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And
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one story that always kind of captures my
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imagination.
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On the street's lost culture. Mhmm.
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And you're listening to Kerning cultures.
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You're earning cultures.
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And the question is where
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we were last time. Where
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we were last time. So I think
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you were
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Last time on Kerning Cultures, we left Aizen
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in Afghan teenager in Turkey attempting
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to cross into Bulgaria. He
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was beaten, strip naked, and
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ransacked of all his belongings. A
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warning before we continue, this episode
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contains references to violence and self
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harm. If you're around kids or you're
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not into that kind of thing, consider skipping
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this one. My
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other note too is that this is part
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three of a four part series. And
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if you haven't heard the first and second
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episode, I would go back and listen to
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those because it'll help you understand this episode
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a lot better. They
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said it's like nine hours walking, you would be
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in the Bulgaria. Thirteen days.
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Walk thirteen days. I don't know how it was,
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like, survive. People who want
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food, a lot of food, they
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finish
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everything. People are all dying.
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With such little sustenance and no turning
1:23
back, Aizen relied on this one drink
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that a lot of us have heard
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of. That's why I love Rick Paul,
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you know? You get tired.
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You drink one. Oh, energy.
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I don't know how you feel like, cool.
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I can walk more. After 234
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hours. Again, some
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refresh best thing
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ever. In case you miss
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that, it's none other than Red
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Bull. Before
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we go back into Isen's story, we're
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gonna go back in time. About
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a hundred years ago. And we wanna tell
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you about a guy named, Cedad You
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won't find much online about him, maybe
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a few photographs, but his story
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is mostly left behind by the digital
2:08
age. Harry
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Shaw was Afghan, born in eighteen
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ninety four, And as a young man
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in the nineteen tens, he left Afghanistan
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and traveled to Scotland where he studied
2:19
medicine at the University of Edinburgh.
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And back then, travel for an Afghan
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like Ali Shah was easier. He
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was admired and sometimes
2:28
even welcome. Imagine that.
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Adishan married a Scottish woman and
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became an author, writing more than seventy
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books, books on Islam, politics,
2:37
culture, and his travels. He
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was also a skilled diplomat, and
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he became the personal adviser and confidant
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of several leaders. Big time leaders
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like criminal attitude of Turkey, king
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of the love Jordan, king of insau,
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the founder of Saudi Arabia, king Zaga
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of Albania, the Agha Khan, the
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roster is quite impressive. He
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gained a reputation as a kingmaker, moving
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in royal circles, criss crossing Europe
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and the Middle East and Afghanistan. A
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hundred years ago, this kind of long distance
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travel was slow, but pretty straightforward.
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He would go overland from Afghanistan
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to Mumbai then catch a ship to Europe.
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Surprisingly and maybe unsurprisingly, a
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hundred years ago, borders were more permeable,
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and pliable. It was a time before
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we designed systems and hierarchy is
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controlling who can travel and who can't.
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And thinking about the legacy of Alisha
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and Afghan who had the opportunity to travel
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to get an education and even find love
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and gain influence. You can't
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help but think of modern day afghans,
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stripped of that chance to be someone renowned
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like Alisha. Today
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for afghans trying to get to Europe, the
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story is completely different. Fortress
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Europe, as it's often referred to,
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is building new fences and pouring
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more and more money into border patrols
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and militarizing its edges. And
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what a shame that is? Alicia
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died in nineteen two nine. He was
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hit by Kerning Coca Cola truck.
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Decades later, there would be Aizen, a
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teenager with a different kind of legacy,
4:14
and field of Horus by Red Bull.
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This is Aizen, the most unlucky
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person in the world. Part
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three, king of Serbia. Producer,
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Adrienne, takes it from here.
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It
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was May twenty nineteen and
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the middle of the holy month of Ramadan.
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After that first attempt to cross into
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Europe, Aizen tried again a
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couple of days later. With
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a group of about twenty five refugees,
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He walked through forests along the Turkish
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Bulgarian border to reach a
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point that wasn't monitored. Their
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they scaled two very high barbed
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wire fences using a ladder
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they're smuggler provided and got into
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Bulgaria.
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A really huge force. You
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cannot see like at night, you
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cannot see, like, ten centimeters
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of in your front.
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It's so dark. You have to
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hold your each other packs to
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to not lose the weight. And
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there's Yeah. He's
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in the front. He said to you from the
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beginning. If you stay behind, I'm
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not gonna come back.
