Jim Pugh and Owen Poindexter hosted the Basic Income Podcast from 2016 to 2020, a wealth of information on and beyond Universal Basic Income. In this episode, we discuss where we are right now in the UBI movement, as we slowly emerge out of the pandemic into a new world.

Jim Pugh is a co-founder of the Universal Income Project, working to drive a larger popular narrative around basic income. He is also the founder and CEO of ShareProgress, a social-good startup that helps progressive organizations use the power of data and technology to grow their base and win their campaigns.Owen Poindexter is a writer focused on sports, finance, and technology. His work has appeared in Wired, Slate, Forbes, The Athletic, GreenBiz Media, and In These Times, among others.