0:00

So look, I ain't gonna hold you. I

0:02

was not going to cover this because

0:04

I feel like it's something that needs to be discussed at

0:06

the Domino te what to cook out, you know, and

0:08

I just don't want to feed the machine. But

0:12

at some point we gotta decide whose man is

0:14

this? And somebody gotta come come

0:16

get their boy. Yee. We

0:18

got to decide, okay,

0:20

when when did he cross the line? Y'all? And

0:23

has he crossed the line? Because you

0:25

know, the important nuance

0:27

to this is is how

0:30

we've survived as collective you

0:32

know, slaves like the you

0:35

know, we we needed each other to survive. So

0:37

when somebody got out of line, we looked out for each

0:39

other. You know. The I don't know if you know

0:41

this, but corn rows, like the braids inside of people's

0:44

hair were maps, you

0:46

know. The Negro spirituals

0:48

you you you sang songs as code for when

0:50

it was time to go. Harriet Tubman when she

0:52

got free, you know, she escaped herself

0:55

and then decided, I'm gonna go back and get as many

0:57

people as I can, like this is this is our story.

0:59

We take care of each other. So that's why it's hard

1:01

for us to just write people off to just cancel,

1:04

especially if they're black. It's hard

1:06

for us because it's like, we need to

1:08

take care of each other. We can't let these white people like

1:10

tell us what to do with our folks. But that

1:13

being said, at some point we're like, all right, nigga,

1:15

you are on your own. You

1:17

have hurt us too much. And

1:20

I never so I didn't want to cover Yea

1:23

because I still don't know how I feel. There

1:26

are some statements that he said are obviously

1:28

inexcusable, but I just

1:30

didn't want to be a part of that. I want to be a part of that

1:32

conversation. The Kanye stands

1:35

and I'm done with these people. I just don't

1:37

want to be a part of conversation. But Sophie

1:39

hit me and the good folks that it

1:41

can happen here here and was like, yo, uh,

1:43

we got to talk about this, and I was like, all right, I

1:46

was on the fence. We need

1:48

to talk about it. Yo. Whose man's is this,

1:50

y'all? Somebody come get their

1:52

boy. So it's a crossover

1:54

with the Tommy Garrison Robert

1:57

and it could happen here. Team Sharine and

2:00

we discussed this stuff. So dropping

2:02

in our feed and they feed it

2:04

could happen here politics, that's

2:07

rock. I'm

2:14

just waiting for Kanye's gnostic

2:17

phase. That will probably be good, a

2:19

good develop good as

2:22

soon as it starts being Let stop talking about

2:24

Sophia, And

2:26

I'm excited for when he runs for president

2:29

uh and then declares his

2:32

opponent to be We

2:38

were on the same track there. It's

2:41

gonna be a good day. Welcome

2:43

to it could happen here. In the podcast, what

2:46

are we talking about Kanye West's

2:49

inevitable war against the demi

2:51

urge? Oh my gosh,

2:54

we joined again by Shrine and prop

2:58

So we just talked about kind kanye

3:00

S history up towards his most recent

3:03

White Lives Matter T shirt stunt and his anti

3:05

semitic posts on Instagram and

3:07

Twitter dot com. And my main interest

3:10

in the aftermath of these statements is

3:12

kind of mostly how right wing media

3:14

reacted to what was going on in to one

3:16

of their darling's kind of saying some

3:19

questionable things, and what

3:21

that might tell us about how they'll handle

3:23

overt anti semitism and fascistic

3:26

um kind of consumerism in

3:28

the future. I'm going to do

3:30

a quote from New Republic again about

3:33

what happened in the direct aftermath

3:36

of of Kanye West's posts

3:38

quote. Fox News meanwhile posted

3:41

an article that West merely had been

3:43

locked out of his account due to an unspecific

3:45

violation of the company's policies. After

3:48

spending such a fulesome number of hours

3:50

providing him with the platform for his White Lives Matter

3:52

stunt, the network a shewed coverage

3:54

of his anti semitism, other than to

3:56

point to it as the product of mental

3:58

illness. The

4:01

effort to sweep the second round of

4:03

nasty bigotry under the rug after celebrating

4:05

the initial outpouring is breathtakingly

4:08

cynical, but not particularly surprising.

4:10

The fact that West was at least for now

4:13

d platform from social media accounts

4:15

that he was using to traffic hate speech is

4:18

in itself catnip for far

4:20

right figures and unquote,

4:23

so many a far right grifter has tried to turn

4:25

this into a free speech issue.

4:28

Um. However, Kanye

4:30

associate and Fashion Week White

4:33

Lives Matter buddy Canadas Owens tried

4:35

to deny the anti semitism

4:37

altogether. Within days

4:40

of his Twitter rant. Candace

4:42

Owens on her Daily Wire podcast

4:46

was defending Kanye saying quote

4:48

death Con three should

4:50

be interpreted as a move to protect

4:53

the Jewish people after all,

4:56

because because because def con is

4:58

a defensive military

5:00

category, not an offensive

5:02

military category. See, these

5:05

are the words of a deeply un serious person.

5:08

Exactly, I'll be in a very a very

5:10

dangerous one, but deeply un

5:12

serious. This is that's

5:15

this is. It's those things. Okay,

5:18

be conservative, I think, however

5:20

you want. But it's that stuff

5:23

that is so infuriating to me

5:25

where I'm like, you

5:28

know, you

5:31

do not sit across the table from me, you

5:35

know, you know, and it's like, okay, just

5:37

I just like, like break character once,

5:40

you know, just just like

5:43

no, what did you like? There's no

5:46

way I can't take you. There's no

5:48

way. You believe that. There's no

5:50

way, Canda, someone has been playing the long

5:52

game for a while, and that kind of reach that that

5:54

reaches a culmination towards

5:56

the end of this episode, which we'll talk about, um,

5:59

but let's let's let's

6:01

let's play the clip there, because she also does some pretty

6:03

gross anti Semitic kind of defensive

6:06

stuff as well, talking about how you can't

6:08

say the word Jewish without people getting upset if

6:10

you are an honest person, You

6:13

did not think this tweet was anti semitic.

6:16

You did not think that he wrote this tweek because he hates

6:18

or wants to genocide Jewish people. This is

6:20

not represent at the beginning of the Holocaust.

6:23

That's if you're an honest person, you'll meet that. You'll admit

6:25

that right. If you're an honest person, when

6:27

you read this tweet, you had no

6:30

idea what the hell he was talking about.

6:32

I had I had no idea when

6:34

I read this tweet what the hell he was

6:36

talking about. This tweet inspired

6:39

questions, not answers. First and foremost, what

6:41

is death Con three? Did

6:44

he mean deaf Con three?

6:46

Which would be a military defense

6:49

position, not an offense for those of you that

6:51

are offended, a military defense

6:53

position. Is he tweeting this because

6:55

he's reading the newsweek headline calling

6:57

him an anti Semitic? Is he angry

7:00

because he can't believe that he's not free

7:02

to talk about people in his life who happened

7:04

to be Jewish right without

7:06

being accused of anti Semitism. Is he's saying,

7:08

I'm not gonna shut up, and I'm gonna keep tweeting,

7:11

and I'm gonna keep calling these people

7:13

out referring to his friends that he feels

7:15

slighted by as he talking about Jared Kushner and

7:17

Josh Krishner. If

7:19

you're a liar, you'll say, I know, I was scared.

7:21

Canis I actually thought that Kanye

7:24

West was going to launch a military

7:26

strike in Israel? Because that's the reaction.

7:28

Like when I woke up and I looked at the headlines, of

7:30

reaction was like Kanye West

7:33

had gotten together a military

7:35

strike and it was going to go

7:37

forward in the morning time in Israel. That

7:39

was that was the reaction

7:42

that was met with this sweek. Now,

7:45

once again, I want to make this very clear.

7:47

This is not a defensive tweet. This is an

7:49

open question which never seems

7:51

to happen anymore. It's like you cannot

7:54

even say the word Jewish

7:57

without people getting upsets in the

7:59

same way you're not allowed to say

8:01

black anymore. So there is

8:03

definitely a lot in that clip. Um,

8:06

I guess first off, we can talk about

8:09

talking about the tweet as simply asking

8:12

questions about Jewish people. It's

8:14

like you're you're just like directly doing the Jewish

8:17

question, Like what you

8:19

can't frame this just ask like you're

8:21

just asking questions about Jewish people. Really,

8:24

and then and and then Owens

8:26

tries to link this to like a Zionist

8:28

position, implying that attacks

8:31

on Jewish people and anti Semitism

8:33

are only legitimate if they're they're

8:36

in the form of a military action

8:38

against the nation of Israel, which

8:40

is not how anti Semitism

8:42

operates. That's like, that's just that's just that's

8:44

just not what that is. Like, that's it's

8:47

it's it's pretty gross again. Just it's

8:50

it's the same daily wire racism

8:52

denying stick by you know, it's it's

8:54

a it's a it's the same thing they do by saying racism

8:57

doesn't exist anymore because they're not racist

8:59

law is in America, which first

9:01

of all isn't even true. But

9:05

second of all, that's not what racism is.

9:07

Like that that even if there weren't

9:09

racist laws, that doesn't mean there's no racism.

9:12

Um man, she like the

9:18

man, it's like, like I'm trying to put my words

9:20

together, because there's a certain type of like sinisterness.

9:24

Yeah, it's a type of Yeah,

9:26

it's a type they're both deeply

9:28

un serious, but it's also like

9:31

explicitly complicit in the in the

9:34

like the rise of far right Christian fascism,

9:36

like it's it's it's so absurd,

9:39

but in a very dark way, like

9:41

it's it's it's. Yeah. I heard Kanye

9:43

this morning. This is what days of October

9:46

October a clip

9:48

from Pierce Morgan no less,

9:50

like trying to call him on his

9:52

anti Semitism and yeah,

9:56

just like I know we're talking about candidates, but

9:58

it's like it's in the same

10:00

vein of like, ain't no way you believe

10:03

is is in in that

10:05

He was like, listen, I apologize. I was talking

10:07

about my experience in

10:10

the music industry, which

10:13

is a verifiable fact

10:16

ran by Jews. And

10:18

I was like, you bro,

10:21

you ain't no way, ain't no way,

10:24

and just areak character like Alex

10:26

Jones broke character before, like

10:28

uh was Tuck Across in both character

10:31

Tuck Across and in court was like this entertainment,

10:34

don't take me serious, you know, just

10:36

like let me have that moment where I'm like, Okay,

10:39

at least be honest with what I'm dealing

10:41

with here, Just break character like

10:43

this, Just give me that

10:45

at least I know what I'm dealing with. No, Yeah,

10:48

like saying this is an open question,

10:50

you cannot say the word Jewish that people are getting upset,

10:53

like you know what you're doing,

10:55

you know exactly what and with the with the

10:58

after the like death calm three tweets

11:00

follow up implying that Jewish people emitted

11:02

cancel culture, like Robert said, directly

11:05

referenced that that's that is just directly ripped

11:07

from like Nazi theory um

11:10

like it's it's it's so blatant. Like

11:13

even even Cannice Owens boss

11:15

Ben Shapiro had to acknowledge

11:17

that Kanye's tweets were anti Semitic.

