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0:17

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0:31

always say. You

0:43

made a name.

0:50

Hi, I'm a huge fan of.

0:52

We were always face

0:55

college, hi, melanie

0:59

there but I was like no read. about

1:01

or double do that sit around worse but the others

1:04

lean and saga little bit about alex

1:06

don't know indeed we are they allow

1:08

them to go jordan question was up

1:10

watch my spot my bright spots they dirt and

1:12

is i was hanging out with my friends

1:14

are angela lansbury iran

1:17

does yeah gave me a late

1:19

christmas present moon name that

1:22

there could be no other bright spot and these because

1:24

z made Magic. Cards

1:27

ah that to take a look at these and sees

1:29

you as the oh wow some specially

1:32

designed I have a car fuck out of

1:34

his ah ahmet picture on. Twitter,

1:37

well yes, but one of them is

1:40

you get yes or my

1:43

broadcasting fancy, which I will take as

1:45

a compliment yes you'd

1:47

have and with her. Loud yelling feel

1:49

marriage did target ear equal to the debris

1:51

plus what was what doubters others guard valid

1:54

for others one that is that is me,. he

1:57

said to an end to the discern

1:59

or Your name is way better than mine rumors

2:02

were legendary creatures or there's also

2:04

one of Saline the feline either feline

2:07

contests of course I did not

2:09

tell her, that these are

2:11

all massively over powered car.

2:14

a blouse well here twenty one

2:16

so you hope we both are because like

2:18

act yes that's true of yell at his job as

2:21

behaves it's just so fun

2:23

and them and it as six nice of there's

2:25

collection coming together of like The

2:28

unique magically that Antacid

2:30

the don't really go anywhere else

2:33

know you would never ever have imagined

2:35

anything like this, and it's incredible

2:37

to imagine there's thank you, Angela Lansbury,

2:39

we appreciate it and Earth to.

2:42

What? What a delight, yes, very much

2:44

the whole way, I well that now supersedes

2:46

my bright spot for being my bright spot, so mine

2:48

is immediately no longer bright spot, but what?

2:51

had before me was,

2:53

am ignite his least not really previously

2:56

on bright spot Joffe Ah

2:59

for our other horizon for Mid West

3:01

and I've downloaded I'm one. Hundreds

3:04

were ons was were voting has more hoarding

3:06

this tomorrow, oh

3:08

I'm excited I've been looking forward to Planet Zero

3:10

Dawn is my favorite this great zig

3:13

amazing I've been. Looking for

3:15

do this for awhile as well as bet

3:17

we can't find P's lives as they're still

3:19

furious associated

3:22

with looking for a year, yeah,

3:24

it says Czar's is

3:26

commodity. Goods are not supposed to work that way,

3:29

it's yeah, like it's nice system or something

3:31

ahead, Sony, it's

3:33

it is funny, it's nice,

3:35

you know, before I would. Look at, like, a P'S

3:37

s two or a P'S s three, and I would say boy,

3:40

want one of those because cannot afford

3:42

it via and now I'm like. Oh

3:44

I'm in a better place in my life I can get me one

3:46

of, the no not

3:48

reality and or the world will not allowing

3:50

worst Ah. so jordan today

3:53

get up so to do

3:55

And tell her that we're doing this just

3:57

to kill some time before you

3:59

can play her eyes. Here it is.

4:01

all just waiting game from a farm

4:04

and so today our it's other thought about

4:06

it as like you know what i have we

4:08

been talking to the present too damn much

4:10

has been law it's been constant

4:12

is roger stone okay need some money

4:14

under of the it's been a lotta

4:16

twenty two episodes in is

4:19

string and the need break and so i

4:21

decided to poke around,

4:23

see what I could find a project: Camelot

4:26

disappointing match and Baker no good, Seth

4:28

the so I went back to the past two thousand

4:30

three and got unfortunately there's a string

4:32

of episodes that are so

4:34

boring. Nothing. Is happening

4:37

and it's just disaster and

4:39

so we end up having to skip to

4:41

July seventeenth, Bisoli

4:43

did was the eleventh yes as we jump to the Seventies

4:46

two. Thousand three before we can find anything

4:49

that is worth going over but it

4:51

is so worth going over how can

4:53

I feel excited? feel

4:56

delighted to have the this

4:58

episode the most fun many

5:01

stories is Alex, being an

5:03

idiot and some of it

5:05

accidentally relates to the present day, and ways

5:07

that didn't expect that, cuz you're a which Which

5:10

by the way, part of my Powers.

5:13

That's true. I am a legendary creature human,

5:15

which according to his magic,

5:17

the

5:24

first, Stephen, the UK. Thank you so and

5:26

I'll probably walk. I'm policy want

5:28

access, they are next crackers.

5:31

Bikers ocools. Thank you so much

5:33

you're now. If I was, you want a 2022,

5:37

busted, good

5:46

spelling of afric I i don't know how else you

5:48

would spell ever. anyway your policy I'm

5:51

a policy walk I get live next

5:53

Guantanamo Bay, but it's they be

5:55

a eog realize

5:57

you're now Baldwin. I'm policy.

6:00

I think about you know, so could have gone, could

6:02

have seen a being be, why would you

6:04

would have been very different type of Guantanamo

6:06

that's true guess troops I'd finally

6:08

Alec Snowden da no relation

6:11

thank you so much you are now opposes?

6:13

Then. Policy want thank you very much good sport

6:15

about that is it could be no relation to Edward

6:17

Snowden Rory could be no related to Alex

6:19

Jones because people sometimes related

6:21

by. First night that is as I've heard

6:23

him say that yes I have in

6:25

definitely heard them say that yes so,

6:28

we are going to be with. You to be deal with this

6:31

two thousand and three episodes, and actually think

6:33

right off the jump we kind of have

6:35

something that relates to the present day of.

6:37

And that is an insistence

6:39

that. there's that

6:42

of false flags comment Former

6:44

Defense Secretary. Says that,

6:46

you know.

6:47

Nukes will go off in U. S. cities,

6:50

it's going to happen course U. S.

6:52

off off. And a hey they'll

6:54

love it, A goes off an a city they'll have even

6:56

more have an excuse to. Is to

6:58

tell you the government's your boss going to take all

7:00

your rights for your safety? The course

7:02

it won't be North Korea detonating that new folks.

7:06

Will be the shadow government and out of that.

7:09

All of your training, all of their take over

7:11

systems, will be activated. "The

7:13

things are going to go downhill very, very quickly,

7:15

or we could speak out and get involved and

7:17

blow the whistle inside and outside of government"

7:20

Stand up against the military, industrial complex

7:23

and side of America. The

7:25

yuppies in the bureaucrats and all of your

7:27

and for rude awakening you can't go on

7:29

being part of an evil system for ever

7:31

and not have turn on you. You're

7:33

all about the find out. The

7:36

evolve and finding out individually overtime

7:38

but to find out mass scale

7:40

what's your masters think of you will dirty

7:44

so. we're entering the night circle of hell

7:46

ladies and gentlemen are the only evidence

7:48

is there twenty years ago wow

7:51

so we urge the prediction here

7:53

is essentially their to there's gonna be false

7:55

flag north korea nuke and know us

7:57

city and scrappy do world war three right wing

8:00

Of. course all happened, yeah, but it probably

8:02

didn't are just because Alex talked about it and

8:04

stop to the evil globalist plants, well,

8:06

I mean it was good because the A.S.

8:09

Is what I've seen is that the yuppies have not

8:11

yet all woken up, so doesn't seem

8:13

like a to was, I says

8:15

Alex to stop that.

8:17

And protect the yuppies from the

8:19

you know they are the dark limited a real step

8:21

is in break blinding,.

8:25

out all of society as beds towards

8:27

coddling the yuppies so why would we

8:29

allow them to be hurt now the make good point that's

8:32

so i would lay as a there there's real

8:34

stretch of boring shit in two thousand and three

8:36

in july that it had been going through

8:38

to

8:39

It's been to wade through the past ah,

8:42

but I heard Alex talk

8:44

about the world war three. Nuking a

8:46

series and I guy. That boring

8:48

to Ali, could leave that aside and but.

8:51

When I heard this, like, oh, on

8:53

it.

8:54

All right ladies and gentlemen come on op

8:56

that about or twelve minutes.

8:58

we're going to be joined by angela

9:01

lips man's father The

9:04

line. Hey, how's

9:06

college with kid? fifteen

9:09

year old Manhattan girl, whose parents sent her

9:11

to college sort of high school,

9:13

has been told by a judge that she can't get

9:15

our associate's degree. You are now

9:18

she's got enough credits, and city officials

9:20

launch an educational neglect row

9:23

above against her dad.

9:25

This. Is a story that his streams

9:27

that it's existing on our iowans is your rights

9:30

added, like out, there's gotta be something here

9:32

that you know this, whatever details

9:34

that we are. Given currently not be

9:36

the entirety of this store absorbed, as

9:38

gotta be more and also like I wouldn't

9:41

be lying if didn't say that this also kind of spoke.

9:43

To me as somebody who likes,

9:45

yeah, dropped outta high school, sure you know

9:47

there's this educational use

9:50

stuff right in my history right

9:52

and so, you know, there's there's. There's there's

9:54

been a like, ooh, that's that's, yeah, that's

9:57

your I would have had a better chance of graduating college

9:59

if I had skipped. Cool. wouldn't be would

10:01

be surprised about that, and obviously

10:03

if she's this person is taking college

10:06

classes in high school, it does require

10:08

getting a ged are dropping out I

10:10

am. In some way, just walk in

10:13

right and as a ged recipient is

10:15

nice, it's less of that I

10:17

dropped outta high school more that got GD. Right

10:19

that makes this is something that the

10:21

deep me speak for a deep in the story

10:23

horse arm as well as I'm excited

10:26

to have to hear about this as got. Ah, but

10:28

first Alex has to dwell on how.

10:30

It is person who's too smart in the system

10:33

I can lay down why the more details

10:35

we're going to get as the and of a bad, yeah.

10:37

So that's New America folks you excel,

10:40

you are punished, you're a mindless idiot

10:42

you're rewarded. Aaron,

10:45

than ours are all riled, kidnapping services

10:47

are getting home schoolers nation

10:49

wide. nationwide,

10:52

viciously attacking them. The

10:54

removes the bar them from spelling bees.

10:57

And from geography be because they keep

10:59

winning every day sir,

11:02

I. Haven't seen report where it wasn't home schooler

11:05

for someone from private school, so they're attacking,

11:07

not viciously I don't know

11:09

kind, a local spelling bees Alex My be

11:11

including. And is statistics years I can't really prove

11:14

that that's bullshit sport a can do is

11:16

discuss the big national one.

11:18

The largest spelling bee in the one they're using televised

11:21

is these scripts national spelling bee in

11:23

his that's the one that the venue in the movie a key

11:25

lay in the be and of course the documentary spellbound

11:28

that. spelling bee started in nineteen

11:30

twenty seven and the first home schooled

11:32

winner was rebecca see often in

11:34

nineteen ninety seven after

11:36

her george santayana oh my god i remember

11:39

i'll tell you why because the scripts that

11:41

i'm sorry this is soviets our response

11:43

at a response from scripts that on around guess

11:45

know put down the gun i've got i've read or optometry

11:48

now i the other thing that the spelling bee

11:50

is great for is it was all

11:53

of the best episodes of cheap seats starring

11:55

the sklar brothers and see had

11:57

a just fantastic up as

12:00

Oh. Gosh, he was great on the show, she was grader's

12:02

amazing what she was the first home schooled winner walk

12:05

and seventy years after the home school

12:07

or their the be started. Us almost after

12:09

her George therapy and Sean Connery,

12:11

both one as home schoolers and two thousand and two

12:13

thousand and one than six years later in two

12:15

thousand and seven avenue. Dorney one bring

12:18

the total do for home schooled winners and

12:20

eighty two years of. alex wants

12:22

to talk about who are really dominating the spelling

12:24

bee game he stuck with students from india

12:27

they are far and away the most consistent winners

12:29

about crossing modern times yeah third

12:31

recent years of the scripts be the

12:34

idea that home schooled children a beating kids go

12:36

to public school and all these glass the competitions

12:38

isn't true it's just centerpiece of

12:40

home school propaganda and to be clear

12:42

i don't think there's something inherently wrong with making

12:45

the decision to home school your child

12:47

but do think it's unhealthy foods

12:49

motivated from the sort of place but alex has gone

12:51

from where it's like the schools are evil

12:53

and indoctrinate your kids into globalism and

12:55

multiculturalism the usually that bad that

12:57

don't think is a healthy impulse

13:00

or instinct I understand

13:02

some people have. More.

13:05

Rational. Reasons for home school right leg:

13:07

If you were say a phd in pedagogy,

13:10

you would be like, "Maybe I'm better than

13:12

this elementary school teacher, I honestly

13:14

think that might" Be unhealthy to the super

13:16

on how the sale with your narcissism, not our

13:18

our, think if you are like a phd

13:20

in therapy, you should also be your own child.

