Podchaser Logo
Home
Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Released Thursday, 2nd February 2023
Good episode? Give it some love!
Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Aizen – Part 3: King of Serbia

Thursday, 2nd February 2023
Good episode? Give it some love!
Rate Episode

Episode Transcript

Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.

Use Ctrl + F to search

0:04

And

0:05

one story that always kind of captures my

0:07

imagination.

0:10

On the street's lost culture. Mhmm.

0:12

And you're listening to Kerning cultures.

0:15

You're earning cultures.

0:20

And the question is where

0:22

we were last time. Where

0:24

we were last time. So I think

0:26

you were

0:29

Last time on Kerning Cultures, we left Aizen

0:31

in Afghan teenager in Turkey attempting

0:33

to cross into Bulgaria. He

0:36

was beaten, strip naked, and

0:38

ransacked of all his belongings. A

0:41

warning before we continue, this episode

0:43

contains references to violence and self

0:46

harm. If you're around kids or you're

0:48

not into that kind of thing, consider skipping

0:50

this one. My

0:52

other note too is that this is part

0:54

three of a four part series. And

0:56

if you haven't heard the first and second

0:58

episode, I would go back and listen to

1:00

those because it'll help you understand this episode

1:02

a lot better. They

1:05

said it's like nine hours walking, you would be

1:07

in the Bulgaria. Thirteen days.

1:10

Walk thirteen days. I don't know how it was,

1:12

like, survive. People who want

1:15

food, a lot of food, they

1:17

finish

1:17

everything. People are all dying.

1:21

With such little sustenance and no turning

1:23

back, Aizen relied on this one drink

1:26

that a lot of us have heard

1:27

of. That's why I love Rick Paul,

1:29

you know? You get tired.

1:32

You drink one. Oh, energy.

1:34

I don't know how you feel like, cool.

1:37

I can walk more. After 234

1:39

hours. Again, some

1:42

refresh best thing

1:44

ever. In case you miss

1:46

that, it's none other than Red

1:48

Bull. Before

1:52

we go back into Isen's story, we're

1:54

gonna go back in time. About

1:56

a hundred years ago. And we wanna tell

1:58

you about a guy named, Cedad You

2:02

won't find much online about him, maybe

2:04

a few photographs, but his story

2:06

is mostly left behind by the digital

2:08

age. Harry

2:10

Shaw was Afghan, born in eighteen

2:12

ninety four, And as a young man

2:15

in the nineteen tens, he left Afghanistan

2:17

and traveled to Scotland where he studied

2:19

medicine at the University of Edinburgh.

2:21

And back then, travel for an Afghan

2:23

like Ali Shah was easier. He

2:26

was admired and sometimes

2:28

even welcome. Imagine that.

2:31

Adishan married a Scottish woman and

2:33

became an author, writing more than seventy

2:35

books, books on Islam, politics,

2:37

culture, and his travels. He

2:40

was also a skilled diplomat, and

2:42

he became the personal adviser and confidant

2:44

of several leaders. Big time leaders

2:47

like criminal attitude of Turkey, king

2:49

of the love Jordan, king of insau,

2:51

the founder of Saudi Arabia, king Zaga

2:53

of Albania, the Agha Khan, the

2:55

roster is quite impressive. He

2:58

gained a reputation as a kingmaker, moving

3:00

in royal circles, criss crossing Europe

3:03

and the Middle East and Afghanistan. A

3:05

hundred years ago, this kind of long distance

3:07

travel was slow, but pretty straightforward.

3:10

He would go overland from Afghanistan

3:12

to Mumbai then catch a ship to Europe.

3:16

Surprisingly and maybe unsurprisingly, a

3:18

hundred years ago, borders were more permeable,

3:21

and pliable. It was a time before

3:23

we designed systems and hierarchy is

3:25

controlling who can travel and who can't.

3:29

And thinking about the legacy of Alisha

3:31

and Afghan who had the opportunity to travel

3:34

to get an education and even find love

3:36

and gain influence. You can't

3:38

help but think of modern day afghans,

3:40

stripped of that chance to be someone renowned

3:43

like Alisha. Today

3:45

for afghans trying to get to Europe, the

3:47

story is completely different. Fortress

3:51

Europe, as it's often referred to,

3:53

is building new fences and pouring

3:55

more and more money into border patrols

3:57

and militarizing its edges. And

4:01

what a shame that is? Alicia

4:04

died in nineteen two nine. He was

4:06

hit by Kerning Coca Cola truck.

4:09

Decades later, there would be Aizen, a

4:11

teenager with a different kind of legacy,

4:14

and field of Horus by Red Bull.

4:17

This is Aizen, the most unlucky

4:19

person in the world. Part

4:21

three, king of Serbia. Producer,

4:25

Adrienne, takes it from here.

