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night, when Latifah and Tina were on
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board the yacht Nostromo, a few days after
1:21
their escape from Dubai, the sea
1:23
grew calmer. The
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two of them were out on deck, they had on
1:29
hoodies against the chill, and they were
1:31
looking at the sky. If you see all
1:33
the stars, it was beautiful. And
1:36
you could obviously see the light on the
1:38
waves as well. So
1:40
it was really, really beautiful. And
1:44
Latifah suggested that they stay out there all night
1:46
instead of going down to their cabin. She
1:49
wanted to sleep on outside
1:51
on the top deck of
1:54
the boat. And
1:56
she was like, oh, you know, I want to be
1:58
doing things like this in the future as
2:00
well you know. Tina
2:03
told her, oh come on it's cold it'll
2:05
be more comfortable in our beds. You'll have plenty
2:08
of opportunities to do things like this now. So
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they went down to their cabin. It
2:13
sounds like maybe you regret that a bit
2:15
now is that something? Yeah a little bit.
2:18
Yeah I should have done it because
2:20
you know obviously it's the same like
2:22
anything is like you know sometimes
2:24
there's an opportunity to do it just
2:27
once. I don't know. I
2:30
don't know if I just to do it rather
2:32
than. You're
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listening to the Runaway Princesses from In the
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Dark and The New Yorker. It's
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the story of why women in Dubai's
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royal family keep trying to run away
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and what happens to them when they do. I'm
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Madeline Barron. This is episode three, A
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Nice Lunch. My
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colleague Heidi Blake obtained texts and emails
3:12
set by the band of conspirators on
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board Nostromo as they were crossing the
3:16
Arabian Sea on their way to India
3:19
and she pieced together their story. When
3:22
we left off last episode it
3:24
was the end of the day Latifah made her escape. She'd
3:27
been traveling since dawn. She'd been
3:29
hidden in a car trunk. She
3:31
and Tina had been passed around in a
3:33
dinghy in huge waves. They'd been picked up
3:35
by jet skis and they finally reached the
3:37
yacht. So Heidi tell
3:39
me about that moment when they finally climb
3:41
on board. Well so they reached the boat at
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sunset and Tina told me that once they'd clambered
3:46
aboard they hugged each other but they were just
3:48
too exhausted and nauseated to celebrate.
3:51
Tina remembers that she took a shower because she
3:53
was soaked in seawater so was Latifah but
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after that she was just knocked sideways by
3:58
a migraine and Latifah was violently ceasing. for
4:00
the first couple of days. And who
4:02
else is on the boat with them apart from Irvay? They're
4:04
the small Filipino crew, but it's not a
4:06
luxury cruise. Tina said that when she and
4:09
Latifah were well enough to come out of
4:11
their cabin, they found that Evay's
4:13
boat was filthy. There were cockroaches
4:15
in the food supplies and Tina said they
4:17
mostly lived on porridge. I
4:19
remember cooking one day, we
4:22
had boiled potatoes
4:24
with high beans. Uh-huh.
4:27
And I was really happy about it
4:30
because actually it was something that wasn't
4:32
cereal. I think at
4:34
first at least they were pretty exuberant.
4:36
Latifah texted a friend from aboard the
4:38
boat saying, I really feel so free
4:41
now. Walking target, yes, but totally free.
4:44
She also wrote farewell messages to her
4:46
mother and her siblings. And she posted
4:48
a triumphant message on Instagram saying, I
4:50
have escaped UAE after being trapped for
4:52
18 years. Wait, why
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is she doing this at this point? Like she's not
4:57
actually, I mean, she's still on the boat. She's
5:00
still in the middle of her escape. I know, I had
5:02
exactly the same thought. Like, isn't this really risky? Isn't
5:04
this the sort of thing that Shamsa did that
5:06
got her into trouble? Right. But
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it seems like Latifah figured that her family
5:10
were gonna know she was gone as soon as she missed
5:13
her curfew, which is at 10 p.m. And
5:15
she wanted to make clear that she hadn't been kidnapped, that
5:17
she'd left Dubai of her own free will and that they
5:19
should just let her go. There was no need to mount
5:21
some kind of rescue effort. But
5:24
soon after they set out, Evay did something
5:26
that seriously complicated, don't picture. He
5:29
contacted a lawyer in Florida and asked her
5:31
to draw up a settlement agreement demanding $300
5:33
million from Sheikh Mohammed on
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Latifah's behalf. Now Latifah didn't
5:39
have a bank account, so Evay told the
5:41
lawyer that the money should be transferred to
5:43
his account in the Philippines. And he promised
5:45
that he would split it evenly with Latifah
5:47
and Tina. Was Latifah on board with this?
