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Shamsa hasn't been seen in public since the
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day her father's men captured her on a
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street in England and she was flown
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back to Dubai in a private jet. Pictures
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of other members of Dubai's royal family
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show up on social media and in
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magazines that cover royals. You
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can see Sheikh Mohammed's wives and sons
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and daughters participating in Olympic events or
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going skydiving or watching horses race
1:04
at Ascot, but not Shamsa. Shamsa's
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sister Latifah has said in writings and
1:10
recordings that after Shamsa was caught, she
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was kept drugged and she was
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watched constantly. Latifah wasn't allowed
1:17
to see her. As
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the months went by, it became clear to Latifah
1:21
that no one from the outside world was coming
1:23
to help. So two
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years after Shamsa was abducted and brought back
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to Dubai, Latifah decided
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to take matters into her own hands.
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I decided I'm going to escape. I'm
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going to leave UAE. I'm going to find a lawyer
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in another country. Like I'm going
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to go to Oman. I'm going to just go there and I'm
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going to find a lawyer or something and I'm going to help
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Shamsa. And the worst case scenario, if they catch me, they're going
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to put me with her. I'm going to be in prison with
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her so at least I can see her and I'm happy and
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she has her sister with her. In
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2002, when she was just 16, Latifah
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made her first attempt. New
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Yorker obtained Princess Lucky Says written account
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of what happened next. An
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escape from my mother's house in the early
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hours of June. Fifteen Two thousand and Two.
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I used a letter to scale. The Wall of
2:13
the Good and I was wearing a black
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to stash and had a large sections on
2:17
top. Despite the heat, I didn't want to
2:19
be recognized as a girl or draw attention
2:21
to myself. I was wearing pants and a
2:24
nice and blue gray sketches sees. A
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cut my hair. Very sure. maybe one inch of
2:28
the harem I had remained. I
2:31
began walking the dog streets looking for a
2:33
taxi. I remember the driver
2:35
said there are you going mom and my
2:37
heart sank despite my outfit and. Shabbiness. I
2:40
still that like a doll. Everything was
2:42
so new I'd never been in a
2:44
taxi. Or outside alone. I
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was in an area. Close to them on. He dropped
2:50
me off on a street. I
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could see the night was disappearing. And
2:54
the sunrise was curious. I
2:57
think I had a slim. I also had a
2:59
nice it would be fun than your knuckles. I
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also remember having wire cutters with me and
3:05
using it to go through a sense. I
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remember walking on the sand narrow road, Then
3:10
a big army car came up to
3:12
me and many camouflage outfits told me
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to stop. Soon.
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Costs. It, She was
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just. It's
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the story of why the women in Sigma from.
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Had been Ross's family keep trying
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to run away and what happens
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to them when they do. This
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is episode to. Escape.
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Study. Blake. Piece together the teeth a story
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from letters. The Princess route. Along
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with audio and video recordings and interviews
3:56
with people in her life. Society.
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Tell me what happened. next after these
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men catch Latifah. Latifah
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was taken home where she was brutally
4:06
beaten by her father's guards. There's
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a detail in her account of this I find
4:10
really striking, which is that her
4:12
mother was there during this beating. She
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remembered that her mother had a full face
4:16
of makeup on and she was wearing this
4:18
frosty coloured lilac lipstick and
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Latifah figured that her mother must have been expecting her
4:23
father to visit because she was all dressed up that
4:25
way. And her
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mother watched as Latifah was beaten until
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blood poured out of her nose. And
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my father is the right hand man, put me in
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prison. Yeah,
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they put me in prison and they tortured me. She
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was taken to a prison in the desert
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called Alawe'ah and she'd hoped that she'd be
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placed with a chamois but she wasn't. She
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was held in a solitary cell and sometimes
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in complete darkness. She remembered
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that she had a filthy bloodstained
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mattress and she wasn't
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given any soap or toothbrush, she had
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no clean clothes. And she remembered
5:02
night after night that she was yanked from her
5:04
bed and dragged away to be beaten. She talked
5:06
about how the guards beat her feet with a
5:08
heavy wooden cane so badly that all the bones
5:10
in her feet were shattered and she couldn't walk
5:12
and she had to drag herself to the toilet
5:14
and drink from a tap on the floor. They
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told me that your father told us to
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beat you until we kill you. That's
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his orders, your father's orders. Your
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father, the ruler of Dubai,
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that's what he said. Back
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in her cell Latifah remembered shoving her
5:38
mangled feet into her sketches hoping that
5:40
they'd act as some kind of a cast. I
5:43
should say that Sheikh Mohammed's attorneys deny that
5:45
he imprisoned or mistreated Latifah. And
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then after about a year
5:50
in prison Latifah was suddenly released
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and when she got back to her mother's house she showered
5:55
again and again. There was
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warm water, there was soap, there was a towel.
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There was toothbrushes, there was clothes, I couldn't
6:02
believe it. But she wasn't
6:04
out for long. After about
6:06
a week, she suddenly broke down. She just
6:08
screamed over and over again that she wanted
6:11
to see her sister, Shamsa. She
6:13
was sedated and sent back to prison. And
6:16
this time, they held her there for more than two
6:18
years. When she finally got out, she
6:20
was 19. Did
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Latifah realize she was risking that kind of punishment
6:27
when she ran away? Well,
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she certainly realized that defiance from women was
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not going to be tolerated in her family.