11:20

He he made He

11:22

made a tweet saying back from

11:24

the Jewish Holiday now, which don't

11:27

like Ben Shapiro, I know what you're

11:29

doing. I know what you're calling it to the Jewish

11:32

holiday. Fuck you back

11:34

from the Jewish Holiday now. As usual,

11:36

two things can be true at once. Kanye's

11:39

moves towards pro life faith

11:41

and family conservatism are

11:43

encouraging his death com

11:45

three posts and black Hebrew is the Light

11:48

Language are clearly anti Semitic and disturbing.

11:51

It's like Ben Shapiro, like the

11:53

more this is, this is, this

11:55

is this, This is basically Ben Shapiro saying

11:57

the more he agrees with me, the more he becomes

11:59

an Nazi. But I'm sure this is just a coincidence,

12:04

which which I did steal from. I did steal

12:06

that from someone on Twitter, so wes um,

12:11

Well, thanks gonna be true? Look,

12:13

look, both things, both things canna be Let's

12:16

say that you all right? Um,

12:18

I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a brief tangent on this

12:20

guy named Jason Woodlock. So

12:23

Woodlock is a sports journalist

12:25

and podcaster who hosts the show Fearless

12:28

Soldiers on Glenn Beck's Blaze

12:31

Media, where he quote protects

12:33

the realm of common sense and

12:35

challenges the group think mandated

12:38

by elites um and

12:40

he has like over half a million followers on Twitter

12:42

dot com. He

12:45

made a series of not great

12:47

statements that are still up and went

12:49

extremely viral with a lot of likes, UM

12:52

saying, quote Kanye West and Dave Chappelle,

12:54

is there a pattern the industry

12:57

wants both of them canceled? Black

13:00

efforts and comedians are free to denigrate

13:02

to black people and white

13:04

men a million different ways, but

13:06

there's a line they better not cross, and

13:09

everyone knows it. I

13:11

wonder, I wonder what he's saying. I wonder

13:13

what he's implying there. The conflation

13:15

of this is actually also as person

13:18

a member of the black community car carrying that

13:21

is that is frustrating, and

13:24

that we do need to talk about,

13:27

you know, among ourselves, like

13:30

what is acceptable in

13:33

terms of how we speak about our

13:35

own women, how we speak about you

13:37

know, our fellow brothers and sisters in the world. That is

13:39

something that needs to be discussed. But you don't

13:41

get to call it at you know. So

13:44

Jason Jason is black, but

13:47

he similarly works for a far right

13:49

media company. Um, I'm

13:51

gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a phrase and you could use

13:53

this later. Okay, I'm pretty sure

13:55

Serene knows it too. It's all scan folk

13:58

and king folk. So

14:00

just and what

14:03

he's talking about here, saying that there's

14:04

there's there's a you're you're free

14:07

to you know, talk about, you know, bad

14:09

things that black people and white people have done. The

14:12

line that you better not cross. He's he's obviously

14:14

talking about Jewish people. Um, someone some of someone

14:16

asking him, Hey, what's what is

14:18

this line? And then Jason

14:20

posted you can't question

14:22

black entertainers unhealthy relationship

14:25

with non religious Jewish

14:27

power brokers in Hollywood. Yeah

14:31

okay, yeah uh

14:34

he this this was obviously called out as being

14:36

extremely anti Semitic um which

14:38

then he replied, you think I have

14:40

a problem with people who speak a Semitic

14:43

language, Not true. I

14:45

have a problem with the secular

14:47

culture, particularly Hollywood's

14:49

promotion of it and black celebrities embrace

14:51

of it. I believe those celebs

14:54

have an unhealthy partnership with non

14:56

religious Jewish people. Which

14:59

is that was a dance again, this

15:01

is this is just exactly you're just doing anti

15:03

semitism Like you can't. You can't, like

15:06

it's not about speaking of a Semitic language,

15:08

and you know that, like you know this, You're

15:10

man, You're you're just doing a

15:13

bit like and here's

15:15

what's crazy, Like you know, in

15:17

in my early days of like moving into

15:20

more like activist kind of justice circles

15:22

and and for real, like even in some

15:26

of the like church spaces I was in because again I

15:28

grew up in like a very different church

15:30

tradition than the rest of these foods, is

15:32

that the Jewish community

15:36

was, in a lot of ways

15:39

upheld as an example for

15:42

us in that like, look, they

15:45

don't let nobody talk about nobody. They

15:47

don't let they don't they don't let it ride. You're

15:49

not allowed to talk. And they were like, we need

15:51

to be like that. They were like the way that,

15:53

the way that, like, look they come in they

15:56

said, up their community. They

15:58

they keep their money within their community, like

16:00

their dollars circulated around that and when you look

16:02

at like statistics, they were saying among the black communities,

16:05

like a dollar, you know, a dollar only circulates

16:07

once through our community, what I'm saying, And like I don't

16:09

have the numbers right, but they were saying, like within the Jewish

16:12

community, that dollar goes around like fifty

16:14

six seventy eight times because they

16:16

support each other, you know. And they were like

16:18

that's something that as black people, we need to start

16:20

learning how to do, like yo, stop being crabs

16:22

in the bucket, like support each other. You know what I'm

16:24

saying. Man learned from their community, you

16:27

know, learned from the fact that, like you

16:29

know, they keep their narrative alive. They don't allow

16:31

oppression to happen to them. They they stuck together,

16:34

how they've accrued wealth. You know what I'm saying. I don't know

16:36

how healthy this understanding is but I'm saying

16:38

that's what we saw, like look at how they accrued wealth,

16:40

like learned from them, you know. So

16:43

so when it when when you hear it coming

16:45

out of a black

16:47

entertainer's mouth, something antis,

16:50

it just it grates even more because you just

16:52

like, man, what like

16:56

I think one of the acts of that, which we're actually gonna

16:58

get to in a bit, is some of that kind of admiration

17:00

can be a double edged sword though it is. That's

17:02

what I'm saying, Like I don't know how healthy it is, Like

17:05

that's what we were taught. Yeah, yeah, but like

17:07

like like what you said about like there

17:09

you know how a dollar circulates

17:12

way more. You see Kanye later starting

17:14

to use some of that rhetoric in terms of promoting

17:17

Jewish people as like controllers

17:19

of financial engineering, like you see

17:21

that type of you see that bridge. We're gonna talk

17:23

about that like in a sect. Also quick

17:25

piece of history about Jewish Jewish people

17:28

in banking, which it's

17:30

ill like they as a people

17:33

got into that. They were

17:35

basically they were forced to because they weren't

17:37

allowed farmland, like you weren't allowed

17:39

to farm. So they're like, well, we gotta find a job.

17:42

Somehow, let's do banking, you maddice. They're

17:44

good at it, like you know, I

17:46

mean, I mean, like this is

17:49

this part that's like really can't. I'm like, you know why,

17:51

you know why jazz exists? Segregation,

17:55

naked racism, that's why blues. Why

17:57

is there hip hop? Because

18:00

sep sect Like we did something

18:02

with the trash you gave us, Like so

18:04

I think that, yeah, anyway, segregation

18:07

made that happen. I'm going to read a quote from Yah

18:10

Rosenberg. Quote cos tweets

18:12

exemplify why anti Semitism is so

18:14

hard to uproot. It's a self

18:17

affirming conspiracy theory. The ant

18:19

the anti Semite claims that Jews control everything.

18:21

Then if they're penalized for their bigotry,

18:24

they point to that as proof. Heads

18:26

they win, tails Jews lose.

18:29

Kanye posted his second tweet before the First World

18:31

was taken down, perfectly demonstrating how the

18:33

Jews control everything is a preemptive

18:35

anti Semitic defense against consequences

18:38

for expressing anti Semitism.

18:40

It's a common misconception that anti Semitism

18:42

is just a personal prejudice against

18:44

Jewish people. It's not. It's also a conspiracy

18:47

theory about how the entire world works,

18:50

which is why it ropes in conspiracy theorists

18:52

from all ideologies and all backgrounds.

18:55

It creates this antagonizing catch twenty

18:57

two for Jews when confronted with anti

18:59

Semitism. If we say nothing, the hatred

19:01

spreads unchecked. If we say something

19:04

and it results in any consequences for the

19:06

anti Semite, the bigot just uses

19:08

that as proof of their anti Semitic worldview.

19:12

So that's a good kind of one oh one explainer

19:14

on how this kind of whole thing operates.

19:17

You know, talking about Jewish power

19:19

brokers in Hollywood and people called out

19:21

on that, They're like, oh see, this is an example of them

19:24

trying to silence the truth,

19:26

and you know, all of this type of ship. Um.

19:29

The one super interesting thing

19:31

that has happened since

19:34

all of these tweets and the actor math

19:36

and stuff has has has happened is

19:39

that we got some leaked

19:42

video from the Tucker Carlson and

19:44

con Gae video. So

19:47

this is this, this, this is this is fascinating.

19:50

Um.

19:52

So Vice Vices

19:55

Motherboard obtained

19:57

footage of Kanye making big

20:00

need statements about Utish people and bizarre clams

20:02

about fake children as well as describing

20:04

visions of connecting of kinetic energy

20:06

cities sent to him by God. And

20:10

uh, we're not sure how Vice

20:12

got these unaired

20:15

clips, but we have them

20:17

and they're extremely fascinating both

20:20

on for like what Kanye is doing and how he

20:22

made these statements before his tweets.

