0:22

Hey Ben, how are you today?

0:24

I'm doing well, Gene. It's

0:26

Father's Day.

0:27

Yes, happy Father's Day.

0:29

Thank you. I would say

0:31

Happy Father's Day to you, but

0:33

I'm not a father, so it wouldn't be correct.

0:35

that you know of.

0:37

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Pretty

0:39

sure. You know how I know that? Because

0:41

I'm not paying alimony.

0:43

You know, you say that, but,

0:45

man I don't know. There've been some crazy

0:48

people over the years.

0:49

Yeah yeah,

0:52

But

0:52

that's true. And I do know my ex

0:54

wife did have a kid in less

0:57

than nine months after we got divorced. But

0:59

you know, I think that's probably a good

1:01

reason to get divorced.

1:02

That would be. I didn't know that, but

1:04

thanks for sharing.

1:05

Yeah. But

1:08

that's a long time now.

1:10

I've been divorced way longer than I was married,

1:12

so. Anyway, so I'm back.

1:15

Yeah, how was Mexico?

1:17

Mexico, I mean, the Seattle was great,

1:19

had a good time, you know, all the

1:22

great warm weather out there. It was a

1:24

good time. Yeah, it was it was a good trip

1:26

there was just a little bit of

1:29

Typical Seattle craziness going

1:31

on downtown my last day there, but other

1:33

than that, it was pretty good.

1:36

oh man.

1:37

How was your trip?

1:38

Which one?

1:39

I don't know, I think we were both on trips, I thought, this time.

1:42

Last weekend. I was

1:44

a while before. I was on a trip, but this

1:46

trip that was supposed to happen today got cancelled.

1:49

Oh, yeah, no, I meant the last trip.

1:51

To D. C.? Oh, that's fine. Yeah, it

1:53

was good. It You know, it's D. C., so

1:55

it's always

1:57

a pain in the rear, but

1:59

Yeah, these days, not a whole lot of difference between D.

2:01

C. and Seattle.

2:02

My you know, I was in the yuppie

2:04

parts, I was in the Alexandria area

2:07

I actually stayed near Andrews

2:10

you know, so I was in the nicer part of

2:12

would.

2:12

Heh, fuckin A. But conference

2:15

was good, saw a lot of good people there,

2:18

Some old colleagues, you know, it's

2:20

a small industry, so.

2:21

Yeah. Yeah. Niche, for sure. The

2:24

last time I was in D. C., I think, was for

2:26

ShmooCon, probably like six

2:29

or seven years ago.

2:31

Yeah, the getting out of D. C.

2:33

was a pain in the rear because we had thunderstorms

2:35

in Houston and D. C. So my

2:37

flight got delayed

2:39

my God. Man made global weather.

2:41

Yeah. Speaking of, man, it looks

2:43

like we might have a June hurricane

2:45

in the Gulf.

2:46

Is there one cranking up?

2:48

Not yet, but there's a significant enough

2:50

depression right off of Mexico

2:52

where you just were that, you know, it might

2:54

kick up and we got to wait and see, but,

2:57

you know, I, this reminds

2:59

me of when Alicia hit back,

3:02

you know, hell before I was

3:05

born in 83,

3:07

because Alicia was

3:09

a early hurricane. It

3:11

was August though. But it

3:13

started in the gulf right off of the right

3:15

off the peninsula there in Mexico

3:18

and just,

3:19

That Yucatan?

3:21

yeah, they thought it was going to be, you know, a

3:23

category 1 ended up being a category

3:26

3 and a pretty damaging storm to Galveston.

3:28

So we'll see.

3:30

Yeah. Yeah, I think that dumped a lot

3:33

of water.

3:35

Next weekend going to Galveston

3:38

for a day, taking the kids and

3:40

staying at the Hotel Galvez, man,

3:42

that thing's been there since, like, 1911.

3:45

I'm sure I've driven by it. I don't

3:47

think I've ever stopped there.

3:49

Marriott bought it a couple years ago

3:51

and has made it one of their, you know,

3:53

tribute collection, whatever, hotels,

3:55

so they've really changed it

3:58

around. I had to play the titanium

4:00

card for the first time.

4:02

Ooh

4:03

yeah, the,

4:04

So kick somebody out.

4:05

It, what it was I was trying to book for

4:07

one night. And

4:10

it was gonna let me, and then all

4:12

of a sudden it wasn't, and it's like,

4:14

you'll let me book from Friday to Sunday,

4:16

but I don't need Friday, I just need Saturday to Sunday,

4:18

you clearly have the rooms, make it happen.

4:20

Yeah, it wasn't kicking someone out, it wasn't

4:23

that big of a dick move, but, you

4:25

know. It was a,

4:27

you will make this work for me.

4:29

Yeah. Yeah. The

4:32

most notable time that I had to

4:34

kick somebody out was during

4:35

SpaceX.

4:36

No, it was during, no, actually I

4:38

don't, I didn't have to at that point, but

4:40

the Marriott's location sucks down

4:42

there. It's way too far from SpaceX. No,

4:45

it was during the San Diego

4:47

comic con and I was

4:49

in San Diego for work

4:51

Ah,

4:52

everything was booked up and I'm like,

4:54

you know, I'm doing

4:56

business here, and I'm out. Now,

4:59

the one thing I will say is when you use that,

5:01

when you kick somebody out, and for people

5:03

who don't know, one of the privileges you get as

5:05

being a top tier guy with Marriott

5:08

is you get priority in

5:10

your rooms, which means somebody who's not,

5:13

Even if they booked their reservation

5:16

will end up getting canceled. And it's not

5:18

that bad. They actually will typically, Marriott

5:21

will just pay to have them stay in a different

5:23

hotel. However, when

5:25

you use that privilege for Marriott,

5:27

you pay the

5:30

top tier room rate, you're not getting

5:32

any discounts. So

5:35

if you need a hotel room bad enough,

5:38

it's guaranteed you will always have

5:40

a room at a Marriott, but you may

5:42

pay rack rate.

5:44

yeah, they're again, luckily

5:46

they weren't sold out. So,

5:48

I'm getting it for the points I wanted and

5:50

everything else. So it's working out.

5:53

Yeah. That's good. Yeah. They will not

5:55

kick somebody out for points. I've tried

5:58

No, they will not. I and I'm not

6:00

trying to kick anybody out. I'm just like, you

6:02

know, they, while I was booking,

6:04

they said a two night minimum and

6:06

it's like, no, you're not doing it.

6:10

Exactly. Good. I'm sure

6:12

the kids will enjoy it.

6:13

the Supreme Court gave me a hell of a birthday

6:15

slash father's day gift.

6:17

Yeah, man. Yeah. That was

6:19

a I mean, I guess to some extent I think

6:21

it was expected, but also nice to

6:23

finally see. It's not a

6:26

decade. I guess what? Five years later.

6:29

And what we're referring to here is the bump

6:31

stock band being overturned, which

6:33

actually sets up a lot of other

6:36

that's a great precedent for a lot of

6:38

cases that are currently churning through

6:40

the system. Because if some judge wants

6:42

to throw out the current cases on technicalities

6:45

or side with the ATF there,

6:47

no, that. Their record

6:50

will become tarnished as a result

6:52

of appeals and being overruled by

6:54

the Supreme Court. This is the whole

6:56

idea of precedents is that generally

6:58

courts try to just follow

7:00

the precedent that is set by the Supreme Court

7:02

so that their case doesn't

7:05

end up in the Supreme Court. I

7:07

think there's multiple reasons for that, but you

7:10

know, you think about it, who

7:12

are judges? They're basically lawyers that

7:14

ended up not

7:16

wanting to argue anymore and just

7:19

make people do what they want, which

7:22

is a certain type of personality of even

7:24

the lawyer subset. These

7:26

people don't like to be publicly humiliated

7:28

by having their cases reversed. Saying

7:31

that they had a bad ruling. And

7:33

so it's actually I think

7:36

mostly that fear

7:38

that makes judges in the

7:40

lower courts try and follow

7:43

the precedents of the Supreme court rather

7:45

than ruling whichever way they want, and then

7:47

having all their cases be reversed in the

7:49

Supreme court with the California

7:51

ninth circuit being the one exception to that rule,

7:55

Yeah I tend to agree with Shakespeare

7:57

and Henry the sixth

7:59

What killed lawyers.

8:00

exactly.

8:03

Lots of lawyer jokes out there, yes. But

8:06

my dad told me one today. I

8:08

figured I'd share here.

8:10

You know what? You call a bus full of lawyers

8:13

with 1 empty seat that goes off the

8:15

cliff.

8:16

One lawyer not enough? I don't know what.

8:18

Damn shame that there was an empty

8:20

Yeah, exactly. Exactly, yeah. There's

8:22

a whole series of those. Types of

8:24

kill the lawyer type jokes. But,

8:27

you know, Everybody

8:29

uses one when they need one.

8:31

Yeah, unfortunately, it's the way the system

8:33

works. But the good news

8:35

about this precedent is it basically says

8:37

that the A. T. F. Does not have the right

8:39

to regulate. Parts like

8:41

this will go to the force reset triggers.

8:43

This

8:44

Yes, that's the one I'm most looking forward

8:46

to because I really, you

8:48

know, I've got a binary. I really want to force reset

8:51

yeah, which the force reset

8:53

trigger is the same sort of thing as a

8:55

bump stock in, in, in its functionality

8:58

is

8:58

the

8:59

in the trigger.

9:00

that Clarence Thomas used, he clearly

9:02

anticipated that case. And

9:05

it says, because

9:08

a firearm is

9:10

only fully automatic.

9:14

If the trigger is

9:16

pressed and held, like,

9:19

why would you use that language in the case about

9:21

bump stocks? Other than

9:23

to let the lower courts know,

9:25

Hey guys, don't send the force reset

9:27

trigger our way, cause you know how we're going to rule.

9:30

So just do it ahead of time.

9:34

So I think all of that shit's

9:36

going to get reversed. All the current cases that

9:38

were. In favor of the

9:40

forced trigger are going to end up getting flipped around,

9:43

which is great because those things, first of all,

9:45

the only reason I don't have one is because it's ridiculously

9:47

expensive. When I looked, it was over 600

9:49

bucks and that was before the court cases

9:51

started. Now they're thousands

9:54

of dollars.

9:55

Yeah. I would prefer a binary

9:57

trigger to be honest with you, but,

9:59

I wouldn't.

10:00

okay.

10:01

No way, man. And the idea

10:04

that when you lift your finger off,

10:06

there's one more shot, I think is dangerous.

10:08

The, so like the Franklin armory binary

10:10

trigger, one of the cool things about it is if you're in

10:13

binary mode and you switch it

10:15

to safe And let go, or you switch

10:17

it to single

10:18

know, dude, that all of them have

10:20

some type of mechanism for that. However,

10:24

your adrenaline pumping, In

10:26

case you use the firearm for something other than

10:28

shooting deer. Remembering

10:31

to, oh yeah, this one is a binary

10:33

unlike my other triggers and

10:35

I have to flip it into safe before

10:38

letting go. It ain't going to happen. I'm

10:40

going to say

10:41

don't see that as any different than

10:43

the forced reset.

10:44

The force reset literally does

10:46

what it says. It resets the trigger

10:49

for you. So. You take that last

10:51

shot, you

10:53

move your finger forward. It's not going to shoot again.

10:56

Yeah, my

10:58

point is, if your adrenaline's pumping,

11:01

the odds of you pulling and holding are

11:03

pretty high too.

11:04

Yeah, but at the forced reset trigger,

11:06

if your adrenaline's here's the irony in it, right?

11:09

Is in an adrenaline pumping situation,

11:12

a forced reset trigger will not shoot

11:14

fast. That

11:16

forced reset trigger, much like

11:18

the bump stock requires a

11:21

somewhat loose hold. If

11:24

you squeeze and keep squeezing,

11:27

you will get the one shot out of a forced

11:29

reset trigger, which again is one of the things I like about

11:31

it. Because it means you can choose

11:34

without flipping any switches. So it's actually

11:36

better than full auto mode, frankly. You

11:39

can choose whether you want a single round

11:41

or whether you want a bunch of

11:44

single rounds.

11:45

Yeah, it's almost like the multi stage trigger

11:47

on like the

11:48

Video games. Yes. Sorry,

11:51

what? Oh

11:53

yeah. Okay. Okay. I thought you were referring

11:55

to video games, which some games have that type

11:57

of functionality with

11:59

No, I was referring to real life.