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And she knew, of course, what had happened to her
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sister, Shamsa. And she had another lesson
6:38
in just how risky defying her father could
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be. From watching what happened
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to another princess named Bouchara. Bouchara
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was a prominent member of Dubai's royal family.
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At one point, she was basically the first lady
6:53
of Dubai. She was married
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to the man who was the ruler of
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Dubai before Sheikh Mohammed, his older brother, Sheikh
7:00
Muktoum. So she was Princess Latifah's
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aunt? Exactly. Bouchara
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had married into Dubai's royal family very
7:07
young. She was still a teenager
7:09
when she married Sheikh Muktoum, who was almost 30
7:11
years older. In 2000, which
7:13
was the same year Shamsa escaped, Bouchara
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went to London with her three young
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sons. And she made some pretty
7:20
bold moves. She gave an
7:22
interview to Hello! magazine. They ran a whole spread
7:24
of photos of her in which
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she declared that women should have more rights.
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And she said that she wanted the women in her country
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to have the courage to show what they could
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do. Not to be shy, not to be timid.
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And these are inflammatory pronouncements for the wife
7:39
of the then ruler. Her
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behaviour obviously crossed a major line because
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in the spring of 2000, Shaker Bouchara
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was kidnapped. Kidnapped? Yeah,
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so we now have another Emirati woman who
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was kidnapped from the United Kingdom in the year of
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2000. This was just
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a few months before Shamsa was kidnapped. And
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it's another occasion, by the way, when the British also... totally
8:00
look the other way and allow this to happen. So
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Bouchard thought that she was taking a trip to Paris
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with her husband to go and watch the horse racing,
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and she got on his private jet, but when she
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got on it turned out she wasn't going to France
8:12
for the races, she was being taken back to Dubai.
8:14
And at the same time a bunch of Emirati
8:16
guards showed up to take her sons. Their
8:19
nanny called the police, and police tracked
8:21
them to the airport and they stormed
8:23
onto the runway, surrounded the jet and
8:25
stopped it from leaving. So
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Dubai authorities now have this major problem, like
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the British police are holding up the ruler's
8:32
plane. So they get on
8:34
the phone to their ambassador, the ambassador
8:36
to the UK, and they tell him get
8:39
the police to get out of the way and
8:41
let that plane take off. And so he picks
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up the phone to Britain's ambassador to UAE, a
8:45
guy called Patrick Nixon. In
8:47
the middle of the night, the
8:49
UAE ambassador to London called me
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and said, I believe I'll be
8:54
there. Patrick Nixon is retired now, but when I
8:56
phoned him he still remembered getting this call about
8:58
the standoff at the airport. The
9:01
ambassador wanted me to get in touch with the
9:03
police and say, tell them to clear
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off. And I
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said, I can't possibly tell the
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police what to do. The police have every
9:13
right to do what they want to do.
9:15
And he was pretty cross with me and
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that was the end of it. This
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is a kind of rare moment in this story
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where a British official says, no, I'm
9:25
not going to do that. Like Patrick Nixon says, I'm
9:27
not going to help you. If you've got a problem, you can take it
9:30
up with the foreign office. And so as far as we
9:32
know, the ambassador then did call the foreign office. And
9:34
the next thing that happened was lo and behold,
9:36
the plane was indeed allowed to take off. I
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know that that wife was
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then locked up in a
9:44
villa in Dubai for a very
9:46
long time. One
9:48
source with close ties to the royal family told
9:50
me they made her house prisoner
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and they would just keep drugging her with
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tranquilizers to say that she's crazy. And
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then in 2006, Bouchra's
10:00
husband, Sheikh Mount Tum, the ruler
10:02
of Dubai, died, and his
10:04
brother, Sheikh Mohammed, came to power. And
10:07
Sheikh Mohammed is Latifa's father? Exactly.
10:10
And soon after he ascended, Bouchra suddenly
10:12
died. She
10:15
was only 34 years old, and
10:17
no official statement was ever made by the
10:20
Dubai royal family about her death. No explanation
10:22
was given. Rumours were
10:24
circulated that she'd somehow died in her sleep. While
10:27
Latifa believed firmly that her father had
10:29
had his brother's wife killed. After
10:32
a long time, he killed her. One
10:34
of his wives. He killed her. Everyone knows about
10:37
it. The Moroccan one? I
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think she just talked to much
10:42
and he felt threatened by her, so
10:44
he just killed her. Sheikh
10:50
Mohammed's lawyers deny this, but Latifa's account
10:53
of Bouchra's death was supported by two
10:55
sources close to the royal family. One
10:58
of them told me, quote, they had no
11:00
mercy. They killed her because she was
11:02
a problem for them. She was a
11:04
strong woman who would stand for her rights. A
11:07
former member of the Sheikh's personal staff told
11:09
me she was killed off. Here
11:12
one minute, gone the next. Latifa
11:15
said in a letter to a friend that Bouchra
11:17
had been beaten to death by one of the
11:19
same guards who'd cain her in prison. After
11:22
Bouchra died, Latifa's mother said to her,
11:25
see what could have happened to you. You're
11:27
lucky you're alive. What
11:34
I'm not quite understanding about all
11:36
these stories, Shamsa, Latifa, Bouchra, is
11:39
the why. What is the
11:41
reason for kidnapping these women and then maybe
11:43
even killing one of them? I
11:46
think what happens to Bouchra is this really
11:48
chilling example of what happens to a woman
11:50
In the Royal Family in Dubai Who
11:53
threatens this narrative? Sheikh Mohammed is so
11:55
keen to project that he is this
11:57
benevolent ruler, but one who exerts absolute
12:00
power over his people and therefore over
12:02
the women in his family. And.
