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Thursday. In 1980, while

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El Salvador sat on the brink

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1:41

the fragile peace, Archbishop Oscar Romero.

1:44

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1:58

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10:01

it must have been 3 in the morning at this

10:03

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10:05

have been left scratching their heads. But

10:07

I don't think anyone saw us. Residential

10:10

Burbank Streets, 3am? Nah.

10:14

The lights were all off at Ale's house when

10:17

we pushed our carts onto his lawn, but we

10:19

could still hear corny, candy-billing music coming through the

10:21

door, which wasn't locked. Charelle

10:23

let herself in without knocking. The

10:26

living room was dimly lit by a few candles

10:28

and it smelled like unwashed people getting it on,

10:31

which they had been doing until pretty recently. There

10:34

were candy necklaces and cowboy hats everywhere,

10:37

along with the bodies. One

10:40

of the bodies rolled over and squinted at us.

10:43

Ola Ale, Charelle said. He was

10:45

pretty if you liked him pretty. And

10:48

when he wasn't being stupid, he was pretty smart,

10:50

which was more than you could say of most of the boys I'd

10:52

known. It wasn't crazy for

10:54

Charelle to like him, even if he was 100%

10:57

destined to crash land in the

10:59

land of lost losers forever. Charelle?

11:02

He scrambled to his feet, using a pillow to cover

11:04

himself. Jesus, give me a sec.

11:07

He gave us a view of his ass as he made

11:09

his way to his bedroom and then came back out, wearing

11:12

a pair of jeans and nothing else. You

11:14

guys are a little late. Party ended a

11:16

couple hours ago. Charelle sucked

11:18

her teeth. We didn't come here

11:20

for your party, Alejandro. We're on a mission.

11:24

He shook his head. I don't like the sound of

11:26

that. You're going to love it, fool. Shut up

11:28

and listen. Charelle didn't

11:30

bother him with the little incriminating details. Just

11:32

hit the high points. There were

11:34

50 shopping carts parked on his lawn, the

11:37

greatest shopping carts ever made. They

11:39

were a gift to Burbank's homeless people. Don't

11:42

need to know where they came from, but we got to give them

11:44

out on the down low. And

11:47

that's where you and your no good friends come into the

11:49

picture. We need a street crew. I count

11:51

10 of you. That's five shopping carts each.

11:54

Call it an hour's work. You

11:56

all have incurred quite a debt to society

11:58

tonight with your debauchery and is

14:00

what funds our entire life. So

14:03

thank you, you know? Thank

14:05

you, no one else. From

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that guy on the forklift is doing good.

19:34

Yeah, proud of you. Proud

19:36

of you, buddy. Sleeping

19:40

on the streets in Burbank is against the law.

19:42

And if you can't pay the fine, you go

19:44

to jail. The city's homeless

19:46

aren't easy to find after dark, but there

19:48

are a few places that are reliable. The

19:50

food bank, the soup kitchen, the library parking

19:53

lot. It's been years since

19:55

the library opened its doors, but they kept the

19:57

free internet. We

19:59

split. into four groups of two. I figured

20:02

that Chirél would go with Ale, but she's surprised

20:04

by linking arms with me. Library?

20:06

I covered my surprise

20:08

and shrugged. I guess. I

20:10

looked at her. How come you're not with Ale? He's

20:13

with Serena. That was the girl we'd woken up at

20:15

the start when we got Ale. They

20:18

a thing? She shook her head. Not

20:20

a thing, but you know, a thing tonight. Not

20:23

my place to get it between them. Chirél,

20:25

what's going on with you that fool? She

20:28

pinched my arm. Nothing you need to

20:30

worry about. She shook her head. Look,

20:32

he's pretty, and when he's not high, he's

20:34

pretty smart, too. But Ale

20:36

Martinez isn't any kind of boyfriend material.