12:01

Yeah. Okay. All right,

12:03

thing that interests me about the way

12:05

the wording of the ruling

12:07

has been done is the implication

12:10

to the ATF on its purview.

12:13

And where

12:15

they can and cannot regulate. This is clearly

12:17

shit also setting up Chevron deference.

12:20

And it's not just ATF. Now, we're talking

12:22

about guns, but this has much

12:24

broader implications.

12:26

right. But one of the interesting things is,

12:28

I don't know if you've been following the six hour muzzle

12:30

brake case.

12:31

Yeah,

12:33

So the six hour went through and

12:36

you know, a big company like SIG did

12:38

their due diligence on

12:40

making sure that. You

12:42

know, they were compliant with ATF ruling and they

12:44

have this muzzle brake that is a long

12:46

muzzle brake and it's baffles and

12:49

everything else, but there is no enclosure

12:51

on it. So, it is not

12:54

a silencer. It is,

12:56

it's not a suppressor. It is a muzzle

12:58

brake. The ATF's argument

13:01

on making, trying to make this illegal is

13:03

all you'd have to do is put a shroud on it and it becomes

13:05

a Suppressor,

13:07

a potential. It's an

13:09

intended muzzle device that isn't

13:11

complete. Yeah, they're treating it like they're

13:13

treating the 80 percent stuff, which is bullshit.

13:17

You,

13:18

was a clear shot across that bow. Same

13:20

thing,

13:20

yeah, which is

13:22

correct. Now, I don't know,

13:26

like, here's the thing. The ATF

13:29

loves to argue the potentiality of

13:31

things make them illegal. It's a potential. But

13:34

I think a shitty silencer

13:38

should not be legal. Like one

13:40

that doesn't lower the sound

13:42

appreciably should not be legal

13:44

because what Yeah

13:48

even though Congress erroneously

13:50

banned this shit and the president signed

13:52

it because he's a communist, but

13:55

nonetheless, the

13:57

intent, even back in

14:00

those bad decision days was

14:04

that not that, Oh my God, you have an extra

14:07

piece of metal on the front of your gun. The intent

14:09

was this makes guns.

14:12

So quiet that you can

14:14

kill somebody and nobody will hear it,

14:16

which in and of itself is bullshit during

14:19

the testimony of Congress,

14:21

we have the the transcripts of that

14:23

they didn't know how guns work.

14:26

I mean, it was some of the most stupid

14:28

testimony you can hear out of Congress

14:31

because you have a bunch of people making laws

14:33

about things. They know nothing about

14:35

it all. Even that aside, the

14:38

intent was. For

14:40

silencers to be included because

14:42

they allowed the hoodlums,

14:44

the gangsters to basically

14:47

do walk by shootings and

14:49

have in the middle of a crowded

14:52

area and have no one realize anything

14:54

happened until there's

14:56

a dead body and a bunch of blood on the ground. The

14:59

reality is that realization took

15:01

probably one second because

15:03

first you heard a noise. You maybe

15:05

weren't quite sure it was a gunshot, but you definitely

15:07

heard a noise. And remember

15:09

back then cars

15:11

misfired a lot. This was

15:13

early days of automobiles. There was

15:16

a lot of noises going on that

15:18

could be misinterpreted. So the

15:21

idea that the ATF

15:23

extrapolates from a device that limits the amount of

15:25

noise that a gun produces to

15:27

literally anything on the front

15:29

of the gun that may

15:31

potentially theoretically reduce

15:33

the noise by one decibel. Is now

15:36

banned. That is not the intent.

15:38

And you know, unless you're shooting

15:41

a like subsonic 22

15:43

with a hell of a suppressor on it, which you

15:46

know, a buddy of mine has had and.

15:48

He had this Walther 22 that

15:50

he had a suppressor on and shooting subsonics

15:53

on it. All you heard really was the

15:55

clack of the action. You

15:57

can get some quiet guns, but

15:59

again, what is

16:02

the lethality and effectiveness of

16:04

that You know, and that's a whole nother thing.

16:07

A subsonic nine millimeter

16:09

shot out of a a bolt action gun.

16:13

Super quiet. Amazingly quiet.

16:17

kind of goes against your argument, but the

16:20

point is there is no,

16:22

there is nothing

16:23

They weren't walking around with a single

16:26

right, right, right. But, you know, here's

16:28

the thing, a suppressor, there,

16:30

there is no rationale for

16:32

a suppressor being

16:34

No. None. The

16:38

it is frankly a safety device. It's kinda

16:40

like saying that.

16:41

device.

16:42

Yeah, exactly. It's hearing protection. It's

16:44

sort of saying like, red

16:46

dot devices should be illegal because they

16:49

make people more accurate and only bad

16:51

people shoot guns, and therefore

16:53

we don't want people to be able to shoot accurately.

16:56

You should have to only use

16:58

iron sites or like any kinda

17:00

magnifying device site. Would be

17:02

illegal because it allows you to shoot

17:04

way longer distances than you could

17:07

otherwise, and only bad people want to

17:09

do that, but it's a crazy argument

17:11

all the way around the whole NFA is bullshit.

17:14

It is bad law. It's

17:16

unfortunately bad law that no

17:19

one's challenged for a very long

17:21

time. And therefore

17:23

it feels like, Oh, it's the way it's

17:25

always been. No, it's not the way it's always been.

17:28

It was the exact opposite. And then

17:30

we had a bunch of guys with no balls

17:32

that ended up electing the people

17:34

that passed this law

17:36

And, you know, one of the

17:37

and women got the vote.

17:39

one of the things I would say to that is, I have

17:41

a gun that was

17:43

my first gun. It's a breech load 410

17:46

shotgun. That was my dad's

17:48

first gun. That was my grandpa's

17:50

first gun that my great grandpa bought

17:53

out of the Sears and Roebuck cattle,

17:54

Yeah, I love that. That's a great story.

17:57

you know, and it Sears

18:01

used to mail order guns.

18:03

You could get a Tommy gun mail order.

18:06

And I would love to see us go

18:08

back to something like Regardless, the Supreme

18:10

Court decision was a good decision. But

18:13

we'll see what happens with it and where it goes.

18:15

I hope more people get

18:17

a little testicular fortitude from

18:19

this and start challenging more

18:21

things where it is possible and you

18:24

can have sufficient standing to do so.

18:26

you sent me a video, which

18:29

was of a local

18:31

Austin gun dealer who

18:34

was one of the plaintiffs in this,

18:37

or defendant, I guess. I guess he would have been the

18:39

defendant. In this, which is

18:42

hilarious, for instance, for me, because

18:44

he's a guy that I've used for FFL

18:46

transfers for a long time. And then

18:48

I actually took a

18:50

concealed carry class from him when I first

18:53

moved to Austin. So, it's

18:55

interesting seeing him out

18:57

there. I,

18:58

yeah he took it, he,

19:00

a lot of people asked him why he was fighting

19:02

it, His entire thing was exactly

19:04

the ruling he got, which was the

19:07

ATF does not have the right to regulate

19:09

parts in this manner.

19:13

exactly. Now, I don't use him anymore

19:15

because he he didn't respect the coupon

19:17

that I had. But that aside. Kudos

19:20

to him.

19:22

Yeah a coupons.

19:24

Huh. Fuck you man.

19:27

Oh, jeez,

19:29

I'm reading your mind and

19:30

Huh.

19:32

Anyway what else we got? That

19:35

was a bit of good news. It's always good to start

19:37

things off with good news in

19:39

the morning.

19:39

While we're on guns, I got a

19:42

part from my DeVore that I'm pretty happy

19:44

Oh, yeah, you sent the picture.

19:45

Yeah, the black label for our

19:47

foregrip first of all, it extends the

19:50

length of the rail and the

19:52

area you can grab onto the gun significantly

19:55

I

19:56

gives you a lot of rail

19:58

just a little bit uglier, but I can totally

20:00

see how useful it is.

20:03

don't think it makes it uglier and it's utilitarian

20:06

as all

20:07

heavy.

20:07

Not at all. It's actually lighter than

20:10

the factory

20:10

No, I don't mean an actual weight. I mean in terms

20:12

of visual weight.

20:14

Okay. I'm not worried

20:16

about that. Anyway, it is a significant

20:18

upgrade and well worth it. I got

20:20

the one without the bipod integrated,

20:23

but you can get the one with the bipod

20:24

The PiPod one was pretty pricey,

20:27

if I recall.

20:28

They're both pretty pricey, but yeah.

20:31

It was like double for the BiPod.

20:33

Correct. And I, that's not

20:35

a gun I'm going to be shooting off of a bipod very

20:37

often, if at all. So, not a

20:39

thing for me, But also if you

20:41

had this hand guard and you went with

20:43

a 20 inch barrel, for instance, it'll

20:45

Oh, yeah.

20:46

kind of like it

20:48

Like it's supposed to. Right.

20:49

And they have an even longer

20:51

You were talking about doing it.

20:52

I have not yet,

20:53

Okay.

20:54

but you know, it's an, it's a nice

20:56

little upgrade. I'm just glad to see

20:59

that companies are making shit

21:01

for the divorce. Now I will say in

21:04

installing that damn thing,

21:08

I, there, there's this pin

21:10

and screw at the top of

21:12

the hand guard, anyone who's putting this on and

21:14

I was just hand tightening it with.

21:17

Two Allen keys, essentially.

21:20

And I snapped the head off the screw.

21:22

Ooh, that sucks.

21:23

Yeah, I had to order a new part

21:26

from

21:26

you have to drill it?

21:28

No, because it's a pin that goes in,

21:30

and then this screw goes into the pin

21:33

to retain the pin. But it's it,

21:35

the metallurgy that they were using something

21:37

was wrong. I shouldn't have been able to snap it

21:40

like that.

21:40

I need to get a good set of Allen

21:43

wrenches I've got multiple

21:45

sets, but they're all like, you know, 20

21:48

sets from Amazon and

21:51

I've had two different sets now where

21:54

the Allen wrenches have gotten stripped.

21:58

Excuse me,

21:59

like the little,

22:00

here, so a little bit of coughing here and there.

22:02

yeah, you're fine. I personally like

22:04

the little folding pocket style

22:07

where they're all kept together for

22:09

a lot of reasons.

22:11

I have. But I think I've got

22:13

more than one set, but I've tried a couple of those

22:15

keys and I had some fairly

22:17

tight, very small, like these

22:20

are size one screw I don't know, one what, one

22:22

millimeter probably? Whatever they are. But

22:24

they're. They were very

22:27

tight and I had used

22:30

one of the Allen wrenches on one of

22:32

'em, and it unscrewed one

22:34

screw, and it just kept going around in the

22:36

circle on the next one, I thought what happened

22:38

there? So I, I was hoping the screw didn't get

22:40

stripped, so I put a different Allen

22:43

wrench in there of the same size. It

22:45

unscrewed that screw, but then wouldn't unscrew

22:47

the third screw. I'm like, Jesus

22:49

Christ. They literally last one screw.

22:52

yeah, I, and it

22:53

Chinese shit.

22:55

yeah, I quit, but quit buying at Harbor

22:57

Freight, you know, although

22:58

it's about that quality. I mean, I literally, I

23:00

never buy Harbor Freight for that reason, but

23:02

the crap I've been buying on Amazon seems to be

23:05

that same quality lately.

23:06

and I've got a nice T handle set

23:08

that are long, you know, long

23:10

T handle ones for working on stuff

23:13

and that, that can be useful. You

23:15

just kind of need a myriad of tools

23:18

for the different applications. But yeah, a

23:20

good, you know, good tool steel.

23:23

There's a reason why there's a cost there

23:25

that steel has to be hardened to an extent

23:28

Oh, yeah.

23:29

torque on those surface areas and everything

23:31

else.

23:31

And especially for the little tiny

23:33

ones, because you're

23:36

Your amount of surface area

23:38

is very small

23:40

Yes. And the leverage you can exert

23:42

on

23:42

is large.

23:43

And that's something, you know, this

23:45

goes for hydraulics and everything else. You

23:48

know, if you have a one inch diameter.

23:51

Surface area and you put 100 pounds of force

23:53

on it and you have it linked hydraulically

23:56

to a 10 inch you know,

23:59

surface area platter, you've

24:01

increased the amount of force

24:03

that you can exert substantially

24:07

Absolutely

24:10

actually reverse that, but yes

24:11

you're

24:12

was in reverse.