12:05
Women: the into buys royal family occupy.
12:07
This really wrenching dual role were
12:09
on the ones and that kind
12:11
of held up as like props
12:13
in St. Muhammad's. Nurse
12:15
has. Were by He
12:18
wants to portray himself as a champion of
12:20
women's rights in the region. As a progressive
12:22
leader like this is so key to his
12:24
presentation of himself and the west and in
12:26
his his dealings with be on the international
12:28
stage. but at. The same time at home
12:31
and you're a he. He needs to protect
12:33
himself as a traditional Arab leader and and
12:35
therefore somebody. Who acts as a great
12:37
deal of authority over his subjects and over the
12:39
women and his family. And say when women
12:42
step out of line, they need to be. Dealt with
12:44
swiftly and publicly. One expert I spoke to
12:46
describe this to me as a kind of
12:48
performative patriarchy. It's almost as if Sent Mohammed
12:50
is saying that you want to watch me
12:53
deal with the women and my family. Will
12:55
he go? From. So.
12:59
Let's he said, gets out of prison for
13:01
answers or dies just after that. Then
13:03
what happens? Well. And
13:05
years after she got our tails, he wasn't
13:08
allowed to travel. She. Wasn't allowed to
13:10
study as he was kept under constant
13:12
god. She. Was allowed gradually.
13:14
To start to see some activities
13:16
so she could go shopping with
13:18
chaperones and eventually she was allowed
13:21
to take up sports like scuba
13:23
diving and skydiving, but never unsupervised.
13:25
And. One of the man he was assigned to daughter was
13:27
the guy had helped to talk to her in prison.
13:30
says. She'd be out like that. The races. Or
13:32
scuba diving at the beach. And that he'd
13:34
be this guy who'd hell's had down. As
13:36
have feet were chained until all the bones
13:39
were broken. So.
13:41
It might look like see was free, but really, she
13:43
was still. Being. Watched incredibly
13:45
closely, Exactly. What?
13:48
About what he says: Sister Samsung, What's happening
13:50
with her during all this. Was.
13:52
So about three years after that he for was
13:54
released from prison and eight years off. To some
13:57
they had of initially escapes sounds. It was
13:59
finally released from prison and allowed to come
14:01
home to their mother's house. Since.
14:04
He does it just longs. For this moment.
14:06
But when it came the reunion was
14:08
really, really agonizing. She wrote that sums
14:10
it was only a sale of have
14:12
for myself with all the willpower talks
14:14
at our suffer. The teaser. Rate and
14:16
one letter. She. Was like
14:19
a zombie. With all the drugs they forced
14:21
her to take for few years after she
14:23
came out prison, she didn't even open her
14:25
eyes, partly because. Nice to just lie in bed
14:27
all day, to have to have someone hold her
14:29
hand. And walk from around. How
14:32
much they determined to her. And she
14:34
also had suicide attempts. That.
14:38
He said great that she really struggled
14:40
to get close to sounds or again,
14:42
And she found herself grappling with a lot of
14:44
feelings of anger. Towards her sister for the
14:46
mistakes that she'd made when she tried to
14:49
escape the cooling one of her father's dogs
14:51
and other thing she did that the teeth
14:53
of the or reckless. Was.
14:55
Almost like receiver started to blame sounds Of
14:57
for her own ceiling that she had to
14:59
escape to save her sister and and all
15:02
of the awful consequences that had followed from
15:04
that. For her the years of imprisonment and
15:06
the taught said that she suffered she felt
15:08
the she does. All of that the some
15:10
there and she thought incredibly frustrated with her
15:12
sister. but she also loved her desperately and
15:14
still wanted to help her. The.
15:18
Teaser rate and one lesser. I
15:21
think I find it hard getting close to her as
15:23
we were best friends the forty thousand and she was
15:25
taken away from me. For eight years. I
15:28
think it's hard to put myself through the has done. Because
15:30
I almost died and ruined my life to
15:33
her. And I'm still upset that she
15:35
was so reckless. I don't
15:37
know if I can trust have anything. Bad.
15:39
The same time, she has no one else who fight
15:41
or her. This is the hardest
15:44
decision of my life. The hardest
15:46
decision of her life. But
15:50
it seemed mean by that was she was
15:52
trying to decide. Was by this a try?
15:54
To escape again. In.
15:57
the end she decided it was the only
15:59
way to get help for Shamsa and
16:02
to free herself. She
16:04
began working on a plan. That's
16:17
me setting my iPhone on the table at a cafe
16:19
in London where I met up with a close friend
16:21
of Latifah's. Her name is Tina
16:23
Yaffaini. But do you want to go to something
16:25
before we start? Ah, yes.
16:27
Ah, just coffee. Good night, there.
16:29
Definitely a coffee. Tina
16:32
ordered an almond milk latte. I
16:35
found out later that after she became friends
16:37
with Latifah, she also became vegan. Latifah
16:39
didn't eat any meat or dairy, she was
16:41
a huge animal lover. Tina
16:44
was kind of a fascinating character. She
16:46
was very poised and powerfully built, wearing
16:48
all black, a jumper, jeans and boots.
