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#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

Released Tuesday, 11th June 2024
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#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

#146: Quickly Remove Reverb From a Drum Loop with Logic Pro's Most Overlooked Plugin

Tuesday, 11th June 2024
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0:00

What's up Inside the Mix ? It's your boy Dream

0:02

Commander . Just wanted to give

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a brief shout out to the Producer Growth Scorecard

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. As an artist , it easily helps

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me stay actively producing , motivated

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and accountable to my goals . So

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check me out on Instagram . And now

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for the Inside the Mix podcast with your

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host , mark Matthews . You're

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listening to the Inside the Mix podcast with your host , mark Matthews

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. Hello and welcome to the Inside the Mix podcast with your host , mark Matthews .

0:27

Hello and welcome to the Inside the Mix podcast

0:29

. I'm Mark Matthews , your host

0:31

, musician , producer and mix and mastering

0:34

engineer . You've come to the right place if

0:36

you want to know more about your favorite synth music

0:38

artists , music engineering and production

0:40

, songwriting and the music industry

0:43

. I've been writing , producing , mixing and mastering

0:45

music for over 15 years and I want to

0:47

share what I've learnt with you . Hello

0:49

, folks , and welcome to the Inside

0:51

the Mix podcast . If you are a

0:53

new listener a big welcome . Make

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sure you hit that follow button on your podcast

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player of choice and if you're watching this on YouTube

1:00

, make sure you hit subscribe and that notification

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bell so you get notified when a new episode drops

1:05

. So busy times here at Casa

1:08

Inside the Mix slash Synth

1:10

Music Mastery , my fiance and I we've

1:12

actually just started looking for

1:14

a new house , so we're going to upstick

1:16

and move from where we are still in the same area

1:18

in Devon but we're actually looking at moving

1:21

. So that whole process has started

1:23

and if you're listening to

1:25

this and you live in the UK , you know how long

1:27

this process takes once you get solicitors

1:29

and everything else involves . It's a long

1:31

, long process . A bit of a ball , like to be honest

1:33

, but it would be worth it in the end so I can

1:35

get a bigger studio space . I say a bigger

1:38

studio space like I need it . To be honest , where I

1:40

have now is more than ample , but

1:42

I want to take the studio

1:44

. So at the moment I'm paying rent for a studio premises

1:46

right but I want to take it back in-house

1:48

. So I'm not paying somebody else's mortgage

1:51

or somebody else's sort of lease

1:53

fee , if you will . So

1:55

, yeah , exciting times for that . And also it

1:58

will mean that I'll have more space so I can get this bloody

2:00

reel-to-reel going as well . I've had it for ages it's

2:02

been sat in a corner just gathering dust

2:04

and I want to get it up and running so I can

2:06

actually have some tape

2:08

real tape emulation happening

2:11

, folks . So at the same time as all that

2:13

happening , my limited series podcast

2:15

. I'm halfway through the creation process

2:17

of it . So I've done drums and I've done bass and

2:19

I've started on vocals . So after

2:22

that it's going to be synth and then effects . So it's going

2:24

to be an entirely free limited series podcast

2:26

and you'll be able to get it on all podcast

2:28

platforms and you'll be able to watch the accompanying

2:31

videos on my website as

2:33

well , so you can head over to synthmusicmasteringcom

2:35

and watch all that and , as I say , it's going to be all free . I'm going

2:37

to shove the project folder

2:39

and also that's the completed

2:41

one , and

2:45

also that's the completed one , and also you'll be able to start from fresh , the stems and

2:47

what else is going to be there the template as well , the mixing template so you'll be able to

2:49

get all of that for free , and I

2:51

had wanted to

2:54

get it out by the end of June

2:56

, but I think I'm going to have to push it back slightly

2:58

. But keep an eye out for that one , and I'll be releasing

3:01

more bits and pieces as the as the weeks go

3:03

on with regards to release dates and whatnot . So exciting

3:05

times for that too . So the final bit of news

3:08

is this and I said I was going to give it a shout out to

3:10

this individual and an album

3:12

was released a couple of weeks ago . So

3:14

at the time this goes live , it would be a couple of weeks , maybe

3:17

three weeks and it's by a friend

3:19

of mine called Bending Grid , who I've been chatting

3:21

to for ages now and I

3:23

know he's been working really hard on this album

3:25

and we've been back and forth and whatnot . Anyway

3:27

, I digress . So he's released this album called Parallax

3:30

and it is an absolute belter of

3:32

an album . I can't get enough of it . It's

3:34

probably my favorite release of 2024

3:36

. And there's one song in particular on there

3:38

called Vampires , which is an absolute

3:41

banger . So

3:47

, folks , I implore you , I encourage you , to go search for Bending Grid on Spotify and you will not