24:14

well, which where's the platter which are you talking

24:16

about the

24:17

The, you would be applying force to the

24:20

10 inch side and the one inch

24:22

side would have a tremendous amount of, that's

24:24

what I'm saying.

24:25

That's why we have torque wrenches.

24:28

Yes. To

24:29

you know

24:29

from and torque screwdrivers and everything else.

24:32

Yeah. Especially with,

24:34

you know, guns and gun parts, you do not

24:36

want to over torque stuff.

24:39

and I got some Loctite

24:43

red and blue here as well in anticipation

24:45

of a project

24:47

What's your project?

24:49

Screwing things. For

24:53

we need to talk ammo at some

24:55

point Winchester has,

24:58

you can find it still, but there's

25:00

some 7500 round barrels

25:02

of M80 Ball, Winchester

25:04

M80 Ball, you can order

25:07

for about 50 cents a round.

25:10

what caliber? 308?

25:13

That's good. I mean, that's a hell

25:15

of a price. I'm trying

25:18

to think back what the cheapest 308

25:20

ammo was back in the 90s.

25:24

I don't even know if it was 50 cents back then. I

25:27

want to say it was around 55,

25:29

60 cents for the cheap stuff and a buck

25:31

or more for the expensive stuff. Cause

25:34

we're a buck or more for the

25:36

for the cheap stuff, right? Exactly. Cause the,

25:38

like, I remember when

25:41

federal gold match was

25:43

exactly a buck around, it was a 20

25:45

for a 20 round box. And I was like, holy

25:47

shit, this crazy expensive. I can't

25:49

believe I need to be buying this. But

25:52

cause all the other ammo costs back then

25:54

was like 15, 20 cents.

25:57

So yeah, that's times

26:00

have changed, but then again, Really,

26:02

and we did the math at some point, I think you and I

26:04

did, and I've done it with plenty of people.

26:07

Really, if you look at the inflation from,

26:10

let's say, the mid 90s, from 95

26:12

to 2025,

26:14

which is

26:15

But before you go crazy on

26:17

that, real quick, at Cabela's right

26:19

now, a box of federal premium gold

26:21

match gold match, 3. 08 is

26:24

40. 99 a box.

26:27

That's for 20 rounds. Yeah,

26:29

so it's over just over two bucks a round.

26:32

Okay, so that

26:34

sounds bad. However, the

26:37

inflation in the last

26:39

25 to 30

26:41

years, let's even say 25 years has

26:44

been more than double

26:47

as an average. So technically

26:49

speaking, the 2

26:52

per round right now is equivalent

26:54

in buying power to two. A buck

26:56

around back then. I

26:59

you know, what a lot of people don't realize is if

27:01

you look at, for instance, gas prices,

27:03

gas is as cheap as it's ever

27:06

been.

27:08

don't think it's quite there, but it's very close.

27:10

I mean, I'm just saying because of inflation

27:13

and

27:13

Yeah.

27:14

That

27:15

gas right now is

27:16

than people

27:17

where we at? Three bucks. What's the

27:19

current gas price? I don't know. I

27:21

don't have a gas vehicle, so.

27:24

Oh, you got rid of your Oh, that's right, you've got the

27:26

have diesel. Diesel's always crazy expensive.

27:29

Yeah, but you know, it's right

27:31

around three bucks. Yeah,

27:33

So, back in the 90s,

27:36

it was under a buck.

27:38

yeah. In D. C. gas was over

27:41

shit. Gas was almost five dollars a gallon.

27:43

Oh yeah, same thing in where I was.

27:45

Over five bucks.

27:47

I would expect Mexico to be cheaper.

27:51

I was in Mexico. I was in the United

27:53

States. I don't know why I keep saying Mexico.

27:55

I don't know, you're sending me a midget wrestling

27:58

video while you're, you know, from there.

28:00

I don't think Seattle has that.

28:02

They totally have major wrestling. What are you talking

28:04

about? That's a normal Seattle thing.

28:07

It's very politically correct. Anyway

28:10

it's yeah. So the

28:12

inflation is ridiculous

28:15

and it devalues your money. But

28:18

also when we complain about

28:20

the high prices, you can, you

28:22

have to use inflation backwards

28:24

to see what that

28:27

is in the dollar range you're

28:29

comparing it to. And of

28:31

course, the longer you live the more

28:33

fond memories of cheap things you have,

28:36

but also don't forget they weren't necessarily

28:38

cheap. They're just cheap relatives. They,

28:41

if there was no inflation, but

28:44

since there is inflation, That

28:47

cheap price may not be that

28:49

cheap. And I had this conversation with

28:51

my dad who is in his eighties,

28:54

who is, um, about

28:57

like the cost of things. Like he

29:00

had bought a Lincoln

29:04

Continental back in the

29:07

late eighties. And

29:10

you know, that car was 29,

29:12

000 in the late eighties. Right now

29:15

you can buy a hundred thousand dollar

29:17

Lincoln navigator, which

29:20

is the sport you, right. So it's

29:22

the the Lincoln version of the Ford,

29:25

uh, what's the big sport you did

29:27

Ford has called, I don't even know expedition.

29:30

yeah, Expedition.

29:31

So, and you know, it's

29:33

fun to bitch about how expensive everything

29:35

is, but I'm like, you know, dad, that's

29:38

triple the price, a little over triple the

29:40

price cents. The

29:43

late eighties, the inflation

29:45

is more than triple the amount

29:47

And the amount of technology and everything else.

29:50

that was exactly what he said. I don't know.

29:52

I don't think that's an argument, dude. I'm talking

29:54

about like, if you want to get an expensive

29:57

Ford, how much do you pay? I'm

29:59

ignoring the whatever

30:02

auto safety self

30:04

driving bullshit stuff.

30:07

I'm just looking at It's an easy

30:09

way to, I think it's a bad argument,

30:11

but it's an easy argument to get out of anything saying

30:13

simply they didn't have 26 computers

30:16

on board those cars, so you can't compare them. Yeah,

30:19

I can compare them because I'm not comparing

30:21

the specs. I'm comparing

30:24

if I went to a dealership, what's the most expensive

30:27

car I could buy back

30:29

then versus today. And

30:32

they're targeting the exact

30:34

same segment today that they

30:36

were targeting back then. That's

30:39

not like I'm comparing a Ford

30:41

What's their sports car that they did a few years

30:43

back? The Ford just

30:46

no. That the super was deaf

30:48

one or whatever. It was that super exclusive

30:50

one for 200 grand Ford's

30:54

whatever. But anyway, German Clarkson has

30:56

one. It's not like I'm trying to use an

30:58

exotic car that somebody made for just a few

31:00

years compared to a normal standard car. I'm

31:02

just saying that's top

31:05

end luxury back then was a Lincoln

31:07

continental today. It's the,

31:09

it'd be in that lineup. It'd be the

31:12

Lincoln. So that's

31:14

the prices I would look at and the comparison I would

31:16

make. So anyway,

31:18

long story short is inflation.

31:21

Is gotten about

31:23

as bad now as it was during the late

31:25

seventies with Jimmy Carter. And

31:28

that's devaluating all our money because

31:30

the two ways to look at inflation is one,

31:33

wow, everything's getting expensive or

31:35

two, wow, I'm getting paid

31:38

less and less every day, which is the more accurate

31:40

one. It's the getting paid less and less because

31:42

the things are typically saying if I've

31:44

gotten more expensive, they

31:46

really haven't gotten more expensive.

31:49

In the global stage, like

31:51

for the rest of the world, they've just gotten

31:53

more expensive for the U S

31:57

The good news is that inflation's

31:59

as low as it's going to be for quite a while.

32:03

well, the fed kept the interest rate

32:05

flat this time around. They didn't bump up

32:07

the rate at all.

32:08

Yeah, but given what's going on with the

32:11

dollar and everything else, the

32:13

devaluation of the dollar is just beginning.

32:16

You know, Saudi Arabia didn't renew the petrodollar

32:18

agreement, which.

32:20

Some of us knew it was coming, that

32:22

they wouldn't, but a lot of people didn't know.

32:25

it's also one of those things that. I

32:29

don't think it's going to be the cliff that everyone's

32:31

predicting that it's going

32:33

to be. It may very well be. It could be,

32:36

but I see Europe

32:39

and a lot of others still trading

32:42

oil in dollars because they want to stay

32:44

as long as the U. S. has the geopolitical

32:46

power that we have. Yes, it's an erosion,

32:49

but it's going to be a slower erosion, not

32:51

a cliff. You know what I mean?

32:54

Yes. The big thing

32:56

for us in the elimination

32:59

of the petrodollar is that a

33:02

lot of countries that only

33:05

had dollars in order to

33:07

do trades internationally now

33:11

realize that trades are just

33:13

numbers on the computer anyway. And

33:17

there's no reason to hold dollar

33:19

reserves anymore. And what

33:21

that does is it's as

33:23

it's sort of the roosters coming home to roost,

33:26

which is we,

33:29

by creating the petro dollar, by getting

33:31

this deal 50 years ago, where

33:34

Saudi Arabia and other countries exclusively

33:36

use the U S dollar to trade

33:38

oil. We were able to

33:41

create. A lot more

33:43

demand for the U S dollar

33:46

and print a lot more U S dollars

33:48

without. Inflating them. And

33:51

now that is starting to

33:53

fall in on itself, which means there's a shit

33:55

ton of money that would have been held

33:57

in reserves by all these countries. What

33:59

we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars worth.

34:02

Yeah, I think that's right. I think it is hundreds of billions.

34:04

When I looked that now.

34:08

Are going to be traded

34:10

or sold for other currencies because they

34:12

no longer need them. And

34:15

that puts more us dollars into

34:17

circulation. And the best

34:19

way for the U S to deal with that, frankly,

34:22

is to have inflation. Like

34:24

inflation is the prescribed

34:27

solution to the problem of

34:30

taking money out of the system. You

34:32

just devalue it that way. You don't

34:34

have to do anything else with it. And

34:36

it's, I mean, that's the thing is like high

34:39

inflation is bad for the population,

34:42

but it's not bad for the country.

34:46

I don't see how it's good for

34:48

the country. But I

34:50

I mean, by

34:50

currency is

34:52

By country, I mean Federal Reserve.

34:54

yeah. That's not the country, that's a private

34:57

institution, you

34:59

know?

35:00

people that run the country.

35:01

I mean, it is one way out of our debt,

35:03

you know, we can inflate our way out of our debt,

35:05

I guess. But, you know, I think

35:08

that has its own set of consequences

35:10

that will be very dire. I mean, just prepare

35:12

for your you know, standard of

35:14

living to collapse.

35:16

Which it is. Yeah, absolutely.

35:18

I think that the most expensive thing

35:21

that a whole generation of people will ever

35:23

own is their iPhone.

35:25

I mean, that's a pretty expensive piece of

35:27

equipment, but you.

35:28

else will be rented. Their car will be rented,

35:30

their home will be rented. Everything

35:33

else that's more expensive than the iPhone will

35:35

be something you pay for your entire life.

35:38

And I certainly think that the way the housing

35:40

market is going

35:43

that's likely because I think what's going to happen

35:45

is a interest rates

35:47

are going to continue to go up. I don't care that

35:49

the fed didn't

35:52

raise rates this time. They're probably

35:54

going to. And even if it stays exactly

35:56

where it is right now,

35:59

it prices a lot of people out of the

36:01

market just because of

36:03

the way A generation

36:06

grew up with cheap money and

36:08

structured their finances, you

36:11

know, probably poorly, but that's the way they

36:13

structured them. And as

36:15

a result, you know, there

36:18

is going to be a generation

36:20

that does not own housing. They rent

36:22

it and it's going to be corporations that rented

36:24

that, or we're going to have a massive

36:27

collapse in the housing market. It's

36:29

one or the other. It can't be any other way.

36:31

And you're this is the bit

36:33

that through certainly most

36:35

of my lifetime is the idea that

36:38

there were corporations that

36:41

We're created simply to own

36:43

single family homes just

36:46

never existed. I mean, there were occasionally

36:48

here and there you'd find people that own multiple

36:50

homes and they rented them out. But

36:52

for the most part the only

36:55

things that you had corporations owning

36:57

were A whole bunch of different apartment buildings.

37:00

There, there was, and plenty of apartment buildings,

37:02

frankly, were owned by individuals as well.

37:05

There was not really this

37:08

amount of profit that was available

37:10

within this single family home

37:12

rental market. Like you,

37:15

you know, you could make money, but you'd have

37:17

way too many units that were not. Occupied

37:20

to justify it. You can make money faster.