16:51
She has white blonde hair and these really
16:53
frank blue eyes. How did
16:55
Tina end up meeting Latifah? Tina
16:58
told me she grew up on a flower
17:00
farm in Finland, in this tiny town surrounded
17:02
by scores of lakes. It
17:04
was really claustrophobic. She was desperate to get away
17:06
and desperate to travel and see the world. She
17:09
moved to Dubai in 2001 and initially she worked in
17:12
the hotel industry. But she
17:14
started getting interested in Kaipuera, which is a
17:17
kind of martial art. She became the administrator
17:19
for a local Kaipuera group. So
17:21
in 2010 I remember getting into
17:23
email from this girl who said,
17:26
oh, I'm an Arab female. I
17:29
would like to learn Kaipuera.
17:32
But this person didn't want to come to
17:34
classes, which is how Tina says you would
17:36
usually go about learning Kaipuera, you practice together.
17:39
Eventually the two of them arranged to meet
17:41
and Tina got an address. It
17:43
wasn't until she got there that she realised that she'd
17:45
been sent to a private recreation complex which
17:48
was connected to stables owned by Sheikh
17:50
Bahamid. We met
17:52
at the stables and then I
17:54
realised, oh my God, she must
17:56
be part of this rolling rolling.
18:00
family or something. So
18:02
the place where they were going
18:04
to practice was this huge echoing
18:06
space surrounded by pictures of Sheikh
18:08
Mohammed and favoured children. Latifa showed
18:10
up there with guards who swept the complex to make sure
18:13
there were no men inside before she was allowed to enter.
18:16
And how did Latifa seem to Tina? Well,
18:19
Tina said Latifa struck her as small
18:21
and unassuming. She struggled to make
18:23
eye contact, but she was
18:25
struck by how fiercely Latifa threw herself
18:27
into the training. She was obsessed and
18:29
wanted to work out every single day.
18:35
We did hour and a half sessions and she would
18:37
be like wanting to do
18:39
them every day, even on weekends. Really?
18:41
Yeah, and that's that. I do want
18:43
to say that's quite a lot, you
18:46
know? Latifa
18:49
was working out so intensively and Tina
18:51
noticed it was almost as if she didn't want to
18:53
show that she was capable of getting tired. But
18:55
eventually when she began to get worn out, she
18:58
would ask if maybe they could stop and just
19:00
chat for a while. And then
19:02
they'd order food and just sit and talk.
19:05
Latifa seemed so curious about what
19:07
seemed like really mundane aspects of Tina's
19:09
life. During breaks she'd asked for
19:11
things like what Tina ate for breakfast. And when she
19:13
found out that Tina had never tried exotic fruits
19:16
that she loved like star fruit or custard
19:18
apples, she'd bring them in next time for
19:20
Tina to try. I thought it was so
19:22
sweet. So somehow we just like, you
19:25
know, started hanging out a bit more,
19:27
you know. Tina found out that Latifa
19:29
was really good fun. She was a
19:32
great adventure partner. You know, she always
19:34
asked for something new
19:37
and interesting, right? So
19:40
I liked that a lot
19:42
about her. Latifa took Tina
19:45
skiing on Dubai's ski slope, the one with
19:47
the live penguins, and then they started
19:49
skydiving together. And Latifa
19:51
seemed fearless, like at their first class she
19:53
was the only person to jump solo
19:55
without an instructor in tandem. And
19:57
then after that she just jumped again and again. and
20:00
then again she started wingsuit flying and then
20:02
jumping out of hot air balloons and
20:04
soon enough Tina and Latifah were spending nearly
20:06
every single day together. Tina
20:09
said they got really close, it was almost as
20:11
if they were sisters but still
20:13
Latifah seemed to be keeping secrets from her
20:16
for years and then one day
20:18
about seven years after they first met they
20:20
were having lunch. Yes we were in the restaurant
20:22
for television and
20:32
Latifah started telling Tina what had
20:34
happened to Shamsa, how she'd
20:36
run away and then been kidnapped and
20:39
since then Latifah told Tina that Shamsa had
20:41
been guarded and sedated around the clock
20:44
and she told her how she'd tried to escape herself
20:46
to help her sister and how
20:48
Latifah herself had then been caught
20:51
and imprisoned for years. Tina was
20:53
shocked and she asked Latifah why didn't you
20:55
tell me this before? You know it's
20:57
almost like she was in partner and
21:01
even if it's not if they all the
21:03
way around I think by
21:14
the time Latifah finished telling the story Tina
21:17
remembers that both women were crying I
21:19
felt much closer to her and
21:21
I felt like so much anger
21:23
towards the people who had done
21:26
it with her and like I
21:28
really felt for her like oh
21:30
my god the life would be
21:32
so horrible. Latifah told Tina that now
21:34
she was planning to try again to escape
21:36
from Dubai. Like when
21:38
you help like can you help me?
21:40
You know and I was like yeah
21:42
I want to be there. So
21:49
was all of this this seven-year
21:52
friendship, the classes, the
21:54
training, the exotic fruit sharing,
21:56
was this all part of a plan?