5:50
Well, Evay said that actually the settlement had been
5:52
her idea and that his share of $100 million
5:56
was his payment for helping her escape. He
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really denied that he pressured Latifah in any... The way.
6:00
But. Let's see the tell Tina the have a
6:02
mind seem to be always on money and profit
6:04
and she'd gone along with a plan to to
6:07
appease him knowing that her father would never pay
6:09
Anyways, we didn't really matter. So.
6:11
Sending all these messages from onboard
6:13
posting on Instagram? Definitely not trying
6:15
to slip away quietly. No,
6:17
in fact, they wanted. Publicity
6:19
of and the Tisa. We're also trying
6:22
to reach journalists as as he was
6:24
making her escape. Or they
6:26
had promised to use his contacts in the
6:28
international media to publicize history so that the
6:30
world would. Be watching a some of the
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tried to retaliate. When. He was
6:35
signed me on, booed and streamer had reached
6:37
out to people he said he knew at
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the B B C and the Associated Press.
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The he got no reply. So instead of.
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A put the t for answer to the group called
6:45
detained in Dubai. They. Advocate for people who
6:48
run into trouble with the law. Run the Emirates and
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he'd worked with them before. that
6:52
he for look them up from on both a yacht. And.
6:54
Tina said. she was dismayed when she saw that
6:56
the group seem to have kind of a low
6:58
profile. They had hardly any Facebook followers, she said,
7:01
but she got in touch. Hello
7:03
My name is. like Mohammad Reza
7:05
said, I'm a tomb. My birthdays to
7:07
some I have copies of O'day
7:09
messages lucky percent to. Detained in Dubai
7:11
from on board the boat just a few days
7:14
after setting sail. She tells
7:16
him about sums up and how she
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decided that the only way to help
7:20
her was to escape. Ah so now
7:22
as I am I less amount of
7:25
the you at you but I'm not
7:27
as of danger at all. On so
7:29
far from being safe so am I
7:31
think some kind of publication would be
7:34
good Already contacted some major newspapers or
7:36
other know what else to say Really
7:38
like I just hope it all goes
7:40
okay because there's so many people involved
7:42
who were helping me to get out.
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And I hope everybody does. This ends
7:48
up okay. That.
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He says messages landed in the in box of
7:52
Detained in Dubai. Ceo Rod Sterling and
7:55
she told me that she has
7:57
suffered years of abuse that she
7:59
wanted. The free and that she's gone
8:01
to great lengths to make her way out
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of to get where he will receive. The
8:06
started asking me whether I can put this
8:08
in the media and as soon as possible
8:10
because she thought that that would protect. The.
8:13
Run a said that Sas they have to figure out whether this
8:15
whole thing was. A hoax. It sounded like the
8:17
kind of email you that from a scammer
8:20
who claims to be a foreign prince. you
8:22
know, because it was such a convoluted story
8:24
and it's the first time that you know
8:26
I'd heard a daughter of a ruler complain
8:28
about their and abuse and I think. Myself.
8:31
Like most other people would seem, that he
8:33
at least treats his family quite well, but
8:35
he at least treats his daughters well. so
8:37
it seemed almost unbelievable to me. I
8:40
should add that Sigma hum it denies. Appeasing his
8:42
daughters. Brought. A
8:44
new the media wouldn't print anything without some
8:47
sort of evidence. Detained. In Dubai,
8:49
set about verifying that the T for was who
8:51
she said. She was. A
8:55
Then the teacher was getting more. And more
8:57
uneasy about how her escape was going. To
9:00
have some friends but can do a He was
9:02
saying that they'd been rounded up. And questioned
9:04
about her disappearance and then they had
9:06
that Christian seen as friend he taking
9:08
them out see and the dinghy had
9:11
been arrested. Because are not
9:13
right. Because you know. What
9:17
is sick of it was one of
9:19
them outside. Without
9:21
you know. And.
9:23
They were other ominous signs. A
9:26
week into the voyage of a spotted another
9:28
set. Apparently telling them. And
9:30
a small plane was circling overhead. And
9:32
then Tina says the as. I told them
9:35
he was running low on fuel. Or
9:37
it's okay. I'm
9:43
trying to arrange to to
9:45
the purely know about was.