4:27

It

4:28

was May twenty nineteen and

4:31

the middle of the holy month of Ramadan.

4:33

After that first attempt to cross into

4:35

Europe, Aizen tried again a

4:37

couple of days later. With

4:39

a group of about twenty five refugees,

4:42

He walked through forests along the Turkish

4:44

Bulgarian border to reach a

4:46

point that wasn't monitored. Their

4:49

they scaled two very high barbed

4:51

wire fences using a ladder

4:53

they're smuggler provided and got into

4:55

Bulgaria.

4:58

A really huge force. You

5:00

cannot see like at night, you

5:02

cannot see, like, ten centimeters

5:04

of in your front.

5:07

It's so dark. You have to

5:09

hold your each other packs to

5:11

to not lose the weight. And

5:13

there's Yeah. He's

5:15

in the front. He said to you from the

5:17

beginning. If you stay behind, I'm

5:19

not gonna come back.

5:21

After thirteen days, the group was out

5:24

of food completely and relied

5:26

on streams in the forest for water.

5:29

Then they were picked up by another smuggler

5:31

who took them to a house where they were

5:33

told to hide and wait. They

5:36

stayed there for two days. No

5:38

food, no going out, just

5:40

waiting, anxious about being

5:42

caught by the Bulgarian border police.

5:45

Finally, a smuggler brought them some sandwiches,

5:49

We didn't eat for two days because they don't want the

5:52

police to catch us. The time that

5:54

he brought us food, we took the food, he

5:56

win the police game. Like

5:58

how? So we know that he called the police.

6:00

Like, there's no other way. How

6:02

do the police know that we are here? Nobody go

6:04

out. Nothing. So we were inside

6:06

the city. We were all scared that they were sent us

6:08

back to Shuky. They took us to a police

6:10

station. They took fingerprints

6:12

and stuff. And he was

6:14

like, okay. Where are you from? I was

6:16

like, Afghanistan? And he was like,

6:17

no. Wow. Like, what do you mean?

6:20

No. Here we

6:22

go again. Questions and confusion

6:24

about the way Aizen looks followed him

6:26

everywhere he

6:27

went. He took me to

6:29

a room. He was like, no. He

6:31

looked rushing. He he speak rushing with me. I was

6:33

like, I'm like, what are you saying?

6:35

What are you talking about? Then

6:38

the guy says, oh, okay. Wait.

6:40

Call the translator. So the

6:42

translator was telling me that he's saying that he don't

6:44

look like transwear 3 Don't make trouble

6:46

for me as well. I was like, what do you mean to make a

6:48

crown from a cancer? They

6:50

took our fingerprints and stuff. And

6:52

they took me to this open camp --

6:55

Okay. -- in Soviet. The

6:57

camp called Evinarampo. How

7:02

will you overcome?

7:07

Vinerampa is on the northern

7:10

edge of Sofia. The capital of

7:12

Bulgaria. It's a refugee

7:14

center mostly for minors, and

7:16

it was a grimy camp. The

7:19

food was particularly bad, bread

7:21

and boiled potatoes. And

7:23

food was a particular challenge at this

7:25

time. Because it was Ramvan and

7:27

Aizen and some of the Muslim refugees he

7:29

was with were fasting. Was

7:33

also particular challenge because just

7:35

like every place they've been in before, they

7:37

weren't exactly welcomed.

7:50

I went to this mask

7:52

that Guevrie died for so

7:54

it was a mask far away from the camp

7:56

that Guevara How can people

7:58

do the RevPAR? They come back? And we did

8:00

RevPAR. We came back.

8:03

We're waiting in the bus stop like we had ten guys

8:05

or eight guys, nine. A

8:07

group of five people came with

8:09

knives, with chains, and

8:11

stuff. I don't know what

8:13

they were saying, so I was like, What do

8:15

you want? I was trying to speak English

8:17

like what do you

8:18

want? One

8:19

of these guys tapped Aizen on the shoulder

8:22

and pointed behind him. His

8:24

friends were all sprinting

8:25

away. So he attacked with

8:27

the knife. Like, the knife

8:29

went through my clothes, and it doesn't

8:31

touch my body. I was so lucky. I

8:33

like I don't know how this happened. I

8:36

punched this guy in front. How how

8:40

already? They've old

8:42

born. Yeah, nineteen

8:44

twenty one, something like this.

8:46

Like, older than us. So I run this

8:48

site and they're all following

8:49

me. It's hard to confirm these

8:51

details, but Eissen told me

8:53

that this group started attacking

8:55

him. One guy had a long

8:57

chain which he whipped in Aizen

8:59

direction. It wrapped around

9:01

his neck and pulled him down to the

9:03

ground. They start kicking me

9:05

with the with their

9:07

feet, stand again

9:09

crunch. Run. Run.