20:24

Um. Also it's interesting on like what Tucker

20:27

is doing, like your explicitly obfus

20:29

skating direct anti Semitism

20:31

but still allowing the dog whistles to

20:33

be to be present. Um

20:36

So Inside their interview

20:39

that that did air, Carlson

20:41

and Kanye together outlined some of Fox's favorite

20:43

boogeyman from the Clinton's COVID

20:45

restrictions, cancel culture and liberal elites.

20:48

But what Fox left on the cutting room

20:50

floor is just as revealing.

20:53

The Tucker Carlson Tonight's team decided to

20:55

edit out a clip of Kanye saying that he's vaccinated

20:58

against COVID nineteen, which is okay

21:01

yeah. In a

21:03

segment talking about black genocide and planned

21:05

parenthood, they edited out Kanye's

21:08

statements about the lost twelve

21:10

tribes of Judah. Planned parenthood

21:12

was made by Margaret Sanger, a

21:15

known eugenics with the KKK

21:18

two control the

21:21

jew population. When I say

21:23

ju, I mean the twelve

21:25

Lost Tribes of Judah, the Blood

21:27

of Christ. Who the

21:30

race the people known as the

21:32

race black really are? This

21:34

is who are people are the Blood of Christ.

21:37

This as a Christian is my

21:39

belief. So inside the television

21:41

broadcast, it has it has those

21:44

parts about planned parenthood and the KKK,

21:47

but then after he mentions the KKK,

21:49

it cuts three seconds ahead, so it skips

21:51

over all that stuff around Jews

21:54

and the lost twelve Tribes

21:56

of Judah, which kind of get that is that is some of the

21:58

type of black Hebrew Israel stuff

22:00

that Robert and prop we're talking about in the previous

22:02

episode, how they're they're one of

22:05

the lost tribes who went south. Um.

22:08

So that that is that. But it's interesting,

22:10

so like he's directly talking about

22:12

that way before his tweets that Tucker just

22:15

completely edited out now on the

22:17

on the planned parenthood point. So Sanger

22:19

was indeed a racist and the

22:22

genesist um a stance that the Planned

22:24

Parenthood organization has since like obviously

22:27

denounced um. But you know, claims

22:29

about Planned Parenthood specifically operating

22:31

to kill unborn black babies are

22:34

just common rhetoric in the pro life

22:37

like circles and conspiracy spaces.

22:39

It's not that that part is not really

22:41

true, but it is a very common talking

22:43

point that Margaret Sanger

22:46

point is is something that like, yeah,

22:49

you know, even I like in my

22:51

sort of you

22:53

know, evolution of the way I think

22:56

and feel and believe. You know, I'm

22:58

the child of a black panther, you know what I'm saying. And so like

23:00

when you you you hear things about

23:03

eugenics and Margaret Sanger in the connection

23:05

to planing aired but and you're like, oh, well, yeah, no, that

23:07

stuff is evil, you know what I mean? Um,

23:10

and you know, obviously

23:12

I I'm a I'm

23:14

assist gendered male, you know. So there

23:19

there's definitely holes in the story

23:22

of understanding the complications of what it

23:24

means, what abortion and reproductive

23:26

rights mean, because I just I didn't

23:28

know, you know. And uh,

23:30

but as you you know, grow mature, travel

23:33

for me, like the the

23:36

biggest the biggest change

23:38

in my thinking has been travel

23:41

and relationships and just you

23:43

know what I used to say reading off

23:45

the Naughty List, you know, uh,

23:48

and you start understanding those complications. But yeah,

23:50

that was like that that Margaret

23:52

sanger note is a

23:54

note that's hit often, you know,

23:56

and it becomes very difficult until you're

23:59

like so you till

24:01

you until you in the situation, you know what I

24:03

mean, and like you are like, look, this is this

24:06

is this is affordable healthcare and

24:09

it's right down the street, you know, And when you're

24:11

in that situation, it's like again,

24:13

like all the boogeyman's and all the stories and

24:15

all the warnings, all of it falls apart,

24:17

you know, once you actually see this stuff in practice.

24:20

So yeah, that but that that market saying well

24:22

I was it. That's a tough pill to swallow. And the Planned

24:25

Parent Organization has spent a long time trying

24:28

to amend for their for their

24:30

like an initial inclination and some of the

24:33

like you genicists starting points

24:35

that that they had and making sure that they're not

24:37

they're not you know, continuing

24:40

in that

24:43

oh yeah, and like and like actually addressing like hey,

24:46

is is the locations

24:48

of our clinics specifically geared towards

24:50

like being

24:53

in more targeted communities where it's like lower

24:55

class and people of color as opposed to white,

24:58

affluent communities. And they have they have taken steps

25:00

to actually like make sure that they're planning

25:02

of clinics and locations is not it's

25:04

not oversaturated in Yeah. And

25:06

that being said, I'm like white communities

25:09

they got healthcare, so it's like there

25:11

was a different story, you know what I'm saying. It's like, you go where

25:14

it's needed. I'm like, I ain't got no healthcare over here. That's

25:16

why they here, you know. I mean, this

25:18

isn't obviously, this isn't a planned parenthood stand

25:20

video or podcast. But at the

25:22

same time, I'm like, well,

25:25

of course they got their problems, like every other organization

25:27

got their problems. But like the idea

25:29

that there's this like sinister plot,

25:33

you know, is clearly

25:35

the rantings of someone who is not

25:37

well. It does it's

25:40

it is parenting, just conspiracy

25:42

talking points at this point, the way the way he

25:44

doesn't, the way he's doing. And

25:46

in one of the more blatantly anti semitic sections

25:48

that were that was edited out, Kanye

25:51

complains about Kwanza being

25:53

taught to his kids in school and

25:55

and and says that he would prefer his kids learned

25:57

Hanaka because it comes with financial

26:00

engineering. Was biting my tongue

26:02

on my political opinion because

26:05

I thought it would be better for my children. And

26:07

now you look up and my kids

26:10

are going to a school that teaches

26:12

black kids a complicated

26:14

kwanza. I prefer

26:17

my kids new hanaka the kwanza.

26:20

At least it will come with some financial

26:22

engineering. I'm sorry what wait?

26:27

I mean? This is? This is this type of thing, like you should

26:29

learn from the Jews because they're good at controlling

26:31

money. Like yeah,

26:34

it makes me feel like he purposely tweeted that stuff

26:36

because it was cut out, like because

26:38

like maybe uthering his idea

26:40

of being I mean, I think I think he

26:42

tweeted that stuff out. He tweeted that he tweeted up

26:45

on Twitter in response to him getting banned on Instagram,

26:48

and the stuff on Instagram was directly

26:50

against a rapper who was calling him

26:52

out on his ship. UM. I

26:55

don't know if Kanye watched the Tucker Carlson

26:57

interview. I don't

26:59

know. Um.

27:01

And then, in one of the

27:03

more bizarre things that

27:05

he said, Kanye West talked about a

27:08

so called fake child that had been

27:10

planted in his home, including

27:12

he went into explicit detail talking

27:14

about the child's name and the parents name. And

27:17

this this video clip was not posted to

27:19

protect the family's privacy. Um,

27:22

but he went into great detail, and we

27:25

have some we have some like transcripts saying

27:27

I actors, professional actors placed

27:29

into my house to sexualize my kids.

27:33

He he He

27:35

referred to the so called son of an associate,

27:38

seemingly implying that the child was fake, saying

27:40

that we we we we did not believe

27:42

that the person was her son

27:45

because he was way smarter than her.

27:47

Um, and he it's it's

27:50

the this is like the most clear example

27:53

of the ramblings of someone who like isn't okay,

27:55

Like it's like like someone having a mental

27:57

health episode. Like. He

28:00

has spoken frequently about living with bipolar

28:02

disorder and experiencing manic episodes.

28:05

In twenty nineteen, he discussed how experiences

28:07

these with David Letterman, saying, quote,

28:09

when you're in the state, you're hyper apparently

28:11

about everything and everyone in my experience,

28:14

other people have different experiences. You

28:16

know, everyone is now an actor, Everything

28:18

is now a conspiracy unquote. This

28:21

is what's happening. You're thinking everyone's an actor and everyone's

28:23

conspiracy. You're really I mean, you

28:25

can look at gang stocking, which is probably

28:28

an expression of people having schizophrenic

28:31

episodes. Where people believe

28:33

that, like crowds of just random folks

28:35

on the street are like part of an organized

28:37

stocking thing, or just there's these One

28:40

kind of common thing that happens

28:42

in psychotic episodes for some people

28:45

is a belief that their loved

28:47

ones, their spouse, or whatever has been replaced

28:49

by someone who looks exactly the sin. There's also

28:51

certain kinds of like we call that. We call that Nathan

28:54

Fielder syndrome. I

28:58

was going to say that, but I didn't want to drag hive it to this.

29:04

It's I mean, it's one of those This

29:06

is I don't know how you actually would ever study

29:09

this, but I think one of the major problems

29:11

are our civilization has that might

29:13

actually end us is the fact that

29:15

every mental illness on the planet is

29:17

vastly exacerbated by the person

29:20

having a lot of money, which also happens

29:22

to make it virtually impossible to treat because

29:24

no one around you will admit that anything's wrong.

29:27

And this again might someday,

29:29

combined with the fact that we have an addiction

29:31

on this planet to handing a single individual

29:34

the keys to a nuclear stockpile, this

29:36

might all end in really badly for everybody,

29:39

and when you're one of those famous people in the world, you

29:42

constantly feel like you're being gang stocked because

29:44

you are yes, like watching

29:49

you like like it's it's not humans

29:51

weren't designed to reach that level of fame.

29:53

That's not something that we'd like developed it Like, that's

29:56

that's you should that should

29:58

not be possible. Our brains are not a up for it.

30:01

Yeah, And then I feel like it's like they

30:03

get affirmed in that belief because a

30:06

lot of people do rely on them and maybe

30:08

they're mania to like make sure

30:10

they get paid or make sure like their family. Absolutely

30:14

they're being Yeah, you're being you

30:16

know. I like I have a

30:19

small list of like actual

30:22

like a list like celebrity

30:24

friends who have been you

30:27

know who are like for real celebrities.