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After thirteen days, the group was out
5:24
of food completely and relied
5:26
on streams in the forest for water.
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Then they were picked up by another smuggler
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who took them to a house where they were
5:33
told to hide and wait. They
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stayed there for two days. No
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food, no going out, just
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waiting, anxious about being
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caught by the Bulgarian border police.
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Finally, a smuggler brought them some sandwiches,
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We didn't eat for two days because they don't want the
5:52
police to catch us. The time that
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he brought us food, we took the food, he
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win the police game. Like
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how? So we know that he called the police.
6:00
Like, there's no other way. How
6:02
do the police know that we are here? Nobody go
6:04
out. Nothing. So we were inside
6:06
the city. We were all scared that they were sent us
6:08
back to Shuky. They took us to a police
6:10
station. They took fingerprints
6:12
and stuff. And he was
6:14
like, okay. Where are you from? I was
6:16
like, Afghanistan? And he was like,
6:17
no. Wow. Like, what do you mean?
6:20
No. Here we
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go again. Questions and confusion
6:24
about the way Aizen looks followed him
6:26
everywhere he
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went. He took me to
6:29
a room. He was like, no. He
6:31
looked rushing. He he speak rushing with me. I was
6:33
like, I'm like, what are you saying?
6:35
What are you talking about? Then
6:38
the guy says, oh, okay. Wait.
6:40
Call the translator. So the
6:42
translator was telling me that he's saying that he don't
6:44
look like transwear 3 Don't make trouble
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for me as well. I was like, what do you mean to make a
6:48
crown from a cancer? They
6:50
took our fingerprints and stuff. And
6:52
they took me to this open camp --
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Okay. -- in Soviet. The
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camp called Evinarampo. How
7:02
will you overcome?
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Vinerampa is on the northern
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edge of Sofia. The capital of
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Bulgaria. It's a refugee
7:14
center mostly for minors, and
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it was a grimy camp. The
7:19
food was particularly bad, bread
7:21
and boiled potatoes. And
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food was a particular challenge at this
7:25
time. Because it was Ramvan and
7:27
Aizen and some of the Muslim refugees he
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was with were fasting. Was
7:33
also particular challenge because just
7:35
like every place they've been in before, they
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weren't exactly welcomed.
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I went to this mask
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that Guevrie died for so
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it was a mask far away from the camp
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that Guevara How can people
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do the RevPAR? They come back? And we did
8:00
RevPAR. We came back.
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We're waiting in the bus stop like we had ten guys
8:05
or eight guys, nine. A
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group of five people came with
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knives, with chains, and
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stuff. I don't know what
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they were saying, so I was like, What do
8:15
you want? I was trying to speak English
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like what do you
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want? One
8:19
of these guys tapped Aizen on the shoulder
8:22
and pointed behind him. His
8:24
friends were all sprinting
8:25
away. So he attacked with
8:27
the knife. Like, the knife
8:29
went through my clothes, and it doesn't
8:31
touch my body. I was so lucky. I
8:33
like I don't know how this happened. I
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punched this guy in front. How how
8:40
already? They've old
8:42
born. Yeah, nineteen
8:44
twenty one, something like this.
8:46
Like, older than us. So I run this
8:48
site and they're all following
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me. It's hard to confirm these
8:51
details, but Eissen told me
8:53
that this group started attacking
8:55
him. One guy had a long
8:57
chain which he whipped in Aizen
8:59
direction. It wrapped around
9:01
his neck and pulled him down to the
9:03
ground. They start kicking me
9:05
with the with their
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feet, stand again
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crunch. Run. Run.
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Run. Run. Run. They're in following me.
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Oh, I don't have a run. I was so
9:17
quick. Like, I didn't even look
9:19
my back. If they are coming or they said,
9:21
phew. So when I look my back, I
9:23
can't see anyone. Oh, I'm good. And then I saw a
9:25
girl sitting there and I speak with her
9:27
English. Fortunately, she was
9:29
speaking English or, like, these guys attacked
9:31
me when you called the police, like, even if I called the
9:32
police, the police would not help the breeze standing there
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and I saw what happened to you. The
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spy stander took eyes into a shop
9:40
nearby, brought him some water, to
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wash the blood off his neck, and
9:44
told him to wait inside. Once
9:47
the bus that would take Aizen back to the
9:49
camp arrived, she told him to get on
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board
9:51
quickly. So
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we arrived to the camp.
