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What's up everyone? Welcome

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to the 606 episode of the

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Pokemon Podcast. It's super effective. Your

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host, Steve, with me is Al.

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And I am awake, physically,

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maybe not mentally. You've

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already done your work day though. It's early here.

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Well, yeah, that's part of the problem, right? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. We

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also have Chris from the GoCast here with us today

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too. What's going on?

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I'm awake, although that's not exciting. It's

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the middle of the day. So less

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notable, I suppose. I have less excuse. I

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feel like this is

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the first official episode you've

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been on, Chris. Otherwise, we've

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done crossover episodes, but not

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a numbered episode. Yes,

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that's true. I'm nervous. Oh my gosh.

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Well, before we get in, I guess in case

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any of my listeners don't know who you are, you

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can do your little spiel. Oh,

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sure. It's nice and quick. Hi,

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I'm Chris. I

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run a podcast called GoCast Podcast. It's

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a Pokemon Go specific podcast. So you

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get your Pokemon Go news here. We also cover

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the same news over there. So if you like

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what you hear, more of that at

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GoCast. It's pretty much it. You can find

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us anywhere. Hey. Yep. Anywhere

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you find podcasts. If you're watching the video

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version, I am still sunburnt because I got

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sunburnt at the event. I

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forgot sunscreen. But it was

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so nice. We like here's okay. So this

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episode we're going to talk. We're

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just going to talk about the go tour because we were there.

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whether it was worth the money, all that stuff.

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First time Al was in America. It's

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also like, when this comes out, it's

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coming out the day before Pokemon Day and

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we've already done a speculation episode. We'll do

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like a Pokemon Day episode, obviously when that

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happens. So this is like a good, we'll

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hold, holding us over until Pokemon Day. I

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guess starting with the event, it

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had perfect weather, except it was too

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perfect, it was deceiving and I didn't

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put sunscreen on because it was like

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65, there was a nice breeze, there

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was some clouds. And

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then I got sunburned. The clouds will get you.

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Yeah, because it's like, you go, oh it's not

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sunny, yeah, but those UV rays still get you.

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And it's winter, we're not meant to get sunburned

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in the winter. That's true, I've never gotten sunburned

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in February. Really,

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it's Niantic's fault. How dare they?

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I don't think I got sunburned in Vegas. He

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didn't, I certainly did, I got cooked in Vegas.

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Oh yeah, I think I do remember that. Yeah,

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I'm pretty sure, I was close to Sun

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Boys near the game, which is like a

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live event go staple for

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me personally, I suppose. I feel

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like in Vegas, don't you get sunburned just from

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the artificial lighting, so strong. That's

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true, then neon, Chris, you're

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right up. Disclosures

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here, Niantic did

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pay for Chris's ticket and

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my ticket to the event, which

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was like what, like $35 or something? Yeah,

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plus all the add-ons, so whatever that value

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was, it was like 70 some odd, some

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odd dollars I think. Oh, the egg incubator,

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the, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no shirt, for

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whatever reason, Niantic's like, you gotta buy your

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own shirt. No shirt, no

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handouts. We're

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not handing out shirts here for free. So just

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disclosure, Niantic did pay for our tickets, Al paid

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for his own ticket, and then we

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all paid for our own

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flights and hotels. So

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there's your disclosure whether or

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not. Which was significantly more than 35. And

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it was Al's first

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time in America. Do

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we want to start there? Al, I thought you

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would have way more culture shock and it didn't

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seem like you had any. Well,

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I wouldn't say there wasn't any. I think

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at the actual event, it was very easy

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not to have culture shock, right? Because it's

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just a golf course and sure,

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there was the stadium. But like we have

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a stadium here, like it's not an unusual thing. Like

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none of that was weird. And

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it's not like American people being around as weird.

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Like I live near Edinburgh, which is a very

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touristy city. So there's always

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Americans, right? I will say, I think

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the most foreign it

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felt was when after I

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got off the Metro and I was

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walking to my hotel. And

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I was like, wait, how do roads work?

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I suddenly realized these crosswalks,

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as you call them there, are so

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different to how crossings work over here.

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So it was just like, I have

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no idea how to work these immediately.

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Like sure, you press the button, but

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you have to find the button. The buttons are

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not in the place I would expect them to

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be. You know, that was probably the biggest shock

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to me, just like at roads. Yeah,

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I noticed when I was with Tone that

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he wouldn't walk when it said do not

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walk. But like you have so much

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time. I

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think that's because, so here,

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jaywalking is not illegal at all, right? So

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I would do it all the time here. But I am

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aware that at least in some places in

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America, it is illegal. And the chances of

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you getting caught are very minuscule. But

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I think when you're in, I don't know about you

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guys, but when you're in a foreign country, I think

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you are way more careful than you need to be.

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Because it's like, I am not doing anything that

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risks me getting arrested, even on

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the most silly thing. So yeah,

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like that, I think was probably the reason

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why. Yeah,

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that's completely fair. I'm from Chicago. So

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jaywalking isn't even in my vocabulary. technically

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not legal, but whatever. Yeah,

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I feel like if you're in Chicago,

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everyone's jaywalking. If you're not jaywalking, you're

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a touring. Right,

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the crosswalk is where the traffic is not.

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That's the rule of thumb. Yeah, there was

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actually, there was one intersection I

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noticed in Pasadena that had crosswalks

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diagonally as well as across the way. Even

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there, I felt I heard

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some Americans confused and they were like,

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I feel like I'm doing something wrong

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walking diagonally across. I'm like, that's

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funny because I would just do that all the time in

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the cities here. I

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feel like for an event in Pasadena, I

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feel silly, I was

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going to say dumb, but mostly silly.

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I booked my hotel in Pasadena,

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which was slightly more expensive because

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Pasadena is a nicer city. I

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felt like I spent zero time

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in Pasadena. It

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was like, why did I- I feel like we were always driving somewhere

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else. Yeah, I was like, why did I book here at all?

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There was, Niantic did

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do, here are some

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touristy things to do in Pasadena. For

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the most part, they're all pretty walkable. I

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don't think I did any of them. I walked to

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a jack in the box and I walked to a

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Rite Aid and I walked to

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a Target, but those are just to get

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necessities not to necessarily explore the city. They

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did have a park

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and ride station in Pasadena that you park your

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car and then the bus would just- there was

7:36

just constant buses that were free that would take

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you to the stadium, but it

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wasn't efficient for me to do that. It

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was a 25 minute walk to

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walk to the station and then another

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like 15 minutes on the bus because

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it has to go its weird way

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where I could just take a 10 minute

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Uber for $10, which

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I guess was the benefit of being in Pasadena is the

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Uber was really cheap. have them drop me

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off. You could just drive

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and park there for $30. I think

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parking was $30. I don't

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know how much of a mess that was. It's

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a stadium. I'm sure they had way more than

8:11

enough parking for that. Yeah, I

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don't think the amount of parking was the problem. I

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think it was the everybody came out at the same

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time there was the issue. So you

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got there, what happened? 40 minutes, 45

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minutes ahead of us or something. And

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we got the bus. We drove to

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the parking ride and

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we got on the bus. And the bus was fine for

8:32

most of the time. But once we got on the road

8:35

down to the stadium, it was gridlock.

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There were so many cars because there were like

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three roads all coming together at one point. And

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there were queues up all of those roads. So

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eventually, what we managed to do is we actually convinced

8:46

the bus driver to let us off. And we walked

8:48

down and we were overtaking the traffic at that point.

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Yeah, I think it was just like everybody decided, oh,

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I'm going to get there for 10 to nine. And

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that gives me enough time. But of course, if everybody

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decides they're going to do that, then

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10,000 people decide they want to park the

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cars all at the same time. That's the

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problem there. Which doesn't make

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sense because this is a stadium. And I feel

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like getting in and out. People are more

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spread out then when there's an actual game. I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know. See

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what they're the football game. They

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know how to handle traffic. I guess

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I don't know. With football games, people are showing

9:20

up like two hours early or more sometimes

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to tailgate and stuff. So maybe that does

9:25

sort of like help a little bit. Yeah,

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we were all trying to get there within

9:29

the same 30 minutes. And there's just one

9:31

lane streets surrounding the stadium

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more or less. And it was

9:35

just like neighborhoods right away. It

9:39

was pretty crazy, I think infrastructure wise. But

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Ubers were remarkably cheap. I do want

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to go back and highlight that because especially

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compared to getting an Uber in New York

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for Go Fest, the same

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distance was like three times the cost.

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I was very surprised in California to

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see Ubers and then the Ubers for

9:57

Vegas were also not very... cheap

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either. And it was much

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farther because there was nothing

10:05

around the Vegas park at all.

10:07

A subway. That's

10:11

not a subway, but the food right in

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the way. That's a subway station, a subway

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restaurant. That's right. I

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wonder how much of that is to do with It's

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California in February, because Vegas,

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I suspect, is probably pretty busy

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all year round, right? Because you don't

10:28

go there to be outside. You go

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there to go gamble and drink

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and do all those things, right? Whereas

10:35

in California, you go to go to

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the beach. And so it's not going

10:39

to be as busy in February. And then obviously New

10:41

York was in the summer, which all

10:44

bets off then, right? Yeah. Yes.

10:48

Seemingly so, at least. I don't live there, but it

10:50

definitely seemed like that

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for sure. I don't know.

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Maybe people are going to New York in January and February.

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I don't know. Because I'd be too risky getting stuck in

10:58

the beach. I don't know. You know? Can

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ice skate to the Statue of Liberty in

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back, you know? Yeah. That freezes right over,

11:05

I'm sure. Absolutely. So for

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being a stadium, I have

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three problems written down for this entire event,

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which is a

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small amount of problems compared to past Pokémon

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Go events. The first problem was,

11:19

for being a stadium and having technically

11:23

eight plus entrances, like

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A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H,

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I don't know that there's an I, I think went up to

11:30

H, they only had

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one entrance open. And

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I guess I was foolish.

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I was surprised but not surprised. The

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thing that happened in Vegas, so

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here's some context, the thing

11:45

that happened in Vegas is Niantic put out a

11:47

tweet saying, hey, I love this

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tweet, by the way. I thought this tweet

11:52

was awesome. They said, hey, if you don't

11:54

have a ticket to this event, maybe don't

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show up. And it was like a very

11:59

passive aggressive tweet. And I'm

12:01

all for them being passive-aggressive. I think

12:03

it was great. I loved it. I

12:05

know some people were like Well, that's

12:07

your fault. Like no, I thought it was

12:09

a great tweet. I stand by the passive-aggressive

12:11

Niantic. I loved it but

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what happened in Vegas

12:16

is they put up a Wi-Fi network and

12:18

they they calculated I don't know the math

12:20

of like we can have this many people

12:23

in this area and everything will be fine

12:25

They calculated it to be like 20,000 people

12:29

and I think they sold like 18,000 tickets

12:31

for that event or something It was like

12:33

they had just like a buffer of people

12:35

and then what happened is 30,000

12:38

people showed up and this is like

12:40

a classic American thing and I even saw this

12:42

leading up to this event This

12:44

event of the LA event of like I

12:46

don't have a ticket. I'm still gonna show up and play I don't

12:49

have a ticket but maybe I'll get a

12:51

ticket when I'm there or I don't have

12:54

a ticket but my friend is going and

12:56

so you have 30,000

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people on a 20,000 person network and

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then the whole thing crashed. It

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is a public park You're allowed to be

13:05

in it, right? Like but I

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think there's like that entitlement of like or

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or the like lack of research of like

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Even when I was walking into

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LA I walked past a group of people that were like

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we don't have tickets We'll just get them at the door and

13:19

like there there there is no tickets at the door

13:22

Like how how did you pay $30

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to park drive all this way and

13:27

then we'll walk up with

13:29

the the Mindset of

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like they must have tickets there Yeah

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And I think the thing is I can understand

13:36

now having been in a city where a Pokemon

13:38

go event is happening I can

13:40

understand people going I want to

13:42

be there right because like playing

13:44

in downtown Pasadena on the Sunday

13:48

Was pretty fun, right? There were there were

13:50

people everywhere and and like I was just

13:52

walking down and someone I think

13:54

I was wearing The t-shirt so maybe that's how they knew

13:56

but they were like, oh, did you know about masculine on

13:58

roots? And I was like, oh, yeah, it's I did

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thanks, you know, just that sort of stuff. It was there

14:02

was a real community spirit there. And I can understand people

14:04

doing that. But there's a big difference between

14:06

that and trying to actually show up to the

14:08

stadium itself. I

14:11

don't know what the they turned

14:13

off the spawns around the stadium when you were

14:15

outside the geofence. I don't know if that was

14:17

new. Was that a new thing they did? No,

14:19

they've done that at previous events. They've done that

14:21

at other events where they make

14:23

a dead zone before you get in. Yeah.

