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rather than onto, were double do drugs

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around wars, but the alters lean and talk a

1:04

little bit about Alex, do,

1:06

oh indeed, we are damned are now. Then.

1:09

Question for which my part of

1:11

my brave budget or is it something weird

1:13

but it's there is very satisfying and I'm gonna

1:16

have ever done it before wow,

1:18

what? A man loves a woman not very look at all

1:20

moment I'm so whenever

1:22

you use the microwave, obviously

1:26

you don't want to beeps to

1:28

happen when the timer runs out. Right now

1:30

they're annoying, yes they're

1:32

frustrated, yeah, and so you want to pull

1:34

the, door to

1:37

be likely one sec as bright yellow,

1:39

yeah, of course, but at almost. Every time

1:41

that I opened the door is they'll

1:43

be one second left on the timer and more

1:45

I'll miss it and they'll do the first be AH

1:47

today for the first. Time I've ever noticed

1:50

pulled the door it exactly the point

1:52

where there was, no beep and

1:54

the timer was done and. it felt

1:56

great us

1:58

i would love

2:00

The to shit on that of energy with, but

2:02

honestly, if I'm alone, and I just toss

2:04

a piece of paper into trashcan. Fuckin

2:07

go ape said Nathan around to.

2:09

yell media like boom shock lot

2:11

of the whole thing oh and or i admire

2:13

if close my eyes sell yell kobe that

2:15

good idea of it's those

2:18

boobs the real satisfying

2:20

tiny moment there I've

2:22

never I be able to replicate and say

2:25

is not the worse part of it now it's

2:27

ridiculous elsewhere in the when it happens

2:29

is those do wish we could just live in

2:31

a space where always open the my boys

2:33

around sides of the right time for.

2:35

they have ah i think might

2:37

bright spot is think i've decided

2:40

to switch back to context an ogre

2:42

my glasses are a

2:44

my visions so bad now that

2:46

at this point i'm like leaning into

2:48

reid said i'm doing the whole thing i gotta stop

2:51

with the glasses damn gotta stop i'm

2:53

gonna go i'm gonna go a contacts again

2:55

my friends are

2:57

Be. Okay, no outside of your me

2:59

to save two ago ago, although way

3:01

back not or air saves

3:03

l of like I'm nineteen again, I feel

3:05

like don't know agree. So get used to

3:08

it, but to be it'll be an adjustment

3:10

to be further, mean, like a victory

3:13

over the course of the pandemic you'd was the

3:15

head of A. Roof of that was also,

3:18

the first when we got used to it is this

3:20

you've known me I think I've looked different every

3:23

five to six bugs true but

3:25

I'm. A, changed my beard like a

3:27

bit as trillion others, and that drastically

3:30

altered my know appear inside history

3:32

of you that you had to deal with it, I are both. That

3:34

you know we both have done. so

3:36

live ah released it'll survive

3:39

or either although now i'm repaid they

3:41

get it's i've never done contacts

3:43

before and have contacts does

3:45

that have like do they help more

3:48

with isn't than glasses day No

3:50

of well the.

3:52

Though, until with my eyes, contacts

3:55

are very, very good for, like, seventy

3:57

five percent of the world, the you know far everything.

4:00

From? My full arm away,

4:02

I can see perfectly in all directions

4:04

in rare, and then there's this weird middle ground

4:06

between my arm and where can normally

4:09

see and that's that's. Where can see

4:11

with contacts, so you're saying when you wear contacts,

4:13

sneak up on you and absolutely

4:16

wrong on are closed on, it's like a t wreck,

4:18

Nope and I. Play the drums for my life,

4:20

so um, das, you know, they that it's all, therefore,

4:23

yeah, I'm essentially a helpless little

4:25

boy's as long as it really isn't

4:27

much to. Get real cause this lovely penetrates

4:29

the shield them as everybody knows Sir

4:32

Thomas, Jefferson he sits, well

4:35

with my glasses as you could see everything

4:37

has sizes this. area

4:40

is completely God sobs

4:42

his blood, most of the desert peripheries, yes,

4:44

yeah, I got no peripheral vision

4:46

focus of easier to sneak up on

4:48

you them as we it is. Now I'm trying to think

4:50

of go away which option allows

4:53

for the best sneeze on cops in the yeah

4:55

we've been playing too many video games probably live

4:57

with, as. Hell else is on

4:59

our, minds area with Jordan

5:02

today we haven't observed to go

5:04

over it will be a little bit shorter of

5:06

an episode Civic is fine considering there's. Been too

5:08

much of unknowing know how

5:11

to much content totally normal for people to

5:13

listen to us for several, hours, every. day

5:15

know the topic of

5:18

have so oh today

5:20

our to say him little breaky ah

5:23

he's gone or has

5:25

been mouth and so we have no

5:27

of new stuff to go over

5:29

i was thinking about like well what oh and doing

5:31

roads doing an impression of our to down so

5:34

boring Then. Movement to some Harrison

5:36

Smith stuff I wouldn't want to do that

5:38

either now, though should point out like just

5:40

recently had Stewart Roads back on

5:42

for an interview, really yes. The store

5:44

popped up on his show, but not on

5:47

the flagship I've not seen that

5:49

happen, sense the indictment

5:51

biggest Harrison still stone

5:54

gung ho for if was kind. Of a boring

5:56

interviews are amazing, like. My

5:58

free speech speak to.

6:00

Going away while her right

6:02

eye me that's a weird thing considering what was

6:04

it just yesterday somebody the?

6:06

one of the guys pled guilty to seditious conspiracy

6:09

not like not any less the

6:11

seduces conspiracy that's

6:14

tough bet is tough and there are indications

6:16

that is cooperating oh yeah i'm not good

6:19

Yeah. Yeah who, pleaded guilty

6:21

to tree the money and your cooperating

6:23

that Mississippi had a lot going on

6:26

for you yeah that that, that

6:28

means that the what is

6:30

what. You were looking everywhere well no chance

6:32

I'm making out with of Miss out of this trial,

6:35

and with her with an acquittal

6:37

see they still do public hangings

6:40

because. It sounds like that's what they're going for,

6:42

bad the zoo's of whopper of lover and, ago

6:44

operate, so we'll see little plays

6:46

out but tell ya that interview. Harrison did

6:48

or might not, look so great is

6:51

big that was before the dude like

6:53

guilty doesn't look good in retrospect. cinema

6:55

harrison smith story of

6:58

so i would decided to do

7:00

instead of going over some of that

7:02

stuff which is big of it's kind of like You

7:06

know? Then.

7:08

The dead horse banging your head against

7:10

the wall kind of death I was, had

7:12

a mixed metaphor in my and wasn't coming

7:14

out right there are, but I have only goes it

7:16

was pointless and. I've.

7:19

Almost go back to the past of do answer,

7:21

we're on back to two thousand and three continuing

7:24

that to exploration of what the fuck

7:26

with Alex do and back then of. And

7:28

today we're talking about July eighteenth two

7:30

thousand three or ah this observes

7:33

weird lot of my only quite

7:35

we are interesting and, don't

7:37

get down to it all. The the little details

7:39

before do the say hello to the new was

7:42

good idea, so first brent the silver

7:44

stallion, thank you so much, your now ballsy walk

7:46

on a policy. That fake spread of the bonus

7:49

do you mean? brand

7:52

Next Operation Horizon forbidden West, thank

7:54

you so much now for.

7:55

The policy was it had a video

7:57

to seek it out as very much next one.

8:00

Gibney, thank you so much you're in our policy one.

8:02

The policy walk thank you very much

8:04

I gave my. older brother is convinced

8:07

then as a whip thank you so much you are now boasts

8:09

you Then. Policy walk, thank you very

8:11

much next rough the philosopher

8:13

that you so much you are now policy want unopposed

8:16

walk thank you very much Ross ah

8:18

likes to throw a. J thank

8:20

you so much you are now bowl as you walk on a policy

8:23

wonk thank you very much might be true, our could

8:25

be drama nurture, yeah, I'm finally

8:27

worst. Lifecoach, ever thank you so much, you

8:29

are now bolduan unopposed walk

8:32

outs, so certain

8:34

the vivid the bottle episode, essentially

8:37

I go do that three a lot

8:39

of these have. Very little connection

8:41

to do anything, that's going

8:43

on certainly the present day or even around them presumably

8:45

our last episode from two thousand three hours

8:48

doctor that with kid who. Couldn't get her

8:50

diploma, could write, as wasn't old enough

8:52

to get equivalent of high school degree of yup

8:54

and now he dr. dr David Race Ban

8:57

and who pretended. To be from Interpol yeah, it's

8:59

of like give all that is that has

9:02

nothing to do with. the it's

9:04

always bud getting just slight bit

9:06

distance away

9:07

Being. Being with my memory that I have,

9:09

and then you tell me all of the things that know

9:12

they happen, it at the same types my brain is

9:14

like there's no. Way, those things, as only

9:16

he talked to somebody who named himself after a Jonny

9:18

Quest, cared less than I ended up an entire

9:20

history of being a savage fever is before.

