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when you leave him

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hi i'm a huge

0:51

fan

0:51

we were always face

0:55

knowledge , parker parker

0:59

say about i will go back know try

1:01

to bear arms to i will double do but sit around

1:03

were super the author of saline from afar

1:05

in this hotel room over here and talk a little bit

1:07

about alex joe law indeed we are

1:09

they endured a sword and quick

1:11

question for yes up the space but that the space

1:14

by bright spot jordan is that

1:16

i went to the seven eleven out

1:18

as impressive can't easy and walk

1:20

about the candy iowa has always been a big

1:22

fan of swedish fish really

1:24

yeah likely discussed oh wow yeah

1:26

okay i think it's probably something to do with my

1:28

dad like growing up there are some of

1:31

the things that he really liked see artifice

1:33

yeah assess assess and you swedish i'm

1:36

i like swedish fish my dad likes

1:38

me as fish but also he was also big fan of

1:40

like marzipan and that one didn't

1:42

carry over didn't don't like marzipan

1:44

gotcha the to switch are fine

1:46

anyway my bright spot is there i saw

1:49

a bag the swedish fish

1:51

and friends i was excited about this

1:55

is my first we've had a wig

1:58

to log assists

1:59

there are two flavors isolated

2:02

or and i'm flavor not good oh well that

2:04

makes others strawberry dolphin and

2:07

dolphin and turtle

2:10

the old we've won national litter they

2:12

i'm oh that's a great clinton's a girl

2:14

swedish assets that kind of offensive

2:16

to bay area the hundred eighty i read as

2:18

it all fits a rainbow world now you know

2:20

your your norwegian a turtle i'm

2:23

happy to get that what's your broke

2:25

for a by bright spot

2:28

is that a a boy it's

2:30

saturday at the that i'm not i

2:32

don't have to live tweeted trial today i remember

2:34

my bright spot yeah that is true it is you

2:36

guys the day off from your new guy you know it

2:39

, cetera i know a

2:42

and know i it's just as i type

2:44

a lot it's really hard and it hurts your finger

2:46

yeah i dunno how you do it it a

2:48

lot yeah i wrote a i think

2:51

twenty thousand words yesterday as a book

2:53

i know that's what my what fucked

2:56

up yeah so yeah it

2:58

is nice uh-huh yeah to free up

3:00

uzbek i haven't felt haven't they're

3:02

just soft and gentle all day you gotta play piano

3:05

lotion you gotta i'm trying i'm trying

3:07

i'm gonna learn well a

3:09

i'm happy for you paint and you'll have to be back

3:11

on metal i know you know you gotta do finger

3:13

pressure yeah get ready

3:15

for a month bad the bruce lee to finger

3:17

original ikea yeah you're right you're right i got

3:19

to step up my game so jordan today

3:22

yes we are doing the

3:25

, that we have to do do

3:28

that is the follow up to alex's

3:30

war coverage of that after

3:33

the premiere of that film they

3:36

did a little q and i were glenn

3:38

greenwald interviewed alex jones

3:41

and alex li moyer the a document

3:43

area the who directed this film

3:46

the a day did not have their bikes

3:48

really working in the sound was really terrible

3:51

for the portion were moyer

3:53

was interviewed sir zone i had talk about

3:55

any of that ah i wonder if she's mad at the crew

3:57

i would be maybe not actually maybe

3:59

it's the not know exactly how

4:01

that interview wet right so we've just

4:04

got alex's junk and honestly it's

4:06

like forty something minutes of

4:08

an interview and i'm

4:11

a red sox it will take

4:13

more than forty minutes to talk about i've

4:15

met i've surprising fairly certain

4:17

so i would your feelings going into those what

4:19

are your expectations ah man i

4:22

my my feeling is that it's

4:24

going to be glenn greenwald is

4:26

doing these softball east

4:28

of interview like not even softball

4:30

questions that t ball questions

4:32

like he's swinging the bat for

4:35

alex to drain get that ball

4:37

across the fucking plate that's what

4:39

i feel like the intersect will save their lives

4:42

up to your expectation okay

4:44

so a before we didn't

4:46

the actual interview i've do things

4:48

i want to say i have some com at georgia

4:51

get very excited he did he though

4:53

i've been tracking some reactions to

4:56

this new documentary about alex and i

4:58

have to say that i've just been seeing more

5:00

and more shit takes it sincerely

5:02

unbelievable to me that any wanted watch

5:04

this film and come away accepting the argument

5:07

that the producers and director just showed alex

5:09

as he is that such

5:11

an offensive and gas lighting farce that i

5:13

feel the need to address this again and

5:16

really sharpen the point that i'm making

5:18

on the day before the film was released matter

5:20

you be published a fawning interview with

5:22

director alex li moyer on his sub stack

5:25

in his introduction to the interview tell you be says

5:28

quote she takes characters reduced

5:30

in panic media treatments to two

5:32

dimensional month or two two dimensional monsters

5:35

and renders a non judgmental taught

5:37

li edited herzog you and treatment

5:41

of who they are who they are and how

5:44

they came to be that way these

5:46

are the absolute nonsense is why we're herzog

5:48

i would not take kindly to this kind of

5:50

a suggestion but i want to ask

5:53

what exactly is bed by non

5:55

judgmental hear that

5:57

seems like a really important concept to nail down

5:59

because seems like this is something moyer

6:01

and the film's defenders are really proud

6:04

of be i would guess

6:06

that from the other things i've read non judgmental

6:08

to these folks means that they don't include

6:10

critical voices in their films to provide

6:13

any other input and then they pat

6:15

themselves on the bat a whole bunch

6:17

for having the courage to let the audience decide

6:19

what to think about the subject of

6:21

the film i guess it's

6:24

fine to not include critical voices

6:26

in critical films but films really don't think

6:28

that you're gonna be able to save his even tried

6:30

to portray your subject as they are you're

6:33

just put your anger subject how they want

6:35

you to see them for

6:37

example alex life constantly contradicts

6:39

himself about biographical information

6:42

in this film but you aren't introduced

6:44

to somebody expressing their point in the films

6:47

see have no reason to suspect that

6:49

alex has been anything but honest

6:51

the audience is being allowed to make up their own mind

