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to metaphysics, which is awful, but you're fantastic.

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See you in the morning. Ow! The

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door opens the other way, Gail. Thanks.

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See you on set!

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So if happiness is a primary

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aim of humanity, how do we find

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it? Philosopher Pharrell

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sang, happiness is the

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truth. A deep

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thought, actually, by Pharrell. Ow.

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And here he is, Gail Garson,

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everyone, with an entrance reminiscent

17:35

of Kramer, tripping into Jerry's apartment. I'm

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sorry I'm late, Professor Towers. Only

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by an hour. More trouble with elevator

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buttons and buses.

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And some other unavoidables. You

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missed the main lecture, but it'll be posted on my portal.

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Pick yourself up and grab a seat. Thanks.

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We were talking about ethics and

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how they coincide with happiness, virtue

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and morality, which bring

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brings us to what I'd like you all to think about

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for next class, which is, Carnady's

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famous plank question.

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It goes like this. There's

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been a shipwreck. Two

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men are lost at sea, treading water,

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sure to die, when they see a plank

18:21

of wood floating in the near

18:23

distance. This plank

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is substantial enough to keep one man

18:28

afloat, but only one. The

18:31

first man swims to the plank and grabs

18:34

on, saving himself. But then the

18:36

second man arrives, wrestles

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the plank away from the first man, who

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in short order sinks in the sea and drowns.

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Eventually, the second man is rescued.

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So class,

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were the second man's actions just,

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or should he be tried for murder? Does

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the man who was closer to the plank have

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more of a right to life simply

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because fate put him nearer?

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Or does the second man have more of a

19:05

right because he is a better fighter?

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What do you think, Gil? I

19:13

guess I'd want to know more about the two men.

19:15

Like, did they have families, their

19:17

occupations? So some men's

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lives are worth more because of what they do? No.

19:23

Your question implies yes. Is

19:26

a nurse more deserving of life than a cashier,

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or a father worth more than a bachelor?

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Maybe parents are worth

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more because they're responsible for others.

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For kicks, let's say there are two childless

19:40

men vying for the plank.

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We'll say one man is, oh, I

19:45

don't know, a college professor, and

19:47

the other works in the advertising

19:49

business.

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Just

19:52

you and me, Gil, out

19:54

in the ocean, one lives, one

19:57

dies. Would

19:59

you kill? to hold on to life, Gil.

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If life is precious, can murder

20:04

be virtuous?

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And what if it wasn't a plank of wood, but

20:09

a kidney they both needed? Gil

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and I need a kidney to

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live, class!

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Who gets it? And why? Think

20:19

it through, people, and write out your

20:21

reasoning to hand in next class. And

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we have a few minutes. Does anyone have questions

20:27

on anything we've covered?

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Plato's Cave, Aristotle on Truth.

20:32

Will the midterm be multiple choice? That's

20:35

not a question on philosophy. Follow-up question,

20:37

Professor. Philosophically

20:39

speaking, do you think the midterm

20:41

will be short answers and essays or multiple choice?

20:44

I told you before, grades are

20:46

stupid. Just show up and you get an A.

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Does anyone have questions on philosophy?

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Professor, I have one. It's

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about modal realism. Haha.

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Modal realism. That's

21:02

not on the syllabus. It's an essay

21:04

in the textbook. The textbook is 1,500 pages

21:06

long. How does one happen

21:09

upon modal realism? I

21:11

was flipping around. It caught my attention.

21:14

Well, modal realism

21:16

is more of a 300-level discussion, but what

21:18

kind of teacher would I be to piss on the interest

21:21

of an inquiring 100-level student, right?

21:23

But let's catch the others up to speech,

21:25

shall we? Modal realism, class,

21:28

is an idea conceived by late 20th-century

21:31

philosopher David Kellogg-Lewis

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expounding on the initial thoughts of Gottfried

21:36

Leibniz, both of whom were probably

21:39

tripping on magic mushrooms. Haha. But,

21:42

girl,

21:44

you read the essay. Explain the basics.

21:47

Modal realism, go. If

21:51

I understood it right, it's the concept that we all accept that

21:53

other worlds are possible in the universe.

21:56

Dude, totally. I saw like three

21:58

UFOs last summer.

21:59

Thank you, Jesper. Keep going, Gil.

22:03

And if other worlds or modes are possible,

22:05

it follows that there could be another world somewhere,

22:07

or even many worlds that are very

22:10

much like this one.

22:11

And? And if that

22:13

is so, there

22:15

could be a person on those other possible

22:17

worlds who is very much like any of us here.

22:19

For instance, there could be another person

22:22

who is very much like me, yet different. And

22:25

those different versions of Gil Garcin

22:27

could be substantial or very small. Differences

22:30

could be objective improvements to the me

22:32

of this world, or I suppose the opposite

22:35

of that. And if that is so, then perhaps

22:37

the Gil Garcins on those other worlds don't

22:39

miss the bus or trip through doors.