14:25

And that wasn't even just for for non ticket holders.

14:28

That was for everyone. We were standing in the queue

14:30

for half an hour. And the disappointing thing is then

14:32

you're standing in the queue for half an hour and

14:34

you can't play Pokemon Go because you're just seeing nothing

14:36

around you except that the step this stops there in

14:39

a distance. But I understand why

14:41

they did it. It is nice, though, because

14:43

it was technically a fenced sort of experience.

14:45

So non ticket holders really couldn't even get

14:47

in more or less to

14:50

this event, which was different than Vegas. Vegas

14:52

was just open. You could

14:54

walk across the street after enjoying the Subway sandwich

14:57

and and hop into the park. I

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have no other reference to any other place around that.

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So I'm just going to keep referencing it. But

15:04

yeah, this was not the case. There was queues and

15:06

security checks and all sorts of stuff. And it was

15:08

a fenced in golf course. This is

15:10

why I felt silly because I was like, why

15:13

would you have to go through the gate

15:15

into the stadium? Because the stadium

15:17

itself had really nothing in it. Like,

15:19

like, if you look at the map, everything is on

15:21

the golf course. And I was like, why would you have

15:24

to get in line to go into the stadium to then

15:26

go to the golf course? But the golf course was gated

15:28

in. So what we're saying is this event was a

15:30

gated event, which was not like

15:33

Vegas, which was walk anywhere, which was

15:35

not like the second or third time

15:37

they did Chicago, which was walk anywhere.

15:40

But it is similar to Osaka, which

15:42

I went to for Go Fest, which

15:45

was in a stadium. Well, the

15:47

Expo 96 Park, which

15:50

was gated, which also had a line that you had

15:52

to stand in, which we could argue we could sit

15:54

here and spend the next hour arguing that Japanese people

15:56

are way more efficient at standing in a line than

15:58

American people. This is. There's really

16:00

no debate there honestly. Yeah, I was about

16:02

to say I don't think we're gonna argue very much in that at all And

16:06

then the Berlin Park for go fest

16:08

which was two years ago now Also

16:11

was gated, but it was like if

16:14

you were a ticket holder to that park you go

16:17

in regardless But that

16:19

park had like eight entrances as well

16:21

the this park for LA had one

16:23

entrance and Then the

16:25

the gym the Japanese Osaka Park

16:27

had one entrance So it's

16:30

it's you solve a problem

16:32

by like not Overloading your server

16:34

by having a gated entrance and

16:37

then you don't come off as petty being like

16:39

don't come to this public place But then you

16:42

you have the line issue Which

16:44

is like I believe they

16:46

did open more gates for the Sunday. So yeah, that's

16:49

what I heard Yeah, I'm assuming

16:51

the lines were better on Sunday Yeah,

16:53

I was there around 9 and it was

16:55

just a completely different picture Okay, cuz yeah

16:57

cuz when we arrived at 9 like

17:00

it took us 10 minutes to find the end of

17:02

the queue. Oh Yeah It

17:06

was as far as the I could see four

17:08

different times going backwards and forwards and it was

17:10

the same thing I Like

17:13

a Steve was right It was the same thing that

17:15

I said like two months ago that I bet that

17:18

the stadium would be gay I thought the stadium would

17:20

just be like the the gated entrance to get into

17:22

the stadium But you it was just like Osaka you

17:24

had to show your phone you

17:26

had to show that you had the ticket and then they

17:28

would they would let you in and Niantic's

17:31

apology for people waiting in line on

17:34

Saturday was to extend City play from

17:36

5 to 8 Which

17:38

I think was like a good Like

17:41

solution like cool. I waited like I don't think anyone

17:43

waited in line for more than 30 to 40 minutes

17:47

So to be like you're waiting in line to

17:49

get in the park, but we're giving you three more hours of

17:51

content Was I think a

17:53

good compromise? So it

17:56

is but I think it kind

17:58

of begs the question after years of that kind

18:00

of being the solution? Do you think they're getting too

18:02

comfortable with that? Because I would

18:04

say no. I would say no on this

18:06

event because the quick pivot on Sunday shows

18:09

that they're willing. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's not

18:12

like they just went, oh, we'll do the

18:14

same thing tomorrow and then just apologize again.

18:16

They went, no, no, we're actually going to

18:18

change it. I guess the problem is, and

18:21

this is, I think most

18:24

people, I suspect, would want to see

18:26

this happening where they keep changing locations.

18:28

They've done that so many different times,

18:32

but it does lead to the problem where they

18:34

can't be 100% sure how it's going to work

18:36

in each different location. You

18:38

could argue maybe they should have anticipated the

18:40

fact that six people

18:43

checking to go in is not enough people

18:45

when there's, what, 10,000

18:47

people going to an event? Yeah.

18:49

Do we get numbers how many people attended this? I

18:53

haven't seen them. Not that I've seen no. How

18:56

do you stress test that, the capacity of it?

18:58

I guess you kind of ask the venue, hey,

19:00

we're expecting an X number of people. We know

19:02

you've had events here that exceed that. What can

19:05

we expect? Then that's all they can go off

19:07

of because they can stress test their network, but

19:09

they can't stress test tens of

19:11

thousands of people trying to get in the line. Yeah.

19:14

I guess you just assume that people are all going to turn

19:16

up at the same time and then go, well, we need to

19:18

make sure there's as much opportunity as possible for people to get

19:21

through. And they have... And

19:24

this is just my ignorance for getting a free

19:26

ticket and not really looking at it. Was there

19:28

not like an early bird, like get there at

19:30

nine? And then was there not like a get

19:32

there at 10 ticket? No, there was just a

19:34

Saturday and a Sunday ticket. Oh,

19:37

okay. Interestingly, well, this is the

19:40

other thing I'm a little bit confused by. You had

19:42

to say where you were starting, so you'd either choose

19:44

the stadium or the golf course, but

19:46

there was only ever one entrance in the end. Yeah,

19:48

that was always... It's likely changed

19:50

their mind at the end and they were going to do one at the

19:52

top where it was

19:55

a bubbling mire was, and then

19:57

they changed their mind and they were just going to do the one at the

19:59

bottom. So that was a bit weird

20:01

because we were arriving and we're like, I assume

20:03

this is our queue because we were a stadium

20:05

entrance, but I can't see the other queue. I

20:07

don't know. There's no signs for that.

20:09

That was a bit confusing. What was interesting in

20:11

Osaka, and I would love to see Niantic maybe

20:14

adopt this for future events is, and to solve

20:16

the problem of like too many people

20:18

or a line is it

20:21

wouldn't be nice if there was like a staggered

20:23

rollout. Like you can buy the

20:25

9am ticket and then you leave at five.

20:27

You can buy the 10am ticket and you

20:30

leave at six. You can buy the

20:32

11am ticket because I don't want to be up at nine. I

20:35

don't. That's so early, especially like

20:37

when you're walking eight hours and you're like, I got to do

20:39

it again tomorrow. I

20:42

would like to get there at like 10 or 11 and then

20:44

have that later experience. And I'm sure there are parents that are

20:46

like, I want to be back at five. I want to put

20:48

the kids to bed. They want the

20:50

early experience, but I think that alleviates that thing.

20:54

And also they can just simply do it. In

20:56

Osaka, if you

20:58

were in the park at the morning part, so

21:00

like 10 to two and then it was like

21:03

two to six or whatever, because they have done

21:05

that before, your spawns just

21:07

completely shut off. And

21:09

then they were just like, here's the

21:11

exit and everyone just exited to go into the

21:14

city. And once you left that stadium, like your

21:16

spawns came back because they geofenced

21:19

the park. And so it was

21:21

like, you could be like, oh my thing ends at six, but

21:23

I'm going to stay here till like you could. You

21:25

don't have any spawns anymore. It

21:28

was having everyone just show up at nine. It

21:31

was like, I don't know, not the best. It

21:33

wasn't like the worst, but it wasn't the best.

21:37

Yeah. I mean, I would have turned up earlier

21:39

if I could have started

21:42

the event earlier, especially being on

21:44

Pacific time, you know, eight o'clock,

21:46

nine o'clock Pacific time

21:49

is what, eight hours later

21:52

than nine o'clock here. Yeah.

21:54

I think, I think it's good.

21:56

Sorry. I think as good of an

21:58

idea as that is though, I think. for

22:01

them, they'd have to pay people to

22:03

work longer and then they'd have to

22:05

have people managing those waves and understand

22:07

how that works at the gates and

22:09

stuff. I don't know what

22:11

that looks like though on their back end if that's worth it

22:13

or not. Well, at least with the

22:15

city, the go

22:17

fest thing of like four hours in the park, four hours in

22:19

the city which they did for Seattle, they

22:22

did for New York, they

22:24

can get more people into it technically

22:26

because they're rotating out. However

22:29

many people. I mean

22:31

technically I don't think it's that difficult,

22:33

right? They give a different medal to different people

22:35

and then the medal decides what happens, right? Like

22:37

that's not a particularly difficult thing to do. They've

22:40

shown they can do that as Steve says with the

22:43

morning and evening ones. I do think... I

22:47

think it's interesting that this didn't do the same way that

22:49

go fest did with the morning and the afternoon. It was

22:51

a whole day event and

22:53

I don't know whether that's because they want

22:56

it to be different from go fest or

22:58

whether they were expecting fewer people. But

23:02

I think the other thing about staggering it is I'm

23:04

not sure it would actually reduce the number of people coming

23:06

at one time because it would just mean they could

23:08

sell more tickets. You're right.

23:10

That's true. That's true. Yeah. Which

23:13

would be a legitimate reason for them doing it if they wanted

23:15

to do that. But I don't think it would solve the problem

23:17

we're trying to solve here. They did

23:19

sell out both days. And I think it's

23:21

funny because this is this was a thing

23:23

that happened in Vegas where you

23:25

saw like a handful of people tweeting that

23:28

it was the worst event ever or everything

23:30

was down. But like for the

23:32

people that were there like they had a

23:34

good time and like

23:37

not defending Niantic like the first like two

23:39

hours were really shaky to get back onto

23:41

the network and to establish that. And we

23:43

already established why the network went down because

23:45

10,000 extra people showed up. But

23:47

I think it's funny this time around when I

23:49

was looking on TikTok or social media or like

23:52

Twitter and stuff that there was just pictures of

23:54

what looked to be like a semi empty stadium.

23:56

And then people were like, oh, what a dead

23:58

game. Look at how many people showed up. But

24:00

it's like no one was in the stadium because

24:03

there was nothing to do in the stadium the

24:05

only things at the stadium were like getting your

24:07

picture with the algorithm palkia and then Getting

24:10

your picture with Pikachu or Eevee and that was like

24:12

they only came out at certain times And there

24:15

was like one poke to stop in the very middle of the stadium

24:18

That you could reach if you were sitting on the bleachers But

24:21

like spawns were pretty light in the stadium which kind

24:23

of makes I think Was so

24:25

that like you were there for

24:27

pictures and not necessarily for that Yeah, but as soon

24:29

as you walked out of the stadium Like

24:32

all around the stadium was the first what

24:34

do they call that zone habitat?

24:37

Which was the habitat? Yeah seaside

24:39

metropolis Which I think had

24:41

like the best spawns of the event and all you had

24:43

to do is like walk around the stadium in a circle

24:47

which had like the shell loss and the

24:49

fini on the other shell loss and Whatever

24:53

other seaside Oregon. Come on.