6:54

i guess but their options are believing

6:56

alex or choosing not to which

6:58

they have no reason to do based on

7:00

the film their watch another important

7:02

point is that you're editing the film according

7:05

to the whim of your subject which makes

7:07

it nearly impossible for an uninformed

7:09

viewer to make up their mind for themselves

7:12

if you're watching this film nothing about

7:14

it would give you any reason to distrust

7:16

alex's assertions that the only reason

7:18

anyone was mad at him about sandy hook

7:21

was because he tried he likes trump and

7:23

they needed something to smear him with there's

7:26

no reason at all from the material

7:28

in this film to not conclude that the

7:30

sandy hook parents like neil heathland

7:32

or scarlet lewis who we've been in the court

7:34

room with this week's are just tools

7:37

of an overzealous democratic machines

7:39

that wanted desperately to punish alex for

7:41

supporting trump that assertion

7:44

that narrative that alex tells

7:46

is not presented as just what this

7:48

guy is saying the film is structured

7:51

around descending that narrative the

7:53

only outcome of accepting boyars

7:55

claim that this is just non judgmental

7:58

and presenting our time years to

8:00

conclude that you either believes alex's version

8:02

of this story or see edited

8:04

or film in a way to strengthen the

8:06

story fully aware that it was full

8:08

of shit and is now bragging about how

8:10

great he is for not indicating that the audience

8:13

of maybe shouldn't trust this claim at all

8:15

it's weird yeah i we've

8:18

done this work and stupid dance all over like

8:20

over and over again with idiots like rogan

8:22

who want to have their cake and eat it too but then they

8:24

also want pie they want to talk

8:27

to and platform dangerous lunatics

8:29

and white wash their images but they don't want

8:31

to be criticized for it and not only that

8:33

they want to be treated like a the real heroes

8:35

for having the courage to do what they do and

8:38

much like with rogan i don't buy

8:40

that shit from moyer if

8:42

you're doing a documentary about documentary liar

8:44

or liar con man and you don't include any

8:47

content critical of that liar or con

8:49

man in your film you aren't doing

8:51

a documentary the com main is using

8:54

you as a medium to spread their message to

8:56

an audience they wouldn't have access do otherwise

8:59

you do have a responsibility in that

9:01

circumstance whether you choose to accept

9:03

it or not to

9:05

be totally clear here is moyer

9:08

in her own words on how she approaches

9:10

are film making this is run that interview with

9:12

tb quotes this

9:15

this i'm going to do with all of the documentaries

9:17

that i make by the way including the one

9:19

i just made about alex jones it's

9:22

not meant to confirm your biases it's

9:24

meant to actually show you what these people

9:26

are actually like and then you can make

9:29

an informed decision based off watching

9:31

the film it used to be called journalism

9:34

this will say in response to her telling a story

9:37

about how she had investors not want

9:39

to support her first film because you wouldn't

9:41

include the voices of people who had been harmed

9:43

by massage nests and school shooters

9:46

which is meant to connected to her choice to

9:48

not have critical voices of alex in

9:50

this film in a very real sense

9:52

she's kind of engaging in censorship

9:54

here because guess what ding dong a huge

9:57

part of who alex actually is and

9:59

what he's actually like is that he knows

10:01

that he's cause people and i'm normal

10:03

amount of pain and he doesn't give a shit

10:06

by not giving voice to that and not exploring

10:08

that side of him is kind of covering

10:11

up that aspect of his psyche because it's inconvenience

10:13

and probably too difficult of a subject

10:16

you to for you to pull off in this softball

10:18

as documentary now let

10:20

me focus on in on my point about

10:22

moyers approach by applying

10:25

it to a different situation smell

10:27

let's imagine that alex's war

10:29

actually he could be called a fair portraits

10:32

and that it provided the audience with enough information

10:34

to make an informed decision i totally

10:36

don't believe that but that's gonna be

10:38

the standard that will apply to another

10:41

situations and see how it feels

10:43

like they're really gonna wish they hadn't said that

10:46

the other throw that out that you're right now i

10:48

don't think it's going to go well for them either i just don't think they're

10:50

going to stand up to it that's just mates so what would

10:52

moyer say about someone who made a documentary

10:54

like hers about jim jones and like

10:56

i don't know nineteen seventy four

10:58

right when he was forming jonestown indiana

11:02

what is a person just let jim

11:04

jones tell his own story line

11:06

the whole time with no pushback from the director

11:08

or anyone in the film at all you'd

11:11

think that jim jones would be able

11:13

to spin a pretty good yarn and be able to

11:15

make the idea of heading to his compound

11:17

to earn his commune some like a pretty decent

11:20

idea people were having a great

11:22

time and you spreading a real message of

11:24

love and unity it's his word of god

11:26

guys coming through now

11:28

let's imagine forbid that this hypothetical documentary

11:31

a new that there were former members

11:33

of the peoples temple who had left and

11:35

alleged that jim jones had abused them both

11:37

physically and sexually step people

11:40

would come forward and alleged that jim jones

11:42

would punish dissenters by starving them

11:44

and ostracizing them from socializing

11:46

with the rest of the community this documentary

11:48

and do those things but decided not

11:51

to include any of them in the film because of a commitments

11:53

to just showing jim jones as

11:55

he really is well and everybody

11:58

knows that's when that have then

12:00

all of those people who did who left

12:02

they were just hired by carter to

12:04

smear jim jones everybody

12:06

knew that now let's imagine that

12:09

this hypothetical filmmaker edited together

12:11

the documentary of such a way that swelling

12:13

music played over zero shots of jim

12:15

jones and almost religious

12:18

soundscape served as the back room for

12:20

him talking about his religious awakening now

12:22

let's imagine that this hypothetical filmmaker

12:25

allowed jim jones is framing of his