13:22

Therapist for that seems that makes that makes most

13:25

sense to me I'm not here to delineate what is

13:28

our, health reasons home school sizes

13:30

know that some are not. ,

13:32

answer of so he's got

13:34

this incredible noses gotta interview this

13:37

as whiz kid, and but first i mean

13:39

there's just important other things that must

13:41

be discussed

13:42

The news is incredible, but I

13:44

do have a death threat email I get these

13:46

about every week. The

13:49

and. Basically, you

13:51

did says that i'm was outside up because

13:53

believe in freedom. And

13:56

that's that the guy says

13:58

he's in taxes. That of are broken

14:00

to talk to somebody trouble. Well,

14:02

I'm i'm right here in Texas or

14:05

come on, yeah, come early, come

14:07

get me, you know where live, you can be, was here that you

14:09

like lack of enthusiasm, but Alex

14:11

as about some a threatening to kill him up or

14:14

whatever.

14:15

Not. A purse it's strange, but he

14:17

feels the need to bring this up like really have a top

14:19

of the show them, but also

14:21

the lack of conviction and passion.

14:24

Is is glaring, yeah, I

14:26

think want I'm with

14:28

Al Qaeda on a shirt and I

14:30

hand pointing to the person next

14:33

to me, oh, that's what really want. To go

14:35

through don't put that on our guard

14:37

in the absolutely end up going

14:39

through airport security tomorrow, whereas

14:41

that cert's just to see what kind of stuff

14:43

can. "Seek out, you know, that idea susceptibility

14:46

heard, as think it's great of so

14:49

Alex list of a bunch of nonsense

14:51

evidence that to the globalist have been

14:53

trying to" dumb down the population for the

14:55

last.

14:56

forever yeah, I'm a success

14:59

and then the proof of this is this Angela

15:01

Lipsman, okay, I'd go with kids.

15:04

Read the official U.S. government Senate documents

15:06

were they say an educated population is hard

15:08

to govern. The to destroy the thinking

15:11

process of the American people that's over one hundred years

15:13

old. Unesco

15:15

plans are from the fifties. Saying

15:18

that the families, the enemy. Must

15:21

be destroyed, Bush course, a signing on the that.

15:24

The former head of policy department of education,

15:26

number two possession in the first regular ministrations

15:29

relatives living on. The has

15:31

the official documents were the you. internal

15:33

documents classified documents. They

15:35

talk about how they want to train the kids would be mindless

15:37

idiots. The

15:40

"you don't see any greater evidence of how

15:42

they don't want any free minds out there",

15:45

them New York Post late reported. What

15:48

Angelo lives, man? The

15:50

who got into college and eleven. They

15:52

don't know you had dated college. Which

15:55

one and has three point

15:57

eight grade average and they were very

15:59

proud of. Her and now the judge

16:01

got Mom says you can have your degree that

16:03

got our. The public school.

16:06

The know your government training camp for proper

16:08

dumbing down.

16:09

Then. (CPS) Child grabbing

16:11

services have been called an hour,

16:13

good lying about the situation with Angela

16:15

or Diploma, but also all that other stuff

16:18

it was nonsense right he was getting.

16:20

into and a these documents and Unesco

16:22

shares, I shall we talked about a lot of as the passive

16:24

die as any that water off duck's back

16:26

on those so the. Angela, the basic gist

16:29

of is this Angele's been taken

16:31

college courses through the borough of Manhattan

16:33

Community College for the past three years

16:36

at this point since she was eleven countries.

16:38

Now fourteenth St sheet earned enough

16:40

credits to get an associate's degree, apparently

16:42

there had been some interest from Vassar to have

16:44

her come continue her education there, but she

16:47

can't because. The Community College can't

16:49

give her associate's degree rise,

16:51

this is because you can't get higher level degree

16:53

without some form of primary degree you

16:56

can graduate high school and. Get diploma or

16:58

you can get an equivalence like ged and

17:00

that works, but most states have

17:02

rules in place that you can't get ged until the

17:04

age you. Would be when you would graduate

17:06

high school and Angele's case in

17:08

New York, you have to be seventeen, is

17:10

rules in place for number of reasons, but it's

17:13

primarily. Because the socially of fourteen

17:15

or fifteen year old isn't ready to be in

17:17

college setting generally enter,

17:19

even if you're intellectually able to handle the classroom

17:22

materials that can be. dicey right

17:24

we've seen. the results of

17:27

that too many times the barren out

17:29

as brutal the bare minimum for

17:31

the this is generally sixteen years

17:33

old for ged ah issuing

17:36

and states as the minimum age in

17:38

most states that you can drop

17:40

out of high school period ending be allowed

17:42

to do that it's generally seen as preferred

17:45

path for student to skip great if they're

17:47

over achieving because the alternatives

17:49

don't really seem to be super

17:51

healthy for child broadly speaking plus

17:54

when children over achieve this aggressively it's

17:56

often sign that they might be experiencing some

17:58

unhealthy influence from parents Like.

18:00

The equivalent of an academic state's parents

18:02

and that something that you don't necessarily

18:05

want to facilitate, fry as society,

18:07

yeah, yeah odds you want to have kind

18:09

of some some. Guard rails and place

18:12

at the very least you don't encourage it, sir,

18:14

yes, sir, and there are tons of stories

18:16

he can find of people like Angela who

18:19

have studied college. Level

18:21

courses and gotten credits

18:23

prior to graduating from high school,

18:26

but typically you like it, you won't

18:28

be awarded your degree. Even

18:30

if you earn all the credit for it in,

18:32

tell you have an equivalence of highschool, yeah,

18:35

it's just.

18:36

Pretty. consistently across the board, yeah,

18:38

how it has to go the I tried to pull it off,

18:41

they would you let me find loot the got

18:43

in trouble for almost every. High school

18:45

also well as advanced placement classes

18:47

like a p classes that are you can translate

18:50

to correct credit, yeah, whittingham as you can

18:52

take the test afterwards, but it happened.

18:54

Was I said his style of those and

18:56

so had a huge chunk of my schedule that

18:58

was empty, so I convince them to

19:00

let me go to be a community?

19:02

College and take courses there by to,

19:05

I hated, though, so found out that you could test

19:07

out of those classes and get credit for them

19:09

so like instead of going. To go out like

19:11

a game, as yeah, I just kept taking

19:13

all these tests and getting grades the secret

19:15

grades of these glasses, but never went so

19:18

eventually they found. Out that us, who was spending

19:20

half of my day outside of school doing fuck

19:22

off, and they got real mad at me, so

19:24

wasn't allowed to keep doing that, yeah. It's

19:27

again that's not what, oh yes,

19:29

agree as a is nice. Not.

19:33

Beneficial to facilitate

19:35

that looks better, Euro, how, however, read one

19:37

of raises and I was immediately gotta push

19:39

back on you as like they shouldn't be doing that and I. Remember

19:41

my started as snore get it if that's

19:44

how it works, good authors also more

19:46

to Angele's story, not in this whole

19:48

thing that Alex's letting on, and

19:50

they. Will get into that as we go along,

19:53

so when we start off, we

19:55

get to this interview going. Alex

19:58

is interviewing her.

20:00

And Daniel Lippman and

20:02

she chimes in a couple times a,

20:04

but it seems like it's mostly it's.

20:06

We're joined by Daniel Lips Month and

20:09

a he is daughter, Angela Lipsman.

20:12

And we really appreciate you, come on show today.

20:15

Places to be here so right off the

20:17

bat. No real red flags. Then

20:20

he starts talking.

20:21

I. Got I got some verbs problems

20:24

and everything to do with an arbitrary to

20:26

push his age requirement for high school

20:29

diplomas that was totally wrong, the

20:31

relevant to the academic. Achievements of

20:33

the former it,

20:35

was absolutely awesome, was it

20:38

is er am est the most

20:40

decision weeks that, suits

20:43

it appears to me the guy went to. Law school

20:45

became a church where blissfully ignorant as

20:47

bill of rights to the turn

20:49

blind eye to how we, get along disgrace

20:52

for justice the constitution of. , judiciary

20:55

cynical decision only reinforces the sponsors

20:57

muzzle laws, whatever the church

21:00

this is clearly reading office

21:02

groups like a diatribe games

21:04

I was really interesting to me to A. Alex tried

21:06

to interject and you to Stevenage as

21:08

quick as yeah that was interesting, don't

21:10

know if I've ever heard Alex like just

21:12

taken, taken out like and

21:15

then. They did and then inserted the break

21:17

music started playing very shortly after

21:19

that, yet so kinda weird,

21:21

but that a member of the really see

21:23

that kind of behavior from. Someone who's against

21:25

are no call in and death, so when

21:28

I wouldn't look at the totality of evidence have

21:30

in front of me and all the information I've been able. To find

21:32

so care much for, this Daniel Lipsman character

21:35

it's wants to support your very intelligent

21:37

child's pursuit of appropriate education but

21:39

it's another thing entirely to do with he. seems

21:41

to be involved in for

21:43

one thing the whole study in college

21:45

at age eleven thing it appears to

21:47

have been daniels idea and

21:49

a twenty eleven profile on angela in

21:52

the borough of manhattan community colleges

21:54

web sites angela describes how she

21:56

got started quote my dad

21:58

admit mckeon with done Who was then

22:00

assistant to the vice president for student

22:02

affairs and broach the idea of enrolling

22:05

me and summer courses?

22:06

This. Was just after she graduated fifth

22:09

grade and I don't know how that story

22:11

doesn't include, told my

22:13

dad really wanted to go to college over the summer,

22:15

so he. Contacted Miss McDonald the

22:17

seat, the way it's phrased "make it makes it really

22:19

seemed like this was something that he was motivated

22:21

to, am my dad", said was going. To Community

22:24

College it's yeah,

22:26

i don't see

22:28

as much agency of from her in the

22:30

way the she tells the story and that in that profile

22:33

it does sound like my dad went behind my

22:35

back talk to this mucky mucks

22:37

grocery Idea" and then the next thing I

22:39

knew, he said, "I've been roles you in summer courses

22:42

at the Community College, and don't

22:44

think that you necessarily get the sense

22:46

that she's super opposed to

22:48

it or anything, but it does seem like he's

22:51

the the. Then. (Caboose)

22:53

It sounds like if you are give if you are asking

22:55

me that question about as swimming lessons

22:57

or be like, "Well, my parents, saw

23:00

an ad in the paper" And then or the next

23:02

thing knew was that swimming lessons

23:04

to be very similar, so when you read this profile,

23:06

you get a sense that she's an amazing

23:09

we. Capable and driven person, but

23:11

also the level of stress and responsibility

23:13

that was being put on her that age I think is

23:16

wildly inappropriate. From

23:18

the profile quote: "I went to school

23:20

every day like everyone else", she says, "but

23:22

to evenings a week I took the subway downtown

23:24

to Chambers Street to attend classes at B.

23:26

M. C.C. c when she got home

23:28

she'd to first tackle her sixth grade homework.

23:31

That was the most challenging part to admit, but

23:34

somehow I was able to get enough sleep and wake

23:36

up, refresh the next day, ready to do it all

23:38

over again, more sounds

23:40

not great. Oh man

23:43

so this would make me a bit weary but

23:45

the reality is that this isn't even the first time

23:47

the Daniel Lipsman is used as trial to try

23:49

to bring legal action against the schools

23:52

and. ninety nine lips been sued the new

23:54

york city board of education because he felt

23:56

that their uniform policy quote violate

23:58

their rights to free speech Equal. Protection

24:01

privacy and liberty under the first night

24:03

and fourteenth amendments the, judge

24:05

found his case they have no merit so Lipsman

24:07

ask are acting as the lawyer it for

24:09

himself. And the carry our, we, what did

24:11

we did you need to say that enables me to

24:14

hear that he was acting as well as his own lawyer are

24:16

technically not his? And letter of amateur and second.

24:18

wave that he waved all the claims and

24:21

the judge gave the school board summary judgments

24:23

and informed lipsman that if he didn't get an actual

24:25

lawyer for the case it would be dismissed

24:28

he felt lucky to be able to represent his

24:30

daughter pro se but it's establish

24:32

law that you can't appear pro se for someone

24:34

else you can only do that if you're representing

24:36

yourself right so he was in the wrong here

24:38

couldn't do it yeah that

24:40

Finally. By everybody's entitled to an attorney kind

24:42

of thing right there and the of

24:45

you know if you're not a lawyer and you're

24:47

insisting on representing your child brides,

24:49

you're depriving them. Exactly, yeah,

24:51

they are entitled to lawyer, as you are not want

24:53

the out there, so Lipsman didn't get lawyer

24:55

and then decided to appeal the case, arguing

24:58

that quote. The District Court's dismissal

25:00

of Angele's claims on the ground that he lacked an attorney

25:02

deprived her of her to write to day

25:04

in court.