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I still to the police. The police see. I
9:55
don't care. Or you lift the camp. Don't go
9:57
outside. Oh, like, I'm fasting. I'm
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going to eat there. What
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do you want me eating this candy? Like, I don't
10:03
care. And I
10:05
am so angry.
10:06
Like, so so angry. Won't
10:09
even talk to me. The
10:12
next morning, Aizen a
10:14
formal complaint to the local
10:16
police. The translator who
10:18
helped him write this said he was attacked
10:20
because he looked Russian and
10:23
advised him to stay inside the camp.
10:25
Despite how he described
10:27
that racist attack as
10:29
if it was a scene from an anime fight,
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Eisen was deeply affected by it.
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Assulted with knives and chains in
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a country where he was alone and didn't
10:38
know anyone. And whenever
10:41
things became tough, he would go back to
10:43
his first love football.
10:45
So I didn't go out of the camp because I
10:48
was kinda scared for two days.
10:50
After two days, my Finnish
10:52
friend came and say, oh, don't stay here a lot. He will
10:54
find Mandaril problem and stuff. Let's go play
10:56
football on a cookie. We go
10:59
outside, two
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guys, mouth in the hand. They're
11:03
looking at me and doing like
11:04
this. Here, I Aizen turn the
11:06
middle finger.
11:07
What the hell is wrong with you? I haven't done
11:10
anything. Then
11:12
I decide how that's
11:13
no. I don't understand my curiosity.
11:15
There's no way I'm staying my curiosity.
11:18
Like, the coolest guy was playing in a football team
11:20
Aizen Bulgaria, he said, you play good
11:22
stuff. We can go. We can do the
11:24
trade. And I'm sure they would accept
11:26
you.
11:28
Yeah. Yeah. I was happy with that. Okay.
11:31
If I can't believe it. When I see this, I was
11:33
like, no way I'm
11:35
staying in Bulgaria. There is
11:37
no challenge.
11:42
It's like a game of snakes and ladders.
11:44
Eitan had gotten so far, only
11:46
to be met by racism and xenophobia
11:49
that would take him back onto the
11:51
smugglers path.
11:52
But
11:52
this was a
11:53
reality for many refugees in Europe.
11:55
Ever since the peak arrival
11:57
of migrants from the Middle East in twenty
12:00
fifteen violence and
12:02
attacks on refugees have increased
12:04
sharply. He said the
12:06
worst racism he experienced was
12:08
in Bulgaria. And
12:10
so he decided to continue on towards
12:12
France. He stashed a few
12:14
cookies into his pocket from
12:16
Vina Rumpakamp. And with
12:18
five others headed to Serbia.
12:21
Being smuggled in Europe was no different
12:23
to being smuggled in
12:24
Iran. They hiked for
12:26
hours slapped in the forest, then got
12:28
crammed into a van. It
12:31
was first day of eat, it was secondary
12:33
of eat, I can't remember. We
12:35
arrived in the capital of Serbia
12:37
called Biligrat, a
12:39
place called Afghan park,
12:42
because there is a lot of Afghan.
12:45
We spent
12:48
the night kind in, walking around
12:50
and stuff. Tell morning, eight o'clock, we
12:52
go to this office, which
12:55
is for a few years, they register your name and
12:57
they send you to the cops. I went
12:59
to the office, say where you're from there.
13:01
Like, again, same for a question. Are you sure you
13:03
have gone? Like, what do you mean? I'm sure you
13:05
have gone? Of
13:06
course, I am. There
13:09
was a camp near in
13:12
Belgrade, but they killed
13:14
someone in the
13:15
camp, so they closed a company, they don't send anyone
13:17
to this camp. Instead,
13:19
they were planning to send Aizen to a camp
13:21
called Ciniza, which is
13:23
about four hours drive Southwest of Belgrade.
13:26
But the office decided to wait until a few
13:28
more refugees arrived, so they could
13:30
transport all of them together. So
13:32
Isan stayed in this registration office
13:35
for five
13:35
days. I started doing translation
13:37
for the embassy letter translation was on
13:39
holiday. So they all of the
13:41
office become my friend. All of the office.
13:43
Like, they just become friend with
13:45
me because I was doing this job with
13:46
him. A few
13:49
days later, The Kurdish guys
13:51
from Bulgaria, the ones he was
13:53
playing football with, also
13:55
arrived in Serbia. From
13:57
Afghan park, they went to the same
13:59
refugee registration office where
14:01
they were surprised to see Aizen working
14:03
and doing translation for the
14:05
Serbian authorities. Now that
14:07
there were more migrants, they got
14:09
taken to the town called Sionitza in
14:11
the southwest of
14:11
Serbia. Wow. Isen showed
14:14
me on the map. See, it needs
14:16
a
14:16
It's a really small place,
14:18
but people are muslim there. So
14:20
it's a it's a it's a small town.