9:12

Run. Run. Run. They're in following me.

9:15

Oh, I don't have a run. I was so

9:17

quick. Like, I didn't even look

9:19

my back. If they are coming or they said,

9:21

phew. So when I look my back, I

9:23

can't see anyone. Oh, I'm good. And then I saw a

9:25

girl sitting there and I speak with her

9:27

English. Fortunately, she was

9:29

speaking English or, like, these guys attacked

9:31

me when you called the police, like, even if I called the

9:32

police, the police would not help the breeze standing there

9:35

and I saw what happened to you. The

9:37

spy stander took eyes into a shop

9:40

nearby, brought him some water, to

9:42

wash the blood off his neck, and

9:44

told him to wait inside. Once

9:47

the bus that would take Aizen back to the

9:49

camp arrived, she told him to get on

9:51

board

9:51

quickly. So

9:51

we arrived to the camp.

9:53

I still to the police. The police see. I

9:55

don't care. Or you lift the camp. Don't go

9:57

outside. Oh, like, I'm fasting. I'm

9:59

going to eat there. What

10:01

do you want me eating this candy? Like, I don't

10:03

care. And I

10:05

am so angry.

10:06

Like, so so angry. Won't

10:09

even talk to me. The

10:12

next morning, Aizen a

10:14

formal complaint to the local

10:16

police. The translator who

10:18

helped him write this said he was attacked

10:20

because he looked Russian and

10:23

advised him to stay inside the camp.

10:25

Despite how he described

10:27

that racist attack as

10:29

if it was a scene from an anime fight,

10:32

Eisen was deeply affected by it.

10:34

Assulted with knives and chains in

10:36

a country where he was alone and didn't

10:38

know anyone. And whenever

10:41

things became tough, he would go back to

10:43

his first love football.

10:45

So I didn't go out of the camp because I

10:48

was kinda scared for two days.

10:50

After two days, my Finnish

10:52

friend came and say, oh, don't stay here a lot. He will

10:54

find Mandaril problem and stuff. Let's go play

10:56

football on a cookie. We go

10:59

outside, two

11:01

guys, mouth in the hand. They're

11:03

looking at me and doing like

11:04

this. Here, I Aizen turn the

11:06

middle finger.

11:07

What the hell is wrong with you? I haven't done

11:10

anything. Then

11:12

I decide how that's

11:13

no. I don't understand my curiosity.

11:15

There's no way I'm staying my curiosity.

11:18

Like, the coolest guy was playing in a football team

11:20

Aizen Bulgaria, he said, you play good

11:22

stuff. We can go. We can do the

11:24

trade. And I'm sure they would accept

11:26

you.

11:28

Yeah. Yeah. I was happy with that. Okay.

11:31

If I can't believe it. When I see this, I was

11:33

like, no way I'm

11:35

staying in Bulgaria. There is

11:37

no challenge.

11:42

It's like a game of snakes and ladders.

11:44

Eitan had gotten so far, only

11:46

to be met by racism and xenophobia

11:49

that would take him back onto the

11:51

smugglers path.

11:52

But

11:52

this was a

11:53

reality for many refugees in Europe.

11:55

Ever since the peak arrival

11:57

of migrants from the Middle East in twenty

12:00

fifteen violence and

12:02

attacks on refugees have increased

12:04

sharply. He said the

12:06

worst racism he experienced was

12:08

in Bulgaria. And

12:10

so he decided to continue on towards

12:12

France. He stashed a few

12:14

cookies into his pocket from

12:16

Vina Rumpakamp. And with

12:18

five others headed to Serbia.

12:21

Being smuggled in Europe was no different

12:23

to being smuggled in

12:24

Iran. They hiked for

12:26

hours slapped in the forest, then got

12:28

crammed into a van. It

12:31

was first day of eat, it was secondary

12:33

of eat, I can't remember. We

12:35

arrived in the capital of Serbia

12:37

called Biligrat, a

12:39

place called Afghan park,

12:42

because there is a lot of Afghan.

12:45

We spent

12:48

the night kind in, walking around

12:50

and stuff. Tell morning, eight o'clock, we

12:52

go to this office, which

12:55

is for a few years, they register your name and

12:57

they send you to the cops. I went

12:59

to the office, say where you're from there.

13:01

Like, again, same for a question. Are you sure you

13:03

have gone? Like, what do you mean? I'm sure you

13:05

have gone? Of

13:06

course, I am. There

13:09

was a camp near in

13:12

Belgrade, but they killed

13:14

someone in the

13:15

camp, so they closed a company, they don't send anyone

13:17

to this camp. Instead,

13:19

they were planning to send Aizen to a camp

13:21

called Ciniza, which is

13:23

about four hours drive Southwest of Belgrade.