30:29

And also like yeah, my uh,

30:32

my last accountant stole two hundred

30:34

thousand dollars from me, Like and I didn't even

30:36

know, you know, uh, this person,

30:39

you know, I had this person on tour

30:41

with me and you know they robbed this

30:43

guy robbed the opener, Like

30:45

just all these like stories to where you're

30:47

like, well, yeah, the people you do have around

30:50

you, So even if you didn't have mental health

30:52

issues, you would get paranoid. You would still

30:54

get paranoid. Yeah, it's for example, to get

30:56

paranoid. I mean, yeah, it's

30:59

I yeah,

31:02

all of it's all of this is very

31:05

obvious as a problem.

31:08

But and

31:10

what's unsettling to me, Sorry, I just want

31:12

to say really quickly, one of the things that the fact

31:15

that Kanye, as you you pointed

31:17

out years earlier, very astutely

31:19

talked about the things that happened to him

31:21

when he is having an episode in a very

31:23

lucid way, makes me

31:25

wonder and maybe this is a little conspiratorial

31:28

where they are people listening who are like,

31:31

well, shit, if we can just play into that stuff,

31:33

we might be able to get him to we might be able

31:35

to push him in whatever direction we want. Because there's

31:37

definitely a whole bunch of people. I mean, I can totally

31:39

see Kendae someone's doing that because because

31:42

she's she's been playing him like a fiddle for

31:44

a long time, and that's a long time that's

31:46

gonna reach a tipping

31:48

point at the end, at the end, end end of this episode.

31:50

So one one could ask,

31:53

how could you be so heartless? How

31:57

could you be so it

31:59

wasn't how could you be there

32:01

evil? But also I didn't

32:04

get that along the same thread

32:06

of a tortured artist thinking they have to

32:08

be depressed, yes, make art.

32:10

I think there's an element of that even for

32:13

Kanye, Like I don't think, I mean, I

32:15

think it was if he's medicated or not, you know what I mean,

32:17

Like I think he is. He has said that sometimes he goes auf

32:19

medication. Yeah, exactly, you know,

32:22

and I and yeah, the tortured artist thing. I know

32:24

some like New York Times

32:26

bestsellers authors who are like, yes,

32:29

I know I'm bipolar, and I know

32:31

when I have to write this book, I'm

32:33

going to get off these pills. I'm going to write

32:36

it in in two days. I'm going to turn in.

32:39

That's that's made worse by people like tying,

32:43

like people in doing my

32:45

research for this episode, a lot of people talk to us in

32:47

person and like talk about like his

32:50

genius, And I think this idea

32:52

of his genius mixed in with his mental

32:54

state can create a really

32:56

volatile reaction someone's brain when

32:59

they feel like certain altered states of consciousness

33:01

are what makes you have your genius.

33:04

And that's really the way people

33:06

have talked about this to Conning in person.

33:09

I think it's really unhealthy. Yeah. I would

33:12

argue that telling a child they're a genius

33:14

is abusive, and it's probably true for

33:16

telling an adult. It's one of the worst things

33:18

you can ever tell anybody. Don't don't,

33:20

No one's a genius. Stop using that word.

33:23

It's poison. You think your illness is your genius?

33:26

Yeah, going

33:37

back to this, like to these leaked unused

33:40

Tucker Carlson videos, something like this

33:42

in a better world would like completely

33:44

tank Tucker forever. Like,

33:47

yeah, it should, But none of that matters because

33:49

in any other yeah, in any other universe,

33:52

at that point you should be like, yo, we gotta

33:54

stop the cameras man. No, yeah, Yeah.

33:57

This leak reveals unequivocally how Carlson uses

33:59

this form to sanitize anti Semitism

34:01

and other conspiracy theories for a general audience.

34:04

Carlson cuts out just enough to claim

34:06

plausible deniability. This will not impact

34:08

him professionally at all. Um, he

34:11

makes his he makes a living manipulating

34:13

people on Fox News. Um,

34:15

this should tank him. It won't, but

34:17

it does reveal how he works

34:20

with extreme clarity, having these

34:22

behind the scenes glimpses and

34:24

then Also having having the added

34:26

context of these cut segments also

34:29

shines a light on some of the more dog whistle

34:31

the aspects that did make it into

34:33

the aired interview. Uh like this

34:35

bit that started with that that that that started

34:37

with Kanye talking about his grievances

34:40

with Jared Kushner, you know, or he made

34:42

these peace treaties? Where was that?

34:44

Do you know the facts on this right here? So I'm like, well,

34:46

I think that was between Israel and some of the Arab

34:48

nations. I just think it was

34:51

to make money. I

34:53

don't know, is that is that too heavy handed to put in this platform?

34:56

No, that's that's your opinion. We're not in a

34:58

censorship business, thank you.

35:01

And I just think that that's

35:03

what they're about, is making

35:06

money. I don't think that they have the ability to make

35:08

anything on their own. I think

35:10

they were born into money. So when

35:13

Kanye said I don't think they have the ability to make anything

35:15

on their own and talking about,

35:18

you know, peace treatise with the intention to make money, Carlson

35:21

knew that Kanye was just talking about like

35:23

the Jews, Like that's like he he knew

35:25

that's what was going on and decided to keep those

35:27

dog whistling aspects. It's

35:32

yeah, I'm I'm going to quote from

35:34

a lad near ry. This

35:37

provides uncontrovertible proof that Carlson

35:39

knew Kanye was being anti Semitic during the interview.

35:42

In other words, Tucker Carlson and his

35:44

team purposely edited their footage to make Kanye's

35:46

comments into a dog whistle instead of a

35:48

foghorn. He purposely coded

35:50

Kanye's anti semitism. Carlson

35:53

knows how to spread anti semitism while avoid

35:55

getting called out. He did it here. This

35:58

itself should be far bigger scandal

36:00

than anything Condie has said. Carlson knowingly

36:03

spreaded this code anti semitism

36:05

and knowingly kept the anti semitism

36:07

that he knew he wouldn't get called out on, and

36:10

knowingly cut the part that he knew would get

36:12

him in trouble. Carlson has spent has

36:14

spent years spreading anti Semitic

36:16

conspiracy theories, from a full documentary about

36:18

George Sorrows destroying Western civilization to

36:21

multiple uses of the Great Replacement conspiracy

36:23

theory, to anti Semitic guests talking

36:25

about globalist elites ruling

36:28

in d C. This is who Tucker Carlson

36:30

is America's leading purveyor of

36:32

mainstream anti Semitism.

36:35

He also showed everybody

36:37

the the ultra light

36:39

beam to the genitals.

36:42

He did one of good things and it was more based

36:44

moments. That was pretty Uh that was the

36:47

thing. I was like, all right, man,

36:49

okay did genital

36:51

tannin? Got it? Uh? But

36:54

yeah, that's his that's his particular

36:57

Like mutant power is

37:02

saying something without saying something, and

37:05

all of us know what you're saying, but

37:08

you ain't say it. So when I go, what

37:11

then did you just say? You could say?

37:13

What are you talking about? Nothing? You

37:15

know it? I mean he's got I

37:18

mean he's he's the Picasso. It at like just

37:21

and it's and it's so inferiorating and

37:24

speaking of kind of dog whistles and stuff,

37:26

similar to Kanye has been about the Jews

37:28

creating canceler culture by doing

37:30

the whole. I don't think they have the ability

37:33

to make anything on their own statement. Kanye

37:35

isn't playing another kind of classic an anti

37:38

Semitic trope that or that originates

37:40

with Nazi propaganda. Um

37:42

that you know, Jews are incapable of physical

37:45

labor or making things. This comes

37:47

up a lot. In the nineteen forty Nazi propaganda

37:49

film The Eternal Jew, one

37:51

of the most vile films ever, made a

37:53

quote from Mike Rothschild,

37:56

so and now, I I don't think Kanye

38:00

Kandie is not seeing the Eternal Jew. All the

38:04

only people most weird not see

38:06

nerds who referenced the Eternal Jew haven't

38:09

seen the Eternal Jew. Like But

38:11

but the point is that you don't need to

38:13

see it. These these these stereotypes

38:15

are so ingrained to how many people see Jewish

38:17

people that there's things

38:19

that you can believe without the slightest consideration

38:22

or like a deep thought. Well, and they were,

38:24

you know, the The Eternal Jew was influential

38:27

in anti Semitic propaganda, but a

38:29

lot of what it was doing was kind of codifying,

38:32

almost, if you will, the most

38:35

popular stereotypes and racialist

38:37

attacks of the day. Like it.

38:39

It didn't invent stuff so much as

38:41

it was like, all right, we're going to we're going

38:43

to boil it all down in kind

38:45

of the most iconic form.

38:48

Yeah, there's house today years old. I had no idea what

38:50

you sum up, uh, But

38:52

but I can see how that

38:55

concept has such source material because

38:58

as somebody who you, oh, I

39:02

have just anti Semitism is just has

39:05

never been on the menu for me.

39:07

Um. Some of the

39:10

the tropes that

39:12

come with that, in my

39:14

mind seems so bizarre from

39:16

like what are you talking what did that

39:18

come from? What did you talking about? They did what?

39:21

Now? You know? So like someone like

39:24

so to know that, like, well there is

39:26

source material, there's there's stuff that comes from

39:28

it comes from this time. It was because it is because

39:31

this was like an intentional thing that

39:33

people have been pushing towards

39:35

for hundreds of years, like this is it's it's

39:37

yes, this didn't just happen, this is

39:40

like people are trying to make

39:42

this a reality like it's it's it has

39:44

been a propaganda project and

39:46

a hate campaign that's been

39:48

genocidal for hundreds of years. Yeah,

39:51

because I'm like okay, you

39:53

know at sometimes

39:57

okay, I'm trying to say what up? Let me try figure out what I'm

39:59

trying to SA. Sometimes you can track yeah,

40:01

like the protocols, Like the protocols. I was like,

40:04

until you understand those protocols, Like some

40:06

of the anti Semitic thought and rhetoric

40:08

is like, man, what are you talking about? Like

40:11

what you know, text like that don't just

40:13

like pop into existence. Someone

40:15

wrote that with a specific intent, with

40:17

an intent for something. But what I'm the

40:19

point I'm trying to get at is like there are some

40:22

racist sentiments

40:24

and tropes that I

40:26

I'm following your logic as

40:29

to why you're saying that about them,

40:32

Like, clearly it's a racist shrope.

40:34

But black men are violent, And

40:36

I'm like, well, okay, I mean, if

40:39

all you know of us is gang violence,

40:42

if that's all you've seen, and I'm following your logic, you've

40:44

just never been exposing any other stuff. Now, once

40:46

you get exposing and stuff, you still feel like that. It's

40:48

like, all right, you just you just trash, You just

40:51

you just trash. But I'm like, I'm

40:53

following, I'm following you. You know what I mean. You

40:56

only know rap music, Okay, that's all you know of us?