25:05

Wow, really taken some

25:08

swings, then I is a big swimmer

25:10

disappear would be rejected and be

25:12

prior dismissal of for.

25:14

It. Is right around the time, but Angela was graduating

25:16

fifth grade and starting college courses

25:19

taken together I can't help but get a little

25:21

bit of picture of someone not acting. From place

25:23

of trying to do with the best for his child's, but

25:26

actually more someone who's acting out and using their

25:28

child as prop. Otherwise it's

25:30

hard to understand how he wouldn't get lawyer

25:32

to try the case about uniforms is I

25:34

was actually a with your with his was about

25:36

like these underlying claims, as opposed to like getting

25:38

chance to grandstand in front of court.

25:41

There. Is a little seeming of via,

25:44

you know, oh, well, you won't let me do this

25:46

cause of the dress code fine, then I'll put my

25:48

kid and community college metal

25:50

so. Yeah, I can't, I, you know, can't demonstrate

25:53

that many way, no, doesn't

25:55

it out, odors, arles, seems there, yeah,

25:57

and guys an asshole, but Daniels

25:59

issues.

26:00

Go! Back even further than that, of course,

26:02

I was able to find a New York Times article from

26:04

Nineteen Ninety Three about how New York

26:06

schools were delaying in opening

26:08

that school. Year because there was fear about as

26:10

best as they were doing thorough investigation

26:12

for letting kids in Angela

26:15

was about to begin kindergarten and, according

26:17

to this article, Daniel. Had taken the school

26:19

board to court to try to force them to

26:21

open the schools on September ninth ultimately

26:23

losing that case you, could look

26:25

at this as him having. Previously been really into

26:28

schools and then few years later going honored

26:30

eighty degrees, but I actually think that this behavior

26:32

tracks perfectly with his later actions,

26:35

he seems like. "To sue people particularly

26:37

the school board and would guess he has a fairly

26:39

libertarian leaning", said politics,

26:41

"So I guess you'd probably be super opposed

26:44

to spending money to" Inspect school for as best

26:46

as at such as red tape, wasted money,

26:48

a bureaucracy eggs, if I mean what you

26:50

bit of free markets to choose whether or not as

26:52

best. As kills my child, and there's

26:55

a weird string here going back

26:57

to ninety three of him repeatedly

26:59

suing the school board for things

27:01

they

27:02

Seem. A little weird, yeah, I imagine this

27:04

is a guy who has card ready and waiting

27:07

it as security checkpoint just like you don't

27:09

have the right to search my car. Sir,

27:11

thank you very much spray this fight that

27:13

he's having over the diploma

27:15

issue is not the first

27:17

time that he's tried to tangle

27:19

with the school board on,

27:22

his. presumably on his daughter's behalf, right,

27:24

rare and may radically on as map

27:26

to me is troubling pattern

27:28

of behavior, yeah, I mean, you

27:31

know, imagine every.

27:33

Single person involved when he walks

27:35

in the door went ah God this guy so

27:38

that's not a good place to be I don't want to be they'll.

27:40

also if up to pieces information about daniel

27:42

lipsman that i found shocking one

27:44

of them can prove and the other one is

27:46

a little bit unclear

27:48

The agree with Dead, the whole time not

27:50

look at the one that's unclear, is that I think

27:52

he wrote a book in Nineteen, seventy two titled

27:55

"The Jewish Connection"

27:59

There's a living.

28:00

Their. Book being written by Daniel Gene Lipsman

28:02

in the Library of Congress has catalogue of copyright

28:05

entries but I can't find the actual book

28:07

and can't one hundred percent confirm that.

28:09

This is the same person that

28:11

is definitely his middle name, though, as

28:14

Earthy, but the odds are pretty good and in

28:16

my experience of your title, a book, the Jewish. Connection

28:18

the by eyebrows go up, yeah,

28:21

and I, if you are

28:23

person multiple, ummah, suing

28:25

the school board multiple times for to

28:27

cuttack stuff. You're. The type

28:29

of bullshit person who wrote the Jewish connection:

28:31

"I think that that's real obviously

28:33

we don't have any access to the book know

28:36

be making undo assumptions about

28:38

A. Where I have no idea possible, but

28:40

it's strange take present look backwards,

28:42

the think can prove is that in twenty

28:44

lipsman received exactly one vote

28:47

in the race for. The thirteenth District, how seat

28:49

in New York?

28:50

It. Seems like not too far fetched to assume

28:53

that he voted for himself size, a little

28:55

goes to vote for yourself, which means that

28:57

he ended up playing with such luminaries is.

28:59

Eugene V dabs Alma aren't be

29:01

singer Keith Sweat and a misspelling

29:04

of Katt Williams way, so Eugene

29:06

Debs was dead the whole time maybe he's

29:08

dead the whole time and I'm. A mass

29:10

drags there's a second vote or right and

29:12

vote for Daniel Day Lipsman for his

29:15

might have right, and I

29:17

think that might have been hip which I. Did he

29:19

accidentally misspelled his own name on a boat which

29:21

would be the he beat Keith Sweat

29:24

and I tied with t these Jon Stewart?

29:27

so close app that point is i

29:29

get the sense of this guy's not really acting above

29:31

board and there's a part of me to feel bad

29:33

for angela no one under eighteen

29:35

should have literally any exposure

29:37

to enforce particularly not being interviewed

29:39

on it being used to create anti public school

29:42

propaganda yeah the way this

29:44

is being done yeah i found that

29:46

be city every part of this sucks for her

29:48

only the up the up or in

29:51

the and their interview is boring so and can to look

29:53

into too much but this

29:55

incredibly fucked up things

29:57

did end up happening that just baffles me

30:00

Real quick, given email address for folks, them I want

30:02

to contact you, Ah Angeles,

30:04

the have the your email address. Yeah

30:08

okay. Don't want to give it

30:10

our down. I'm

30:12

gonna have to understand people might send you guys

30:15

some federal rulings state

30:17

will not a problem ours is it shares

30:19

it with two other kids and they may not want

30:22

oh I understand them.

30:23

That's. Good instincts on analyze part:

30:25

I can't imagine how Alex couldn't realize that

30:27

giving out the contact information for a fourteen

30:30

year old on his show might be super

30:32

inappropriate thing. For him to do, but

30:34

not to be outdone by Alex is completely

30:37

insane action Daniel Pops

30:39

in and says this that blew

30:41

my fucking mind.

30:43

Well, it folks want get hold of you I'm sure

30:45

they can find out how to do it can get my address,

30:47

though I don't mind that okay go ahead

30:49

Daniel Lipman L. I. P. S.

30:51

I'm N. For for two

30:54

zero, forty four twenty.

30:56

Yeah. So you end up giving out their home address

30:58

complete with apartment number of wow

31:01

that's just not fucking cool at all ah

31:03

bus wow gap

31:05

wow I don't know what I. Don't know what

31:08

kind of like nobody's listening to

31:10

this show as feeling they must have had

31:12

to be able to like this. is safe

31:15

i mean

31:16

Jesus Christ and I feel like you've

31:18

got a copy of catcher in the Rye on him at

31:20

All Times Statcounter I can't

31:23

imagine dodging the bullet of like oh

31:26

shit we almost gave out a child's email address

31:28

and then I'm like David Cameron real

31:30

address yeah. oh

31:32

god she doesn't share that with two other

31:35

little guy or girl sell so this

31:37

whole thing got resolved when angela turned sixteen

31:39

and went to new jersey where she could get ged

31:41

at sixteen as post waiting until she was seventeen

31:44

new york

31:45

You gotta degrees and ended up pursuing a path

31:47

in law as far as I can tell she's practicing

31:49

attorney at it now so good for her

31:51

death ah what's really represented

31:54

yourself during the emancipation ah

31:56

fortunately. this fingerprints still remains

31:59

of this have now Alex Jones, as you're aware,

32:01

this story was told and.

32:03

I know you're a guy. but

32:05

she landed on her feet though and seems to

32:07

be all right i bet she is absolutely

32:10

dynamite it to truths and ally her

32:13

for her to truth in a lie game must be

32:15

out of this world it's just three members

32:18

fancy word for one has moved on

32:25

Yeah, so Alex is like, really.

32:27

Really like, come on.

32:29

The mod wait until years seventeen

32:31

sixteen to get a D.D., it's nonsense.

32:34

albany Supreme Court justice bring our Malone

32:37

rule Monday that because she's not seventeen

32:39

angeles. The too young

32:41

to obtain a high school diploma first

32:43

people in Texas, I know that are thirteen that

32:45

yet. That's ridiculous

32:47

if you can take the test and pass, get out of the

32:50

system.

32:51

Why? Not yeah, that's not true out

32:53

probably thinks early because he feels

32:55

like Texas is a common sense: freedom, state

32:57

the kiss, your you get GP whenever

33:00

you want it feels. Like you're

33:02

free here in Texas, then you are in other

33:04

states, the I buy you have to be sixteen. Then.

33:06

You're not a prayer and off now, okay, so

33:09

that guessed it was really

33:11

interesting, and obviously I really enjoy

33:14

dig again and trying to figure out what the real story

33:16

is. Yeah, you clearly had a great time with that,

33:18

I insist Mr. That three episodes obviously

33:21

offer a lot more variety writer

33:23

of those things I usually. I'm

33:25

not blessed with multiple instances

33:28

of this in one episode to buy,

33:30

but and to learn her dad was one

33:33

story, and Alex has another guess

33:35

that, like, "Holy Shit", this sounds, this sounds

33:37

like it's going to be amazing"

33:39

I'm eight minutes eliminated our, we have

33:41

a doctor. Even worse

33:44

by an unknown on video,

33:46

The Evil, the Secret Mission for the Inner Malaysia,

33:48

new tracks the world's most sinister criminals.

33:50

I

33:53

don't really know what to say about this whole

33:55

story has some my second interval.

33:57

Then when know about the U. N. And

34:00

while than a lot of the crimes was in this

34:02

world.

34:04

But. I will not find out with the Agassiz

34:06

really interesting, that's fascinating is very exciting,

34:09

yeah, feel like we're in you can

34:11

buy a guest spot territory

34:13

we're selling your. Book or the lights, so

34:16

this guy he did name

34:18

himself after Race Ban him from Journey Class,

34:20

I was wondering wanted to be sure

34:22

wondered if you are but. You can confirm that, okay,

34:25

yes, he's written a book called Race against

34:27

Evil Ah and so

34:30

Colonel Race call him the heck it's evil,

34:32

and he he's gotten a. Little bit press

34:34

about this either, interpol agent

34:37

who have. They. Really,

34:39

really extreme story about

34:42

going around Europe and killing people,

34:45

who are involved in these human trafficking and trial

34:47

explanations are rings and Alex

34:49

is little bit ambivalent about. This because he believes

34:51

that Interpol as actually engaging in

34:53

threat trafficking and Rye Rye,

34:56

and so he's having difficult time squaring this,

34:58

but he's going to interview Race Bannon and.

35:02

, assists and got no one is

35:04

ready for this okay the right now RS

35:07

and I believe you and Alex isn't either clue

35:09

how to go to some. calls arm and there's

35:11

a theme in these calls In

35:14

California, in Northern California, welcome.

35:16

Alex, excellent, I just wanted

35:18

to congratulate you on your excellent interview

35:20

with Ann Coulter last week. The

35:23

level of discourse go for her as a good example

35:25

of the dumbing down of America that your discuss:

35:27

I have a linear John Yes

35:29

and Mad is, why does this tell

35:31

you I was thrilled to hear art and flapping

35:33

like a goose has been run over by truck?

35:36

Ha ha there's

35:39

a real truth is i think that most

35:41

of the calls that he gets now about how

35:43

he destroyed him pull through the don't

35:45

recall that don't either but don't

35:48

recall her flapping and haunting like a deuce

35:50

really i recall her laughing

35:52

at how stupid this one yes the and

35:54

that are the this is loose shit

35:57

yeah don't think mean

35:59

didn't know (laugh) But perhaps

36:01

it's taught me a lesson now as he gets another call,

36:03

guess what is what same thing?

36:05

No one was God's had your own the air war ally

36:07

go ahead the our side is why

36:09

I agree. with the last caller

36:12

there

36:13

You did a tremendous job I manner

36:15

just can't stand or to really

36:17

think she something and then he

36:19

did a job she said she said I haven't

36:21

read the Patriot Act as one reason

36:24

subsection know what you wrote

36:26

your boss about how does it take our rights

36:29

now. are liars that know what she said

36:31

no

36:32

But. Yeah, neither on his show nor

36:34

in the book, the outset there's a real

36:37

interesting, the evidence

36:39

massage and real absolutely one hundred

36:41

percent misogyny there there's real. Threat

36:43

of that like in the larger calls of

36:46

like resentment towards this woman

36:48

who thinks she knows things yeah it's

36:51

it's. strange but it's not

36:53

to unexpected since i think

36:56

one of things that really notice about this is the In

36:58

Colder is legit, James mainstream

37:01

relevant, yeah, and so there's a preoccupation

37:03

with an like an obsession with. The

37:06

continuing the conversation about her.