3:49

be disappointed by the Parallax album . It is an absolute belter

3:51

of an album , easily my favourite of 2024

3:53

. So let's dive into this episode

3:56

. It's a tutorial episode and

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it follows up episode 145

4:01

, where we were looking at the envelope

4:03

and we were manipulating the

4:05

transients of a drum , a

4:08

snare drum , and in this

4:10

what we did was or rather that episode we boosted

4:12

the attack portion . The attack transient

4:15

, okay , so we can add some more

4:17

punch to a snare . So now we're

4:19

going to look at the other side of the envelope

4:21

and that is the release side . So in

4:23

episode 145 we looked at the attack

4:25

. This time we're going to be looking at the release

4:27

and what we can do with that and , in particular

4:30

, what we can do with a drum

4:32

loop and a drum loop that is

4:34

for one of a better way of putting it drenched

4:36

in reverb . So we're going to remove

4:39

. We're going to attenuate that reverb

4:41

using the release portion of

4:43

the envelope . So let's dive in . So here we are

4:45

in logic pro and I've got the envelope

4:48

or envelope , however you want to pronounce it

4:50

open here and I've got this drum loop

4:52

and I'm going to play this drum loop without

4:55

the envelope on . So bypass . So here

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we go . So

5:07

hopefully you can hear that there's a lot of reverb on the toms , on the snare

5:09

and some other percussion in there as well , and we're

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gonna use the envelope now to attenuate

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and reduce that reverb . So

5:16

let's enable the envelope and I've

5:18

got the default settings here at the moment , and

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the first parameter we need to look at is the threshold

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. So if you've watched episode 145 , you'll be familiar

5:25

with it . But basically just set it at minus

5:27

100 dB and that way any

5:36

signal that exceeds that threshold is going to have its attack and release portion of that

5:38

single . That envelope is going to be manipulated by the envelope here . So just

5:40

set it at minus 100 . Obviously you can change

5:42

it , but for the default in this instance

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, for what we're doing , we'll just leave it at minus 100

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. And the look ahead as well it's at one millisecond

5:49

. You can probably drag that down to zero . I don't particularly

5:52

need it in this because there's not a lot of

5:54

intricate transient stuff going

5:56

on that I need the look ahead for . So the next

5:58

parameter we're going to look at is the gain

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slider on this envelope

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for this release section . And

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if we boost the gain , it's going to

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extenuate the release phase

6:09

of the signal , and if we reduce the

6:11

gain , it's going to attenuate the

6:13

release phase of the signal and thus it

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will become drier . And you'll see what I mean

6:18

. We're going to remove that reverb , we're going to attenuate

6:20

that release phase of

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this drum loop and it will start to sound drier

6:24

. So I'm going to drag it all the way down gradually

6:27

, and you'll see what I mean . So

6:38

I dragged it all the way down to minus

6:40

100% and it

6:42

was too much . It's too much , right . What I'm going to do is I'm going

6:44

to drag it back up and find a happy medium between

6:46

it sounding dry , but I also still

6:48

want to hear . Well , I want to hear more

6:51

of that release phase of this signal

6:53

, otherwise it just sounds too cut off , right . So

6:55

I'm going to drag it back up . We're probably looking at about minus

6:58

50 to minus 60%

7:01

. So let's give it a go . So

7:13

I settled on minus 60% . So

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we can still hear some of that reverb

7:18

, certainly not as much as before , but

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I'm hearing more of the release phase as well . So

7:22

the release time is the time it takes

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for the signal at maximum gain

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to fall to the threshold level

7:29

, basically , which in this instance is minus

7:31

100 dB , and I'm going to gradually

7:34

increase it just to tighten up that

7:36

reverb tail . But I still want

7:38

that release phase of

7:40

the signal . So it's at 200 milliseconds

7:42

at the moment and I'm going to gradually increase

7:45

it until it just tightens up

7:47

that reverb tail . So

7:57

I've got it set there 660

7:59

milliseconds . I'm happy with that at the moment because

8:02

I can imagine if I were to put this loop in a whole mix

8:04

. There's still a tiny bit of reverb

8:06

there , but it's certainly less than what was before , and it would

8:08

get lost in the mix , basically lost in the shuffle

8:10

. Let's say so . Let's A-B it . So

8:12

I'll disable the envelope . I'm going to play

8:14

it without , and this is what it sounds like . So

8:22

those toms , you can really hear the reverb . So listen out

8:24

for the toms . So , and I'm

8:26

going to turn the envelope on . So

8:28

listen

8:33

out for the toms again , you can really hear that reverb

8:35

tail is gone . Yeah

8:39

, it's really attenuated that . So Logic's

8:41

unsung hero , the envelope

8:44

. We can use the attack to

8:46

boost the attack phase of a signal to add

8:48

a bit of thwacks and punch . And we

8:50

can use the release phase , or the release

8:52

side of this envelope , manipulate the

8:54

release phase , to then remove

8:57

reverb from a drum loop . Give it a go , folks

8:59

, the unsung hero , the often overlooked

9:01

envelope in Logic Pro . And before

9:03

you go , folks , if you haven't done so already

9:06

, check out episode 145

9:08

, where we look at the left-hand side of the envelope

9:10

and how we can manipulate the attack

9:12

phase of a signal to add a bit of punch

9:15

and thwack , as I just mentioned . So go check

9:17

out episode 145 if you haven't done so already

9:19

.

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