40:58

Okay, then you think that this is what we all are racist

41:01

because clearly most people are more than

41:03

everybody's more than the one thing you're

41:05

trying to put them in, you know, But I'm

41:08

following that. It's just for me again,

41:10

like I said, since like anti Semitism

41:13

was never on the menu, like it was never just it

41:15

just wasn't a part of my world. When

41:17

you hear things like the Protocols

41:19

of Zion and and some of this stuff,

41:21

even even learning about the Holocaust,

41:23

Like if you're a black person, you like, what's

41:27

your deal? Like why what

41:30

what you? What is so wrong with them?

41:32

Like I don't understand why

41:35

you don't like them so much? Like it it's

41:37

just it's like I can't even follow your logic,

41:39

you know, because it's not even personal

41:42

hatred of all people, right,

41:45

It's it's framed within this conspiratorial thing. But

41:48

like, no, I don't hate Jewish people. I'm just

41:50

questioning the Jewish power brokers

41:52

in Hollywood, and I think that they

41:54

have too much influence. Right, That's how it's framed,

41:56

and that's how people That's how someone like Kandie

41:58

might actually like might actually feel

42:01

because he works in Hollywood. Yeah right,

42:03

but but that but that is the only

42:05

way you get there is because of decades

42:07

of anti Semitism. Like that, that's it's it's it's

42:09

it's that's that's the kind of point I was trying. Yeah,

42:13

J k Rowling, Banker Goblins didn't just

42:16

like exists by itself exactly like nothing.

42:19

None of these things are made in a vacuum. They

42:21

thought of that to you said it, oh ship,

42:23

oh yeah, there's a start of David

42:25

on the floor of the bank. I didn't

42:28

even notice it. That

42:31

the point out it's yeah,

42:33

one. I mean, one of the things people

42:35

will point out that is true is that

42:38

that was not a set. They were filming in an

42:40

actual building and they chose

42:42

to have that there, and and the building

42:45

had a star of David in the floor and they

42:47

chose to film there. Yes, it seems

42:49

like that would have been something people might have noticed,

42:52

Yeah, at least somebody who had not

42:54

even over it, not even just like

42:56

yo yo, maybe maybe listen,

42:59

maybe we don't mean anything by it, but

43:02

it could be seen as

43:05

you know, yeah, and just

43:07

like just like, none of these things that

43:09

are in a vacuum, and Kanye's own

43:11

statements are not in a vacuum.

43:14

After Kanye made these tweets, uh,

43:16

you know, fourth Chan was quick to

43:18

take it, was quick to eat up the

43:20

Kanye pill. There Kanye Kanye

43:23

threads took up of took up most

43:25

of polls posts for

43:27

for days. There's there's just there's screenshots

43:30

of of poll just Kanye post after

43:32

Kanye post, all of all of the trending ones are

43:34

all about Kanye uh.

43:38

Nick Frentz and his like Graper

43:40

followers were celebrating the tweets and

43:43

they see this as an opportunity took on a mainstream

43:46

you know there their brand of horrible anti Semitic

43:48

fascism um, and I

43:52

hope people are prepared to take on you

43:54

know, fake Kanye stand accounts

43:56

that are gonna pop up everywhere to defending

43:58

it any semitism, you know, and defending

44:01

and talking about anti Semitism from

44:03

the point of quote unquote being a Kanye fan.

44:05

It's there's a lot of Yeah. I was

44:07

like, we've been a lot of fascist trolling is gonna

44:09

it's gonna come in the mask of Kanye

44:12

West now. And we have been Yeah,

44:14

we've I mean, we've been enduring among

44:17

black Twitter. We have been enduring Kanye

44:20

stands for a while. You

44:22

know what I'm saying that are just like, no, you're just a genius.

44:25

You don't understand he's playing three D. We've been enduring

44:27

this for a while. It's actually been very interesting

44:30

in the sphere of the Internet. I existed of seeing

44:32

people being like uh, yeah,

44:35

no, I got nothing. Yeah,

44:38

there has been a good amount of people that

44:41

are finally tapped out. And I

44:43

think, well, I think, what does that

44:45

type of vacuum opens up

44:47

space for bad actors to use

44:49

the mask of Kanye to then just

44:52

promote fascism

44:54

under under this mask now like Trump?

44:59

Sure, I mean like, and I think this creates a more

45:01

specific type of dog whistle think

45:03

because Mega's obviously way more way more

45:05

broad. I meant, like like Kanye's

45:08

use of as absolutely,

45:10

I mean, we have you know, Nick Frentees

45:13

posted the tweets and his in

45:15

his telegrams saying no way,

45:17

we are so back. Do you trust the plan?

45:20

Baked Alaska? Do you trust

45:22

the plan? Baked Alaska posted

45:25

his telegram this is real vindicated

45:28

and one of my least favorite telegram channels

45:31

zoomer Waffen, which god,

45:33

just god,

45:36

it's called every

45:39

every time I talked about Zoomerwaffen, I

45:41

like, I lose five years of life. So

45:43

people again, because folks who are

45:46

not terminally online or like, what are

45:48

you guys talking about? Waffen means

45:50

weapon in German. The reason

45:52

that it is a thing the Nazis talk about is

45:54

that the s S had like a

45:57

bunch of different things the s S did, but one of the

45:59

things they had a unit that existed within

46:01

kind of the traditional hierarchy called the

46:03

Waffen s S, which means the Weapons SS.

46:06

They committed a shipload of war crimes.

46:08

Ever since, Waffen has been a thing

46:10

that you can kind of like stick to the end of the name of

46:12

a group and you're signifying that you think

46:14

the SS was based Adam. Waffen

46:16

is kind of the most prominent terrorist

46:19

group in the United States and other

46:21

countries. That's been a big thing. And

46:24

you know, it's not like Zoom, like

46:26

you get what they're saying, Zoom or Waffen,

46:28

Right, it's the thing anyway, That's that's what you

46:30

need to know. I just I just I get so

46:32

pissed because I'm like these

46:35

fucking nerds,

46:38

dangerous sucking nerds.

46:40

It sucks. Yeah, I hate you. Yes,

46:44

I'm just like you, just you. God, if

46:46

you weren't so dangerously

46:49

violent, you know, just locking

46:52

nerds. Ye, that's

46:55

that. That is the recurring statement

46:57

on this show, yes, is that if

47:00

it weren't dangerous, they would be much more funny.

47:02

Um. So, yeah, the

47:05

Zoomerwafins posted the tweet

47:07

and not not not all heroes wear capes somewhere

47:09

easy gap merch and

47:12

with its anyway.

47:15

So, just two days after the

47:17

anti semitic posts on his social media

47:19

accounts which got him banned, Conye

47:22

then attended the Nashville premier

47:24

of Candice Owens Daily Wire

47:27

documentary project The Greatest

47:29

Lie Ever Sold George

47:31

Floyd and the Rise of BLM.

47:34

And just imagine being one of the most

47:37

famous people on the planet and

47:39

choosing to hang out with the Daily Wire.

47:42

Yeah, it's like like

47:44

the like they like the

47:46

word grooming obviously means nothing now, but

47:48

like they they groomed

47:50

him into this ship. Like basically they

47:54

and groomed him into this nonsense. It's

47:57

Kanye made a lot of choices here,

47:59

and those choices were like very selfish

48:01

and based in narcissism. And

48:04

while he is sick, he's not a victim

48:06

fundamentally, but he also is

48:10

being taken advantage of, right,

48:12

Like that's that's fair to say. That doesn't exculpate

48:15

him from his guilt in this. But Mr

48:18

West another another Kanye reference,

48:20

Wake up Mr West and like

48:23

like real quick, the the

48:27

part that is so well, obviously it's

48:29

all inferiorating. But I'm like, you're

48:34

you're you're going out

48:36

of your way

48:39

to purposefully tear

48:42

down black people

48:44

when they suffering. You don't

48:46

have to, you don't You could

48:48

even say, like, hey, you know, which is

48:50

true, Like there are some in the organization

48:53

of Black Lives Matter as an organization,

48:55

there's some problematic stuff that needs to be discussed

48:58

and worked out, you know what I'm saying in and being

49:00

like, Okay, well, let's get some oversight here. What are we doing

49:02

here, Let's have some accountability and why

49:05

are you why are you into man

49:07

well, because this is this is this is

49:09

Kenneth Owens like explicit grift

49:12

exactly. That's she Her

49:15

job is to conflate the Black

49:17

Lives Matter nonprofit organization

49:20

with the Black Lives Matter movement and

49:23

and and and use criticisms of the nonprofit

49:25

organization to basically say

49:27

that any form of advocacy by

49:30

people of color in you know, using the

49:32

Black Lives Matter movement banner is

49:35

is discredited because of

49:37

the issues with the formal nonprofit

49:39

organization in Portland, I

49:41

have never I've never seen a single thing

49:44

related to the Black Lives Matter organization,

49:46

not a single thing. I mean, I guess maybe the

49:48

signs like are solved by them. I don't

49:50

know that. But like, it's it's not it's not a

49:52

president. We're talking about up risings.

49:55

It's not a fit. Like it's the the

49:57

conflation of the of the nonprofit organization

49:59

with the movement is the specific

50:01

thing that Canadasaons has focused on for

50:03

the past five years of her career. That's that's

50:05

what she makes money on, is exploiting

50:08

this little thing. And it's the thing that Tucker

50:10

has adopted, and this is the thing that she

50:12

is convinced. It's just so

50:15

it's just so like what

50:17

do you do, Like, okay, so any

50:19

anything, okay, talk

50:22

about talk about globalism

50:24

you okay, that's your little thing. That's your little thing.

50:26

Okay. Uh, you know you

50:29

don't like that, you don't like the Democrats, you know, you

50:31

know, Brandon whatever. But it's like,

50:34

Okay, a man died and

50:37

and that's and the cop was proven

50:40

guilty and that that's

50:42

that's the most gross part. Because Kanye is embrace of

50:44

conpc theories now a right

50:47

like, but his ambracive conspiracy theories

50:49

is not just limited to anti is not just limited

50:52

to anti Semitism. He now

50:54

openly denies the proven facts of the events that led

50:56

to the most recent international uprising in the Black

50:58

Lives Matter movement. He jumped on board his

51:00

pal Kendas owens absurd quote unquote

51:03

documentary that claims the sequence of events

51:05

proven in court and witnessed by the world via

51:07

self and footage, did not actually

51:09

happen. Um. That's

51:11

why I'm like, you're going out of your way now.