37:08

Long after that interview, happy and red

37:10

and like sort of.

37:12

"He might get some aftershocks of attention

37:14

of the earthquake of the original air

37:16

interview and find ways to a real moldy

37:19

in reshape it is like this heroic

37:21

story", read Alex.

37:23

Vanquish Medusa or rather ever

37:25

write a paper would not surprise

37:27

me to, discover that

37:29

most to the time when Alex. is

37:32

easily dismantled by woman or

37:35

group of men get around him together

37:37

and say that he's so great nice see

37:39

one he's the best s away

37:41

a woman whatever defeat any of us hers

37:44

it was oh amazing how you yelled cupcake

37:46

drunkenly if woman as woman far

37:49

as my year really through your own men

37:51

are better death so

37:53

alex gets to introducing doctor

37:55

david race bannon and

37:58

he reads the excerpt Like

38:00

the little blurb of his book, and I gotta

38:02

say Alex could not sound more board.

38:05

Read some of the excerpts now or,

38:08

the description of race against

38:10

evil the secret mission of the interpol

38:12

agent who tracked the world's most sinister criminals

38:16

This electric, your narrative

38:18

of suspense and intrigue delivers

38:21

a first hand account of heinous

38:23

criminals and Stern, just as

38:25

from the insider's view of David

38:28

Race banner. The age of

38:30

nineteen American us recruited by Interpol

38:32

after he has caught. The deadly riot

38:34

and South Korea. When I could be near

38:37

as bad as trying to work. The darkest

38:39

regions of humanity. The nine

38:41

societies, inhibitors. The

38:44

against. Killing an invoice,

38:46

the agency's role as deliver

38:49

a grim justice to evil doers.

38:52

Beyond the reach of alarm is

38:54

his assignment to take him. I'm

38:56

slave houses of Thailand and

38:58

the disappearance of London's most notorious

39:00

job when I ever. The investigating

39:02

the case. The

39:04

at all eight five eight bombing and

39:07

ragging terrorists and criminals in the United States.

39:10

It's it's an interesting books then suddenly.

39:12

Are? You and your and in the middle of wow it's, this

39:15

is a sleepy board, yeah,

39:17

reading of this yikes, what should be

39:20

that gets high in three, I mean eight

39:22

eight. Sounds ah a

39:24

public the movie yes so

39:27

I, imagine it's probably not as true as

39:29

we would like to be I mean who knows this guy

39:32

mean he's named. After Jonny Quest Care, Caesar's

39:34

that that's have rendered were pretty legit,

39:36

that's an issue of being recruited

39:39

at night team after being caught

39:41

at a South Korean riot that one brazen. Some

39:43

red flags to measure sir that stories

39:45

actually fairly interesting he was ever

39:47

riot and South Korea are like

39:50

student uprising and, he

39:52

got. stabbed by some

39:54

guy yeah and so he ended up having to kill

39:57

And ah, that and then either pull.

40:00

Crude it him right there were really impressed

40:02

with away murdered that guy

40:04

the up at night team interpol it's

40:06

like whoa that's a good murderer yeah there's

40:08

scouting at. riots

40:10

now i'm going to say that sounds

40:12

far fetched but now that i hear it think

40:15

he'll tell a little bit more the details of that

40:17

summary later so we'll get to that when it

40:19

really gets to our right arm bs

40:21

or see here we got recruited him

40:23

and i became part of this unit

40:26

Called. Archangel records are

40:28

correct, goes around it as I see

40:31

their deals with these human trash, ah,

40:33

those minerva tells the story and

40:36

tell us about yourself what happened so sure

40:38

and. wouldn't say Interpol was the good guy

40:41

far from it however certainly,

40:43

the sub directorate of Interpol for which worked

40:45

Archangel. our job

40:48

was to identify those who buy and

40:50

sell children across international

40:52

lines

40:54

Having. Said that you mentioned

40:56

previously couple of times very good points for

40:58

most listeners, it's difficult to wrap

41:01

our brains around this

41:03

type of crime, see their

41:05

him being like different.

41:08

House's point though it's is my second

41:10

point is gonna be like a intervals evil, yeah,

41:12

and he's like, yeah, interpol totally the

41:14

area banal, my part know I'm Dope

41:17

has just. As smart as

41:19

good way I moved to placate Alex's

41:21

concerns is not going to come with, do any hard questions

41:23

I'll concede to his main point

41:25

right out of. A gay, what's the point of having cake

41:28

if he can eat right wrath, so I

41:30

think one of the things that I'd like to do

41:32

as an experiment is serve

41:35

you? Know, want you to experience this information

41:37

and see what you think about

41:39

it, okay, or the red flag right,

41:42

and you already had won that race man who are that?

41:44

One's trouble, yeah, but we're going to begin

41:46

the story the beginning, and we're going to go through

41:48

all the way to the yet and we're going to go

41:51

piece by. Piece to see what is true

41:53

and what's not true, well, mean,

41:55

we don't we can't really know that arise

41:57

point, but just want you to have your instead.

42:00

Sacha, like we do, what do

42:02

you, what do you, as somebody who takes

42:04

in information and assesses

42:06

it right, how do you feel right now

42:09

this guy sounds like a cold blooded

42:11

killer or? And

42:13

I were we're gone to the next clip, we're Alex's

42:16

is to is really trying to nail this part down

42:18

that is like. Sure. There

42:20

are people out there who are running human trafficking

42:22

and what have you, but every time look

42:24

into it it's my enemies

42:26

who are so your isn't that weird, yeah, and so

42:28

let's see a ban on agrees and got so I'm

42:31

saying is every time I tried it back.

42:33

It. Is it's the U. N. into major corporations

42:36

is that M. there

42:38

are federal agencies and other entities are trying

42:41

to stop it, but they always gets? Hold off

42:43

on that when I get to high up the chain exactly

42:45

correct my years with it for

42:48

or when we are assigned to track these individuals

42:51

as many times when. We

42:53

would find with any network of

42:55

the slavery rings, their individuals

42:57

highly place either religious or

43:00

political leaders are people

43:02

out old money and very

43:04

seldom were those individuals are targets.

43:07

Instead, we would target people lower down

43:09

the chain.

43:11

Then it really becomes a.

43:14

an overarching system an intelligence

43:17

As system so, the elite knows how

43:20

close other agencies are getting to work for doing. That

43:23

is correct.

43:24

Well problem number one

43:26

is very simple if, you

43:29

are in control of your story why are you agreeing

43:31

with absolutely random insane things Alex

43:33

to say? yeah i mean of your story

43:35

was true wouldn't you say true things instead

43:38

of be like alex you gotta access exactly

43:40

right unless that is part of his true

43:42

story yeah it's not necessarily

43:44

to say that the you know

43:47

Alex, bringing this up is forcing him to change

43:49

his story right you haven't read his book right

43:51

that might actually be part of

43:53

possible is a motto

43:56

is my story right to do you have

43:58

the construction though of.

44:00

This. Guy is an insider again

44:02

worked at Interpol ah in this in

44:04

this agent's like Angels A are against

44:06

and eighty eight as experienced,

44:09

the interpol is essentially just a cover

44:11

up. Operation Protecting These Really

44:13

Rich and Powerful People While taking

44:15

out Lower Level folks see now

44:18

he didn't say that pleasant.

44:20

meant was that was obliged said

44:22

the and then he said exactly right

44:24

alex right that i have a problem with

44:27

i don't think am in front of my sense

44:29

of it from the fuller interviews don't

44:31

think that he would

44:32

Not. Say that a,

44:35

do what wouldn't you say well he

44:37

would say that he's, killed

44:41

a lot of people yeah, well, I do

44:43

believe there will lot of. People interpol

44:45

who wanted, this terrible

44:47

traffic stop and we're doing everything they could

44:49

to stop it but also know.

44:52

that frequently we

44:54

were not assigned the cases

44:56

where he was very clear and individual

44:59

of significant influence

45:01

was either buying and selling child

45:03

pornography or actually involved in

45:06

purchasing the serves as a child prostitutes

45:10

On believable.

45:11

Now you what assassinate these

45:13

people seems?

45:16

with archangel known as cleaners

45:18

were in essence assassination takes

45:20

yeah Well,

45:23

guess we'll talk about that when you're vog good job

45:25

has been, how did you get into this that's where lack

45:27

of for the story should start? Oh,

45:29

sure, do we want to talk about it when we get back?

45:32

"We've got a few minutes right now it is one hundred, I warn

45:34

you that, but yeah, how to the start well,

45:37

started as a mormon missionary in

45:39

South Korea of all things,

45:41

oh boy, say, I use an assassin. Okay,

45:44

ah, right ah.

45:46

Everyone you, ever see Bloodsport

45:49

move you know how then. resume

45:52

saw her let you know how that's a true story

45:54

that not true story definitely as

45:56

an air of given lot of blood

45:58

sport vibes from this right

46:00

The whom a day I'll get lot of cool with

46:02

vase of get lot us that military

46:04

had the let me go fight in this underground

46:06

tournament thing and I was too good for

46:09

them to get in the way of what.

46:11

they had to keep tabs on me because i'm too good

46:13

as what if i fight he gets old government well

46:16

Then. Other little to together the I'm having

46:18

a vagina, it's totally understandable: the

46:20

average citizen story is

46:22

why own path I as he's part of an assassination

46:25

team saw AH. I. Think that there

46:27

is a strange trend in some

46:29

of these guessed that Alex has their, they

46:31

like to portray themselves as

46:33

hit men are Larry Nichols has

46:35

claimed that he killed. People for the coins core

46:38

hard right softer, I suppose yes that

46:40

is, it's, yeah, don't

46:42

understand why do these folks just insist

46:44

on a plane up murder? Credentials

46:47

don't know I don't well at whether

46:49

true or not because we know and Larry's cases bowl said

46:51

he admitted "been right about that right, well,

46:53

yeah, is this case this?" Guy Still might have been

46:55

an actual right leaner, right, don't

46:58

know too many people who am

47:00

in, you know, don't know too many

47:02

people who have killed anybody. Well, that also we

47:05

are at Alex himself to the list, sure your

47:07

egg vacuum and people out why.

47:10

Do you do people look up to you if

47:13

you kill a lot of?

47:14

I think it's is why think it's a Machismo

47:16

thing being. menacing

47:19

scaring people as part of their masculinity

47:21

i mean feel like every person i've ever

47:23

met and known who has killed anybody

47:25

that has been like

47:27

Killing people is not something to ever

47:30

stable have you ever feel people are two

47:33

soldiers. were well guy programming

47:35

my grandfather's bow or a measure

47:37

that makes much more sense and ugly what

47:39

it might like every other couple days i was out

47:41

at bars every was like yeah

47:44

got medals and yet nara they're both

47:46

of them were very much like not something

47:48

to brag about think that you hear that typically

47:51

and interviews and stuff with people who

47:53

have been was actually done a sip of

47:55

see disservice the story begins

47:58

for him in south korea in this riot

48:00

in, he'll discuss that here little bit.

48:03

Well. I started as a mormon missionary

48:05

in South Korea of all things

48:08

are and got involved in Ryan

48:10

South for its time is very war torn countries,

48:12

some twenty five hundred. Students were killed

48:15

during that riots and I was required

48:17

use lethal force to defend myself my.

48:20

actions came to the attention of an interpol recruiter

48:22

and it was just convenient for

48:24

him to have somebody who had

48:26

korean language training and was

48:29

malleable to their propaganda

48:31

techniques as many fundamentalist

48:33

christians are

48:36

Why they use the brotherhood out of the see

48:38

that?

48:38

Create. "A lot of people, yeah, oh sure,

48:40

and of course fundamentalist Christian college

48:43

campuses are without doubt the primary

48:45

recruitment around for most intelligence agencies,

48:48

the reason being that if you have. Someone young

48:50

and naive who will equate service

48:52

to God with service the country

48:55

you can get them to do anything oh man the whole

48:57

thing about marrying fundamental a service to. God,

48:59

with the form of patriotism, yeah,

49:02

I get people to do just that a things can't

49:04

help but feel like that is heavy resonance with

49:06

Alex is present day to I. Can't think

49:08

anything about that seems like exactly

49:11

what he does, grice instead of getting people

49:13

to do things and serves other

49:15

countries, are I have them to buy pills, yeah, yeah?

49:17

It's a little bit different though I'm in

49:20

the mentalities pretty much the same yeah basically

49:22

describing yeah Alex is lead

49:24

religion with yeah as I

49:26

am get a. i'm feeling

49:28

like by if he

49:30

worked recruited

49:32

by Interpol. He. Would

49:35

have been recruited by the Secret Space Programs

49:37

that I'm getting like that, all of

49:39

the recruiters for a very, lot of camelot

49:41

as get lot of all. The recruiters for various

49:44

places where all at that particular

49:46

riots, they were kind of looking around and

49:48

he just got nabbed by Interpol, first

49:50

he was about to be super. Soldier and he doesn't even

49:52

know how much you missed all of these groups

49:54

like the zoo as he could space program

49:57

or interpol globalist Sir

49:59

at all.