22:41

If Lewis's ideas are true, it's not only possible

22:44

that some Gil Garcins on other worlds never

22:47

miss the bus,

22:48

it's completely logical. In fact,

22:50

this may be the only world where Gil Garcin

22:53

misses a bus, or constantly cracks

22:55

the screens of his iPhone. What the hell are they

22:57

talking

22:57

about? How fucking idea. The problem

22:59

is, while famed David Keller

23:01

Lewis of Princeton University and Magic Mushrooms

23:04

asserted there were many possible worlds

23:06

out there to speculate about, you and

23:08

I can only experience our existence

23:10

in this world. But according to Lewis, those

23:12

other modal worlds are also real.

23:15

And we can speculate about them. And we

23:17

can speculate about the variations

23:19

of who we might be in those worlds.

23:22

For example? Well, on other worlds,

23:24

the other Gil Garcins might be a quarter inch taller.

23:27

Or left-handed. Or, more consequentially,

23:29

the other Gil Garcins might have different fates.

23:32

They might not burn their toast.

23:34

Let

23:42

me illuminate you, class.

23:45

Philosophy is lightning

23:48

charged. Ideas and

23:50

truth, when realized, can throw

23:52

people for a loop. It can fuck

23:55

them up. Socrates fucked

23:57

up so many people with ideas that

23:59

the city...

23:59

state of Athens executed

24:02

him. Question in the front row. Uh,

24:04

professor, class like ended like

24:06

two minutes ago? Who cares about the measurement

24:09

of time when we're talking about ideas? Live

24:11

in the moment, Jasper!

24:14

You see, your classmate Gil became

24:16

a bit on Maud the first day we met when

24:18

he realized the truth. Isn't that

24:20

right, Gil? I wouldn't say on Maud.

24:23

Remember the seemingly innocuous

24:25

assignment of defining our own fates?

24:28

My fates rock harder than Led Zeppelin,

24:31

one of you wrote. My fate is to make my

24:33

parents proud, another to become a millionaire,

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etc, etc. And who cares? And who cares? But

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unlike most of you, Gil took

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the assignment seriously, which I commend.

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You see, Gil can

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think deeply. Would

24:49

you like to share your self-assessed

24:51

fate with the class, Gil? No,

24:54

thanks. I can

24:56

see why you're attracted by this idea

24:58

of modal realism, because

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in your imagination, there's a Gil

25:03

Garson, one of those other possible

25:05

worlds, who is fated to be the president,

25:08

to be the MVP in the Super Bowl. To

25:10

be a winner, right?

25:12

Baby. So what's your question? Ask

25:15

away. My question is, if

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the idea of modal realism has

25:20

merit, then anything is

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truly possible, right? Yes.

25:25

But what is possible in this world is solely dependent

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on the causes and effects that occur only

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in this world. You can't replace

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the causes and effects of another world with those

25:35

of this one.

25:36

My idea is that you can. And

25:38

we all know ideas are real. Logic

25:41

is also real, and there's only one thing that

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is possible in this moment, on this world.

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And that one thing is what is happening right

25:48

now, because it is the sum of

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the causes and effects of this world.

25:53

And what is happening to the other Gil Garsens

25:56

and Peter Towerses on the other

25:58

possible worlds is the result of the...

25:59

Those are the world's causes and effects.

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But, professor, I get it. It's

26:05

like that Bizarro World episode of the Seinfeld

26:08

show, where he meets another Jerry, George,

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and Kramer, who are the same,

26:11

but completely different. Thank

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you again, Jasper, for your insights.

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To sum up, just like stupid

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TV shows, modal realism

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is a tight exercise of imagination.

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And while ideas are real,

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that doesn't mean they are actual.

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For instance, if you imagine Jennifer

26:34

Lawrence and I are naked on a Hawaiian

26:36

beach, madly in love,

26:38

does that make it real, Gil? It

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may not be real in this moment, but

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however unlikely, it

26:47

is still possible, Professor Towers.

26:51

Well, then I guess I should DM her on Instagram,

26:53

huh? Mm-hmm. This

26:56

was a fun diversion, Gil. But

26:58

stick to the syllabus. Class

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dismissed.

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["The Star-Spangled Banner"] Stop!

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Stop! Stop! Stop!

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Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!

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Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!

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Stop! Stop!

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Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!

27:24

Stop! Stop! Stop!

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Guy hates me. He basically

27:29

asked the class to write a paper on who

27:31

they'd rather see die, me or him.

27:34

They might pick you to live. He's already

27:36

committed to giving everyone an A this semester.

27:39

Oh, in that case, it's been great knowing you. Are

27:41

we set for tomorrow? We're ready.

27:44

That Monica actress girl killed it today, right?

27:46

Saved our asses. And listen

27:48

to this, she told me she didn't even have an appointment.