51:13

It's like you you're you're on a

51:15

path, and I'm like, you're

51:18

purposefully going out of your way

51:21

to hurt us. And that's

51:24

the part that I'm like what I said. I don't use

51:26

the word cone often, but I'm like,

51:29

like, why are you doing Why are you doing this?

51:32

Like you're you're well because we know

51:34

why you're doing it. And it's just like Candice

51:37

come home, Like Cape

51:39

Cape for the Republicans, do what you gotta

51:41

do. If you honestly think the

51:43

solutions for our community comes

51:45

from the conservative world, Cape for him,

51:48

do what you gotta You don't have to go out

51:50

of your way like

51:52

this is you're going to

51:54

like you're taking the scenic route to

51:57

just like Okay, it's

52:00

they it's because

52:03

I don't They don't actually believe that that's what

52:05

the solutions are. They're just they're

52:07

just living a really wealthy, extravagant

52:10

lifestyle. Candaons gets to travel with Kanye

52:12

West to Paris Fashion Week, she gets to have a

52:14

red Caver premier with Kanye West,

52:16

Kid Rock and ray J. Like

52:19

that's that's the life that she has been able

52:21

to create by exploding

52:23

this thing. And of course she's going

52:25

to do it because that's how you become

52:27

a millionaire. Two kinds of people

52:30

get successful on the right. One kind

52:32

is fuck you got mine. I'm gonna get

52:35

what I can as quickly as I can. Uh.

52:38

And the other is I want to create a

52:40

Christian fascist ethno state. UM.

52:43

Like those are the two kinds, and one

52:45

feeds into the other. And Candas Owens has decided,

52:47

I'm fine with helping the other kind of prominent

52:50

conservative accomplish their goals

52:53

because it won't get too

52:55

bad, you know, during my lifetime. I can

52:57

make enough money. I'm one of the good ones. They're

52:59

like, this is this is this is the same thing

53:01

with someone like Blair White for you

53:03

know, for um, for trans

53:06

issues, there's there's there's a specific

53:08

tokenized figures Dave

53:11

Reuben with you know with gay

53:13

people, like if they align as

53:15

one of the good ones and they think that things

53:17

won't get bad enough in their lifetime, and

53:20

they'll they'll they'll just they'll just be able to profit. Yeah.

53:25

Wait, wait, just to make sure, is

53:28

Dave Reuben the dude that was like, well, scientifically

53:30

speaking, a mermaid couldn't be that dark.

53:33

No, that's uh,

53:36

that feels like a Ben Shapiro or crowd

53:38

or bit. I I don't remember specifically,

53:40

Okay, I thought that was the way. It was hilarious.

53:43

It was one of those clowns. They

53:46

scientifically speaking, they're all paid

53:48

by the same dude. It doesn't matter. It's like,

53:52

I still need to get this joke off. So

53:56

it's rushing that Kanye not only just attended

53:58

the premiere, but it's now actually pair the

54:00

disinformation and the and the talking points that Kenneth

54:02

Owens used in her faux

54:05

documentary. So just a few days

54:07

after he went to the Red Carpet,

54:09

he started spreading the disinformation

54:12

on the police's murder of George Floyd on

54:14

a podcast. I watched the George Floyd

54:16

documentary at Candice Owen's put up. One

54:19

of the things that his two roommates said was,

54:22

they want a tall guy like me, they

54:24

want a talk guy like me. And the day

54:26

when he died, he said a prayer

54:28

for you know, eight minutes. He

54:32

said a prayer for eight minutes. They

54:36

hit him with the fence and all if

54:40

you look at the guy's knee wasn't

54:42

even on his neck like that when

54:45

he said Mama, mama, his is his girlfriend?

54:47

He said, he's screamed for his mama. Mama was his girlfriend

54:50

is in the documentary. So that's

54:52

pretty bad. Um. And after

54:54

after that he starts talking about other

54:57

kind of random conspiracy theory stuff that

54:59

another leads him to making

55:01

more comments about the Jews. Um, So

55:04

here's that clip. They blocked

55:06

me out, the Jewish media block

55:08

me out. This ship lit right,

55:10

I'm lit right, I'm lit

55:14

I'm lit You know what I'm saying. JP Morrigan,

55:16

I put a hundred forty million dollars

55:19

and the JP Morgan and they treated

55:21

me like ship. So if JP Morgan

55:24

Chase is treating me like that, how they treating

55:26

the rest of you? And

55:28

this Chase accounts. That's

55:31

what I'm saying, I am outraged by

55:33

the time. People always they want to calm it down

55:36

because no matter what, you didn't break no law. I

55:38

didn't break a law anything,

55:42

But this is it's like a social contract.

55:44

Candis has a word for them forgetting. But

55:46

it's basically like they told

55:49

Candis and she couldn't hang out with me for

55:51

the Jewish people. What I'm doing is I'm me too

55:54

in the Jewish culture. I'm

55:56

saying, y'all gotta stand up

55:58

and admit to what you've been doing one and y'all

56:01

just got away with it for so long did

56:03

y'all don't even realize what you're doing. And

56:06

it's like, I can't

56:08

funk with me either, because y'all behind that gate

56:10

of fish, y'all soft, Your hands got soft. You

56:13

ain't out here getting beat up every day like

56:15

me. You ain't out here getting

56:17

called crazy every day like me.

56:20

I'm not gonna play anymore of that podcast because

56:22

honestly, this is where it starts getting into the territory

56:25

where it's just kind of exploiting someone's

56:27

mental health issues for entertainment,

56:29

and it gets like this is where it

56:31

gets very disjointed. Connie

56:33

starts talking about how the Louis Vatan company

56:36

killed one of his friends, Yeah,

56:39

who actually died of cancer. Um, it's

56:41

a it's a conspiracy that Connie's developed the past year.

56:43

And he also talked about this for seven

56:45

minutes UM in the

56:47

unused Tucker Carlson segments,

56:50

which I'm also not going to include because it's

56:52

also for context, like Virgil

56:55

is like royalty

56:59

among our community, like what he

57:01

did being the verst

57:03

black like head designer at

57:05

Louis Batton. Um, and I think

57:07

a lot of us, think a lot

57:09

of us I sound like Trump. A lot of people are saying

57:12

no, but there is an understanding that

57:14

um like

57:18

in a lot of ways Kanye was jealous of him,

57:20

Um in the in the way that he was able

57:22

to succeed and Louis Batton.

57:25

And then now that he's gone and and clearly Kanye

57:27

doesn't grieve well yea.

57:30

And another

57:33

segment of the Tucker leak includes a clip

57:35

where Kanye is discussing visions from God on

57:37

how to build free energy and fully

57:39

kinetic energy communities and

57:42

kinetic energy cities. So this

57:45

combine, like this is where I'm not going to actually

57:47

include any more clips of Kanye, because it's just it's

57:50

it's just the laughing at

57:52

the person who's not doing okay. But and

57:55

that's not cool. Now obviously,

57:57

like mental illness is not cannot

57:59

be used as an excuse for bigotry

58:02

or anti semitism. Um.

58:04

But exploding someone's suffering through

58:07

like up a manic episode to score political

58:09

points is also like immoral.

58:12

Um. And we're seeing a lot of like

58:14

false choices being presented towards mental

58:18

illness and anti semitism, And the

58:20

answer can actually be both.

58:23

Um. You know, those struggling with mental illness

58:25

do not kind of they don't originate

58:28

these types of bigotry, right um.

58:30

But in but when you're manic,

58:32

you can latch onto things and reflect them.

58:35

Um. And I's not saying it's okay,

58:37

but that also it's we should not deny

58:40

that. Like I have

58:42

seen a lot of people saying like, mentally ill people

58:44

don't say racist things, which are like, that's

58:47

not true. Like if like if you,

58:49

if you, if you've been around a lot of mentally ill people, they

58:51

cannot they can. It's it's it's

58:53

it's the same thing with people when people's brains are deteriorating

58:56

on dementia. One

58:58

of the last things they can say are curse words.

59:01

Yeah, it's it's, it's it's it's one of those weird

59:03

like like vector points inside

59:05

our brain. So yeah, you you actually

59:07

can be be racist when you're not

59:09

usually racist if you're experiencing a severe mental

59:11

health episode, and that's not that's not

59:14

excusing you for your behavior. But also we

59:16

shouldn't create this false division,

59:18

and we shouldn't like in some ways, it's

59:20

like you're like

59:22

a gate keeping mental illness by saying no,

59:24

no real mentally ill person could

59:27

say these bad things, which actually

59:29

in supportive people experiencing mental

59:32

distress. Yeah, it's on that same lane

59:34

as like the you know, the mass

59:36

shooters and stuff like that. Exactly, if you

59:38

just gonna call it mental illness, then like you can

59:40

oviscate any responsibility.

59:43

But also refusing

59:45

to acknowledge that mental health can play a

59:47

factor inside some mass shootings also

59:49

misses the point exactly because

59:51

it can play a very large factor, especially in

59:53

the wave of like skitz Awave inspired

59:55

shootings exactly. That's that's

59:57

what I was gonna say, that that that can

1:00:00

inflation of something

1:00:02

that really is real and really

1:00:04

is important. You know, uh

1:00:07

you see that. I see that with Like I've

1:00:10

known people who've worked in like, um,

1:00:14

you know, like legit human

1:00:17

trafficking, like not like the dog

1:00:19

Whistlee version, but like actual

1:00:22

rescuing you know, traffic

1:00:25

girls from the sex industry who were

1:00:28

like pulled from a village

1:00:31

you know what I'm saying and put into a brothel,

1:00:33

like people that are like really out here, like actually

1:00:35

doing the work, you know, where

1:00:38

trafficking is a thing, you know, and

1:00:40

then you conflated with these

1:00:44

you know, conspiracies, and

1:00:46

then like and of course a person who

1:00:48

really works in this thing, you're like you finally

1:00:51

feel like you're getting some traction with people to actually

1:00:53

care about the stuff you care about, you

1:00:55

know what I'm saying. And now now it's like if

1:00:58

you mentioned trafficking, it's like, yeah,

1:01:01

you can't. It's like how do I It's

1:01:04

like, no, serious, it's really a thing, Guy's really

1:01:07

it is, you know. But trying to disentangle

1:01:09

it from yeah, that's what

1:01:11

you're saying, is like to to do a one

1:01:14

or the other thing is missing the point of both situations.