9:51
How. Do you run out of fuel in
9:53
a situation like that? Some in this is
9:55
that a plot that has then like literally
9:57
years in the making and then they. The
10:00
run out of fuel. Well.
10:02
It's a great. Question So when. I asked
10:04
of a about this. He insisted that he had
10:06
enough. Fuel to reach the original destination. but now
10:09
he was worried they were gonna have to change
10:11
roots because it seem like they were being full.
10:13
He also by the way insisted that his boat
10:15
was immaculate and the cockroaches are just and inevitable
10:17
part a seafaring. But. In
10:20
any case, officer we can see when they
10:22
were thirty miles. Off the coast of
10:24
India are they sent a text to
10:26
Rada saying. I am running out
10:28
He said the in a couple of days.
10:30
Is to to trick would be empty. Tina
10:33
said that the Teeth of is growing
10:35
increasingly Simon. says. I
10:39
think it's a lot to do
10:41
with that. See works annoyed. increasingly.
10:47
Situations. All
10:50
of them were afraid that much cheaper had. Been
10:52
located at a text at Rada.
10:55
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11:43
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11:45
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11:48
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12:01
you know some be foods
12:03
you know as if like that
12:05
small paper loud noise. These.
12:08
The. Two women heard something that sounded
12:10
like gunshots and then heavy boots overhead.
12:14
And the cheapest had to tina. They
12:16
found me. The. Chief of
12:18
the trying to send messages. Asking for help but
12:20
than the why scientists casa? The.
12:22
To him and lock themselves in the bathroom and
12:24
they were hugging each other that he the kept
12:26
saying she was sorry and then they started smelling
12:28
smoke. Pick up a feeling of
12:31
some sort of the smoke. On
12:34
a Sunday. Coming into the bathroom
12:37
aswell from the bends. And
12:40
then the average somebody was knocking
12:42
on the door and a those
12:44
one of their philippine of crew
12:46
members man he said that said
12:49
both has been boarded. A
12:52
simple have causes an eight hour. it was by
12:54
be looked like had sex call. it was like
12:56
in a panic as while. They.
12:58
Put wet towels over their faces to block.
13:00
The. Smooth. And
13:02
then he stumbled out to. The. Bathroom. And
13:05
completely dogs as they made their way up
13:07
the stairs to with. And
13:09
I was in the from. Behind
13:15
me be careful, be careful
13:17
and a the sites that
13:19
have half way up the
13:21
stairs were in all those
13:24
sites for pointing. Tina.
13:26
Said the red laser sights have guns
13:29
slice. Through the darkness in all directions.
13:32
There. Was a pool of blood. Of the top of the
13:34
stairs. she didn't know who that was. Men:
13:37
In mosques grabs her and drugs had to the
13:39
front of the pain. They sit
13:41
tight her hands and that's a
13:43
basic supports made a lot slower.
13:46
Than expose their squad.
13:49
And they were threatening to shoot me
13:52
and like close your eyes of issue
13:54
to. She says someone
13:56
told has a takes her last. Breath and
13:58
of the gather said. The
14:01
Way My life is ending. She
14:03
says the chief of was yelling at the men to
14:06
leave her friend alone. The. Commandos were
14:08
yelling who is the Tisa. Someone.
14:10
Grabbed a t for by the hair and
14:13
young adults. he saida to someone else and
14:15
said is this her. The.
14:17
Cheapest shouted over and over that she
14:19
wanted asylum that the men didn't listen.
14:22
And she was. She was taken
14:24
away kicking and screaming, The
14:27
teeth of thought and thought, she
14:29
was kicking and sitting and clinging
14:31
to the gunnels and she yelled
14:33
out, don't mean to kill me
14:35
now. And
14:37
then Tina want to say drives a friend over
14:39
the side of the boat. And.
14:42
The teeth of is. How.
14:50
Did sick. Mohammed managed to find them. Who.