20:39

He's okay for relieving tension, you know, having a little

20:41

fun. But I'm not about to tie myself up

20:43

to him. Look at him. Those

20:46

clothes, I stifled a laugh. He'd even

20:48

put on the miniature cowboy hat. That's

20:51

why I only ever see him at his house. He's

20:53

not much good on the outside. But I'm

20:56

private. I shook my head. Chirél

20:58

and I told each other everything, except it

21:00

seemed like we didn't. Not always.

21:03

Graduation was weeks away. Days, really. And I'd assumed

21:05

that whatever happened with the rest of the fools

21:07

I'd been locked up with since I was five,

21:09

I was going to be tight with Chirél forever.

21:13

But she knew I thought Ale was a half-wit, and

21:15

so she hadn't told me about him. And

21:17

Ale was a half-wit. Plus, he was hooking up with

21:19

other girls right in front of her. She

21:21

deserved better than that. A day

21:24

before, I'd have had the impulse to

21:26

tell Chirél that she was being more stupid than she

21:28

had any excuse to be. Today,

21:30

I felt like I'd just noticed a huge gap

21:32

between us. But maybe it had been there

21:34

all along. We were besties, but we were

21:36

also about to be graduates. Did

21:39

grads have besties? We

21:42

pushed our snake of carts to the library,

21:44

the Buena Vista branch, where there were a

21:46

handful of permanent-ish homeless tents and a larger

21:48

population of rotating homeless leeching off the Wi-Fi

21:51

and the power outlet set into the concrete

21:53

benches. Someone had to use cold chisels

21:55

to smash out the dividers that were supposed to stop

21:57

you from sleeping on them. There

22:00

were a lot of spaces in Beebank where you could

22:02

get busted for sleeping out, but everyone knew that the

22:04

homeless ruled the Buena Vista branch in its park. The

22:07

wheels whispered as we steered them carefully up

22:09

the driveway, past the old night deposit

22:12

box for books, dentined and fire

22:14

blackened in the harsh yellow street lights.

22:18

I guess it pays to be a light sleeper when you're

22:20

homeless. By the time we reached the

22:22

middle of the parking lot, the wheels whisper had woken

22:24

up at least a dozen people, silhouetted

22:26

and sitting up on benches or in the

22:28

grass, raped in blank gets are wrapped in

22:30

sleeping bags. We

22:33

stopped. They looked at us and we looked

22:35

back. I felt like we were expected

22:37

to give a speech or something. We

22:40

come in peace. These are for you.

22:42

A person stood. She

22:44

was a white lady, not much older than me. She

22:46

came closer. I realized I

22:48

recognized her. She'd been a

22:50

senior my freshman year. She

22:52

didn't look good. No obvious bruises

22:54

or track marks. And she

22:57

wasn't that dirty, but still. She

22:59

didn't look good. She smiled

23:01

at me and nodded her head like, can I help you?

23:05

Uh, hi. I

23:07

wish Harelle would say something. I snuck her

23:09

a look. She had checked out

23:11

looking glazed and tired and like someone who danced

23:13

her ass off and scared herself to death and

23:15

also was struggling with a shitty boyfriend. Hello.

23:19

She had a great voice. I couldn't remember her name, but

23:21

a clear picture came to me. Her singing

23:24

in front of the school jazz band at an assembly.

23:27

Uh, I gestured at the shopping carts. Between

23:30

us, we'd pushed 40. What if

23:32

there were a lot more people than carts? Would

23:34

we trigger a riot? Would we have to decide? Uh,

23:38

good work, Lynne. That AP forensics really did

23:40

the trick. We

23:42

made these. They're really good, lightweight,

23:44

strong, durable. I waved my

23:47

hands over them like I was on a home shopping video.