50:00

More. There for, like, a convention,

50:02

yeah, and the riot itself was actually just

50:04

like recruitment thing right, they were

50:06

all watching with binocular absolutely

50:08

like if squid gay I ain't. Exactly

50:10

is good, gave a school games

50:13

until people became so didn't know that

50:15

makes sense, so Alex wants to ask about, like,

50:17

how many people

50:19

have you killed your talk. About

50:21

to be at the size of how do people you

50:23

killed?

50:25

We were then given a dossier on this

50:27

individual and assigned either as

50:29

team or singly to

50:31

tracker's individual and. Extract

50:34

as much information as possible from

50:36

them either through undercover work

50:39

or sometimes through torture,

50:41

and then ultimately eliminate them. How

50:43

many people to do tortured and killed

50:46

either?

50:47

If I may dodged that question, will

50:49

answer this", the head of Archangel

50:52

Commissioner's shocked affair with

50:54

Interpol told me that of the some two

50:56

hundred and sixty Archangel cleaners

50:59

or Assassins, most

51:01

of them are responsible for him to

51:03

three digits. The

51:06

a digits, the surf sure.

51:09

The minutes that are

51:11

you, but you look at the B. C. and Reuters,

51:13

I mean. The encore in the U. N.,

51:16

two hundred thousand people flown out

51:18

men, women and children are me. Burgers,

51:20

nurse and in the service is amazing.

51:23

It is amazing of huge

51:25

global proportions to the money

51:27

that is generated is into the billions

51:30

of dollars these killed hundreds

51:32

of big into the hundreds of people that's

51:34

the type of thing that where somebody like.

51:37

Then. This is so crazy they'll have to believe

51:39

it and eight there's no way anyone would

51:41

believe that I would lie about that,

51:43

many it's too obvious that

51:45

I'm lying I'm good. That's why they'll buy

51:47

I'm getting a strong sense that you've

51:50

tried to this earmarked, this is bullshit

51:52

I'm pretty close to say

51:54

definitively this is complete

51:57

bullshit. The be the in series

51:59

of you.

52:00

The about three days it's

52:02

all of the cleaners.

52:04

For. The airport, two hundred fifty

52:06

or so of them have I did,

52:09

it still remains it, as Apple

52:11

has a lot of people that's few thousand people are

52:13

good at assassination. Missions see

52:15

telling me that these people are important enough

52:17

to be assassinated, but not important

52:20

enough for anybody to notice that thousands

52:22

of them are going missing it all that all. The time not

52:25

probably covered by interpol ah that makes sense, see

52:27

you have.

52:29

You. Know just the basic gist of this

52:31

story is already given you massive

52:34

red, flags the South

52:36

Korean riot that leads to being

52:38

recruited by interpol right where he

52:41

ends up. Becoming part of a program called

52:43

Archangel where he's killed, into

52:45

the hundreds of global threat it just

52:47

it's little. fantastical i'm

52:50

getting close to what is going

52:53

to be my favorite part of the story which

52:55

is the part where they have to explain why

52:57

they're evil organization that is directed them

52:59

to murder thousands of people will absolutely

53:02

not harm them whatsoever after leaving

53:04

and revealing all of those secrets well i have a

53:06

ib i think it's obvious on that will come

53:08

up the all know yeah there's going to

53:10

have to be an explanation for and i'm looking for

53:12

there's already an explanation to the

53:14

is unspoken but found this and looking

53:16

into him into why interpol won't

53:19

say that you actually was an agent and as

53:21

it is of course they wouldn't why would they

53:23

why they never reveal that of what

53:25

our at no love in our time

53:27

no perfect yes so

53:29

i'm lucky that the one

53:32

of the big things that alex wants to really nail

53:34

down and terms this interview is that they're

53:36

ignoring the upper level people

53:39

like the globalist sure they get

53:41

a pass from interpol i mean

53:43

they're not saying rothschilds but that's

53:45

basically the vibe that i'm getting from him when

53:47

he says old money that's whatever

53:49

you're really might or might make that assumption

53:52

Not really runs this or what does it lead

53:54

back to it?

53:56

Well, ultimately it comes down to money

53:58

as almost all of these. This is rings

54:00

do the producers themselves

54:03

had to have customers how

54:05

when we were able to extract information

54:08

from the producers frequently they would

54:10

name. Then. More

54:12

powerful people were funding their activities

54:14

and for were purchasing much of the material as well

54:17

as purchasing the children themselves some,

54:19

of the names that we are given we. Would deliver

54:21

to our commissioner and never

54:24

hear again and they were names

54:26

of people that are infamous. in

54:29

the world for their The

54:31

other political out of their non a terry

54:33

or religious influence. Wow,

54:37

yeah, that's what job.

54:40

This incredible to see the snowing on

54:43

wow this is exactly what

54:45

I've. Made up stories about

54:47

for a long time and year.

54:49

Telling me that all of it's true this is overwhelming,

54:52

Alex are not doing the work to sell this,

54:54

but he's also not doing the work of the

54:56

sort of. No. Critical

55:00

analysis, of the of raisins can ride that era

55:02

doing the baseline of are you serious,

55:05

else is accepting all of that it really

55:07

feels like he's just trying. To get this guy

55:09

to finish his story and then get him

55:11

off the air like you just go and can't noise

55:13

is like, "Wow, you have my these

55:15

on for the?" Rest of the show get

55:18

the fuck out know why our

55:20

to, sit out this thrilled

55:22

by the how well it's because it

55:24

feeds into the narratives that alex already

55:26

has been placed on namely that they're going

55:28

around they're finding these people of other using

55:31

interpol as a way to cover

55:33

up rise rich and powerful people

55:35

by the hand that are then those rich

55:37

and powerful people are being blackmailed

55:40

or in order to do exactly what the globalist

55:42

want them to

55:43

We. "Rane, we're encouraged to infiltrate

55:46

the network, the just basically doing

55:48

a standard undercover work, we're developed complete

55:50

legend or cover story and

55:53

get as much information as possible

55:55

before we" Ultimately eliminated are targets,

55:58

sometimes using them to torture. If.

56:00

necessary THINGS:

56:02

we were doing this, we often would uncover

56:04

as many names within the networks

56:06

as it were not known to us just so low

56:09

level producers again all across. The world

56:11

and occasionally they would pop up there was

56:13

immediately recognizable or

56:15

upon further research we could see was highly

56:18

placed within our government's.

56:21

with religious organization or

56:23

some major global corporations you'll

56:25

have to go after those people not once

56:30

That's amazing, so away again it was an

56:32

Intelligence Bureau. For those

56:34

and the establishment or doing this to a pencil

56:37

like themselves.

56:38

Rams. We're just talking

56:41

around the warehouse where we trained

56:43

it Archangel, talking with some of our supervisors,

56:46

Cetera, we do know that they

56:48

were occasionally a couple times

56:51

when these individuals were. Black

56:53

males with the information that we had uncovered

56:55

to suit the current agenda

56:57

of Interpol.

56:58

The law works perfectly for Alex, right,

57:01

he likes mixed race great, I get

57:03

it now, come on. My.

57:05

Then you tell me that Interpol is in

57:07

the business of blackmailing world

57:09

leaders, sir.

57:11

Why why is Interpol doing

57:13

it?

57:15

More. Write a letter first

57:18

question: "Ultimately, at the end of the day, Interpol

57:20

does not like exercise lot of

57:22

power in the global struck to be no,

57:24

that's not the first" Question: balcony who might be your

57:26

first grasped, it's glass, it's not really even

57:28

relevant question for this interview, sir, that's fair

57:31

far more relevant on our stocks,

57:33

more brothers. Assassin ssssss

57:35

to kill those blocks not,

57:37

the of That's an average.

57:41

committing hundreds of a dumb assassinations

57:43

on average assassination, how would that player?

57:47

Well, each assassination team,

57:49

a team of cleaners usually was three or

57:51

four individuals, sometimes we are sent

57:53

out singly or in teams, as

57:55

the teams had their own

57:57

strengths and weaknesses of Mike. The

58:00

color forte was what's known as close

58:02

wet work that is close quarter

58:04

combat using hands or bladed weapons

58:08

have. been stabbed somebody and i am in the

58:10

neck around yes sir

58:13

the message special forces time so Yeah,

58:15

yeah, absolutely, and the methods

58:18

that we used were designed to

58:20

eliminate person quickly and quietly

58:23

are there were other methods used, of

58:25

course, and they were poisoning sense

58:27

now.

58:28

Dad ever, sabotage

58:30

vehicles or was that not sure enough?

58:33

of that is that we not sure enough he has this

58:35

guy's a master in i was proficiency

58:38

in the size smile

58:40

other people in my group had our differences

58:43

with solar know staff there

58:45

was a both staff of core and nunchucks

58:47

guy there was nudge he'll die but he

58:49

was little bit out there is party do lot

58:52

of five ability he was you know what

58:54

on those long road trips he would keep

58:56

us laugh at there are few the good guy

58:58

The guy said I had a murder

59:00

have this dance,

59:03

in his early, it's

59:05

humid place, your knives

59:08

get the fuck outta here you've got like

59:10

the dirty dozen fuck him as home gotta

59:12

you gotta go. home and is sharpshooter

59:14

was you gotta get nice guy oh

59:17

probably explosion or yeah

59:19

there's gotta be exposed way or another correct myself

59:21

houses are precise enough no car right

59:23

now there's grease man of course you can get

59:25

into narrows into and yeah of course i

59:27

get it as one of the things that think makes

59:30

his story see maybe more believable

59:32

for alex is this Next

59:35

clip, the talking about the sort of the. It's

59:38

not exciting to kill people, yeah, that

59:40

kind of thing is counter

59:42

to what you would expect somebody telling this story.

59:45

Then you say. I'm sorry it lends

59:48

a little bit more credibility since it's sort of off

59:50

expectations.

59:52

The dove throbbing for

59:54

of taking another person's life and of

59:56

using or torture techniques

59:58

to extract information. Then of course plays

1:00:01

heavily on one soul and is

1:00:03

very difficult to deal with yeah you.

1:00:06

and out how did i address it frequently

1:00:08

these individuals we would either catch them with

1:00:10

child for we would catch them

1:00:12

surrounded by video or

1:00:15

a photographic images of this individual

1:00:18

abusing children Seeing

1:00:20

those images was not too

1:00:22

difficult than to use

1:00:25

the method in. which i

1:00:27

was trained to extract information you're

1:00:29

literally dissenting a demon back to hell

1:00:31

else it's dull throbbing

1:00:33

horror most to an exciting

1:00:36

way for our and situation

1:00:38

now I

1:00:40

mean.

1:00:41

This would be a fucked up interview, no matter what really

1:00:44

high the I don't know.

1:00:46

Like where are you

1:00:48

at in your own brain?

1:00:51

That. You can hear somebody in such

1:00:53

a banal way just be like, "ike

1:00:55

executed hundred the

1:00:57

hotel and tortures with

1:00:59

no legal justification

1:01:02

beyond what it was, we saw

1:01:04

three of an" Archangel mandate exactly

1:01:06

ah my men killed by men I'm

1:01:08

listening this person, and I am analysis

1:01:11

place going who have

1:01:13

ah instead of you're

1:01:15

a fucking, terrifying psychopath and you

1:01:17

need. To be stopped at all, cause I should say

1:01:19

that Alex does have some misgivings about this

1:01:21

and, like emotionally, he totally understand

1:01:24

that agrees with killing officer and you have to. murder

1:01:26

people Abdullah he does think that

1:01:28

this sets kind of a bad precedent hand

1:01:31

eight. casts i appreciate him at least given

1:01:33

voice to that rise of the alex

1:01:35

has some as of just sort of are still

1:01:37

exists is this is to snuff but we gotta

1:01:39

say so

1:01:49

All right, I'm inspired by that wow

1:01:51

it's time to face the truth and be I think

1:01:53

you've already figured out some of the truth, emotive think

1:01:55

that David Race Ban and everything he said

1:01:57

on the show is a complete lie that sounds about right.

1:02:00

It. Do their them six Bannon, whose previous

1:02:02

name was David Daily, but he had actually

1:02:04

legally changed the name to ban it to sound cooler

1:02:06

he was arrested and gonna change good. Changeup The

1:02:09

was arrested in Colorado on number of charges

1:02:12

okay, is charged with criminal impersonation

1:02:14

battle do tudor crime and attempt to the

1:02:16

south and will get into. The details on

1:02:18

this, but the short version, is that he just made up

1:02:20

his entire story about working for Interpol

1:02:23

U.S. authorities were essentially fine with letting

1:02:25

it go, but it. Became huge problem when they

1:02:27

realized he was using these fake credentials

1:02:29

to quote solicit fees and excess

1:02:31

of three thousand dollars for two day training

1:02:34

course on human trafficking. ,

1:02:36

that point he was actively profiting off of his

1:02:38

criminal impersonation so I decided it was time

1:02:40

to step. in panama go on to

1:02:42

take a plea deal where he admitted to the criminal

1:02:44

person nation and the other computer crime

1:02:47

and theft charges were dropped You've.