12:27

life to inform the structure of

12:29

their documentary and how the story was told

12:31

so like you are touching on in this documentary

12:34

they do and up mentioning the allegations

12:36

of abuse of his followers but it's not

12:38

brought up as a negative thing about him instead

12:41

it's only mentioned is something that gym brushes

12:43

off to the side as an attack from the power structure

12:45

who were afraid of the religious revolution

12:48

that he was involved in and he's com you in indiana

12:50

and the possibilities of it a pose

12:52

i should have made a more extreme joke it's

12:55

a that was too obviously just what would've

12:57

happened well they the parallel sake

12:59

of yeah of course the mass murder

13:01

that and the the jonestown hadn't happened

13:04

yet so maybe some edgy assholes

13:06

of the day would say that this documentary filmmaker

13:08

was just giving a non judgmental view

13:10

of this public figure who somewhat polarizing

13:13

and if i were somebody who studied jim jones

13:15

back then as i am somebody who

13:17

studies alex jones right now i

13:20

would say that is complete bullshit portraying

13:23

jim jones in exactly the way the wants

13:25

to be portrayed with no context and know

13:27

countervailing information is very

13:29

likely to lead viewers to adopt a more

13:31

positive view of him and that would be

13:33

and dangerous thing to be a involved

13:36

thing in i

13:38

want to run through brick wall for you right now

13:40

i want to bounce my fucking

13:43

a head against the like let's stop record

13:45

exists right

13:49

, i'm

13:52

sure that the rebuttal to this

13:54

would be that alex jones is no jim

13:56

jones answer he doesn't have he doesn't

13:58

spot you're doing the know what you think that alex

14:01

doesn't pose as much potential danger

14:03

is jim jones dead by adopting

14:05

voyeurs approach you're essentially legitimising

14:08

the figures you're covering and making people more

14:10

likely to follow them and as

14:12

we've seen over the course of doing the show alex

14:14

is a completely unhinged child

14:16

unable to control his emotional outburst

14:19

who constantly tells his audience to keep

14:21

a list of globalists in their towns with of

14:23

know who to kill when the time comes he's

14:25

told his audience that it might be time to consider

14:28

if you could kill your family members

14:30

if they support vaccination he'd

14:32

stole the message that psych meds are mind

14:34

control weapons which could have be effective

14:37

making people not seek mental health care or

14:39

even worse to stop taking medications

14:41

that they're prescribed good

14:43

people boston if alex his actions have

14:46

real world consequences as

14:48

the people were the sandy hook victim's

14:50

family members the families

14:53

of igor soldo allen back

14:55

and joseph wilcox the three people

14:57

who are murdered by jared and amanda miller

14:59

and twenty four teams murders that were inspired

15:02

by their anti government views and which

15:04

dear to discuss beforehand on

15:06

the info wars forums ask

15:08

the family of tragically are deceased

15:10

marcel fontaine these are stories

15:13

that we know and they're be up

15:15

just the tip of the iceberg of the lives

15:17

that have been changed permanently by alex

15:19

was behaviors and alex doesn't

15:22

give and shit the company

15:24

was acting in the exact same ways that he

15:26

did that led to these people's grief because

15:29

it's profitable and these voices

15:31

are ignored and disrespected in this documentary

15:33

because actually covering alex as

15:35

he really is would be way too hard

15:38

and i suspect that it wouldn't have resulted

15:40

in the kind of movie that moyer wanted to make

15:44

they would have resulted in seven hundred

15:46

and ten episodes of some sort of assess

15:49

i think that might have a be what that might be what would

15:51

have happened it definitely wouldn't have resulted

15:53

in the sort of movie that she was looking for considering

15:55

that at least two of the producers of his films

15:58

were also producers of the truck propaganda

16:00

nonsense films the plot against the president

16:03

i'm actually boy were made a stupid an inaccurate

16:06

film one bed willfully omit

16:08

information the calls into question the subject

16:10

self delivered image of himself it's

16:13

a bad movie and it will hurt people

16:15

but it's her right to make it i

16:17

hope the money that you made doing it is worth

16:19

it but please spare me the sanctimonious

16:21

bullshit about how people can handle that

16:23

you do journalism your cut rate

16:25

editor producing semi slick character

16:27

studies not of alex jones but

16:30

of the person alex jones wants you to think

16:32

he is basically yours

16:34

embark if you think with his documentary

16:36

shows his alex as he really is

16:39

overall before we get into this q and a i

16:42

need to make one more point crystal clear which

16:44

is that the framing bit more your hands about

16:46

her own work that didn't even real

16:49

human interested in seeing these subjects as they

16:51

were eyes they are and that it is i'm sort of purity

16:54

to it's and the most obvious tell is

16:56

that see interviews always royal rob

16:58

do and might handsome in the documentary

17:01

they , provide a glimpse into alex

17:03

as he really is interviewing them

17:05

doesn't just so alex as years and

17:07

let's the audience decide for themselves

17:10

they are included because they're sycophantic

17:12

voices little echo the self aggrandizing

17:14

narrative that alex is telling about himself which

17:17

is the story that moyer wants to tell

17:19

including interviews with people who glorify

17:22

alex is counter to her pretend ethos

17:24

and kind of makes a joke of her insistence of not

17:26

interviewing critical voices in the name some

17:29

pretense of journalistic purity purity

17:32

is caught that's a condescending mask

17:34

she's wearing so she can elevator puff piece

17:36

brand rehabilitation project into

17:38

some kind of act of reporting that so brave

17:41

that we can't even understand it i

17:43

reject that shit entirely and it's really

17:45

sad to see people with actual media careers

17:48

falling for this kind of an act and

17:50

i can't stress this enough you would have

17:52

moyer thinks the to some kind of an uncritical

17:54

observer does dispassionately relaying

17:57

the story of alex's deluded jesus

18:00

later and she's creating some of your

18:02

