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1:50

Diana. Walsh Posada.

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let's start out with Bobby. Now

2:15

Bobby Lee. Legend. Oh

2:18

gee! comedian been around since

2:20

the Mad Tv days. Making.

2:24

Saunas. I don't know it

2:26

was it. Who. Is Every game

2:28

Characters: Kim Jong Il, Dad. Well.

2:30

As other Kim Jong, Sung

2:34

No Way. He. Does he

2:36

died not too long? I wouldn't we should

2:38

know his name be. yeah. Whoever he was

2:40

in the nineties. yeah Bobby's the makes on

2:43

am a lot and skits and they were

2:45

great. I'm. But. A

2:47

What's interesting is as Bobby is.

2:50

Got. Bigger in the podcast space and

2:52

and just with comedy because of that.

2:54

Ah all the people he knows and

2:57

goes on the podcast for of always

2:59

just kind of as a within this

3:01

talk about why isn't Bobby going on

3:03

Rogan and and Bobby? talk about a

3:05

lot Like I don't know how to

3:07

get on there was going on Joe

3:09

his said numerous times like I'd have

3:12

him a home whenever. so. They

3:14

kind ago that of the way early. He's.

3:16

Like all I can just tax you and ask

3:18

and you're like yeah, go. I. Don't

3:20

have a schedule way I on a five years

3:23

or her. Have been friends forever

3:25

but it just kind of. It Just says something

3:27

about like how sweet. Bobby. Is

3:29

like he doesn't. You. know he

3:31

doesn't presume any saying he definitely doesn't

3:34

have that kind of ego you know

3:36

oh and he's a big shot he

3:38

should go on there is just i

3:41

think he's always really looked up to

3:43

rogan as well so he just kind

3:45

of has that dynamic and it was

3:47

great to have him on he was

3:50

he was as fun as i knew

3:52

he would be who's hilarious are in

3:54

the the i hope they do it

3:57

more i thought this chemistry between them

3:59

to podcasts was actually brilliant.

4:02

Many of the comedians that have spoken to

4:04

Joe and do podcasts with him on

4:07

the regular, I think

4:09

I would tune in for Bobby's

4:11

every time. Theo is like that for

4:14

me. Anytime Theo is on Rogan,

4:16

I've got to listen to it. It's

4:19

not a chore at all. No.

4:22

No. And there's often just some ridiculous

4:24

gold that comes out of it. I

4:26

mean, for real. Bobby

4:29

was talking early on about kind of falling off

4:31

the wagon. I guess he's been on and off

4:33

sober. And

4:36

he was smoking a lot of cigarettes too, was

4:38

like coughing up blood. I don't

4:41

think it's unfair to say he does

4:43

seem like a pretty unhealthy guy all

4:45

around. Yeah. I agree. I don't

4:47

think he's drinking that much. I think the

4:49

blood is from the drinking. He says when he,

4:51

you know, when someone says, I'm

4:54

an addict, I say, okay,

4:56

cocaine, meth. I

4:59

think it's a pretty serious stuff. He's weed

5:01

and alcohol, which, and you can take those

5:03

to excess for sure. I think he took

5:05

the alcohol way over the

5:07

limit. Yeah. 24 hours a day

5:09

when he's drinking. I've known some people that got

5:12

so alcohol

5:14

icky that they were coughing up

5:16

some blood, vomiting some blood.

5:19

One of them I knew ended up passing

5:21

away as many years ago now, but

5:24

I knew him closely. And

5:27

yeah, he literally couldn't go to bed without

5:29

drinking like, you know, a freaking

5:31

two liter thing of some booze that

5:34

he bought. And he was only

5:36

a small guy. And, you know,

5:38

it's an unfair addiction in some ways

5:40

because like, obviously some

5:42

people are more susceptible to being addicted to

5:44

it. And I do think

5:46

that's relative. I don't think we all have

5:49

the same level of addiction with each type

5:51

of drug. I mean, imagine if there

5:53

was a switch where all of a sudden you were

5:55

just twice as addicted to potentially

5:57

to alcohol as you are now. Imagine

6:00

how much harder that would be for you. Like it

6:02

could get to a point where you're like, I can't

6:04

even touch it because I can't stop. That type of

6:06

thing. And my friend was

6:09

definitely that way. And what

6:11

was also kind of ironic about the

6:13

whole situation is he had the worst

6:15

hangovers always. The

6:18

worst. It's like what a- Not even one of those

6:20

guys that can just get up and get on with

6:22

it. Just powers through and you know, he

6:26

just, that's a nasty trap to me and for sure.

6:28

And he was definitely stuck in there. But

6:31

it sounds like Bobby's at the other side now. That's

6:33

a good thing. Yep, we want

6:36

that. We approve. He's so

6:38

sweet. He is. He

6:40

really is. I

6:42

mean, he's so honest too. Even talking about

6:45

that time he was detoxing from pills on

6:47

mad TV and he shit himself. And

6:52

the wardrobe had to come wipe him up? Yeah.

6:55

I mean, he's just so open. It's like he has

6:57

no shame. And I

6:59

don't even feel like he's pandering for the joke either.

7:02

He's just like, this happened. This happened to

7:04

me. Is that happened to you? Like he has no concerns

7:06

about that thing. He's

7:09

errs it all. I've listened to

7:11

his Tiger Belly podcast back when he had his

7:15

wife or his ex-wife on there. And

7:18

are they still doing that together? No. No.

7:22

Yeah. What's the name like Mikaela or something?

7:24

I don't know. There's some

7:26

wacky stuff with that bird, but I think she's doing

7:28

a different podcast now. I

7:31

don't watch a lot of the controversy videos

7:33

around YouTubers online. I just think that

7:35

it's interesting if you're a fan of

7:37

it all, but it's a bit silly.

7:40

And it's like, who's doing this? These

7:42

videos anyway. It's

7:45

like, all right guys. They clip it

7:47

for the sound bite. Right. It's

7:49

like the TMZ. They were all drumming up conspiracies

7:51

about Brendan Schaub all the time. Kind

7:55

of an area, but. He's a big target.

7:58

He really is. He's easier to pick. John

8:00

Fisher Bobby I used to see

8:02

around the comedy still a lot

8:04

when I was over there. He

8:06

was always brilliant. Always.

8:08

Brilliant and is set. It's his set. Com

8:10

is so polished, he's had it a long

8:13

time that you know that's part of it

8:15

years and put out a special with it,

8:17

but it's It's so crisp. He has a

8:19

lot of fun on stage. Ah

8:21

I'm is very playful like. Super.

8:24

kind of like. you can tell

8:26

just relax just in the moment

8:28

though. Played with a crowd a

8:30

lot which is so fun and

8:32

he hung out at the front

8:34

bar outside often. Like. You didn't

8:37

hide away in there in the back. I mean

8:39

he he would get out chat with people. are

8:41

you know I've had the chance to speak them

8:43

a couple times. And he

8:45

will bush you bulls immediately any chance he

8:47

got. He stood next to me once and

8:49

then like apple I was. And.

8:52

He was yes please refer me a new

8:54

on. It was brilliant. He so fast I

8:56

can think of anything and then I was.

8:58

Like I said earlier, I can't say I'm

9:01

trying to Bobby Bobby Fuck. Of

9:04

of any disease or they might feel bad

9:06

than you'd feel bad sunburn.gov now he he

9:08

would just come up with something better and

9:10

different. Me again I mean he's great guy

9:13

but he buddies exactly what you see you

9:15

know whenever you see this but he that

9:17

was how you always had like a goofy

9:20

t shit on walked around with the pot.

