6:00

Didn't make anybody watch. No.

6:04

As the boys

6:07

would say, it's turn

6:09

the channel heat. Did

6:14

it make you pissed off? Yeah. So you

6:16

got, it was, you

6:18

know, there was an element of heat.

6:21

Yeah. Turn the channel and never

6:23

come back heat. Of

6:26

the three things that I

6:28

guess are probably the most discussed

6:31

as being endemic of some

6:33

of the booking problems in WCW. Let's

6:35

call it, let's call it our cat. Let's

6:38

say fingerpoke of doom is brought up and

6:42

Russo putting the belt on himself. Those

6:46

things are, those are like, um,

6:51

if we're going to talk about things that are going to

6:53

happen that when they hit the

6:55

earth will be catastrophic. Those

6:58

are three fucking Elon

7:00

Musk satellites right there. A

7:05

guy named Joe at the end of the

7:07

table that Eric doesn't know telling

7:09

him how he's going to run

7:11

the company and

7:14

taking half of the budget. That's

7:17

far more destructive, far more. No

7:19

question. I mean, you don't

7:21

even have, I don't understand

7:23

why people continue to talk

7:26

about the, the sticks

7:29

and bones and movements and.

7:33

It had nothing to do with

7:35

anything that came across that

7:37

screen in any

7:40

segment, any 15 segments,

7:42

any 100 segments. I'm

7:47

not, I don't, I'm not suggesting that, that it

7:49

had any more importance than what was going on

7:51

at the network, but I'm just asking

7:53

you in your personal take, if you're sitting in

7:55

the booking room, right? Of those three ideas.

8:00

which do you veto first? Russo

8:06

getting the belt. You personally.

8:09

Somebody brings that Russo throws three things out there.

8:12

Which do you throw out the window for which is

8:14

the most egregious to you? I

8:19

don't know it's at that time in my

8:21

life. I have no idea what

8:23

the kickback is to push

8:27

the film if Arquette gets the strap. I

8:29

don't know what to get. I don't know

8:31

what you know. I don't

8:33

know what the kickback is. We get five million

8:35

bucks and he's gonna

8:37

have it for a week. That's

8:40

true. That whole deal was

8:42

part and parcel to the film being released.

8:44

And I think people forgot that. They mentioned

8:46

it in the documentary. But I think that's

8:48

often left out of the discussion. That

8:52

it was part of the promotion for the film. So

8:55

good point. So that might have been a business deal they had to

8:58

take. And

9:01

then Fingerpoke

9:03

you've gone on record and said it worked

9:05

pissed people off which leaves us

9:07

now. The See

9:14

I don't I broke my ankle

9:17

and I don't know if I was around like

9:20

day to day when like Russo

9:22

made himself champion. Right.

9:28

So winning the belt. So But

9:30

you certainly knew it happened.

9:32

Yeah, is it the is it the

9:35

violation that many Feel

9:37

it was it only lasted a day, right? He

9:40

gave it back the next day or Took

9:43

it back. Whatever happened next. I mean when

9:45

you listen to fences There

9:51

was so many If

9:53

anybody comes across

9:56

and episode 3 is

9:58

fucking stupid Siegel.

10:02

I'm in charge. I really don't know what the

10:04

fuck I'm doing and

10:06

it's like I fire this guy, bring

10:08

this guy back, and fight this guy,

10:10

let go, hey, no wait, I'm in

10:13

charge. No, Russo, you're my

10:16

guy. Like can

10:18

you be any more wishy-washy? Like

10:20

there's your management. The

10:22

guy that's supposed to be in

10:24

charge from

10:27

a corporate level is, he's

10:29

pretty spineless. Well

10:33

he was in over his head and...

10:35

Who wasn't in that? I

10:40

think they could have kept it

10:42

together though, Kev. They

10:44

didn't have anybody, that Bill Bush

10:47

guy, man, he was a nice

10:49

guy. He didn't have a clue

10:51

about professional wrestling. It's

10:55

just... and

10:59

you have the guy

11:01

from Standard in Practice, he was a

11:03

nice guy, but he was in

11:05

there while we tried to create and

11:08

it's just like, you're

11:11

basically pitching a show to this

11:13

guy. Yeah.

11:18

Because everything had to go through. Everything

11:20

had to be approved by now. Yeah.

11:25

And Siegel too, right? Siegel too.

11:27

Yeah, well no. Siegel

11:30

didn't have... I never saw Siegel. He

11:35

didn't show up at events. I'm

11:37

not talking about like who gets the title. I'm talking about

11:39

like personnel stuff. If

11:43

you wanted to bring somebody over... I never

11:46

had any safe zone in any of that shit. you

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13:22

it was, it was

13:24

a committee, but Kevin was, I

13:27

guess, running the committee? At the end?

13:29

Yeah. Yeah. What

13:33

was the tone, what was the

13:35

difference in tone creatively from

13:38

when? Well, I can't believe

13:41

that we watch a television show

13:43

that's supposed to be produced by,

13:45

by, I mean, it's seven

13:48

bucks is producing this and

13:54

you make reference to

13:56

the midcard guys aren't being

13:59

used. And

14:02

Benoit leaves once Sullivan

14:04

gets the book back, but

14:07

nobody makes reference to the fact that

14:11

Benoit is now involved

14:15

with Sullivan's ex. That

14:20

was all part of an angle

14:23

that went down. It's

14:27

like to me, there's so many guys

14:29

I sit and I watch and I

14:31

go, yeah, but but like

14:33

there's so many things that are just

14:35

missing. It's

14:38

fucking I think it's it. It's I

14:41

thought this was going to be good. I think

14:43

this is fucking rotten. I

14:47

haven't I haven't did I even

14:49

get charged as booking the the

14:52

win over Goldberg? Because

14:55

that was the mean that the

14:57

death of WCW book has me

15:00

beaten Goldberg on the front and

15:02

Bill's book says that I I

15:04

think that all that shit was already put to rest

15:06

before they made this thing. They

15:09

didn't say that in this show. I know because it

15:11

did when they looked at it time wise. It didn't

15:13

it didn't line up and it was it was all

15:15

bullshit. Which

15:17

book put that in the Alvarez book death of

15:20

WCW? It's the one where I'm power bombing Bill

15:22

on the cover. I think

15:27

it's that I think it's that

15:31

something nitro something I

15:34

think I think Alvarez's book has Eric

15:36

on the cover if

15:38

I recall, but so okay, so.