23:49

Neat. Her

23:51

voice was lovely. Her hair was limp

23:53

and stringy and there was something wrong with the way she

23:56

looked at me squinting. And she wore

23:58

glasses in high school. I wanted to wear glasses. I wondered what

24:00

had happened to them. Thought about how

24:02

little difference a better shopping cart would make to someone

24:04

who could barely see. She squinted

24:06

harder at me. You go to Burbank

24:08

High, don't you? I nodded. Yes,

24:11

ma'am. They made her smile. Pretty

24:14

smile. Is this like a

24:17

shop project or something? I

24:19

shook my head. Nothing like

24:21

that. I looked around. It was,

24:24

well, a factory in Encino was shutting

24:26

down, so we had a Communist Party there. You

24:28

made these. You

24:30

had a Communist Party? She really did have

24:33

a pretty smile. That's epic. And you

24:35

made these? Kids today, you're so

24:37

ingenious. Give me hope for the future. Charell

24:40

giggled a little at that. Welcome back,

24:42

Charell. We made them for you.

24:45

All of you. The white lady nodded. When

24:48

do you graduate? This month,

24:51

she nodded again. What are you doing

24:53

after? I'm going to

24:55

Glendale Community College for an associates and

24:57

business administration. Then I was

24:59

going to try for financial aid at Northridge. I'd

25:01

said this so many times to so many people, it just

25:03

tumbled out. I want to stay close

25:05

to home, save money. She

25:08

nodded. That's exactly what I did. Straight

25:10

A's all the way. Watch out for calculus for

25:12

finance majors. It's brutal. I

25:16

felt like I'd been punched in the gut. I

25:18

didn't know how she'd ended up sleeping on a park

25:20

bench, but I hadn't thought that maybe it involved getting

25:22

the same kinds of grades I was hoping to get.

25:27

Well, I swallowed hard

25:29

because my eyes were threatening to overflow with tears.

25:31

Deep breath. I don't

25:34

know if you all can use these, but

25:36

we hope maybe you could. They're really

25:38

good. Light. Strong. They

25:42

look really good. She was being polite. She

25:44

had good manners. Thank you. Can

25:47

we, I mean, can we leave them with

25:49

you to give out? She

25:52

smiled and looked understanding. Like,

25:56

oh honey, you have no idea. But also, but

25:58

you will. I'm sure

26:01

I can figure something out." We

26:03

walked away in silence, but once

26:05

we were out of earshot, Shurelle said, "'You

26:08

think she's going to try and sell them? I mean,

26:10

to the other people?" I

26:12

scowled at her. I was so unaccountably

26:14

pissed at her, but she was just

26:16

being Shurelle. No dummy, she was going to give

26:18

them away to her friends. It was

26:21

dawn now, pretty and pink, and the birds were waking

26:23

up and saying hello to each other at the tops

26:25

of their voices. Shurelle,

26:28

what are you doing after graduation? Girl,

26:31

I'm going to sleep in every morning for a month. But

26:34

after that, you mean college?

26:37

Yeah. We turned

26:39

left on Magnolia, the fancy stores for

26:42

their 24-hour security guards. Some

26:44

of those guys had familiar faces. A

26:46

couple years before, they'd been seniors too.

26:49

They were the lucky ones. The unlucky

26:51

ones were barely visible, wrapped in blankets

26:53

and curled up real small behind signboards

26:55

and trash cans. Some of

26:57

them would have familiar faces. But

27:01

only because they didn't take advantage of

27:03

these deals. That's

27:05

right. If you want to stay off

27:07

the streets or on the streets, but in a

27:09

way that's like a nice street, you know, like,

27:12

what's a good street? Sunset Boulevard.

27:14

Yeah. Yeah. Sunset

27:16

Boulevard. That one's from the songs. Yeah.

27:20

There's a Sisters of Mercy song about it, I like. Sure.

