It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 02:00 — The conditions of Making
• 11:47 — A tinfoil theory of the open office
• 17:25 — The Gold Standard of Working
• 20:30 — "Users", "Citizens", ...
• 28:28 — "Undo" in Making
• 30:35 — Of Peace, War, and Wonder
• 41:45 — The Innovators' AI(?)
• 50:20 — Selling certainty (where there's none)
• 54: 40 — Designing for the Messy Whole
• 1:01:50 — Wrapping up

LINKS

• The Apartment — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/
• Herman Miller Action Office — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office
• Casey Neistat — https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&t=128
• Designing Roles — https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles
• Pace Layering — https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg
• Simon Wardley — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley
• Peace, War, Wonder — https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html
• More or Less Podcast — https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod
• The "Stingray" model — https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/
• The Double Diamond — https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/
• Practice with Peet — https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet
• Hot vs Cool  Media

ABOUT US

• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
• Peet Sneekes - https://peetsneekes.com

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