37:22

Other ways for corporation to

37:25

do it right now, you got

37:27

plenty of companies, including black rock

37:30

that own tens of thousands

37:32

of single family homes, if

37:35

not hundreds of thousands by each

37:37

company. With the,

37:39

it's pricing a lot of people out of the market

37:41

because these corporations, if nothing

37:43

else, let's say you have two equal offers of 100, 000

37:46

and one of them is contingent on financing

37:49

and one of them is a

37:49

one of them's cash

37:51

which one are you taking? You're taking the cash offer.

37:54

Yeah, and that's happened here in Austin a

37:56

lot, because I have a friend that his

37:58

wife is a realtor, and so

38:00

I hear about this stuff occasionally, and

38:03

there's a ton of people, including

38:06

Californians who have, you know, plenty

38:08

of money from selling their homes who just

38:10

get locked out of a home that

38:12

they like because that every

38:14

house has multiple offers here that's

38:16

still going on. Even now for

38:19

a while there was crazy. It was like you were getting

38:21

30 to 40 offers per house.

38:23

It was insane. But Yeah,

38:25

the people will always lose. The corporations

38:28

will always win because the corporations

38:31

have a lot more flexibility. That's what happens

38:34

when you have a large

38:37

group versus an individual.

38:40

This is always going to happen. So unless

38:42

there's some laws that get passed, and I'm not

38:44

a big fan of passing laws for this kind

38:46

of purpose, but unless there's some laws

38:49

that essentially say that a

38:51

certain area has to be owned

38:53

by individuals, can't be owned by corporations,

38:56

kind of like they've passed laws that exclude

38:58

people from doing the you know,

39:00

renting their homes out for short term.

39:02

What do you call that? Airbnb. Yeah.

39:05

be done with, it can, Airbnb stuff.

39:08

You can do it without even laws.

39:11

You can do deed restrictions.

39:13

Now, some deed restrictions have been

39:15

struck down over the years, but, you

39:18

know, in theory, if

39:20

you're selling your home and you put

39:22

something into the deed saying, this

39:24

must be owned by an individual or something

39:26

like that you know, that, that

39:29

can be done. Now, will

39:31

that deed restriction hold up?

39:33

You know, deed restrictions were used for

39:35

I'm against that stuff generally

39:38

I am too. I can't stand it. It's

39:40

like homeowners

39:41

But also the yeah

39:43

not reality.

39:45

but also the deed restrictions

39:47

I kind of a joke anyway, because

39:50

if you say something like that the

39:52

home isn't owned by the person buying the home, the homes

39:55

owned by the bank until the person pays it off.

39:58

So really if

40:00

the person stops making payments,

40:03

the bank gets it. No amount

40:05

of deed restrictions is

40:07

going to make the bank not get that

40:09

home. And this is the whole point is the bank

40:11

They are a lien holder.

40:14

They

40:14

And a lean holder gets they effectively

40:16

hold it, I mean.

40:17

okay. I mean, in, in that case, if

40:19

you're going down that road, actually your homeowners

40:22

association owns it because the homeowners

40:24

association is actually the first line lien

40:26

homeowner association

40:28

has more rights to your property. In

40:30

almost all cases, then

40:32

does the bank,

40:34

Yeah, but they don't generally have

40:36

a lien for the amount of the value of the

40:38

home.

40:39

It does not matter. They

40:41

does matter. I've been on two different

40:43

boards of homeowner associations,

40:45

what States,

40:47

in Minnesota, and,

40:49

it's different there.

40:50

I'm, how many homes have you had to deal

40:53

with this issue on? Because I've got

40:55

personal experience, so

40:56

If my current home has a homeowner's

40:58

association, unfortunate.

41:01

right? And I'm not saying have you owned a home

41:03

with the homeowners? Have you been on the board where you had

41:05

somebody that stopped paying for their

41:07

homeowners association dues

41:09

that you had to then file in

41:12

court a lien against their house? I've done

41:14

that twice.

41:16

Okay.

41:17

And my point is,

41:19

you're a bastard. Got

41:20

if you get to that point, I'm not a bastard.

41:23

I'm just somebody that happens to be

41:25

on boards. Is that when you get to

41:27

that point, you're trying to collect

41:29

like maybe 5, 000

41:31

because that's six months worth of

41:33

payments or longer. The

41:35

bank has a

41:38

500, 000 lien on that in the property.

41:40

Yes, you're first in line, but

41:43

you're going to get a small sliver

41:46

of that. So all you're going to achieve

41:48

if you win is to

41:51

kick that person out of the house and

41:53

get your bill paid. Which

41:55

is good. Obviously, it's what you're trying to do, but

41:58

the bank will be the one that ends

42:00

up getting the house. Not

42:03

you. The bank's just gonna cut you a check. You're

42:07

not gonna get a 500, 000 house

42:10

for a 5, 000 lien.

42:12

I think you should go look at some of the stuff

42:14

that's gone on. Nevada's the worst about

42:16

this Vegas area, some of the

42:18

foreclosures and stuff there.

42:21

Vegas is run by the mobs, so

42:23

Yeah,

42:26

homes for minor minor

42:29

amounts and selling the home.

42:32

And yes, they technically owe you

42:34

the surplus, et cetera, but

42:37

man, they can do lots of crazy stuff. So

42:39

that's the entire point.

42:41

I don't know, man. I like, we've Like,

42:44

boards I've been on, we've had to do it twice while

42:46

I was on the board. And and I don't know

42:48

what the hell people are thinking. Like, pay the damn

42:51

amount. That's not, it's

42:54

not optional.

42:56

It should be

42:57

Yeah,

42:57

homeowners associations should

42:59

don't want to live in the homeowner's association,

43:01

don't buy a property with the homeowner's association.

43:03

It's that easy. It's,

43:07

because the you're, it's like joining

43:10

a golf club by

43:12

buying a house on a golf club and then saying

43:15

nobody should be playing golf because I don't want

43:17

balls hitting my house.

43:18

Yeah, sorry.

43:21

You want that little exclusion after the

43:23

fact? Guess what? Don't buy a house on the golf

43:25

course if you don't want your house hit. Kind

43:29

of a thing. Oh, that's a hilarious photo

43:31

you just sent. Jesus Christ. Tee

43:33

hee! Ahhh.

43:38

Okay, you have to explain it now.

43:40

no, you're the one who brought it up.

43:42

yeah! You sent it! You can explain

43:44

it.

43:45

It's just a double eggplant,

43:47

It's a vegetable. It's a double

43:49

eggplant in the shape of a sex

43:51

toy.

43:53

And the caption reads, Mother Nature

43:55

is adapting.

43:58

Jesus Christ.

43:59

We're, you know, we're fine, right?

44:01

Huh. Huh. It's

44:04

all good. No, that's hilarious.

44:06

Hey, if it wouldn't be for humor, it'd be

44:08

a pretty sad world, wouldn't it?

44:11

it would be. So while

44:13

we're on a humorous trend here,

44:16

so did Biden shit himself?

44:19

again?

44:20

Did you not see the D Day video

44:22

that went viral and everybody's

44:24

I saw it like, a couple weeks

44:26

ago, yeah, I think he did.

44:28

No, this was during D Day

44:30

oh, no, I didn't, no, maybe not

44:32

then. I mean, I saw a video where he's walking

44:34

with his wife and then he kind of stops, squats

44:37

a little bit, and then keeps going.

44:39

No, yeah, this was at they were

44:41

standing around waiting on some of the D

44:43

Day soldiers to get there and maybe you lost

44:45

track of time in Mexico, but it was this

44:47

week. And anyway, he can just

44:49

kind of squats, stands up, does another

44:51

Ana Day is not this month even,

44:54

I don't know what you're talking

44:55

Anyway, it was pretty hilarious,

44:57

Yeah. Yeah,

44:59

it, He, I think he does that on

45:01

a regular basis.

45:03

I think the odds of him being

45:05

incontinent are pretty high, but one of the things

45:07

I'll

45:08

Incontinent, incompetent, you name

45:10

it.

45:10

yeah. You

45:13

know, I more and more people

45:15

that I've been talking to especially on my

45:17

DC trip, Quite frankly, the majority

45:20

of people I was talking to are Democrats.

45:23

Are convinced that

45:26

Biden will be replaced, During

45:28

the virtual nomination stuff.

45:30

Or later.

45:32

No, that they are doing this virtual nomination

45:34

stuff in order to potentially

45:37

get him out and

45:39

change it so that You know, Kamala,

45:41

or Gavin Newsom, or somebody.

45:44

not a Kamala. Nobody likes her. Yeah

45:47

how do you skip her

45:48

if you get rid of him, you get rid of her, you can't

45:50

you can't have the

45:53

The presidential nominee not get to pick

45:55

his VP. Can you?

45:57

Yes.

45:57

No. The now nominee will always pick their

45:59

own VP. That's how it works. That's

46:02

how they're going to get rid of it. We can get rid of her cause

46:05

I, nobody wants her to be the nominee cause

46:07

she would even with a election

46:10

like the last one, she was probably still find a way

46:12

to lose. So they

46:14

want somebody more like a Gavin Newsom

46:16

or like, you know, like somebody

46:19

who is not a moron. And

46:21

somebody who can speak a

46:23

lot of the rhetoric. What they need is somebody like

46:25

an AOC, but with a little

46:27

more experience.

46:30

Oh man. It's

46:32

scary to

46:33

And frankly, if they ran somebody like

46:35

an, oh, AOC will run at some point,

46:37

you know, she will. But

46:40

they need somebody that can make

46:42

the age argument 80

46:46

year old Trump? Or do you want

46:48

like a 35, 40, 45

46:50

year old person who understands

46:53

your generation? I

46:56

mean, it's frankly the argument that Vivek had

46:58

that nobody on the right seemed to give

47:00

a shit about. I can't. I'm

47:02

still pissed at how few

47:05

votes he got in the primaries.

47:07

It's like, just tells me that it's not

47:10

just the party that is a bunch of rhinos.

47:12

It just tells me there's a bunch of idiots in the

47:14

party, period. I think the Republican

47:16

party is a, it's,

47:20

I don't know, man I'm not a happy camper.

47:22

Like there was a time when the Republicans were

47:24

like a slightly worse version

47:26

of libertarians. I'd say

47:28

it's nowhere near that right now. Although the

47:31

libertarians now are basically

47:33

Antifa. So what the

47:34

The Libertarians shot themselves in the foot.

47:36

Yeah, there, there is no good party

47:39

right now. They're literally. If

47:42

I didn't, if I

47:44

didn't think that

47:47

a symbolic vote for Trump meant

47:49

anything there, I would probably just not vote at

47:51

all because there

47:53

is no good party to vote for right

47:56

now. Did you hear Marjorie

47:58

Taylor Greene say something

48:00

that was very cringeworthy in my opinion?

48:03

She said we need to have everybody

48:06

come out and vote. And even for

48:08

the rhinos out there,

48:10

and I know we all hate them and

48:12

you could see the look on her face. She was cringing when she

48:15

was saying it, but if we don't

48:17

get a majority, including the

48:19

rhinos, In the house, then

48:23

the Democrats are going to get to

48:26

do what they always do when they have a majority,

48:28

which is just not let people run

48:30

things like they'll prevent

48:33

votes on certain things. They'll not bring certain

48:35

topics up. So I mean, as

48:38

much as I hate to hear it, she did have a point,

48:40

but I also hate to hear it. So I'd rather

48:42

let it burn, which

48:44

is Okay. It's

48:46

things are so close that even

48:49

if you want to vote against the rhino

48:51

like I've seriously been thinking of

48:53

just getting in a car apartment for a few

48:55

months down

48:56

San

48:56

In yeah in that well

48:59

south of San Antonio like in that whole

49:01

region that what's his face ran in Brandon

49:03

ran in. Yeah, Herrera ran in.

49:05

a little over 400

49:07

Yeah. Yeah, lost by four. And just voting

49:09

Democrat. Just to

49:11

get that motherfucker out who he

49:13

lost against. But the

49:15

danger of trying to focus on getting

49:18

one rhino out. Is

49:20

that then the Republicans just don't

49:23

have control of the house at all, but

49:25

I don't know if it even matters, honestly. I mean, this is

49:27

how bad it's gotten. It's like, does it even

49:30

all that much matter whether it's Republicans

49:32

or Democrats that they have control of the house?