13:26

But the office decided to wait until a few

13:28

more refugees arrived, so they could

13:30

transport all of them together. So

13:32

Isan stayed in this registration office

13:35

for five

13:35

days. I started doing translation

13:37

for the embassy letter translation was on

13:39

holiday. So they all of the

13:41

office become my friend. All of the office.

13:43

Like, they just become friend with

13:45

me because I was doing this job with

13:46

him. A few

13:49

days later, The Kurdish guys

13:51

from Bulgaria, the ones he was

13:53

playing football with, also

13:55

arrived in Serbia. From

13:57

Afghan park, they went to the same

13:59

refugee registration office where

14:01

they were surprised to see Aizen working

14:03

and doing translation for the

14:05

Serbian authorities. Now that

14:07

there were more migrants, they got

14:09

taken to the town called Sionitza in

14:11

the southwest of

14:11

Serbia. Wow. Isen showed

14:14

me on the map. See, it needs

14:16

a

14:16

It's a really small place,

14:18

but people are muslim there. So

14:20

it's a it's a it's a small town.

14:22

Yeah. It's like a town.

14:24

Okay. So

14:26

we play football in

14:28

here. Nice.

14:29

It was nice. Not

14:31

nice, but good. Because I

14:33

was in York and stuff. So

14:37

after the break, traveling this

14:39

far starts to take its toll

14:41

on Isen. And the world starts to

14:43

shut down.

14:55

Now a word from our sponsor better

14:57

help. There are plenty of ways to

14:59

support a healthy brain, like

15:01

learning a new language, going

15:03

for a run, or taking power

15:05

naps. There's also better

15:07

help online therapy. Better

15:09

help is an online therapy that offers

15:12

video phone and chat only

15:14

therapy sessions. Chatting

15:16

like if you don't wanna see anyone that

15:18

day, which I often don't,

15:20

then you don't have to. It's much more

15:22

affordable than in person therapy. And you can

15:24

be matched with a therapist in

15:26

less than two days. Our listeners get

15:28

ten percent off their first month at

15:30

betterhelp dot com slash

15:32

k c. That's better HELP

15:34

dot com slash k c.

15:42

Aizen didn't stay in that camp for very

15:45

long. After a few days, he

15:47

went up to the north of Serbia

15:49

to a town called Subautica on the

15:51

border with Hungary. Subautica

15:54

is a major hub for refugees.

15:56

The surrounding Red Anavat's

15:59

forest is less than a kilometer from the

16:01

Hungarian border. And

16:03

it looks like the aftermath of a music

16:05

festival. Camping tents, proppant

16:08

between trees and

16:10

trash spread across the muddy floor.

16:12

Crushed energy drink cans, water

16:14

bottles, cigarette but

16:17

plastic bags. As

16:19

of now, there are more than three thousand

16:21

refugees in and around Sibotica.

16:23

Hoping to cross into Hungary. After

16:26

that, traveling through the rest of the EU

16:28

becomes easier. It's known

16:31

as the Balkan route. And that's

16:33

where Eisen was. By that

16:34

point, he had traveled through five

16:37

countries already and more than seven

16:39

thousand kilometers.

16:41

There is no sense you will cross by yourself.

16:44

No chance. Even

16:46

if you do, every place is belonging to

16:48

a smucker. If they catch you,

16:50

you know, from their group, first,

16:52

they will beat you a lot. If they

16:54

are nice, they will leave you.

16:56

If they are bad, they will call

16:58

your family in black man trust for

17:00

money. If they're a bad button, they will just

17:02

kill you.

17:05

Choked between these ruthless smugglers and

17:08

violent border police. Refugees

17:11

paid large sums of money to

17:13

cross. In this case, either by clinging on

17:15

to the underside of a moving

17:18

train or by sneaking into the back

17:20

of a freight truck. Without

17:22

the driver noticing, and waiting

17:24

it out until the truck has crossed

17:26

the

17:26

border. The trains are coming different lanes.

17:29

It will try to Austria, to

17:31

Hungary, to Germany, different. I

17:33

we spent ten days. Nothing

17:35

came. And my legs get worse

17:37

and worse. The Smucker said, okay.

17:40

Go to camp because your legs are getting worse and

17:42

worse. But to get go back to the

17:44

camp. Seven days every

17:46

day, they give me this

17:47

serum, syrup, what you call it, The

17:49

water thing? Oh, the

17:50

ivy ivy dry.

17:52

Yeah. Everyday morning.