14:22
Yeah. It's like a town.
14:24
Okay. So
14:26
we play football in
14:28
here. Nice.
14:29
It was nice. Not
14:31
nice, but good. Because I
14:33
was in York and stuff. So
14:37
after the break, traveling this
14:39
far starts to take its toll
14:41
on Isen. And the world starts to
14:43
shut down.
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Aizen didn't stay in that camp for very
15:45
long. After a few days, he
15:47
went up to the north of Serbia
15:49
to a town called Subautica on the
15:51
border with Hungary. Subautica
15:54
is a major hub for refugees.
15:56
The surrounding Red Anavat's
15:59
forest is less than a kilometer from the
16:01
Hungarian border. And
16:03
it looks like the aftermath of a music
16:05
festival. Camping tents, proppant
16:08
between trees and
16:10
trash spread across the muddy floor.
16:12
Crushed energy drink cans, water
16:14
bottles, cigarette but
16:17
plastic bags. As
16:19
of now, there are more than three thousand
16:21
refugees in and around Sibotica.
16:23
Hoping to cross into Hungary. After
16:26
that, traveling through the rest of the EU
16:28
becomes easier. It's known
16:31
as the Balkan route. And that's
16:33
where Eisen was. By that
16:34
point, he had traveled through five
16:37
countries already and more than seven
16:39
thousand kilometers.
16:41
There is no sense you will cross by yourself.
16:44
No chance. Even
16:46
if you do, every place is belonging to
16:48
a smucker. If they catch you,
16:50
you know, from their group, first,
16:52
they will beat you a lot. If they
16:54
are nice, they will leave you.
16:56
If they are bad, they will call
16:58
your family in black man trust for
17:00
money. If they're a bad button, they will just
17:02
kill you.
17:05
Choked between these ruthless smugglers and
17:08
violent border police. Refugees
17:11
paid large sums of money to
17:13
cross. In this case, either by clinging on
17:15
to the underside of a moving
17:18
train or by sneaking into the back
17:20
of a freight truck. Without
17:22
the driver noticing, and waiting
17:24
it out until the truck has crossed
17:26
the
17:26
border. The trains are coming different lanes.
17:29
It will try to Austria, to
17:31
Hungary, to Germany, different. I
17:33
we spent ten days. Nothing
17:35
came. And my legs get worse
17:37
and worse. The Smucker said, okay.
17:40
Go to camp because your legs are getting worse and
17:42
worse. But to get go back to the
17:44
camp. Seven days every
17:46
day, they give me this
17:47
serum, syrup, what you call it, The
17:49
water thing? Oh, the
17:50
ivy ivy dry.
17:52
Yeah. Everyday morning.
17:55
Everyday for seven days for
17:56
my legs. Yeah. It was
17:59
so bad. My feets were all
18:01
destroyed. My hands weak. That's how
18:03
we come to
18:03
you. Yeah. Eisen's
18:06
feet were infected, trekking through
18:08
all sorts of terrain, sleeping in
18:10
damn places, hiking without
18:12
proper shoes. He showed me pictures
18:14
of his feet, they were absolutely
18:17
ravaged with cuts, bug
18:19
bites, soars, bruises,
18:22
infected blisters. Back at
18:24
the CNITC camp, the doctors gave him
18:26
a strong course of antibiotics, alone
18:30
and with a very high fever. Eisen
18:32
stayed in that camp and waited for the
18:34
infection to pass.
18:40
Eventually, he went back to
18:43
Subartica and tried to cross again.
18:44
But when he
18:45
was paying the smuggler, a middle man took
18:47
the money and disappeared. There's
18:49
always a middle man to
18:52
go through. Even the smuggler
18:54
can get screwed by them. A
18:56
smuggler was absolutely furious.
18:58
Nothing to normalize. Aizen fault, you told me,
19:00
give money. Give money. But if he didn't pay to you, he's not
19:02
my fault. He was like, I don't know
19:04
what to do with you guys. You guys are not paying money.
19:06
So you were like torturing us for a long
19:09
time. Eitan was held
19:11
in a burnt out building near
19:13
the train tracks of Subautica.