15:42

Okay,

15:44

so

15:47

that was the guy that was in the show right that they talked to

15:50

he was one of the talking heads right in that. That's

15:52

it nitro. That's what I thought. Okay. It's

15:55

called nitro. All right, dude. I

15:57

fucking go back to the eye.

15:59

to the arch, to the

16:01

arch, Bob. That might be Sheik taking the photo

16:04

there if that's not happening. To the arch. I

16:07

give you the power bomb. He's

16:09

doing the arch and you got a face

16:11

full of sack. There is just no, that's

16:14

the toughest thing about that power bomb. He kicked down on two and

16:16

a half. Toughest

16:18

thing about that fucking power bomb, man. You need

16:20

balls in the face almost every night. Say

16:24

that like it's a bad thing. Something's haven't changed, I

16:26

know. Yeah, you say like it's a bad thing. So

16:29

episode four, where are we going episode four?

16:31

This is the Vince version of WCW, I

16:33

assume, right? When he gets

16:35

the company and they do what they

16:38

do. I still, they're selling it

16:40

as, we're

16:44

all sitting on the TV and

16:46

nobody knows what's gonna happen. Nobody

16:49

knows it, but I'm thinking, why

16:51

am I home? Why

16:53

do I know? Who

16:56

was saying that nobody knows what's

16:58

gonna happen? That's the fucking teaser

17:00

of this fourth episode. Oh, oh.

17:03

Nobody knows what's gonna happen and they show

17:05

everybody walking around. It's just like, what do

17:07

you mean, no one? They were playing it

17:09

like nobody knew Vince got the job. Yeah,

17:12

bullshit, man. Fucking, they called me

17:14

up. I fucking, I'd already heard through

17:16

the grapevine. My crew

17:18

up in New York told me what the deal

17:20

was. Vince was buying it. I made two phone

17:23

calls. I said, so we don't own it? I

17:27

said, what are we doing about? It

17:30

wasn't even me, it was Barry. Barry

17:34

just said, who's responsible for

17:37

this? Who's cutting the check

17:39

is the question, right? That's all we cared about.

17:41

Right. I

17:44

didn't really give two fucks, so I

17:46

was on the Club La Vila last

17:49

shot. So

17:52

all in all, now I thought the series

17:54

had a good start. I thought episode

17:56

two was good. I

18:01

like the stuff about Turner and the network and

18:03

kind of how Control

18:05

the network slipped from Turner's hands, but

18:08

this past episode Got

18:11

under my skin a little bit because this

18:13

started to deal with booking and and it

18:15

was clown car It was it was too

18:18

much clown car Yeah,

18:22

I could see that I Could

18:25

see that and the thing is when you're

18:27

that it

18:29

came across very disjointed and when

18:33

you when They

18:36

show a picture Eric and he's got like

18:38

dark hair then like Eric

18:40

comes back He's got long gray hair and

18:42

I'm like and I

18:44

remember because they brought like there's

18:47

no Reference

18:49

to them firing Scott and bringing

18:51

Scott back No,

18:54

they actually didn't talk about

18:56

you guys at all You're

18:58

in it, but they didn't deal

19:00

with you guys. I saw a clip where Conan

19:02

buried us and Like

19:05

when they fired expac we just we

19:07

stopped giving ideas We took our ball

19:09

and ran and all this

19:11

other shit. Maybe that's so was that in I Haven't

19:15

seen it yet. So it's gotta be the

19:17

fourth one. I hope

19:20

I hope it's like a just a Clip that got out

19:22

there that didn't make it cuz God I sure

19:24

as hell would hate to tell the story where

19:26

I got creative some

19:29

creative input Like the first thing I

19:31

did was make sure

19:33

that he got a two hundred fifty thousand dollar bump I

19:37

mean like day one so I've

19:40

got I hope he's not burying us because

19:42

But then if he is and it pretty much

19:45

explains that

19:47

like his point of view Pretty

19:52

consistent. Yeah with my impression

19:55

So I'll talk to you guys later But

24:03

Hogan and Rock have a

24:05

match at WrestleMania 18 that's

24:08

pretty epic. That whole run

24:10

and Hogan

24:12

came out of that. Like

24:16

he, to me he

24:18

entrenched himself across three

24:20

generations as the generational star.

24:25

He looked like a million bucks and he was probably

24:27

48 years old when he got in the ring that

24:30

night in Toronto. So

24:32

I look at those things and I

24:34

say, number

24:38

one, because it's a

24:40

work, there's always gonna be an amazing

24:43

amount of jealousy. And

24:45

it's always gonna be, yeah, I wasn't gonna politic.