21:59
Like was literally Latifah all
22:01
along recruiting Tina? Yeah,
22:03
and so now it begins to make more
22:05
sense why Latifah was so determined to learn
22:07
martial arts and to practice so hard. Like
22:10
even her interest in scuba diving kind of begins
22:12
to make more sense, because actually Latifah
22:14
had been planning this escape for years
22:16
by now. She
22:22
was in her early 30s and she'd spent her
22:24
entire adult life trying to figure out how to
22:26
get away. The idea she had
22:28
was that she would get to India or Sri Lanka
22:30
by boat and then she'd fly to the US and
22:32
seek asylum. She'd already obtained a
22:35
fake nervous passport. She thought
22:37
initially about whether she should take Shamsa, but
22:39
she decided that Shamsa was just in too
22:41
fragile a state. Do we
22:43
know if Shamsa even still wanted to escape?
22:46
Well apparently she did, because right around this
22:48
same time while Latifah and Tina were working
22:50
on their plan, Shamsa tried again
22:52
to get help. By now she was
22:54
36. It was 17
22:56
years since she'd run away and been kidnapped
22:58
in England. Somehow she got
23:01
hold of another secret phone and she
23:03
used it to call police in Cambridge,
23:05
the English city where she'd been abducted.
23:08
Wow, after all that time she
23:10
still wanted to get out. Yeah,
23:13
she still hadn't given up. But
23:15
the detective she'd talked to years earlier had
23:17
retired. And the police told
23:19
me in a statement that though they made new
23:21
lines of inquiry, they decided there wasn't enough evidence
23:24
to pursue what they called a uniquely
23:26
challenging and complex case. Latifah
23:29
wrote that soon afterwards Shamsa's rooms
23:31
were searched and her phone was
23:33
confiscated. She
23:35
was placed in a separate wing of the
23:38
residence and her sedatives were increased. So
23:45
Latifah's plan was that she would leave so that
23:47
she could get help for Shamsa from the outside
23:49
world. She was absolutely determined
23:51
that she was not going to make the same
23:54
mistakes that Shamsa had made when she tried to
23:56
escape. She was going
23:58
to make the watertight plan. This
24:00
is what she wrote at the time. I
24:03
must identify every possible single point of
24:05
failure and have a plan for every
24:08
scenario that can go awry. If
24:10
I get caught in the act, I
24:12
am not willing to submit to more
24:15
years of torture, dehumanization and hopelessness. She
24:18
wrote, and for her, it was freedom
24:20
or death. Absolutely
24:22
nothing. Nothing in between. And
24:29
Latifah already had another conspirator. Another
24:32
one? And so who is this person? So
24:35
while she was trying to figure out how to get out of
24:37
the country, Latifah had heard about a guy who'd
24:39
managed to flee Dubai himself. His
24:42
name was Évée Jauber, and he was a French-American
24:44
Marine engineer and former naval officer in
24:46
his 50s, who'd
24:49
fled Dubai to escape embezzlement charges, which he insisted
24:51
were false. He claimed to have
24:53
worked undercover in the French secret service, and he cultivated
24:55
a kind of air of mystery. He
24:58
had this shiny black hair and coarse stubble
25:00
and a heavy French accent. The
25:03
way he managed to get out was to take an inflatable
25:05
dinghy to a boat that was waiting in international
25:07
waters, and by now he was
25:09
living in Manila when Latifah managed to track him down. So
25:12
after I escaped from Dubai, I
25:15
published a book, like 10
25:18
years ago or something, and Latifah
25:20
found my book. Évée
25:23
Jauber and I talked extensively, and here he is
25:25
giving an interview to another podcast about his
25:27
role in Latifah's escape. It
25:30
was banned in Dubai. It still is
25:32
banned, but she managed to find a
25:34
book, and when she saw that, number
25:37
one, I did escape, and
25:40
number two, I was a former secret
25:42
operator, so she believed I could help
25:44
her to get out of there. Latifah
25:48
thought that Évée Jauber could help her do
25:50
something like what he'd managed to do. I
25:53
have their email correspondence, in which they'd made
25:55
plans for more than seven years before Latifah
25:57
brought Tina into what she was planning. In
26:00
that time, by Latifah's reckoning, she'd sent Erbe more
26:02
than $500,000. She
26:06
wasn't allowed to have a bank account, so she'd saved up
26:08
her pocket money in cash to give to him. Erbe
26:11
told me that any funds he'd received from Latifah
26:13
up to that point were just to cover his
26:15
expenses, but he did expect to
26:17
profit eventually. As soon as Latifah
26:19
was free, he intended to send her a
26:21
hefty bill for tens of millions of dollars
26:23
for his role in her escape. How
26:26
did she get him all that cash without her family
26:28
noticing? She managed to slip
26:30
away from her chaperone on shopping trips and pass
26:32
bundles of cash to an envoy who was sent
26:34
by Erbe. And then she put Tina and Erbe
26:36
in touch with each other. The
26:39
first problem they faced was how to get Latifah
26:41
out of Dubai. The border was
26:43
heavily guarded. So one plan
26:45
involved her swimming over the border into
26:47
Oman, the country next door, underwater.
26:50
That is a really long swim. So
26:52
she was going to do it using a
26:54
rebreather and an underwater scooter. You
26:57
have to tell me what are both
26:59
of those things. What is a rebreather? What's
27:01
an underwater scooter? Right. A rebreather
27:03
is a kind of scuba device that helps
27:05
you recycle some of the air that you
27:07
exhale while you're underwater so that you need
27:09
less supplemental oxygen and then you can go
27:11
further. And an underwater scooter is
27:13
this kind of handheld propeller that
27:16
helps to scoot you along under the water so
27:18
that you can cover a much further distance than
27:20
any human being would actually be able to swim.