49:34

You know, if we go to a contingent election,

49:36

yeah, it's gonna matter. Now,

49:39

that will be the next time, because right

49:41

now the Republicans by delegation

49:43

do control the House. The

49:46

Senate, since the defection

49:48

of the guy in West Virginia and everything

49:51

else is kind of up for

49:53

grabs, but you know, there, there's a possibility

49:55

we go to a contingent election, but I'm

49:58

somewhat with you on the, fuck

50:00

it, just burn it all down at this point, man.

50:02

It, we are at a point. Like,

50:05

when you look at what is going on, for instance,

50:07

with Alex Jones, and our judicial

50:09

system, and you look at Trump, and our judicial

50:12

system, and you look at all this, and people

50:14

are acting astonished, it's like, this

50:16

isn't something new, it's

50:18

just, you're just now seeing it, our judicial

50:20

system has been fucked for quite a while,

50:23

so, yeah

50:24

it's been fucked but it's being openly

50:26

politicized We're in the past this might

50:28

have happened and people try to make

50:31

it not obvious But

50:33

right now no one they don't give a shit. They don't

50:35

care. It's everybody's seeing

50:37

America as a banana Republic I mean, this

50:39

is the comments You have comments like this, not just

50:41

from people in Russia and China. You

50:43

have comments like that from people all over Europe.

50:45

It's like, what is going on in, in

50:48

America these days? You know, they trying

50:50

to do a German accent.

50:52

Did not sound German at all.

50:53

I know I'm still getting over the cold, but

50:56

Come on, you should have the German one.

50:58

Yeah. Hand hoch! Hands up. So,

51:02

yeah, I think it's a it's

51:05

shitty dude. There's no good at solution here.

51:07

And even if by some

51:09

miracle, the Democrats don't

51:12

steal the election and Trump actually

51:14

gets elected and actually

51:17

goes into office, nothing

51:19

really changes. He's not some

51:21

miracle man that a bunch of people

51:23

in the generation older

51:25

than me. I think it starts people my age

51:28

and goes. The,

51:31

what I kind of refer to as the pillow

51:33

generation or the, my pillow generation,

51:36

like, they think Trump is some kind

51:38

of a miracle worker, right?

51:41

Guy had a very meh

51:45

first term.

51:47

I don't think it was that meh.

51:49

His biggest accomplishments were things that

51:51

didn't happen like wars. He

51:54

didn't have anything actually big

51:57

happened during his first term. I guess,

51:59

unless you count COVID in which, and

52:02

if you look at COVID, he's the guy that put

52:04

Fauci up there.

52:06

Well, Fauci was in the government and

52:09

No, I mean, up there as an on television

52:11

he's the one that kind of pushed Fauci

52:14

as the spokesperson for the United

52:16

States healthcare system instead

52:18

of being a dog torturer.

52:22

or, you know, killing AIDS patients.

52:24

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's how he got his initial

52:27

rise is by killing age patients, but

52:29

Then he moved down to torturing animals. I,

52:32

and I, again, this is something

52:34

that I've had this conversation

52:36

with a few people on that. The

52:39

first time I saw Fauci,

52:42

I just thought this dude's evil.

52:44

Like there's something about him visually

52:47

that just indicates. I didn't need to hear

52:49

him speak. I didn't need to know really

52:51

who the fuck he was. He just looks

52:54

sadistic and

52:56

and not in a good way. And

52:58

so like

53:00

the more that's come out, the more

53:03

my gut feel has been. Justified.

53:05

I think most people

53:07

are now recognizing

53:11

that Fauci lied and people have

53:13

died, right? That is a

53:15

whole thing

53:16

Maybe it's because his name sounds like Faust

53:19

or something, but to me, he just always

53:21

looked demonic.

53:23

Regardless, did you hear what happened

53:25

with Alice Jones on Friday?

53:27

Friday? No. I know they were trying

53:29

to get his company.

53:30

Yeah, the judge Threw out

53:32

the conservator, Handed the keys

53:35

over to Alex, and is sending it back

53:37

to the Texas court.

53:38

That's

53:38

So that's about as big of a win

53:41

as you can ever hope for from

53:43

an Alex Jones

53:44

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good.

53:46

I guess what they were trying to do is say,

53:48

look, he's not making payments in

53:50

a timely manner. He's, he

53:52

doesn't have a plan to pay off the entire

53:54

trillion dollar amount. Therefore

53:57

at the very least we ought to take his company. That

54:00

way he won't,

54:01

take his Twitter account, everything.

54:03

Those are all owned by the company.

54:06

No, the Twitter account is his personal

54:08

property. Yes, and they're actually

54:11

coming after his personal property. This is

54:13

the other thing, is they were trying to

54:15

move it from a chapter 11 to a chapter 7,

54:17

which would essentially make him an indentured

54:19

slave for the rest of his life.

54:21

Exactly. Which, I

54:24

think that's coming for everybody. I mean, honestly,

54:26

I

54:26

Oh, debtor prisons are coming back,

54:29

all sorts of stuff, man. You know, people who

54:31

think, oh, nah, I can get out

54:33

of this and whatever. No, that's

54:35

going away.

54:37

Yeah, I think it is going away. Because you know,

54:39

when the when the ships start sinking, the

54:41

rats start screwing. And

54:44

the government is doing a lot of screwing these

54:46

days.

54:48

We had the anniversary of the Killdozer this last

54:51

week.

54:52

The what?

54:53

The Killdozer?

54:54

What's that?

54:57

Gene, you don't know about the Killdozer.

54:58

No.

54:59

You've seen the meme. The armored

55:02

bulldozer that a guy made

55:04

in a muffler shop, armored it up, and then

55:06

drove through Colorado town tearing

55:08

it down.

55:09

No?

55:11

Oh, Jesus Christ.

55:12

I did not see that. What is this?

55:13

2004.

55:16

I don't recall that at all.

55:18

Okay, just Google Killdozer,

55:20

go watch a documentary or two. Guy

55:23

at the end of his rope, pissed off at the town

55:25

and their corrupt politics, literally

55:28

up armors a bulldozer

55:30

and starts tearing up the town.

55:32

Wow.

55:33

And he finally got stuck in the

55:35

basement of one

55:37

building in Offed himself, but

55:39

yeah,

55:41

And why'd you bring it up?

55:43

because it was the anniversary of it happening,

55:46

20 year anniversary,

55:47

Oh. Okay. Not

55:49

heard of it, man.

55:50

Okay I mean, they were shooting at him,

55:52

they tried to trap, do tank traps

55:54

for him, he just, anyway.

55:57

Bulldozers can take a lot of shit,

55:59

man. They're, actually, I think

56:01

they're heavier than tanks. Meant to

56:03

go as fast.

56:04

No, they're not.

56:05

But you look at a T 11 out there, and

56:07

you know, what

56:08

I just can't believe you don't know about the Killdozer,

56:10

like, it's a meme, man it's

56:12

been a meme.

56:13

I was, you know, married

56:15

to a 25 year old back then. Sorry.

56:19

Right, but the meme I guarantee

56:21

you I

56:21

I wasn't watching television.

56:24

Twitter right now.

56:25

Yeah. I don't know, man. Don't know, tell you, never

56:28

heard of it. I'll look it up though.

56:30

Yeah, Google, just go on Twitter

56:33

and search Killdozer, and

56:35

yeah, 2015. 2000,

56:37

June 4th, 2020

56:39

I'm wondering what model he had now, that's

56:41

Yeah, and people

56:45

are making Killdozers, people

56:47

are, you know, and the meme

56:50

right now is never forget what happens when reasonable

56:52

men are pushed to do unreasonable

56:54

Oh, that was the tie in, I see

56:56

where you were going. Okay.

56:58

Good God. I mean, you know, I make a

57:00

reference that

57:01

Aw, dude, that's not even a, aw, it

57:03

was a Komatsu, that's not even a good bulldozer.

57:06

Jesus. It was a D 355.

57:09

he still did a fucking

57:12

Dude, you

57:13

amazing job armoring it.

57:14

yeah, you get yourself a D 11, then you take on

57:16

the world.

57:18

Anyway.

57:20

Interesting. Guy looks like a normal dude.

57:23

Yeah, and apparently he snapped.

57:26

It says he's 52 years old. Huh.

57:32

Yeah. Yeah, this is

57:34

a baby bulldozer. Yeah. Interesting.

57:39

Yeah, people do snap occasionally, that'll

57:41

happen, that's, uh government

57:43

doesn't like that, so

57:46

they would appreciate if people didn't, but

57:48

certainly happens from time to time. What's

57:50

the latest on I? I got confused

57:53

with all this bulldozer stuff. What's

57:55

the latest on night vision

57:57

and or thermal? We haven't talked about that,

58:00

people have been asking.

58:02

I don't have to do, other

58:05

than

58:05

use,

58:06

this new stuff that's coming out that

58:09

apparently will allow Close

58:12

to a PVS 14 on a

58:14

thin layer on normal glasses.

58:17

I'm

58:19

I haven't heard of that. What is that?

58:21

going to have to look it up. They have a new

58:24

coding talk while I do this.

58:26

Alright for anyone interested

58:28

you can pick up one of these Komatsu

58:30

they're not even called bulldozers, they're

58:33

called a, uh, tracked

58:35

tractor, which

58:38

kind of seems a little redundant, but

58:41

you can pick one up pretty cheap. They got

58:43

they got them online. What?

58:45

check signal.

58:46

okay. Oh, my other ride is an ATF agent's

58:48

wife. Yes. Yeah, I remember seeing that image as well.

58:51

So, oh,

58:54

the one before that. Okay. You sent me the,

58:56

my other ride is an ATF agent's

58:58

wife.

58:59

Yeah.

59:00

That was a funny bumper

59:01

I, this is this, I'm talking about the link

59:04

regarding, yeah.

59:05

I have another buddy send me that. Am

59:07

I could, my friends have something in common

59:09

here. Optical engineers invent

59:11

ultra thin coating that turns ordinary glass into

59:14

a high efficiency night vision. I think that's funny.

59:17

Okay Kodak has a new

59:20

patent out and several

59:22

others are working on this, that

59:25

it's essentially the same

59:27

principles as how a

59:29

intensifier tube works just

59:31

in a coating. It does still

59:33

require some power and electrification but the

59:35

entire idea here is And

59:38

there's several articles around it and maybe

59:40

it's FUD, but yeah,

59:44

Yeah, I think it would be

59:46

certainly an improvement if we can

59:48

get glasses that have even a

59:50

two to one photo intensification,

59:52

that would be something. But

59:54

you know, night vision is thousands

59:56

of times of intensification these

59:59

days, and I don't think we're going to

1:00:01

get that with a thin film.

1:00:04

I am not suggesting that we do, but

1:00:07

it's just interesting.

1:00:08

um, so it

1:00:10

looks like

1:00:13

Anyway, you obviously had something to bring

1:00:15

up on night vision since you brought it

1:00:17

I brought it up only because I've had a couple

1:00:19

of people send me stuff on X

1:00:22

asking about it. Here's

1:00:24

the reality from my standpoint is after

1:00:26

we were talking about it for like three months,

1:00:28

six months ago, and I bought

1:00:31

a a infrared. Doodad

1:00:34

thingy for lack of a better

1:00:36

term and a helmet to put it

1:00:39

on and all this other stuff I

1:00:41

am done shit with it. I

1:00:43

have not I

1:00:45

literally have done nothing. So there is

1:00:47

nothing to report back guys if you're

1:00:49

one thing I will report is hardhead

1:00:51

veterans finally came out with their all

1:00:53

us made here in Texas.

1:00:57

Ballistic helmet costs

1:00:59

what a Team Wendy bump helmet does.

1:01:01

Right, which is a pretty impressive

1:01:04

that they're able to do that

1:01:05

Made in Texas.

1:01:07

yeah, and made in texas is definitely a big

1:01:09

thing. It means the atf can't

1:01:11

fuck with it because helmets clearly are

1:01:13

in violation of the nfa Being

1:01:18

facetious there, but

1:01:20

I wouldn't shock me if they came out with something

1:01:22

that basically says all safety

1:01:24

equipment for shooting violates the NFA.

1:01:27

There's already been a couple prosecutors trying

1:01:29

to go after people for training

1:01:31

outdoors, and that this is

1:01:34

obviously militaristic,

1:01:36

and you're involved in a shooting and

1:01:38

you've been training. You, it's

1:01:40

tantamount to premeditated murder.

1:01:42

They would much prefer that, that

1:01:45

the plebs had no training whatsoever.

1:01:47

Yeah, and no understanding of how to

1:01:49

protect themselves, I agree.

