In this episode of Keep Talking about... community researchers talk about how creativity has helped the Keep Talking community researchers to stay connected, how sharing creative activities created a community of kindness and how creativity can help reach out and include people who are sometimes excluded from research. "It's not just about research, it's not just about set questions, it's about real life." Keep Talking is a UKRI Enhancing Place-based Partnerships for Public Engagement funded project, led by Staffordshire University in partnership with Expert Citizens CIC. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals taking part and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Staffordshire University or Expert Citizens CIC. Any content provided by those involved are of their opinion, and are not intended to malign individuals, groups or communities or cause offence. To this effect the topics discussed in this podcast may be upsetting for some listeners. Music credited to www.bensounds.com.