24:55

Yeah, poor. Yeah, the real banger of

24:58

a Pokemon Very

25:00

watery Yeah, we went

25:02

into the stadium twice. We when we arrived It

25:04

was like alright was go straight into the stadium

25:06

and then we went in and we're like No,

25:09

no, this is not where we want to be and

25:12

then we came back with lunch to sit down How

25:15

was that was it? They're the only two times we went

25:17

in the stadium. I Wasn't

25:19

wasting time getting picture with With

25:22

some models when we could be catching Pokemon

25:25

We got those horses to get that's right

25:29

I don't know how you felt about the

25:31

layout of this event compared to Vegas Chris

25:33

But I didn't love how it was laid

25:36

out. It didn't like Make

25:38

or break the event for me. I was just I

25:40

didn't like walking to a dead end and being like, okay

25:42

We got to turn around. Yeah, I think they could have

25:44

done a better job of it feeling more like a loop

25:46

instead of like a line Like

25:49

the go fest in Lincoln Park was also long and

25:51

narrow like that I think it was longer than this

25:53

was because this was I

25:55

was hearing people say a mile from stem to

25:57

stern of this park but But

26:01

yeah, I think Lincoln Park was a mile

26:03

and some change, but yeah, this definitely did

26:05

feel like almost like a relay race. Like

26:07

you run to the end, you touch the

26:10

fence, and then you get to walk back. But

26:13

there was almost like two halves. If

26:16

you were really paying attention to the paved paths, there was

26:18

like one on the left you could have gone up and

26:20

then you could have turned around and did the other one

26:22

on the left then to walk

26:24

back. But it didn't

26:27

feel like a loop either way. Yeah.

26:30

I'm a little bit confused. Obviously, I've not been to other

26:32

ones either. I don't know whether they

26:34

were limited in what area they were allowed to use,

26:36

like whether they were using because there was that river

26:38

through the middle. So maybe they were told you have

26:40

to stay to the other side of the river to

26:42

make it simple. Okay, let's be clear here. It

26:45

wasn't a river. It was like...

26:48

Okay. A stream. LA

26:50

is like... LA is like... LA

26:52

is like... You were a run-off. That water was

26:54

moving. It was doing a good clip. Yeah.

26:58

But like if you just take that like top section

27:01

and put it to the right of the third

27:04

one, it would have been essentially a square

27:06

and would have felt much better. I

27:08

agree. It was like you didn't

27:10

really want to go to the top section,

27:13

not least because there were no toilets at the

27:15

top. And then

27:17

also you just felt like I'm walking away

27:19

from everything rather than walking to

27:21

some other things. Yeah. So

27:23

like looking at the map, and

27:26

I don't know if this is just because it wasn't

27:28

part of their official path, but it doesn't look like

27:30

there was a bridge. It looks like there are some

27:32

paths that are crossing that must have been closed off,

27:34

but like on their official map,

27:36

they only have those three foot

27:38

bridges over that like little waterway right

27:41

at the bottom there. So it's like

27:43

kind of a commitment to go all the way up

27:45

to Bubly Meyers to maybe get a stunky and then

27:48

walk all the way back. Yeah.

27:51

I suspect it's just not telling us about the

27:53

bridges that didn't exist because they didn't... Yeah, I

27:55

think you're right. Not

27:57

100% sold on the concept of like let's

27:59

have this. at a stadium and then

28:01

now that we've cleared that like the event

28:03

wasn't actually in the stadium, I was like

28:05

around the stadium. Near

28:08

a stadium. Near a stadium. But

28:10

I will say that the cool

28:12

thing here compared to Vegas, I

28:15

didn't have this problem in the Osaka

28:17

experience. I don't know about New York

28:20

but because it was a stadium, they

28:22

had all the stadium restaurants open. So

28:25

you get like hot dogs, nachos, burgers,

28:27

pizza and because there

28:29

were so many around the stadium,

28:32

lines were relatively short. Now

28:34

they did have food trucks and

28:36

I don't know if people at a certain point

28:38

forgot or walked to the stadium and never looked

28:40

around but the food truck lines were like four

28:42

times longer and I don't

28:45

know who was waiting like maybe

28:47

it was like lightly better food. I think

28:50

it's just because people that there's much more

28:52

of an allure to a food truck and

28:54

event than it is going to a stand

28:56

and getting like a stadium hot dog or

28:58

a slice of pizza. I think that's really

29:00

just it, you know. I also

29:03

wouldn't be surprised if some people went into

29:05

the stadium went, oh this isn't really where

29:07

the event is and then went straight through

29:10

to the park and didn't realize that around

29:12

the stadium was actually

29:14

a good place to be

29:16

sometimes as well and therefore they weren't

29:18

really paying attention to that and when they came back to

29:20

get food, they saw the food trucks, I

29:23

think it's I see a place that has food

29:25

I go there and that's the first

29:27

place you see so you go there because the

29:29

first restaurant in the stadium as well

29:32

also had that issue and I was

29:34

guilty of it. I saw that and I went, oh

29:36

there we go I'm gonna go there because that the

29:38

queues are already long let me get

29:40

in that queue I'll eat something from there and

29:43

it turned out that was the longest queue in the stadium and

29:45

if I just walked a few minutes later

29:48

I could have got food in a tenth

29:50

of the time. Yeah so we

29:52

were walking, we were doing laps around and on

29:54

Sunday, Steve I wasn't sure what you were about

29:56

to say. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah yeah the

29:58

other side first of all Ashwat. hidden from

30:00

public site back there. And

30:03

then there were like two or three stands

30:05

and like nobody in line. It's

30:07

just like oh if we had maybe just walked

30:09

first and then... Yeah, this is like the weird

30:11

part of the layout because they put spawns all

30:13

around the stadium. So if you were just like

30:15

I want to get Shailas, I want to get

30:17

Finian, so I'm gonna stay in this

30:20

area. Which is like a good strategy. Like

30:22

I spent way too much time in the

30:24

desert in Vegas, which was an actual desert.

30:28

I spent way too much time in Vegas's desert

30:30

trying to get in Nincada because that's what I

30:32

wanted. I was like I have everything else I

30:34

want in Nincada, so I was like

30:37

I want both Shailas. So I

30:39

want two blues, I want two pinks. I'm gonna

30:41

just keep walking in a circle for the stadium,

30:43

which I did with Chris on Sunday. And

30:46

because of the way the park is laid

30:48

out, no one went to the right side

30:50

of the stadium because you

30:53

go left and then left leads you into the golf course.

30:55

And then once you're in the golf course, you either commit

30:57

to going to the end of the golf course and then

30:59

commit coming back. When we

31:01

went to the right, there was like picture opportunities

31:03

there that had like no lines. There

31:05

were so many food things that had no lines. There

31:08

were bathrooms with no lines. And there was just not

31:10

a lot of people over there even though the spawn

31:13

density over there was great. It

31:16

was awesome. Yeah. And

31:19

then the cool thing about the stadium is

31:21

it offered unlimited seating, which was

31:23

like a problem in Vegas and other events

31:25

of like, okay, cool. I just spent $30

31:28

on really bad food. Where am I going

31:30

to like sit to do this? And

31:32

like you could just walk in the stadium and sit on the

31:35

bleachers and then eat your food. It was really great. They

31:38

did have picnic tables by the food trucks, but like

31:40

9, 12

31:42

picnic tables, like not nearly enough for

31:45

the course. But I

31:47

kind of like the stadium

31:50

concept. I kind of like

31:52

having way more bathrooms, way

31:54

more food options, and

31:56

way more seating for

31:58

really like not losing. anything on

32:01

that. Although picture-wise it

32:03

does make it look weird of like why is

32:05

the stadium so empty and it's like oh because

32:07

everyone is in the golf course that's why. Yeah

32:10

optically that was a little bit strange but

32:12

like once you once you're there you're like

32:14

oh it's just for these blow-up palkia and

32:17

dialga pictures really right. But yeah I would

32:19

agree from an amenity standpoint it was a

32:21

lifesaver a game changer even like

32:23

I almost feel bad comparing this to

32:26

Vegas because it was so different

32:28

you know like there was shade the

32:31

trees were taller so like cast longer

32:33

shadows. Here's my one like thing

32:35

I liked

32:41

about Vegas compared to this

32:43

is Vegas because it was like

32:45

a public park they had

32:47

really big sidewalks like

32:50

to the point where you could fit like

32:52

three wheelchairs like next to each other and

32:54

push them at the same time like that's

32:57

how that's how I would imagine it. Here

32:59

I felt like if a wheelchair exists like

33:01

there were people in wheelchairs by the way

33:03

that's why I'm using this example. The wheelchair

33:05

would take up the entire walking path because

33:07

it's a golf course most

33:09

of those golfers are in little

33:12

carts anyway they're not like

33:15

using the walking path. So it

33:17

resulted in you walking on the

33:19

grass and while like that doesn't sound

33:21

bad at first because you're probably like oh why would I

33:23

would want to walk in the grass anyway because it's softer.

33:26

Like golf courses are

33:28

not very flat they're

33:31

very uneven and the amount of people you can

33:33

blame Niantic if you want I think you blame

33:36

the people but the amount of people I saw

33:38

like fall like fall or trip over like little

33:40

divots or holes in the golf course because that's

33:42

just what it was like and they weren't paying

33:45

attention it was a lot this

33:47

is like oh this

33:49

is the hole here. My left

33:51

ankle saw its life flash before its

33:53

eyes at least twice yes. Were

33:57

you were you standing next to me when

33:59

that girl with the high heels. She had a

34:01

very cute outfit by the way, but she was wearing

34:03

high heels and she like, she

34:06

got sucked into one of those holes and she went

34:08

down. And it

34:10

was... I was not. No, I heard your impassioned

34:12

retelling of the story, but I was sadly not

34:14

there. It

34:16

was one of those things too where

34:19

like it was like a silent fall,

34:21

but like the pain was very on

34:23

the face of like,

34:25

I think you, I think you sprained

34:27

your ankle. I don't, but

34:30

also maybe like, I don't want

34:32

to be like, don't wear high heels to a golf

34:34

course, but like... I mean, I like,

34:37

okay, I know fashion is important to

34:40

a lot of people, but I would say

34:42

maybe don't wear high heels to

34:44

a walking event. That's, that's all

34:46

I would say. If the side walk was bigger though.

34:49

No, but even like walking for

34:51

eight hours in high heels,

34:53

no matter what surface it on, that

34:56

sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I

34:59

hope she's okay. I'm going to take the

35:01

position of applauding this person for their courage

35:03

and their bravery to set

35:05

myself apart from you two right now. Hey,

35:09

I said she had a fantastic outfit.

35:11

I'm very concerned about her ankle. Okay,

35:20

let's, let's take a break. And then we'll, when

35:22

we come back, we'll talk about the shiny odds.

35:25

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35:27

some of these events or

35:30

like a, they, they really

35:32

cranked up the humongo button. So we'll,

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They. Hit the head big and small. Before

38:52

the last go Fast right? they did.

38:58

Not know before the last tour but I

39:00

think before it goes. Yeah they didn't have

39:02

a for Vegas but I think they introduced

39:05

after that. For whatever reason I don't think

39:07

was a bad thing. Ninety cranked up. The.

39:09

Jumbo sized. I

39:11

was wrong as December twenty two And two. We're.

39:13

December eight pm on. Did

39:16

you ever Vegas and a rumor running in

39:18

any Jimbo? So so that's when of the

39:20

first came out. but remember it was limited

39:22

to a specific species for appear to time

39:24

to. Oh yeah they launched to for pump

39:26

can be didn't they. Yeah.

39:29

Yeah and I'm like hound our was

39:31

one of their selected species for a

39:33

bit and a specific they think will

39:35

come on Formica. I

39:39

got sick so I have of up to

39:41

this point I've never transferred a jumbo pokemon

39:43

because I would. I like them and I

39:45

think they're cool. And. I was

39:47

like when then showcases existed and I was

39:49

a boy. You need the jumbo for showcases.

39:52

By. I got so many jumbo pokemon this

39:54

weekend that I I don't know what to

39:56

do now. now I feel like I have

39:58

to start storing them. Why? What?

40:01

They like didn't wake up tiny. I.

40:03

Did get tiny pokemon by saw it I got like three

40:05

four times as many jump of of man than I did

40:07

tiny. I. Think this is just

40:10

their continual ah, Being. Against

40:12

tiny pokemon right? Cause the i'm

40:14

pretty sure when it showcases were

40:16

announced they were like. Different.