1:01:51

That would be the preference. Absolutely. Yeah,

1:01:55

it's yeah. I read the article.

1:01:57

It's, it does look interesting. I will

1:01:59

say so they're doing Basically

1:02:02

wavelength shifting to convert infrared

1:02:05

into visible through a coding, which is a pretty

1:02:07

cool thing. But, hardly

1:02:09

night vision.

1:02:10

I mean, it's the same thing that an intensifier tube

1:02:12

does, just in a microcosm. So,

1:02:15

it, it's an interesting thing. It'll

1:02:17

be interesting to see where it goes. You

1:02:19

know, it, it will be. That's

1:02:23

pretty much all we can say at this point. But did

1:02:25

you see Trump new

1:02:28

tax plan?

1:02:29

Nope.

1:02:30

So he's got two items that he's proposing.

1:02:32

One is to abolish the

1:02:34

income tax and go pure tariff

1:02:37

based, which

1:02:37

I heard that. Yeah.

1:02:39

And then the other proposal he has

1:02:41

at the very least is to, and this, I

1:02:43

think, will get a lot of people to vote

1:02:45

for him, especially if they realize it. The

1:02:48

new plan would be to make

1:02:50

tips non taxable income.

1:02:52

Yeah, I heard that as well. I didn't

1:02:55

realize they were taxable to begin with. Or at least

1:02:57

nobody ever reports them.

1:02:58

Yeah they are. So, good

1:03:02

way to get audited.

1:03:04

yeah. So basically we're going to have a whole bunch of people

1:03:06

reclassifying their income as tips

1:03:09

Oh, you know,

1:03:11

because if they're legally non taxable,

1:03:13

why wouldn't you just charge

1:03:16

zero and then just get tips?

1:03:18

Because a tip is a voluntary thing,

1:03:20

Yeah. So it's paying somebody.

1:03:22

Eh, you're running into the value

1:03:24

for value model arguments here.

1:03:26

Exactly. Exactly. It's but

1:03:28

you could like pre charge a tip. Hey

1:03:32

you tip me and I'll do something for you.

1:03:34

Yeah it, we'll see how it all comes out.

1:03:37

Huh.

1:03:37

And before CSB complains about

1:03:39

my audio again the Motu is in the

1:03:41

shop, by the way. CSB

1:03:44

it is at Motu

1:03:45

does complain about your idea with some regularity.

1:03:47

That's true. And I hear about it. The

1:03:50

tariff thing is interesting too, because generally

1:03:52

I'm against tariffs. And it, most

1:03:54

people don't realize just how many tariffs

1:03:56

the U. S. currently has. It

1:03:58

is hardly a free market here, but

1:04:02

I understand why countries

1:04:05

do tariffs and they do them for

1:04:07

generally two reasons. One is to

1:04:09

protect the local production

1:04:12

facilities and local companies. To

1:04:16

push back on other countries that

1:04:18

they think are aggressively

1:04:20

under pricing things in order to

1:04:23

to hurt the industry of the country itself. Using

1:04:26

tariffs for a third reason for in

1:04:29

lieu of taxes is interesting. I

1:04:31

think that might be worth a more of a deep dive

1:04:33

to see how exactly

1:04:36

that would work.

1:04:37

I mean, that's the way this country funded

1:04:39

itself for the first several hundred years

1:04:41

several hundred, the first 50 years

1:04:44

of its existence. Was

1:04:46

your fee for service model and

1:04:48

tariffs?

1:04:50

tariffs are. They're

1:04:53

certainly right for abuse, too, because you

1:04:55

can selectively make, oh,

1:04:57

I don't know, for example, a high tariff

1:04:59

on tea. That

1:05:02

would be no

1:05:02

as it, as long as it's done by the representatives,

1:05:05

you know, problem

1:05:08

is taxation without

1:05:09

As a drinker of Yorkshire tea, I

1:05:11

oppose any tea tariffs.

1:05:13

I think we ought to have very high tariffs,

1:05:15

except where we go into unilateral

1:05:17

trade agreements and it is unilaterally

1:05:20

or bilaterally rather. Not

1:05:23

multilateral, but bilateral. Bilaterally

1:05:26

agreed that, okay, UK,

1:05:28

for example, we're not going to tax your tea.

1:05:30

You're not going to tax our stuff going into the UK.

1:05:33

We are going to have free

1:05:35

trade between these two countries.

1:05:37

We have agreed to that. But

1:05:40

the problem is, where the US may not

1:05:42

have tariffs, and China can just dump whatever

1:05:44

they want, and China tariffs the shit

1:05:47

out of anything going into China, that's

1:05:49

not free trade either. So,

1:05:51

No, it's not. So the question is, do you

1:05:53

have free trade, or do you have tit

1:05:56

for tat?

1:05:58

you have to have tit for tat in the real world.

1:06:02

Because you, you have to come

1:06:04

from a place of we are going

1:06:06

to tariff the shit out of you unless you agree

1:06:09

to actual free

1:06:11

trade between our two nations.

1:06:13

And the only way to do that, the

1:06:15

only way to do that is bilaterally.

1:06:18

Otherwise it gets too big and shit sneaks

1:06:20

in. You know, even NAFTA II

1:06:22

and the

1:06:24

that's bad. Yeah.

1:06:25

It's not great. It's better than it was,

1:06:27

but it's not great.

1:06:30

And there is an argument to be made

1:06:32

that having a country be self

1:06:34

sufficient Is worth preserving.

1:06:39

Like if you outsource absolutely

1:06:41

everything to the cheapest available,

1:06:45

a country willing to do that

1:06:47

particular task, at

1:06:49

some point, you'll find yourself

1:06:52

redundant,

1:06:54

indeed.

1:06:57

nobody needs a country that outsources everything.

1:06:59

And you can't have a service

1:07:02

based economy. That's just a false

1:07:04

principle to

1:07:05

Yeah. Yeah. Which I don't know if you saw that

1:07:07

we've had another layer of

1:07:09

tariffs or not tariffs, there's

1:07:12

similar tariffs of, um, what

1:07:14

do you call them? Restrictions on Russia. What

1:07:16

am I thinking? Sanctions. Exactly.

1:07:19

Exactly. Which are essentially

1:07:21

tariffs. And

1:07:24

this one is now

1:07:26

been applied to to the money

1:07:28

market for financial institutions

1:07:32

that trade with Russia.

1:07:35

And, effectively,

1:07:37

it has removed Russia's ability

1:07:40

to use the

1:07:42

petrodollar, ironically. Which

1:07:45

I'm sure a lot of people thought didn't we already do this

1:07:47

two years ago? No, we didn't.

1:07:50

But now we have. And

1:07:52

so now Russia is

1:07:54

having to not use

1:07:57

U. S. dollars for settlement purposes

1:07:59

for anything. Which

1:08:01

is, boy, it

1:08:03

sure sounds like the briar patch for

1:08:06

Bricks to Me.

1:08:07

I mean, bricks,

1:08:08

You get the briar patch reference, I assume.

1:08:10

The rabbit running into the Or the 1812

1:08:13

reference, you know, we chased them

1:08:15

they went where rabbits even wouldn't

1:08:17

Yeah. Oh, no, don't throw me in there.

1:08:19

That would be horrible. So,

1:08:23

I don't know, man. I think that at

1:08:26

some point you have to consider the ramifications

1:08:29

Of doing sanctions on

1:08:31

your own country and your friendly countries

1:08:35

and not just simply look at what

1:08:38

they would do from a punishment standpoint.

1:08:40

Because first of all, they may

1:08:42

not do what you think they will in terms of

1:08:44

punishment, but the ramifications

1:08:46

on yourself and friendly countries

1:08:49

may be far greater than

1:08:52

the the punishment that

1:08:54

you're doing to the other guys.

1:08:57

Fair enough. I, you know, I don't think

1:08:59

we should use sanctions as economic

1:09:01

warfare because I think it undermines our own

1:09:04

position, largely.

1:09:05

Oh, it's.

1:09:07

would say that we shouldn't do that.

1:09:09

I think the, this is part of

1:09:12

the reason that Saudi Arabia

1:09:14

did not renew. Now you

1:09:16

could argue that they never would have renewed

1:09:19

no matter what happened, but I suspect

1:09:21

that had the whole Ukraine situation

1:09:24

been settled in the first six months. That

1:09:27

there's a pretty good chance that Saudi Arabia

1:09:29

may have just kept the status quo.

1:09:33

It may not have been for another 50 years,

1:09:35

but it might have been for another 20 years they would

1:09:37

have signed something.

1:09:39

And I, you know, quite frankly, we should. If

1:09:41

Trump gets elected, we'll see what happens because

1:09:44

there's a good chance that if he is elected

1:09:46

and he does resolve the Ukrainian thing and Goes

1:09:48

the way we hope it does, that

1:09:52

Saudi Arabia comes back around because they've

1:09:54

spent billions and billions of dollars

1:09:56

on us equipment for

1:09:59

war fighting, for

1:10:00

Oh, yeah.

1:10:00

35s everything else that they've purchased,

1:10:04

the reality is that they

1:10:06

can, if they just.

1:10:10

If they just try to abandon the U. S. dollar,

1:10:13

It will be very difficult for them

1:10:15

to handle, right? They can't just

1:10:18

abandon the dollar because if we stop

1:10:20

selling them, for instance, parts to the F 35,

1:10:23

They have not they've just thrown away

1:10:26

hundreds of billions of dollars.

1:10:28

When's the last time Saudi Arabia used

1:10:30

those sub 35s?

1:10:32

I mean, without the U. S., they might end up using them

1:10:34

more than they think.

1:10:36

I don't know, man. I think that Saudi

1:10:39

Arabia Like, who's trying to attack

1:10:41

Saudi Arabia? Maybe Iran? That'd

1:10:44

be about it.

1:10:45

You know, we'll see.

1:10:46

I, like 50 years ago, when

1:10:49

they were literally riding camels

1:10:52

and living in tents. And

1:10:55

I know I'm being slightly exaggerating here, but

1:10:57

it's, Saudi Arabia has come a long

1:11:00

way in 50 years. Technologically,

1:11:03

financially on the world stage,

1:11:05

all these things. And I think

1:11:07

the Saudi Arabia of today, their

1:11:11

needs for buddy

1:11:13

with the U S and especially

1:11:15

given the U S is current situation. Is

1:11:19

way smaller than it was 50 years ago.

1:11:23

Okay. I think the Middle East

1:11:25

is not a great spot

1:11:27

and. It's kind

1:11:29

of getting worse in

1:11:31

lots of ways.

1:11:33

It's always been that way. I don't think it's getting

1:11:36

worse. I think it's always been that way. It's

1:11:39

always been a hot potato.

1:11:42

We'll

1:11:43

dude, you go back to biblical times. It

1:11:45

was a hot potato.

1:11:46

I mean, to an extent. The the

1:11:49

Romans seem to have it under control.

1:11:51

Control is a relative thing. I don't think the Romans

1:11:53

did a whole lot when they occupied a land.

1:11:56

They basically said, keep practicing your own gods

1:11:58

you know, religions. Keep doing

1:12:00

everything, just swear allegiance

1:12:02

to Rome, and oh yeah, the taxes

1:12:05

you collect, we're gonna take half of those now. That's

1:12:08

it. I mean, Rome was pretty

1:12:10

damn non intrusive.

1:12:14

Yeah, tell

1:12:17

that to the Christians in the Coliseum, you

1:12:19

know.

1:12:19

They were Romans.

1:12:22

Okay, and?

1:12:22

That's their own citizens, dude. That's not

1:12:25

occupied territory, unless you're claiming that

1:12:27

somehow Christianity was occupied

1:12:30

by Rome in Rome. The

1:12:33

whole Christians in the Colosseum is bullshit anyway.

1:12:36

There were people at the Coliseum,

1:12:38

a percentage of them happened to be Christians.

1:12:42

There were lots of interesting

1:12:44

things that happened in the Coliseum, to

1:12:46

Yeah, there were lots of animals getting killed

1:12:48

there too. And we have

1:12:50

a lot of these records because they did keep very

1:12:52

good records. So

1:12:55

we can see like for which event,

1:12:58

what the orders were for how many

1:13:00

gladiators, how many elephants,

1:13:03

how many lions, how many whatever.

1:13:06

So we, we have pretty good records

1:13:08

to see what it is. And.

1:13:11

This idea that somehow that

1:13:13

Christians were the only ones getting sacrificed

1:13:16

at the Coliseum is utter nonsense.