input and biases are impossible not

18:04

to have an impact primitive

18:07

in a piece about the movies premier in the

18:09

new york magazine these lines made me

18:11

think maybe she's not so and parcel

18:13

of a duck's metairie this ah yes ending what

18:15

might that be quote she wants the x

18:18

files research serial killers

18:20

and conspiracies and generally respected misfits

18:23

disdain for authority was normalized

18:25

back then she says whereas now people worship

18:27

power in believe in toeing the line for

18:29

the state liberal outlets she

18:31

thinks have unwittingly lead credibility

18:33

to figures like jones thanks to their credulous

18:36

miss about official narratives quote

18:38

things of odds of the things they're calling

18:40

conspiracy theories are just gonna be news

18:42

item six months from now she says there

18:45

were w m d covert came from a bat

18:48

this is just her saying

18:50

alex his catchphrase in alex less the sink

18:52

the manner the info wars tomorrow's

18:55

news today life

18:57

but a business glenn greenwald as

18:59

a penchant for run on sentences so

19:01

in order to present his q in a in is fair of

19:03

a light as possible the tempted to

19:05

preserve as much of like that as possible

19:08

vms it's gonna lead some clips that are

19:10

longer than i would like and rambling meandering

19:12

questions but i would rather risk annoying

19:15

you van being

19:17

, listen just cause i am

19:19

not a very important person does it mean

19:21

that i shouldn't be okay with you treating

19:24

me like this this

19:26

of i've thought how

19:30

you feel i mean it's yes

19:32

it's just sad it's so sad

19:34

to see sox like just

19:37

on a level of like quality

19:39

much sucks deployed city

19:41

music like it's not like she had good

19:43

choices didn't have radio had

19:45

or anything on there that might have boosted

19:48

up the documentary from i got a copyright as

19:50

you would add travel without what yeah travel get clearing that

19:52

might have been an issue of yep definitely but like just

19:54

having own shroyer on their a man

19:56

whose literally man puppet help

20:00

describe yeah oh the subject

20:02

of the documentary what are you going to can wait

20:04

a second like what what is jeff dunham's

20:07

hand up a puppets ask going to

20:09

stay in a documentary about it but go jump

20:11

don't b well i mean he would say mean things but that's

20:13

not the point of what i'm trying to say a or one

20:15

sure he was going to say anything meaningful in the

20:18

documentary think well i'm essentially

20:20

unemployable in any other

20:22

media situation i'm stuck here

20:24

i'm saddled with this absolute so i'm

20:26

gonna say shitty things about my boss totally

20:28

totally yeah cool while alex his

20:30

hand is right all the way up my ass controlling

20:33

my mouth i'm going to be like i think he might

20:35

go too far sometimes like what are you

20:37

doing this is nonsense idea of

20:39

that like i'm just showing him as he is

20:41

it's so torpedoed by

20:44

the fact that you sought out my cancer

20:47

alec a get his a current employees

20:49

are at the time current employees also be

20:52

a move yeah but make him fifth

20:55

a goose it a there is there you

20:58

have your fork in high horse pretending that

21:00

like what what input is my

21:02

camp and giving the chose alex as he actually

21:04

is right the topic know

21:06

if giving mike hampton the impression of

21:08

alex right which is a positive

21:11

one you exclude all

21:13

made it is impressive of alex

21:15

death because you're not up to the task

21:18

of tell him that fucking story yeah i

21:20

think what it's it is tying together with

21:22

what i'm learning during this whole fucking experience

21:25

down here is that all

21:27

of these people are fucking cowards

21:29

who are afraid of anybody challenging

21:31

them and because they have a rabid

21:33

fan base that will attack people

21:36

who do challenge them a lot of people

21:38

don't discover that they're cowards fab

21:40

this little gem of people who

21:42

protect them and keep them from ever having

21:45

to realize that they're a bunch of fucking

21:47

cowardly baby so i have no competence

21:49

or quality had any effect me like

21:51

alex's nine be bodyguards yeah

21:54

oh my god and jesus christ

21:57

night there were given ninety bodyguards

21:59

for obama showing up

22:01

the court at all you missed it you missed

22:03

the best one whenever i left court or

22:05

the other day he he went out he went

22:07

across the street to go get a hero or submit

22:09

ratings and his ten bodyguards were surrounding

22:12

him and they were doing the funniest

22:14

like mission impossible as maneuvers

22:16

like people are check in the corner

22:18

and like a doctor said like a little

22:21

, there's no one they're

22:23

they're doing these mission impossible as

22:26

organizational boobs as fucking

22:28

sad a have like a really long

22:30

meetings before they go public about like

22:33

are we gotta keep an eye out for mukhtiar totally

22:35

worth a total adrenalin alex get milk

22:37

hurt and no offense at all but one of his

22:39

bodyguards is five foot three of you not

22:41

joking the by right now they are we not have a

22:43

fourth most as yes i did see the guess

22:46

guess was ill up in the air whether or not you'll never

22:48

know you'll never know hind a looks like

22:51

somebody from their beastie boys beastie through

22:54

a mustache to the much as a size of might stick

22:56

his forehead is what i would like to describe it as they

22:58

are so without further

23:00

ado jordan let's without further in

23:02

on this q and i arrived ah this

23:04

is not going to not be frustrating

23:06

for you

23:07

anyway starts with some compliments

23:11

loud , frustrating for by alex is not

23:13

yet on stage so this is just greenwald

23:15

and moyer okay okay say a

23:18

this week i had to spend time explaining

23:20

what i thought was never necessary to explain

23:22

what is you can if you're a journalist for example

23:24

going speak to someone without

23:26

making clear whether you love that person or hate

23:28

that person but simply the train understand them is

23:31

kind of fundamental to was

23:33

journalists are supposed to do and i think that's the same

23:35

for filmmakers and artists and documentary

23:37

and and the fact that you even after

23:39

explain yourself the fact of it's unusable

23:42

to watch a film without constantly

23:44

being bombarded with the filmmakers moral