19:15
The smuggler kept refugees there
19:18
temporarily while he arranged for them to
19:19
cross. But because he
19:22
couldn't pay his fee, the smuggler kept him
19:24
hostage for
19:25
months. It was there so long
19:27
that he started doing DIY
19:29
projects in that building,
19:31
bringing an extension cord and
19:33
fixing the
19:34
lights. He had no idea how long
19:36
he was going to be made to stay there.
19:38
And just like
19:39
in Turkey, Eisen found himself
19:42
working for a smuggler and gaining
19:44
their trust.
19:45
Yeah. There was nothing for me to do because they were not letting
19:47
me to go anywhere. Not letting me try. Not
19:49
letting me go, camp. If the
19:51
smart didn't need something, he called me.
19:53
Brittman, come down, and go get done, buy him
19:55
secret, bring food father, everyone.
19:57
And that wasn't my job. Did
19:59
he get mad? No.
20:01
He just bought me clothes. Sometimes he
20:04
bought me energy drinks. Kerning,
20:06
I woke up. He called me. He called me red man. He said red
20:08
man. Come here. I go to him.
20:10
He said, let's go to shop. When did the shop,
20:12
he bought me clothes. He said, he
20:14
won't hate I'm like, no. Fine. everything, and he
20:16
brought me back. He brought me shoes.
20:20
Okay. Thank you. So he brought me
20:22
everything. Like, he was so nice to
20:24
me. It was like my older brother because I don't have anyone. He Aizen
20:26
everything. Jesus. Yeah.
20:28
He was
20:29
nice to me, not
20:30
to alone. The smuggler
20:34
Aizen red man because of
20:36
his reddish
20:36
hair. It's a little odd to
20:39
hear this smuggler describes so
20:41
fondly. Like an older brother. I can't
20:43
help but notice how vulnerable Isen was.
20:46
He was a teenager by
20:48
himself without any support
20:50
or money. Ethan stayed
20:52
like this for half
20:54
a year. Eventually, the
20:56
smuggler realized he wasn't going to get
20:59
his money. And let go to
21:01
try to find his way to Hungary. He
21:03
said he'd even show him
21:05
how to do
21:05
it, but he didn't promise it would be
21:07
easy. So they let he let me try. I
21:09
try. They catch me. I come
21:12
back. Start Kerning every
21:13
night. Try try try
21:16
come back. Try come back. He showed
21:18
me the way one night. He go like this like
21:20
this. Every night goes there to another
21:22
place to drive the lorry in
21:24
trucks. Every time he tried
21:26
to cross into Hungary, the police
21:28
would catch him.
21:29
The Hungarian
21:30
border is closely guarded. It's
21:33
the entrance to the EU and Hungary's
21:36
current right wing government has made
21:38
it their priority to stop migrants
21:40
from crossing the border. Border
21:43
police have been accused of
21:45
systematic abuse against people on
21:47
the move. In twenty twenty
21:50
two alone, they've pushed back more than
21:52
two hundred thousand refugees from
21:54
Serbia, mostly avagans
21:56
and Syrians. Meanwhile,
21:59
Hungary has allowed in more than six hundred
22:01
and twenty thousand refugees from
22:03
Ukraine. Aizen
22:11
kept trying summer past
22:13
and autumn two. Winter came
22:16
again. He spent almost all of
22:18
twenty nineteen being held by
22:20
smugglers and failing to cross the
22:21
borders. It got
22:24
really cold. of cold that seeps
22:26
into your bones.
22:27
It happens in a time that the winter
22:30
came where, like, it's so cold the
22:32
train don't come a lot and
22:34
stuff. Okay, Rick van.
22:36
Time for you to go to come. Go
22:38
to come. Powerlessico. I ask him many times
22:40
before he say
22:41
no. He will skip.
22:45
Tired and defeated eyes
22:47
and decided to stop trying to cross into
22:49
Hungary and instead go
22:51
back to their refugee camp to rest for a while.
22:54
This was February twenty twenty.
22:56
The major developments in
22:58
China's coronavirus outbreak way.
23:00
Two major cities are now under lockdown
23:02
as China races to contain the mysterious
23:04
illness. And as the toll surges across the
23:06
continent, Europe the epicenter of the
23:09
COVID-nineteen crisis. And what
23:11
happened is? COVID-nineteen. The
23:13
virus has infected nearly six
23:15
hundred people in at
23:16
He cannot go outside the camp.