9:22

I remember that remember that

9:24

happening, so a fictional character,

9:26

obviously.

9:28

Yeah, you're in the highlights of the

9:30

some email as that has gone on the show

9:32

in the past loose, and by this, yeah, I mean Alex's,

9:34

yeah, to pass on see

9:37

others that feel it's one of the only real connective

9:39

tissue pieces is scholars.

9:42

congratulating. Alex on his ann coulter

9:45

interview that seems to me wanna be only

9:47

things that actually goes through all

9:49

these episodes of makes me feel like, yeah, this

9:51

definitely did happened the. Day after the last

9:53

one, yeah, that's true I'm

9:56

weird, so here is and out of context drop zone

9:58

from today's episode. What

10:00

does we have a new affiliate in Rhode Island?

10:04

I want to thank God.

10:06

Mr. Blood their surplus,

10:09

Empire for Athletics, though

10:12

obviously, umpire years

10:15

ago empire Mr Blood with the Are You, kidding

10:17

me this

10:19

Alex Upper I don't get into business.

10:22

, mister blood of Christ

10:26

is from the northeast of I'm sorry that

10:28

when that when tricked me they got me. you got

10:30

me buddy so there

10:32

are two main barrier

10:35

of saw that are going throughout

10:37

this episode and one

10:39

of them were issues

10:42

Outrageously of as ok

10:44

it is.

10:45

Very much Alex,

10:47

taking a new story

10:49

and repurposing

10:52

it for his own use as

10:54

homophobic attack and

10:57

that we get that right off the Jump.

11:00

The bringing of cannibalism it's a real

11:02

big with culture of death ground. Rolling

11:05

Stone has afforded liberal publication

11:07

about how. The homosexuals quote

11:09

want to get job. The

11:13

culture of that.

11:14

Germany, it's or cannibalism, his bag,

11:17

they'll cut their arms and legs off and eat them at

11:19

large dinners. But now

11:21

they're volunteering to be killed and eaten

11:23

gobble them in a large death range

11:25

this is. Maybe see, I mean,

11:27

any type of the played at the of depravity

11:30

stuff that never even entered our minds.

11:33

These are going on out there an oncoming

11:35

a hate crime criticizing. The cannibalism

11:38

out by the way, according to Scotland Yard Diversity,

11:40

yeah. Hi, I'm not joking about

11:42

I. Will probably be arrested Sunday,

11:44

just for reporting of this is deviant behavior.

11:47

One of the top media presents result

11:49

of an angle we had him on the show last year was

11:51

arrested for using the word homosexuals

11:53

that of gay.

11:55

There was only article say gay getting

11:57

I was is the proper word. The homosexual.

12:00

There was such a while.

12:01

The Anglo Negro Your leisure scientific

12:03

term for thanks what's not offensive.

12:06

you can't use a son of time so the

12:08

pay is or big on

12:10

eating each other literally and

12:12

giving each other of syphilis an aids

12:15

i'm not saying all along better larger group

12:17

and it's very dangerous That

12:19

horrible and our criminal for

12:22

reporting, and, oh, boy, who is that

12:24

book with who's little shocking, that

12:26

is one of the more like?

12:29

Very. Clearly, a

12:32

child with no information,

12:34

letting his imagination run wild like it's,

12:36

ah, yes, gay people I don't understand

12:38

them and I'd around is incapable of animals. Stay

12:40

people are kind of a very huge other the

12:42

snow it means what you eat as dance other,

12:45

you, have some through this was before

12:48

it even more he. else

12:51

is always reddit threads that it's true I'm,

12:53

Zit this is situation

12:56

where there are like couple of data points

12:58

that Alex's like you're saying like. A child

13:00

disconnecting gem you said

13:02

it's like, it's ooh, ooh yeah, I don't know

13:05

what rolling stone article Alex is cited

13:07

by if it's supposed to back up any of that" nonsense

13:09

I'd really like a look at it unfortunately

13:11

Alex is, is no specific I

13:14

don't know what kind of adult scourges

13:17

literally just say the and with this such a. Blah

13:19

say, "Like in others, Zeus, what

13:21

is it with the with kids these days, they're

13:24

eating each other, you know, like he saying it like decided

13:26

human interest for you, it's" Very popular

13:29

among, the gay community that each,

13:32

other, and given scattered a speed

13:35

of the universe,

13:38

yeah, with this, this is gonna be something that keeps

13:40

coming. Up on this episode so

13:42

we'll deal with of little more, detail

13:44

later but ah this just homophobic

13:47

not and the guy

13:49

Alex's. talking about the been get arrested

13:51

for saying gay he was questioned

13:53

it eventually arrested related to some things that

13:55

he said at fair that were alleged

13:57

to have been inside and is dude gave

13:59

us Tory. asserted that he believed the country

14:02

people's that the same rights as members of

14:04

minority groups or at least that's the version of

14:06

the story as it appears and papers his

14:08

speech. Was recorded and, according to the BBC

14:10

quote, several people complained to the police

14:12

about his speech, "like kind of assume

14:14

that he said some other shit I know

14:17

he didn't end" Up getting charged or outages

14:19

created a fake version of the story, second launch

14:21

into that weird rant that he has Badawi refuses

14:23

to say "Gay is not scientific term",

14:26

May. Not ever as everybody's

14:28

known for long time, the Spanish

14:30

word for black is scientific term

14:32

used to describe human terms, yeah,

14:35

I'm at it's that I we've talked. About

14:37

it of a pass, his name's robyn some put our pick

14:39

any, but I remember his last name as, but we

14:42

talked to a we talked about this in detail. And past

14:44

observers wanted to refresh that's

14:46

the case we would forgot, so this is an

14:48

interesting point there that should be remembered, I think,

14:50

as illustrated by this clip, even as.

14:53

Far back as two thousand three Alex was

14:55

spreading completely insane and

14:57

bigoted narratives about are gay people like to be cannibals

14:59

and give Do the raids. So when someone suggests

15:02

that he always wasn't always such a

15:04

bigot. That's

15:05

just not borne out by the reality of all this

15:07

Node or else it's pretty peanuts,

15:10

you know, if what you when

15:12

can When

15:14

you can look at somebody's bigotry as

15:17

like somebody shoving it somehow

15:19

describing. You know, Alex wasn't as big as it back.

15:21

Then, as he now, and

15:23

you're only thing, you can hang your on

15:26

right now, I guess is like now

15:28

his bigotry is full out. Like maybe

15:30

we should just kill everybody. don't like but

15:32

back then it was like everybody. i don't like

15:34

is probably a cannibal which is

15:36

almost kind of like that is big and it's

15:42

true. It's true. there is a like

15:44

I'm psych meds turn you into Frankenstein

15:46

myers like there's quality

15:49

of, to

15:52

say is ah so

15:55

is it look I think. that i'd

15:58

i disagree without discovered

16:00

Here no one, seems

16:02

to be pretty insistent about the hunger. is

16:04

a big fat here in the u s other than report

16:07

of a nurse to go to mexico and hundred likes got off

16:09

the eat Run out

16:11

of love out of the among

16:13

them. Flash.

16:16

Well, yeah that was on yourself to

16:18

others your sacrifice, you

16:20

make so they can not have though the

16:22

much as, meal forget I'm

16:24

radical extreme on against. This

16:27

I'm also brogan by the way will be big

16:29

I'm liberal the, right black men

16:31

the summer you're upset some weird mood

16:34

tell me more about that. So I knew immediately

16:36

without his arm about here with the way he uses

16:38

reporting on this is just cartoonish,

16:40

yeah, there's a big fetish in the US to go

16:42

to my. Who knows that it is your legs cut off

16:45

the you can eat them, but then you run on lady's

16:47

you run out alive to see put out kill you?

16:49

In order for you, to be either so

16:51

this is based on just few stories

16:53

that have come out of people who want to have their healthy

16:55

limbs amputated sure. There's pretty

16:57

poorly understood phenomenon that's been labeled

17:00

body integrity, identity disorder, and

17:02

the frequency of cases is pretty low, but

17:04

it's very difficult to get precise number

17:06

on. Now, people who experiences threats,

17:09

it's definitely not always connected to

17:11

sexual feelings of those, sometimes

17:13

people do, I have a sexual relationship

17:16

with it's are aimed at people have these feelings.

17:18

They her wanting to get their limbs amputated so they

17:20

can eat them know that's not to typically

17:23

the presentation of this Alex is just writing

17:25

grotesque story about something that. He knows nothing

17:27

about incident that he knows that it's not

17:29

miss financial interest to know anything about

17:32

as he learns things when he can't do these

17:34

cannibals walk among us rants. To scare

17:36

the audience about big the gay people to be seen,

17:38

as less than human is big

17:40

fat is to go to Mexico her voice,

17:42

you know that. Are you know that all right?