9:23

And. Years and have always looked like in a

9:25

good mood. Great. Dude man

9:27

made it was Gregory and a

9:29

further ss. Legends.

9:32

Legends kill Bali That really.

9:35

Made my week to have him on. Honestly. Ah,

9:38

trying to get Joe in. the Star Trek

9:40

I saw was an unusual angle. Is.

9:43

Like promise. Million realize that eight

9:45

diligently I got shit to do.

9:48

Take. A busy not committing

9:50

a watches if the if joe

9:52

commit to something is gonna do

9:54

it right. So easy, easy not

9:56

begun over commencing Isis the which

9:58

is reasonable and. I actually have

10:00

a lot of time my hands this week

10:03

so I watch that episode. He

10:05

was pretty good. A was. or it was

10:07

an eye on A Kind of like I liked the

10:09

Next generation. I was a fan of it. I thought

10:12

I saw more, hadn't seen this one and he was.

10:14

I was or I. I

10:16

cute it up and I was about I

10:19

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11:43

cool because it was in a sense

11:46

more like our. Kind. Of a

11:48

like a Twilight Zone than a and a

11:50

star Chacha does. He was like zapped in

11:53

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11:55

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11:57

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11:59

even. So it's kind

12:01

of like simulation theory type stuff

12:04

going on that and that was that was

12:06

what kind of made it interesting But man,

12:09

he was he was convinced that

12:11

it's the greatest thing of all

12:13

time And he could get Rogan

12:15

into into Star Trek that way.

12:17

Nice try Bobby. Nice try We'll

12:20

see. I liked You

12:23

know hearing Rogan giving Bobby some some

12:26

kind of life advice, you know,

12:28

I feel like Joe always

12:30

plays that role with people

12:33

and especially the other comedians You

12:36

know, he didn't hit him hard with like hey

12:38

You should work out and get real healthy and

12:40

do GJ. So I think that's probably a big

12:42

push with Bobby But it was nice

12:44

to hear him like all

12:46

Bobby being open to listening about Hey,

12:49

how could I improve my writing or like, you know

12:51

what I should do is get up an hour each

12:53

day and write a little bit and Joe kind of

12:56

gave his process on that and I

12:59

just feel like since Bobby got out

13:01

of the relationship that he was in for a long time

13:04

and His

13:06

stand-up is really picking up now because

13:08

he's so well known from the podcast

13:11

That he's got this audience and just a

13:14

new fire under him. He's making some good

13:16

money I Don't

13:19

know what were your thoughts it sounded like

13:22

there was a good chance. He's gonna move

13:24

to Austin but It's

13:27

not say I He's got

13:29

his shell. He likes he's got

13:31

a shell that he's got his area

13:33

of comfortability and That's

13:36

my impression is what he he probably

13:38

won't because he's real comfortable

13:41

Yeah, comfortability. I think is his drug

13:43

of choice. It might be true but

13:46

I think that he really does miss

13:49

the Energy

13:52

and the environment of what the comedy store used

13:54

to be and they haven't been able to replicate

13:56

that yet and for

13:59

these guys that might be a drug

14:01

that's too addictive to say no to. Like as

14:04

Rogan keeps making the comedy

14:07

mothership that place, I

14:09

mean, it looks like Theo's gonna be out there soon.

14:11

I mean basically what Rogan has

14:13

done is he's taken all the best elements of

14:15

the comedy store, none of

14:17

the people he didn't really care for that much,

14:20

and got everyone that

14:22

he loved chilling and hanging out with over

14:24

at his place. So it's

14:27

it's gonna be hard for those guys that enjoyed

14:29

it there to say no to it. He

14:32

should go. It's probably

14:35

the right choice for him. Yeah. And I didn't

14:37

know that and Paulie Shore is thinking about it

14:39

too, and I just

14:41

watched a thing on Sam Kinnison last

14:43

night because I didn't know all

14:46

about him that I needed to. It

14:48

was a great YouTube documentary, and

14:50

I didn't know Paulie Shore was

14:53

the son of Mitzi. Yeah. The

14:55

lady that made the whole scene

14:57

over there. Dude, it's really cool.

14:59

Like Paulie grew up there. I

15:02

did not know that. And this is a big

15:04

part of Paulie's story, and you

15:07

know, there's always just been, I don't

15:09

want to say a chip on his shoulder, but

15:11

you know, he got he was just in that

15:13

world of LA and these famous

15:15

comedians and being around them, then he

15:18

gets into the movies and his mom

15:20

wouldn't give him much stage time, was

15:23

just always like, you're not ready, you're not funny,

15:25

you're not ready, and you

15:27

know, put a lot of pressure on him. Like

15:29

if he was to get up there, it had

15:32

to be because he was good. You know, she

15:34

put pressure on everyone, but a lot

15:36

of times that turned you into gold.

15:39

And I

15:42

don't know. It's part

15:46

of why he's just like wacky upbringing

15:48

is what makes a Paulie Shore and

15:52

recently, like Joe has been saying

15:54

is like Paulie's really loosening

15:56

up. He's relaxing. He's coming into

15:59

his own and like like really

16:01

being funny and having a good time. Like

16:04

I think Polly always feels a lot of pressure when he's

16:06

at the comedy store to be good. The

16:10

scene there didn't seem like

16:12

it. There's

16:15

a piece of it that is, you

16:18

gotta have a shell to work around all those Hollywood

16:22

types, because it seems like they act a

16:25

way that doesn't reflect how they actually are.

16:27

They wanna be cool and chill,

16:30

but in reality they wanna be seen as

16:32

cool and they don't wanna be seen with

16:34

anybody who's not cool. And if you're not

16:37

part of the cultural elite in

16:39

some way, then

16:42

they won't give you the time of day.

16:44

Texas is a bit different. Yeah, yeah. I

16:47

mean, that's very much like the LA kind

16:49

of acting world environment and

16:51

it always has been, and it still

16:53

will be. The comedy store was slightly

16:55

isolated from that, but when

16:58

Polly was growing up, I mean, he was there

17:00

in the 80s and the 90s when

17:02

it was more cutthroat at the store. So

17:05

he was kind of learning that environment in

17:07

a different way. Obviously

17:09

in the 2000s, 2010 is where it was like, in

17:15

a lot of ways more recently peaking. And

17:17

that was when Rogan was there, 4-4s, like

17:19

a lot of the newer comedians

17:21

now that are big. It

17:25

was a more friendly environment because

17:28

that was like the podcast world. They were

17:30

encouraging, supporting each other. And

17:34

I don't know if Polly fully embraced

17:36

that. Obviously

17:39

I'm speaking out of time, but this is like kind of

17:41

the feel that I got. I

17:45

wonder how much she had to deal with the whole like,

17:48

oh, you want the part? Why don't you meet me in

17:50

my trailer kind of thing. I wonder

17:52

if Polly had some of that with some of those big

17:54

time producers, like the sexual unsafe

17:57

nature of all that stuff. Oh,

17:59

God. Who knows? I

18:01

mean we you know that shit was just so

18:03

rampant and so fucked up and And

18:07

probably still to some degree happening. You

18:09

know it's just there are gatekeepers Bobby

18:12

did mention that there's gatekeepers. Yeah,

18:15

they're probably just more subtle now. They're

18:17

more careful They're having you sign you

18:20

know an NDR or whatever. It's

18:22

called and Indie in

18:24

D. A. NDA that agreement

18:27

non-disclosure agreement Mm-hmm Or

18:30

just being far more careful with it,

18:32

but there's just gonna be creeps always

18:34

like just because you put more Rigorous

18:37

standards in the direction of creeps.