23:20
Stay in the camp.
23:23
Nothing changed. Sleep,
23:25
wake up, eat.
23:28
That was our routine on the
23:30
ramble, then come. Coke. To
23:32
rather than play cards. There's nothing
23:35
to
23:35
do, and also worry that what will happen
23:38
to
23:38
me. Ethan
23:42
stayed in Serbia
23:45
for more than a year. Remember
23:47
the group of refugees in Turkey
23:49
that he was guiding through
23:51
Istanbul? The ones that got stopped by police,
23:53
that group got deported back
23:55
to Afghanistan, then tried
23:58
again the same route. Through the
24:00
mountains of Iran, into
24:02
Turkey, and then Bulgaria,
24:04
and then Serbia. This
24:06
time, they made it all the way to
24:08
France. That whole time,
24:10
Isan Aizen stuck in Serbia.
24:12
He was there so long that
24:14
other refugees crowned him
24:16
king of Serbia. He said, this
24:18
is his land, and
24:21
he's not going anywhere. I
24:28
told you what happened to Isen's feet.
24:30
It was hard for him to walk, but
24:32
also to do what he loves most,
24:35
play football. The physical toll of
24:37
walking so far from home and
24:39
harsh
24:39
terrain, often beaten by smugglers
24:41
or border police. All of that
24:44
adds
24:44
up. But there's the invisible
24:47
tool too. A strong
24:49
warning that this next segment
24:51
includes mentions suicide and self
24:53
harm. Skip forward eight
24:55
minutes if you'd like to avoid
24:57
it.
24:59
My mental
25:00
health was, how can
25:03
I say, up?
25:06
From long time ago,
25:09
not the journey we're stuck.
25:11
The pressure of the family
25:13
are out of stress.
25:15
Lot of pressure in your mind. What I'm gonna do,
25:18
what will happen, what cannot happenable
25:20
can work. Like, you have to have a
25:22
way to help them. If you
25:24
don't, you're under pressure. Why you're not working?
25:27
Why you're sleeping? You're just born to
25:29
eat and sleep that's it. You're lazy.
25:31
You're like dead. You're like that.
25:34
Okay. I didn't
25:35
even try to to side in of Afghanistan
25:38
was not once two,
25:40
three times.
25:40
And I was so young, like, I now I
25:43
can remember I was, like, nine, ten years old
25:45
when I had afternoon. Let me see
25:47
how she
25:48
is. Should I do it? Should I not? And
25:50
I
25:50
remember I was so young. I put
25:53
a knife in here, and I
25:55
was like, push it.
25:57
But there's some things that come to your mind because
25:59
you get tired, you know. Like,
26:01
I was asking many times.
26:03
I was like, a lot that
26:06
why I burn. I didn't ask
26:08
you to bring me to
26:11
his
26:11
life. Like, if I can't, I
26:13
can't, but nobody cares. Still
26:15
the same thing. You
26:16
think people believe in mental health and
26:19
our garrison? And
26:22
even if
26:26
you tell
26:28
them, there's another reason for them to shout
26:31
that
26:31
you. So he don't want this. The
26:33
immense pressure from his family in
26:36
Afghanistan on top of the injustice
26:38
of going to adult prison for
26:40
a crime he didn't commit. It all contributed
26:42
to Isen's fragile and mental health. He
26:45
showed me his forearms where
26:47
he would self harm.
26:48
What is it? Yeah. That
26:50
these
26:50
cars where he cannot hit, which is
26:53
good. Where? In
26:55
here. Yeah. You cannot
26:56
see it. Right?
26:58
Because I had it here for a long time, but you cannot
27:01
see it. Eitan's already
27:03
fragile mental health only became
27:05
worse when he got on the road, and
27:07
the realities of being smuggled started
27:09
to sink in. Especially when most
27:12
of the time he was just waiting,
27:15
waiting, waiting, waiting, held
27:18
in terrible conditions. Day by
27:21
day, it was. You
27:23
you don't have anything to do. You just need to
27:25
stay in a room like a
27:27
prisoner. You cannot go out
27:29
because of the police, pressure
27:32
of a smuggler, when you're gonna pay, when
27:34
you're gonna do this, when you gotta
27:36
do that. He feel like
27:38
a he feel like a trust in this
27:40
world. Like he feel
27:43
he feel Aizen he
27:46
You don't enjoy eating, you don't enjoy talking
27:48
with people.