17:44

that s o l chestnut

17:48

okay Right?

17:50

Though.

17:52

Tell look. okay you can

17:54

you can tell you can tell me like

17:57

oh there's this fetish going and getting

17:59

your legs chopped

18:00

In off so people can eat of he did right,

18:02

oh, you did tell me that.

18:03

"My problem really is

18:06

the follow up where he likes and

18:08

they say I'm crazy", a husband says, like.

18:11

You. Are girl that there's actually a,

18:14

I think the by the end of this episode

18:17

will lay out what believe that strategy

18:19

is gotcha because do think that. That's an intentional

18:21

strategy, him say they'll say that I'm extremes

18:24

you are criticized the shore's harsher of

18:26

so on our way to finding

18:28

this conclusion on guy we need to learn.

18:31

More about this, yeah, obviously there's

18:33

more cannibalism to be discussed,

18:35

quick question: Yeah, is there a demographic

18:38

breakdown we have eyes it more large

18:40

people with larger legs who are

18:42

jumping? Their legs off, eg, I like if I'm a skinny

18:45

person I'm gonna like practice you

18:47

nominee gained some weight before I go down

18:49

there, you might then got some and. Substantial

18:51

the really do on you know right but that might

18:53

actually not be how you get the best meet

18:56

full moon that's a good point my one lean,

18:58

I don't. don't know there's no discussion

19:01

of. this but it turns

19:03

out that the bury the case of

19:05

accountable okay two thousand and three are right

19:07

german cannibal charged with murder

19:10

The man, the I wanted to be eaten,

19:13

he was part of a four hundred and fifty great. Annabelle

19:15

Organization and I found some other south or

19:17

maybe multiple bodies in the house. The

19:20

about the culture of death and very

19:22

successful importation. Unesco

19:25

the culture of down. Those

19:28

rolling stone reported these people wanna

19:30

die, they won age, though that this is rolling

19:32

stone by the way. The large search them, say

19:34

now about that. Part of San

19:36

Francisco men who were poll want a to

19:39

die and was, few,

19:41

satan is coming and do it puts baby

19:43

see The

19:46

about the humanization side as clown, mammoth.

19:49

That'so so that's coming out of

19:51

your lackadaisical throw to a mammoth

19:53

flown and worry now turns out third

19:56

of all men in San Francisco wanna get

19:58

aids and die and against me. Sir.

20:00

Around next on New I

20:02

didn't track that now that don't

20:04

know what he's talking about my own, what is rolling stone

20:07

article is right or but in terms of A? Cannibal,

20:09

this is about arm and views who was a German

20:11

dude who ate guy who had volunteered to

20:13

do it after meeting Arm and on message board

20:15

called The. Cannibal Cafe, yeah.

20:17

There. May have been like four hundred fifty people

20:20

on that message board like Alex think it's a group

20:22

of four hundred fifty right ah, but

20:24

I'm gonna guess that vast majority. Of them

20:26

were just people at of or ophelia king, which

20:28

is the erotic desire to eat some on or be

20:30

eaten like the cannibal cop from

20:32

my years ago, well was.

20:35

Not not quite, but yeah, I

20:37

would say that almost everyone on that message board as

20:39

on their to role play something that was part of the fantasies,

20:42

but not. Something they actually wanted to do,

20:44

what is probably a big part of why

20:46

are men had multiple people agree

20:48

to let him eat them, but then they ultimately

20:50

backed out, oh? I would guess the

20:52

that was because they realized he was serious

20:54

about eating them, which was a deal breaker I

20:56

didn't want to get know they wanted

20:58

a jerk off to. The thought not

21:00

actually get eaten probably death,

21:03

initially, this was mess from

21:05

court perspective because, as the BBC put

21:07

quote, "cannibalism is not recognize

21:09

the fence under" German law and the defense

21:11

will argue that sense the victim volunteered

21:13

this was no murder that's,

21:16

true successor that's bad

21:18

day in court for everyone involved wow

21:20

know it's. A happy food senate we forgot

21:23

to make this illegal the weight of cannibalism. we

21:26

can't go wrong so in his

21:28

first trial he was convicted of manslaughter

21:30

but he was retried in two thousand and five

21:32

where the argument that the word he was

21:34

killing for sexual gratification disproven

21:36

by the fact that he had videotaped a crime lead

21:38

to murder conviction right yeah that one worked

21:41

it probably didn't help that he had also posted

21:43

on that message board looking for another person

21:45

to eat which really may became pretty strong

21:47

that he was likely to reoffend now years serial

21:50

years yeah know your cereal cannibal

21:52

killer yeah had trouble anyway this

21:54

is an exceedingly uncommon crime

21:56

for someone to commit as evidenced by

21:58

the fact that this shit Iowa. World

22:01

knows exactly, the same

22:03

place where they cut off the penis is

22:05

made up guys I have,

22:08

ah yes out resumes very sensational

22:10

and had a headline grabbing cases. Way to

22:12

demeans the gay community and

22:14

this is an important place or peace to recognize,

22:17

and two thousand three trans people weren't

22:19

the primary target of the extreme right and

22:21

terms. The desire to kick up fake moral

22:24

panics this isn't say that homophobia

22:26

doesn't exist anymore and are present day, but

22:28

it's not is central to the right wing strategy

22:30

anymore because. It doesn't create the same response

22:33

in their audience: people are cooler with gay

22:35

people now, so they gotta get more extreme, but

22:37

they have to dancing voters are her's

22:39

owner whole. Group exactly and though

22:42

the homosexual. community is

22:44

not as vulnerable as they were

22:46

to their attacks gap or as they

22:48

were in two thousand and three you got it sir alex

22:51

pretends to be above all the stuff that the more

22:53

mainstream right wing pundits get into

22:55

but No different than any of them

22:57

is just more extreme version

22:59

is willing to make more stuff up to keep his audience

23:01

interested, but he plays the exact same game.

23:04

That the that his contemporaries

23:06

like rush or am in.

23:08

The do, yeah, and it's it's, so

23:11

it's so emblematic of who they

23:13

are his people. Like deep down.

23:15

That with a moments minority.

23:19

group become strong enough And

23:21

receives enough support.

23:23

Stop! Attacking it on whatever ideological

23:25

quote unquote grounds or moral ground add

23:27

before and the go to somebody weaker

23:30

felt weak hundred am always am

23:32

always weaker am and so some

23:34

group. That has less societal

23:37

support ah of more vulnerability,

23:40

mm to think that's particularly distasteful

23:42

about it is the van they'll

23:44

pretend that like.

23:46

I never really had a problem but I never had a

23:48

problem with gay people no matter what they do

23:50

inside their bedrooms I'm fine with whatever

23:52

you do it all now I will tell you they like

23:54

to a play do like see the people

23:57

like. says it's just

23:59

such I like how do,

24:01

how does everybody not look at them and go, oh,

24:04

they're just a bunch of cowardly bullies and

24:06

we get trapped by them because they're so fucking

24:08

loud all the time, you know, it's

24:10

brutal, yeah? Yeah.

24:13

I. Am I think that one of the values

24:15

of going back and looking at these past episodes

24:18

is that the cultural milieu

24:20

of the right wing and their

24:22

of the sort? Of culture war narrative

24:25

rife are so similar,

24:28

leads to strategize

24:30

easy but they're focuses are different

24:32

and you can see so clearly how

24:34

that works by comparing pass out. Or

24:36

hasn't know and they just keep going down the list

24:38

of letters and lgbtq know

24:41

just like oh, well, today we're going to pick on G

24:43

tomorrow we're gonna pick on. T and it's just a monster

24:46

it's is monstrous tough sell our

24:48

Alex Ghost calls he takes lot cause of this

24:50

episode good he burned itself out

24:52

or guests with doctor. A span and I believe

24:54

you're not gonna get much better than that you can't

24:56

system is a hero. and

24:59

so are this color has great

25:01

question for alex and this you could tell our

25:04

to the little bit pissed off my this

25:06

Mr O'Brien of New York polling

25:08

interview: Two guys have a fall louder.

25:11

Yes. Yes, I have a phone call or

25:13

not know I'm another call me by

25:16

Brian of lot of the color, sir,

25:18

some on I would have a fall outs of the. The

25:20

Mahdi, oh okay, my show isn't

25:22

about fall outs with callers are not

25:24

mad at you but it is not your other now I know

25:26

cause like,

25:29

ceiling for yourself. ,

25:32

name's on, vacation really

25:35

pressure sensors I, can surmise I

25:39

love this issue could have those moments

25:41

are bad that's what we as

25:43

fuck all those see it. And is this guy's

25:45

about survive document or give me a compilation

25:48

of other callers be much is Brian

25:50

from New York, okay, we haven't heard from him

25:52

in while? Get do for you guys zune okay

25:54

oh I love of the moment of our said responding

25:57

yeah me in the cellar going to have a. snub would have

25:59

thought The about what. What,

26:01

what what? We. Got it, would it, why

26:04

would we get do what's that kind of like, yeah,

26:06

that's what happened like that

26:08

kind of the rhetorical a scoop

26:11

of spitting doesn't exist for? Our know

26:13

there's no good set sarcastic shit

26:15

bag comebacks, no them to

26:17

the something refreshing about the S, so

26:19

others are also color with conversation

26:21

about the A. Nuclear attack.