27:23

That's probably a happy song, I'd imagine. Yeah,

27:25

Sisters of Mercy, famously happy band. All

27:28

right. Well, I'm going to just

27:30

assume that and go ahead with my

27:32

life, scheduling music to play during this

27:34

birthday party. It

27:38

was my birthday party to play Sisters of Mercy,

27:40

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KT Studios, the number one

27:49

podcast, The Idaho Massacre

27:52

is back. The new developments in

27:55

the University of Idaho murder case. It

27:58

was an unimaginable crime. In

28:01

the early morning of November 13th, 2022, four

28:05

University of Idaho students killed.

28:10

Police have no suspect and no

28:12

murder weapon. A nationwide manhunt captivates

28:15

the world. Moscow

28:18

PD saying today they're now looking for

28:20

a white, Honda Elantra, then a shocking

28:22

arrest. There is now a

28:24

suspect in custody. This is a PhD

28:27

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28:30

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28:33

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28:35

face death. Listen

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28:40

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28:42

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28:48

The Medal of Honor is the highest

28:50

military decoration in the United States awarded

28:53

for gallantry and bravery in combat at

28:55

the risk of life above and beyond

28:58

the call of duty. Since

29:00

it was established in 1861, there

29:02

had been 3,517 people awarded with the Medal. I'm

29:09

Malcolm Gladwell, and our new podcast

29:11

from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Media

29:13

is about those heroes. What

29:15

they did, what it meant, and

29:17

what their stories tell us about the

29:20

nature of courage and sacrifice. Without

29:24

him and the leadership that he exhibited

29:26

in bringing those boats in and assembling

29:28

them to begin with and bringing them

29:30

in, it saved a hell

29:32

of a lot of lives, including my own.

29:35

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29:37

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29:40

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29:42

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the writer of Amazon Prime's Red, White,

29:52

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29:55

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29:57

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30:00

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30:02

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30:05

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30:07

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30:09

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30:16

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30:19

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30:25

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30:43

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30:57

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31:00

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31:02

said that they took her and the next

31:05

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31:12

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31:14

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31:16

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31:18

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31:20

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31:23

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31:25

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31:27

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31:30

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31:32

family Mine because

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on this journey, I found out

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that we had more secrets than I knew Listen

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all know what that music means

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is somebody getting coordinated no It's

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time for the Olympics in Paris.

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The opening ceremony for the 2024 Paris Games is

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coming on July 26th. Who

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are these athletes? When are the

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games they're playing? You may be

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looking for the sports experts to

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answer those questions, but we're not

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that. Well, what are we? We're

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two guys. I'm Matt Rogers. And

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I'm Bowen Yang. And we're doing

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an Olympics podcast? Uh, yeah. We're

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hosting the two guys five rings

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podcast. You get the two guys,

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us, to start every podcast, then

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the five rings come after. Watch

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every moment of the 2024 Paris

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Olympics beginning July

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26th on NBC and Peacock. And for the

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first time, you can stream the 2024 Paris

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Games on the iHeartRadio

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app. And listen to two guys five

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rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Well,

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I hope eight-year-old Kindle from Duluth enjoys

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the birthday party soundtrack I put together

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featuring that Sisters of Mercy song and

33:07

also a minute and a half of me explaining to you

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that I'm going to put music in the little boy's

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birthday. After that, it's pure ska, baby. Do

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you ever find yourself, like, in

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regular conversations and wanting

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to pivot to ads? Like, is it just

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like, you know, regular conversations and wanting to

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pivot to ads? Like, it just gets to

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you. It's like how I

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imagine a great baseball player, Nolan

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Ryan, sometimes he just throws a ball as hard

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as he fucking can. Like, it

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probably comes out of nowhere unless you know him. Then you're just

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like, oh, that's Nolan. He throws

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a speedball every now and again. He can't stop himself.

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Too good at it. Yeah.