1:02:49

Got five years probation and was ordered to

1:02:51

undergo mental health and substance abuse treatment

1:02:53

as well as performing one hundred hours of

1:02:55

community service, presumably not

1:02:57

as secret of. them some there's chance

1:02:59

that he actually could have done prison time for this, but

1:03:02

the prosecution specifically decided not to pursue

1:03:04

it's am affected he had to undergo

1:03:06

mental health. And substance abuse treatment for and leads

1:03:08

me to believe there is something relevant

1:03:10

to that made it, so like we

1:03:12

think that he's got parallel, I mean

1:03:14

it. Gets back to the point of saying something

1:03:17

like this, which is if you'd get

1:03:19

all of these things and you're saying it, you

1:03:21

are absolutely out of your fucking mind

1:03:24

and. If you didn't do all of these things

1:03:26

and you're saying it's you're absolutely

1:03:28

out of your fucking mind, the Adam say there's

1:03:30

something going wrong now, yes,

1:03:32

so the bottom line. Here is that this guy is a complete fraud

1:03:34

and the stories he's telling based on personal experience

1:03:37

that he that are all lies all

1:03:39

the stuff about our, he knew that. Interpol was ignoring

1:03:41

some reports, powerful people involved in child

1:03:43

trafficking or just something he made up the

1:03:45

stuff about torturing and killing child

1:03:48

pornographers, I was from his imagination.

1:03:50

The stuff about the riot and South Korea where he had

1:03:52

to kill a man and us got recruited into interpol

1:03:54

it's complete fiction the. charlotte

1:03:56

observer as really good article about this where

1:03:59

they rely on statement Interpol itself

1:04:01

as well as an interview with Bayonet's ex wife's

1:04:03

debate pretty clear how much of fraud he is

1:04:06

she. explains the during period of time he claims

1:04:08

he was out there killing human traffickers he was

1:04:10

actually quote teaching computer classes

1:04:12

at community college in raleigh

1:04:14

Oh. You're the North or North Carolina,

1:04:16

not North Korea, wow that sounds nice, yes,

1:04:19

by her assessment, Bannon was a habitual

1:04:21

liar and see quote doesn't think David

1:04:23

as well says he. Wanted to be hero

1:04:26

and wanted to be writer, so he created heroic

1:04:28

backstory in book which kind of solve

1:04:30

both problem, right? The way you

1:04:32

summed up as you sums it up.

1:04:34

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1:04:50

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1:04:53

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1:04:55

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1:05:06

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1:05:16

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1:05:19

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1:05:25

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1:05:27

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1:05:31

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1:05:33

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1:05:35

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1:05:37

one, one one, one one,

1:05:40

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1:05:43

one

1:06:00

Then. And at all right, they had somebody in

1:06:02

France go to investigate whether or not

1:06:04

a French secret service

1:06:06

member that he claimed to be engaged to but

1:06:08

died in the. Line of duty was real

1:06:11

person or not as well as I teach

1:06:13

he wasn't knows all made up is that even

1:06:15

contacted the Korean school he claims to have a.

1:06:17

PHD from and they have no records

1:06:19

of him getting a degree at all great,

1:06:21

it's amazing stuff, and it really helps

1:06:23

make sense of why these Charlotte Observer article

1:06:25

about him. Is titled "The Man Who lied

1:06:27

About Every That They Are", he'd say, "It's

1:06:29

Pretty Much Nailed It" I think of his

1:06:32

entire interview with Alex really highlights

1:06:34

to problems with his show that existed in

1:06:36

two thousand and three and he's done zero

1:06:38

work to remedy. The worst

1:06:40

is that he's the most gullible mark who's ever

1:06:43

hosted a show of the size, just

1:06:45

about anyone, could come in and tell him made up

1:06:47

stories about something he wants to believe and Alex

1:06:49

will buy it wholesale and pass it onto the

1:06:51

audience is true. People. Like this

1:06:53

guy or Steve botanically, the stuff that Alex

1:06:55

wants to hear and things that make is there is easier,

1:06:58

but the also create perception that geopolitically

1:07:01

significance, presumably his. Store or

1:07:03

heroic people are they think that

1:07:05

out of shows an important place to make an appearance

1:07:08

and that validating of out as narcissism

1:07:10

is just something he can't resist taking. Part in,

1:07:13

regardless of how clear liar he's having to vouch

1:07:15

for in order to get his fix. Then.

1:07:17

Second problem is actually bit more serious

1:07:20

and that's because of how irresponsibly Alex

1:07:22

handle this stuff he's actively

1:07:24

disrespecting the very issues he's pretending

1:07:26

to take seriously uncritically,

1:07:29

interviewing. This doctor race Bannon is

1:07:31

an affront to people who take the fight against human

1:07:33

trafficking seriously, instead

1:07:35

of dealing with issue soberly as it exists

1:07:37

in the real world alex retreats into his own

1:07:39

fantasies and in the process helps this

1:07:41

guy promote in profit off of creating fake

1:07:44

life stories the treat the exploitation

1:07:46

of children as an intriguing plot points

1:07:48

essentially it's proper to his story I

1:07:51

would you be really ashamed of his participation in

1:07:53

those but obviously Race Bannon should get

1:07:55

to the Lion's share of the flat here the.

1:07:57

notion that he created this entirely sake

1:08:00

The rear an interpol and was using it runs

1:08:02

seminars on human trafficking is terrifying.

1:08:05

It's unknown all the organizations that he

1:08:07

sold these seminars do, but when he was arrested,

1:08:09

a came about in the aftermath of one

1:08:11

of his speaking engagements on college campus

1:08:14

in Colorado.

1:08:15

After he took that gig the Colorado police caught

1:08:18

wind of him and contacted him see if he would

1:08:20

do a training session for the police

1:08:22

he quoted as price and that was plenty

1:08:24

to fill out the warrant the. point is

1:08:27

he was willing to lie to students about the reality

1:08:29

this very serious issue of human trafficking

1:08:31

say he was willing to lie to police and training

1:08:33

settings and he probably had in the past

1:08:36

yes this goes more than charlatan he

1:08:38

the person who made his living disrespecting

1:08:40

victims of human trafficking it's just amazing

1:08:42

the alex can't or will not see

1:08:45

through this very clear fantasy stories

1:08:47

of murders and spy novel

1:08:49

tropes does because it works to

1:08:51

help him demonize the people that he wants to demonize

1:08:53

it's circuit rise taking shortcut

1:08:56

because he doesn't want to do the work and thing

1:08:58

that i really want to but sharp focus

1:09:00

on

1:09:01

As much as like, obviously, this guy's

1:09:03

the real problem he he's appearance

1:09:05

and the way Alice's engaging with it. Really

1:09:08

does have a connective line

1:09:10

to the present day, get his show sucked

1:09:12

in similar ways back then and

1:09:15

he never learn. The never

1:09:18

you never fixed these holes in the boat.

1:09:20

Or whether it's just have no you learned,

1:09:22

but he learned that the holes in the boat or what keeps

1:09:24

him floating oddly enough, yeah, no,

1:09:27

no yeah that there may be true, the paradox

1:09:29

may be may be exactly be

1:09:31

accurate or maybe he realizes it's in his.

1:09:34

The best interest to think about and

1:09:36

so the whole that I got good all can breathe

1:09:38

underwater, what the fuck, yeah?

1:09:41

It's it's, uh, yeah,

1:09:43

mean if you don't get if you don't get consequences

1:09:46

for your actions beyond being rewarded

1:09:48

for truth and your not going to change your

1:09:50

behaviors.

1:09:52

It's it's the be you know I did.

1:09:54

all too often this is a little bit skinner

1:09:57

isn't with alex of just direct

1:09:59

you The reward him for this behavior

1:10:02

he continues to do.

1:10:03

You know it's. very simple and of he

1:10:06

does seem to have no

1:10:09

ability to experience negative

1:10:11

feedback death like There

1:10:13

is no constructive criticism and his

1:10:15

world really that ever seems to exist.

1:10:18

And. So there is no negative feedback,

1:10:20

get positive feedback or negative feedback,

1:10:23

is just proof positive that

1:10:25

you are on the right track and so negative reviews

1:10:27

my global has earned about. With the exactly

1:10:29

and positive feedback, well, that's just positive

1:10:31

feedback, baby, be up there like the is,

1:10:33

it makes for a devastating loop roof

1:10:35

brutal, so there's another thing

1:10:37

that the. Do they have conversation about? That

1:10:40

I could give a little troubling and.

1:10:42

that is that they seem to want

1:10:45

to buy they i mean alex embrace

1:10:47

ban and right they both seem to want

1:10:49

to invade thailand wow

1:10:51

the u s should invade thailand

1:10:53

because of human trafficking concerns

1:10:56

which i think is geopolitically weird You

1:10:58

talk about Thailand a military invasion

1:11:01

I'm all for?

1:11:02

In that period will unleash your and

1:11:04

ten minutes Bush to get the evidence, and will you wanted

1:11:06

me to go to Thailand, but there's literally the have

1:11:08

sanctions on Thailand? Searches

1:11:11

on and shouldn't.

1:11:12

Not. Even playing since it amazes

1:11:14

me that and of the things that

1:11:16

we seem to worry about and obsess over

1:11:18

and yet here are literally thousands

1:11:21

of innocent children and I've been.

1:11:23

In Thailand on a number of assignments and

1:11:25

we saw parents with children as young as

1:11:27

two years old walking up the brothels

1:11:29

to sell them into slavery this,

1:11:32

should not. Be allowed by any

1:11:34

signals parents should have their heads blown

1:11:37

off and the child should be, given

1:11:39

to adoption agency here I am hearing

1:11:41

that want don't. Want to on them and understand

1:11:43

used to do this I'm, not denying

1:11:46

that his child exploitation human trafficking

1:11:49

does exist. at all but

1:11:51

these do they are having a

1:11:53

fraudulent conversation here surrounding

1:11:56

sake lived experienced that

1:11:59

is guys The describing.

1:12:01

That being used to call for

1:12:03

geopolitical things like.

1:12:05

Invading Thailand starting a war,

1:12:08

I got out of the maybe intervention guys

1:12:10

really against war, mean. It

1:12:13

has played it, just. This

1:12:15

is down. mean.

1:12:17

Now. Here is a bear, wow, just

1:12:19

really going out there and say, in that where

1:12:22

people can hear it meant, should start war

1:12:24

wild to they decide they can take some. Calls

1:12:26

so I mean, just really some asshole

1:12:29

said that there's a lot of human trafficking going

1:12:31

on in Thailand, so you know what

1:12:33

less invade or at least or

1:12:35

surgeons, yeah? What I feel like Alex should

1:12:37

be for either footer with a pile

1:12:40

of has happened I don't know but.

1:12:42

we're going to call

1:12:43

We cannot ignore it, Doctor Rob David,

1:12:46

raise Bannon. The hd her guess

1:12:48

he was area. Assassin

1:12:51

or cleaner for interpol killing low level.

1:12:53

Individual's money that again data and

1:12:55

tell me how to handle using it a bit higher

1:12:58

levels for blackmail against government officials

1:13:00

as A.

1:13:01

Amazing stuff, lot of courage go public with is for

1:13:03

taking calls, got a lot of courage.

1:13:06

Then. Be a hero I,

1:13:08

feel like they don't, doesn't

1:13:11

even fucking too much

1:13:13

rate of am I crazy or to couple albums

1:13:16

have well return on the bright. Lights was

1:13:18

their best one who didn't get better after that

1:13:20

let's be real let's be, real by

1:13:22

dawn vital the Jews pretty good

1:13:25

don't know enough interpol are out of.

1:13:27

The to make this, your for society

1:13:29

are you went out all of this. is a risk

1:13:34

of yes i don't know

1:13:36

don't know the extent to which interpose

1:13:38

go read it with an assassination squads

1:13:40

the but leaving that aside it's embarrassing

1:13:43

the way that alex is now accepted

1:13:45

this story orderly and is reporting it

1:13:47

as opposed to being like i'm talking

1:13:49

to somebody who claims that he has

1:13:51

no that would maybe be responsible

1:13:54

way to interview this guy with a little

1:13:56

bit push back i am like

1:13:58

let him air the claims Make. It clear

1:14:00

that you, as the person the audience

1:14:02

trusts, have some misgivings

1:14:04

right of up the same lovesick Sabia

1:14:08

instead, ours is like this for him directly believe

1:14:10

we got A. Guy, I can't believe we got to discuss

1:14:12

how is this guy available, what a hero

1:14:14

of amazing are, so let's see what

1:14:16

it really just drug raid it into it.