26:24

Where maybe a false flag nuclear attack that's coming

26:27

and Alex has some interesting advice about

26:30

when should get your guard up and they.

26:32

want pearl harbor where we get nuclear barney

26:36

Police say them come out of that.

26:39

Whereabouts the may be. too

26:41

risky for them though Rerely

26:43

on missiles, intercontinental ballistic

26:45

missiles, or will advance the girls like you

26:47

sort of that North Korea, yeah? The

26:50

former defense.

26:51

The terrorism we will be no was

26:53

deposed by North Korea when they

26:56

probably one of the globalist to detonate

26:58

one sided.

26:59

They probably already got the Warheads player

27:02

in this country.

27:04

Sure, totally ruthless, and they want around

27:06

are society they're putting the control grid in

27:09

all around us right now.

27:10

Well, they wouldn't take chance or lose in or own people

27:12

they have to have planted well, that's why you got

27:15

watch out when or exactly

27:17

you got to watch out when the globalists or all out

27:19

of town or at one meeting place

27:21

or not in Washington.

27:23

This look out look out whenever

27:25

the globalists are out of town that's when the nuke

27:27

is gonna cover of an yeah.

27:31

You have you ever do that? Show. That, like V.

27:33

F. W., is no or something along those

27:35

lines never done, and Elk's lodge

27:37

or anything like that, a be better movements the

27:39

long time since those, yeah, that. As are so, I

27:41

just hope don't remember all of the gig they

27:43

did the I've been a

27:45

to more than my fair share feel

27:47

gift on Karaoke of. VFW host

27:50

more even more than the another, yeah, I've

27:52

done plenty of, and there is that like

27:55

it's all going fine before the show you

27:57

do the show and if. Everybody likes youth,

27:59

you get asked.

28:00

During? Conversations that sound absurdly

28:02

like this one all the time of

28:04

just like, "Wow, you know, obviously

28:06

they the evil Bogeyman wouldn't do

28:08

this, they would hide the nukes inside your bedroom"

28:10

"For I like Sir Man, find whatever that

28:12

makes sense and then when they go out to the

28:14

grocery store that don't remember,

28:16

yeah, the Ira appreciate

28:18

your scare quotes the. ah.

28:21

yes this is a false like the didn't happen

28:23

or another bad prediction on ounces bar

28:26

Both bit and I do like that there's a

28:29

distinct difference here between

28:31

the way Alex talks about with the other globalist

28:33

evil plan I compared to

28:35

the present day and that is in the present day

28:37

like they are going to kill all of their owner's

28:40

money.

28:40

Everybody you have to worry about the will be

28:42

going out of town anymore the

28:44

world this guy in the present by

28:47

sets not gonna help you know determine

28:49

whether or not there's an attack so.

28:52

we got another bad predicts on our part

28:54

here That's I support the troops

28:56

you are.

28:57

This. Year's of us don't,

28:59

worry we'll have a new crowd of young

29:01

people throughout the national drafts,

29:05

coming into the summer home, baby is

29:07

as lots of. Death to go around

29:09

anymore, cause we get back, so we

29:11

have to predictions here just

29:13

from the beginning of, this episode that

29:17

are not good one another national

29:19

drastically yep. Did not. happen nope to

29:21

do clear attack from north korea or

29:24

possibly false flag made to look like north

29:26

korea i wouldn't put out put someone

29:28

put it past the globalist didn't get prep

29:30

as they know just as

29:32

a reminder of the now

29:34

he's litany of things that alex is

29:36

wrong about predicting you is problem

29:39

was you had just gone out of town when the north

29:41

koreans nuked us oh like you

29:43

are you are out of chicago we got nuked

29:45

how shit and then i didn't hear about an

29:47

hour we put it back together pretty quick meeting

29:49

with the north koreans to get the win israel

29:52

is a breath of plenty bluest us some

29:54

unity solidarity come on to get rebuild

29:56

and time they are we gotta get this together before

29:58

stabbed They are know

30:00

that as you get to put it all out on the streets, oh,

30:02

no, your gossip dad, that's what everybody

30:05

said so of.

30:07

weird from the out of context drop that Mr

30:09

Blood I is now syndicates

30:11

Alex list of yeah,

30:14

it's easy,. to

30:16

alex gets a call from somebody

30:18

who's of i say don't think

30:20

this is Maybe from the

30:22

same station or another station and

30:25

Rhode Island I'm not sure Alex may have to

30:27

do. Mr Blood No

30:29

to Station's own: I've actually

30:31

think I know what is the issue is here,

30:34

think know what the deal is

30:36

he does mention that there's like two stations

30:38

in Rhode Island on Got of so

30:40

this person is calling from one of them. Shelley

30:44

Romney, yeah, go ahead. John

30:46

Kerry, you. You are going to talk to you.

30:48

Good to talk to you a my name's Michelle Freeman

30:51

and my husband's Ben Freeman and he's

30:53

on you R. A.

30:55

Out of it, you know those the call letters

30:58

and tell us about the station.

30:59

It's w a R & power thirteen

31:01

twenty and it's reality radio.

31:04

Where, yeah, oh, what a good name? And

31:06

the Carlisle too much providence an

31:09

hour of the Alberto Massachusetts. There

31:11

weren't any right to. Based

31:14

in providence and

31:16

third, they're upping their wattage for that they

31:18

have. You know they can

31:20

reach more listener.

31:22

Look. This is Lady Giving her first

31:24

and last name is, the beginning

31:26

of something that ends up paying off later he

31:28

has another caller the next caller gives

31:30

his first the. My name analogy with people got to stop

31:33

do, about

31:35

that it uses, the first or last

31:37

name for somebody could, be gone elsewhere

31:41

gotta. cut it out so

31:44

it should come as no surprise here don't

31:46

know that this radio station doesn't exist

31:48

in the same format that it didn't two thousand and three

31:50

it's that whole reality radio thing that

31:52

out of so excited but it was a great name oh

31:54

it was bust all so thirteen

31:57

twenty am in that area of

31:59

the north There's actually based out of Attleboro,

32:01

Massachusetts, and has been operational since

32:04

nineteen fifty going through many changes

32:07

in their theme from Enzyme, previous

32:09

to rebranding as Reality Radio, it had been

32:11

following an easy listening format. Their.

32:14

Was another am station in providence

32:16

around that time w a l e nine

32:19

ninety that was a lot

32:21

conspiracy talk think that's the

32:23

other station that Alex is talking. About

32:25

being on a, they went bankrupt

32:27

into thirteen three, which point lot

32:29

of their programming was shifted over to thirteen

32:31

twenty and they sold their name to Wally A.

32:34

Yes. However.

32:35

Though. It should be noted that a non insignificant

32:38

part of the station going bankrupt had to do

32:40

with them areas of really fucked up shows like

32:43

American dissident voices and or

32:45

the. By the National Alliance Wild

32:50

Type, happy not the our I'd Rhode

32:53

Island yeah so that

32:55

isn't went bankrupt thirty twenty

32:57

switch formats over to an all conspiracy

32:59

line up. Ham took some of their programming

33:01

on Ah and it was not here

33:04

goes by two thousand for they switched

33:06

again and we're now he sports talk right they.

33:09

They were running lake oh no regard

33:11

for a, long where

33:16

the matter old Nazis and the women are nazis

33:18

and the children are really fucking, Nazis

33:21

man I. Was I was think

33:23

Garrison Keeler the mass, enough yeah

33:25

and watched

33:28

of didn't realize they had videos

33:31

of like live, performances own

33:33

cells yeah and. oh

33:35

my god who us number

33:38

one ah I. forgot the

33:40

news from Lake wobegon was

33:42

such a long segment, yeah,

33:45

I didn't realize that some of the were like twenty

33:47

minutes last for ever thought

33:49

it was just like. A little a thing

33:52

when you remember the show in your

33:54

head, it is encapsulated

33:56

by, like, five sentences every show,

33:58

and then, if you actually go back and.