18:39

It's like those creeps like

18:42

power They're gonna go to power jobs, and

18:44

then they're gonna find their own clever way

18:46

to Get what they want. It's

18:48

kind of a gross world like that in in

18:51

the Hollywood e Let's

18:55

finish up with holes of power Yeah

19:00

It's always it's always the power dude.

19:03

I mean what do they say corrupts

19:05

always corrupts? That's

19:08

the power corrupts absolutely yeah,

19:11

I agree Well anyway

19:14

Bobby should move to Austin. That's my

19:16

that's my feel Let's let's

19:18

just pack that whole deck over there. I think you'd

19:20

have a great time. He could be Podcasting

19:23

with everyone obviously Santino needs to get out

19:25

there Joe thinks that He's

19:27

too much of a nerd for acting wants to

19:29

do it too much, so he won't move but

19:32

You know he can still get acting jobs and

19:35

fly back or have two homes and do it

19:37

that way I mean He's got

19:40

the money. Yeah these guys got some money

19:43

They got some money, but I loved it. I want to see you

19:45

Bobby back on I want to see

19:47

him on more and Looking

19:50

forward to it. Can't wait and

19:52

I guess he's got a movie coming up. Oh Yeah,

19:54

well he only has a small part in it. He talked about

19:56

it for a minute, but

19:59

yeah He's often popping up in

20:01

shows, dude. He's in quite a lot. He

20:04

likes to act. He represents the Asians.

20:06

Wow. They need him. Hilarious.

20:09

He's hilarious in the dictator

20:11

with Sausage Baron Cohen. I

20:14

don't remember him in that. He plays the Chinese,

20:16

uh, representative

20:19

and, uh, Oh brilliant. It's,

20:23

I gotta go back and check that out. You check

20:25

it out. I recommend the dictator. It's pretty

20:27

funny. It's a cute movie. All

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E R. That's better. H

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E L p.com/J R

21:45

E R. Um,

21:48

professor of religion

21:51

also studies the abduction

21:53

UFO phenomena. Somehow

21:56

saw like a correlation between the two,

21:58

which I think is fascinating. I'm like, ah,

22:01

what an interesting direction to take.

22:04

You would have thought that she'd be mentioning

22:07

that at the university and somebody just

22:09

steps in and goes, nah,

22:13

one or the other. What's going on

22:15

here? But I guess really those

22:17

two things are just not that controversial, right?

22:21

It would probably be more controversial as she

22:23

came out and was like, I'm not really

22:25

that woke. They're like, oh, now you've crossed

22:27

the line. If you were talking UFOs and

22:29

religion, we're into it. Are

22:33

aliens non-binary anyway? Seems

22:36

like kind of a shoe-in for this new ideology.

22:38

That's a good point. They probably are pretty woke.

22:41

They're very smooth down there. Very

22:43

smooth. Yeah, like almost

22:45

nobody has been abducted by aliens and

22:47

grown an alien with a

22:49

ginormous hog. Not

22:52

even just one guy. Never.

22:55

No. They're getting probes with some device.

22:57

It's never with a good old-fashioned organic hog.

23:02

It'd be kind of ironic

23:04

if there was an abductee

23:06

that drew it that way. That was his

23:08

total recall of the event. And

23:10

he was the only one telling the truth. Just

23:14

dismissed immediately because he just drew a giant

23:16

hog. All

23:18

I'm saying is be open to the idea.

23:21

Be open to it. You never know. You might

23:23

have one. You never know. And

23:25

technically, she was pulling on the idea

23:27

that... Well, let's talk a little bit

23:29

about Diana first. She

23:33

spoke in an interesting way. Almost

23:35

a little kind of autistic-y sounding. I don't

23:37

want to throw that on her. It's not

23:39

really fair. But she was very serious. Professor-y.

23:46

Very professor-y, but also kind of

23:48

like slightly robotic-y sounding as well.

23:53

And a lot of

23:55

passion in there. Gotta love that. But

23:58

was noticing that with the... these

24:00

religious texts, because she studied a

24:03

lot of ancient religious texts, she

24:06

was seeing parallels between stories

24:08

of more modern abductions in

24:11

UFO abduction cases. And

24:16

that's kind of fascinating to pull

24:18

together, I think. And

24:20

I wonder what that means. I mean, is

24:22

it that... What's

24:26

being said there? Like, is religion coming from UFO

24:29

abductions and UFO encounters? I mean,

24:31

they would look like gods or

24:34

angels or... I

24:37

liked the... I think

24:39

it was sort of the middle... Sort of

24:42

the end, maybe, of their podcast where

24:44

Joe is talking about the pineal gland

24:46

again, where DMT comes from,

24:49

and then all the pineal imagery

24:51

in the Catholic Church, all

24:54

the pine cones and whatnot. Pineal

24:56

meaning pine, pineal gland, we

24:58

have a pine cone shaped gland

25:01

in our brain, where the DMT

25:03

is made. So if they

25:05

realize that that is where

25:07

the DMT comes from, and

25:10

when you are on DMT, you see

25:12

all these godlike, geometrically

25:14

shaped critters, big

25:18

eyed individuals

25:21

that are cosmically associated.

25:25

And that kind of brings it right back around

25:27

to the god thing, and

25:30

the alien abduction thing. And it's

25:32

that night when we're making DMT in our bodies. So

25:35

we make DMT in our bodies, we see these godlike

25:37

images, and there's all... There's

25:39

kind of some sameness to everybody's story

25:42

in regards to what they see. Maybe

25:44

it's because they're producing more DMT at

25:47

that moment or... There

25:49

definitely seems like a lot we don't know

25:51

about this, and there

25:54

seems to be connections within

25:57

religion that... kind

26:00

of downplayed, they're not allowed to be

26:02

made, you know, like the role of

26:05

maybe psilocybin in the mushrooms and that

26:07

whole kind of area

26:09

of study and

26:12

what psychedelics meant to the early religion. I

26:14

mean, look, the Catholic Church

26:16

has been gathering up all

26:19

the ancient scrolls and information

26:21

and they've been powerful for a long time.

26:24

They still are now. They had way more

26:26

power in a sense back in the day.

26:29

I mean, hundreds of years ago, nobody could mess with them.

26:32

If they wanted something... They were the

26:34

most powerful entity. They got it, right?

26:36

They had a lot of scientists, a

26:38

lot of researchers, a lot of ability

26:40

to like gather up all

26:42

the ancient texts. So who knows

26:44

what they have in their vaults? I

26:47

bet they have things that blow the

26:49

minds of people today that have access

26:51

to it. And they're like, we can't let

26:53

this out. Look at what this one says. Yeah,

26:57

she had access to the Vatican's

27:03

Skylab, you know, astronomy

27:05

laboratory. Right. And

27:08

they put a lot of text together for them

27:10

to look at. She had free reign, but she

27:12

doesn't have free reign to the basement. Yeah.

27:15

She does not have free reign to all those controversial,

27:18

troublesome texts. Dude, they might have

27:20

a UFO down there that

27:23

they've been hiding. Have you

27:25

seen those ancient... Oh, not ancient, but

27:27

have you seen those medieval drawings where

27:29

there are people in UFOs in the

27:31

skies? Yeah, yeah, in the paintings. Yeah,

27:34

there's like two or three really famous ones. And

27:38

if you look at those

27:40

from like an outsider view, those

27:43

are astronauts. Those are... And

27:45

even in Ezekiel, they describe the

27:48

angels, and it sounds like a UFO

27:51

talking to somebody. Right. Yeah,

27:53

it's like they just decided

27:55

to not... Like

27:58

I don't know. They just were like, this is... this,

28:01

they just pass it off as nothing. They're

28:03

just like, oh, that's just part of the picture. That's an

28:05

angel. It's like 100% looks

28:07

like a flying saucer. What are you talking about?