24:53

Okay? Don't

24:55

people who say that, aren't they usually people

24:57

who couldn't politic because they weren't in a

24:59

position? Or they don't, exactly. If you,

25:05

Kev, I'm not gonna be president this

25:07

year, okay? I'm not running. I mean,

25:09

either. I'm not debating. I'm

25:12

not gonna debate. I'm not gonna debate, I'm

25:14

not gonna debate Kennedy on

25:16

another channel during the Biden-Trump,

25:21

because I won't qualify either. So.

25:25

But to your point with Hogan, yes,

25:28

amazing moment, WrestleMania 18, no question. And

25:32

one of those rare moments in

25:35

wrestling that

25:37

you can't work. Unexpected,

25:41

fans made it happen because of

25:43

somebody's legacy. No booking

25:45

decision could have changed that reality. Fans

25:47

don't make it happen when

25:50

he shows up. If

25:53

anybody, I mean, Dwayne

25:56

could have made that

25:58

very difficult for, for. Hulk. Yes,

26:03

that's true. He went with it. Dwayne

26:05

went with it. Dwayne could have, Dwayne

26:08

basically when they started Hogan Hogan,

26:10

Dwayne switched gears a little bit.

26:13

Yeah. I mean, that was

26:15

huge because Dwayne's not a mark. He's

26:19

just not a mark. And you

26:21

heard the business. Absolutely. And

26:25

he knew that all that would

26:27

do was add to his legacy. Hogan's

26:31

not participating in this documentary, Kevin. Did

26:33

we, did we lose anything by not

26:35

hearing anything from the horse's mouth? He

26:37

was a big part of it. And

26:39

I thought it was a glaring omission.

26:41

I saw it covered a little bit

26:44

in the wrestling media that, um,

26:46

he just couldn't do it. And anything that's been

26:48

said, been said already, I thought it was missing

26:50

Hogan's voice. Did you? Well,

26:53

number one, it wasn't going to be, you weren't going

26:55

to get Hogan's voice because you didn't have the budget

26:57

to get it. Which

27:00

was the Rick issue. Right. Steve.

27:02

Yeah. I'm staying, you

27:05

know, and then Steve also has come

27:07

across numerous times and

27:09

said that he doesn't care to do those kinds

27:11

of things. Right. You

27:14

know, so, uh, and

27:16

I don't think anybody likes to do

27:19

them. I took this one

27:21

on because it was

27:24

like, like I said, I'll

27:26

just have fun with it. Right. Um,

27:31

but I just, with all the point

27:33

counterpoint that was going on, I thought

27:35

that would have been good to

27:37

have Hogan, particularly with the

27:39

stuff, you know, toward the, one of

27:41

the things that I, that I watched

27:44

from, from three, uh, it

27:47

was that the

27:49

Russo promo that he cut

27:52

in Daytona beach on

27:54

Hogan, when Hogan and Eric left and

27:57

they had the match, he says that

27:59

they were all in on that. Who's

28:04

he? Russo? Russo says that

28:06

that was they all knew that

28:08

he was gonna say what he was gonna say

28:10

and do what he was gonna do. Mm-hmm. Correct?

28:14

Yes. Which, when

28:16

was your lawsuit? Well

28:21

I mean you you can agree

28:23

to something then see it doesn't work and

28:26

then file a lawsuit and say I didn't

28:28

know. I

28:31

wasn't there I can't say but. Yeah I

28:34

was there I went home. So

28:38

I didn't get a chance to I didn't get a

28:40

chance to see it either I was I was actually

28:43

eating Pizza Hut with my with my son. So.

28:46

So if you had Eric Bischoff

28:48

in a room right now with

28:52

with Hulk yourself

28:55

you were on top there maybe

28:58

maybe Rick Sting

29:01

Steve right you have him there so guys

29:03

that all at the top in

29:06

the good when it was riding high when you're

29:08

doing your 83 weeks and

29:11

I asked everybody at that round table

29:15

why didn't WCW work would I get

29:17

the same answer from everybody do you

29:19

think I think I know because

29:21

this documentary and knowing Eric I know what Eric's

29:23

answer would be which is very similar to yours

29:25

because it has to do with and there's

29:28

so few people that unless

29:32

you had were on that

29:34

level which I know Hulk and Eric

29:36

were mm-hmm unless you

29:39

were playing on that level and

29:42

privy to what Eric knew you

29:45

had no idea that's why I that's why

29:47

I picked those names though because these would

29:49

have been the people but they Steve is

29:51

never Steve would

29:54

not have see

29:59

what it was I'm not gonna say let me, you know what

30:01

man, shit's fucked up, let me see if I can help. I

30:04

know you're about to have a nervous breakdown. It

30:06

just, he wasn't, he doesn't care

30:08

for the business. Did

30:15

that be, was that ever problematic for you? Because

30:18

you guys loved the business. Did

30:22

you see that indifference as disrespect? No,

30:24

God no. Or did you respect it?

30:26

Okay. I respect, I almost, I

30:29

almost fucking looked at it as

30:31

an aberration. Because

30:34

he, you know. All

30:37

right. Very good. So that was

30:39

episode three. Episode four, we'll talk about it next

30:41

week. See what happens. But I just, I look at

30:43

it and I say if anybody, like

30:46

Eric takes

30:48

the worst beating and Eric, but

30:53

anybody, any of the boys that are

30:55

taking any body shots on this is

30:57

just bullshit. Any

31:00

other workers you're talking about? Yeah. There's

31:02

way too many of us and

31:04

not enough of, not

31:08

enough of the suits. That's

31:12

true. But I do like. I

31:15

actually fucking tipped my hat to

31:17

Siegel because he

31:19

at least. Absolutely, he did

31:21

it. Yeah, he at least showed up. He did it

31:23

and he knew what it was gonna sound like, probably.