34:00

And. You're you're like this is interminable

34:02

this never and I thought of

34:05

my memory of Garrison Keeler shows,

34:07

the so deliver at shows my

34:10

one of segments. Is news from like was because

34:12

ever fake commercial this down

34:15

the at and it was so

34:17

looking, got so bored

34:19

but also watching Garrison Keeler

34:21

deliver this at was? Something

34:24

that, like ever like don't know, maybe was

34:26

just because grew up and this, like NPR

34:28

kind family that was this NPR

34:30

is like one of the grew one. That is,

34:32

and the like the

34:34

of. my talk you're it

34:37

like the maybe was like deliver

34:39

like this like looking down at the ground

34:41

and

34:42

Kicking! Nonexistent rock some days,

34:45

if he told to startle, oh yeah, it was

34:47

awful, he has gotta face for radio

34:49

my for at it, but does this you see the

34:51

that it? Was a the movie know oh,

34:53

man, I think I'm for may be misremembering

34:56

this entirely, but I'm fairly certain Lindsay Lohan

34:59

within their oh ya wanna

35:01

say? Well, gas, yeah, is

35:03

a.

35:05

The topic that I was, was shocked

35:07

watching it how.

35:10

Then. Just on in a compelling

35:12

of performance that was death and it

35:15

made me reconsider lot of things that my

35:17

parents not were entertaining what the,

35:20

L. L debt of, just

35:23

make sure I never have do watch

35:26

a video of the live taping of what do you,

35:28

know yeah,

35:30

please don't that would be trouble. We do not

35:32

recommend it although I, have found

35:35

old recordings of.

35:37

celtic connections and hearts

35:40

of space never heard of hearts of space

35:42

what types of space parts of space was

35:45

show that would play on like

35:47

i'm i think it was saturday

35:49

or sunday nights on npr and

35:52

was space music so he was like

35:54

it like we soundscapes okay

35:57

but then there would be like the narrator of

35:59

it ah The would be like.

36:01

Hard to space traveler, it's.

36:08

Welcome to woke Up fellow space has

36:10

though it's eight straight up like out a quiet storm

36:12

like though they've Tim

36:15

Meadows as et al character thing

36:17

I don't know that sketch you're talking about but

36:20

perhaps each. each episode

36:22

as i recall would have like

36:23

Then. The that we're just these abstract

36:26

themes like today he today we're

36:28

dealing with envy could,

36:32

be like to see, whether this

36:34

was this work with swear Carry first

36:36

album. Was drawn to a third of it could have been,

36:39

I don't know, still really enjoy

36:41

hearts as base birth of as a lot of fun

36:44

anyway by the could go. Back and revisit

36:46

that a, way to

36:48

yeah Alex is on the station and, wrote on him

36:51

and he went off the air within year okay

36:53

our went to. Sports talk former that's

36:56

not bad so outskirts another caller

36:58

I, have this guy is

37:00

have you noticed nice, pretty clearly sovereign

37:03

citizen salah egg or to I myself.

37:05

Like you fought against the. government as

37:07

far as the identity issues

37:10

Partygoers was and for into having one.

37:13

Every myself during armory, both my

37:15

so scary have a driver's license did all that

37:17

nine and have spent two and half years in county

37:19

jail. They said in quoted

37:21

their to punish me extra ordinary. Ordinarily

37:24

because I'm constitutional. Sure

37:27

that open court I had, and the young

37:29

argued in Denver last year, Denver Post.

37:32

The competition is not admissible.

37:34

And since, his arrest, they

37:37

didn't sign oval em will actually

37:40

I get to this Denver case accidentally

37:43

die in a little bit. oh but

37:45

the yet i think you can do

37:47

a lot of hiding far by call yourself constitutional

37:50

isn't that of sovereign citizen weird

37:53

out as guys doing, I would love

37:55

to get my hands on whatever

37:57

he went to jail for figure that fisher

37:59

it's not.

38:00

You. Saying now it's probably just as he loves the constitution,

38:02

probably not probably it's something to do with the constitution

38:05

and his love of a yeah, he was I who that

38:07

the. Librarian, he tried to check out a copy

38:09

of the constitution and sixteen secret

38:11

police members just descended upon

38:13

him and the had to throw him in jail, or

38:15

yeah, except so. A bit the same

38:17

color as some other ideas I did, he is

38:20

a kind of, you know, the given the tone from

38:22

Alex or users bounce in bag

38:24

atom.

38:25

Burn your, I was looking at Bush and

38:27

now. The protests

38:30

during when walking away with my two

38:32

gay guy's plants and in the woods them in,

38:34

would stop at that.

38:36

La Carretera love with each other night,

38:38

Arm's length of each other should be down

38:40

in West Hollywood work and. The

38:43

way that I'm sorry for the chart news here,

38:45

so I thought I'd say

38:47

he's please, we're also family orleans

38:49

here. They will show. You

38:52

know? It is. Sad

38:56

day me. Every time.

38:59

I hear a conservative last

39:01

just because I'm guy went those

39:04

two men standing close to each other what

39:06

if they were banging right ha oh

39:09

my God that's the funniest thing I've

39:12

ever considered yeah yep well done it.

39:14

overtook it's and expressionism

39:16

homophobia that it is also at

39:19

the same time does not good joke

39:21

now it's just bad joke yeah that's kind

39:23

of on clever and hacky even

39:25

know if it works totally It

39:29

it's just.

39:30

Fast Yeah Stop It So

39:33

Have I told you there were two narratives are sort

39:35

of running through the episode the first is

39:37

gay people like to eat humans.

39:40

they do have an that that's

39:42

not a bad thing The

39:44

Galaxy's reporting it as about gas or at

39:46

so the second story is about David

39:48

Kelly, who was matter of the

39:50

that the TV pretty wrecked for error

39:52

or the as he was,

39:55

weapons inspector and

39:57

that as doctor who.

40:00

Committed suicide in I am

40:02

died the day before this episode,

40:04

think am and the, but the

40:06

backstory of it has to do. Where

40:10

he had been quoted in an article

40:13

in the BBC ah that had to

40:15

do with. A claim that

40:17

was in a British government.

40:20

dossier about the iraq war in their potential

40:22

for weapons of mass destruction and guy that had to

40:24

do with there's line in about

40:27

their beings are the The

40:29

weapons could be deployed within forty five

40:31

minutes okay this line itself,

40:33

Ah as alleged by

40:36

David Kelly was something that

40:38

the Downing Street AH spokesperson

40:41

insisted be put in the report

40:44

got I'm and said there was big.

40:47

Brouhaha. About this and

40:49

be characterization of it in

40:52

the BBC whether it matched

40:54

what David Kelly had told this reporter

40:57

weather was supposed to be entirely on background

41:00

arm ain't it's it's. Just huge

41:02

mass right arm and their

41:04

this he ended up dying from suicide prior.

41:07

to this the episode

41:09

narrative i didn't spend a lot of time i didn't

41:11

want to cut a tunnicliffe cause it's kind of grotesque

41:14

in some ways death but alex's

41:16

just insisting that the government killed him

41:18

off because he was yeah

41:20

blowing the whistle alex exaggerates

41:23

the actions and the circumstances

41:25

around it's ever gonna play this one point

41:27

because i think It's

41:30

important to recognize how Alex

41:32

takes. Then. Absence of

41:34

information and now he has, he has

41:36

no idea what happened on

41:39

this guy was announced dead

41:41

hours before this show,

41:43

so he knows all the details he needs to. Right

41:45

there isn't any available information

41:47

so mad space, he just

41:50

declares it essentially a cover

41:52

up or murder fray odd because.

41:55

More interesting for had it. That's

41:57

all coming up more on the British your

41:59

dog. Hi there. It

42:01

was high level, ministry defense. The

42:04

balls were comrades.

42:06

My boy or the false evidence of weapons of mass destruction.

42:10

Then. Last night that.

42:13

being threatened and being mistreated the

42:15

bbc said Then and,

42:17

but because he was one of the Lakers. These

42:20

are leaking, but an otherwise course

42:23

the government won't say how he died, I'm sure the family

42:25

be told to shut up, you will never come out how he daughter maybe

42:27

we'll out. loaded files

42:29

are about to go to add what

42:31

is the point of saying: "It'll

42:34

never come out how he died or maybe it

42:36

well who knows what is the point of

42:38

that except to inject"

42:40

On the healthy distrust, get like

42:43

just complete knee jerk

42:45

based on nothing distrust. The

42:48

A and an expectation of

42:50

everything is alive, yeah, and I

42:52

think that that's not helpful,

42:55

yeah, mean. You use

42:57

you're saying. Look. Anything

42:59

could happen, but whatever it is they tell

43:01

you is not true or not, it's the same thing

43:04

that we heard him say as it relates

43:06

to the invasion of Ukraine. Down our

43:08

last episode and you'll never know the actual

43:10

death numbers, it though, never how you

43:12

have a trio, never now did he not do it, you'll

43:14

never know, and if. You find out they're lying to

43:16

you and if what they're lying to you is what's true

43:19

they're lying to you about what's true July

43:21

to you about it it, up. It's it's

43:23

an attempt to insulate all information

43:26

sources. are on the outside

43:28

of the audiences acceptance

43:30

trust no one but me he opts so

43:33

alex could go from another

43:35

guy who wants to ask about the this

43:37

fella Got himself little militia

43:39

going a.

43:40

I live in Alex we.

