Women who run countries have been getting a lot of claps on the back for their leadership during this Pandemic--not only their inclusive, unifying approach but the results--lower infection rates, higher protections for health workers, better tech, greater commitment to the greater good. I have especially loved reading about the leader of New Zealand, Jacinta Ardern and her calm, decisive, empathetic “team New Zealand” approach. An approach literally a world away from what we’re seeing in Washington DC.

In a recent episode of The Broad Experience, a podcast about women, the workplace and success, host Ashley Milne-Tyte explores how today’s successful women leaders like Jacinta Ardern can make a more permanent change for how we view women in leadership.

As part of the Inflection Point summer swap series, here’s that The Broad Experience episode.