14:53
He is every operate. As state
14:55
power to locate his daughter is
14:57
a souls had rounded up the
14:59
cheapest friends and her accomplices and
15:01
his intelligence agents had intercepted communications
15:04
from this promo. then the you
15:06
either go Interpol the International Police
15:08
agency to issue read notices, solicitors
15:10
accomplices for Christian and ebay and
15:12
Tina. A second international arrest
15:14
warrant accusing them of kidnapping her. When
15:18
the York was eventually located. Off the
15:20
coast of India sigma some Id
15:22
cool than a favor from a
15:24
powerful ally. He spoke personally with
15:26
the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi
15:28
and they have started deal. Moody
15:30
wanted an arms dealer. He was
15:32
based in Dubai and said Mohammed
15:35
agree to extradite this guy in
15:37
exchange for his daughters capture. The
15:39
Indian government deployed boats, helicopters and
15:41
a team of armed commandos to
15:43
store Ministry May and Carola Tisa
15:45
away. Wow. And what happens
15:47
to are they and cleaner and the crew.
15:50
Both. They were all taken back to the you're
15:52
A by see. And. Every was in
15:54
really rough shape. He was
15:56
severely obese and on a producer.
16:00
The way when within the both his
16:02
eyes places I like rolling and he
16:04
he was in some sort of chalk.
16:07
Tina. Says that when as did come. To. He
16:09
was terrified. He was sure he was going to
16:12
be killed. I was more
16:14
like i don't know sad
16:16
that this this plan and
16:18
sales or out was the
16:20
biggest concern for me as
16:22
it's at all say of.
16:29
The triptych days and seen as as as
16:31
they travel both sides of the ocean she
16:33
would just stare at the waves and cry.
16:37
When they reach to buy them blindfolded and
16:39
then looked up in separate cells, Peanut didn't
16:42
know where that he for was, whether she
16:44
was even still allies and he couldn't cool
16:46
anymore. Her family had no idea where she
16:49
was, there were no witnesses to her capture,
16:51
no news about her. Every
16:54
one on buena streamers had just finished.
17:01
Reading a. Rather,
17:09
Sterling, the head of detained. In Dubai
17:11
with him in Spain. Still puzzling over
17:14
the strange case of the runway princess.
17:16
When she received the teeth as Sms
17:18
messages from a Buddha streamer she said
17:20
oh my god, I can hear gunshots.
17:23
I can. Him men outside as. Okay,
17:25
what's going on then suddenly has
17:27
signed. Just a couple of minutes
17:29
later has signed up completely puzzles
17:31
and none of my messages for
17:33
getting through and nothing things treat
17:35
me. Right a second to
17:37
the city's His father had sent men after her
17:40
and her captors. Probably had has fan since
17:42
she sent messages to at sipping that they
17:44
see them. Along the lines of
17:46
in over aware of that he sober
17:48
aware of. Have a sure bet we'd
17:50
know what's happening if we don't get
17:53
confirmation that see his allies and safe
17:55
and well I'm were immediately going to
17:57
release this to read to the world's.
18:00
The beer and make for post the
18:02
authorities and I hope that at least
18:04
if I saw that and they were
18:06
planning to execute them they would cancel
18:08
that plan because they realize okay as
18:10
other people outside he know what's going
18:12
on so we going to get exposed.
18:15
At the time broader was working with a
18:18
lawyer named David. hate speech been imprisoned in
18:20
Dubai. Him says. He'd. Been watching
18:22
for an Investment Sunday when he'd had a
18:24
falling out with his buses and eight accuse
18:26
him of fraud and slander. After that he
18:28
was held for two years and by jails
18:30
where he said he was beaten and raped
18:32
and forced to sign a document in Arabic
18:34
that appeared to be. A full confession.
18:37
David lives in Como now.
18:40
He was driving me the his seafront cottage when
18:42
he told. Me about the night that they'd sms
18:44
messages from the teeth. I came in. He
18:46
said he and Radha didn't want to do
18:48
anything public until they knew what had happened.
18:50
For all they need. Than a stream I might
18:52
have been hit by pirates. And a city
18:54
bus hadn't been captured by her father's man. They
18:56
didn't want to give away where she was. I
18:59
remember we. Were
19:02
all by what they done to them for
19:04
the debt that. Those gonna believe it?
19:07
What the hell do we do now? Detained.
19:10
In the by filed a missing persons report. With
19:12
Scotland Yard and they notified the and
19:14
increased god. that us find your
19:16
had vanished. But. No authority
19:18
would take up the case. And
19:21
then detained in Dubai. Received an email from the lawyer
19:23
in Florida that the t front of a had been.
19:25
In touch with from on board and streamer. It
19:28
contains the video The Zebra had recorded
19:30
before she escaped. David.