43:42

respect your opinion on a born

43:45

from you own smurf might not be

43:48

The web that couple of days ago

43:51

it's. family two thousand and two dot

43:53

org Are you

43:55

familiar with Rick Stanley is?

43:58

Due to the test. Melissa.

44:01

They do know you issued preliminary

44:03

militia alert. And

44:06

we're not least. Though

44:08

we have an obligation to.

44:11

Don't like minded friends.

44:15

A windy, the Stanley individuals

44:17

he and tax and, like my eyes in Denver. Actually,

44:22

I'm heard that name somewhere is.

44:25

The regarded the a job.

44:28

What did the Capital Army got a relative that

44:30

the issue here apparently

44:33

he looks like the we don't have second amendment to

44:35

said, the news I'm gonna go with gun?

44:37

The holstered as I have his right knee,

44:39

water money going arrest, and he did. Every

44:42

said in that case quote because there's you

44:44

can't be argued that was one of them. The

44:47

Eagles. Then don't know

44:49

what he is calling for, need to

44:51

get him on.

44:52

Is. So, so this is the Denver

44:54

case that Alex was referencing earlier, A,

44:56

which is weird because he was referencing

44:59

it sort of abstractly, and then this caller calls

45:01

in that not. In response

45:03

to Alex's comment, but brings up the guy

45:05

that case was about that nuts

45:08

nice coincidence, so this guy's website Stanley

45:10

to Thousand to Dot.org org because he's

45:12

running. For Senate in Colorado is libertarian

45:15

at this point or did. Spoiler!

45:17

Alert he didn't do too well, how did

45:19

somehow get one hundred eleven votes, which

45:21

is way more than I would have expected, bet

45:23

it was all from quote like minded.

45:26

People could be part of why

45:28

am shocked to get as many voters because he's clearly

45:30

an insane person based on the scholar analysis

45:32

description of him, but also because

45:34

he. gotten a bit of trouble prior to the election

45:37

due to some bad behavior in an online

45:39

discussion about immigration cr

45:41

his behavior was apparently so offensive

45:43

that is Webmaster quit over. It to which

45:45

Stanley commented to the Rocky Mountain news

45:48

quote: "Michelle is very emotional

45:50

woman's surprise in politics,

45:52

there might be emotional women.

45:55

Ah or.

45:58

how seems like an ai

46:00

Just wow, you know, that says

46:02

those guys so in this discussion about immigration

46:05

for some reason Stanley decided

46:07

to post a really offensive racist poem

46:09

titled illegal I can't find

46:11

the full text to it", but here's the part that quoted

46:14

in the Rocky Mountain News.

46:15

Wealthy welfare check welfare

46:18

check: They keep you wealthy medicaid,

46:20

it keeps you healthy by and by

46:22

I got plenty thanks to you American

46:24

dummy. Don't really rhyme

46:27

necessarily, but that's getting of it, and

46:29

apparently here's the last line or

46:31

from the poem quote. We think

46:33

America darn good place to

46:35

darn good for the White Man race, if

46:37

they know like us, they can go got

46:40

lots of room and Mexico.

46:44

Oh you know racist

46:46

poetry his early fall and since

46:48

a white man's burden you know like at

46:50

least white man's burden had structure

46:53

to with this.

46:55

action did not sit well with folks

46:58

the idea of

46:59

Contributing this racist poem to an online

47:02

discussion about him because he's a few

47:04

hundred years later you, hundred

47:06

years later that being great poem

47:08

yeah so he took little bit of heat. for

47:11

that know how press yeah maybe he

47:13

went from one hundred fifteen votes two hundred

47:15

eleven is correct so the event that

47:17

alex and scholar talking about isn't quite what

47:19

they're making it out to be stanley

47:21

have gotten arrested for open carrying

47:23

three fifty seven at campaign of that

47:25

which is illegal in the town that he was in that

47:28

would be one thing and maybe to be situation

47:31

with that happened where you could appeal it and see

47:33

if you get the law changed but stanley's

47:35

real weirdos he took different route Then.

47:38

Was that to start his ninety day's sentence

47:40

in jail that he got for this open carry violation,

47:43

but he didn't show up, oh,

47:45

that's gonna go wrong, instead he decided

47:48

that? He was gonna threaten the judges in town

47:50

that if they didn't overturn the verdict in his

47:52

case, now he and his mutual defense packed

47:54

militia would arrest them and try them. For

47:56

treason. You gotta eat of

47:58

them notices and. Guess? What this

48:00

is way more illegal than open carry,

48:03

oh yeah, what he wrote about it while the core put in

48:05

protective orders against him to ensure

48:07

the safety of the judge's. Orders with Stanley

48:09

was explicit that he did not accept as real

48:12

is this led to getting Swat teams

48:14

to have to protect the judges from the potential

48:16

threat that this guy. "In his militias

48:19

that he clearly believes are above that, I

48:21

mean, hey, you know, he are you a sense

48:23

to six years in jail and after the sentencing",

48:25

he was quoted. As saying quote, the only victim

48:28

here is Rick Stanley on behalf of every

48:30

O'Maha, mean that I was thinking

48:32

that it's final words are going to be like what'd.

48:35

do vs said. that

48:37

this guy who they're talking about

48:39

i'm just out here trying to be that do you guys

48:41

are the ones going crazy it's farmhouses these

48:44

kinds of people and

48:46

they're clearly fucked up behavior

48:48

right gets reinterpreted and repackaged

48:50

on our to show as like you know what he

48:52

was just going to be a

48:55

symbolic protest or not gun to

48:57

the courthouse whole lot of say it to bring

48:59

attention to gun right he just one of them out

49:01

with building know what was going on

49:03

And then the F. B. I was like you can't use

49:05

the constitution and then he will. Like

49:07

I'm going to kill these judges and don't even need

49:10

to me it takes.

49:13

users open carrying a three thirty seven

49:15

magnets as the makeover

49:17

The you fucking political rallies like

49:19

people who are doing good thing.

49:20

Do I honestly think

49:22

that you know based on? Whatever

49:26

don't think him having that the gun at

49:28

his rally is necessarily

49:30

the biggest deal that's why he only would have gotten ninety

49:33

days in jail for it and

49:35

to be the kind of wedges you that Alex

49:37

what wants to present it as him

49:40

having begun the rally.

49:42

Who'd? Be the case that you use as a

49:44

or something this to initiate larger discussion

49:46

about it, yet reddening judges

49:49

that's where you are wrong, yeah, you'd take

49:51

the ninety. Day sentence yep below

49:53

at way out of proportion and you go ninety

49:55

days, they might as well be killing my child,

49:58

you know, and then is the second.

50:00

Mad men got up are you do all that we forget

50:02

the part where they're threatening judges yeah

50:05

but the threatening judges part where you go to jail for six

50:07

years that? one's going to really hurt the other

50:09

hand i think really be one of the parts that

50:11

may be threats to the judges more

50:14

problematic was the it was clearly

50:16

you have to overturn my sons or

50:19

they're just got the yeah that's a threat the

50:21

m You

50:23

know clear the your intentions clear right and

50:25

the fact that he was saying that he

50:27

had the backing of this militia group

50:29

he had those two things combined

50:31

made the thread a little bit more difficult.

50:34

for him to

50:35

Not. Get in trouble, I mean, ideologically, libertarians

50:38

are okay with extortion, guess, so

50:40

that's just a huge my of justice speeds

50:43

that with gun at your head

50:45

so outskirts another. Color and him

50:47

man, there's lot of weirdos we're didn't play

50:49

and shout out on this episode.

50:52

The guy to do some Idaho damn, I

50:54

thought it was gonna mention this guy is this

50:57

to me and my opinion is. Really

50:59

important to us, he is

51:02

a got strategy for gradual. Ramsey

51:05

of things orderly transition back to the

51:07

law of the land. Have!

51:09

You know which basically but this

51:11

guy knows why you never hear about view

51:13

that rules years and all those guys which,

51:16

in my opinion, there distract yourself and

51:18

submission. ,

51:21

tried going it probably was not ratified,

51:24

however, what you don't need to go that route

51:27

there's another way but but, mean,

51:29

I've shown same becoming mandatory. The guy's name first

51:31

theory eight months and they've got him in

51:33

prison in Mississippi even. know what's

51:36

not The executed.

51:39

He. Got a jury trial and server trial by

51:41

jury, ah,

51:43

oh, my God so does really exciting,

51:46

another person has violence

51:48

free plan on how to revert the governor back

51:50

to. A lot of the land situation

51:52

without a guess probably has to me and sovereign

51:54

citizens years gotta go guy's just talking

51:56

about like, you know, taxes being illegal

51:59

of acquired. Shit! Gary. Gary DeMar

52:01

got arrested for filing fraudulent tax

52:03

returns and helping other people file

52:05

fraudulent tax returns, but the larger

52:08

picture of his career is that he's another really

52:10

scary militia demagogue. The tried to

52:12

take over county and Idaho and,

52:14

ninety six he was the head of group

52:16

called the Idaho sovereignty Association,

52:19

which is naturally sovereign citizen.