1:01:16

Yeah, yeah, because because obviously, like Kanye

1:01:19

isn't someone who's dealing with like a temporary

1:01:22

mental health episode where he's yelling slurs

1:01:24

on the side of a sidewalk. Kanye is like

1:01:26

an affulent man who's making calculated and financially

1:01:28

driven choices. But that still

1:01:31

doesn't mean that stuff like bipolar does

1:01:33

not play a factor in the types of impulsive

1:01:35

decision making he's making and the types of

1:01:37

people that he surrounds himself with, which influences this

1:01:40

pattern of behavior. Combined with like social

1:01:42

media and combined with his celebrity status

1:01:44

christ the cycle of really

1:01:47

unhealthy choices. Um.

1:01:50

Like when when you're talking about like fake

1:01:52

children being planted in your home, like

1:01:55

that's like, yeah, that's not like it's

1:01:57

that's that's not dismissing

1:02:00

that as being no way related to mental

1:02:03

illness, I think is kind of a misstep. Um.

1:02:06

I mean, it's It's one of the

1:02:08

things that's tough about this is that it hits all

1:02:10

of the areas that, like the primary places

1:02:13

where conversation takes part socially

1:02:15

are worst at dealing with. Because

1:02:17

like, as we've said, mental illness

1:02:20

is a major factor in this. It also does

1:02:22

not exculpate him from bad behavior.

1:02:24

It doesn't make what he's saying not racist, um.

1:02:27

But it's also tied into like this

1:02:30

deep manipulation campaign that

1:02:32

the right is because they've been looking for a guy like

1:02:34

this forever. And you can see like that

1:02:37

that's why Tucker and all these folks were so quickly

1:02:39

to spin up when he wound up being like

1:02:43

amenable to that, like and it's yeah,

1:02:45

because he's he's very clearly being

1:02:47

encouraged to keep doing these sort

1:02:49

of things for like entertainment and clout

1:02:52

um. And I think

1:02:54

a lot of the responses to this kind

1:02:56

of show how stigmatized that more severe

1:02:59

personality disorders are compared to stuff like

1:03:01

anxiety or depression or a d H d UM.

1:03:04

Because you also don't want to like villainize

1:03:06

bipolar disorder instinct and stigmatize

1:03:09

it further because a lot of people can live with

1:03:11

bipolar disorder. I've known I've known people

1:03:13

that live with with bipolar disorder who

1:03:16

are not going on anti semitic

1:03:18

rants like it's like it manifests

1:03:20

different and lots of other people. So it's you should not use

1:03:22

this as an example to stigmatize other people with

1:03:25

this or say it's just this um

1:03:28

it creates you have to talk about you have to kind of

1:03:30

think of with this in a multi in a multifaceted fashion

1:03:32

where someone's not just good or not just bad.

1:03:35

It's actually you have to get

1:03:37

you know, less in too like puritanical,

1:03:41

you know, perfectly unblemished victims

1:03:43

and you know evil e like

1:03:46

like evil intention depressors like it. It's it's

1:03:48

more complicated than that. And the

1:03:51

the Internet is bad with bad bad

1:03:53

of nuance. One of the turns out

1:03:56

the Internet sucks at nuance. To

1:04:08

close this off, we're gonna talk about how

1:04:11

Kanye really has kind of been played

1:04:14

by by people like Candace Owens because a

1:04:17

little over a week after his banishment from the two

1:04:19

big mainstream social media platforms, this

1:04:21

past Monday, Kandie announced that he has

1:04:23

entered a deal to buy the failed

1:04:26

far right social media platform Parlor.

1:04:29

Parlor CEO George Farmer

1:04:31

said that his wife, conservative

1:04:34

influencer Candace Owens approached

1:04:36

Kanye about a Parlor deal while attending

1:04:39

his Paris Fashion Week show where

1:04:41

about where the payer of Them wore the Black

1:04:43

wore the White Lives Matter shirts. So

1:04:46

Candace Owens has been playing Kanye this entire

1:04:49

time and is and is convinced Kanye

1:04:51

to buy her husband's

1:04:53

failing business, like

1:04:56

she's just playing him. Like like Parlor

1:04:58

has currently only and daily active

1:05:00

users. Even gab get

1:05:02

Her and Trump's and Trump's

1:05:05

Truth Social have way more

1:05:07

daily users than Parlor, and Kennis

1:05:09

Owens has convinced

1:05:11

has convinced to buy the platform.

1:05:16

I'm sorry, did you say her husband

1:05:18

owns Parlor? Yes, her husband is the

1:05:20

CEO of Partner. Okay,

1:05:22

And for an idea of how failed it is, the

1:05:25

people I know who spend a

1:05:27

lot of their time hanging

1:05:29

out in far right spaces don't

1:05:31

even get on Parlor anymore. Like

1:05:33

it's it's it's it's not, it doesn't

1:05:36

matter, it's yes,

1:05:38

it's the CEO is

1:05:40

Kennys Owens husband. I

1:05:42

am a clint. I didn't. I

1:05:44

mean it's an obvious grift, right yeah,

1:05:47

I'm like, see this

1:05:50

is a bad one. She's a very smart

1:05:52

this is she's a successful grifter. She

1:05:55

that is. I can't believe it,

1:05:58

Like she finally broke character. What

1:06:00

I've been asking for these last to

1:06:02

this, these these two hours, is give

1:06:05

me a moment of clarity.

1:06:07

You just gave it to me, right like she Oh, there

1:06:09

it is, this is what I've been waiting for

1:06:12

got it I have, I've

1:06:15

I've one more page before we before we close

1:06:17

out. So okay, alright, I

1:06:19

feel I don't know how. I can't explain this,

1:06:22

the sense of relief. I feel like

1:06:24

it's so weird to say that, but I feel so relieved that

1:06:26

I'm like, no, it's it's it's it's it's extremely

1:06:28

telling and it confirms a lot of the things that we've

1:06:30

been thinking about what's been going on between

1:06:32

her and Kanye for the past like five years. Um.

1:06:36

So, Kanye has been hit with a with a two

1:06:38

d and fifty million dollar lawsuit by the family of George

1:06:40

Floyd. The lawsuit was filed

1:06:42

by Roxy Washington on behalf of

1:06:45

her and George Floyd's a daughter,

1:06:47

Gina. In a statement,

1:06:49

Washington's lawyers confirmed that she's doing

1:06:52

Kanye West and his business partners for defamation,

1:06:54

harassment, misappropriation, and infliction

1:06:56

of emotional distress. Um and the legal

1:06:58

team is allegedly considered or a number of other

1:07:01

possible defendants in the case, including

1:07:03

Candace Owens. So

1:07:07

it sucks that that's happening, but I like

1:07:09

that, like that that's just like re traumatizing

1:07:11

to the entire family. Um that

1:07:14

they're having to dredge up all this stuff to sue

1:07:16

fucking Kanye West and Candace Owen's

1:07:18

that sucks. But I hope

1:07:21

that they get all of their money,

1:07:23

Like I hope

1:07:25

that they get to live forever on

1:07:27

the money of Kanye West. Um,

1:07:31

it's like, look, dude, like again, it's

1:07:33

just that like that oh saying it's like,

1:07:36

you ain't gotta like me, but just you

1:07:38

you don't. You also don't have to be in my way,

1:07:41

you know. So even when I look at somebody

1:07:43

like a Candice or whatever, this like this

1:07:46

fhear of of specifically

1:07:49

persons of color in this right wing grivet

1:07:51

that I'm like, you

1:07:53

don't, like, you don't have to help me, but you also don't

1:07:56

have to hurt me, you know. And that's

1:07:58

and that's the part to me in I keep

1:08:00

coming back to that, it's like you're going out of your

1:08:02

way to hurt us, Like that's that's

1:08:05

I'm like, I don't get it, man, Like you

1:08:07

don't, you don't have to

1:08:09

do There is so much money. Here's the

1:08:11

thing. And this is gonna

1:08:13

sound terrible, but I mean it to be terrible.

1:08:16

There is so much money to be made off white

1:08:18

people, like you can

1:08:20

make so much money from them. We

1:08:23

have a lot of it. We took it from everywhere else.

1:08:25

Yes, you can make so much

1:08:28

from them without destroying

1:08:30

without tearing us down, you know, just

1:08:33

it's like get your money. Okay,

1:08:37

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm now

1:08:39

gonna read like my thesis on this, because

1:08:41

again I did, I did. I did not.

1:08:43

I initially did not want to cover this. I thought we probably

1:08:46

shouldn't. I thought that it's it's kind of explitting

1:08:48

the same media cycles that encourages

1:08:50

this type of healthy behavior in the first place. But

1:08:53

I have a thesis

1:08:55

on this that I want to kind of go through, and then

1:08:57

we can and and and in this discussion.

1:09:00

Though in an online economy

1:09:02

based on shock ad driven head

1:09:04

to discourse and data collecting online

1:09:06

engagement, Kanye's outbursts

1:09:08

are useful to be deployed as ready

1:09:10

made ammunition for culture wars,

1:09:13

even though what he said is so obviously

1:09:15

beyond the pale. Quoting New Republic.

1:09:18

West's celebrity, still existent

1:09:21

despite the years of controversy and alienation,

1:09:23

is simply too valuable for the right. After

1:09:26

decades of being denied the endorsement of

1:09:28

of predominant celebrities, with the exception

1:09:30

of like Clint Eastwood, UM and

1:09:33

and and someone like Donald Trump and

1:09:35

the rights gritting their teeth

1:09:38

through how celebrities don't really matter to

1:09:40

them. The right cherishes the affection

1:09:42

it receives from controversial crossover figures

1:09:44

such as Elon Musk and Kanye West,

1:09:46

and doesn't want to lose them to disrepute, or

1:09:49

at least wants to continue using

1:09:51

them in spite of it. West's willingness

1:09:54

to lend his imper mater to the pet causes

1:09:56

of people like Carlson and kind of Swan's

1:09:59

makes him invaluable and un

1:10:01

jettisonable. To pick up

1:10:03

a quote from the from uh

1:10:05

Washington Post, Polling has repeatedly

1:10:08

shown that white Republicans view themselves

1:10:10

as targets of discrimination equivalent

1:10:12

to non majority groups.