27:49
It's just the only thing that you
27:52
think about is that
27:54
why you are in this
27:57
world, why it is happening to
27:59
me. There are like eight billion
28:01
people. Why me? For
28:03
me, football was the only thing
28:05
that I could enjoy and forgot
28:08
everything, but sometimes when I was like in a
28:10
bad mood, even football was
28:12
like boring. Wanna do it.
28:15
The hopelessness really started
28:18
to
28:18
calcify. Add to it the
28:21
claustrophobia of lockdown. This
28:23
feeling of being unlucky started
28:25
to take
28:26
root. Aizen became convinced that
28:28
he was the source of the bad luck.
28:30
I am the
28:31
most unlike his person in
28:33
the war. I don't think
28:34
there's any medicine for
28:36
it. But it's actually
28:39
like something that sometimes my mind just totally
28:42
get How can
28:44
I say? Get get empty? Feel too
28:46
to empty. And I
28:48
feel like I cannot breathe.
28:52
I was like like this, like,
28:56
don't have anything else to do
28:58
in I start
29:00
Kerning. I
29:05
just wanna do
29:09
something to So I don't want anyone
29:11
to be with me in that
29:11
situation. That's why I was like, just want to
29:14
be alone. Put the blanket
29:16
on my head.
29:19
Aizen shared with me how he tried to
29:22
take his own life in Afghanistan and
29:24
in Turkey
29:25
too, and then again in
29:28
Serbia. I was planning to jump the building.
29:31
The main reason that stop
29:33
me from doing
29:35
suicide, the Nava's cause,
29:37
around. Otherwise, I would be honest.
29:41
Although, Ivan laughs it off now, I've
29:44
heard him when he was in one of those
29:46
few states. When his mind was
29:48
empty as he calls
29:48
it. The most recent
29:51
time
29:51
Isaac tried to self harm, he sent
29:53
a voice note on WhatsApp to
29:56
a friend. A couple of
29:58
days later, he told me about it and
30:00
played me that voice note. It's
30:02
one of the most difficult things
30:04
I've ever heard. You can just
30:07
hear Aizen and sobbing and
30:09
faintly whispering over and
30:10
over. I just want a normal
30:13
life. He doesn't remember sending it or
30:15
even playing it to
30:16
me. You play it for me?
30:19
Today. Yeah. I don't
30:21
remember. It's only
30:22
about as nipaling the voice mail.
30:24
When I hear the voice
30:27
mail, I
30:29
would like is
30:31
that actually me? You don't ask
30:34
question myself because I don't
30:37
really kinda
30:39
cry for a lot of things. Like,
30:41
even if I want to cry I can't,
30:44
like, if people die does not
30:46
make me sad or to make cry for
30:48
them because it's life all gone die one
30:50
day. But when I hear the voice, I was
30:52
like, is that me
30:54
crying? Which is
30:55
weird? Which made me really sad after I
30:58
was like, What's going on with
30:59
me? Isen has seen
31:02
so much of the ugly parts of our world.
31:05
Violence and death and
31:07
injustice, and pedophilia, and
31:10
injury. The physical and mental
31:12
extremes he's been through have left a
31:14
trail of debris that I can't even begin
31:16
to
31:16
comprehend. But these days,
31:18
he's doing better. Here, now
31:20
I'm final, Hamdala. And Hamdala,
31:22
for everything. I'm fine. Which
31:24
is good.
31:25
I don't get
31:28
like the way I used to, but I still
31:30
feel some blah
31:32
blah, which is
31:34
it's it's
31:34
fine. It's like. Yeah. I just don't want
31:36
to feel sad or angry. No.
31:40
Not
31:41
Kerning. Not hurt.
31:44
I
31:45
don't hurt myself now. Which
31:48
is good because I know how it feels when
31:50
you cannot live with Voll for a
31:52
long time.
31:56
I like it emotionally.
32:01
Yeah.
32:02
I was close to crying by stop,
32:05
not crying.
32:09
Honestly, but it doesn't look great. More
32:16
than a year
32:19
after Isen arrived in Serbia
32:21
in June of twenty twenty,
32:24
COVID restrictions lifted slightly. When that
32:27
happened, he took the first opportunity
32:29
to go back to Subodhika, near the
32:31
Hungarian
32:31
border, hoping to cross.
32:35
There, the same smuggler was still
32:36
working. Eisen explained
32:39
how they'd scout trucks waiting at
32:42
border for their specific time to cross into Hungary.