31:28

And he actually, but at

31:30

the same time, his

31:32

off-Broadway Truman Capote show

31:34

drew numbers he

31:37

has never seen before. So.

31:39

Exactly. And

31:41

we were able to, we

31:43

were able to bring up, not anything with his name

31:45

again. Philip

31:48

Seymour Hoffman? No, the

31:50

old fucking, the old comedian

31:52

we fucking brought up. Jack

31:54

Benny. I'm on it, Jack

31:56

Benny. John.

32:00

Stonebreaker was listening last week or

32:02

watching or both. He

32:04

said every year my weekends feel shorter and

32:06

shorter. Listening to you guys at 5 a.m.

32:09

Monday getting up makes

32:11

it feel like you're extending my weekend

32:13

just a few hours some laughs just

32:15

before jumping back in the rat race.

32:17

Thank you gents. Thank you John. Thank

32:19

you for listening man. Who's

32:23

this James Dowerd. I'm

32:26

a lot more interested in a click

32:28

documentary than hearing about WCW dying for

32:30

the hundredth time. I actually

32:37

because this was it was

32:44

so soupy sales man it was

32:46

just like so pie

32:48

in the I mean some of this

32:50

shit was just brutal. You

32:53

talking about this episode. Yeah. I'm

32:55

just watching it. Optically to sit

32:58

there watch something like oh

33:02

but this was the Russo episode so this

33:04

is where it would go

33:06

off the rails a little bit Vince

33:11

would be the first one I have to

33:13

defend Vince a little bit here he

33:15

would be the first one to tell you and has

33:19

that not everything he did worked and

33:22

I'm sure there was there were some pitches he

33:25

would like to take back at the

33:27

mound but when you're doing what

33:29

was it have six hours ten hours a

33:31

week ten hours a week.

33:33

Well you were doing you were actually doing seven

33:39

but you had to write like ten

33:42

to do seven. To

33:47

cut you mean you had ten.

33:49

No because you had a thunder

33:51

was live and then

33:53

taped so you had to you had

33:55

to you had to write you had to

33:57

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50:10

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50:12

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I don't

50:25

know what it was but my

50:28

yard is south

50:30

facing so I get sun from

50:34

about 9 a.m. until about 6

50:37

full sun my pool was like

50:39

a bath today and there's

50:41

only one the foliage

50:44

is gone around the pool there's

50:46

one tree in a neighbor and

50:48

it doesn't really produce enough shade

50:50

so my yard is generally 10

50:52

to 20 degrees hotter than

50:54

like the clock I have on the wall back

50:56

there there's a there's a temperature

50:58

gauge in it it hits like 120 some

51:01

days and it's brick too so like the

51:04

that whole back part of the house gets really hot but yeah

51:06

so I'd say it got pretty close to 100 up here today

51:10

but you know I was thinking today to what you were

51:12

saying about not knowing what we're gonna talk about we

51:15

would be the best jazz

51:17

musicians a jazz duo

51:19

because this is a this is like a

51:21

jazz show every week we agree to go

51:23

to Michael's pub whip

51:25

out our instruments insert

51:27

joke and and

51:30

just fiddle our instruments with each other Nate Nizzle

51:36

I think the big take away when are we

51:39

can get cool cigarettes to sponsor us maybe

51:41

it's cool used to have the fucking

51:44

jazz festivals mmm it's

51:47

always good on in Detroit during

51:49

the cool jazz festivals in

51:52

the movie play misty for me there's

51:55

a scene where Clint Eastwood series he

51:57

runs a jazz He's

52:00

a jazz DJ in the movie. They

52:03

go to San, I think they're in San Francisco, might be

52:05

Oakland, but I think in San Francisco and they go to

52:08

the cool jazz festival. Don't

52:12

see many cigarette companies sponsoring much

52:14

these days. And I

52:16

don't know why. It's just something,

52:18

I'm olive branching them right

52:20

now. This

52:23

session of chemo brought to

52:25

you by camera filters. You

52:27

want to hit a strum.

52:30

I remember back in the day we'd smoke

52:32

ghouls and we'd open the bottom of the

52:34

pack. Why?

52:37

You know, you wouldn't

52:40

open it where you'd pull the filter out.

52:43

You'd open the bottom of the pack

52:45

because you kept the menthol in. There's

52:49

another myth, like if you have pizza after a

52:52

soma and a kid's kicking. That's one of those

52:54

Detroit things. Okay. Is

52:56

it a Detroit role or a Chicago role? Where you

52:59

keep the money, you wrap the

53:01

money with the largest bill on the outside.

53:05

Maybe it's a Chicago role. I used to always hear

53:07

it. It's carrying it in a Chicago role. Detroit

53:10

role, Chicago role, whatever. Listen,

53:13

Nate Nizzle said, I think the big takeaway

53:15

from this episode is when Kevin said that

53:17

Bruce Richard predicted the fans would cheer 80-20

53:20

in favor of the Rock over

53:22

Hogan. I

53:26

think everybody was pretty shocked except

53:28

I think maybe Scott, me

53:31

and Hogan. Not

53:35

Hogan. That was such a priceless

53:37

time because we

53:40

heard that nobody wanted us three

53:43

back. So I remember we

53:45

were sitting and eating room

53:47

service in LA and

53:52

in Hulk's room. And we got the Coronas

53:54

around our eyes. We're

53:59

just sitting there. Absolutely.

1:10:00

Even spin off additional programming type

1:10:02

things. Maybe there's a little maybe

1:10:04

there's a Wyatt movie about

1:10:07

the crazy family and all that stuff

1:10:09

they can do. Yeah,

1:10:13

I mean it just it just it you

1:10:16

gotta plant the seeds somewhere the seeds planted.