40:19

Criteria: Sometimes they'll be big, sometimes they'll

40:21

be small. and we never got the

40:24

smoke. So the clearly just a tiny

40:26

pokemon. So I think that's why I

40:28

heard somebody mentioned that it might might

40:30

have been a reference to or alpha

40:33

pokemon in Ledges. Yeah. And

40:35

I was like that's a stretch but also

40:37

I like that's that's have game and now

40:39

Absolutely. And I intend for yes that was

40:42

that. Seventy minutes remember? yeah? I

40:46

definitely hit the point a few months

40:48

ago when I start transferring Jumbos. Am

40:50

and yeah this weekend was was even

40:53

worse. like I think. I.

40:55

Do. I. Don't wanna

40:57

sound like one of those people. the

40:59

says that or sinews have been devalued

41:01

cause the so common that costs know

41:03

that that they're still fun. But

41:05

I do feel like the number of

41:08

Xxl the I get lessons the excitement

41:10

of them for me. And

41:12

I'm now we the point where I'm

41:14

just keeping ones that I find particularly

41:16

interesting. So. I think for example, I

41:19

kept. Ah, I get to jumbo. At.

41:22

Groundless. Cause. I think that's a

41:24

fun one to meet and I get all of my tiny

41:26

Cassini's are always fund. Rise. So teeny

41:28

tiny. Ah, But yet, there's very

41:30

few of the jumble ones I'm keeping anymore. Yeah.

41:33

If experience of catching and Xxl pokemon

41:35

is more exciting to me than actually

41:37

keeping them like I like the animation

41:39

a lot and like I've been, Get

41:41

that. That's great Emily to the my

41:43

box than the Michael. Have got six

41:45

abuse and they're all big cable. the

41:47

smallest one can go. I guess it's

41:49

fun. Yeah. I got a

41:51

jumbo spirit two miles. Pretty hyped about it.

41:54

I didn't either. Pretty sick. I didn't get

41:56

a Chinese spirit tomb. ah but the

41:58

jumbo on made me feel better.

42:01

Did you finish all the research for it? Yeah

42:03

I did all and oh

42:06

man I think

42:08

I didn't get it. I got the spinda though for

42:10

Vegas which I feel like a lot of people didn't

42:12

get. Yeah that was the

42:15

case for me did not did not have luck with that. That's

42:17

one thing I kind of wanted to bring up here though is

42:19

that it's kind of

42:21

easy to sort of like try to compare

42:23

those two things the spinda stops in Vegas

42:25

and the spear tomb stops in LA but

42:28

they function very very differently. So

42:30

how did we how did we feel about

42:33

the spear tomb stops? I didn't get a

42:35

big chance to play City Play a lot

42:37

so I was too short of finishing that

42:39

research it still hurts me now several days

42:41

later but it was

42:43

it was kind of cool. Yeah

42:46

I think it was quite cool having

42:48

that experience

42:52

of exploring the city and coming across

42:54

one right like we found one in

42:56

Venice Beach and it's like so far

42:58

from the actual event but you're still

43:00

seeing that there I think that's that's

43:02

quite fun and I think

43:04

there were enough of them right 108 is

43:07

a pretty good number that you're going to see

43:09

quite a few of them and I think

43:11

they did there were was it four or

43:13

was it five ones in the event it's

43:15

four in the park four in

43:17

the park. I think there was one in each biome. Right

43:20

okay that makes sense and then there

43:22

were quite a few of them in downtown

43:25

Pasadena so if you didn't

43:28

explore LA a huge amount and you just stuck

43:30

to the event and downtown Pasadena you

43:32

if if you didn't manage to complete it you

43:34

certainly got close to it you certainly got most

43:36

of them. I think downtown Pasadena had six.

43:40

Well okay so that so yeah that that would have been ten

43:42

and that was completely walkable right like the

43:45

whole area is obviously huge but the actual

43:47

downtown Pasadena area was was pretty walkable and

43:49

quite nice to play in. I feel

43:51

I loved the Spirit Tomb

43:53

stuff and I think I loved it more

43:56

after I realized what they were doing. I

43:58

think like when so for those that don't know. They put 108

44:01

Spirit Tomb stops around LA,

44:04

four of them obviously in the stadium. When

44:07

Al got in on Friday, we were

44:09

with Al and then we were with Tone. We

44:11

have so much – we have limited time on the

44:13

weekend, right, because we have

44:15

to go to the park and then we

44:17

have to go to Pasadena.

44:20

We're like, how many touristy things can we do

44:23

before the event? We got to go

44:25

to Santa Monica Beach because they got to see the beach, they

44:27

got to touch the sand, they got to look at the ocean.

44:29

I don't care about any of that but I understand that's like

44:31

the touristy thing to do, right? Like, we got to go to

44:33

Santa Monica. So, we spend 45 minutes

44:35

in a car to get to Santa Monica.

44:38

We're there – we're at Santa Monica for what, like 90

44:40

minutes about and then – I got

44:43

longer than that. I don't think it

44:45

was two hours but yeah, we were there for maybe – well, okay,

44:47

maybe like two hours we were there and

44:50

then we get in a car and we drive two

44:52

hours to Disney because that was like

44:54

another thing people wanted to do. Two and a half

44:56

hours. Yeah, two and a half hours. Two and a half

44:58

hours because we left a quarter past three and we got

45:00

there a quarter to six. Two and a half hours. I

45:02

dreaded every single second of that. Being

45:05

in the car sucks but – and those

45:07

were very far apart but I was like, when else

45:09

are we going to get this many people together to

45:11

like meet up because the weekend

45:13

is going to get away from us? So, that was like the

45:15

sacrifice we had to make and there were

45:18

– anyways, there were Spiritomb stops at Santa

45:20

Monica and then they were at Disney

45:22

which makes sense because those are two popular places to

45:24

play in Pokémon Go. But I think why – when

45:26

the Spiritomb stops actually like stood out to me, it

45:30

rained on Monday. It rained

45:32

all day which is like rare

45:34

for LA to experience rain. When

45:37

I accepted that, okay, it's going to rain all day, what are

45:39

we going to do? I saw a

45:41

TikTok earlier in the week, one good thing

45:43

that TikTok is for and this TikTok person

45:46

is like, if you don't have a lot

45:48

of money, I was like perfect and you're

45:50

like, at a time limit, here's like a

45:52

good thing you can do in LA. She

45:54

was like, you want to go to Grand Market? I Was

45:57

like perfect because that's like an indoor eating place, like

45:59

it's very – The Murder Milwaukee Public Market or

46:01

and like the Seattle Public Market and stuff she's

46:03

like you wanna go to grad markets and and

46:05

across the street's I Galore train you can take

46:07

for a dollar and then down the street is

46:09

like this huge bookstores last library that you can

46:11

go to and then over here is like the

46:13

Disney Orchestra hall that you can look at than

46:16

over here that the museum and then over here

46:18

is like where they filmed five hundred Days of

46:20

Summer and you can like do that. And.

46:22

It's like. You're. Barely outside the a cure

46:24

Only outside the like. Walk from Point A

46:26

be another. This is actually perfect. Holy cow!

46:28

I can't believe I found the city! And.

46:31

The craziest thing is when I started

46:33

doing those things of like going to

46:35

Grand Market and then going to the

46:37

bookstore and than going, they were all

46:39

spirit tombs. Every single one of them

46:41

was a spirit to. And. Then I

46:43

was like i'm gonna look. At. The map

46:46

and it was just every spirit to was

46:48

like. Not. Just randomly placed they

46:50

were placed at things that were like worth

46:52

seeing or worse doing or like. You got

46:54

there. If you got somewhere and you looked

46:57

around and you are like this seems like

46:59

there would be a spear to there there.

47:01

There was. Like. They were just

47:03

so cleverly place and I'm actually surprised.

47:06

Maybe. There is I don't need or want a lot a you

47:08

tube. I'm actually surprised there's not like a you tube or of

47:10

like I'm going to go to at all in. One

47:12

hundred and eight spirits hims and I'm going to

47:14

show you what they are in. Like real because

47:16

they've been out for like three weeks. They they

47:18

existed before the event or did. But. Were

47:21

all like notable places. They were super super

47:23

cool. I am I not

47:25

makes. When you think about it,

47:27

makes perfect sense, right? Cause that's what. Ninety

47:29

actually. Say. They care about the

47:32

i sat there and people. I say I'm

47:34

getting people to explore and sometimes we forget

47:36

that and sometimes it's not as obvious and

47:38

sometimes I think they forget that. but that's

47:41

what the continually tell us that the want

47:43

to do. And. It works really

47:45

well. Because that doesn't think that

47:47

the be spent the weekend other than the

47:49

time we were actually at the event. We

47:51

spent the time being tourists and doing touristy

47:53

things and we just happened upon these. Things.

47:56

You. And forsaking speak to to the didn't really

47:58

get to city experience. My years

48:00

I picked up my lease for

48:03

more answer though as most of

48:05

us. I

48:09

mean, the smith assertive thing lends itself

48:11

to. The. Lore of spirits him

48:13

right. There's like one hundred need soul that make

48:15

a sphere. Teams are hundred a poker stops

48:17

and L A is big enough for that. Like

48:20

fits perfectly. I do wonder if those like. If

48:23

there is like a you nova

48:25

to or right. You. Are one

48:27

you would think it would be a New York. But.

48:29

That doesn't. Really? Pan out New

48:32

York in February. Maybe not the best

48:34

place to v Ls. They do it

48:36

inside like. An expo hall like

48:38

were comicon as but that would be a

48:40

little weird to the be like all inside.

48:43

And. Or know how they do that. but like. I

48:46

think the whole. We're. Going

48:48

to put notable poker ops that you should

48:50

go to to spend, but were lining that

48:52

up with touristy things I think that's super

48:54

smart and super clever. I wonder

48:56

if there's like a pokemon and jed five? They can tie that

48:58

to. To spin it

49:01

which and three made sense because like every focus

49:03

up as a different. Spin. Dot

49:05

pattern. So. That when they go

49:07

I can't I need spend a number seven

49:09

and then people would be like eyes in

49:11

the desert under the cactus. I

49:14

can think of What. You.

49:16

Know over would be I know, but I know a callous would be.

49:18

I. Think the issing the added the desire

49:20

guard said i could do that sounds like

49:23

ourselves Max yep home and that be awesome

49:25

A would they would work really well I

49:27

and it will have been what to. Do.

49:30

And a half years since he really say guard

49:32

so they would feel okay about making awesome you

49:34

guys aren't were almost like yours chinese are worthless.

49:38

And totally fine with thank you. Everybody should

49:40

have as I guards Zygotes for everybody. Yeah.

49:43

I'm not. I'm not really seeing anything in

49:45

this list that would work well. By

49:48

we'd see the is the can't figure out

49:50

a way to make it work nice. Semantically

49:52

it just do whatever right? I think we

49:54

should do that. I swear. It. doesn't

49:57

matter what it is at the end of the day

49:59

like if it's a You roll your eyes at it

50:01

because it's like, oh, this Pokémon doesn't somatically make sense for

50:03

this. I think the advantages

50:05

of what that was, the exploration and

50:07

the feeling like the whole city is

50:09

part of that, over, overways

50:12

the eye rolling of it doesn't

50:14

really, doesn't really fit it.

50:17

But yeah, I feel like the spinnest

50:19

stuff definitely lent itself the way that it was

50:21

used really well. And Vegas did not, and this

50:23

is really notable, did not have a city exploration

50:26

portion of it. It

50:28

was only the park experience. And you

50:30

could play in the city, but it

50:32

wasn't advertised as like a city experience.

50:34

There were just spawns and stuff. Whereas

50:37

in LA, they were very clearly trying to

50:39

entice you to go to certain places to

50:42

hunt down these stops. But

50:44

if you had asked me like a month ago

50:46

and pitched this idea about the 108 stops being

50:49

throughout the city, and then being at like

50:51

locations that are important in some aspect that

50:53

you would expect them to be Spiritomb stops,

50:56

I would have said, man, that sounds like

50:58

a lot of work. I don't think they'll

51:00

do that as cool of an idea as

51:02

it is. And they did anyway, right? So

51:04

who knows? I mean, they could be really

51:06

creative with the Unova tour. If

51:09

they do a Unova tour, something that was

51:11

missing from this and from last tour, but

51:13

was that Kanto and Johto, I hope comes

51:15

back, would be

51:17

that collection challenge of the entire

51:19

Pokedex. Especially since Unova

51:21

is supposed to be like a

51:23

reimagining of Kanto, like we're starting over

51:26

no Pokemon are going to be based

51:28

off other Pokemon, but we're going to

51:30

have our rock Pokemon or bat

51:33

Pokemon, our short

51:35

and Ernie sock and throw Pokemon. Yeah,

51:39

the question is, do they have Pikachu? Because it weren't in

51:41

black and white box. Would

51:43

they be with the BN because the Pikachus

51:46

and everything in gold have Pikachu wearing an

51:48

Amolga outfit? Oh, that'll be awesome. I'd be

51:50

so down for that. What? What

51:52

happened? What hat would be Pikachu wearing?