19:32
Hague was at a birthday. Party on a cliff top
19:34
in Cornwall. When he got the message. The.
19:36
Phone services. But and he left to
19:39
the he could download the video. I'm fine
19:41
or then why get like four basel stop.
19:44
Almost as the. Hello
19:47
my name as soon as he finds
19:49
of to my. Father is from minister
19:51
of the way and deserve to.
19:53
Be or of device and if
19:55
they get these are watching the
19:57
videos either under his arm. Right
20:00
at issue is. How
20:02
she's like oh my god. Who
20:06
to talk about to talk about
20:08
other the murder is to talk
20:10
about other views as seen through.
20:13
A was basically evidence saying my
20:15
father and his men are very
20:17
bad Thera to me they don't
20:19
be terrible things help save. With
20:21
me in a little should be told
20:23
me that your father told us to
20:25
be Chino and took measurements in my
20:27
life history. But says nothing. Didn't
20:29
respond to public image with his
20:32
two. Females
20:39
united so the books but.
20:42
I knew what was that dynamite
20:44
he has he thought this is
20:46
a nuclear bomb or is the
20:48
new group on the would get
20:50
have her freedom is she was
20:52
still alive and would get. The.
21:02
Group released a video to the media and
21:04
they posted it on the internet. We put
21:06
it on you tube and bit but around
21:08
the world. No. One
21:10
from T Buys royal families had anything
21:12
publicly and response to the video but.
21:14
Soon. Ebay and Tina and the
21:17
Filipino crew members. Were released. Tina.
21:19
Fey to her family's home in Finland. Have
21:22
a sales last time I to Sri Lanka. And
21:24
then the two of them made their
21:26
way to London or new for hi
21:28
everyone and they gave a press conference
21:31
with attained to defy. Mother is seen
21:33
as that he thought my best friend
21:35
Tina was nervous but she told her
21:37
story. And a steady voice Though the
21:39
reason I'm here today because our
21:41
our story to be heard in
21:43
order to lucky fast gets a
21:45
chance for freedom she told to
21:47
report says about her friendship with
21:49
the Tisa. About. The cookware a
21:51
lesson. About how fast the T
21:54
the had been. So shy the have to wear
21:56
a nickname was timid. Has
21:58
he come out of herself when she started? skydiving.
22:01
How Tina had come to love her. Latifah
22:03
is probably the kindest person I know. She
22:07
always goes out of her way to help
22:09
others and she doesn't want to
22:11
take any credit of things that she does for
22:13
others. She also comes
22:15
across as very embarrassed of her family's
22:17
wealth. She's
22:19
very generous though, very down
22:21
to earth. Tina
22:23
told the story of the escape. She
22:26
told how commandos had stormed Nostromo
22:29
and how she'd been taken to Dubai and
22:31
imprisoned and interrogated for hours at a time. I
22:34
was threatened with a death penalty and
22:37
in a better scenario, I would be
22:39
looking at a life in
22:41
prison. And basically
22:43
they didn't believe anything I said. They
22:46
didn't believe that I didn't help Latifah
22:48
because she was my friend. They thought
22:51
I was after some monetary gain
22:54
and they also wanted to know
22:56
which organization was behind this whole
22:58
plan. And in order to
23:01
be released, I was forced
23:03
to make a cause confession
23:06
and sign documents in Arabic and
23:09
agree on a non-disclosure agreement.
23:12
Tina says after she was released, she got
23:14
threatening phone calls. It sounded like the
23:16
same guy who'd been interrogating her. And
23:19
he basically reminded me that Sheikh Mohammed
23:21
can get me anywhere. So
23:23
I wasn't really safe anywhere if
23:25
I would talk, if I
23:27
would give any details about what happened to the
23:30
press. So after my
23:32
release, when I first saw the
23:34
video that was obviously published and
23:36
it was made in my apartment,
23:38
that's where we recorded it. I
23:41
felt very, very emotional and I started
23:43
to cry in front of my family.