32:44
The drivers were drunk
32:46
or asleep or both
32:49
waiting for their slot. The
32:51
smuggler would look for the trucks that they
32:53
can open easily. Even if they
32:55
made some noise, the drivers are often
32:57
too drunk or out of it
33:00
to notice. He'd open the
33:02
back of a truck, check if he can
33:04
hide refugees inside, and then close
33:06
it and lock it again. Super
33:08
gluing the cables to hide the evidence
33:10
of any cut
33:10
marks. He was
33:12
like, Brickman, just tonight, go please for
33:14
me. I was like, I'm right. I need to sleep. I
33:16
was so tired
33:17
sleepy. I was like, he was like, please for me.
33:20
He opened his back. Get me to rid what?
33:22
Drink this. He was fine.
33:23
So after a few tries,
33:25
they found a truck with a sleeping driver that they
33:28
opened. We opened full
33:30
of tires, all tires,
33:33
like huge tires You were
33:35
like, Rich man, this is the best chance. Like,
33:37
okay. We put all the guys in. And I
33:40
was going to close the door. He was like, why the
33:42
hell you're closing the door? Go inside. I'm like,
33:44
I'm tired. He slapped me, say,
33:46
go inside. So he locked the door. He
33:48
used energy. The driver woke
33:50
up. He was with
33:52
a girl. So to travel with the
33:54
girl, they start having sex, which was so
33:56
weak. I was so
33:58
tired. There was
34:00
five six o'clock in the morning. So I put my jacket on
34:02
my top and I said, I'm going to sleep.
34:06
I slipped. It
34:08
was nine o'clock or ten o'clock, my
34:10
friends say, woke up like this. Like
34:12
woke up. With cross, I was
34:15
like, oh, you might. See how
34:17
we
34:17
cross. We go. Go go go
34:19
one country and another
34:22
country.
34:23
Eisen had gotten away with
34:26
it. After a few
34:28
hours, the police stopped the truck
34:30
and pulled everyone onto the side of
34:32
the road.
34:33
We do know where
34:35
we are. They say, they ask us, do you know
34:37
where we are? Like,
34:38
no. You say you're in Czech Republic.
34:41
I was like, booking. Isen,
34:44
the king of
34:46
Serbia finally crossed into the EU,
34:49
and was in the Republic. He made it
34:52
into Fortress Europe.
34:54
From here, the EU is more relaxed
34:58
border policies. Meant that they could
35:00
pass from one country to another more easily. No ladders,
35:02
over barbed wire
35:03
fences, no border police hunting them
35:05
with sniffer dogs.
35:08
He didn't even need
35:10
a smuggler. Isen could finally get
35:11
to France. Remember, he
35:13
had planned for his journey to take
35:16
three months. Two
35:18
years later, and he was only in Czech
35:19
Republic. We did
35:21
try to interview the smuggler in
35:23
Serbia for the series. But
35:25
he was incredibly difficult to pin
35:28
down. He no longer deals in
35:30
human trafficking. He's actually
35:32
living in
35:34
Switzerland. And gets in touch with Isen from time to time through
35:36
temporary Facebook accounts to remind
35:38
him that he still owed two thousand
35:42
euros. Next time on current cultures,
35:44
there's love and sorcery in
35:48
the air.
35:55
Anyway, I sent him some
35:58
sweets because Yeah. It's
36:00
nice. Nobody nobody knew
36:04
for Halloween
36:06
will be arrested. So, yes. For for the
36:08
first contact, I just wanted to show
36:10
him, I mean it
36:11
seriously, irrelevant to
36:14
health. This episode
36:16
was produced by Al Shibani and edited by Alex Etac
36:18
and me, Dana Baluut. Fact checking
36:21
was by Imman Shahidiv and
36:24
Dana Subree. And sound design was
36:26
by Monzil Hashem and Paul Aloof. Our team also includes Zena
36:28
Deweydaiad, Nadine
36:29
Schackett, and Finbar
36:32
Anderson. A special
36:33
thanks to Tahir Shah, the grandson of
36:36
Cesar Equa Alisha, for sharing
36:38
details about his grandfather
36:40
with us. And thank you to Anton for his
36:42
production support. Thank you for
36:44
listening. We'll see you next week.
36:46
Take care.
36:47
Okay. What are
36:51
you gonna do
36:54
now?
36:55
Yeah. Three
36:57
the -- Okay. --
36:59
by the way. Yeah. I'm
37:01
dead not alone.
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