28:10

It's aberrant data, and as humans, we take

28:13

the data we can make sense of, and

28:15

we like that, and all the data we

28:17

can't make sense of, we call

28:19

it aberrant, and that does not get

28:21

included in our equations. Well, it's easy

28:24

to gaslight people, honestly. You

28:27

know, unless you're under real cross-examination, it's

28:29

easy to gaslight people. You

28:33

can do it with anyone. You've had it

28:35

before. Your friend shows up to your house an hour and

28:37

a half late, and you just

28:39

show him on Instagram, down at the pub,

28:42

down at the bar, hanging out with some of

28:44

your other friends that maybe you're having a

28:46

falling out with, so he didn't want to mention it, and

28:48

you're just like, where were you, dude? Oh, I was just

28:50

at home. I was late. I had to run an errand.

28:54

And then you're like, dude, I saw you

28:56

at that place, and then they just lay

28:58

down some gaslighting for a few minutes, and you can't

29:00

even be bothered. That's all the

29:02

Catholic churches have to do. Exactly.

29:04

It's easier to just say, oh, yeah,

29:06

yeah, you're right. What am I thinking?

29:09

I'm crazy. Right. But

29:11

there's a bit of a clue

29:13

there, though, I think, because it looks

29:16

so much like UFOs that

29:18

some of the people there that you, I

29:20

imagine, people have had access to talk to,

29:24

but ask them. And if there wasn't

29:26

an effort to keep it quiet, a

29:29

few of those priests would be like, yeah, that is weird.

29:31

That does look a lot like a UFO. If

29:33

they weren't hiding it, they would just say, oh, it's

29:36

probably not, obviously, because I don't believe in aliens,

29:38

but that looks a lot like that. Never

29:42

happens. It's the world. It's an

29:44

interwoven priest. Let's find out. Let's

29:46

call him up. Call him up. The

29:51

this podcast and the next one is just

29:54

a lot of evidence that this world is

29:56

not boring. We have a lot to do here.

29:59

It's fun out there. It's crazy. If.

30:01

You're bored, you're not looking around and that

30:03

it. That is true. Talking. About

30:06

that Joe Manchin. Lucid dreaming a little

30:08

bit. And. How

30:10

even though it sounds fascinating.

30:12

He has had no interest. In.

30:15

The delving into what that is And I wanted

30:17

to ask if you ever had a lucid dream.

30:21

A look at us that we're I've

30:23

had some really fun dreams. Of

30:26

had some flying dreams pretty

30:28

often than on. But.

30:30

Lucid. Like where I'm the. Ah

30:32

you know are you know I? I think

30:34

I need a hot air balloon of the

30:37

stream and then it as it happens. Know

30:39

with basically Lucid is when you realize for

30:41

sure something happens and you realize you were

30:43

dreaming. And it. Does.

30:46

Something in the dream to

30:48

wear it. Kind of

30:50

snaps you into this

30:52

very strangely conscious place.

30:55

The. Way, you're not just blindly following whatever

30:57

the narrative is like we have the or

30:59

pretty much always do with dreams. You know,

31:01

no matter how weird they are, You a

31:04

guy I guess I can write a giant

31:06

rabbit to work today and you just doing

31:08

your thing. You more concerned about being late

31:10

for work and you are like how you

31:12

got there or that pigs can drive buses.

31:15

This is like things happen but when

31:17

you get lucid is very clear to

31:20

you the you're dreaming. You're not in

31:22

your regular place. And. You.

31:25

Know and then there is an element

31:27

of follows of control of manipulation of

31:29

your environment. Think

31:32

I've had the second part of that before I've had the

31:34

first part of that. When

31:36

I do realize that I'm dreaming it's generally like

31:38

Joe said i wake up the and that have

31:41

had as common with it to. That's

31:43

pretty common when people fly. In

31:46

a lucid dream, they wake themselves up. So.

31:48

There's certain. techniques

31:50

the kind of keep yourself in that

31:52

state there's a really interesting book i

31:54

had and i think it's just called

31:56

the power of lucid dreaming and it's

31:58

from written by I believe

32:01

it's a Stanford professor, I forget his

32:03

name, but he was the first person

32:05

to get a PhD in Lucid Dreaming.

32:08

So there was a science department and

32:11

like a sleep specialist studies

32:13

department that kind of designed

32:16

a PhD around his

32:18

work and then he would do studies

32:21

on people that experienced this, basically

32:24

wrote a book to help you become

32:26

Lucid. But by

32:29

reading it, and it's quite a long book,

32:31

it's pretty thick, but they

32:33

had all these different techniques in there and you actually

32:35

can train yourself. I

32:38

don't know if it works for everyone. In

32:40

the book, they claim it's a very high

32:42

rate of people that practice this, that become

32:45

able to Lucid Dream. And

32:48

for me, I had almost zero dream

32:50

recall. I still kind of do. I

32:52

very, very rarely remember my dreams. So

32:55

we're not actually good candidates. People that are like

32:57

that are not great candidates, but you can do

32:59

things that even get better at that like journaling

33:01

in the morning and eventually

33:04

you just start kicking your memory into gear

33:06

to like be able to write them down.

33:09

It's a very strange event that takes place.

33:11

And to think that's in all

33:13

of us, the capacity of all of us

33:16

to do every night is odd. It's

33:19

very strange. It must have

33:22

something to do with our chemical

33:24

composition, of course. So

33:26

maybe I've noticed my best, my

33:29

vivid dreams are in a period of

33:32

detoxing from cannabis

33:35

and alcohol. So if

33:37

I'm off those two fun ones, maybe

33:41

for a couple of days, my dreams become

33:43

credible. I've heard that. I've

33:46

heard that from people that quit weed

33:49

or do like a sober October. They

33:51

get very vivid dreams, you know, especially

33:53

if you're an eventual smoker. And

33:57

I'll not know. I Like them. I Like those

33:59

dreams. I have some

34:01

very postpones. One. In

34:03

particular, that. Is your

34:06

has He has his demons awakened when he

34:08

streaming. He lives a very nice life and

34:10

will have a loving family. but when he

34:12

goes to sleep you'd rather not dream because

34:14

it is all the bad things. Oh god

34:17

it's all the good. It's all the good

34:19

things. I'm having the best time my dreams

34:21

so I wouldn't trade him for the world.

34:23

Some people. Don't.

34:26

Wanna go to sleep? Yeah

34:28

yeah I can believe the that is

34:31

very true the few that I ever

34:33

remember and and like they're always just

34:35

weird I don't feel any sort away

34:37

and them I'm not usually very scared.

34:40

I'm vad scary dreams on it was

34:42

a kid. I'm not usually very scared,

34:44

I'm just kind of like doing some

34:46

things that are like not even that

34:48

interesting but very strange events going on

34:50

around me. And. I always feel

34:52

a little disappointed in the morning that I didn't realize

34:55

it was a dream. I'm

34:57

just like, how did I not sick

34:59

when that. Person. Had like two

35:02

heads or whatever or like people would.

35:04

I had this one one time where

35:06

people could walk off. But. These

35:09

buildings and they would just change the gravity.

35:11

Instead of walking on the top he is

35:13

walk on the side and is completely normal.

35:15

I didn't quite a thing. I was more

35:17

concerned about where I was going and I'm

35:20

like a my that clueless in regular life

35:22

like a minute. I'm just not paying attention

35:24

to what's going on. It's

35:26

kind of how makes me feel. Very.

35:29

Go. be careful out there and for dreaming.