51:58

Just the wings. The other, oh, you know, the other thing. we

52:00

didn't talk about is how they like

52:02

cycled the time. But 30 minutes were

52:04

like Sinnoh and then the next 30

52:06

minutes were like Hisui. And

52:09

I thought they did that really well. And

52:11

it felt in between like cycling

52:13

every 30 minutes and then the raids of

52:16

like Diago Palkia for the first 30 and

52:18

then the horses, that's what we called them. Or

52:21

I mean they are just Diago Palkia again

52:23

for the next 30

52:26

felt like there was always something to do. And

52:29

like even if you stayed in like the

52:32

mountain to hot springs, the

52:35

spawns would change over every 30 minutes, whether

52:38

they were like hissui or not. That was

52:40

cool. That kind of felt like the bio,

52:42

the space time

52:45

distortions in Legends

52:47

Arceus. Except

52:50

they've just flipped the whole map for 30 minutes. I

52:53

think it also, it works

52:55

really well because one of the things

52:57

that we've talked about previous events is

53:00

making sure that people take care of

53:02

themselves, right? Because it's not

53:04

unusual that people will just forget

53:07

all about lunch, right? And

53:09

I think that the advantage of the way they did it

53:11

in both, it's the same

53:13

things throughout the day just split up into

53:15

half hour sections rather than, you know, if

53:17

we look at Global this

53:19

weekend, it's like this hour is different from that

53:22

hour is different from that hour. So you feel

53:24

like you have to be playing everything because you're

53:26

going to miss something and sure, it repeats itself,

53:28

but it repeats itself once. The

53:31

advantage of it being the

53:34

same each hour, just each hour split

53:36

into half. And also the fact that

53:38

I think it was probably pretty common for people to

53:41

be kind of focused more on one half hour

53:43

than the other. It allows you

53:45

to have that breather between the half hours.

53:47

So you're not constantly like, oh, there's

53:49

always that, you know, origin form

53:52

raid that we need to get. You're like, OK,

53:54

here's that half an hour. We'll

53:56

go grab lunch now and we'll come back for more

53:58

origin forms once they're back. They

54:01

had that built in with with Go Fest. I

54:03

know I can only speak to New York, but I'm pretty sure they had it

54:05

at the other Go Fest too. But

54:07

there was like a transition period between

54:10

your park time and your city time or

54:12

vice versa where they were encouraging you like,

54:14

hey, there's nothing to do here for like

54:16

an hour or whatever. Travel to

54:19

where you're going to go play next. Maybe

54:21

consider eating something. And

54:24

that was cool, I think. That's very that's being very aware of

54:26

your player base. But you're right.

54:28

Like if you're in a scenario like this where

54:30

you're a block time from nine

54:32

to five, like, you know, you're

54:34

not going to you're really not going to stop unless you're

54:36

paying attention to the time. Like you said, like every half

54:39

hour. Oh, it's at the 30.

54:41

Oh, it's 1130. Yeah, probably think that's

54:43

a good point. Yeah, that's a good

54:45

point. I think that that would probably

54:47

make people pay attention more to that.

54:49

Yeah. Yeah. This event would

54:51

have probably been bad. Like

54:54

I'm I will say safe to say I really

54:56

enjoyed this event. For me,

54:58

the the hotel and the

55:00

flight and everything that the

55:03

$50 to $70 Ubers that

55:06

I had to pay all felt worth it. But

55:09

I think that feels worth it because

55:11

they added the Hisui Pokemon. I

55:14

think if they didn't have the

55:16

Hisui Pokemon, it would have felt

55:19

very bland. Possibly. I

55:21

mean, they would. It's

55:23

likely that they would have had something else to

55:25

replace it, right? Because we we know they don't

55:27

have Arceus and they don't have Manaphy and Theon.

55:30

Like, I think if we if we're looking forward

55:32

to like, you

55:34

know, over next year, there's

55:37

going to be something else. I mean, unless you're you're

55:39

not just talking about the legends, you're talking about all

55:41

of the Hisui Pokemon. I

55:43

think I think it was just the Agapaukia that

55:45

would have also felt bad. I think having origin

55:47

form that the Agapaukia have helped better. I guess

55:50

they could have like substitute

55:52

that out for like the Lake Spirits, but I think

55:54

the Lake Spirits appearing in the wild was like really

55:56

nice and like a lot of fun. they

56:00

did the Regis even though they're gen 3

56:02

Pokemon because you technically need them to get

56:04

Regigigas they could have just put like Regigigas

56:06

and eggs. I think the only thing that would have

56:08

made the event like close to perfect I don't

56:11

think Arceus needed to be there I think

56:13

Arceus is a big enough Pokemon where you

56:15

like save it for something special but

56:18

I do think they maybe should have done like at

56:20

the end of your quest line instead of

56:23

just getting a Bidoof which was funny I

56:25

will give them that it was funny that like the

56:27

final Pokemon at the end of the quest line was

56:29

just Bidoof it should have been like here's

56:32

a hundred kilometer incubator when

56:35

you hatch this you get Manaphy or

56:37

Fiona whichever I don't remember the order

56:39

of how they appear I think it's

56:41

Manaphy. You get Manaphy first

56:44

and then if you breed with Manaphy because I

56:46

that's how they have to introduce that Pokemon right it

56:48

has to be like a huge incubator that's like

56:51

how else which is the whole premise of

56:53

that Pokemon. Or you sort

56:55

of like almost sterilize that a

56:57

whole experience you just make it like

56:59

a hatch 50 eggs task and one

57:02

of those two things feels a

57:04

lot better and I think walking a

57:06

huge egg is cool like much cooler

57:08

than hatching 50 eggs. Yeah yeah

57:10

totally yeah but that this event

57:13

definitely did run the risk of

57:15

being pretty bland and I think

57:17

whoever thought of making it flip-flop

57:19

and having that Hisui and tie-in

57:21

like that that really saved making

57:24

the spawns interesting. Now granted

57:27

there were some really awesome evolutions

57:29

out in the wild like seeing

57:31

a wild mag mortar or an

57:34

elective ire or an

57:36

Ursula Luna. Yeah

57:39

it's pretty hype but I think even if it was

57:41

just that over time that would have gotten a little

57:43

bit old so the Hisui

57:46

and flip-flop was awesome. Good

57:48

touch. I thought

57:50

the like in-person biomes were kind of

57:52

like lacking like Bubbling Meyer had this

57:54

really cool poison volcano thing

57:57

and it was probably one of their like

57:59

nicest ever to see. displays they had. And

58:01

then the ruins had, the entangled

58:03

ruins had like this Roman arch,

58:06

like just structure poles. I don't know

58:09

what the, they were just like, like

58:11

an arch. Like pillars, arch of the... Yeah,

58:14

pillars, yeah. Hot Spring had nothing at all?

58:18

Yeah. And the

58:20

seaside metropolis also had nothing. You could argue

58:22

that the stadium was in the middle of

58:24

the seaside metropolis, but that's kind

58:26

of like a... So someone

58:28

described it as feeling like a group

58:30

project where one person

58:32

goes all out and

58:34

then there's one person who, well, okay, they pass.

58:36

And then the others are just kind of hanging

58:39

on by their teeth at the edge of this

58:41

group project. They had those sweet foot bridges in

58:44

Mountain Hot Spring. What are you talking about? They

58:46

did have bridges, that's true. I can't believe they

58:48

built whole bridges just for this event. That was

58:50

nuts. They

58:53

should have filled the stadium with water for

58:55

seaside metropolis. Honestly, that

58:58

would have been cool. It's

59:00

weird because I like like the stadium, but I

59:02

didn't really like the golf course. Like the golf

59:04

course was like pretty lackluster to me. It was

59:07

fine. It's whatever. Like I

59:09

kind of... Volcano. For

59:13

it does make Vegas look like,

59:15

I don't know if

59:17

the park dropped the ball or

59:19

because they had the giant rock mountain in the middle that

59:22

then they yelled at us for climbing on. My

59:25

reception was great up there. I'll have you know.

59:29

But the cool

59:31

thing in Vegas that they did, which

59:34

kind of worked, was when Groudon

59:36

and Kyogre, which one ever won,

59:39

they like lit off like flares,

59:42

which was kind of cool. Like to be on

59:44

like in the desert, like covered in sand being

59:46

like, I still can't find the shiny nakata. And

59:49

then like look in the sky and there was

59:51

like blue flares go up and then everyone be

59:53

like, not Kyogre again. We

59:55

just want Groudon. But it was

59:57

like the premise was kind of

59:59

cool. Kind of cool. The

1:00:02

fact that it was like very reminiscent of

1:00:04

a gender reveal party was hilarious. Like,

1:00:06

Kyogre once would go up and be like, it's a boy!

1:00:10

Like, oh boy! I

1:00:12

just like that part. The

1:00:14

other cool thing they did, which I don't think

1:00:16

a lot of trainers appreciate, I feel

1:00:18

like Niantic does do cool things, but then I

1:00:21

feel like 90% of the audience either

1:00:23

just doesn't understand the cool thing they're doing

1:00:25

or they don't care. So

1:00:28

in Vegas, they

1:00:30

put like the Reggie rocks in

1:00:32

the desert and they were supposed

1:00:35

to decode something. And it

1:00:37

was really cool if you understood that the

1:00:39

decoding of Gen 3 and the Regis, it

1:00:42

was so cool, it was really clever. And

1:00:45

in LA, they

1:00:47

had a giant TV in the

1:00:50

Entangled Ruins sitting there. And

1:00:53

like I said, I don't think like 90% of

1:00:55

people who were staring at the TV understood

1:00:58

the reference. Or if they

1:01:00

did, they maybe didn't care, they just wanted

1:01:02

the code from it. But it was like, it was

1:01:04

supposed to- Yeah, part of the issue was it was

1:01:06

bugged as well. So

1:01:08

you were meant, there were two Rotom

1:01:11

researchers, one of which was a code that

1:01:13

was given online. And the other one

1:01:15

was the four stops with TVs. If you

1:01:18

spun all four of them, you got a

1:01:20

second set of research. But

1:01:22

on the Saturday, that wasn't working if you got the

1:01:24

code first. So of course, we all knew the code

1:01:26

was coming. So the first thing we did was type

1:01:28

in that code, you got the Rotom research, and

1:01:31

then you spun the four stops and nothing happened.

1:01:33

So we spent ages just standing around the TVs

1:01:35

going, what are we meant to be doing with

1:01:37

this? It was very confusing.

1:01:41

It worked for me, for the record, I did get

1:01:43

two, you guys were all saying like, oh, I didn't

1:01:45

get two for some, I got the two. So it

1:01:47

wasn't bugged for everyone. But I think the TV was

1:01:49

displaying the one that ended up

1:01:51

online. And then being there in

1:01:53

person spinning the stops was supposed to get you the second one.