27:24
This definitely seems like something out of a movie,
27:26
like some sort of way that the spies get
27:28
out of the country undetected. And I guess I
27:30
could see why Latifah was into it. Because it
27:32
sounds like you could just, instead of having to
27:34
like bob your head up above water and have
27:36
someone see, you can just stay under and just
27:39
get as far away as possible. Exactly.
27:42
And these are literally the sorts of tools that
27:44
are used in covert spy operations, which
27:46
I do think was a big part of the appeal for Latifah.
27:50
Erbe was impressed. Latifah had done a
27:52
lot of research about what he called
27:54
spy stuff, and she was genuinely
27:56
knowledgeable. He Really liked her idea
27:58
for getting to Oman underwater. If.
28:01
You cross the water under the water. It
28:03
is safe. And eight was lucky
28:05
cause I do Ya truly? Bad.
28:07
I like this idea because. It's.
28:09
Very sad news. It's undetectable.
28:12
And. Or even if somebody saw
28:14
usually just scuba diving your you
28:16
just gotta have something. The
28:19
idea with the also the underwater swim the teacher
28:22
would be met by an inflatable dinghy and then
28:24
should use that thing he. Beat have a
28:26
yacht and international waters. And
28:28
he would take the he for to India which
28:30
is nearly a thousand miles away by see. And
28:33
she would fly from there to the U and seek. Asylum.
28:36
Scene of a gun to meet up with ebay
28:38
and Manila she shuttle pass to. Him and he
28:40
also brought him a set of time and to read
28:42
that she says much cheaper. Was planning to sell when
28:44
she got to America to make some money to go
28:46
on her feet. Kinda. Started traveling
28:49
around the world to make more preparations
28:51
and assemble equipment. She went to Sri
28:53
Lanka and the Us and Singapore. And.
28:55
What kind of equipment? A C bearing. Sheeple.
28:58
A dinghy, motor and scuba gear
29:00
and Garmin Satellite navigators. and too
29:02
powerful. Underwater scooters to know me. apartment got
29:04
a full of all the stuff that she couldn't
29:06
invite people over anymore because it to say suspicious.
29:10
And then Tina enlisted another conspiracy.
29:14
Specifically schools which is.
29:18
Most of my sister services. For
29:22
treating Christian a lumber with a
29:24
friend of Tina's pieces powerfully built
29:26
French guy. He. Owned a number
29:28
of. Training. Gyms. And he's actually been teen
29:30
his own cookware of instructor. But
29:33
I caught up with him recently. He wasn't his head
29:35
in Kathy. He. Told me that Monday
29:37
when he was living in a Mon Tina came to
29:39
see him. And. She told him about
29:41
her friend the princess. What's.
29:47
Good and treats. Prisons
29:59
are cheated. him that they were planning an escape.
30:02
She explained me what
30:04
she was preparing to do. She
30:06
asked me for my help. I didn't
30:08
even think. Before even she finished, I think I said
30:10
yes. This was
30:12
an incredibly big risk for Christian. But
30:15
he said he just couldn't say no. Of
30:17
course I knew I could have been arrested. I
30:19
could be in the woods. I
30:22
knew that I was risking all the things that I had.
30:24
I put my life on the line. I knew. This
30:30
is just so remarkable to me that
30:32
you have this really
30:34
seemingly unlikely crew of conspirators
30:37
that Latifah has assembled.
30:40
It's two martial arts instructors and this
30:42
mysterious guy who fled Dubai by sea
30:44
to avoid criminal charges. But with Christian,
30:47
it just sounds like for him he
30:49
just thought, this is wrong
30:51
and so I've got to help. He's so
30:53
matter of fact about it, even though he's
30:55
about to try to do something that whole
30:58
governments have looked the other way about
31:00
to try to rescue this princess from
31:02
under the watchful eyes of her
31:04
father. Right, totally. Yeah, global governments
31:06
have singularly failed to step in and do anything
31:08
to help these imprisoned princesses. But big shout out
31:10
to the martial arts community of Dubai because it
31:13
turns out these are the people who are going
31:15
to step in. Right, exactly. They
31:17
will not tolerate this. Okay,
31:20
so Tina and Irvay come to Christian. They
31:22
have this plan to use this rebreather. What
31:25
does Christian think about that? So Christian
31:27
actually thought that that was a really terrible
31:29
idea. He just thought it was too elaborate,
31:31
like too James Bond. He was like, you
31:33
would need years of training to pull something
31:35
like that off. Latifah was really
31:37
determined to try it. But then when she practiced with
31:39
the rebreather, she got really sick and dizzy. Okay,
31:43
so Latifah is under guard the whole time. Where
31:46
in the world is she able to practice using
31:48
this like rebreather device with? So
31:50
they were actually practicing this in the
31:52
pool at her mother's palace. Okay,
31:55
so how do you explain that? Like if your
31:57
mother like peeks out into the pool and sees
31:59
you? with this weird item
32:01
trying to breathe underwater. It does
32:03
seem kind of crazy, I know, but I
32:06
think that basically by this point Latifah had
32:08
done a really good job of convincing her
32:10
family into thinking that she'd just lost all
32:12
her fighting spirit, like that they'd just broken
32:14
her will completely. And this was, you know,
32:16
this was years and years after she first
32:19
attempted to escape. And so no
32:21
one was really watching her all that closely anymore.