1:13:19

I never said it was only Christians,

1:13:22

but you know, there definitely were quite

1:13:24

a few.

1:13:25

Yeah,

1:13:25

And the point is,

1:13:28

the Romans did

1:13:31

some shit that they probably shouldn't have

1:13:33

done.

1:13:35

everybody's done the shit they shouldn't have done. It's

1:13:38

pretty universal.

1:13:39

What are you admitting, Gene?

1:13:42

What am I admitting? I'm admitting that every

1:13:44

people have done shit in their past

1:13:46

that when you look back through the current lens,

1:13:49

you go Eh, I

1:13:51

don't know, man.

1:13:52

Did you see the latest anti Jew news?

1:13:55

No, I don't subscribe to that particular

1:13:58

feed. What'd you see?

1:13:59

Just Massey on Tucker talking

1:14:02

about his ADL

1:14:04

guy and how the ADL

1:14:07

has, congressmen have these

1:14:09

lobbyists Speed dial, et cetera.

1:14:11

And, you know, as

1:14:14

a result, everyone was really going,

1:14:16

ah, see the Jews.

1:14:18

Yeah, ADL is not Jews. ADL

1:14:20

is Democrats. ADL

1:14:23

is look, ADL is Jews,

1:14:26

just like the NRA is all

1:14:28

gun owners,

1:14:29

Exactly. That I can

1:14:31

You get that analogy. The

1:14:33

ADL has never represented

1:14:36

most of my friends who are Jewish. They're,

1:14:38

the ADL has always been

1:14:40

a very one

1:14:43

track organization. Again,

1:14:45

same thing for National Association

1:14:48

of Colored People, NAACP

1:14:50

does not represent black people. It represents.

1:14:53

A very Democrat

1:14:55

heavy politicized

1:14:58

thing that has the word colored

1:15:00

people in its name, but it

1:15:03

doesn't mean that's the actual purpose

1:15:05

of the organization. It's a,

1:15:09

you know, it's

1:15:12

a group that may at one

1:15:14

point have been based on something to

1:15:16

do with ethnicity, but

1:15:18

has long since evolved into

1:15:20

something that is basically a

1:15:23

Democrat focused agenda.

1:15:25

Uh, lobbying group. And

1:15:28

I've posted on, I've tweeted on X

1:15:32

lots of times in response to ADL

1:15:34

shit, basically saying ADL

1:15:37

doesn't represent the actual Jews in America

1:15:40

because a lot of people assume that it's got the word

1:15:42

Jew in the name that must be

1:15:44

like a, you know, the group, all the Jews belong

1:15:46

to. No, most Jews don't like the

1:15:48

ADL and

1:15:50

ADL incidentally, I guess it doesn't have

1:15:52

June the name. It's the anti defamation

1:15:54

league. Which is not what

1:15:56

the group does.

1:15:59

Did you go see the gay crosswalk

1:16:01

while you were in Seattle?

1:16:03

I was pretty close to it, but no

1:16:05

I did not. I did not, I saw videos

1:16:07

of it on you know, on YouTubes.

1:16:10

Yeah. The one in Spokane

1:16:12

keeps getting trashed, which

1:16:15

Yeah, I have a real problem

1:16:17

with that being a crime.

1:16:19

Not because of anti gay.

1:16:22

The fucking purpose of a publicly

1:16:24

paid for road Is

1:16:27

to have cars drive on

1:16:29

it. Decorating the

1:16:31

road and then giving out

1:16:33

felonies for people that

1:16:36

damaged the picture that

1:16:38

you put on the fucking road is

1:16:41

insane. This is literally like

1:16:43

children drawing shit on

1:16:45

the street with chalk

1:16:48

and then getting pissed that somebody

1:16:50

going home with groceries drove

1:16:52

over their chalk drawing and

1:16:55

ruined it. This is not

1:16:57

what it's for. It's like, you want to paint

1:16:59

something, go fucking buy

1:17:02

a piece of paper. Don't

1:17:04

do it on the street. That is insane. Plus

1:17:07

I don't want. Rainbows.

1:17:10

children, being, you know,

1:17:12

and lime scooters, putting

1:17:14

a geofence around it so you can't

1:17:16

drive there, which is just,

1:17:19

That, that is totally insane. And

1:17:22

cause that whole generation is children

1:17:24

and you've got I

1:17:27

don't want symbols of

1:17:29

any one group on

1:17:31

public property like that. I don't

1:17:33

want rainbows on the roads. I don't

1:17:35

want crosses on the roads. I don't

1:17:37

want stars of David on the road. I

1:17:39

don't want any. Islamic

1:17:42

shit on the road. I just don't want any

1:17:44

group symbology on

1:17:46

a public road. Don't need that shit.

1:17:49

It's a stupid place to put it.

1:17:51

Yeah. It should all be in

1:17:53

private sector. You want to have gay

1:17:55

churches? Fine. Have a gay church. Who cares?

1:17:58

well,

1:18:01

I mean, they're there whether you like it or not. It's

1:18:03

just the thing. Speaking of, I heard

1:18:05

a thing about how the the Southern Baptist

1:18:08

Association voted to start

1:18:12

getting rid of women, which is a

1:18:14

good step in the right direction for them.

1:18:15

I, I have a you mean women pastors.

1:18:17

Yeah. No, I okay. I

1:18:19

see how that sounded. I don't mean killing

1:18:22

women in the Coliseum

1:18:24

No, of course not. No, I mean they've

1:18:26

decided that you know, maybe pastors

1:18:29

really should be men as

1:18:32

God intended Preach

1:18:34

Preach.

1:18:36

I hate to say it and I really,

1:18:40

some people may be offended, but quite

1:18:42

frankly, biblical

1:18:45

Christianity is unpopular and

1:18:47

popular Christianity is unbiblical. what

1:18:51

you have to realize is there

1:18:53

are reasons and rationales. Whether

1:18:56

you think of the Bible as God's

1:18:58

word, or just a meme

1:19:01

that has been handed down and refined over,

1:19:03

you know, generations and millennia.

1:19:06

However you think about it, there's a fucking

1:19:09

reason for it. what

1:19:12

happens when we turn over, when

1:19:14

men become so weak that they turn over

1:19:17

leadership to This

1:19:20

is the society we get, and

1:19:23

it's problematic, and it's the weak

1:19:25

men's fault for having done

1:19:27

it in the first place. So,

1:19:30

I very much believe in Ephesians

1:19:33

5, very much believe that, You

1:19:36

know, you can only do

1:19:38

so much before you have to take it

1:19:40

back. And I think we're getting there.

1:19:43

Yeah,

1:19:44

I and here's the thing. The people

1:19:46

who are screaming the loudest and

1:19:48

worried the most about a

1:19:51

a handmaid's tale reality.

1:19:54

You're ensuring it, it is going

1:19:56

to be a retribution

1:19:59

of men

1:20:02

are going to snap and it's going to go the other

1:20:04

way. If we don't want it to snap and go

1:20:06

the other way, we need to, you know, actually

1:20:09

talk about equality and not just.

1:20:12

Everyone fighting for supremacy because right now

1:20:14

what we have is men have

1:20:16

given up a large

1:20:18

portion of their quote unquote

1:20:21

control. We've allowed

1:20:23

stuff to go away.

1:20:25

You know, we've let other

1:20:27

people take over. And as a

1:20:30

result, We are being

1:20:32

disenfranchised and put down,

1:20:34

right? The worst person in the world right now is a white

1:20:36

male. Okay? So,

1:20:40

what do you expect when you

1:20:42

then take on the supremacy angle?

1:20:45

There's gonna be a backlash eventually,

1:20:47

at some point in time. I

1:20:49

don't want to personally see a race. Boy,

1:20:52

do I see one coming at some point.

1:20:53

Yeah, and I think a lot of people

1:20:55

don't realize that when you have women

1:20:58

in positions of power it is

1:21:00

not because women

1:21:02

now have gotten abilities

1:21:05

that previous generations of women haven't

1:21:07

had. It is because

1:21:09

men have walked away

1:21:12

from their duties and responsibilities. And

1:21:16

the vacuum is filled with women. We

1:21:18

can put a little shiny

1:21:20

face on it and call it, you know, progress.

1:21:23

But the reality is there's a

1:21:25

reason that we've

1:21:28

had a hierarchical

1:21:30

male dominant society for

1:21:32

the last million years,

1:21:35

up until the last 50 or so.

1:21:38

There's a reason for it. It's not random. And

1:21:41

that reason has a lot to do with survival

1:21:43

of the species. And what we've done

1:21:46

right now is we've said, No,

1:21:48

we're going to deny that

1:21:50

evolution played any role whatsoever.

1:21:53

In having the society be

1:21:55

formed the way it is. We're going to rewrite

1:21:58

the books on society and

1:22:00

women are going to be in charge. Good

1:22:02

luck with that.

1:22:04

What it comes down to is And

1:22:06

this is, anytime

1:22:09

you stereotype, anytime you do anything like that

1:22:11

you're talking to

1:22:14

a average,

1:22:17

not the whole.

1:22:19

So what I mean by that is, if I say,

1:22:22

All women are X. What I really mean

1:22:24

is the majority of women are X and

1:22:27

this is how they're different, but some men are that way.

1:22:29

Some women are not, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

1:22:33

But what it comes

1:22:34

Yeah. There are women that are physically stronger

1:22:36

than some men. Like some women

1:22:38

overlap

1:22:39

some women that are more logical than

1:22:41

some men, but

1:22:44

Yeah. The Californian definitely proves

1:22:46

that rule as

1:22:49

a whole. What happens when you.

1:22:53

taking those small exceptions

1:22:55

and saying I'm going to apply that to

1:22:57

all women or all men. Is

1:23:00

you're basically just ignoring

1:23:02

reality and you're living in your own little

1:23:05

creative fantasy world. And, you

1:23:07

know, living in a fantasy world which doesn't

1:23:10

map properly to reality causes

1:23:12

problems for everybody.

1:23:13

This is why the right level of analysis

1:23:16

is always the individual, right?

1:23:19

And should some

1:23:21

people, should some women. Have

1:23:24

leadership potential and so on. Absolutely.

1:23:26

Think Joan of Arc, right? There

1:23:29

are those women in history who definitely,

1:23:32

Yeah, she was autistic.

1:23:34

okay. Regardless,

1:23:35

No, we have genetic proof now.

1:23:37

okay. Regardless, but,

1:23:39

and there are definitely men, I think

1:23:42

Henry the eighth that shouldn't

1:23:44

What's wrong with Henry VIII?

1:23:47

Really? How

1:23:49

I don't see a damn thing wrong with him. He

1:23:51

had a little gout that was problematic. But

1:23:53

other than that, seemed like a good

1:23:55

king. A fine king.

1:23:56

So?

1:23:57

He didn't kill his wife, did he? A

1:23:59

which one out of the six,

1:24:01

which one

1:24:02

he put her yeah, I mean, you put him away. That's

1:24:05

what covenant, goddammit, I can't

1:24:07

say the word.

1:24:08

You know, I, I'm going to

1:24:10

make my own damn church.

1:24:11

exactly. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot

1:24:13

to be said for that. I think that you

1:24:16

ever watch the HBO Henry days?

1:24:18

no, I didn't.

1:24:19

So they did one Early 2000s.

1:24:21

I thought they did a very good job because

1:24:24

unlike most of the productions of Henry VIII

1:24:26

that present him as this very

1:24:29

caricaturized kind of

1:24:32

Shakespearean character they

1:24:34

looked at it from the standpoint of What

1:24:36

would this guy have been in his youth

1:24:39

that would have made his, shaped

1:24:41

his character? And

1:24:43

they basically made him a total Chad.

1:24:47

You know, he was big, he was strong,

1:24:49

he was smart, he was very

1:24:52

popular with the ladies. You

1:24:54

know, he was a guy that basically,

1:24:57

Had a bunch of daughters, you know.

1:25:00

this is before the daughters, but

1:25:03

the point being that you know, Henry

1:25:05

the eighth is basically Elon

1:25:07

Musk.

1:25:09

Except totally more dictatorial

1:25:11

and lots of, like, okay, there's

1:25:13

lots

1:25:14

Elon Musk just got 50 billion

1:25:16

that his surfs, I mean, employees, it

1:25:19

voted in order to give them, and

1:25:23

I'm sorry, not employees that stockholders.

1:25:26

So basically people are just gave him money.