52:21

Groups apparently part of his

52:23

belief system is that your constitutional

52:25

rights are actually your property in literal

52:28

sense and each of them is worth one hundred

52:30

thousand dollars, if.

52:32

You deprive someone have right you owe them

52:34

hundred. grand that's all right

52:37

well I. Like

52:39

this sure I, do

52:41

I have certain like this idea

52:44

you could sell your right them do it,

52:46

you know you could sell your third or modify

52:49

all things. That them

52:51

or to have that a fetish for cutting off

52:53

my own leg, something to sell you my

52:55

rights to keep it soldiers

52:57

could be have to force

52:59

you to put. them up for our data about

53:02

I think that fine I'll take that,

53:04

so this is the him into effect because there was a woman

53:07

in the area whose husband had died. And

53:09

she had Alzheimer's be judge

53:11

in Ada County had assigned guardian

53:13

to take care of her which Dimmock claimed was violation

53:16

of this woman's due process rights, Your.

53:19

I have no idea how he was connected

53:21

to this woman and is entirely possible he had no

53:23

connection to wear a I'm just found year

53:26

I have no idea anyway. Demar was really

53:28

mad about their, so he gave notice that he

53:30

and his group plan to arrest the judge Patricia

53:33

Flanagan, but this wasn't all

53:35

he was also demanding that every.

53:37

Other officials needed to retake their oath

53:39

of office with the words so help me God

53:42

added or they would risk being

53:44

of arrested by his. melissa it

53:46

was important to these words be added cause du mont

53:48

thinks that not having so help me god

53:51

in there is a loophole that

53:53

allows these officials to commit perjury

53:55

that it actually be in perjury right so

53:58

from an article in the so Then. Press

54:00

or nineteen eighty six quote those

54:02

who receive notices will have ten days

54:04

to take new oath of office on September

54:06

twenty eighth town priors will read the

54:09

names of those. Who have not come complied

54:11

with the steps from every county courthouse

54:13

in Idaho unreal I.

54:16

i honestly like

54:18

There's no way to solve this problem

54:20

for good, except I have a thought

54:22

in how about we gather all of

54:24

these people. All right. And

54:27

if you're militia person who does stuff

54:29

like this?

54:30

You just get put under a giant dome, you

54:32

go to sleep all of sudden you wake up, you're in

54:34

giant dome real lost scenario,

54:37

you know nobody knows what's going on,

54:39

but you're.

54:40

In jail, that's better right,

54:42

go live in your little utopia where you can

54:45

be in.

54:46

An old worst put him under a don't,

54:48

I do think a Truman

54:50

show of like so

54:52

only way for an idea.

54:55

One of the things will be at things you did that, almost like

54:57

a social experiment, is that these

54:59

people would not get along know they'd all

55:01

be dead in short of the not

55:03

dead, the be threatening to arrest each other. We

55:06

had me. We're.

55:13

Derby idea for grifter islanders, yeah,

55:15

exactly when point give lot of Iowa

55:17

have read these, people

55:19

need to be isolated from the rest of humanity

55:21

that's really the the. Issue that we're dealing

55:23

with, they shouldn't be harmed because was

55:25

just people trying to go about their days, but they also

55:27

didn't interact with the rest of society because

55:29

they're going. To kill people role as live that kill

55:32

people just waste February

55:34

one line ruin everybody's day

55:36

or five people are all the time so.

55:39

he put out this order that everyone

55:41

had to retake their oath of office or they are

55:43

getting in trouble and then from there

55:45

to my plan to arrest all the officials who

55:47

didn't read take their oaths and justice

55:50

flanagan she was gone down he

55:52

was going to do this with the help of sheriff's deputies

55:54

but if they didn't go along with the plant

55:56

tomatoes he was gonna arrest for sir i was gonna

55:58

say your ear You've. Already getting

56:00

the that, my order,

56:03

my marching orders only come by a threat

56:05

not by any for established

56:08

authority of I love the like sheriff

56:10

is the highest. Law of the way, another word also,

56:12

if we don't go on with may allow, would have been killed

56:14

in the eyes anyway, this guy's attacks protester

56:16

sovereign citizen proponent to try. Do

56:19

agree plans take over County in Idaho

56:21

in the mid nineties?

56:23

The old school, I was the thing

56:25

at the time, you know, a lot of old school weirdos

56:27

thought they have this episode, I mean. You

56:29

know, a gay people.

56:31

The fetish for cannibalism sovereign

56:33

citizens have a fetish for overthrowing

56:36

elected local government by way of wilderness,

56:40

rate of threat yes exactly yeah

56:42

everybody knows this is just the one of

56:44

those things. so in

56:46

the next group or out who's complaining about

56:48

the patriot shows have patriot

56:50

shows another like knitting circles

56:53

ah patriots are

56:55

you know i'm dozen like the drama

56:57

but

56:58

I would say that at the end of this clip, Alex,

57:00

that gives a piece of advice that he himself should

57:03

have taken. Listening to sack of the.

57:06

Almost all shows are. Are

57:09

we basically sewing circles?

57:12

More people in one particular

57:14

sliver of the Patriot movement and yes,

57:16

they know what we're talking about, yes, there is on,

57:18

as anybody can be. There are aware

57:21

what's going on. I was talking about

57:23

Mister Stanley when said the. Yeah,

57:26

government violence when was saying was

57:28

is the year's thing and. Like

57:30

margins are Washington and things like that

57:33

the backfire against isn't are very dangerous

57:35

oh.

57:37

They. Use things to

57:39

backfire on us, not we are

57:41

a bunch of idiots who have bad

57:43

ideas that when they are put into practice,

57:46

even we are forced to acknowledge their so.

57:48

Fucking stupid lot job, you

57:50

know, they tried get us to take over counties

57:53

in Idaho the record, I joined the

57:55

things that we say or a good idea, and then.

57:57

When it turns out they're bad ideas, it's probably

57:59

their fault problem.

58:00

Then. Way out of a yeah, but I think

58:02

it's interesting that a two thousand three Alexander

58:04

pretty strong like Don't go on March

58:06

on Washington Amazing Cause an

58:08

estimated of use. That incites, I

58:10

guess it's just you just

58:12

never it that it's never not there,

58:14

you know, Cf aren't so on

58:16

this episode he took a lot of calls and

58:18

I did. Get the sense that he was getting

58:21

annoyed at them death of, but

58:23

it wasn't it wasn't like and there were never any

58:25

real blow up sure what they're worth

58:28

of. Then you know the are you are you

58:30

having a feud with another caller, yeah, fuck

58:32

you talk about that moment, then

58:34

it whether these people are bringing up these. Other

58:37

folks Gary Demar and Bricks

58:39

family Alex is kind of. being

58:42

paid Don't bring up

58:44

other people on my show I'm

58:46

patriot hair is it safe?

58:48

there is little bit of him being like That

58:51

I wish my colleagues were in also stupid.

58:53

Though or I was, they weren't promoting

58:55

other people sure sure, but mean, like, wish

58:57

they were more my, the, you know, wish

59:00

they weren't.

59:02

With me on my team for my, so instead

59:04

of throwing wrenches into it every time, whatever

59:06

it is, it's a slight disappointment, yes, it

59:09

is Alex addresses that.

59:11

There are no it's Friday last

59:13

segment and I've been I've got a headache today,

59:15

I have a little grumpy, the Callers I'm sorry.

59:19

I'm just mad of the new world order Fox, I am

59:21

on felt like an alligator just snapping

59:23

at all different directions here.

59:25

I'm so mad at the new world order the anti

59:28

new world order Alligator I.

59:31

am your i'm not going to do i'm not going to be like i'm

59:33

having a bad day or of hung over

59:35

i'm never going to do that again i'm just gonna be like listen i'm

59:37

sorry i snapped at you have an hour or so

59:40

mad at the new world order i'm not gonna get

59:42

i'm an alligator can't stop snapping because

59:44

of the new world order may yeah thought

59:47

think though like if you hear that

59:50

it sounds more genuine it sounds

59:52

more sincere there and he's

59:54

like apologies for outbursts in the present day

59:56

malik very there is like yeah believe

59:59

he has a headache That and I obviously

1:00:01

don't think that he's just mad at

1:00:03

the new world order and that's why mess and

1:00:06

every with these colors think I,

1:00:08

think he's probably. a

1:00:10

We're. About to have a weekend, yeah,

1:00:13

our of mentally checked out of here specific

1:00:15

have headache the right so if people are dicks,

1:00:17

ah, but I'm gonna take the high road. And be

1:00:19

like I'm just mad at the new world order, sorry guys,

1:00:21

I don't mean to be an asshole right that seems like

1:00:24

a boy like human face. An olive

1:00:26

branch yeah now say now we're

1:00:28

all good yeah I'm. so if

1:00:30

one last clip your and at the end of the show alex

1:00:33

was wants to touch back on this that this

1:00:35

cannibals thing sure and i you gotta

1:00:37

and yeah think you can be kind

1:00:39

to get a sense of what's going on here or it involves

1:00:42

i read about these homosexuals

1:00:43

They go down a Mexico, have leg cut off

1:00:45

and then A.