1:10:18

Now it's you know you know you're not

1:10:20

going to water it fully to get you

1:10:22

know. We're

1:10:24

not looking for a bud until January

1:10:27

so. But you've but

1:10:29

it's eventually got to become a wrestling angle

1:10:31

right it's got to move to the ring

1:10:33

somehow but I think the Fiend I think

1:10:35

when we first I first

1:10:37

saw the Fiend I was just like

1:10:39

this isn't. Right.

1:10:42

I didn't get it. You

1:10:46

know it's it's like when

1:10:48

when Finn goes

1:10:50

into his alter ego. You

1:10:55

know. Like

1:10:57

people I think people forget like the

1:10:59

first you know I

1:11:01

think what was the belt called back

1:11:03

it was the intercontinental was at the

1:11:06

inner universal right which belt the

1:11:09

one that Finn won and got hurt like right off

1:11:11

it right out of the shoe. It'll

1:11:15

come up. Help

1:11:17

Steve. It's

1:11:20

the universal. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:25

So that you know. That

1:11:29

seems a long time ago. So the transition

1:11:34

into the wrestling you're

1:11:36

saying you can have. Or

1:11:39

do you keep it these bizarre vignettes every week it's

1:11:42

got it's got to begin to it's

1:11:44

got to begin to pay off and into. Move

1:11:47

angles into pay per views and stuff right. Oh

1:11:50

Dallas is doing the. Uncle

1:11:53

Howdy things so obviously it's going to

1:11:55

be wrestling related. Be

1:11:59

curious to see. where it goes. I thought it

1:12:01

was an effective start. Curious to see

1:12:03

where it goes. I, you know, it's, it

1:12:07

definitely was one of the things that

1:12:12

after, like, I was just like,

1:12:14

oh wow. It

1:12:17

was almost like they were smart to it. Like

1:12:20

the crowd was smart to it. In

1:12:25

that, in that they, the reaction

1:12:28

was, was, was almost spontaneous. Yeah.

1:12:30

Right. Before,

1:12:35

before I had optics, but then

1:12:37

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1:12:40

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he's not picking... He's not picking intimidating

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come around over by the fucking the

1:16:13

grass-fed beef where I'm standing

1:16:15

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1:16:17

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1:16:19

and this guy's four feet

1:16:21

tall. This is Ray

1:16:23

Mysterio. And on top of that,

1:16:26

he's fucking so... He's

1:16:29

such a skinny, tall, fucking... They

1:16:32

ain't nobody gonna beat him the fuck down. Alright,

1:16:48

so how many balls does he get for approaching

1:16:50

random people asking what time it is? He gets

1:16:52

two-lined down his throat. That's

1:16:55

what he gets from me. He's a fucking... Jesus.

1:17:01

I'm surprised he's not waiting for

1:17:04

the short bust to fucking... Assholes

1:17:07

on the short bust. What time

1:17:09

it is. Jesus. In

1:17:12

order to insulate himself from trouble, he's gonna...

1:17:15

Yeah, this guy is... This

1:17:17

segment may fucking not

1:17:20

survive. This

1:17:23

is great. This week we're

1:17:25

gonna take this, we're gonna build a boat, we're

1:17:27

gonna put this in it next

1:17:29

to Shane McMahon and just put it

1:17:31

right across the street from you. Point

1:17:34

it toward Iron. I

1:17:36

love Shane McMahon. I just don't think that there's anything

1:17:38

Shane can do. What the

1:17:40

fuck is he gonna do? Alright,

1:17:44

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1:18:28

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1:18:31

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1:18:33

segment. This show? What's

1:18:36

that? We're done playing

1:18:39

games, aren't we? Well, the Florida

1:18:41

man jersey guy. Well, we

1:18:43

got fucking Tap Out and Florida man jersey guy? Every

1:18:45

week we do Tap Out. Well, no, Tap Out will

1:18:47

be next week. I put four balls in place of

1:18:50

Tap Out just to mix things up. You

1:18:52

quote, Kevin, quote. We

1:18:56

didn't do Karnak every week. So

1:18:59

you know, that's that fucking asshole

1:19:02

thing. That's skinny fuck. I mean,

1:19:04

Jesus Christ. All right. Two headlines,

1:19:06

one from a Florida man, one from a Jersey guy.

1:19:08

Kevin's back on a roll. So

1:19:11

let's see how he does here. First

1:19:13

headline, father arrested after confronting student in

1:19:15

high school classroom. It's

1:19:18

always good when dad comes to school to

1:19:20

settle a grudge. And

1:19:23

man buys mask at gas

1:19:25

station to burglarize bank across

1:19:27

the street. Father

1:19:31

arrested after confronting student in high

1:19:33

school classroom. And then

1:19:35

man buys mask at gas station

1:19:38

to burglarize the bank across the

1:19:40

street. We're talking about

1:19:42

robbing the bank. They

1:19:45

use the word burglarize in the

1:19:47

headline for this news agency, but

1:19:49

I'm assuming it meant stick up

1:19:52

the bank. But if it's a

1:19:54

stick up, stick ups are pretty

1:19:56

rare in fucking Florida. How

1:19:59

else? would you burglarize a bang? I don't

1:20:02

know, but that's it. Oh, maybe at night

1:20:04

to break in at night? I don't know.

1:20:06

To me, it's like some fucking

1:20:08

whacked out fucking meth dad from

1:20:10

Florida coming in and confronting

1:20:13

some kid that his son's

1:20:18

had a problem with. I could see

1:20:20

that. But it's

1:20:22

so the burglarize,

1:20:24

I don't

1:20:27

know how you burglarize. I

1:20:30

sure as fucking don't want my money in

1:20:32

something you can burglarize. Pick

1:20:35

the lock and empty the vault. I

1:20:37

mean, I just back here burglarizing the

1:20:39

fucking safe deposit boxes. Don't mind me.