35:33

What about those top secret meetings she went

35:35

to? Where. The blindfolded heard

35:37

over at the the desert. And

35:40

they found although that alloway metals

35:42

that. They. Couldn't identify. I never

35:44

know what to do. Those stories. You

35:47

know what we are set of. Take it for. What's.

35:50

Your litter Motivations: Look at a data. Take

35:53

the store at face value. In

35:55

there you go that there's multiple.

35:59

Instances of people. In this are

36:01

these medals and I'm in New

36:03

Mexico. And across the world there

36:05

there are some so if you if you

36:07

look at her work. Juxtaposed,

36:10

Against other people's work in the same

36:12

area you could say this is probably

36:14

with happened and is that may be

36:16

found some Metics metamaterials but surely if

36:19

somebody had a seat of metal. Like.

36:21

It always sounds like little scraps,

36:23

like tiny little beads of stuff,

36:25

but okay. you've gotta. You've got

36:27

a one foot by one foot

36:29

piece of some alloy. And.

36:33

They. Were go. He. Just take that to

36:35

some. The the top

36:37

metal L A G. Scientists

36:40

in the world and each one of them

36:42

gets to tested and then you just get

36:44

the info back and they'll I guess nobody

36:46

on this earth made this. Do. We

36:48

have that. Yeah, I

36:50

think that's probably included in her research.

36:53

Oh. What will have to get her book? Nine.

36:57

I'm. Into Combat That one. I did like

36:59

the term pencil love. Because.

37:02

Again, were always talking about how can

37:04

you keep the conspiracy, the aliens quiet.

37:06

It's. Like too big of a won over.

37:09

Too long of a time someone's gonna

37:11

come out. Really. we have like Bob

37:13

Lazard may be, a couple of other

37:15

people. Bob's. Kind of like one

37:17

of the more credible. People.

37:19

That work on. You.

37:21

Know. Kind of this reverse

37:23

engineering this stuff. but it's like

37:25

surely more documents who come out.

37:28

The. Edward Snowden even. And one of the more

37:30

disappointing things he ever said was when he

37:32

had access to all that information. He

37:35

was like One thing I did not ever

37:37

see traces of was. Talk. About

37:39

aliens. So you have those. So

37:41

the term pencils up see sang is

37:44

more or an oral tradition said they

37:46

did and write anything down. This is

37:48

how they orchestrated those meetings since day

37:51

one. Now you would wonder how that

37:53

would even be possible with. Advanced.

37:56

technology like if we try to reverse engineer

37:58

said you gotta be right some You

38:00

can't just be telling people about it.

38:03

But it does add to

38:05

the case of why it's hard

38:07

for this to be

38:09

more exposed. There's

38:12

no proof, right? It's just stories. I

38:14

guess if you're wondering how that can

38:16

be kept secret in writing,

38:19

our government has been known to kill people. It

38:21

has been known to ruin lives. It has been

38:23

known to put drugs on

38:26

people. It gaslights the country. And

38:30

it ruins individuals to be sure. So

38:32

that's one way we could keep it

38:34

quiet. Another way is not write it

38:36

down. There's also

38:38

there's I don't

38:41

trust our government. They have the

38:43

ability and the motivation

38:45

to keep this stuff secret. They're good at it.

38:48

They are. They are good at that. They're

38:51

just good at that stuff. Look

38:53

at the Druids. The Druids were only alive, I guess,

38:56

up until what

38:59

is his name? Julius Caesar, when

39:01

conquered England, right? And

39:05

the Druids were the ruling party, the

39:07

monastic ruling class. And

39:09

we have no idea what they worshipped, how

39:12

they worshipped, what they did,

39:14

their technology. Their stories were

39:16

all oral as well. Did

39:19

they build the Stonehenge? Maybe.

39:22

Yeah, the Stonehenge isn't all that old. So

39:25

yeah, they probably did build that Stonehenge. That's

39:27

just one of thousands of hinges around. That

39:30

is true. That is true. It's an impressive one.

39:32

But again, we don't know. We don't know how

39:34

they did it. So yeah,

39:37

that's a problem with oral

39:39

traditions. Write it down. Help us

39:42

out. And even now

39:44

we can write it down. They're

39:46

just changing the narrative. So who even knows how

39:48

useful that is, honestly? Also, you write

39:50

it down and you put it in a clay pot and

39:53

you put it in a cave in the Dead Sea, and

39:57

Only by accident. Good

40:00

find it, That's it. And. In the

40:02

The Vatican Steel That. Nevada.

40:05

Conceal that. And. Hide

40:07

the information cause it's. Problematic.

40:11

To. His legs. Actually there is one

40:13

of those scrolls the talks about

40:15

Jesus as a space traveler who.

40:17

Pretty good. Yeah, I don't remember.

40:19

I think it's the not doubting

40:21

Thomas scroll, but there is a

40:23

scroll where. Jesus

40:26

is a traveler from a distant land.

40:28

And damn. It's app on

40:31

My favorite Authors Christopher Hitchens talks about

40:33

that. Yeah. He's the

40:35

best! Well we.

40:37

May never know, but keep exploring. Keep asking

40:39

these questions. The truth is out there. I

40:41

like it. Gabi exposes

40:43

a good show or it may I

40:45

guess going to Saturday. Best summed wanna

40:48

one of the episodes if you might

40:50

stamps use asked Dc listener out here

40:52

as he says the a Kinder. And.

40:55

And then that was his. Let know that they

40:57

some that episode of X Files on that site

40:59

spell were those ness. Were. Those medals

41:01

or found more. You know the people the me that

41:04

show a big sans into it. And.

41:06

Elio. you know probably as more U

41:08

f O nerds love that show they

41:10

will probably sending the directors and people

41:13

are wrote episodes all sorts of stories

41:15

of they could go into. That

41:18

was a brilliant so. One. Of

41:20

favorites. Are swelling. I

41:22

want a high. She. Was

41:24

that that? that's changed? My pity, But

41:26

redheads now hooked. Airless

41:29

amp over the Mariana Vans

41:31

our wow bless this lady

41:33

and everything she does for.

41:36

Journalism. No

41:40

no you're under some a nuclear I

41:42

I couldn't imagine doing some as the

41:45

investigative journalism the he's done. It.

41:47

Just sounds so

41:49

dangerous. I

41:52

remember watching traffic when she went into the.

41:55

Jungle with the people who made

41:57

the cocaine and. you know

42:00

Even watching the show, I was just like at any

42:02

minute, they could be like, you know what? This is

42:04

probably a bad idea she's filming all this. She would

42:06

just like cut her head off. And

42:09

obviously, doesn't happen. Maybe

42:11

she's just like really good when

42:14

she's in front of these people. And

42:17

I mean she's done it

42:19

so many times now in front of these dangerous people.

42:23

But there's a reason that world

42:25

isn't out there. And they don't want it

42:27

that story told or you wouldn't imagine

42:29

they would. Oh,

42:32

it was just 20 years ago or that

42:35

those cartel, those folks were

42:38

just killing everybody. They

42:40

were the ruling party in Colombia.

42:43

And I'm sure they still rule Colombia

42:45

with money. They're

42:47

kids are now all the

42:50

parliamentary positions. No

42:52

wonder why that place is a little rough

42:54

around the edges. It can't be. It's

42:59

a shame really. But

43:02

what I liked about it, she has to

43:04

have insiders, people with inside information to get this

43:06

stuff. You've got to have

43:08

someone that can give you kind of like a foot in

43:10

the door and then give you

43:12

a bit of credibility. I

43:15

think a big part of her credibility

43:17

now seems that she's investigated so many

43:19

of these types of stories

43:21

that ultimately it's not like leading

43:24

to all of these people's arrests

43:26

and it's not shutting down

43:28

all these operations. So

43:31

if anything, that's kind of a selling

43:33

point. It's

43:35

like let people know in the

43:37

world kind of what you're up to. You don't have to put your

43:39

name on this. But how does

43:41

all this work? I mean there's

43:44

an incredible interest out there and people

43:47

like to tell their story too, even

43:49

criminals. Oh yeah. Maybe

43:52

even more so. They do it for notoriety

43:54

many times. How Else

43:57

do you get notoriety? You Tell your story.