1:25:28

I just voted to give him more money. And

1:25:32

I incidentally, I'm all for that. I think he

1:25:35

deserves it. But you know, other than having

1:25:37

gout, I think you could make a lot of comparison with him

1:25:39

and Henry VIII. A

1:25:42

man who won't let simple

1:25:46

little petty things like it's been done that

1:25:48

way in the past stop him. He's definitely

1:25:50

an iconoclast. Anyway, I'll

1:25:53

get off my Henry VIII rant.

1:25:54

What else do we need to cover, Gene?

1:25:58

I'm sure there's plenty of things, because we've

1:26:00

been off the air for two weeks here

1:26:02

due to travel, but I don't know. I think

1:26:04

we've hit on a good number

1:26:06

of topics let me scroll, let

1:26:08

me do this, I'll scroll back through.

1:26:10

the Libertarian Party imploding

1:26:13

was definitely

1:26:14

Yeah, did we talk about that already or

1:26:15

did a little bit, but you know, Chase Oliver

1:26:18

getting the nomination

1:26:20

for the Libertarian Party. And

1:26:22

did you watch the TimCast Culture

1:26:24

War episode Friday? So

1:26:27

he had some, it was about the Libertarian

1:26:29

Civil War, and oh my god was it

1:26:31

unwatchable. Because

1:26:34

the people, and this is the problem I've

1:26:36

always had with the Libertarian Party the

1:26:39

people who join the

1:26:41

Libertarian Party are

1:26:44

not what I would call Libertarians.

1:26:46

And you

1:26:49

literally had this woman on there

1:26:51

saying that people should vote the

1:26:53

Libertarian ticket up and down, no

1:26:55

matter what, in order to preserve

1:26:58

the Libertarian party as a third party, which

1:27:01

is fucking asinine.

1:27:03

The fact that you would tell people to vote

1:27:06

a party line Libertarian,

1:27:08

it's just so anathema.

1:27:11

It's. And

1:27:13

she meant it. She was saying it 100%.

1:27:16

I don't think that party deserves to

1:27:18

be preserved as a third

1:27:20

I don't either. I'm done. I'm

1:27:22

done.

1:27:23

and as I've told you, I know in our conversations,

1:27:26

I was one of the guys that got it to be an official

1:27:28

third party. I was very heavily involved,

1:27:30

I actually ran for office myself. And

1:27:33

we managed to get the libertarian party

1:27:36

to pass that magic, whatever minimum

1:27:38

number it was on the balance of every election,

1:27:41

including presidential, that would get it to be a

1:27:44

minority party back in the nineties. And

1:27:47

at this point, I

1:27:50

just, I mean, the party has been kind of a joke

1:27:52

anyway, but it's beyond the joke.

1:27:55

It's actually a liability at this point.

1:27:57

I agree. But the good

1:27:59

news is that with the way

1:28:01

this quote unquote civil

1:28:04

war in the Libertarian party is playing out

1:28:06

the entire Mises caucus is going

1:28:08

for Trump. Like there, there is

1:28:10

no doubt in that whatsoever

1:28:12

at this point.

1:28:15

Yeah, it's pretty obvious. I, in

1:28:17

as much as I don't

1:28:19

think Trump will be the panacea

1:28:21

that a lot of people believe he

1:28:24

will be. I do think

1:28:26

that there is literally

1:28:28

nobody else to vote for, of

1:28:32

any party. I mean, there are no other candidates

1:28:35

to vote for other than Trump. And

1:28:38

he may still lose. And that's, I'm sticking to

1:28:40

that until election day. I think there's

1:28:42

still a pretty good chance that Democrats

1:28:44

will figure out a way to make Trump

1:28:47

lose.

1:28:47

I think the first step would be replacing

1:28:50

Biden with like a Newsome,

1:28:52

And I'm pretty sure they're going to do something like

1:28:54

that. The only question is, when

1:28:57

are they going to do something like that?

1:28:58

I think if they're going to do it, they have to

1:29:00

do it by nomination

1:29:03

time. They have

1:29:05

to.

1:29:07

What happens if the nominated

1:29:09

candidate dies before the election? Like

1:29:13

the officially nominated candidate.

1:29:15

Has that ever happened before? In a major

1:29:17

election?

1:29:19

it define major election

1:29:21

I mean, it doesn't have to be. Yeah. Have they been,

1:29:23

have there been, do they have dead people

1:29:25

elected? What happens in those cases?

1:29:27

Theoretically, dead people are elected and then

1:29:29

a governor or who, depending on state

1:29:32

law, gets to appoint, yeah.

1:29:34

So maybe that's what they want to do with him is just

1:29:36

have Biden win and then die

1:29:38

before he gets sworn in.

1:29:40

Yeah, but then you end up with

1:29:42

Yeah. But nobody wants that. Not even the

1:29:44

Democrats want

1:29:45

Yeah, so I don't see that. Now, if

1:29:47

you have one of the

1:29:50

things that could happen is because the way the

1:29:52

presidential race is

1:29:54

done, if Biden were to die,

1:29:57

you could have state legislatures

1:30:00

argue that they're not going to certify votes,

1:30:03

and then it could get thrown to a contingent election.

1:30:05

You could also have the

1:30:07

electoral college you

1:30:09

know, say, I'm going to be a faithless

1:30:12

elector and apply. Literally put

1:30:14

Hillary Clinton in if they wanted, doesn't really matter.

1:30:17

There are

1:30:18

Can you have two presidents

1:30:20

get elected at the same time? Yeah.

1:30:22

No.

1:30:24

What would prevent that?

1:30:26

The electoral college.

1:30:28

Yeah, but I mean, you can have the electoral

1:30:30

college be evenly split. Can't

1:30:33

you, there's no way to have them be

1:30:35

split.

1:30:36

there, there's no way. I mean, theoretically

1:30:39

if you had all faithless, electors,

1:30:43

you know, I don't know if there's an how

1:30:45

many electoral college votes

1:30:46

Yeah. Is that an even or an odd number? And is it

1:30:49

enough to just have one out

1:30:51

of the whole group to have that

1:30:53

winning majority? I guess I haven't looked into

1:30:55

it deep enough to really. No,

1:30:57

Yeah, there's 538

1:31:00

So there isn't even a number. So you could be split.

1:31:03

You, if you had faithless electors,

1:31:05

then potentially yes. But again,

1:31:09

the odds of that happening

1:31:11

is minuscule. And even if it

1:31:13

did, then it would be thrown to a contingent

1:31:15

election where the

1:31:18

Congress would vote by delegation

1:31:20

and the Senate would vote by member Congress

1:31:23

electing the

1:31:24

which would screw the Democrats. Yeah.

1:31:26

Theoretically, I mean, you know, it's by

1:31:28

delegation. So theoretically

1:31:31

you would hope that the Republicans would hold

1:31:34

it together, but maybe they don't, maybe they hate

1:31:36

Trump enough that they put in

1:31:39

Romney, you know,

1:31:40

Oh, God.

1:31:41

because at that point, once you get to that point,

1:31:44

Then you leave the country is what you do.

1:31:46

it will, but the point is the way we

1:31:48

work in a representative Republic.

1:31:51

So when you're voting, you're actually voting

1:31:54

for electors

1:31:57

and the party gets to choose the electors

1:31:59

because that's. The bullshit we've

1:32:01

allowed to have happened. It used

1:32:03

to be state legislatures that Now it's no longer

1:32:05

that way. So

1:32:08

the party appoints these electors. The

1:32:10

electors can technically vote however the fuck

1:32:12

they want. Now there are some state

1:32:15

laws that bind the

1:32:17

electors,

1:32:18

But they could still vote any way they want. They just

1:32:20

wouldn't be breach of state law.

1:32:22

Yeah.

1:32:23

And then the Congress, if it goes

1:32:25

to a contingent election in the Congress, the delegations

1:32:27

get to vote however they want.

1:32:30

I don't know, man. It's all I know

1:32:32

is that Anybody that's on the

1:32:34

anti China front. You gotta

1:32:36

realize that Chinese

1:32:39

government is having a field day

1:32:41

laughing at America

1:32:43

self destructing.

1:32:45

I, again, I, the, where

1:32:47

I have gotten to is

1:32:50

the only way out, the

1:32:53

only way out from total

1:32:55

collapse of the Is peaceful

1:32:57

divorce.

1:32:58

Yeah, it's basically, it's what I

1:33:00

said, which is the only thing you could do is leave.

1:33:02

It's just you want to leave and take your land with

1:33:04

you. Heh.

1:33:05

And what I think it comes down to is,

1:33:09

You have to either allow

1:33:11

people to go their separate ways,

1:33:14

or you end up in a true civil

1:33:16

war. that's, that

1:33:18

is what we're coming to. It's not that I want

1:33:20

that. It's, you know, did you ever

1:33:22

go back and actually read the post I put up?

1:33:25

yeah, I read it.

1:33:26

Yeah. I mean, that's, to me, where

1:33:29

we're at. It's, there, there is

1:33:32

You eventually get to the point of

1:33:35

good men who want to be left alone,

1:33:37

not being able to, Yeah,

1:33:40

man, it's not gonna go well.

1:33:43

Yeah,

1:33:43

Did you ever watch the movie the A24

1:33:45

movie, Civil War?

1:33:48

the what movie?

1:33:49

The Civil War movie with Kirsten

1:33:52

Dunst or whatever?

1:33:54

Oh no. I still haven't. Is that on,

1:33:57

streaming now, you can watch

1:33:58

Is it? Okay, yeah, I can I'll check it out.

1:34:00

But so many people have panned it that's kind

1:34:02

of made me less interested in it.

1:34:04

yeah and, you know, one of the things I'll say

1:34:06

is, I did watch it recently,

1:34:09

I wish I'd have seen it in the theaters, it would have

1:34:11

Really? Okay.

1:34:12

the, I will say two things, one,

1:34:15

they need to make a sequel that focuses

1:34:17

on the actual politics of the Civil

1:34:19

War,

1:34:20

Not reporters? Heh. A lot of

1:34:22

people have said that.

1:34:23

but two I think the infighting

1:34:26

and some of the stuff that it shows

1:34:29

It's actually pretty good. Like, it

1:34:31

has it's moments if you parse it out well.

1:34:34

But it does take parsing, you can't just

1:34:36

take it

1:34:36

Yeah.

1:34:37

the way it's presented and it'd be okay.

1:34:40

I just think that the I think it's

1:34:42

gonna be really hard for any

1:34:44

country to have

1:34:47

a splitting of territory

1:34:50

It's just, people don't want that

1:34:53

to happen. Who are in the

1:34:55

majority. That's always the case. Like the majority

1:34:57

does not want to have the minority split

1:34:59

off and the majority is willing to use

1:35:02

force to prevent that. That's

1:35:04

been true in every single instance

1:35:06

with the one sole exception of the breakup

1:35:08

of the Soviet Union. But

1:35:11

I think part of the reason that the Soviet Union was

1:35:13

able to break up like that was

1:35:16

because it was a totalitarian country.

1:35:19

I think we're pretty close

1:35:21

to his

1:35:22

So we're gonna have

1:35:22

here

1:35:23

We're gonna have to get a lot more totalitarian

1:35:26

before we break up if we want it

1:35:28

to succeed.

1:35:29

there is a hope of getting a melee

1:35:31

in U. S. that

1:35:33

Yeah. Which, you know, he's getting a lot of backlash

1:35:35

right now. There's a lot of protests right now

1:35:38

against Mali.

1:35:39

Eh, okay.

1:35:42

I like it. I like what they're,

1:35:44

what he's

1:35:45

No I do too. I'm just saying that it

1:35:47

doesn't represent, like,

1:35:49

a clear majority of the people. There's still

1:35:52

plenty of people that. Are

1:35:54

going to be negatively affected by what he's doing

1:35:56

that are very much against him.

1:35:59

That's why we're not a democracy is that

1:36:01

it comes down to this. We are not meant

1:36:04

to care at all what the

1:36:06

quote unquote, clear majority wants,

1:36:10

right? We're supposed to be a representative Republic

1:36:12

that takes the rights of the minority

1:36:15

as a guide post. And

1:36:19

the majority can go fuck itself. It does

1:36:21

not override the minority.

1:36:23

In a manner of ways, sure. But

1:36:25

I'm just saying from a practical standpoint,

1:36:28

push comes to shove. While

1:36:30

there are people that would certainly say good

1:36:32

riddance, Texas that dislike

1:36:35

Texas politics and be perfectly fine

1:36:37

with Texas leaving. The majority

1:36:39

of Americans consider