17:55

Everyday for seven days for

17:56

my legs. Yeah. It was

17:59

so bad. My feets were all

18:01

destroyed. My hands weak. That's how

18:03

we come to

18:03

you. Yeah. Eisen's

18:06

feet were infected, trekking through

18:08

all sorts of terrain, sleeping in

18:10

damn places, hiking without

18:12

proper shoes. He showed me pictures

18:14

of his feet, they were absolutely

18:17

ravaged with cuts, bug

18:19

bites, soars, bruises,

18:22

infected blisters. Back at

18:24

the CNITC camp, the doctors gave him

18:26

a strong course of antibiotics, alone

18:30

and with a very high fever. Eisen

18:32

stayed in that camp and waited for the

18:34

infection to pass.

18:40

Eventually, he went back to

18:43

Subartica and tried to cross again.

18:44

But when he

18:45

was paying the smuggler, a middle man took

18:47

the money and disappeared. There's

18:49

always a middle man to

18:52

go through. Even the smuggler

18:54

can get screwed by them. A

18:56

smuggler was absolutely furious.

18:58

Nothing to normalize. Aizen fault, you told me,

19:00

give money. Give money. But if he didn't pay to you, he's not

19:02

my fault. He was like, I don't know

19:04

what to do with you guys. You guys are not paying money.

19:06

So you were like torturing us for a long

19:09

time. Eitan was held

19:11

in a burnt out building near

19:13

the train tracks of Subautica.

19:15

The smuggler kept refugees there

19:18

temporarily while he arranged for them to

19:19

cross. But because he

19:22

couldn't pay his fee, the smuggler kept him

19:24

hostage for

19:25

months. It was there so long

19:27

that he started doing DIY

19:29

projects in that building,

19:31

bringing an extension cord and

19:33

fixing the

19:34

lights. He had no idea how long

19:36

he was going to be made to stay there.

19:38

And just like

19:39

in Turkey, Eisen found himself

19:42

working for a smuggler and gaining

19:44

their trust.

19:45

Yeah. There was nothing for me to do because they were not letting

19:47

me to go anywhere. Not letting me try. Not

19:49

letting me go, camp. If the

19:51

smart didn't need something, he called me.

19:53

Brittman, come down, and go get done, buy him

19:55

secret, bring food father, everyone.

19:57

And that wasn't my job. Did

19:59

he get mad? No.

20:01

He just bought me clothes. Sometimes he

20:04

bought me energy drinks. Kerning,

20:06

I woke up. He called me. He called me red man. He said red

20:08

man. Come here. I go to him.

20:10

He said, let's go to shop. When did the shop,

20:12

he bought me clothes. He said, he

20:14

won't hate I'm like, no. Fine. everything, and he

20:16

brought me back. He brought me shoes.

20:20

Okay. Thank you. So he brought me

20:22

everything. Like, he was so nice to

20:24

me. It was like my older brother because I don't have anyone. He Aizen

20:26

everything. Jesus. Yeah.

20:28

He was

20:29

nice to me, not

20:30

to alone. The smuggler

20:34

Aizen red man because of

20:36

his reddish

20:36

hair. It's a little odd to

20:39

hear this smuggler describes so

20:41

fondly. Like an older brother. I can't

20:43

help but notice how vulnerable Isen was.

20:46

He was a teenager by

20:48

himself without any support

20:50

or money. Ethan stayed

20:52

like this for half

20:54

a year. Eventually, the

20:56

smuggler realized he wasn't going to get

20:59

his money. And let go to

21:01

try to find his way to Hungary. He

21:03

said he'd even show him

21:05

how to do

21:05

it, but he didn't promise it would be

21:07

easy. So they let he let me try. I

21:09

try. They catch me. I come

21:12

back. Start Kerning every

21:13

night. Try try try

21:16

come back. Try come back. He showed

21:18

me the way one night. He go like this like

21:20

this. Every night goes there to another

21:22

place to drive the lorry in

21:24

trucks. Every time he tried

21:26

to cross into Hungary, the police

21:28

would catch him.

21:29

The Hungarian

21:30

border is closely guarded. It's

21:33

the entrance to the EU and Hungary's

21:36

current right wing government has made

21:38

it their priority to stop migrants

21:40

from crossing the border. Border

21:43

police have been accused of

21:45

systematic abuse against people on

21:47

the move. In twenty twenty

21:50

two alone, they've pushed back more than

21:52

two hundred thousand refugees from

21:54

Serbia, mostly avagans

21:56

and Syrians. Meanwhile,

21:59

Hungary has allowed in more than six hundred

22:01

and twenty thousand refugees from

22:03

Ukraine. Aizen

22:11

kept trying summer past

22:13

and autumn two. Winter came

22:16

again. He spent almost all of

22:18

twenty nineteen being held by

22:20

smugglers and failing to cross the

22:21

borders. It got

22:24

really cold. of cold that seeps

22:26

into your bones.