1:01:57

Yeah. But I think people got

1:01:59

the first one. And then we're looking at the

1:02:01

TV being like this is how I get my second one

1:02:03

But I didn't get it I just wanted to like get

1:02:05

a good picture of the TV But I couldn't because so

1:02:07

many people were crowd around the TV trying to figure out

1:02:10

how to get their second row Tom Yeah,

1:02:13

and you also broke halfway through Saturday. So people

1:02:15

were just standing around it going it's not even

1:02:17

working anymore It was like on

1:02:19

the ground and it was like three feet tall I feel

1:02:21

like if they put it like on a stage or

1:02:23

something that would have been a little bit better or like

1:02:26

I don't know built like a little Display

1:02:29

around it and they are like prop it up a bit

1:02:31

because like in Gen

1:02:33

4 when you go into the abandoned mansion

1:02:35

in the forest You're

1:02:38

supposed to go like through multiple rooms and then the

1:02:40

one room eventually has the TV and then you interact

1:02:42

with the TV and then row Tom pops up again,

1:02:45

very cool concept seeing a

1:02:48

TV in the middle of a golf course was kind of

1:02:50

cool and then It

1:02:52

just like kind of flickering and then everyone's trying

1:02:54

to figure out what's happening. Maybe not the best

1:02:56

execution like Well,

1:02:59

and one of the TVs was was at the water station

1:03:01

at the top And

1:03:04

it wasn't like Filled out

1:03:06

like the other way wasn't in the kind of display that

1:03:08

the other ones where it was just an

1:03:10

LCD screen on The above

1:03:13

some water taps and it was going And

1:03:16

that's all it was Yeah,

1:03:19

it was that's because you wouldn't know if you

1:03:21

just looked it was right up at the top

1:03:23

So you wouldn't go there unless you were getting

1:03:25

the water because it was just it was a water

1:03:27

station That happens to have a TV and it

1:03:30

was the same thing on that the other ones had Whoever

1:03:32

thought of the TV thing or the Reggie Rock thing

1:03:34

like those whoever I'm dying take

1:03:36

they deserve a raise Like I appreciate the

1:03:38

effort and the thoughtfulness Execution

1:03:41

on the other hand could be

1:03:43

better On

1:03:45

Sunday, I believe they had people

1:03:48

there standing there on staff like

1:03:50

explaining it Because

1:03:52

I walked past the one in Entangled

1:03:54

ruins a handful of times and there was a

1:03:56

staff member just talking about it next to the

1:03:58

TV now I don't know I don't know if that's

1:04:00

because it might have still been broken or not or if

1:04:03

they were like some people need some help making connections here

1:04:05

about what this is. But either

1:04:07

way, I think they changed tactics

1:04:09

on Sunday. They

1:04:11

did have cows, cellular on wheels, they

1:04:13

had the T-Mobile, the Verizon, the AT&T.

1:04:18

The T-Mobile ones. Oh, did they?

1:04:20

The two... The two... I

1:04:23

wrote the two different ones. The tech support booth, surprisingly

1:04:26

empty. I'm sure

1:04:28

there's somebody listening to the podcast that were like,

1:04:30

I had issues. I'm sure there were a few

1:04:32

issues. But compared to a lot

1:04:34

of events, there was

1:04:37

no line at tech support, which is only a good thing.

1:04:39

They definitely overstaffed the

1:04:41

tech support tent. For

1:04:45

once, I don't think they needed to. That's

1:04:47

the way you wanted to, though. You definitely

1:04:50

want to overstaff and understaff. Yeah,

1:04:52

you know that there was somebody on that team

1:04:54

that was at Vegas last year before the gates

1:04:56

opened on Saturday. They're like, look, this

1:04:58

is what you can expect. And then throughout the day, they're like,

1:05:00

wait a minute. This is

1:05:02

wonderful. Everything's working great. It's

1:05:05

interesting though, in Vegas,

1:05:07

they literally put routers onto TVs

1:05:09

and they hung the wires. Then

1:05:13

there was none of that here. I wonder, I

1:05:15

always curious of what their decision of like, we're

1:05:17

going to build a Wi-Fi network in this park

1:05:19

versus we're just

1:05:22

going to get more cows to come out here. Maybe

1:05:26

that park was just such a dead zone

1:05:29

that the... Yeah, could it also be like,

1:05:31

was the one in Vegas, was it closer

1:05:34

to civilization? No,

1:05:38

it was like

1:05:40

the airport broke downtown

1:05:42

Vegas airport than the park.

1:05:45

So maybe they couldn't bring cows to the

1:05:47

airport. I don't think that's how it works.

1:05:50

I also think it's because like the park

1:05:52

in Vegas was a public park, but

1:05:55

the golf course is like a

1:05:57

luxury private location. So they

1:05:59

probably have more. more amenities strung throughout for service

1:06:01

like that. Because if you're like, you know,

1:06:03

a CEO of some company doing

1:06:05

a round of golf and you can't answer

1:06:08

phone calls, like that's a complaint that person

1:06:10

is probably filing, right? Right.

1:06:13

Yeah. I liked this event. It makes

1:06:15

me excited for

1:06:17

what a Gen 5 tour would

1:06:19

be like. The

1:06:22

big question is, you have a New

1:06:24

York based thing. And it's been February

1:06:26

every year. So it's

1:06:28

just February in New York doesn't work.

1:06:32

So you know, but like, Texas

1:06:34

doesn't feel well,

1:06:36

maybe it does if you're like clay. Clay

1:06:41

and Palpatine. Yeah, that that

1:06:43

feels a little weird. But then, you know,

1:06:45

when I'm thinking about like the spirit team

1:06:47

stuff and the spindest stuff and the Kyogre

1:06:49

flares and the space

1:06:51

time distortion that made these last

1:06:53

two events pretty unique and pretty

1:06:55

different. I do wonder

1:06:58

what the unique thing of

1:07:00

Unova would be. They could just go back to the

1:07:02

Kanto Johto thing, which is like fill out your Pokedex,

1:07:04

which I think is cool and I think is novel.

1:07:08

But I don't think I don't

1:07:10

think is as interesting. Like

1:07:12

I think they should still have it for sure. I do

1:07:14

enjoy clearing the Pokedex,

1:07:16

but I would assume by

1:07:18

you know, the tour, we would have black here and

1:07:20

white here. But I don't also know

1:07:22

how interesting that would be unless they have

1:07:25

their own adventure effects, which we didn't talk

1:07:27

about. The adventure effects are dope. They're so

1:07:29

cool. Yeah, I

1:07:31

do think they're cool. I think

1:07:33

for most people, they're probably too

1:07:36

expensive. I think for hardcore

1:07:41

players, you're going to get a lot of candy and we

1:07:43

did get a lot of candy raiding them on the weekend.

1:07:46

But it's not like we're going to be

1:07:48

able to regularly get a lot of the

1:07:51

Elga and Palkia candy. I

1:07:54

do wish it worked a little bit like

1:07:57

Megas where every week you could do it

1:07:59

once for I think that would

1:08:01

be a nice change to it. I

1:08:04

think that would eventually come right? Just

1:08:06

like how a Lot of things

1:08:08

were pretty restrictive and then they loosen up like

1:08:10

zygard is like really hard to get right now

1:08:13

But like eventually we all know that the hand

1:08:15

will have too many zygards at some point fingers

1:08:18

crossed. Yeah And

1:08:20

yeah, I would I would want them to do more more of

1:08:22

that sort of thing I

1:08:24

think it makes sense to do thematically ones don't

1:08:26

add up to everyone every Pokemon But I think

1:08:29

if they can think of cool things for White

1:08:32

and black cutum. I think that would be a really really

1:08:34

nice thing visually. They look really

1:08:37

really cool I think spatial rend looks awesome

1:08:39

in game. They did a great job with

1:08:41

that. I have

1:08:43

seven and a seven hundred and one

1:08:45

palkia candy and Three

1:08:48

million stardust so I think I can hit the

1:08:50

button pretty much whenever

1:08:53

I want but I also

1:08:55

have 1,500 rare

1:08:57

candy so I can

1:08:59

just turn those into the Algan palkia.

1:09:01

I've nine hundred 900

1:09:03

the other candy The

1:09:05

other the other thing we haven't talked about is masculine

1:09:09

Yeah, I totally forgot to do masculine. I

1:09:12

didn't do it at once Yeah, so I

1:09:15

think part of the problem with it is that

1:09:18

they didn't have any roots in the stadium So

1:09:21

you couldn't do it on

1:09:23

your day? In in the

1:09:26

stadium because it was only during event hours

1:09:28

as well Playing

1:09:30

in downtown Pasadena meant there was nowhere was

1:09:32

gonna forget because half the people were shouting

1:09:34

masculine all the time I

1:09:37

didn't get that experience. I wish I did it was

1:09:40

it was pretty fun It was pretty fun. I

1:09:43

will say the spawns were very good

1:09:45

in the if you did a route You

1:09:48

know kind of your usual 10 15 minute walk route

1:09:51

You would get four to five maybe

1:09:53

six masculine. So I You

1:09:57

realistically only needed to do one route to

1:09:59

get as many as many as you wanted, unless

1:10:01

you got really bad spawns for the genders, in

1:10:03

which case you did a second one. So

1:10:07

I think that was really well done. Um. There

1:10:10

was Shiny released too, right? There was.

1:10:13

Yeah, yeah, there was. Am I crazy? Did they

1:10:15

not come out and say that Baskin wasn't going

1:10:17

to be Shiny? I couldn't remember

1:10:19

them saying it at all. That's why I

1:10:21

was so surprised by it. And then the

1:10:23

Shiny is like essentially the same color too,

1:10:25

so like some screenshots really didn't do any

1:10:28

justice anyway. It's slightly

1:10:30

darker, but very slightly. Yeah.

1:10:34

But Baski Legion isn't even an option yet either,

1:10:36

so this is just like preparation.

1:10:39

And we don't know, I guess the question is, I

1:10:42

don't think we know whether we'll be able to evolve

1:10:45

the Baski-Lynn or not. This is like

1:10:47

the, this is the Sandler-Weird-Deer issue, because

1:10:49

any Sandler can evolve into Weird-Deer. And

1:10:52

like any, but not, but

1:10:55

only white StriBasko can evolve into

1:10:57

Baski-Legion, so

1:10:59

I don't. It's

1:11:02

a real all squares or rectangles situation.

1:11:04

Yeah. But not all

1:11:06

rectangles or squares. Yeah, I don't know. I

1:11:09

didn't even get to do a route. I had a couple of friends

1:11:11

trade me like two of them because I was in the park both

1:11:13

days, right? But

1:11:16

my bet is 100% that there's going to

1:11:18

be in raids. And

1:11:20

maybe they let us evolve them later.

1:11:22

OK, so I've checked on the website.

1:11:26

It doesn't say anything about Shiny. Yes or no.

1:11:29

It says, a new encounter

1:11:31

on routes, white striped masculine will appear

1:11:33

on routes during Pokémon Go Tour, Sinnoh,

1:11:35

Los Angeles. And then it

1:11:38

says, white striped masculine cannot currently evolve

1:11:40

in Pokémon Go. Currently

1:11:42

being quite a heavy word to them. A word

1:11:45

for shiny. It will be able to. Doesn't

1:11:47

mean they won't do raids first. I could

1:11:49

see them doing raids and

1:11:51

then unlocking the evolution

1:11:54

because they got to get that raid money

1:11:56

first. But I don't. It sounds like

1:11:58

they're going to enable it to evolve. Some

1:12:00

point, Surely. There. Was

1:12:02

a unofficial die thick route in Pasadena

1:12:04

that when you click on it was

1:12:06

like official my into made this ah

1:12:08

i wish I would have done that

1:12:10

or know if you did it out

1:12:12

I didn't I a i know to

1:12:14

and did it while I was walking

1:12:16

in because my hotel was like. An

1:12:19

hour's walk from Don't and Pasadena. so I was walking in

1:12:21

and to and did it while I was and than we

1:12:23

did some other stuff. But

1:12:26

yeah, To intone said that. The am

1:12:28

the enjoy doing that so. Many.

1:12:30

Was good fun. I'm and I'm pretty

1:12:32

sure there are that there was no

1:12:34

routes or anything for or sock. I'll

1:12:36

go fast. But. There was

1:12:39

an official route outside of

1:12:41

Yokohama in world's. For.

1:12:44

Whatever that was like worth, I'd literally still

1:12:46

have a route pending from Japan that I

1:12:48

made from like the train station till like

1:12:50

that cat shrine. Like. A fifteen minute

1:12:52

walk, It's. Like the walkie would have

1:12:54

taken on. You get out like you go

1:12:57

to that train station to then walk to

1:12:59

the cats are that's why you're there. So

1:13:01

I made the route from the transition, the

1:13:03

cats France still pending, still still waiting for

1:13:05

approval. It's. Yeah. I

1:13:07

believe that there were nine sick routes in

1:13:09

New York as well, so I think that

1:13:12

they're get in the habit of doing that,

1:13:14

which is nice. That's very, very cool. Spent

1:13:17

the same time like maybe a kind of takes

1:13:19

away from the spotlight of like. Part.