23:47
I realized then that I need to
23:49
keep on fighting for her and I
23:51
wish everyone would do
23:53
their best to really help Latifah to
23:55
be free. pretty
24:00
shocking. Does this end up getting a
24:02
lot of media attention? Yeah, the
24:05
story of the runaway princess and the
24:07
French captain and the martial arts instructor
24:09
ran in newspapers and on TV. They
24:12
say she was snatched from this
24:14
yacht by Emirati Special Forces off
24:16
the coast of India as she
24:18
tried to make an extraordinary escape
24:20
from her father and the city
24:22
state he ruled. But Tina and
24:24
Erve's story was greeted with some
24:26
scepticism. An Interpol Red Notice issued
24:28
in March that the UAE's request
24:30
partially confirms their story. But
24:33
the warrant alleges that instead of
24:35
escaping of her own free will,
24:37
Princess Latifa was kidnapped. The
24:40
BBC cast some doubt on the credibility
24:43
of Latifa's supporters and it even aired
24:45
a sort of conspiracy theory that detained
24:47
in Dubai could be getting money from
24:49
Qatar. That this whole thing could
24:51
be part of a standoff between those two
24:53
countries. Could Princess Latifa have
24:55
become a pawn in big power
24:57
politics? The
24:59
government of Dubai told us that for
25:01
legal reasons they were unable to comment
25:04
on the details of the allegations, but
25:06
they said that those making them had
25:08
a track record of criminal activity. In
25:10
spite of all this news coverage of Princess
25:13
Latifa's capture, the UAE government still
25:15
offered no response, no
25:17
comment, no proof that Latifa was even
25:19
alive. Detained in Dubai
25:22
reported her abduction to the United Nations
25:24
and then they worked with the BBC's investigative
25:27
programme Panorama to make a
25:29
documentary about her escape. That
25:32
programme came out in December, nine
25:34
months after Latifa disappeared. The
25:36
Mystery of the Missing Princess The
25:40
documentary's release date coincided with Latifa's
25:43
33rd birthday. It included
25:45
interviews with multiple people who said the
25:47
princess had escaped of her own free
25:49
will and had been violently captured by
25:51
armed men sent by her father. and
26:00
to freedom and look
26:03
what happens and now I don't even know where
26:05
she is. I have the
26:09
greatest concern regarding Latifah
26:11
that she might not even be alive. No
26:17
one's seen her, no one's heard from her. There's
26:20
been no official response from
26:23
the UAE at all. Not
26:25
to us, not to the press, not to
26:27
Amnesty International, not to human rights watch. And
26:30
don't, significantly, not to
26:32
United Nations, not
26:34
to both the UAE and India. Nothing.
26:36
Why would that be? When
26:40
the documentary was released, the Emirati government
26:42
finally issued a public response. This
26:45
was its first acknowledgement that the incident had
26:47
even occurred. It said
26:49
that Latifah had not tried to escape,
26:51
but had been kidnapped by Erve Jauber,
26:54
who'd demanded a ransom of 300 million dollars. The
26:58
statement says, Her Highness Sheikah
27:00
Latifah is now safe in Dubai. She
27:02
and her family are looking forward to celebrating
27:04
her birthday today, in privacy and
27:06
peace. But they
27:08
issued no photos. There was no
27:11
proof that Latifah was celebrating anything. None
27:13
of her friends had heard any word from her. Representatives
27:16
of the United Nations wrote to the
27:19
UAE, demanding information about her whereabouts.
27:22
And then, later that month, the
27:24
UAE released three photos. And
27:27
there was Latifah, sitting at a table
27:29
with plates of food in front of her. And
27:32
next to her was someone quite powerful,
27:35
Mary Robinson. Right,
27:37
you wrote about this in your article. It's
27:39
like a strange scene where Latifah is pictured
27:41
with Mary Robinson, the former president of Ireland.
27:45
Yes, and the former UN High Commissioner for
27:47
Human Rights. Along with the
27:49
photos, the UAE issued a statement. It
27:51
says, President
28:00
of Ireland met with her Highness Sheka
28:02
Latifah in Dubai. Photographs
28:05
taken during the afternoon they spent together
28:07
have been shared with their consent. During
28:10
her visit to Dubai, Mary Robinson was
28:12
reassured that Her Highness Sheka Latifah is
28:14
receiving the necessary care and support she
28:17
requires. This statement
28:19
was met with some scepticism. Mary
28:21
Robinson joins us now, good morning. Good
28:23
morning. A few days later, Mary
28:25
Robinson made an appearance on BBC Radio to
28:27
promote her book about climate change. But
28:29
the interviewer, Michelle Hussein, changed the subject.