1:20:43

What time is it, asshole, anyway? Shane's

1:20:47

still out there in that car? He's my

1:20:49

fucking driver. It's this

1:20:51

week's episode. That's the title this week.

1:20:53

We get the thumbnail. It's Shane, the

1:20:55

kid in the supermarket, and me for

1:20:58

having picked these segments this week. Go

1:21:00

ahead. Who's in

1:21:02

Jersey? Who's in Florida? Fuck.

1:21:04

I'm going to say that he was

1:21:06

actually robbing the bank, which would be

1:21:08

more Jersey-ish. So I'm going to

1:21:11

say the burglarize slash

1:21:13

robberize slash, I

1:21:16

don't think Shane could help, will be

1:21:19

Jersey, and then the fucking

1:21:22

with your kids, the Florida guy. No, you

1:21:24

had it backwards. You should have gone with

1:21:26

the burglarize, I guess. And

1:21:28

the guy picking the fight in the classroom was

1:21:30

the Jersey guy. This was,

1:21:32

let's see. So you could see

1:21:34

Tony Sibrano walk in because fucking

1:21:36

with. Someone was messing with AJ. No,

1:21:39

it was fucking Meadow, man. I remember that one.

1:21:41

He says, what the fucking, yeah, he was fucking

1:21:43

with what the guy say. Fucking

1:21:46

goes, fucking kills a guy. South

1:21:49

Jersey, Florida arrested after confronting student high

1:21:51

school classroom. Read the second one. I

1:21:54

want to read what he did. Aaron

1:21:56

Thomas. This is in Pallsboro, New Jersey.

1:21:58

And then the, all right. What

1:24:02

did I miss? How long were you

1:24:04

away? I

1:24:06

just got back. Basically

1:24:09

from when you guys started until now. We

1:24:11

did I miss Manscaped?

1:24:13

You missed Manscaped and I guess some of the

1:24:16

worst segments I ever chosen for a show. That's

1:24:18

not true. I was making the thumbnail and I

1:24:20

was like, what are they actually talking about? So

1:24:22

I went back because I missed the show and

1:24:24

listened. And like, dude, it was like

1:24:26

actual video of a dentist

1:24:28

pulling a cheese. He

1:24:30

was just like, no, no one wants to watch that.

1:24:33

And you're like, it was

1:24:36

what? Exactly. It was

1:24:38

playing handball with a noodle. It

1:24:42

was like you shoot China. But

1:24:44

if people did want to watch that. But

1:24:48

let's say we had

1:24:50

to talk for two hours. I

1:24:52

don't know. Let's

1:24:54

say we had a podcast. Let's say we're on the air. It's

1:24:57

like radio, but on the internet.

1:25:00

Yeah, I went from what I thought I opened.

1:25:02

I was like, oh my god, I'm going to

1:25:04

talk to him all about Shane McMahon, his interests,

1:25:07

his value in the business back then versus today.

1:25:09

Everything. It was the most, we're

1:25:11

already getting pictures of Shane lined up for thomes.

1:25:14

And he's like, I don't. It

1:25:16

was the segment of Doom. It

1:25:19

was the Sean Polk of Doom into

1:25:23

my four ball game this week, which

1:25:26

went over like a fart in church. Then

1:25:29

we got the Florida man in Jersey guy backwards. You

1:25:35

know what? This get blitzed ad. No,

1:25:39

in place of the tap out, I did four balls.

1:25:41

I tried to mix it up last week and pick

1:25:43

guys doing things. Never

1:25:46

mind. You

1:25:48

bring up the clicker. The get

1:25:50

blitzed ad. I'm

1:25:54

hearing good things about this. I haven't caught it yet,

1:25:56

but I'm gonna though. I'm sure it is great. Oh,

1:26:04

fuck. Shit, did he just leave? Yeah,

1:26:06

he might not come back. This he's

1:26:09

episode 102. That

1:26:12

wouldn't who killed click this

1:26:14

laptop? Sean,

1:26:18

it's done. We're all going

1:26:20

to be in the thumbnail, but the answer, Sean, you know, you

1:26:22

don't need Brad Siegel to tell you. Now

1:26:25

it's it's who killed WCW in the thumbnails just

1:26:27

by. No,

1:26:31

other than Kevin laugh. So

1:26:33

this week, since I don't have a coast anymore, the

1:26:36

the the topic will probably be up top,

1:26:38

right, Steve? We did a lot. Yes, I

1:26:40

could move it if we think we need

1:26:42

to. No, it's fine where it

1:26:44

is. West, you'll appreciate that. That's all I

1:26:46

just did that. That

1:26:49

show that joke I just did at the end there. Nice.

1:26:53

You do. It's weird now when I see this camera set up

1:26:55

for you. I'm like, why am I not watching play for tonight?

1:26:57

Why are we doing? What are we doing with the I'm

1:27:01

Steve's second career? He's he's live streaming his fortnight

1:27:03

playing. And I'm like the fucking nerve that's watching

1:27:06

on Twitter. Yo, like 20, 30 people tune in

1:27:08

to watch me play for tonight. Like it's a

1:27:10

thing. How's everyone in the house? Everyone in the

1:27:12

house having a great time. Good.

1:27:18

Could be Paul, I thought that he might

1:27:20

have been laying cable and the four ball

1:27:23

segment, those are the and Donald Sutherland. Those

1:27:25

are the three things that died this week.