23:47

perspective that

23:49

perspective think is a testament to just our press of

23:51

the society has become and i really want to

23:53

congratulate you for resisting not and

23:55

for kind of restoring what restoring think is the purpose

23:57

of art in journalism and

23:59

film and documentary n n n and documentaries

24:02

which is to show the public information

24:05

that they ought to have and let them decide what

24:07

they think about it as opposed to shoving that conclusion

24:09

down their face and life as a lot

24:11

easier for you as i said if you had chosen

24:14

a different route but i think it takes

24:16

it takes of courage for you to do then i think it's important so

24:18

i want to congratulate you for that

24:25

are you would want of a defining characteristics

24:27

of people you really shouldn't listen to our

24:29

people that have a mindless need to be

24:31

an opposition for instance i

24:33

think you're delusional if you don't think vehicle

24:36

glenn's believe that this documentary shows a fair

24:38

portrait of alex is in some way informed

24:41

by the fact that all of the media voices

24:43

he doesn't like are saying it's not

24:46

i , if you've watched this film ends

24:48

you see that this is gwen glenn's

24:50

take he's just a loser this

24:52

film isn't providing the information the people need

24:54

to make an informed decision it's

24:56

not just a dispassionate exercise

24:59

in journalism that people are just

25:01

mad at because it doesn't include the requisite

25:03

performance of outrage stats

25:05

the line these ding dongs tell themselves

25:07

so they can feel morally superior to everyone

25:09

else while they trot out there exploit a

25:11

to vanity projects split

25:13

look at this idea of an informed decision

25:16

decision would argue that in order to make an informed

25:19

decision you need of all the relevant information

25:21

about a subject for instance it

25:23

would be inappropriate for appeal to market

25:25

itself by exclusively talking about the

25:27

positive things that can do while completely

25:30

neglecting the potential side effects

25:32

can have similarly it wouldn't

25:34

serve a person at all as the coverage of

25:36

coverage pill focused entirely on the potential side

25:38

effects and ignored v saying that

25:40

it's effective in treating either

25:43

of these will give the person a lot

25:45

of information about the pill and questions

25:47

but neither would give them what they needed to make

25:49

an informed choice it might

25:51

give them the feeling that they had that informed

25:54

choice but that feeling is an illusion

25:57

this documentary does not give the viewers

25:59

the information to make any kind of an informed

26:01

decision about alex in order for

26:03

this film to actually be something that the viewer

26:05

can watch and make up their own mind about

26:07

the viewer would need to already entered the film

26:10

knowing that alex is a liar and nothing he

26:12

says can really be taken as sincere

26:14

you already need to know that there's a reason

26:17

not to trust him before you watch

26:19

and that's an absurd expectation to have

26:21

for most viewers who are randomly coming

26:23

into this films like i talk

26:25

to people periodically and

26:27

they're like what you do a guy do park as well alex

26:30

jones you know that yes and you

26:32

know he's not somebody who everyone

26:35

knows about there's a lot of people who have an unformed

26:37

opinion about him right and you go

26:39

into this documentary and all

26:41

the information that it provides is

26:43

incomplete the up with had say one

26:46

thinks he knows who alex's am he's

26:48

been told that this documentary provides

26:50

a fair portraits and people he doesn't like

26:52

don't like the movie so he gung ho about padding

26:55

himself on the back and congratulating boy

26:57

iran or act of enlightened still making

26:59

those basking in their own fucking delusions

27:01

and and illustrating how little they know about

27:03

the subject that they're actually zoc yeah i mean

27:05

it's disgusting i can't imagine

27:08

what are next selma mussolini a profile

27:10

in courage is going to be about vita

27:12

i think i've i've heard that it shows a balanced

27:15

view of mussolini right up until

27:17

nineteen forty one i you know

27:19

the just that he's a great guy not as

27:21

exalt misunderstood i think so

27:23

need to over correct and like

27:26

do some film about something

27:28

that i thought right wing angry or something

27:30

it's the overcorrected to jump off a bridge

27:33

so said that the wrong turn over to maybe

27:35

a little tool hundred artistically over

27:37

correct adversary was that

27:40

, no a puff piece about

27:44

about is so terrorists are so nice but

27:46

i don't know bill airs easily

27:48

the best well

27:51

they'll be an interesting that albeit his his exams

27:54

are you a alex comes out here we are

27:56

high so you want to end the weirdness of

27:58

talking about alex jones

27:59

right in front of him if it's if is not

28:02

here and bring him up and say side

28:05

the operating

28:05

mine our

28:14

never mind

28:15

you should have a may wonder why we

28:17

can share share ,

28:20

i mean mean have an office and you do

28:22

to be heard you on a on side

28:25

, hot that

28:27

are lobbying listen dad

28:30

got word that are that has to be honest twenty has years

28:32

old a habit i miss everything

28:34

purity i'm a lot of mistakes of

28:36

a lot of as dot the wasn't on purpose so

28:39

is where we would we'd ringwald twitter here

28:41

without lawyers and the things

28:43

i didn't allow purpose i'm at a lot of mistakes

28:46

but i'm not some person getting worse

28:48

and lying to people and were provide nine

28:50

percent accurate represent wrong and nine

28:52

want to get better as much as

28:54

where i met and these quakes beer where unless you

28:56

made a film that is kind

28:59

of shows what we've done is a look at

29:01

has come we've horrifying obnoxious i am

29:03

an end of it a good but on

29:05

oxygen from a pier and

29:07

as the end of the day like a did

29:09

not lot of the go on purpose mixed

29:12

action purpose am legend

29:14

as my business

29:18

the allows me as they begin by

29:20

ask you a little bit about that in some

29:22

see your intentions

29:24

the didn't have a good indication of how stilted

29:26

this q and i as any decent

29:28

interviewer might hear that opening statement

29:31

that alex made and first say are

29:33