22:27

It happens in a time that the winter

22:30

came where, like, it's so cold the

22:32

train don't come a lot and

22:34

stuff. Okay, Rick van.

22:36

Time for you to go to come. Go

22:38

to come. Powerlessico. I ask him many times

22:40

before he say

22:41

no. He will skip.

22:45

Tired and defeated eyes

22:47

and decided to stop trying to cross into

22:49

Hungary and instead go

22:51

back to their refugee camp to rest for a while.

22:54

This was February twenty twenty.

22:56

The major developments in

22:58

China's coronavirus outbreak way.

23:00

Two major cities are now under lockdown

23:02

as China races to contain the mysterious

23:04

illness. And as the toll surges across the

23:06

continent, Europe the epicenter of the

23:09

COVID-nineteen crisis. And what

23:11

happened is? COVID-nineteen. The

23:13

virus has infected nearly six

23:15

hundred people in at

23:16

He cannot go outside the camp.

23:20

Stay in the camp.

23:23

Nothing changed. Sleep,

23:25

wake up, eat.

23:28

That was our routine on the

23:30

ramble, then come. Coke. To

23:32

rather than play cards. There's nothing

23:35

to

23:35

do, and also worry that what will happen

23:38

to

23:38

me. Ethan

23:42

stayed in Serbia

23:45

for more than a year. Remember

23:47

the group of refugees in Turkey

23:49

that he was guiding through

23:51

Istanbul? The ones that got stopped by police,

23:53

that group got deported back

23:55

to Afghanistan, then tried

23:58

again the same route. Through the

24:00

mountains of Iran, into

24:02

Turkey, and then Bulgaria,

24:04

and then Serbia. This

24:06

time, they made it all the way to

24:08

France. That whole time,

24:10

Isan Aizen stuck in Serbia.

24:12

He was there so long that

24:14

other refugees crowned him

24:16

king of Serbia. He said, this

24:18

is his land, and

24:21

he's not going anywhere. I

24:28

told you what happened to Isen's feet.

24:30

It was hard for him to walk, but

24:32

also to do what he loves most,

24:35

play football. The physical toll of

24:37

walking so far from home and

24:39

harsh

24:39

terrain, often beaten by smugglers

24:41

or border police. All of that

24:44

adds

24:44

up. But there's the invisible

24:47

tool too. A strong

24:49

warning that this next segment

24:51

includes mentions suicide and self

24:53

harm. Skip forward eight

24:55

minutes if you'd like to avoid

24:57

it.

24:59

My mental

25:00

health was, how can

25:03

I say, up?

25:06

From long time ago,

25:09

not the journey we're stuck.

25:11

The pressure of the family

25:13

are out of stress.

25:15

Lot of pressure in your mind. What I'm gonna do,

25:18

what will happen, what cannot happenable

25:20

can work. Like, you have to have a

25:22

way to help them. If you

25:24

don't, you're under pressure. Why you're not working?

25:27

Why you're sleeping? You're just born to

25:29

eat and sleep that's it. You're lazy.

25:31

You're like dead. You're like that.

25:34

Okay. I didn't

25:35

even try to to side in of Afghanistan

25:38

was not once two,

25:40

three times.

25:40

And I was so young, like, I now I

25:43

can remember I was, like, nine, ten years old

25:45

when I had afternoon. Let me see

25:47

how she

25:48

is. Should I do it? Should I not? And

25:50

I

25:50

remember I was so young. I put

25:53

a knife in here, and I

25:55

was like, push it.

25:57

But there's some things that come to your mind because

25:59

you get tired, you know. Like,

26:01

I was asking many times.

26:03

I was like, a lot that

26:06

why I burn. I didn't ask

26:08

you to bring me to

26:11

his

26:11

life. Like, if I can't, I

26:13

can't, but nobody cares. Still

26:15

the same thing. You

26:16

think people believe in mental health and

26:19

our garrison? And

26:22

even if

26:26

you tell

26:28

them, there's another reason for them to shout

26:31

that

26:31

you. So he don't want this. The

26:33

immense pressure from his family in

26:36

Afghanistan on top of the injustice

26:38

of going to adult prison for

26:40

a crime he didn't commit. It all contributed

26:42

to Isen's fragile and mental health. He

26:45

showed me his forearms where

26:47

he would self harm.

26:48

What is it? Yeah. That

26:50

these

26:50

cars where he cannot hit, which is

26:53

good. Where? In

26:55

here. Yeah. You cannot

26:56

see it. Right?