1:14:19

Every. Time I look back in history, this

1:14:21

is an elite practices are not daughter, it

1:14:24

is very much so, and my

1:14:26

Ph.D. is in Asian history from

1:14:28

Seoul National University by the. Way and

1:14:31

why assure you that all throughout Asia

1:14:33

and history, as well as Western history,

1:14:35

the elites have pursue this

1:14:37

grotesque and dark fetish. There

1:14:40

you go, ladies and gentlemen.

1:14:42

New world order for you pure trash,

1:14:44

pure evil for.

1:14:46

Anything else will dollars all of

1:14:48

refer to thank you will a man

1:14:51

you. know what listeners you can tell me to have this guy

1:14:54

on what explains accurate unfortunately

1:14:57

And I mean not just it's.

1:14:59

horrible alice

1:15:01

We. Have to talk about it, let's a grim

1:15:03

added detail for me like the fact

1:15:06

that the audience had requested Alex Interview Ben

1:15:08

and means that he had every opportunity to do.

1:15:10

Some vetting before having him on or

1:15:12

preparing for the interview, and anyways we

1:15:14

wouldn't get duped by con man into making

1:15:16

mockery of child exploitation the

1:15:19

act of not. Preparing for this interview, our

1:15:21

to be very clear about this is choice.

1:15:23

Then I suspect is one that out routinely makes

1:15:26

because if he prepares, he wouldn't be

1:15:28

able to justify interviewing these really

1:15:30

ambitious liars who help them create profitable

1:15:32

narratives and validate his own inflated sense

1:15:34

of self. Your. "Guests wouldn't

1:15:36

do that for him and if he treated the car many

1:15:38

interviews like they deserve to be treated, they

1:15:41

wouldn't provide him with what he needs, his

1:15:43

comic an unspoken" Mutually beneficial

1:15:46

arrangement between Liars, we get a plausible

1:15:48

deniability, you get platform

1:15:50

to say we're both said, and then maybe you

1:15:52

get hired by another cop agency

1:15:54

to teach them. About and fucking human

1:15:57

traffic in way that will be completely

1:15:59

useless other.

1:16:00

As a training exercise said, maybe

1:16:02

let's be clear, counter productive,

1:16:04

I might actually mps their ability

1:16:07

to deal with this very, very real and

1:16:09

serious issues.

1:16:10

Fuck these people amazing so

1:16:12

anyway other talk about his book here Race.

1:16:15

against evil getting his name's race ban Then.

1:16:18

Doctor.

1:16:19

Bannon of I didn't bring about the studio

1:16:22

the day with me on that got last week who

1:16:24

publishes "You're both New Horizon",

1:16:26

press their an imprint of Penguin published. Wow,

1:16:29

so but big publisher was it and involves

1:16:32

in a we've. The

1:16:34

air be lot of folks who. have

1:16:36

published about supplemental just let you Write

1:16:39

book like this without checking it out, they

1:16:41

absolutely and the. He

1:16:44

didn't write any old was he wanted can and reading

1:16:46

about it unfortunately it looks.

1:16:49

like resume i wish Wasn't

1:16:53

the case I agreements, that's not

1:16:55

good?

1:16:56

I. am actually not entirely even sure

1:16:58

that new Horizon is an imprint of thing good books,

1:17:01

Penguin as a list on their website of

1:17:03

other imprints I knew her eyes and isn't. Included:

1:17:05

Which wasn't a good sign off the job, yeah,

1:17:07

and then in twenty one, they decided

1:17:09

to close up shop and in post announcing

1:17:12

that the end of operations. Of new horizons,

1:17:15

they discuss the history of the publishing company

1:17:17

and they don't mention Penguin at all, which is

1:17:19

another bad sign I don't believe it

1:17:21

actually was if you are. The Marina Penguin

1:17:23

publishing you would have mentioned that you're an imprint

1:17:25

of Penguin probably death or released like

1:17:27

thanks to Penguins are seeing a partner

1:17:30

through our really enough they'll.

1:17:32

believe that but alice's using that part

1:17:35

of his lie in order to establish

1:17:37

that they would have done fact checking so therefore

1:17:39

this guy store own and must be true absolutely

1:17:42

and i think that that's just the

1:17:44

super duplicitous what it's like they'll have

1:17:46

when think they were just let you make a movie

1:17:48

out of lie to you they wouldn't check

1:17:51

up on it they wouldn't be like what

1:17:53

is the couvertier why is this guy

1:17:55

there and they wouldn't say they wouldn't do any

1:17:57

of that it may be true damn has to be

1:17:59

passive

1:18:00

Then. We get so we get some interesting stories

1:18:03

here at this point, cause, I think

1:18:05

maybe, this, guy ban

1:18:08

and characters may be feeling a little

1:18:10

bit more like. Alex are saying all the surface to air

1:18:12

less, let it go, getting little get little high

1:18:14

on his own supply soon as next, with we hear about

1:18:17

how he. Acts of actually

1:18:19

spent some time in North Korean labor costs,

1:18:21

your get it, you just

1:18:23

the North Korea idea I myself

1:18:26

was imprisoned and a slave

1:18:28

labor camp in north. Korea when I was

1:18:30

captured a during an, interpol assignments

1:18:33

and my Ph.D. is in Asian

1:18:35

history from Seoul National University, so

1:18:37

I liked and know a lot about this. Country

1:18:40

I ', assure transit North

1:18:42

Korea has been working on weapons of mass

1:18:44

destruction programs, biological chemical

1:18:46

weapons for twenty years love ya

1:18:49

got articles eight years over they were. Testing Newtown

1:18:51

added opposite: "This whole thing of they can contact

1:18:53

them before they get news is a joke, oh,

1:18:55

it is it is it's huge joke

1:18:57

and everyone on the. Inside has no

1:18:59

this it may be that is now.

1:19:02

just more politically convenient up

1:19:04

his daughter managed you're telling abc Then

1:19:07

you got captured in the sorcery and Sam.

1:19:09

How did you get out what was that like as we just read the

1:19:11

Wall Street Journal article where they move

1:19:14

when the people starved to death, they hang

1:19:16

out their carcasses and sell the me?

1:19:18

That. Is correct answer:

1:19:20

There are many the horrendous torture

1:19:22

methods involved I, was only

1:19:25

there for, a little under week

1:19:27

until I was traded back

1:19:30

to South Korea in. What's known

1:19:32

as a spy swap that is there was known

1:19:35

mole in the South Korean Secret

1:19:38

Service is actually North Korean double

1:19:40

agent he has been captured

1:19:42

and was. Traded back for me just

1:19:44

I swap, yeah, they also got cash

1:19:46

considerations and a spy to be named

1:19:48

planes, I was totally

1:19:52

unprotected for the next twenty twenty. years

1:19:55

as soon as yeah

1:19:58

i think so you can get the sense

1:20:00

Do that one of the ways that this guy really

1:20:02

is able to get people like Alex

1:20:04

to go along with the stuff as he's are soft spoken,

1:20:07

he seems nice and then also

1:20:09

he clearly has some just. Like

1:20:12

ingrained or innate improv

1:20:15

skill, yeah, like he is able to say

1:20:17

yes to just about everything and then

1:20:19

move it over to something else like

1:20:21

out of talking about her, them serving dead

1:20:23

human meat and he's like yes.

1:20:26

It also there's a bunch of torture methods

1:20:28

are many shift away from having to be talk about

1:20:30

cannibalism: he doesn't need to talk about that cannibalism

1:20:33

out fire that's not part of Illinois are nowadays

1:20:35

Alex is part of it and then redirect.

1:20:38

How is it the you know so much, Alex, and

1:20:40

I'll tell you?

1:20:40

Also about what's going on in there,

1:20:43

it's a tactic that I think they

1:20:45

can see Steve do a little bit not as

1:20:47

much.

1:20:48

In later the he was more

1:20:50

than willing to be like no he directed

1:20:52

this he, he to to,

1:20:58

he about. about more

1:21:01

way about so

1:21:03

we learn this next clip about

1:21:06

his fiancee that he had he had this french

1:21:08

about secret service about

1:21:11

antiterrorism lady about

1:21:14

fiancee was in to french in no

1:21:16

that no this directed french

1:21:19

I was involved in a joint operation with

1:21:22

Interpol any counter terrorist

1:21:24

French D. S. T. agency

1:21:27

where, we approached spell

1:21:30

of north korean terrorists who were using

1:21:32

child pornography and buying and selling children's

1:21:35

fund their activities including bombing

1:21:37

of the paris embassy During

1:21:41

that confrontation, my.

1:21:44

fiancee shoulda Rimbaud who was

1:21:46

a A., and oscar with d

1:21:48

s t was killed protecting the lives

1:21:50

of others by a north korean terrorist

1:21:53

and that's what ultimately led to my

1:21:55

willingly embracing the

1:21:57

role that we played of eliminating these

1:22:01

And he, died your arms, yes

1:22:04

the seat, in Moscow in.

1:22:06

after she finally just a moment

1:22:09

just one or two minutes before see that

1:22:11

see of it How am I?

1:22:13

My. Just amazing and let it all

1:22:16

on the record folks, this incredible less sets

1:22:18

off a down in Illinois down your on the air and

1:22:20

I see I'm on the air. have,

1:22:22

some problems, with

1:22:24

is somehow huge problem got some

1:22:26

huge brought, what are you fucking talking

1:22:28

about the you the eight ball as a prejudice

1:22:31

terrorism unit? We're fighting against

1:22:34

North Korea terrorists in, France

1:22:37

and then, his fiance got

1:22:39

shot in I started going oh

1:22:41

my god I'm ah,

1:22:44

the, little months so

1:22:48

what. Other side

1:22:50

of Bile fight over to hide it even want to talk about

1:22:53

okay don't even need this in my life, I.

1:22:55

thought know what's happening of

1:23:00

i think eddie responsible person hundreds

1:23:02

of interview would have to be like what's the from

1:23:04

the talked out of here go away

1:23:06

sir That is absolute

1:23:08

bullshit out cause I received

1:23:11

from move as,

1:23:13

soon as you did you. at the

1:23:15

moment of her passing then lower

1:23:18

your head and dramatically raise it up

1:23:20

or did say no at

1:23:22

god himself as the rain poured

1:23:24

down upon your faces out is concerned

1:23:26

i was in the next chapter dog did observe

1:23:29

but think this is the to

1:23:31

the both seem to have an understanding of what's

1:23:33

going on in his interview in that is like were

1:23:36

Going to be able to use each other pretty well, right,

1:23:38

right so of Alex, much like

1:23:40

he did with or the interview and

1:23:42

them or conversations about Angela

1:23:44

Lips man named her with Kipnis,

1:23:47

he he, wants to

1:23:49

use this to attack cps Because

1:23:52

he rapes the child particular service

1:23:54

guard and so bad and as a willing participant,

1:23:56

yes, you are why now, so I would add

1:23:58

to this that job. That

1:24:02

on the wider scale.

1:24:05

Dealing with this corruption

1:24:08

that, most people in the government

1:24:10

are not involved in

1:24:12

this but that statistically

1:24:15

The number one group, when I read the newspaper not

1:24:17

have been insane, I'm right or wrong. That

1:24:20

it's the child counselor. It's

1:24:22

the CPS worker. Is

1:24:24

the truancy officer my bus

1:24:27

and lot of a mere an awesome? Don't

1:24:29

these predators try to get into positions of power

1:24:31

over children or the boy

1:24:34

scout leader? i mean isn't

1:24:36

that you gotta watch

1:24:38

"The very much so, and well", said Alex,

1:24:40

"It fits the profile"

1:24:43

Well said Alex everyone in

1:24:45

child protective services is indeed

1:24:48

running a front for human trafficking great.

1:24:50

work and truancy utterly

1:24:53

officers it doesn't get more

1:24:55

north koreans eric terrorists and true

1:24:57

public school teachers probably the mix so

1:24:59

why not why not today are there

1:25:01

around kids so you asked an interesting question

1:25:04

at the beginning of his and i was the idea

1:25:06

of how he's still alive yes of told

1:25:08

you get to that amber here's the

1:25:10

explanation there Where

1:25:13

do you ever produce a list of? People.

1:25:15

In cooperation, hi government or

1:25:17

are religious areas. My name

1:25:20

and we're United States where globally. Hello,

1:25:23

and no one thing like a list of. They

1:25:25

were involved that he was probably too, and he

1:25:27

couldn't go after. An

1:25:30

excellent question and one I've been asked repeatedly

1:25:33

if, I may say this in an entirely

1:25:35

selfish in this account,

1:25:39

but that is part of the

1:25:41

large amount of documentation that keep

1:25:43

secrets as an insurance policy

1:25:45

for myself and my. family was

1:25:49

gonna release that

1:25:51

Better release or to one hundred sources before

1:25:53

he announced it because if he was going to

1:25:55

release that they would kill him in

1:25:58

a minute. The say that. That's

1:26:00

what I said before if Iran we saved by

1:26:02

going public folks not by hiding

1:26:04

and sneaking around right so the Xo

1:26:06

liars like this guy lie like you can't

1:26:08

produce a list of names because that is insurance

1:26:11

policy to stay alive.