1:13:21

Of the motivation of making a route that's

1:13:23

good enough people like is that you can

1:13:25

speak and he recognized for it in applicant

1:13:28

Suzy who made it. So

1:13:30

I guess it kind of tix a woman away from there

1:13:32

but the same time like an official route has a spot.

1:13:35

To. In my head like? and that's neat. Because.

1:13:38

The give you something extra for it is like

1:13:40

oh hey there in this event isn't efficient route

1:13:42

and you know you get. A. Rare candy

1:13:44

in addition to your regular rewards for doing it

1:13:46

isn't the or or even something like the The

1:13:49

Good thing A By. Candidate. The

1:13:51

temporary gyms at these events as you get

1:13:53

your badges from them and the stops you

1:13:55

get your gifts from them so with both

1:13:58

of them you can have something pamina. that

1:14:00

remind you of that. Whereas with the root,

1:14:04

okay you might get a zygard cell and you'll

1:14:06

get some Basculin but those don't

1:14:08

make it clear. I mean I guess a

1:14:10

Basculin you catch will say during

1:14:13

the event so that's probably

1:14:15

the closest you get to a permanent reminder

1:14:18

of that particular thing but yeah it would be

1:14:20

nice to have an equivalent of a medal or

1:14:22

a badge sorry or a gift

1:14:27

from a root. Yeah

1:14:29

we mentioned earlier that like the adventure

1:14:31

effects for like Palkia and Diaga are

1:14:33

like more for a hardcore player that

1:14:35

like does a lot of candy has

1:14:37

lost our dust. Which

1:14:39

I think is fine. I think like

1:14:42

Niantic does need to somewhat

1:14:45

cater to hardcore players in

1:14:47

any ways. Although there is like there is like

1:14:50

a slight lower

1:14:52

barrier I guess like with

1:14:55

Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon. Not only

1:14:57

do you need like ideally

1:14:59

you want Omega like a good Primal but you

1:15:02

also need the energy but then you also have

1:15:04

to do it like 45 times to like max

1:15:06

it out and like you still need the

1:15:08

Canyon Stardust to power it up. With Diaga

1:15:10

and Palkia you just need to

1:15:12

have one with the move and you never have to power

1:15:15

it up. You never have to invest with it. It doesn't

1:15:17

matter if it's shiny or not. It doesn't matter which one

1:15:19

you click on. Like you can just click

1:15:22

the button and it works. It's almost like at

1:15:24

a certain point they should just move the button

1:15:26

outside of the Pokemon spawn because like yeah it

1:15:29

doesn't matter at that point because you just yeah

1:15:31

like it was really nice to just go like

1:15:33

I'm just gonna click my recent one and hit

1:15:35

the spatial rend and then it's gonna

1:15:37

work. On the flip side

1:15:39

though of like that being like a more hardcore feature

1:15:43

Niantic wanted people to party play

1:15:45

for this event for like I

1:15:47

think like three missions. Yeah. I

1:15:49

don't even I think was that the Reggie

1:15:51

stuff to party play for the Yes. Yes.

1:15:56

The regular Reggie is not the shadow ones. People

1:15:58

like party play. They just

1:16:00

needed to do it. They just needed to

1:16:02

like get into a party and like have

1:16:05

tasks that make sense doing and like getting

1:16:07

the decent rewards. But like I felt like

1:16:09

everyone at Disney that we hung out with,

1:16:11

we were just like making sure everyone was

1:16:14

in a party when we were

1:16:16

in the park. It was like great.

1:16:19

So yeah, so I think part of the reason

1:16:22

we were so focused on making sure that we

1:16:24

were always in a party was because we all

1:16:26

needed to get that research done. And

1:16:29

we didn't, but you know, most

1:16:31

of us were about halfway there now. I

1:16:34

don't think I've ever thought I wouldn't enjoy

1:16:37

party play. My problem is the

1:16:39

effort to go. The same reason that

1:16:41

I don't in person raid very much

1:16:44

is because you have to coordinate with

1:16:46

people. And you have to find that time

1:16:48

and you have to actually physically meet up with people. That's

1:16:51

fine. Like I'm not saying that's a problem. I

1:16:53

think it's a good thing about

1:16:55

it is that it is giving you more

1:16:57

benefits to doing that, which is what we

1:16:59

had asked Nantic to do for so long is

1:17:01

stop taking away things if you're not doing

1:17:04

in person and instead give us new stuff. And

1:17:06

that is the

1:17:09

problem is just I rarely get in the situation where

1:17:11

I'm going to do that. And it was it was

1:17:13

good fun. It was enjoyable to do. But

1:17:15

it's not it's still not something I'm going to

1:17:17

be doing regularly because I just don't have the time

1:17:20

to organize to go out and play people. And I'm

1:17:22

not saying that that's Nantic's fault. It's just

1:17:24

that. No, it's just not. How dare I not

1:17:27

think of your schedule. How

1:17:29

do they give me kids and give me a job

1:17:31

and all these things that take up my time? I

1:17:35

will say my favorite aspect of party

1:17:37

play and this was really highlighted here

1:17:39

was that because people were

1:17:41

doing raids nonstop if you really wanted to

1:17:43

if your party leader was in a raid

1:17:45

and then your task rolled over. You'd have

1:17:47

to wait for that person to be done

1:17:49

with the raid nor to pick like the

1:17:52

next challenge right or task. So I was

1:17:54

gifted the opportunity of giving

1:17:57

that person grief every time

1:17:59

and for that. very thankful because it was

1:18:01

funny. I will say

1:18:03

the other really good thing about using it at an event

1:18:05

like that. And this is particularly advice to people

1:18:07

who are going to go to it, who didn't go to this

1:18:10

event and will be going to a future one is, Party Play

1:18:12

is really great for meeting up after you've gone to the toilet.

1:18:15

Like, because you see each other on the map

1:18:17

and the event isn't big enough for it to

1:18:19

disconnect. And so you go off

1:18:21

to the toilet and then you finish and you get

1:18:24

your phone after you've washed your hands and you're like, where

1:18:26

are they? And then you just start walking towards them. You

1:18:29

can see where they are. You can see where they're moving

1:18:31

and they can see you come. You don't need to communicate.

1:18:33

It was fantastic to be able to get your

1:18:36

way back to people. That

1:18:38

and this one didn't have a time

1:18:40

limit. I could have sworn that. It

1:18:42

was eight hours. It was eight hours.

1:18:44

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was great. That

1:18:46

was a huge game changer for me.

1:18:49

Like being like, Oh yeah, we're still in a party. We're still

1:18:51

working on this one that we're taking a little bit longer on,

1:18:54

but I don't have to worry about it because we've been in

1:18:56

this party for three hours. Is this a bug? No. I

1:18:59

do think that they should, they should

1:19:01

just do that all the time. I don't,

1:19:03

I don't understand the one hour time limit

1:19:06

because especially the funny thing was they removed

1:19:08

the eight hours after outside of

1:19:10

the normal hours. So when we were at Disney,

1:19:12

it was one hour, but it was still saying

1:19:14

eight hours. So our, our party closed after an

1:19:16

hour and it said, Oh, your party has closed

1:19:19

because it only lasts eight

1:19:21

hours. And we're like, but we only just started it.

1:19:23

And it would be cool. Yeah. It

1:19:25

was very, FaceTime distortion. So I

1:19:29

am curious of like people who went to the

1:19:31

event solo. Like there are a lot of like

1:19:33

solo. Come on,

1:19:35

go players who then were like put in

1:19:37

a position to ask somebody to do party

1:19:39

play because you needed to do, I was

1:19:41

pretty, I mean, like once you were in

1:19:43

a party, it probably took like 10 minutes

1:19:45

to like run through three

1:19:47

tasks to finish it unless

1:19:50

you had like, even like

1:19:52

the, like get six steel

1:19:54

Pokemon were relatively easy. If you just went

1:19:56

to the ice, it was difficult. The ice

1:19:58

one was difficult. Yeah. No, the ice

1:20:00

one, you were supposed to catch the snowverse. Just

1:20:02

no one wanted to be in the hot springs

1:20:04

because it was bad. Also,

1:20:08

why is snowver in the hot springs? Are

1:20:10

you spoken on? Doesn't make any sense. It's

1:20:12

a mountain hot spring. He's like, I think

1:20:14

they could have, they could have helped that

1:20:16

I think by at the trainer tent, I

1:20:19

think, because quite often they have like, here's an

1:20:21

area where you can go to trade and stuff

1:20:23

like that. They could have had come here to

1:20:25

get a party. Um, and it

1:20:28

would have removed that. Social

1:20:30

anxiety. I need to find somebody cause you just go over

1:20:32

and this is the area and you go, Oh great, you're

1:20:35

looking for a party too. That's fine. You know that the people there

1:20:37

are going to want that. I think that would, that would be a

1:20:39

really good thing for them to do. Did

1:20:41

they, did they have a designated trade area? I

1:20:43

know they were handing out the pallets. I

1:20:46

don't know. I didn't really go to

1:20:48

that, the tent cause it was very busy and

1:20:50

they, for some reason were doing trivia there at

1:20:52

the same time, which

1:20:55

meant that you didn't really want to

1:20:57

go to that area to find that stuff out. I

1:20:59

think you definitely encourage trading cause people were sitting

1:21:02

down and taking a load off and just congregating

1:21:04

there and everybody had their paddles out. Um,

1:21:07

but yeah, there wasn't like there, there wasn't a designated

1:21:09

trade area and I don't think there was a designated

1:21:11

battle area either. That's kind of a go fest sort

1:21:14

of thing. Um, but

1:21:16

I guess that sort of begs the question,

1:21:18

like aren't, aren't these events getting pretty similar

1:21:20

to go fest at this point? Like identity

1:21:22

wise. I mean, it

1:21:25

used to be for Kanto and Johto, you

1:21:27

know, the collection of the entire polka deck,

1:21:29

that was very unique to tour, but like

1:21:31

this was really close to

1:21:33

feeling like a go fest really close.

1:21:35

Yeah, it was. I called

1:21:37

it, I, I continued to call it go fest

1:21:40

on accident just cause it was like, yeah, it's

1:21:42

just, yeah, go festival. Yeah. I

1:21:44

mean, is that, is that a problem? I

1:21:47

don't think so. But, but I mean, like if

1:21:49

you, if you were to ask me, what's the

1:21:52

difference between the two, I wouldn't really have a

1:21:55

robust, good answer for you anymore. For

1:21:58

me, the difference is when it is. Right. Like. it's

1:22:00

really difficult for me to organize going

1:22:03

to a different country in the summer, right?

1:22:06

Not least because I have

1:22:08

a family. The summer is generally

1:22:10

when they're out of school, so that makes

1:22:12

it more difficult. Like, there's lots of things.

1:22:14

Also it makes it more expensive generally going

1:22:16

places. It was cheaper for me to fly

1:22:19

to LA now than

1:22:21

it was for... I

1:22:23

looked at flights for New York last

1:22:25

year. That was more expensive than

1:22:28

flying to LA, which is like double

1:22:30

the flight distance. Even

1:22:33

shiny-wise, the event felt

1:22:35

very similar to Go Fest. In

1:22:39

the three days, I got like 75

1:22:41

shinies, and I

1:22:43

didn't even play the entire time. I

1:22:48

just explained on Friday, I was in the car for

1:22:51

almost four hours of the event

1:22:54

because it took that long to get from Disney

1:22:57

to whatever. That day, I think it

1:22:59

was 20 shinies. In

1:23:02

the park, I got

1:23:04

to the park at nine and I skipped the

1:23:06

line and everything because whatever content creator passed. No,

1:23:10

he's just showing off. Now, yeah, now I'm breaking.

1:23:13

Now I'm breaking. That first hour is just

1:23:15

like talking to people. We were talking

1:23:17

to Niantic and then they were like, here's a lounge

1:23:19

where you get a free banana and a free water.

1:23:22

I was like, cool. I don't care about that. I'm

1:23:24

a gatherer and that's what I needed. It was a

1:23:26

good banana for what was worth it by the way.

1:23:29

Very fresh. Then that's where I

1:23:31

met up with Chris and everything. We

1:23:33

were talking. I didn't really start

1:23:35

playing until closer to 11 on that day.