44:00

One hundred percent. She's actually

44:02

Portuguese. Oh bless ah.

44:05

Yeah. Is Portuguese and and she's one

44:07

of the rare cute ones. Have

44:10

that's not to to say I bet is

44:12

a lot hotties and pointed out of just

44:14

i'm having a month and have a mod

44:17

one of our your own mind your own

44:19

one. I might be going f Christmas icily.

44:22

Or maybe I'll just middle see their yeah,

44:24

come on over on doing it. Mostly because

44:26

it's so difficult to get my British family

44:28

out to the you ask. His tickets are

44:30

so expensive! But. They can fly down

44:32

to Portugal pretty cheap. Flights. Fifty

44:35

bucks from England. That's.

44:37

Incredible! Yes! and I was like well.

44:39

as much as I see love England.

44:42

I. Don't want to go to have Christmas. Too

44:44

damn rainy. Ever again or

44:46

says as and I'll go there again. I don't

44:48

hate the place. it just rains a lot. While.

44:52

I think I need to go there. I need

44:54

to explore my ancestral roots capital land The hell

44:56

are you? got? a bit of a Portuguese and

44:58

New. Oh no, England's

45:00

Oh. Amen to that. Makes more sense.

45:04

And. Makes more sense. Yep!

45:06

Get over that. Come with us. But.

45:09

Some oh so many of the

45:11

U S mine. so I guess.

45:13

She. Was saying that us he's a

45:16

control lot of mines in the

45:18

world for all the rare earth minerals

45:20

that now we're using from everything

45:22

from smartphones, the an electric cars and

45:24

on a wrestler probably making computers

45:26

and you know everything as he's and

45:29

for but we soul the lot of

45:31

them to china. and

45:33

that choice fab move well i've got

45:36

of money laying know it got a

45:38

feeling that we did it because of

45:40

the mining practices involved that we didn't

45:42

wanna be super tied to his as

45:45

like eminem makes sense like the kobo

45:47

mining for example there's like a bit

45:49

of a slavery aspect to this i

45:52

say a bit a one i mean

45:54

a lot of one and then if

45:56

we can remove ourselves i say we

45:59

that the us government can

46:01

remove themselves from a

46:03

few steps, you know, to

46:05

where it's getting mined, shipped

46:07

off to somewhere, processed, turned into

46:10

blocks, and then we buy it,

46:13

we don't look as bad. But

46:15

ultimately, I

46:18

mean, can you really say that though? Especially

46:20

if you know all the way down to the

46:22

mine part. But

46:24

this is what it seems like. So ultimately,

46:27

she's saying, what does that mean for us

46:29

now? Like these rare earth minerals are mostly

46:31

in the hands of China. We

46:34

need a lot of them. I mean, I don't

46:37

know. If they decide to just be like,

46:39

you're not having any. I

46:41

don't know if they can afford to say things like that

46:43

to us, but maybe one

46:45

day. I mean,

46:47

why wouldn't they they would just lose a part of

46:49

their income, they could still sell

46:51

to every other country. I've got

46:54

a feeling though that the US is like

46:56

the biggest buyer of goods and services in

46:58

the world. Oh yeah, totally. Most

47:01

countries wouldn't be able to afford to not do

47:03

business with us. I mean, we're like in the

47:05

middle of funding Ukraine

47:08

and paying for to like

47:12

fight against them, the Russians,

47:15

and I'm pretty sure we're still buying that oil the

47:17

whole time. The

47:20

oil, Russian oil? Yeah.

47:23

We have no business choosing

47:26

the higher ground on that one. We are.

47:30

Our hands are covered in blood money. It's slippery

47:32

though. If you look at it, if you look

47:34

at nations like a corporation,

47:37

right? Because basically it's kind of the

47:39

same thing. You could almost look at religions

47:41

that way. I mean, America is the US

47:45

government is the largest corporation that

47:47

ever came into existence. The

47:49

biggest company that ever existed. How

47:52

could you even get there without doing

47:55

some shady shit? You've just got your

47:57

hands in too many pies. I'm not giving it an

47:59

answer. Excuse, but it's just

48:01

inevitable Um

48:08

Any answer I need an answer right

48:10

now. I can't fix it. I need

48:12

to know You represent

48:14

the country goddamn Pete. You're a terrible ambassador.

48:16

I'll tell you that much I'll

48:19

be an ambassador like you're a glee That's

48:21

not one of those

48:23

countries. They just have skiing and no war

48:26

like what is it Switzerland? I Guess

48:29

what Italy? They

48:31

have Alps. I think the Swedes

48:33

are not big into war. They've

48:36

been pretty neutral forever Yeah,

48:38

and like Canada they're protected by the

48:41

larger powers Mm-hmm for to be they can

48:43

afford to be as left as they want

48:46

the super world Because

48:48

they got they got strong arms

48:50

protecting them bless But

48:52

Joe Joe mentions about

48:55

how he doesn't like gold. Why why do

48:57

we love gold so much as a world?

49:00

It has always been a commodity and

49:03

a currency. Yeah. Well it back until

49:06

the Mayan times way before It's

49:09

not the most expensive metal though, right? Isn't

49:11

like platinum more expensive.

49:14

So gold There

49:17

are there are I think six

49:19

metals that But

49:22

do not like degrade and they are very Stable.

49:26

Mm-hmm that and we use

49:29

those for currency gold silver platinum

49:31

rhodium palladium bronze and no

49:34

Bronze doesn't corrode either but it is also a

49:37

month bronze crores But it is not considered

49:39

a currency because it's the nature of the

49:42

atoms the metal Gold is

49:44

bronze the third medal of the

49:46

Olympics. Okay, I rest my case

49:48

I So

49:50

one it's the one that uh That

49:53

you that you're still proud about getting but you

49:55

don't have on your mantle We just yeah a

49:58

bit sad about it unless unless you were

50:00

coming in seventh place and then you're like

50:02

hey not bad right? Nobody

50:05

feel that coming? Yeah

50:07

I mean gold is well and it's

50:09

because of it has very unique properties

50:12

I know that so for like circuit

50:15

boards and things like you really can't

50:17

use any other type of metal like

50:19

it's very useful mechanically for a lot

50:21

of things and

50:24

and it's very finite until

50:26

they find a way like we can make gold

50:29

but we have to put so much energy into it that it's

50:32

that it costs more but

50:34

if we ever came up with yeah

50:36

we can do legitimate alchemy now we

50:38

can make all of the elements out

50:40

of different elements it's just more

50:42

expensive than it would be to just purchase

50:45

the elements so

50:48

that would completely

50:50

destroy the gold market though if ever

50:52

we came up with a power system

50:54

that was just so much power for

50:57

so cheap because all they would do

50:59

is just make machines that can make

51:01

gold until

51:03

the gold was then worthless and then which

51:07

is what diamonds are essentially worthless we can

51:09

make diamonds now but it is just so

51:11

such a part of our culture we like

51:13

diamonds for beauty and

51:16

lasting that was

51:18

to buy them but we can make

51:21

jewelry grade diamonds in a lab in

51:24

a short amount of time yeah Joe

51:26

was talking about that he was saying

51:28

to Mariana that

51:30

yeah we can do that people still

51:32

like the the ones from

51:34

the earth though they feel like the

51:36

the synthetic ones aren't

51:39

you know as there isn't

51:41

like a romantic but that's that's all

51:44

that's all fucking do bears you

51:47

know propaganda and marketing those Dutch sons

51:49

of bitches only two things that are

51:51

like in this world people

51:54

who are insensitive of other people's cultures and

51:56

the Dutch Can't

52:01

argue with that. There's a chemical reason why

52:03

gold is so popular. And

52:08

you ask a chemist and they'll tell you. They

52:10

are the noble metals, the metallic

52:12

element that resist oxidation, corrosion, and

52:15

even at high temperatures. That's why we need it and like

52:17

it so much. It's pretty good. But

52:20

they are just not that much of

52:22

it. Let me read you these ones. Oh, go

52:24

ahead. Rethinium, rhodium,

52:26

palladium, silver, osmium,

52:29

iridium, platinum, and gold.