you okay and after clearing that

29:35

up you'd probably point out that unprompted

29:38

are alex just said that they that

29:40

he didn't ever intentionally life

29:42

three times in about a minute

29:45

that kind of feels like somebody's lies intentionally

29:47

really trying to stress that they don't do

29:49

that and of your instinct is to follow

29:51

up all my i guess you just a better journalists

29:54

than i can ever imagine being also

29:56

we're not to latch onto that we're ninety

29:58

percent accurate climb but not

30:00

something they could stand to be explored like

30:02

how do you quantify that doesn't actually mean

30:04

anything or is that just an evasive catchphrase

30:07

that you used to try to dodge responsibility

30:09

for the horrible things you say and do

30:11

all the fucking time share i mean you're forgetting

30:14

six years immortal line you know me thinks

30:16

you can't possibly protest too much into

30:18

of misses me thinks of you dos santos

30:21

is it has it off is why would steer

30:24

, write all the time time , what

30:27

is mean that are you

30:29

on the synthesis so

30:31

gland gunners started into started question

30:34

there and here's where here's goes and

30:36

if you're expecting it to be like hey

30:39

let me ask you about that you say you

30:41

don't lie oh what what what

30:43

do you mean that's about it so

30:45

, for me as against i asked

30:47

me a little bit about that in some see your intentions

30:50

and and the like because i when

30:52

i remember when i watched the film it was dissociating

30:55

this early footage of you and i remember when the

30:57

internet first discovered some of the early pictures

30:59

of you from your public access days and often

31:02

i remember liberals being almost horrified that

31:04

with his cognitive dissonance that we're supposed to look

31:06

at them as a screaming spitting monster and yet

31:08

these these pictures or disturbingly handsome

31:10

on and is like very own nutrition

31:12

order waiting months or your now you

31:15

request very beginning how to kind of charisma

31:17

a natural charisma or so handsome and now

31:19

you're ugly even sat in the what happened they saw

31:21

you in so when you combine that you're so as to be so

31:23

you had when you are young as a great my should

31:25

clearly had you been somebody who

31:27

is willing to affirm rather than class and establishment

31:30

hyades could have ended up as i

31:33

i meteorologists on like good morning america

31:35

are like some anderson cooper anderson and

31:38

i'm wondering if you are aware of that

31:40

potential and purposely chose

31:43

to rejected for a different path is

31:45

kind of half an hour passed

31:47

that we're surrounded by the isolate and

31:49

it's i'll always whether it was to so

31:52

natural to your personality that your

31:54

never even considered trying to to

31:56

pursue it knocks on a mainstream acceptability

31:59

when mainstream was

31:59

the about drive hundred a day

32:04

that's were going to them that

32:07

is worse question as well alex's

32:09

three times a minute that he doesn't lie

32:11

on purpose but is the right ninety percent

32:13

of the time glenn besides the open with a question

32:15

predicated on how alex was a handsome young

32:18

man stays upstairs is just pathetic

32:20

because track this question it's

32:22

basically asking a did you make

32:24

basically conscious decision to not be as rich

32:26

and famous as your talents would make you deserving

32:29

of being because being were too invested

32:31

in questioning the power structure or

32:33

is it just me just instinctual nature

32:35

to be to rebel who questioned the power

32:37

structure so the decision to not be

32:39

super rich and famous wasn't even and decision

32:42

it's basically like are you so awesome

32:44

by choice or choice nature i mean

32:46

if you you almost went too

32:48

long for

32:49

yeah i would have gone with why is your

32:51

dick so big how did

32:53

it get so big that is the

32:55

biggest dick i've ever seen as

32:57

another reading over the earth this is embarrassing

33:00

personally because it's basically

33:02

answered in the film but also

33:04

because it kind of ignores the reality this

33:07

is how it's never tried to get a job where he'd have

33:09

a boss or advertisers that word

33:11

a cd gold salesmen and a book

33:13

about where to hide guns he wouldn't have lasted

33:16

more than a month he is talented

33:18

but he's not that talented to the point where

33:20

an employer would look past as extreme

33:23

oppositional defiant because he's

33:25

got the goods depth of

33:27

you know howard stern let's say

33:29

no no no no no this question

33:31

is predicated on false construct of

33:33

what alex could and could not have done

33:36

as a younger man yeah he was handsome

33:38

yes he was talented by it

33:40

was also alex jones that whole time

33:43

if you take his story in the documentary at all

33:45

seriously you shouldn't have to ask

33:48

this question alex talks about

33:50

how he got fired from a radio station because

33:52

he wouldn't stop talking about waco alex

33:54

took the path he did because it was the only

33:56

path available to him that allowed him

33:58

to satisfy his needs attention and

34:00

for nobody to ever be able to tell him what

34:02

to do quite something

34:05

really this q and a was never going to be

34:07

hard hitting but i didn't predict it

34:09

would open this was i mean as yeah

34:11

that was tough for here here's a good

34:14

know here if you want to do that beatles

34:16

like hey listen man you had that moment

34:18

where there were two paths become a know

34:20

rock god or work at a grocery

34:22

store you know what was it that really

34:24

turn this and i would have been like hey alex

34:27

you could have been a father of at least

34:29

ten why didn't you become that's

34:31

alec klein doesn't know and you put off in

34:33

you could have been in jail for murder why

34:36

did you become an info wars hosts say

34:38

excuse me have you ever heard

34:40

your own story about your childhood

34:43

why didn't you put it in this fucking movie i'm

34:45

to the guess like glenn's awareness of alec

34:47

starts and ends with things later in

34:49

this documentary a verb

34:51

affected everybody doesn't like him death

34:53

and then gets more money for at the out there

34:56

and and maybe maybe

34:58

of the like really broad the things

35:00

that people know like use against the iraq war

35:02

he mad mad he hates the establishment

35:04