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Well, now that we're back from those ads, college,

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she blew air out. My mom has been asking me

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about that, too. But you

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got into Glendale, C.C., right? Yeah,

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I got in. She linked her arm with me. Every

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time I saw one in the weeks afterward, I

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felt a little warm tingle. I

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made that. I was 18 years

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old and I had finally had something to show for the years

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I had been walking around on the earth. The

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Communist Party at Steelbridge didn't make the news, but

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the kids who'd been there gossiped about it, and

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I was the coolest girl in school the last

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month. A couple times I got

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to deny having anything to do with it when impressionable

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freshmen came up to me and asked if it was

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true I had organized the whole thing. I

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coasted along towards graduation on autopilot.

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My finals were all done, my acceptance letter

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from Glendale, CC was stuck to the fridge

36:35

and with it, the letter pre-approving

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my student loan. Every

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time I looked at it, I got the opposite feeling to

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the one I got when I saw one of those shopping

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carts. Mama

36:47

paid for the gown and mortarboard rental for my

36:49

graduation and Tisha made fun of me as I

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tried it on in the mirror. When

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my phone twipped at me that night at 3am and

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I answered it, Tisha mouthed, I'm

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telling like she always did and I rolled

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my eyes like I always did. Shiro,

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you're going to get me killed. Mama isn't joking.

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Lynne, then along silence. You

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okay? That

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walk away you met at the party, with the hair?

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Yeah, I got a light feeling in my head, a

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light feeling in my guts. You

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still know how to get in touch with her, not

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a question. Yeah, Tisha

37:28

stared at me hard, she could tell from that one

37:31

word, something was up. Shiro,

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you're not gonna, you

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could come too. Like

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I hadn't thought that thought at least once a

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day for weeks and weeks, every time I thought

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about graduation, every time I looked at that letter

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on the fridge. Shiro,

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it'd be an adventure, the adventure.

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What do you have to lose? I

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looked at Tisha, she had always been

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my mini me and Tagalong had turned into a

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truly good person while I watched Funny and Sweet.

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watching is a lot of people in

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my periphery who maybe made it

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to their mid 30s, like sometimes hanging out with

42:06

people who'd sort of gone walk away. But

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then didn't themselves are starting to have this like

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third life crisis, you

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know, instead of midlife crisis, where

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they're like, Oh, like

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maybe fuck these student loans and maybe like,

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fuck this end live could have been predicted,

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I guess, as a vibe. And

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it's hard because it's like, I'll do talks

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at colleges, right? And people will be like,

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Hey, what do you think about college? People

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have straight up asked me at talks being

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like, should I drop out of college? Yeah.

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And I've been like, look, I have no regrets

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about the fact that I dropped out of college,

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I cannot recommend in good conscience, one way or

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the other, what people do with their lives around

42:47

that kind of stuff. Because I

42:49

want it's like this like feeling of weight, where I'm like,

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I don't know what you're dealing with. Well, if you're just

42:54

screwed with a bunch of debt, maybe you should finish and

42:56

get the degree at this, you know, who knows, right? It's

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gonna be different for everyone. I'm still

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grateful for the decisions I made. But

43:03

also like, I've got a

43:05

lot of dead friends. I was like, Oh,

43:07

I'm gonna go off and live this adventurous, risky life.

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And a bunch of the people around me died in their

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20s. You know? Yeah,

43:13

I think all the time about the line from

43:15

a rainy night in Soho, one of Shane McGowan's

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great songs, we watched our friends

43:20

grow up together and we saw them as they

43:22

fell. Some of them fell into heaven, some of

43:24

them fell into hell. And

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it's one of those lines that a

43:29

few times a year I'll get news about

43:31

somebody and that will just ring.

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Who knows, right? It's gonna be

43:36

different for everyone. I'm still grateful for the decisions

43:38

I made, but also like I've

43:41

got a lot of dead friends. I was

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like, Oh, I'm gonna go off and live this

43:45

adventurous, risky life. And a bunch of the people

43:47

around me died in their 20s, you know? Yeah,

43:50

I think all the time about the line from

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a rainy night in Soho, one of Shane McGowan's

43:54

great songs, we watched our friends

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grow up together and we saw them as they fell.

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Some of them fell into heaven.