32:24
Like she was still under chaperone, but you
32:26
know, she was with Tina, people trusted Tina,
32:28
people thought that she wasn't going to try and pull
32:31
anything off. She
32:33
wrote, the image my guardians have of me
32:35
now is that I went through a period
32:37
of rebelliousness and insanity as a teenager. I'm
32:40
now cautious, obedient, scared of stepping out
32:42
of line because I'll go through that ordeal
32:44
again. They think I've been
32:46
broken and that they've terrified me enough not to
32:48
attempt anything like this. The
32:50
truth is, yes, I am more cautious,
32:53
but I have not been broken because
32:55
I am not afraid of death. Oh
32:58
my God. I mean, I just think,
33:03
just imagine being her for a second
33:05
in this moment and spending years
33:07
like this, trying to convince your
33:10
whole family that you're
33:12
docile, you're never going to do this. And
33:15
yet secretly continuing for all that
33:18
time. It's incredible. So
33:27
what did they decide to do then when
33:29
this rebreather doesn't work? So
33:31
Christian had another idea. He thought that they should just
33:33
keep it simple. They should just drive
33:36
Latifah over the border hidden inside the
33:38
trunk of an SUV. I
33:40
told him the suppressed thing was
33:42
to empty the compartment of
33:44
an SUV because it has a
33:46
deep tire normally. Put
33:49
some blanket or something, some cushion so
33:51
she can lay down for a certain
33:53
time. Make sure that there's
33:55
a boat put solid, put
33:58
some furniture on there. VU
34:01
Jauber thought that that plan sounded too risky.
34:04
I told Tina, if you get caught
34:06
at the border with the
34:08
daughter of the ruler fiddling the trunk
34:10
of the car, that's a bullet
34:12
in the head, right there in the desert. A
34:15
bullet to the head, right there in the desert. Right,
34:18
that was the fear, but ultimately that was the
34:20
plan they decided to go with. We'll
34:25
be right back. Before
34:33
she left, Lativa did one more thing to try
34:35
to make sure that her escape would go better
34:37
than Shamsa's had done. She
34:39
snuck over to Tina's apartment and she made a video and
34:42
she sent it to various people with instructions to release
34:44
it if she got caught. If
34:46
that happened, she wanted to make sure that everybody
34:48
knew her version of the story, and
34:50
she figured it would make it harder for her
34:52
father to quietly make her disappear, or
34:54
to kill her. If
34:57
I don't make it out alive, I'll just do the video. I
35:01
really hope I don't need this
35:03
video. She
35:07
looks kind of young and wide-eyed
35:10
in this pale blue t-shirt, with her
35:12
hair in this loose ponytail, like there are
35:14
strands falling all around her face. Pretty
35:17
soon I'm going
35:19
to be leaving
35:22
somehow, and I'm
35:26
not so sure of the outcome, but I'm
35:30
99% positive it will work. She
35:35
speaks carefully with details about who
35:37
she is, and she
35:39
makes it absolutely clear that all she wants
35:42
is to be free. I
35:46
don't know how I'll
35:49
feel, just waking up in the morning
35:52
and thinking, I can do whatever I
35:54
want today, I can go wherever I want. I
35:56
have all the choices in the world like anyone
35:59
does. Now
36:01
we'll get a new, different feeling. I'll
36:05
be amazing. The
36:12
day of the escape was set for a Saturday, in
36:14
February of 2018. That
36:16
morning, Latifah left the palace at dawn and
36:18
was driven downtown to a cafe on Sheikh
36:21
Mohammed bin Rashid Boulevard to meet Tina.
36:24
By that time, the two women had spent
36:26
so much time together, with Tina teaching Latifah
36:28
Kupwira that she'd kind of come to be
36:30
seen as a chaperone in her own right by
36:32
the palace. So they were allowed to meet
36:35
up alone. Nobody would have
36:37
ever imagined we'd meet up with Tina. Because
36:41
even that morning, you know, the driver dropped
36:43
her off, and obviously they saw me
36:45
waiting outside the cafe. Nobody
36:48
could have thought that there
36:51
was any abnormal plans
36:53
for that day. You
36:55
have a really, like, kind of mischievous
36:57
kind of glowing smile when you talk
37:00
about this. That
37:02
day, Tina borrowed Christian's car. They'd
37:04
taken out the spare tyre, and now Latifah
37:06
climbed into its compartment in the tree. Tina
37:09
covered it, and then she piled blue bags full
37:12
of unbuilt IKEA furniture on top. They
37:15
set off for the border between Dubai and Oman.
37:18
They'd worked her at the signal, and Tina would
37:20
play music as she drove. And then when the
37:22
music stopped, that would mean that they were at
37:24
the border, and Latifah shouldn't make a sound. Do
37:27
you know what the music was? She told
37:29
me that it was Coldplay. Because
37:31
you're a sky full of stars.
37:34
Sky full of stars. And
37:36
what a key she is in the
37:38
heart. She
37:41
said Latifah was always teasing her about her cheesy-tasted
37:43
music. Tina told
37:45
me that she was worried Latifah wouldn't be able to
37:47
breathe in that little space with all of that stuff piled
37:49
on top of her. But they
37:51
figured that the guards wouldn't want to move all that
37:53
heavy furniture to check what was underneath, and
37:56
it felt like the best way to get her across the
37:58
border undetected. They
38:00
got to the border and
38:04
Tina pulled into the line of cars waiting to cross.