26:58

Because I had it here for a long time, but you cannot

27:01

see it. Eitan's already

27:03

fragile mental health only became

27:05

worse when he got on the road, and

27:07

the realities of being smuggled started

27:09

to sink in. Especially when most

27:12

of the time he was just waiting,

27:15

waiting, waiting, waiting, held

27:18

in terrible conditions. Day by

27:21

day, it was. You

27:23

you don't have anything to do. You just need to

27:25

stay in a room like a

27:27

prisoner. You cannot go out

27:29

because of the police, pressure

27:32

of a smuggler, when you're gonna pay, when

27:34

you're gonna do this, when you gotta

27:36

do that. He feel like

27:38

a he feel like a trust in this

27:40

world. Like he feel

27:43

he feel Aizen he

27:46

You don't enjoy eating, you don't enjoy talking

27:48

with people.

27:49

It's just the only thing that you

27:52

think about is that

27:54

why you are in this

27:57

world, why it is happening to

27:59

me. There are like eight billion

28:01

people. Why me? For

28:03

me, football was the only thing

28:05

that I could enjoy and forgot

28:08

everything, but sometimes when I was like in a

28:10

bad mood, even football was

28:12

like boring. Wanna do it.

28:15

The hopelessness really started

28:18

to

28:18

calcify. Add to it the

28:21

claustrophobia of lockdown. This

28:23

feeling of being unlucky started

28:25

to take

28:26

root. Aizen became convinced that

28:28

he was the source of the bad luck.

28:30

I am the

28:31

most unlike his person in

28:33

the war. I don't think

28:34

there's any medicine for

28:36

it. But it's actually

28:39

like something that sometimes my mind just totally

28:42

get How can

28:44

I say? Get get empty? Feel too

28:46

to empty. And I

28:48

feel like I cannot breathe.

28:52

I was like like this, like,

28:56

don't have anything else to do

28:58

in I start

29:00

Kerning. I

29:05

just wanna do

29:09

something to So I don't want anyone

29:11

to be with me in that

29:11

situation. That's why I was like, just want to

29:14

be alone. Put the blanket

29:16

on my head.

29:19

Aizen shared with me how he tried to

29:22

take his own life in Afghanistan and

29:24

in Turkey

29:25

too, and then again in

29:28

Serbia. I was planning to jump the building.

29:31

The main reason that stop

29:33

me from doing

29:35

suicide, the Nava's cause,

29:37

around. Otherwise, I would be honest.

29:41

Although, Ivan laughs it off now, I've

29:44

heard him when he was in one of those

29:46

few states. When his mind was

29:48

empty as he calls

29:48

it. The most recent

29:51

time

29:51

Isaac tried to self harm, he sent

29:53

a voice note on WhatsApp to

29:56

a friend. A couple of

29:58

days later, he told me about it and

30:00

played me that voice note. It's

30:02

one of the most difficult things

30:04

I've ever heard. You can just

30:07

hear Aizen and sobbing and

30:09

faintly whispering over and

30:10

over. I just want a normal

30:13

life. He doesn't remember sending it or

30:15

even playing it to

30:16

me. You play it for me?

30:19

Today. Yeah. I don't

30:21

remember. It's only

30:22

about as nipaling the voice mail.

30:24

When I hear the voice

30:27

mail, I

30:29

would like is

30:31

that actually me? You don't ask

30:34

question myself because I don't

30:37

really kinda

30:39

cry for a lot of things. Like,

30:41

even if I want to cry I can't,

30:44

like, if people die does not

30:46

make me sad or to make cry for

30:48

them because it's life all gone die one

30:50

day. But when I hear the voice, I was

30:52

like, is that me

30:54

crying? Which is

30:55

weird? Which made me really sad after I

30:58

was like, What's going on with

30:59

me? Isen has seen

31:02

so much of the ugly parts of our world.

31:05

Violence and death and

31:07

injustice, and pedophilia, and

31:10

injury. The physical and mental

31:12

extremes he's been through have left a

31:14

trail of debris that I can't even begin

31:16

to

31:16

comprehend. But these days,

31:18

he's doing better. Here, now

31:20

I'm final, Hamdala. And Hamdala,

31:22

for everything. I'm fine. Which

31:24

is good.

31:25

I don't get

31:28

like the way I used to, but I still

31:30

feel some blah

31:32

blah, which is

31:34

it's it's

31:34

fine. It's like. Yeah. I just don't want

31:36

to feel sad or angry. No.

31:40

Not

31:41

Kerning. Not hurt.

31:44

I

31:45

don't hurt myself now. Which

31:48

is good because I know how it feels when

31:50

you cannot live with Voll for a

31:52

long time.

31:56

I like it emotionally.

32:01

Yeah.

32:02

I was close to crying by stop,

32:05

not crying.

32:09

Honestly, but it doesn't look great. More

32:16

than a year

32:19

after Isen arrived in Serbia

32:21

in June of twenty twenty,

32:24

COVID restrictions lifted slightly. When that

32:27

happened, he took the first opportunity

32:29

to go back to Subodhika, near the

32:31

Hungarian

32:31

border, hoping to cross.