1:00:47

lovingly why Salami

1:00:49

me off of it and. Maloney

1:00:51

is that in it and then the have little parties.

1:00:54

The rolling stone, which is liberal, said my

1:00:56

gosh. Part of a gay man

1:00:58

on the circles and now. There was

1:01:01

just go want aids, I mean folks. The

1:01:03

talk about. The lifestyle.

1:01:06

I'll be arrested as a hey criminal proceedings

1:01:08

it wanting to be killed and eaten is wrong.

1:01:12

In liberal read, your scientists no right to be

1:01:14

killed any other want to him around with answer

1:01:16

is ours, whatever just is

1:01:18

fine, okay? I'm wrong

1:01:21

I'm in Extremis Saga is, as I guess, is also

1:01:23

on them.

1:01:24

That. Is what I'm talking about earlier, the strategic

1:01:26

aspect of their there's a stupid game,

1:01:28

but Alex is playing and he knows exactly what

1:01:30

he's doing and what kind of response is.

1:01:32

likely to elicit he's not

1:01:34

talking about this case of the German cannibal

1:01:37

as it really exists, he's using it

1:01:39

as data point to attack the entire population

1:01:41

of gay people. By applying the sacked for this one,

1:01:44

cannibal to the entire community, he

1:01:46

knows what he's doing, goal is to malign

1:01:48

and dehumanize gay people he knows

1:01:51

the people will see. Through that and he's

1:01:53

gonna get some criticism for which

1:01:55

he'll just save people trying to insist that he's

1:01:57

big, it's because he doesn't want people to eat

1:01:59

each other. It's simple flight of

1:02:01

him to read where he's trying to mask

1:02:04

the homophobia of it's behind his rhetoric.

1:02:06

Then. With this there's like,

1:02:08

oh, they say, I'm such big because I

1:02:11

don't like Hannibal saw here

1:02:13

am using one story to

1:02:15

denigrate an entire group of people

1:02:18

without any. Connection between the

1:02:20

two whatsoever and now people

1:02:22

are calling me a big is, I what's

1:02:24

next for the last time do

1:02:27

probably, you know, have

1:02:29

as he wasn't. Paying super close attention to

1:02:31

things in two thousand and three around

1:02:33

cannibal nose or but would

1:02:35

bet that they're worse, at least some

1:02:38

people who were saying that like

1:02:40

you. Do have a right to agree

1:02:42

to. Then. Have yourself even sure,

1:02:44

but I would guess that a lot of number libertarian

1:02:47

I, would say that fundamental as

1:02:50

my self ownership, you

1:02:52

own yours and you. Can sell your leg for one hundred

1:02:54

thousand dollars for food, ah, I

1:02:56

guess that's fine if you're a libertarian right, I

1:02:58

would, would assume, so it's

1:03:00

a long. As you're not entering

1:03:02

into it as like being coerced into

1:03:05

the contract I want, don't see why libertarian

1:03:07

that have a problem with the of your libertarian can

1:03:09

sell. A kidney on the black market than I should

1:03:11

be able to sell my leg on the black market right

1:03:14

idea, and if it's for a transplant

1:03:16

was that any different than. Some on eating totally

1:03:18

like maybe to hey baby hype of eat maybe

1:03:21

it offends your sensibilities your why

1:03:23

should your sensibilities rule? how i

1:03:25

mean how do you know going to die for and scientists

1:03:27

would feel about you taking an organ

1:03:29

and putting it in somebody elses body that would be very

1:03:31

unhappy with it probably as a matter

1:03:34

of perspective indeed

1:03:36

so i think that there probably

1:03:38

were some voices that were like that but alex's

1:03:41

mischaracterizing it is like the entire left

1:03:43

is just like yeah hooray for eating been home

1:03:46

but that's because he knows they s

1:03:48

people catch on to the game yeah

1:03:50

the homophobic game but he's playing Yeah,

1:03:53

that in his back pocket as like a preemptive

1:03:55

defense right and it's it's. Then

1:03:58

I hesitate to call it. Smart. But

1:04:00

there there's a craft, do it as little bit of strategy,

1:04:03

sir, it's cunning not smart,

1:04:06

it's like I it's like what you describe

1:04:08

a rat as. Having not intelligence but

1:04:11

the, loving threatening that low level of

1:04:13

con yes it's just recognizing.

1:04:16

the likely consequences of the

1:04:19

rhetoric that your disseminated now and

1:04:21

planning in advance to not

1:04:24

have to own the consequences

1:04:26

It is it is fun though to bake

1:04:28

up stereotypes that are that batshit crazy

1:04:31

like the I mean.

1:04:32

As. It is offensive and it is bigoted,

1:04:35

but at the same time, if there was like a desk,

1:04:37

am comet in the nineties who

1:04:39

is like, "Man, you ever noticed how gay?"

1:04:42

People be eaten legs that exists

1:04:44

at as you'd be like, "Yeah, that's insane

1:04:46

man that's the craziest fucking stereotypes I've

1:04:49

ever heard that's insane to buy yacht if

1:04:51

I" Saw said: "I wouldn't think the

1:04:53

joke was funny how he be like, would

1:04:55

you say that I would be?"

1:04:56

Increased yeah,

1:04:59

you've taught us are talking about sir yeah.

1:05:02

but for alex it's a little bit less intriguing

1:05:05

because you know what it's rooted at the yeah

1:05:07

it's just pure bigotry but it's third

1:05:10

absurdist it am death so

1:05:12

are we going to the end of this two thousand

1:05:14

three episode and i you know

1:05:16

think that so cannibals get

1:05:18

a lot of attention they do at not

1:05:21

enough anymore i'd say they've they

1:05:23

had their run deep homophobia

1:05:25

owning throughout the season and

1:05:28

The callers.

1:05:29

Are much more interesting,

1:05:32

I think, in the past than in the present

1:05:34

death of, and that's because think

1:05:36

that a lot of them are.

1:05:39

The like. Really interested in

1:05:41

weird fringe militia.

1:05:43

eat community death and so they bring some

1:05:45

of that sensibility to alex's show

1:05:48

whereas now he doesn't take a whole

1:05:50

lotta collars, most of them just

1:05:52

parrot back to him, what he said, yeah,

1:05:54

and then other ones are sometimes it's

1:05:56

just plug for his product right and

1:05:58

then there's like Carlos from can.

1:06:00

The holes in every fucking time

1:06:02

Alex takes calls.

1:06:03

And the out just tapes

1:06:05

it's not it's. not

1:06:07

like this yes i mean it

1:06:09

is will almost said cute

1:06:12

but think the word i'm thinking of his quaint

1:06:14

Like all of these callers are

1:06:17

almost quaint like the not look at you

1:06:19

with your.

1:06:20

This is this guy from Denver

1:06:22

is of leading oh well as a years

1:06:24

at that que school in our it's you.

1:06:27

know what it is be even beyond quaintness

1:06:29

it feels like sustainable ecosystem

1:06:32

yeah it hasn't self selected

1:06:34

out for lunatic lawyer the even wow

1:06:36

i'm in wedding even though it's bigoted

1:06:38

show and you know obviously

1:06:41

everything as the saying stupid or

1:06:43

awful

1:06:44

Does? It feel destined for collapse

1:06:47

no no, it really doesn't it there's

1:06:49

not there's not like a feeling

1:06:51

of it, doesn't feel destined

1:06:53

for success either though so kind

1:06:55

of feels. Like if this if this

1:06:57

exact show happened every day

1:07:00

with an audience of like two hundred

1:07:02

thousand people it could have gone on for

1:07:04

ever. you know like this could have just

1:07:06

been played out every day for the rest of

1:07:08

our lives no one would really know about

1:07:10

it but human the two hundred thousand people many

1:07:13

would have been fine there

1:07:16

Here. We are his ambitions what,

1:07:19

are you going to their like Icarus his wings flew

1:07:21

him to close to us on know if only it weren't

1:07:23

a pattern that played out? Every single fucking

1:07:25

day or the problem was what he got bed with

1:07:27

mister blood, that

1:07:31

was there they were in all have our the beginning

1:07:33

of the at very. Obviously Mr

1:07:35

Blood and with the, goal but I'm

1:07:38

so done we'll be back in arma

1:07:40

absurd on Monday ah probably

1:07:42

back to the present day we'll see Voucher's vacation

1:07:45

at. Last the rest of the week maybe in the forest.

1:07:47

forget good be and then

1:07:49

the show become all oh and shroyer all

1:07:51

the time