52:32

Those are the expensive ones? Those are

52:34

the ones that are integral for

52:37

processing in our computers. Moisture

52:40

will... You can't have silver even

52:42

though it's a great conductor because it oxidizes

52:44

at the top of a hat. Oh, yeah. Gold,

52:47

platinum, rhodium, they

52:50

don't oxidize. Okay. And

52:52

then you don't really want like the rings and things

52:54

and never 24 carat, right, which

52:57

is the most carats. That's like the purest

52:59

because gold starts to get a bit soft.

53:01

So you want to add some other things.

53:03

It wears away. It wears away

53:05

quite rapidly. Malleable. Even

53:09

silver is really malleable unless it's alloyed. Well, here's

53:11

a fun fact. You know

53:13

the coins have those little lines on the

53:15

outside all the way around? Uh-huh. And

53:18

they were there because originally coins were

53:20

gold coins or silver coins and people

53:23

would shave them and

53:25

just take little bits of gold and

53:27

silver off the coins they had, you

53:29

know, then spend the coins, but eventually

53:31

be collecting up gold and silver.

53:35

You have enough coins passed through your business or

53:37

whatever. You could probably collect a

53:39

decent amount, but the coins were getting smaller.

53:41

So they had to put those lines on

53:43

to be like if somebody shaved this coin.

53:46

And we keep it today because it's just part of the design, I

53:48

guess. Yeah, it's decoration. Any

53:51

decoration on a coin is for the

53:53

same purpose. And thank

53:55

goodness they did that because we can

53:57

now date funerals, shipwrecks. No

54:00

kinds of cool stuff, archeology with that. Yeah.

54:03

Yeah, I'd like to find a shipwreck. I

54:05

wonder how much gold has

54:08

been sunk in

54:10

shipwrecks. Tons, tons and tons and tons. Especially

54:14

from the rape of South

54:16

America by the Spanish. Maybe

54:19

that's part of Elon's plan with all these satellites.

54:22

He's like, yeah, I'm just making internet, really

54:24

just scanning for shipwrecks. He's

54:27

just a pirate. He's actually a pirate. He's a

54:29

pirate lover. He read a couple of books and

54:31

he's like, I'm pretty rich. I could do this.

54:33

I could find all that shit. Pirate

54:35

lover, similar but different

54:37

from pirate hooker. That's a good point.

54:41

Yeah. It's an important distinction. Let's

54:43

jump over to black market stuff. This is what

54:45

kind of blew my mind on that. They said

54:47

half of all money is either black

54:50

market or gray money. Black

54:53

or gray money. Gray money is not as

54:56

horrible sounding as you

54:59

would think. It's just mostly like cash

55:01

exchanges. Under the table. Basically.

55:06

Black market is not good. Mostly

55:09

legal stuff. But that's half of the world's

55:11

economy. So imagine how powerful that is.

55:14

It's like with all the things that

55:16

we have, the IRS, the legal system,

55:18

like FBI investigative

55:20

services, half of the

55:22

economy is still completely

55:26

illegal and out of their grasp. So

55:30

that's a power struggle. Money is

55:32

like the thing that drives it all. So

55:35

there's a lot of power on the back end of

55:37

this. Have

55:39

you heard about the thing where

55:41

our currency in the United States, our

55:44

paper money, more than half of it

55:46

is not in the United States? It's

55:49

used as other countries' reserve

55:52

stock of money. People

55:56

hoard $100 bills. in

56:00

other countries because the US dollar

56:02

is relatively more stable than

56:04

whatever they have. That's

56:07

the thing that happens. That could make sense.

56:10

How often are you yourself

56:13

dealing with paper money? I

56:15

don't do it that much. I'll

56:18

probably keep a couple of hundred bucks around

56:21

my house, maybe a 20 in my car for

56:24

times when you go somewhere and they

56:26

don't have, maybe you can't use

56:28

a car. It just doesn't come up that much. A

56:31

tip. That's

56:33

the only reason I have any cash is I

56:36

like to throw a cash tip down. But

56:39

it's never a hundred. The

56:42

amount of hundred dollar bills made does

56:44

not reflect how there are amount of hundred

56:47

dollar bills in our circulation. Because

56:49

they're in foreign countries. I

56:53

would be interested to look at how

56:55

much am I spending percentage wise as

56:57

paper money compared to just

57:00

debit credit cards. But

57:03

it's probably less than 5%, I

57:06

would imagine. Same here. Yeah, you're

57:08

not paying your rent

57:10

with a bunch of hundreds.

57:13

I think if you went to do it, they'd look

57:15

at you funny. They'd be like, what anymore? Not anymore.

57:17

What does this guy do for work? Not

57:20

since I went above the board. I'm on the books, you

57:22

know? Oh, you're on the books now, are you? I'm

57:25

on the books now. Well, also you

57:27

can buy a lot of exotic animals, which is

57:29

kind of fucked up. You buy a gorilla for

57:31

half a million. I don't know why anyone

57:34

would take that on. I feel like they would eat

57:36

so much that would be just a

57:38

very expensive thing to have.

57:41

You got to get two. They're going to get lonely. How

57:43

fun are they anyway? I

57:46

would be too scared of it to have any fun with it. It

57:49

might be cool to teach them sign language. I

57:52

would have it teach me gorilla style jujitsu. Well,

57:56

I don't know. It's like one

57:58

year old, dude. They could just pull you in. have

58:00

probably Maybe to

58:02

that legends say that's how kabibi got so good.

58:05

Oh, no, it was a bear That was a

58:07

bear wasn't it and his name is hubby, dude

58:10

Can't be be hub hubby be that's

58:12

a that's a different thing isn't it?