1:27:29

I thought the Shane McMahon, a W

1:27:31

was was pretty much fucking. That

1:27:34

was well, we got 35 seconds autopsy. We're

1:27:38

Shane's Shane's trending on

1:27:40

Twitter. Right. This moment is. Yeah,

1:27:44

it's more abundant. It's not dead. All

1:27:46

right. I'm going to come into the high

1:27:49

spot. Really? We really think that that's

1:27:51

going to make a difference. Maybe

1:27:53

maybe I haven't watched the show in a

1:27:55

while. Maybe they're maybe they're doing something that.

1:27:59

Well. I wanted to

1:28:02

ask you was would that entice talent

1:28:04

to go over from WWE?

1:28:08

Cuz maybe Shane- But Sean, are you talking

1:28:10

about them bringing him as

1:28:12

a on screen, just an on screen talent

1:28:14

or actually- No, something behind the

1:28:16

scenes, or both. I don't think it matters.

1:28:18

That's just another thing I get in my

1:28:20

check. And it might not. But he never

1:28:23

really did anything behind the scenes. That's what

1:28:25

I was asking Kevin. Did he have any

1:28:27

creative- No. What was the

1:28:29

input or could he have, was he a creative

1:28:31

guy? Never got the chance, cuz dad was keeping

1:28:33

him down. And this is where he's gonna

1:28:35

spread his wings and show you who

1:28:37

he is and become the next Vince.

1:28:40

Isn't his wife an heiress

1:28:42

to the fucking, like

1:28:44

a mayonnaise or craft or something?

1:28:48

I don't know, maybe. I think

1:28:50

you're right, but I don't remember the- Ask.

1:28:53

I love the idea of a mayonnaise heiress. Ask.

1:28:57

Let's Google that. Hey

1:29:01

Google, what Shane McMahon wife do? Shane

1:29:06

McMahon wife. Married in 96. She

1:29:11

fucked with Mayo. She

1:29:13

co-hosted Livewire. She's a

1:29:15

film producer. Her net worth is 5

1:29:17

million. She like inherited- Yeah,

1:29:19

she inherited something. Like her

1:29:21

dad was something. He

1:29:24

was like a mustard guy or some shit. Big

1:29:26

condiment somewhere in the- There's

1:29:29

a condiment somewhere. There's no information saying

1:29:32

that she's an heiress. She's

1:29:36

from Granitechkin, Connecticut. She

1:29:39

had her own career, including

1:29:41

co-hosting WWF Livewire. She

1:29:44

was in The Scorpion King. What

1:29:47

was her- scroll down. Her own production company

1:29:49

is called what? Kamala

1:29:52

Films? Is that a rib? I

1:29:55

was gonna say, can

1:29:57

you not get away from wrestling, the poor bastard?

1:30:01

Um, she was an actress in the

1:30:03

Scorpion King? Yes. Isn't this the same

1:30:05

site that said Kevin was... No, this is perplexity. Let

1:30:07

me do this ad. I want to put one in

1:30:10

the back of the head of this fucking show this

1:30:12

week. I

1:30:15

think it's pretty much fucking... It's done? I

1:30:18

want to dump the body. I got to get the...

1:30:20

Put it in the weeds and see Cawkins. It's pretty

1:30:22

much Oswald. So

1:30:25

who's the Theresa Hines? Is the, like,

1:30:27

the Hines? That was Carrie. Yeah,

1:30:30

but she's not, like, with a McMayer.

1:30:32

No, she was fucking... She

1:30:34

was Carrie's wife. Yeah, yeah,

1:30:37

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That may have been what I was thinking.

1:30:40

Anyway, I'm dropping out. You guys... Nod,

1:30:44

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1:30:46

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blitzed. Exactly. Boom. Delta