32:35

There, the same smuggler was still

32:36

working. Eisen explained

32:39

how they'd scout trucks waiting at

32:42

border for their specific time to cross into Hungary.

32:44

The drivers were drunk

32:46

or asleep or both

32:49

waiting for their slot. The

32:51

smuggler would look for the trucks that they

32:53

can open easily. Even if they

32:55

made some noise, the drivers are often

32:57

too drunk or out of it

33:00

to notice. He'd open the

33:02

back of a truck, check if he can

33:04

hide refugees inside, and then close

33:06

it and lock it again. Super

33:08

gluing the cables to hide the evidence

33:10

of any cut

33:10

marks. He was

33:12

like, Brickman, just tonight, go please for

33:14

me. I was like, I'm right. I need to sleep. I

33:16

was so tired

33:17

sleepy. I was like, he was like, please for me.

33:20

He opened his back. Get me to rid what?

33:22

Drink this. He was fine.

33:23

So after a few tries,

33:25

they found a truck with a sleeping driver that they

33:28

opened. We opened full

33:30

of tires, all tires,

33:33

like huge tires You were

33:35

like, Rich man, this is the best chance. Like,

33:37

okay. We put all the guys in. And I

33:40

was going to close the door. He was like, why the

33:42

hell you're closing the door? Go inside. I'm like,

33:44

I'm tired. He slapped me, say,

33:46

go inside. So he locked the door. He

33:48

used energy. The driver woke

33:50

up. He was with

33:52

a girl. So to travel with the

33:54

girl, they start having sex, which was so

33:56

weak. I was so

33:58

tired. There was

34:00

five six o'clock in the morning. So I put my jacket on

34:02

my top and I said, I'm going to sleep.

34:06

I slipped. It

34:08

was nine o'clock or ten o'clock, my

34:10

friends say, woke up like this. Like

34:12

woke up. With cross, I was

34:15

like, oh, you might. See how

34:17

we

34:17

cross. We go. Go go go

34:19

one country and another

34:22

country.

34:23

Eisen had gotten away with

34:26

it. After a few

34:28

hours, the police stopped the truck

34:30

and pulled everyone onto the side of

34:32

the road.

34:33

We do know where

34:35

we are. They say, they ask us, do you know

34:37

where we are? Like,

34:38

no. You say you're in Czech Republic.

34:41

I was like, booking. Isen,

34:44

the king of

34:46

Serbia finally crossed into the EU,

34:49

and was in the Republic. He made it

34:52

into Fortress Europe.

34:54

From here, the EU is more relaxed

34:58

border policies. Meant that they could

35:00

pass from one country to another more easily. No ladders,

35:02

over barbed wire

35:03

fences, no border police hunting them

35:05

with sniffer dogs.

35:08

He didn't even need

35:10

a smuggler. Isen could finally get

35:11

to France. Remember, he

35:13

had planned for his journey to take

35:16

three months. Two

35:18

years later, and he was only in Czech

35:19

Republic. We did

35:21

try to interview the smuggler in

35:23

Serbia for the series. But

35:25

he was incredibly difficult to pin

35:28

down. He no longer deals in

35:30

human trafficking. He's actually

35:32

living in

35:34

Switzerland. And gets in touch with Isen from time to time through

35:36

temporary Facebook accounts to remind

35:38

him that he still owed two thousand

35:42

euros. Next time on current cultures,

35:44

there's love and sorcery in

35:48

the air.

35:55

Anyway, I sent him some

35:58

sweets because Yeah. It's

36:00

nice. Nobody nobody knew

36:04

for Halloween

36:06

will be arrested. So, yes. For for the

36:08

first contact, I just wanted to show

36:10

him, I mean it

36:11

seriously, irrelevant to

36:14

health. This episode

36:16

was produced by Al Shibani and edited by Alex Etac

36:18

and me, Dana Baluut. Fact checking

36:21

was by Imman Shahidiv and

36:24

Dana Subree. And sound design was

36:26

by Monzil Hashem and Paul Aloof. Our team also includes Zena

36:28

Deweydaiad, Nadine

36:29

Schackett, and Finbar

36:32

Anderson. A special

36:33

thanks to Tahir Shah, the grandson of

36:36

Cesar Equa Alisha, for sharing

36:38

details about his grandfather

36:40

with us. And thank you to Anton for his

36:42

production support. Thank you for

36:44

listening. We'll see you next week.

36:46

Take care.

36:47

Okay. What are

36:51

you gonna do

36:54

now?

36:55

Yeah. Three

36:57

the -- Okay. --

36:59

by the way. Yeah. I'm

37:01

dead not alone.

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features