58:14

That's don't know wrong

58:17

copy mm-hmm, and then I guess

58:20

um She was saying one

58:22

of the areas where you can get like chimps from so

58:24

they they Sell chimps to

58:26

and people in Africa will send out

58:29

the pygmies because they're

58:32

often displaced from their home and

58:34

put in pretty bad positions Situations and

58:36

kind of force to go get chimps. They end

58:38

up killing a lot of the chimps to get

58:40

a baby chimp and Shout

58:43

out to to my man Justin Ren for a

58:45

fight for the forgotten That's the

58:47

charity that this podcast gives to

58:49

so thanks for everyone listening so

58:51

we can support this and so

58:53

we can give the pygmies a better life and You

58:57

know the two reasons we went with that on the

58:59

show one Justin Ren seems like the

59:02

nicest guy in the world and Joe is always said

59:04

that he's the best I've talked

59:06

to him on a zoom call one

59:08

time because we've been part of the charity and

59:11

he really is just such a sweetheart but

59:13

also because And I

59:15

understand what he gives to them. They are Really

59:18

like the poorest people on the planet And

59:21

if you're thinking about giving and there's a lot

59:23

of great charities, don't get me wrong You can

59:26

do a lot of things you donate clothes and

59:28

go to a homeless shelter and a soup kitchen

59:30

And but I just felt like go

59:32

to the poorest people and when

59:34

you hear that they're being sent off the Kidnapped

59:37

chimp babies. It's like

59:39

these guys are having a rough time No,

59:43

I'm glad that we do that with this

59:45

with that particular charity because we know where

59:47

the money is going for sure Too

59:50

too often with these companies they're owned

59:52

by somebody and the money does not

59:54

go where you're putting it Like if

59:56

you're given to Gaza right now, which

59:58

is awesome that

1:00:00

money ends up in Qatar more times than

1:00:03

it gets to the people. Well maybe

1:00:05

in Hamas hands and yeah it's definitely

1:00:07

worth looking into the charities you

1:00:10

know and knowing where the money is going and

1:00:13

and I will 100% vouch. I know a

1:00:16

bunch of people that work for Fight for the Forgotten

1:00:19

and they are just

1:00:21

wonderful people and

1:00:24

we're proud to be able to do that

1:00:26

so yeah God bless

1:00:28

them. Let's end up with the sex

1:00:31

exploitation stuff where

1:00:34

they I guess when

1:00:37

Mariana looked into this there were a bunch

1:00:39

of people in the Philippines that

1:00:42

were would connect to people

1:00:44

often in the US online send

1:00:47

them nudes get nudes back and then

1:00:49

kind of hack their accounts and threatened

1:00:51

to send all of this information out

1:00:53

if they didn't give them money and

1:00:57

sadly you could imagine that's

1:01:00

ruining lives so please

1:01:02

don't fall for that if anyone contacts you that

1:01:04

you don't know that's a bad move and

1:01:07

you know some of these people are committing

1:01:09

suicide and that's brutal. Some

1:01:13

of the I guess the victims of

1:01:15

this exploitation the

1:01:17

people think they're getting partners but reality

1:01:19

they're just giving away blackmail material. Those

1:01:22

are the people that are killing themselves. Yes. Oh

1:01:25

yeah that's keep it. Keep

1:01:28

it secret keep it safe. That's what I say when it

1:01:30

comes to your what's in your pants.

1:01:32

Yeah. That's horrific to hear

1:01:35

and you know, thank God people like her

1:01:37

are out there kind of exposing that

1:01:39

along the same lines Joe brought up something to

1:01:42

her that she wasn't really aware of. So many

1:01:45

of you are familiar with the body exhibit

1:01:47

which is been around now.

1:01:50

I don't know how long 20 years maybe

1:01:52

longer and it's that exhibit

1:01:55

where it shows all the

1:01:58

veins and capillaries nerve

1:02:00

parts of human beings, all the muscles,

1:02:02

and they're doing different things, playing basketball,

1:02:04

tennis, and moving around or they split

1:02:07

the head up. It's pretty gruesome looking,

1:02:09

but... Yeah, it is gross. Back in the

1:02:12

day when we would go to it, it

1:02:14

was like, oh, this is science and art

1:02:16

together, and these people gave their body for

1:02:18

science. So, yeah,

1:02:20

it's like, proposition

1:02:22

to you is not quite as ill,

1:02:25

not tempered, but

1:02:29

just ill-got, just fucked up, as it

1:02:31

turns out to be. And

1:02:33

with a little bit of investigation,

1:02:36

turns out that there's a good chance,

1:02:39

allegedly, that these bodies came

1:02:41

from political prisoners in

1:02:43

either Russia or China, mostly

1:02:46

China. Oh my gosh.

1:02:48

Yeah, because the process of these

1:02:50

things is they need to be, you need

1:02:53

to have the body within like 48 hours. So

1:02:56

if you think about it, if it

1:02:58

was a volunteered stuff, you gotta move fast

1:03:00

to get that done. If it's just like

1:03:02

you're a donor, you pass away,

1:03:05

they gotta get moving quick. Now,

1:03:08

if you get to just kill these people, you

1:03:11

can have it set up immediately.

1:03:14

And that makes... You drop the pain, yeah.

1:03:16

That makes the potential for this thing so

1:03:18

much more gruesome, and the fact that if

1:03:20

there's any truth to this, that

1:03:22

needs to be looked at immediately

1:03:25

with scrutiny, and those things need

1:03:27

to be stopped, because

1:03:29

that's a horror testing. DNA testing on those bodies. We

1:03:31

need to get in their bone marrow and figure out

1:03:33

who they were. Right. DNA

1:03:35

testing. Yeah. Then we

1:03:37

can get genetic groups, we can say, oh,

1:03:40

these are caucus people, or these are Chinese

1:03:43

Muslims, or

1:03:46

Indian street urchins, or... Joe

1:03:49

mentioned, I'm not sure he went into

1:03:52

it in this podcast, but he

1:03:54

has talked about one woman who

1:03:56

ran afoul of another woman, and

1:03:58

this woman was pregnant. And

1:04:01

so she disappeared and then

1:04:03

weeks later a woman

1:04:06

of similar stature with a similar term

1:04:08

fetus was found in one of these

1:04:10

body exhibits. Do you remember this? Well,

1:04:13

he spoke about that in the past, but he

1:04:15

also mentioned this at the end of the Mariana

1:04:17

one. And he has talked

1:04:19

about this in the past. So it

1:04:21

was some sort of mayor or governor

1:04:23

of a place in China who

1:04:26

was having an affair with some reporter who

1:04:28

got her pregnant. The wife

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found out who ran the

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exhibit or the company

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that makes the bodies, which is even

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like we're talking like close ties here.

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And all of a sudden that lady went missing

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and this pregnant person popped up in

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the exhibit. Now, that is one

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of the most horrifying acts

1:04:50

of revenge I've ever heard of in my life

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because she will last forever now.

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That's just the fact on that is

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it doesn't break my brain

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that humans are

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that apathetic to someone who's not them.

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Yeah, that's like a twisted Twilight

1:05:10

Zone right there. And it's a

1:05:12

lot to think about. It's a

1:05:14

lot to think about. I

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mean, hey, who knows? Maybe Mariana

1:05:18

would do an investigative bit

1:05:22

of journalism into body

1:05:24

exhibit. That would be amazing because

1:05:27

she could delve right in there, man, and get some info

1:05:29

or end up in the exhibit, which

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we would hope not. It depends

1:05:34

how powerful they are. I don't

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know. Like I said, you have to get

1:05:38

insiders. And I don't know if

1:05:40

insiders want to stick their neck out like

1:05:42

that. Yeah, who

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knows? A bit of a gruesome one. I

1:05:47

mean, look, it's worrying to hear what she

1:05:49

talks about. I don't

1:05:52

know if it takes away from my hope

1:05:54

in humanity. I don't think so. It's just

1:05:56

interesting to hear about, and it's great to

1:05:58

have access to people. people that have looked into

1:06:01

these things. It kind of

1:06:03

highlights some potential conspiracy

1:06:05

theory ideas that we just,

1:06:08

you know, regular media doesn't talk about,

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but it's important stuff. I'm glad she does

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it. I'm glad she exists. And

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it's great that he has her on.

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What's her TV show again? It's called Traffic. It's

1:06:21

still going on, of course. Yeah, I think they

1:06:23

have a new season now. I have one. She's

1:06:26

filming in Africa. Okay. I'll take that.

1:06:28

I'll give that a look. She seems the

1:06:30

real deal. Oh, she's the real deal. All

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right. Anyway, that's it for this week. Appreciate

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it so much. Pete, thanks as always, and

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thank you all of the listeners for tuning

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in. We will speak to you next week.