28:32
I want to ask you about some
28:34
pictures that were released just in the
28:36
last few days of you in Dubai
28:38
with Sheka Latifah, one of the daughters
28:40
of Dubai's ruler, who
28:42
reportedly tried to escape abroad
28:44
earlier this year and was
28:46
forcibly returned. Why were you
28:48
seen with her? How did that come about? I
28:51
was asked by Princess Haya, whom I've known for
28:53
a long time, who's also known for her marriage.
28:55
Mary Robinson said that she visited the family at
28:58
the request of her friend, Princess Haya. Princess
29:00
Haya was Sheikh Mohammed's sixth and youngest
29:03
wife, Latifah's stepmother. She
29:05
said that Haya had asked her for help with what
29:07
she called a family dilemma. And
29:09
the dilemma was that Latifah is vulnerable,
29:11
she's troubled, she made a video
29:14
that she now
29:16
regrets. Haya had them both
29:18
over to lunch so that Mary Robinson could meet
29:20
Latifah. She's a very likeable
29:23
young woman but clearly troubled, clearly
29:25
needs the medical care that she's
29:27
receiving. You can hear Mary Robinson
29:30
trying to steer the interview back to her book
29:32
about climate and Michelle Hussein not having any of
29:34
it. We talked about climate actually
29:36
because I had given a book, a copy of my climate
29:38
book, to Princess Haya. I just want to ask you about
29:40
what she said in her video, which is seen around the
29:42
world, was that she was in prison for three
29:44
years and tortured repeatedly on her
29:46
return. Michelle Hussein questioned
29:49
whether Mary Robinson can have made a
29:51
realistic assessment of Latifah's welfare when the Princess
29:53
was surrounded by the very family she had
29:55
accused of imprisoning her. wasn't
30:00
with our wider family. She was with
30:02
Princess Hyah and some of Princess Hyah's
30:04
younger family and two
30:06
other people. It wasn't a big number. I was
30:09
very aware of her father. Yes,
30:11
I was very aware of how troubled
30:14
she appeared to be. Mary Robinson
30:16
said Latifah chatted with Hyah's young children
30:19
and they talked about skydiving. We
30:22
talked about climate change and I mentioned that I would
30:24
be back in Dubai in
30:26
early March because my book is promoting
30:28
it at the Emirates Literary
30:31
Festival. I also sent a report that
30:37
evening to
30:40
Michelle Bachelet, the current High Commissioner for
30:42
Human Rights. Michelle Bachelet
30:44
was Mary Robinson's successor at the UN
30:47
and Mary Robinson says she assured the High
30:49
Commissioner that Latifah was in the loving care
30:51
of her family. I think you have
30:53
to bear in mind that this is a troubled young woman
30:55
who has a serious medical
30:58
situation she's receiving, psychiatric
31:00
care, and they
31:03
don't want her to endure any more publicity. In
31:06
later interviews Robinson said that she'd been told
31:08
that Latifah suffered from bipolar disorder and that
31:10
she didn't know how to talk with somebody who had
31:12
that condition. So she didn't
31:14
ask Latifah about her escape or what
31:16
her life was like now. She said,
31:19
quote, I really didn't actually
31:21
want to talk to her and increase the
31:23
trauma over a nice lunch. The
31:26
photographs of the lunch were published in newspapers around
31:29
the world. In the pictures
31:31
Robinson is smiling but Latifah isn't.
31:34
She looks dazed and pale, hunched
31:36
over in a dark hoodie. She's
31:39
not looking at the camera. Latifah's
31:41
friends were relieved to see that she was alive
31:43
but she didn't look okay. And if she was
31:46
okay, why hadn't they heard from her? The
31:50
silence stretched on. Tina
31:56
told me that she used to get a lot of messages on Facebook
31:58
about Latifah. People would reach
32:01
out to ask about her or to offer to help. There
32:04
were hoaxes, people pretending to be Latifah.
32:07
But one day, a year after
32:09
Latifah's abduction, Tina got
32:11
a message that seemed different. It
32:13
was like, are you Tina? Then,
32:16
you know, these security questions, like
32:19
what did she give you at the birthday present
32:21
and here or so and so. And
32:23
I just went like, oh my God, oh my God. Tina
32:26
gave the person the right answers about
32:29
the birthday present and Latifah's nicknames and
32:32
the sender wrote. I'm
32:34
sorry, I'm shaking now, Ms. Tina. I'm
32:37
scared to help Ms. Latifah, but
32:39
she's very kind to me. And
32:41
then the writer sent a photo of
32:44
a letter from Latifah. That's
32:58
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