1:31:19

9, it means it's THC. Okay,

1:31:22

THC on steroids. It's a syrup. You

1:31:24

mix it in any beverage, like a tea or a

1:31:26

white soda, and with

1:31:28

as little as a teaspoon, fast onset,

1:31:30

five to 15 minutes, coming soon. Very

1:31:33

special flavors from your friends, Kevin

1:31:35

Shawn. Nano-infused means,

1:31:37

by the way, it goes right to

1:31:40

your bloodstream, bypassing the breakdown on the

1:31:42

liver. This is not gas station Delta

1:31:44

8 bullshit. This is the real deal,

1:31:46

THC Delta 9, the THC you get

1:31:49

from marijuana. I just want to say,

1:31:51

a little PSA here, in a time

1:31:53

when we consistently read about people with

1:31:55

opiate issues, and

1:31:57

the wild opioid... That

1:42:00

you we could see in a in a

1:42:02

different light Food

1:42:06

for thought not making a case

1:42:08

to do it, but I'm saying that I think that's

1:42:10

I just I mean that's fine But I just like

1:42:12

I said, there's Seven

1:42:14

days in a week. Mm-hmm. This is one

1:42:17

of them I bet it's now

1:42:19

I just got a Message

1:42:21

from the guy I'm supposed to go to do

1:42:23

the Jackson Comic Con with and

1:42:25

he's saying that He

1:42:27

can't make it but his dad's going

1:42:29

to be my handler okay,

1:42:32

and it's

1:42:35

like It's

1:42:37

the whole situation is now changing

1:42:40

and of course. I'm the

1:42:42

one this this Advertise

1:42:45

to show up and now it's just like I

1:42:47

don't know whether My

1:42:50

guarantee is gonna be there Question

1:42:53

that I would ask in reply to my

1:42:55

exactly that gonna be there with the check

1:42:59

No, I won't take a fucking check or

1:43:01

whatever You know,

1:43:03

it's like that's what I'm saying. It's just

1:43:05

like yeah, but I'm just saying

1:43:07

this now It's a fucked up deal. I don't

1:43:09

know anything. It's just like So

1:43:12

now I just I have a feeling that I just

1:43:15

won't fucking go All

1:43:18

right It's not worth it

1:43:20

to me. It's not worth it to me to

1:43:22

fucking get fly get there and And

1:43:26

get fucked Gotcha,

1:43:30

yeah enough that's what's gonna happen for sure And

1:43:33

I don't know that that's what's gonna happen But

1:43:36

last time I was with this guy it was a little

1:43:38

he was a little light and had to fucking Send

1:43:41

me a fucking cashiers and so

1:43:44

so Dude

1:43:47

fuck man Who

1:43:51

Else in the house more

1:43:53

people Steve Rock maniac

1:43:55

shown will be joining Kev in

1:43:57

Montreal in July. It's a comic

1:43:59

It's not a fucking, uh,

1:44:02

I was the voice of Orson the Berserker in the,

1:44:04

uh, anime

1:44:07

manga series, uh, Record of Lodos

1:44:09

War. But

1:44:13

I skipped because it was a

1:44:15

non-union gig and I couldn't use my name so I can't

1:44:17

even cash in on the wild success of that show.

1:44:20

You believe that? Unbelievable. These guys do signings at these things from

1:44:22

those, those

1:44:24

anime things. But it was

1:44:26

a non-union so I didn't know my name.

1:44:29

So I can't go. I could never do those things. That's

1:44:32

huge now. There's signings of just anime people. Yeah,

1:44:36

I know. It's crazy. Alright, one more.

1:44:40

Give me somebody. Give me a lucky one. Have

1:44:43

you seen the movie, uh, this is from Headingite.

1:44:45

Have you seen the movie Civil War with Kirsten

1:44:47

Dunst? No, because I heard, I didn't hear anything

1:44:49

good about it. I

1:44:53

think actually Wes, Wes was the first one that, that

1:44:56

saw it that I know and Wes

1:44:58

said, eh. Yeah.

1:45:01

Premise wise, I don't,

1:45:03

I don't know. I know why it's marketable

1:45:05

right now, obviously, but, you know. I just

1:45:08

heard that it's, it's the, the vagueness of it makes it not,

1:45:10

not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not,

1:45:16

not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not,

1:45:22

not. It's almost like if you were to

1:45:24

say, hey, what about Shane at AW? It's

1:45:27

just that vagueness of Shane at

1:45:29

AW. Absolutely.

1:45:32

It's not, it's not enough. What about,

1:45:34

what about Civil War? Who's, who's the war in

1:45:36

fact? I

1:45:39

heard this and somebody was explaining it. It

1:45:42

was a celebrity that was explaining it because

1:45:46

it's, it's called Civil

1:45:48

War, but somehow in this

1:45:50

fucking movie, Texas

1:45:52

and California are on the

1:45:54

same side. Oh,

1:45:57

that's funny. And I

1:45:59

went, oh. Oh, yeah.

1:46:01

Definitely work a fiction. That sentence

1:46:03

right there is enough for me

1:46:05

to go. All right. So

1:46:07

this is Wesley real quick. The, I listened to

1:46:09

a bunch of interviews with the director and I

1:46:11

do like the movie. I think the movie is

1:46:14

worth seeing, but it's,

1:46:16

they bend over backwards not to make

1:46:18

it. It's specific to

1:46:20

this time. Republicans versus Democrats or specific.

1:46:22

And he specifically said he wanted to

1:46:24

show that the government was taking over

1:46:27

so much that even Texas

1:46:29

and California band together against the

1:46:31

government, that it wasn't about typical

1:46:34

red versus blue shit. It was beyond that.

1:46:37

But everybody who went and saw it wanted,

1:46:40

how did this start? And it's not about

1:46:43

how it started. It's about a very

1:46:45

focused small group of people just being

1:46:47

in it. It's much more about like

1:46:49

war journalism and photographers

1:46:51

who risked their life to capture

1:46:53

moments. That's way more what it's

1:46:55

about. Did anybody watch any, any

1:46:58

news before they came down today? There

1:47:01

was a thing. Let me think

1:47:03

who it might've been on. Might've been

1:47:05

on Wallace's show, but

1:47:08

so there's a guy that

1:47:10

interviewed Trump after

1:47:14

he spoke to Geraldo and

1:47:19

Trump is talking to this guy and Trump

1:47:21

says, yeah, I talked to

1:47:23

him right after I lost. He

1:47:26

said lost. Yeah, after I talked

1:47:28

to him right after I lost. And

1:47:32

then the guy was like, you lost? And then

1:47:34

he kind of backtracked. But

1:47:37

so. Very

1:47:39

interesting. Very interesting. It's

1:47:43

like right now it's like 41, 41. Like

1:47:47

it's like, you know, it's

1:47:49

basically a column. Yeah,

1:47:52

this is where we're living. Every election it's

1:47:54

like this. in

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1:48:08

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1:48:18

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1:48:23

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1:48:30

us free to fade away into eternity.

1:49:00

A circle

1:49:03

age you've come

1:49:06

to love me,

1:49:10

and now I'm frozen

1:49:12

and dead blessed. Oh

1:49:20

Sophie, I

1:49:23

knew I long was

1:49:25

a dream. But

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the customer service

1:49:34

never answers the

1:49:37

thing. Well,

1:49:45

let us free

1:49:48

to breathe in air we're

1:49:51

supposed to break. Don't

1:50:00

you love me? Now

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1:50:06

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1:50:08

all broken And

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