glenn greenwald should be against him

35:07

for glenn with for the iraq

35:09

war so is his body tucker right weird

35:11

how anyway here's alex's answer

35:14

to that question of well

35:16

, a big that big gap or

35:19

whether it was to so natural

35:21

to your personality that your never even

35:23

considered trying to to pursue it

35:25

knocks on a mainstream acceptability glenn

35:28

mainstream was thinking about drown her today what

35:30

am i to say gotta

35:32

, think think brought that up no

35:35

no no seriously guys really guys my

35:38

enemy sammis lex luthor mastermind

35:41

and i we don't say that you're a moron

35:43

of that i as know as as

35:45

the study's about those and politics

35:48

and read like books by zbigniew

35:50

brzezinski and like these were scary things were

35:53

, no friends no idea no

35:55

plan and the this idea

35:58

that all on this mastermind

36:00

here is opposite american films

36:03

are they are that are you know as

36:05

and so and , a problem myself

36:07

now this is what they literally think how much

36:10

as evil mastermind and i literally

36:12

can't balance a checkbook answer to

36:14

attach to be constantly like forza secrets

36:17

where's the russians words of who's here is a

36:19

mercer is usually orders am

36:21

i am someone the news or him opinion

36:23

on something and so and i had no idea

36:25

when i was doing doing as this

36:27

was some to america and like have

36:29

a libertarian i did like republicans

36:32

and like demographic and i was is what's known

36:34

what's often as to see race

36:37

or college try to get her to have to sort

36:39

of the couple years even be three

36:42

the radio sides and was involved

36:44

with access to these so was it was basically

36:47

my mom political beliefs lot

36:49

of pro freedom my got involved

36:51

and was immediately successful than i

36:53

was like

36:54

i know i figure out when and try to be truthful

36:56

may one episode was but none

36:59

of it was with now a lazy none of it was

37:01

majority by there are to talk

37:03

about the mistakes for certain if you middle

37:05

of shouldn't be a complete discuss in without

37:07

ever forget to that is why

37:10

why wouldn't be complete disgust anyway

37:14

this isn't really an answer declines question but

37:16

glenn doesn't give a shit in fairness i

37:18

guess it's like a half answer with an answer

37:20

to a completely different question makes

37:22

them also you might notice that alex

37:24

and of that ramble by again saying that he

37:26

never meant to lie and of here

37:28

greenwald it's a conscious choice to

37:30

ignore that happening so much

37:33

a neutral observer would look at their behavior unsafe

37:36

this person really seems to be going out of his

37:38

way to say that he doesn't lie on purpose and yet

37:41

no one here has accused him of that at

37:43

all that seems like something he's being

37:45

super defensive about a maybe if

37:47

i want to have a full discussion i should

37:49

check in on that glaring dynamic that's

37:51

playing out right in front of me i

37:53

guess you could just ignore it and power thirty your

37:55

neck softball question though that certainly another option

37:58

i mean i'm so

37:59

fucking furious at glen already

38:02

you know like it's as like

38:04

this is a dude who will

38:06

go out of his way to try and destroy

38:08

your young journalists career cool

38:10

fucking sick his sycophantic bullshit

38:13

people on other people to destroy

38:15

their lives then go and fuck insights

38:17

alex you got the biggest dick in the world

38:19

how do you walk with a dick this big it's

38:22

so huge

38:23

but he won't even talk and talk to me he

38:25

won't even blocked me on twitter if you know

38:27

why because i don't have any fucking restraints

38:29

that young journalists she could lose your job of see go

38:31

the majority zippo fuckers but

38:33

instead

38:34

we're we're untethered from the

38:37

uk what are you mad at me

38:40

have anything to gain do brasil

38:42

i do think there's a really funny thing

38:45

in that you're mad that he won't block i

38:47

want this , that he

38:49

knows and he's just a coward he doesn't

38:51

even have the guts to acknowledge it was

38:53

shocked me usually doing knowledge i didn't see

38:55

this be you told me that somebody who

38:57

tweeted at him but whoever earth under

38:59

ten following on of beauty it

39:01

we block this would they said that he

39:03

said listen to ourselves yup yup

39:06

so believe me you know you know

39:08

that's a little suspicious yeah so

39:11

i'm glen out here is his next

39:13

question here and i think there's a little colonel us

39:15

open and here actually every to

39:17

talk about the mistakes for certain in a few

39:20

minutes is it wouldn't be a complete discussion

39:22

without ever forget the that as i you

39:24

know the question of your politics i i

39:26

think so interesting in this is up with frighten me watching

39:29

the film is there's

39:31

a the idea there's this idea you

39:33

know if you are somebody with white political faction

39:36

or ideology is alex jones associated they

39:38

would instantly say on the far right and

39:40

i'm awesome you a wonder what all the

39:42

for most people thought about doing it spreading

39:45

huge amounts of skepticism and down could have asked

39:47

why a view and i was gonna say

39:50

your confronting the f b i well before

39:52

trump's began spreading that kind of skepticism

39:55

intervals like you're cycling that question where how

39:57

extreme and are talking about the other say before

39:59

eleven your warning about the dangers of

40:02

exaggerating the threats of bin laden and al qaeda

40:04

in order to kind of bring it into as a sort of

40:06

authority authoritarian and following

40:09

a giant not harding said all

40:11

very associated with the last have been saying

40:13

for a long time kind of opposing these institutions

40:16

of of of authoritarianism

40:18

warning about how they exploit people's

40:21

perceptions , put the poppy population

40:23

in fear how have you seen yourself

40:25

ideologically and and politically

40:27

i'm years exactly

40:30

, as a dumb question

40:32

but there's a little bit of truth in it alex

40:34

was skeptical of all these organizations like the

40:36

f b i the cia early on but there's

40:38

also context is missing from all of this

40:40

and it's not something you're gonna get from glan

40:42

of mileage themselves and certainly not from

40:44

a spell

40:45

alex he did these groups now because of some

40:47