1:26:13

Both were not existing, yeah, does it does

1:26:15

it's using the absence of proof as

1:26:17

prove itself, which generally speaking

1:26:19

as the mark of someone he shouldn't take seriously,

1:26:22

however more interestingly the way Alex

1:26:24

engages here is fascinating. Than.

1:26:26

Anything that he isn't releasing these names because

1:26:29

it's as insurance policy to stay alive analysis

1:26:31

and he's gotta do that and if he wants

1:26:33

to release the info he needs to. Release at all and one

1:26:35

hundred places in advance but then Alex

1:26:37

remembers that is normal talking points

1:26:39

is the is not that didn't really

1:26:42

contradict themselves it.

1:26:44

consistently it's alex's position that

1:26:46

you're in danger only if you sit

1:26:48

on information and the only way to actually

1:26:50

be safe is the live wideout in the open

1:26:53

What? "Are we should be doing, he was serious, is

1:26:55

too easy to insist they ban and release all

1:26:57

the information that he has immediately does

1:26:59

to not do so", according to all.

1:27:01

The things Alex usually says, "That's a

1:27:03

threat to his life to not release

1:27:05

all of it and I suspect out doesn't

1:27:08

do this because on some level he knows ban is" Making

1:27:10

this up and there is no list, so it's best

1:27:12

not to press the issue, the only way

1:27:14

really through this interview is playing along,

1:27:16

even if you have to contradict. Long held positions

1:27:19

that you have, mean, think the simplest

1:27:21

thing on this one is too,

1:27:24

mean, let's take it at face value, is that

1:27:26

true?

1:27:26

It. Is it true that you are withholding

1:27:29

the names of the very

1:27:32

traffickers that you theoretically

1:27:34

are one hundred percent against to

1:27:36

protect just you what a hero you're

1:27:39

willing to kill? In the triple

1:27:41

digits, but if any possible

1:27:43

harm comes to you, oh, my God, yeah, I

1:27:45

gotta protect these billionaire's

1:27:47

millionaires who are financings the ongoing

1:27:50

human right up against that. Still happening

1:27:52

that I'm not doing anything about Rosa what you're

1:27:54

saying now is that you're willing to invalidate

1:27:56

everything you've ever done, meaning that every

1:27:59

murder of the.

1:28:00

It. Is one hundred percent worthless and

1:28:02

on you're black, you're talking source, and

1:28:04

then if you have fuck

1:28:06

you selfish desire for savvy

1:28:08

comes with the cost of presumably

1:28:11

the lives of? Countless hours older

1:28:13

and human trafficking individual, if you

1:28:15

guys want to play your masculine, I've

1:28:17

killed so many people", Bowl said, "If

1:28:20

you want to talk about courage, kills

1:28:22

zero" People and die to get that

1:28:24

information out, right?

1:28:25

Far. More hook yes, so I'm

1:28:28

out his antics you more calls me realize

1:28:30

is like a shit I was supposed to talk about World

1:28:32

War three hundred, and five

1:28:34

more minutes. Was on the other side's weekend when

1:28:36

Larry kind of shoveling out of hand that's it because

1:28:39

my daughter world war three stuff. just

1:28:42

a serious events actually possible but it

1:28:44

is and is the idea to all those are

1:28:46

area so serious note or three

1:28:48

is been right on the cusp him

1:28:50

for long time and the is right now to

1:28:52

gather join to be at the were on

1:28:54

world war for by now seven so

1:28:57

of it alex really seems

1:28:59

to perform for this whole thing and he wants

1:29:01

to know more about these are these killings

1:29:03

sure yes of course seem to be point of fascination

1:29:06

for alex

1:29:07

Experimental Emily, how you executed

1:29:09

them, I was with a nice.

1:29:11

Are primarily asad my expertise

1:29:14

was with bladed weapons

1:29:16

and close quarter combat. You.

1:29:18

Say you generally interrogated him before

1:29:20

killing of yes, often we

1:29:22

did either I do the work on bags

1:29:24

usually fight back in a disgruntled, it

1:29:29

depended on the individual. And I can say

1:29:31

that there are many occasions where thank

1:29:33

God was with the team because some of these

1:29:35

scumbags were very. tough we'd

1:29:38

like to think of them all being cowards but they

1:29:40

weren't father were growlers as

1:29:42

well how

1:29:45

My goodness already, my

1:29:47

goodness indeed say of his interview

1:29:50

comes to a close with whimper by add add,

1:29:53

"This whole thing was outrageous

1:29:55

that sell thoughts, yeah, itself

1:29:57

I was like. The very.

1:30:00

Breivik. Avoidance at this stretch in two thousand three,

1:30:02

the over listen to has been really boring and not

1:30:04

worth even discussing really, and

1:30:06

then get sucked in by

1:30:08

this. Story of a genius,

1:30:11

high schooler voice, and then it turns

1:30:13

into an episode where he started to

1:30:15

perhaps one of the most brazen

1:30:18

sociopath via ever appeared on

1:30:20

his show. Wild, sorry about my be an exaggeration,

1:30:22

yeah, yeahs up their sleeves way up there,

1:30:24

but the particular lies that this guy

1:30:27

is selling our that nature

1:30:29

of them, yeah. Are it's much

1:30:31

sicker than lot of the other people

1:30:34

are they come into Alex's orbit, air

1:30:36

the personal interaction with these stories,

1:30:38

what they are about?

1:30:40

It's just gross, yeah, I

1:30:42

mean, it's it is that kind of like.

1:30:45

feel like the Batman. Conundrum.

1:30:48

For for these dumdum, you

1:30:50

know, like you want to oh the superheros,

1:30:53

the guy who goes out killing human

1:30:55

traffic, boo boo, boo I've got knives,

1:30:58

I'm killing people and and.

1:31:00

Just like Batman goes and takes care of crime,

1:31:03

and then you're like, yeah, but you're not doing

1:31:05

fuck all but.

1:31:06

Masturbating. Basically you could

1:31:08

be doing shit, you could be helping people

1:31:11

if Batman spent a fuck and dollar

1:31:13

on helping human beings as they're building goddamn

1:31:16

bat both the maybe we. Beat different

1:31:18

situation and this order to go to hell with the

1:31:21

actual problem, so the symptoms old Rob

1:31:23

Lowe and this guy soon that same thing of like

1:31:25

unwilling to. Hold onto these names

1:31:27

because that's heroic is me living,

1:31:29

I'm vigilante, the totally

1:31:32

there is.

1:31:34

A taking on sort of the this at

1:31:36

lower levels things while intentionally

1:31:39

protecting powerful who.

1:31:42

you have just told the most heroic

1:31:45

story of yourself some ways when looked

1:31:47

at a in that light it's almost good

1:31:50

that this is fake no it's incredibly good

1:31:52

that this is fake otherwise they're talking to somebody

1:31:54

who is literally running interference

1:31:57

for All of the most powerful.

1:32:00

Well, in the world that they can continue child

1:32:02

exploit I'll bet yeah, so

1:32:04

we want less club here in is Alex are realizing

1:32:06

that he didn't get to most of the news now.

1:32:09

The just a bunch of other news is

1:32:11

equated new to. Then

1:32:13

you've got visit.

1:32:16

On wars dot. com the troops are

1:32:18

going to put on the streets of America. On

1:32:21

on the ground vehicles that

1:32:23

zap you and microwave you are since

1:32:25

you and. Police, of course,

1:32:27

of my getting I'm to, and of course only to use

1:32:29

them on you and. The

1:32:32

heart of freedom, ladies and gentlemen before I are

1:32:34

in this show. The

1:32:36

one hundred by home black mirror mold a few

1:32:38

people ever dies was vanguard of years.

1:32:41

Then. I want to ban guns a old man out

1:32:43

in California drove over, killed six people

1:32:45

were not sure yet yesterday as ban

1:32:48

also from driving and really mean that,

1:32:50

but. Isn't lot of the answered everything in this world now,

1:32:52

so I think listening back to these old episodes understand

1:32:55

how the strategy of never getting to the actual

1:32:57

stories? DeDeveloped Back.

1:32:59

then and in two thousand three and particular around

1:33:02

this time it was super important for alex

1:33:04

to get people who were listening to go to his

1:33:06

website because that was where they have a better chance

1:33:08

of getting integrated into the revenue stream Then.

1:33:11

Best way to get people to go to the website was

1:33:13

the hype up huge bombshell news

1:33:15

that never actually gets covered on the show

1:33:17

but is totally proven undocumented

1:33:19

on the. Website as where you gotta go to find I right

1:33:22

in that understanding, you can kind of see how

1:33:24

his show might evolve to essentially be a promotional

1:33:26

tool for the Web. Sites where Alex's

1:33:28

insinuations about the news stories

1:33:30

he would should really enjoyed be

1:33:32

really seen as sales tactic right people

1:33:35

to take action, browse the web sites

1:33:37

to go to. The website, the call to action not

1:33:39

getting to the news as call to action for Highlight

1:33:41

Ray or I understood in that light is

1:33:43

absolutely not in ours, is best. Interest

1:33:46

to discuss the stories on air because if

1:33:48

he did so, that would give the audience the

1:33:50

impression that they've covered the relevant topics

1:33:52

on there's no real need for them. To go to the site

1:33:54

to see that coverage repeat it and I.

1:33:57

have a suspicion that this was an intentional strategy

1:33:59

that also Can be nearly made it to Alex did

1:34:01

not do any work and that's just continued

1:34:03

to the present day that the training that he gave

1:34:05

them dry rot.

1:34:07

Also. As it relates to that last part equip

1:34:09

route of being all snarky about banning bears,

1:34:11

bears are banned, you can't own a bear

1:34:14

districts sets bad example,

1:34:16

yeah, he's actually. Making solid argument for

1:34:18

banning guns were happy, we banned

1:34:20

bears that because it's the danger,

1:34:23

not so let's ban guns because of the danger, but

1:34:25

actually as one. To one him as

1:34:27

one if you want guns to just be allowed

1:34:29

to live in the woods and bears to be allowed

1:34:32

to live with you you,

1:34:34

can have like that i'd like to sit

1:34:36

through this is over ever stream or whatever

1:34:38

oh everybody can have guns but they can't

1:34:40

interact with human society can't have them

1:34:43

in your home you're gonna free range guns

1:34:45

yeah something like that our own terms of old

1:34:47

people driving that's also really bad example

1:34:49

because we require licensing to drive

1:34:52

They. Get out, want to compare the relative dangers of old

1:34:54

people driving a god that's great, let's

1:34:56

just then treat them similarly and require

1:34:58

licenses and universal background checks for gun

1:35:00

ownership. Gets his arguments are

1:35:02

dumb, yeah, even these arguments that he

1:35:04

thinks he's making that are like slam dunks of

1:35:06

yeah stupid know, most of the time his

1:35:08

best arguments are the. One's he makes in

1:35:11

sarcastic sounding voice because

1:35:13

advanced his own exactly as if

1:35:15

you if you attack your actual defensive

1:35:18

rebuttal with or, oh, yeah,

1:35:20

sure let's ban Bear's

1:35:23

dog. Dog is the actual point he wants

1:35:25

to make is that everybody should have unlicensed

1:35:27

bear I see unregulated or is

1:35:29

Thomas Jefferson had a bear than everybody

1:35:31

should have a. Bear I, actually

1:35:34

about one does make sense pretty dumb minute they get

1:35:36

through this episode was one that was fun

1:35:38

I also terrifying and mean growth

1:35:40

the I. Totally rock guitar

1:35:42

in the knowledge fight cancer, upsetting

1:35:46

and terrified a groupie dress, yet

1:35:49

but I think there's so much. more interesting

1:35:52

stuff to dig into their then the lot

1:35:54

of the present day stuff is really nice

1:35:56

to have that are that the little break

1:35:59

even

1:36:00

Nice am afraid you into the past

1:36:02

ah it's gonna it's gonna kill us all that

1:36:04

little break Israel were all wearing it

1:36:06

now it's terrible arms cs

1:36:09

a sick Alex New to say Father

1:36:12

Nineteen. years overdue for he's got some

1:36:15

time this is the you configure it as

1:36:17

silk out the zara z it's also

1:36:19

a book on monday jordan with they probably

1:36:22

check back on the present who knows who know ah

1:36:24

but until then we have lives we do italicized

1:36:26

our concept where us on twitter we on twitter that

1:36:28

knowledge underscore fight not go to bed you're up

1:36:30

for the back button tell their them neo i'm

1:36:32

leo of these yeah it's clark i'm doctor barbels

1:36:35

and your comes with the sex robot andy

1:36:37

advances your on the you're controlling