1:23:40

Then on Sunday, I did

1:23:43

half the day in the park because Niantic

1:23:45

wanted to do an interview that will probably

1:23:48

never get published because Niantic records all this

1:23:50

footage and then uses like 1% of it

1:23:52

for whatever reason. I

1:23:54

don't know if it's like sound issue or they change

1:23:56

their mind or whatever, but like did the interview played

1:23:58

with Chris? and I left, and

1:24:02

then the group wanted to go somewhere new.

1:24:06

So we were going to go to Japantown originally, and

1:24:08

I was like, I had really bad service in Japantown

1:24:11

last time, but I think it's a good place to

1:24:13

play. So it's like, well, let's go to Chinatown. So

1:24:15

when we got to Chinatown, well,

1:24:17

we didn't eat yet, so let's pick food, and

1:24:19

then there was like, oh, there's good food in

1:24:21

Koreatown. So we went to Koreatown, and we ate,

1:24:24

and then Koreatown was

1:24:26

just not a good place to play compared

1:24:29

to Japantown, which is no one's fault, but

1:24:31

you could just tell, when

1:24:33

you're in Pasadena, or when you're in Santa Monica, or

1:24:35

when you're at Disney, you could just tell that these

1:24:38

are good places to play. And there were people playing

1:24:40

in Koreatown, but at a certain

1:24:42

point, it was like, well, did we get back in the car and

1:24:44

drive another 20 minutes? Let's

1:24:46

just finish playing here. It's fine. That's

1:24:50

different than the South Korea Safari

1:24:52

Zone, because I didn't feel

1:24:54

like Shinies were as boosted, which is

1:24:56

not good or bad, but

1:24:59

it did feel like the shiny boost in

1:25:01

here was similar to Go Fest,

1:25:03

which was also similar to Vegas, which

1:25:07

didn't feel the

1:25:09

same as Kanto or Jotoutour, but

1:25:12

those weren't in-person events. Yeah,

1:25:15

that's important to remember, that they didn't have

1:25:17

that in-person portion with

1:25:19

it, but again, they

1:25:21

also, like we said three or four

1:25:23

times now, the difference of that collection

1:25:25

challenge, it's just so

1:25:27

huge. I think that is

1:25:29

the big thing, right? Because they had

1:25:32

what, four collection challenges this time, and each of

1:25:34

them was four Pokemon? If

1:25:36

you had a Go++ and you

1:25:38

were walking around 15 minutes in and you'd finished

1:25:40

it, right? Like it was

1:25:42

really not, like it wasn't a challenge,

1:25:45

it was an accident, right?

1:25:47

Whereas the, and

1:25:49

obviously it's what, as you mentioned,

1:25:51

it was different, it wasn't in-person, it was

1:25:54

also COVID, it was a weird time, but

1:25:56

the Kanto one in particular, it felt like

1:25:58

a challenge, it felt like a challenge. like

1:26:00

it was actually difficult and but also I

1:26:02

think the advantage of that is it didn't

1:26:04

feel like I'm missing out on a lot

1:26:07

if I don't finish this because the whole

1:26:09

point is it's a challenge it's a collect

1:26:11

everything and if you don't get it okay

1:26:13

there's a few rewards you miss and you

1:26:15

don't get the medal but by this point

1:26:18

in time I don't think anybody's like obsessively

1:26:20

collecting the medals because it's so hard to

1:26:22

do that I'm sure they are

1:26:24

I'm sure you're missing plenty right because you could

1:26:26

you couldn't be in New York and in Japan

1:26:28

at the same time or was

1:26:31

it Japan in London at the same time

1:26:33

at the same time yeah and so you

1:26:35

can do and we got 12 collection medals

1:26:37

over the weekend so the number is expanding

1:26:39

quite a lot and if you miss one

1:26:41

of those events that's quite a lot you

1:26:43

can't get rest assured Alan is

1:26:45

killing me 24 I was actually so happy

1:26:51

the first time they did an in-person one

1:26:53

because I was like well I don't need

1:26:55

to feel FOMO anymore right there's nothing I

1:26:57

can do about this now I will never

1:27:00

have all of them and that's okay like

1:27:04

I know that going into this weekend with

1:27:06

the world tour that the

1:27:08

biggest complaint is like the shinies aren't

1:27:11

as common or

1:27:13

they didn't they didn't crank the shiny meter I'm

1:27:15

sure it's gonna be exactly the same as what

1:27:18

do we we don't know that yet though

1:27:20

do we are people just assuming that oh I'm

1:27:23

assuming it's gonna be the same as the Hoenn

1:27:25

event last year where it was it was very

1:27:27

obvious that the world shinies

1:27:30

was not as turned up as like

1:27:32

in person Vegas but

1:27:34

this is like a debate every year of like

1:27:36

this go fest didn't feel as good as the

1:27:38

last go fest or I we think Niantic nerf

1:27:40

shinies this go fest we're like every

1:27:43

time I've talked to Niantic after a go fest

1:27:45

they're like nope it's the same as last year

1:27:47

we don't talk about shiny eyes but like we

1:27:49

didn't it's the same it's the same percentage or

1:27:51

whatever like they're like we don't change it but

1:27:54

they also didn't say like is

1:27:56

the Vegas slash

1:27:58

LA the same as of go

1:28:00

fest or is it a little bit less or is

1:28:02

it a little bit more and what is that compared

1:28:04

to a safari zone is that a little bit less

1:28:06

or that's a little bit more. Yeah.

1:28:10

I mean i like this event i

1:28:12

had seventy five i remember the. Third

1:28:15

go fest in chicago. I

1:28:19

went like the first four hours and got like one

1:28:21

shiny and then somebody had the audacity look at me

1:28:23

and they're like why are you tapping and running away

1:28:25

like yeah i know how to play this game. Do

1:28:28

you know how rng works. You're

1:28:31

getting so mad about. Yeah

1:28:36

i think it's important to remember that rng

1:28:38

has no loyalty right to anybody for sure.

1:28:42

But like at the at the same time

1:28:44

though you know game feel is an important

1:28:46

thing to take into account right so. The

1:28:50

conversation around it is fine i think it is

1:28:52

just up to us as the consumer to

1:28:55

you know really exercise our responsibility

1:28:58

to keep our expectations

1:29:00

in check and understand how the mechanics

1:29:02

work. Instead of just inventing things

1:29:04

to make us feel a little bit better and

1:29:07

drag other people down right and that's just

1:29:09

people on the internet man you know. Tone

1:29:12

who we're playing with they got four

1:29:14

perfect the algo pocky i think they

1:29:16

got two perfect the other two perfect

1:29:18

pocky i didn't get any hundred the

1:29:21

entire weekend. Not a

1:29:23

single one but also in that. They

1:29:26

didn't get a single shiny the alga so

1:29:29

it's like four perfect ones no shiny

1:29:32

ones yeah and

1:29:34

i have a bunch of shannies but literally no

1:29:36

perfect whatever. And

1:29:39

i also i think i think it's important to say.

1:29:42

Do not like there are cheaper

1:29:44

ways to get shiny. Then

1:29:47

going to an in person go

1:29:49

event right like yeah sure

1:29:51

you can get a lot of shiny probably

1:29:53

by going into the in person event. That's

1:29:57

very expensive and it's fun but. you

1:30:00

go purely for shinies, you might be disappointed. But

1:30:02

if you go for the experience and for the

1:30:04

fun, you

1:30:07

can't be disappointed then. You

1:30:09

really can. Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. You're

1:30:12

unlikely to be. Yeah, they're good to know

1:30:14

about this, Matt. Yeah, I

1:30:16

mean, even without comparing it to Vegas, I think

1:30:18

this was a stellar event. It was great. Yeah.

1:30:22

I mean, the complaints are basically just, it

1:30:24

took a while to get in. That's the main complaint

1:30:26

that people had about the event.

1:30:28

And I think they more than made up

1:30:30

for that. Yeah,

1:30:33

I think the extra, I

1:30:36

think adding on a Friday before was

1:30:39

worth it. And I think adding

1:30:41

the option for the Sunday after was worth it.

1:30:44

And then it made the like, oh, we're

1:30:46

going to be in the car for two and

1:30:48

a half hours, not feel like a panic attack.

1:30:51

Like we have all weekend. It's okay that

1:30:53

we're in the car. Like we got to

1:30:56

go to Disney eventually. We're just fighting the bullet

1:30:58

and going to Disney now. Yeah,

1:31:01

I think it

1:31:03

feels I'm not a huge fan of the fact

1:31:05

that you have to pay for the city experience

1:31:07

personally. I think

1:31:09

it feels a little bit money grabby to me.

1:31:11

It's like you've paid to get there, you've paid

1:31:14

for the event. You've even maybe

1:31:16

even paid for your raid and your egg

1:31:18

pass. But if

1:31:21

you want to actually get more of the event

1:31:23

while you're there, you have it felt a little

1:31:25

bit not great. Having said that, I

1:31:28

paid for both days, because I

1:31:30

wanted to experience that. And

1:31:32

it's not a ridiculous amount of money considering

1:31:35

everything that I like. It's basically a rounding error

1:31:37

in what I what I paid for the weekend,

1:31:40

right? But there's

1:31:42

just something about it that rubs me the wrong

1:31:44

way. Just in

1:31:46

principle. Like

1:32:00

a Lala Palooza or something like that, right?

1:32:04

Where it's a lot of people outside Sharing so that

1:32:06

they enjoy and so I suppose that the cost out

1:32:08

of pocket if you're really going to pay for all

1:32:10

of it Is pretty similar by the end of the

1:32:12

day In order to

1:32:14

attend those sorts of events But but yeah I

1:32:16

think the nickel and dime mean and that like

1:32:19

the like the line items for everything that you

1:32:21

want to do like oh Here's for hatching better.

1:32:23

Here's for rating better. Here's for another day. Like

1:32:25

that just wears on you, you know Again,

1:32:28

it's another optics thing Yeah,

1:32:30

but that's not new I suppose

1:32:32

wait till the anac starts charging for the

1:32:35

premium bathrooms like those music festivals do oh

1:32:38

Gosh, that's right There's

1:32:41

a little bit more for the fancier bathroom Yeah

1:32:44

Okay. Well, I think that's our show By

1:32:47

the time this goes up on

1:32:49

Monday the Pokemon day will be

1:32:51

the next day If Anything

1:32:55

I feel like I this this

1:32:57

program maybe compared to other programs

1:33:00

out there have really set expectations

1:33:02

in check. I Feel

1:33:06

like some parts of the internet thinks that Pokemon

1:33:08

days about to announce like 14 brand new games

1:33:11

Oh, yeah, when when game free can

1:33:13

barely make one game that works But

1:33:17

you know, we'll see And that's

1:33:19

a pocket card jockey my car is

1:33:22

so good. I'll be streaming whatever presents

1:33:26

Thing in the morning on Twitch if

1:33:28

you missed that I'll throw it up on

1:33:30

YouTube afterwards And then I'll be streaming that

1:33:32

evening in case there's any

1:33:34

I don't know just to like talk about

1:33:36

the day and how Disappointed everyone was that's probably what

1:33:39

I'm gonna be doing. It was like,

1:33:41

yep No one said that

1:33:43

these games were coming but here we are Thanks,

1:33:46

Al. Thanks Chris. Thanks for making to the end If

1:33:49

you're watching on YouTube and you need to

1:33:51

comment something comment Whether you've gone to any

1:33:53

of these events or if you would go

1:33:55

to a future event or what it would

1:33:57

take for you To go to event that'd

1:33:59

be cool I always

1:34:01

like to see what entices people to

1:34:03

finally fight the bullet like something

1:34:06

about this event enticed out to fly

1:34:08

across the world to attend. I

1:34:12

don't think it was cherubee. I

1:34:14

don't think that... No.

1:34:18

Maybe shall I... Wore my wife

1:34:20

down eventually after many years of talking about

1:34:22

it. All right. You're

1:34:25

a masculine is what you're saying. Yeah, I'm a masculine.

1:34:27

Gotcha. Gotcha. I was

1:34:30

like, look, I love routes. I

1:34:32

love Vasculine. I need to experience

1:34:34

this. Gotta go. I do. I

1:34:36

do like roots. I

1:34:38

think they are great fun once you actually have some

1:34:40

roots to walk. All

1:34:43

right. We'll probably be back later

1:34:45

this week with some Pokemon Day thoughts. Thanks for listening.

1:34:47

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