38:07
Her heart was pounding. When
38:09
it was her turn, the border guards opened all the
38:11
doors and then they opened the trunk.
38:14
Tina was so nervous she felt dizzy but
38:17
the guards didn't move the bags. They
38:19
let her drive on into Eman. Still,
38:23
it took a lot longer than Tina had hoped to
38:25
get through the border. When she
38:27
finally was able to pull over and open the
38:29
trunk, she was terrified that she was going to
38:31
find her friend. But the
38:33
teeth had jumped out full of excitement. She
38:36
got into the passenger seat and they snapped a
38:38
selfie. Oh,
38:41
this looks like just a road trip, like
38:43
two girls on an exciting road trip. Right,
38:45
it kind of has Selma and Louise vibes. Yeah,
38:48
two girls in a car with sunglasses and
38:50
Tina has this kind of almost like a
38:52
little smirk on her face. But
38:55
Latifah has this huge smile. Yeah,
38:57
Latifah is just grinning all over and Tina has
38:59
this kind of impish grin like she's really
39:02
proud of herself for pulling this off. So
39:05
they met up with Christian at his flat in
39:07
Eman. He tried to play host and offered
39:09
them food but they were just too nervous. They
39:12
were starting to talk about some
39:15
of the possibilities of things going wrong. And
39:17
I was just like, well, things can go wrong.
39:19
But for now, everything is still
39:21
okay. No one is you know, so relax.
39:24
You guys done your part. I've done my
39:26
part. Everything is ready downstairs. He
39:29
already had the dinghy all inflated and ready to go
39:31
on a trailer. And he piled some fishing gear on
39:33
board to make it look like they were just on an ordinary outing.
39:36
And they packed small backpacks with cash and
39:38
Latifah's fake passport and her laptop and a
39:41
few spare clothes. They
39:43
had Garmin satellite navigators so Erbe could
39:45
track their location and send them GPS
39:47
coordinates so that they could see where the boat was waiting
39:49
for them. It was about 16 miles
39:52
offshore in international waters. They
39:54
drove down to the ocean. But when they
39:56
got there, the sea was really rough, like
39:58
a storm was coming. and fishermen were
40:01
running up the beach saying to Christian, don't go
40:03
out in that, it's too risky. The
40:05
sea was rough. I've been
40:07
sailing sometimes, I've been, you know, driving
40:09
boats and playing and having fun. But
40:12
I've never seen the sea so
40:14
rough. But I knew I
40:16
couldn't go back and
40:19
it was impossible to say, you
40:21
know, OK, well, let's change the plan.
40:23
And as frightened as everyone were, the
40:26
only option was to go through it.
40:34
They jumped in and Christian steered
40:36
the boat out into these churning
40:38
waves. And it was just lurching
40:40
around. Like he said it was almost as if the
40:42
boat was standing on end. These waves were so steep.
40:45
He told the people to lean on the front of the
40:47
boat to try to help keep their nose down. But the
40:49
sea just kept pushing them back. And he said the engine
40:52
wasn't strong enough. So the going was really slow. That
40:54
was like a nightmare. Many
40:57
times I thought the boat is just going to flip
40:59
one of the waves, it's going to put everyone down.
41:02
Like if I was
41:04
frightened. So
41:08
the people were just clinging to the side of the
41:10
boat as it pitched on the waves and it was
41:12
taking on water. And Tina was still trying
41:15
to send satellite coordinates to Airevé so he could
41:17
see where they were. They traveled
41:19
miles out into the ocean, but they
41:21
were going so slowly. They were running late. And
41:23
so the crew from the yacht eventually came out to pick
41:25
them up on jet skis. I was
41:28
seeing one jet ski, then two. When
41:30
the jet skis reached the boat, Tina and
41:32
Latifah tried to clamber on board, but they fell in
41:34
the water and all of their clothes and possessions got
41:36
soaked through. Eventually, they managed
41:39
to clamber on and they said goodbye to
41:41
Christian. Yeah, that moment I
41:43
was just thinking of making a pass. We
41:47
just said, OK, we'll talk later, we'll
41:49
keep in touch. Christian
41:52
waved them goodbye as they zoomed away. The
41:54
jet skis took them to Airevé's yacht, which was
41:57
called Nostromo. They climbed on
41:59
board. And now they
42:01
were in international waters. Only US
42:03
flagged both. The
42:06
teacher was free. Christian
42:17
motored the dinghy back to shore. Then
42:20
he took his girlfriend out for a celebratory
42:22
seafood dinner and he called
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his sister in Europe to tell her he was
42:27
coming home to see her. He needed
42:29
to get out of Eman. He
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might be in a lot of trouble. Yes.
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Just before he was scheduled to get on
42:51
the plane, he was driving in his car
42:53
and suddenly he was blocked on all sides
42:55
by police. He remembers
42:57
dozens of guns pointing at him. The
43:01
officers took him to the solitary wing of
43:03
an Omani jail. And
43:06
soon officials arrived to
43:08
interrogate him. They
43:10
wanted to know when
43:12
he's the princess. That's
43:21
next on the runaway princess. The
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43:49
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