27:51

What? She wasn't supposed to be there.

27:53

She overheard someone talking about the audition and just

27:55

showed up. How about she's a modal

27:58

realist too? Nothing.

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Look, I don't want you taking public transport tomorrow.

28:04

Too chancy. I'll pick you up by seven and get

28:06

you to the chute. Great. And I'll

28:08

bring breakfast. I don't want you getting near anything dangerous

28:11

like knives, cranberry juice, or toasters.

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We're gonna crush this thing tomorrow, Lex. Yeah.

28:17

Destiny be damned. Good

28:19

night. Good night. What,

28:26

Lex? Gil. Hi. It's Nadia. Hi.

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Ow! Ow! Damn it! Are

28:37

you okay? Gil?

28:38

Give me a second. I tripped and

28:41

the phone flew under the couch. Keep

28:44

talking so I can find you.

28:45

Okay. I'm

28:47

over here, Gil. Come

28:50

and get me. I see you

28:52

now. One more sec. Hey,

28:55

I'm back.

28:57

Are you okay? I

29:00

walked into the coffee table.

29:02

As soon as we get off the phone, I'm gonna throw that

29:04

thing out the window.

29:07

I know it's late,

29:09

but I was wondering how your auditions went.

29:13

It was a crazy day, but

29:15

it was great. We shoot the spot tomorrow.

29:18

Exciting. And,

29:22

you know, I wanted to thank you for making

29:24

me go out yesterday. I had fun.

29:27

You're fun to be around, Gil. So

29:30

I was thinking, maybe

29:33

we could do more fun things? Yeah? I

29:36

don't want to be a shut-in. Well,

29:42

there's a little carnival this weekend at

29:44

St. Gregory's Church. Games,

29:47

cotton candy, cheesy rides. Who

29:49

doesn't love the tilt of whirl? I'd

29:51

have to pop some Dramamine for that, but I'm willing. Great.

29:55

Then it's a date. Oh

29:58

my God! That

30:00

lightning lit up the whole sky? Did you see that?

30:03

Yeah. And

30:05

there goes the power in my apartment.

30:08

Really? The

30:11

universe doesn't like us

30:13

making plans. Why

30:16

are you whispering? So

30:18

it doesn't hear me. That

30:21

makes sense. Yeah,

30:23

it's definitely pissed.

30:26

You've got

30:28

a big day tomorrow. I should let you go. No,

30:31

it's okay. Let's talk. What

30:34

should we talk about? Well,

30:37

in my metaphysics class, I heard

30:39

about this guy who lives on a faraway

30:42

world in a different galaxy.

30:45

Interesting. What's this guy's name? Coincidentally,

30:48

his name is also Gil Garson. Really? And

30:52

he runs his own advertising firm.

30:54

So advertising's a big occupation

30:57

on this other world? This other world is

30:59

very similar to our world with only the slightest

31:01

bits of variation. How interesting.

31:05

And there's a smart, funny, beautiful

31:08

girl there who looks just like

31:09

you. Really? Is

31:12

this girl a fortune teller? She is,

31:15

but she's not a shut-in. Oh, good.

31:18

She's out all the time, which is bad for her

31:20

business, but good for her fun quotient.

31:23

Another interesting thing about this world is everyone

31:26

knows how to wink. Now

31:30

that you mention it, I haven't seen

31:33

anyone actually wink.

31:55

In the Cards was written and directed by

31:57

Kevin Henderson. The cast is as follows.

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Connor Radliff as Gil. Steven

32:03

Boyer as Lex. Lila

32:05

Robbins as Bella. Jamie-Ann

32:07

Romero as Nadia. Chikwudi

32:10

Iwuji as Professor Peter Towers. Robert

32:13

Cuccioli as Jim. Joanna

32:15

Glushack as Catherine Corker, Helga,

32:17

and others. Mari Sandoval

32:20

as Clea, and others. Chris

32:22

Henry Coffey as Bryson, and others. Nancy

32:25

Rodriguez as Monica, and others. Delphi

32:28

Harrington as Mrs. Tasiopoulos, and others.

32:32

Michael Goodfriend as Robert, and others. Additional

32:35

voices performed by Amy Molloy, Gigi

32:38

Henderson, Declan Henderson, Adam

32:40

Aris Gutierrez, and Courtney Rosemont.

32:43

Casting by the Telsey office, Karen

32:45

Castle, CSA. Original

32:47

music composition, sound design, and mix

32:50

by Shane Redig. Sound engineering

32:53

by Sadaharu Yagi. Mix

32:55

engineer and dialogue editor, Larry

32:57

Walsh and Robert McNabb. Podcast

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mastering by Greg Cortes

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at New Monkey Studio. Coordinating

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producer, Transcend

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Streaming, Kira Bowie, and Leanna

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Keys. Executive producer,

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