1:10:14

Carlson and Trump sharing in that sense,

1:10:17

highlight anecdotes that reinforce that sense

1:10:20

and push back against the group that's most forcefully

1:10:22

calling for the playing field to be leveled,

1:10:25

the left, the new elite. So

1:10:27

Carlson sees Kanye wearing a shirt

1:10:29

that explicitly casts whites as victims

1:10:32

and understands the opportunity. Here's

1:10:35

a member of the inner circle of the elite,

1:10:37

a black man who's willing to elevate the

1:10:39

idea that white lives are disadvantaged

1:10:42

in an equivalent way to Black lives.

1:10:44

To validate the victimization and discomfort,

1:10:47

let's set up an interview unquote, so

1:10:50

for Carlson's purposes, West did

1:10:52

not have to be Holy coherent. He

1:10:54

can easily edit out the parts where he's ranting

1:10:56

about the Jews, visions of kinetic

1:10:59

energy cities, and fake children. Carlson

1:11:01

was able to present to his viewers a famous black

1:11:03

man who is being punished for holding views

1:11:06

abhorred by the gate keeping cultural

1:11:08

elites. In the podcast, West

1:11:11

combined his anti semitism and anti black

1:11:13

infantilization into slander

1:11:16

that Jewish people have owned the

1:11:18

black voice. But it's Kanye

1:11:20

whose voice and platform is being used

1:11:22

by far right grifters for profit

1:11:25

by stoking white populist

1:11:27

racism against both Jews and Black

1:11:30

people, and now to buy their failed

1:11:32

social media apps. The conservative

1:11:34

Christian right that has grown to use Kanye as

1:11:36

a token won't be so quick to disown him

1:11:39

for overtly conspiratorial

1:11:41

or biggest statements. One of the lessons

1:11:43

that the right has learned from Donald Trump is that there's

1:11:45

no advantages to be gained from

1:11:47

criticizing one zone as long as they're

1:11:49

remaining loyal to the fundamental causes

1:11:51

of the movement, especially when it comes

1:11:54

to exploiting white grievance. West

1:11:56

is then permitted to be as blatantly anti Semitic

1:11:59

as he wants with out fear of sanction. He's clearly

1:12:01

bigoted and clearly suffering, but the Right

1:12:03

clearly considers him to be the most useful

1:12:05

idiot, or perhaps one of the brave

1:12:08

few people who's willing to say

1:12:10

the things that others may think but don't

1:12:12

yet dare utter. Some have argued that

1:12:14

there's no point in searching for meaning in

1:12:16

Kanye's almost decades long descent,

1:12:19

that there's no deeper insight here, just

1:12:21

the truth that that anti Semitism

1:12:24

is noxious and we're a tragically

1:12:26

long way from defeating it. But I think that

1:12:28

misses the relatively clear trajectory that

1:12:30

Kanye has been on since ultra life,

1:12:32

being to this now Christian identity

1:12:35

but black shit, and the

1:12:37

very real danger and influence that a

1:12:39

relatively small and unknown

1:12:41

weirdos like Canadas, owens can have

1:12:44

on like countrywide politics.

1:12:46

And finally, to paraphrase from the Columbia

1:12:49

Journalism Review, Kanye West's

1:12:51

statements are not of no consequence,

1:12:53

but anyone who spends time thinking about

1:12:56

them and talking about them needs

1:12:58

to not be complicit in ex ascerbating

1:13:00

those consequences, whether that be platforming,

1:13:02

bigotry or stigmatizing mental health issues.

1:13:05

If the media and the press must cover Kanye,

1:13:08

they should do so with context and with an eye

1:13:10

towards accuracy, reality,

1:13:12

history, and motivation. At

1:13:14

minimum, coverage should isolate what's important

1:13:17

to Kanye's and the story and describe

1:13:19

it clearly for what it is, rather than

1:13:21

mining him for controversy and then

1:13:23

performing ignorance or

1:13:25

agnosticism about the substance

1:13:28

of what he's saying. Sadly, too much top

1:13:30

line coverage of Kanye's recent outbursts

1:13:32

did the latter, with several mainstream outlets

1:13:34

referring to the tweets and headlines as alleged

1:13:37

anti semitic posts, or wrote

1:13:39

that the posts have been widely deemed

1:13:41

to be anti Semitic language that clearly

1:13:44

reveals more about the authors than its subject,

1:13:47

so that that's kind of my thesis on why

1:13:49

this is worth talking about and all

1:13:51

of the moving aspects about

1:13:53

what's going on here between Canadas, Owens, Tuck, Tucker,

1:13:56

Carlson, and Kanye West. So

1:13:58

yeah, good word, that's

1:14:00

really good. Let's

1:14:03

all go be sad. Yeah,

1:14:06

there's not really a solution here except besides

1:14:11

celebrity. Like, I mean, you know,

1:14:14

all of this has at its root

1:14:17

the same problems, which is that when you allow

1:14:20

money to equivalentate like

1:14:22

social and political power or equal

1:14:24

social and political power, and when

1:14:27

you then hand certain

1:14:29

individuals huge amounts of money, um,

1:14:31

a lot of them will either be outright

1:14:33

evil or out of their minds, or a

1:14:36

combination of the two, and they can cause tremendous

1:14:38

damage to society as a result of it. Um.

1:14:41

So it's good. Yeah, I think that

1:14:43

there's two you know, from from

1:14:45

my perspective, there's the the

1:14:47

metaphorical question of like, okay,

1:14:51

is he disinvited

1:14:53

to the barbecue? Like, which

1:14:55

is a you know, again a metaphorical question. I

1:14:58

don't know if you guys know what I mean when we say that, was like can

1:15:00

he come to the barb few? Yeah, so like yeah,

1:15:02

you know what I mean, Like So the question we need to ask

1:15:04

as a community as the culture, like

1:15:07

he so lovingly decides

1:15:09

to mock um, but is

1:15:12

that okay? So as a community,

1:15:15

what does it take for us to finally disavow

1:15:18

somebody's statements and just be like, all

1:15:20

right, brother, you're gone, you know, because right now it's

1:15:22

up for debate. You know, there are people that like, you

1:15:25

know, we checked out long time

1:15:27

ago. You know, there are other people that are like

1:15:29

still like, you know, we love the old Kanye

1:15:31

and that genius is still in there. Yeah, but this album

1:15:34

slaps Okay, I know he problem back. I know he put

1:15:36

the red hat on, but you know, the

1:15:38

Sunday services were so dope, you know what I'm saying.

1:15:40

Like, so you have that discussion continually

1:15:42

happening. But I think that that's something

1:15:44

as for for our community, we need to learn

1:15:47

how to We need to really discuss, you

1:15:49

know, what does it take for us to like finally

1:15:51

let somebody go Like again, I

1:15:54

I keep going back to our Kelly because I'm like,

1:15:57

dog, we knew, we knew since Aliyah that

1:15:59

like his brother had problems. You know. I mean,

1:16:02

I think if if there's a way to not

1:16:05

alienate him fully so that his

1:16:07

only friend is Canadas. Owens that would be

1:16:09

great exactly. That's that's why it's up for debate.

1:16:11

It's like, you, I don't know how that process

1:16:13

works. That's what I'm trying to say. That's part of the part.

1:16:15

That's part of the problem. It's like, but

1:16:18

you know why we why it hasn't

1:16:20

had why it doesn't happen so fast? Like I said, like our

1:16:22

defenses normally, our collective

1:16:24

identity is the community. That's how we defend

1:16:26

each other and protect each other from falling

1:16:29

off the edge, either from the police or from yourself.

1:16:31

It's like you bring them in and

1:16:33

just be like, oh baby, we need to have a talk, you

1:16:36

know. Um. But at some point

1:16:38

you're like, all right, family

1:16:41

done, you know. And that's what happened with R. Kelly. It

1:16:43

was like, all right, dog, we tried you

1:16:45

know, uh, we we tried

1:16:47

you We can't do this no more, you know.

1:16:50

UM. I think there's that, and I think there's also another

1:16:52

question. Obviously,

1:16:55

the the

1:16:57

American evangelical with you

1:17:01

know, statistically speaking, still only

1:17:03

represents nine to eleven percent

1:17:05

of christian as

1:17:08

a whole across the world. So you really like it's

1:17:10

a this is a specific to

1:17:13

us in America problem,

1:17:15

And I just wonder that's another question to me,

1:17:17

Like y'all like they always

1:17:20

looking for whether it was Tim Tebow or

1:17:23

you always looking for champions, you

1:17:25

know, and and this keeps happening

1:17:27

to you, keeps happening to you, and y'all end up looking

1:17:29

like assholes, you know what I'm saying, And

1:17:33

just not like the faith

1:17:35

you say you profess, Like when are y'all

1:17:37

gonna stop looking for champions, Like when you're gonna

1:17:39

stop looking for your and just be like,

1:17:41

let's just do the ship our

1:17:43

book says, you know, like for

1:17:45

better or for worse, Like, you know, I

1:17:49

just think that these are again, these are interesting

1:17:51

cultural questions. See, you don't need no celebrity,

1:17:53

Like why y'all always think you need a celebrity

1:17:55

because you just because again you're just trying to be cool

1:17:58

while at the same time saying that you stand

1:18:00

against the culture. It's like, well, well, funk, will

1:18:02

you stand against the culture? Why are

1:18:04

you always trying to have somebody from the culture

1:18:06

to be oh hero, you know, like well

1:18:09

ship, Like I don't know, I'm just saying, like

1:18:11

I think I do think that again,

1:18:13

I don't have no answers either, but I think that

1:18:16

these are like questions

1:18:18

that everybody that this fool affected y'all

1:18:20

really need to ask yourself, Like you need to ask

1:18:23

yourself, you know, like you said,

1:18:25

like the mental health stuff, the problem of celebrity,

1:18:27

which is a bigger problem. But to me, these are

1:18:30

he he he made.

1:18:32

He's making us inadvertently

1:18:34

ask ourselves these big systemic

1:18:36

questions that we still

1:18:38

are afraid to reckon with. I feel

1:18:41

like I

1:18:45

think that's a good note to end. Well,

1:18:48

everybody that's gonna do it

1:18:50

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