kind of a principled opposition things like spying

40:50

the way glad is blaming the question alex

40:52

a to these groups because of waco ruby raids

40:55

in the oklahoma city bombing he

40:57

just drove to them because after okay see

40:59

the issue of right wing militia violence was a

41:01

high priority for law enforcement sinner

41:03

put a serious whole to the momentum that

41:05

the extreme right we're seeing in terms of organizing

41:08

it wasn't in opposition to the idea of spying

41:10

or the f b i it was it alex now but

41:12

they were focused on people who are too much like

41:14

himself similarly

41:17

his opposition to over hyping the threat of been lot

41:19

and was also really just about his fears

41:21

about the government cracking down on far right militias

41:24

he didn't oppose spying on like suspected

41:26

muslim terrorists for it's own sake

41:29

he just thought it was a smokescreen to eventually

41:31

spy on christian as

41:33

as well as extremists yeah i mean they might

41:35

as a here's your better way of framing that question

41:38

alex you oppose the

41:41

f b i because they're not solely out

41:43

to get non white people how long

41:45

has that been going on for but glenwood

41:47

have no way to know any of that stuff

41:49

to view and prepare for this interview at all i

41:51

really didn't know anything except of

41:54

tired of hearing that is it it feels

41:56

it's not it's makes it worse exactly

41:58

the it's a willful ignorance of

42:00

the subject you're covering or i'm

42:03

a you do know some things and you're just pretending

42:06

not to know their rikers who be inconvenient

42:08

for the energy will be a terrible idea to know those

42:10

things it's fine to give it

42:12

up to alex that on paper a lot

42:14

of his positions about things like the an essay are

42:16

good but to pretend that are based in some kind

42:18

of a principled believe has a little bit much

42:21

taking alec seriously on this issue with

42:23

honestly kind of funny because he's the last

42:25

person i would accuse of being a serious opponent

42:28

of authoritarian leadership for

42:30

one thing he made cartoonish accusations

42:33

about how like obama was going to become a tyrant

42:35

like he was gonna dissolve the government the the could

42:37

turn the country to part of part one world calafate

42:40

that he ruled the callous eight deaths engaging

42:42

with the notion of tyranny like this indicates

42:45

this indicates of seriousness about the subject

42:47

and not somebody who use it up as their

42:49

thoughts on because the rock and there

42:51

could be a point or you could look at

42:53

how you behave with trump he was cheering

42:55

on trump's authoritarian leanings at every

42:57

turn and yelling the trump's needed to go further

43:00

he wanted trump to imprison his political

43:02

enemies take over the media militarized

43:04

the border and outlaw the democratic

43:06

party if there's a someone you're taking it

43:09

all seriously on the subject of authoritarianism

43:11

the joke is on you also

43:13

alex is politics are really simple he

43:16

the john birch society styled anti

43:18

communist reactionary who wants

43:20

to install a white christian heterosexual

43:22

dominated state

43:27

i mean it's just a but he's not going to tell you

43:29

that i'd be guys that it's like either i

43:31

just don't know go and time you don't have

43:33

a place and alex's world just in case you're wondering

43:36

what , good luck to ya no

43:38

es you want a fawn over the guy

43:40

who wants to him weird

43:43

and oh my god state not or oh

43:45

he's only going after trans people right now

43:47

i'm sure whenever he's done with that he's

43:49

gonna stop that's how

43:51

it works right what you go after lgbtq

43:54

you you stop after one of the letters

43:56

you don't go after all of them that makes

43:59

sense though the going going may

44:01

learn a hard lesson the dave rubin is

44:03

learning currently at some point yeah

44:05

i've which i don't enjoy there's no jordan

44:08

frighten that know locked up yeah awful

44:10

stretch and why yeah it's the

44:14

way alex response to this question that you

44:16

very rarely pointed out blind was basically

44:18

answering in the delivery of the away

44:21

the air because i think maybe

44:23

partially because the said it's just i

44:26

don't know the fucking even as a of there is a good how

44:28

are you seeing yourself ideologically

44:30

and and politically i'm years

44:33

a , that exactly boring starting

44:35

out like ninety five ninety six first articles

44:38

rights communist alex jones

44:40

no sense i suppose it gives

44:42

wars and surveillance such as see

44:45

much will be all right so keen on to this

44:47

real quick ninety four ninety

44:49

five alex jones is a communist the

44:52

way how old was a well first

44:54

of all a good athlete and remedies beginning his career

44:56

dried really gave a shit know and he was

44:58

opposed to bill clinton at the time yeah

45:01

he was attacking from the right he's trying to pretend

45:03

that he was call the communists because he opposed bush

45:05

is so it's not a better for as

45:07

mythology to have that in his background them

45:09

to be of right wing sit back from the start for

45:12

her death so sad and our

45:14

songs are suisham william physically

45:16

smells i was younger sounds like the constitution

45:19

and so i wasn't even be right wing or left wing

45:22

i was simply so you all from

45:24

of freedom as that's a fun thing to do eyes

45:26

as forwards everyman and sip of the spend

45:28

them the national i've never seen

45:32

eighteen years he also said i want

45:34

to fly you out here to california and

45:36

will and will wants you to ideal meal

45:39

of as to as a science we will

45:41

you know we're doing so gets her house and sub

45:43

mariner put movies hikes so you're

45:45

really a good liberal right her hips these wars

45:48

and curious george bush oh my god is

45:50

towards most and , did is here that

45:52

was pro gone are innocent as i am

45:54

so they're like oh every harvest

45:56

love with arrows have dinner and dinner saw

45:59

were talking like

45:59

anthony hopkins

46:02

eat roast beef and beans

46:04

house in malibu and i might watch this place

46:07

cuz i had no idea my private

46:09

jet landslide by the california report

46:12

young filmmaker you're exposing

46:14

the evil astonishing

46:23

i know if if if

46:25

if it's a bomb on i'm i am

46:27

, don't like what bomb bomb is continuing the

46:30

same stuff so to me i

46:32

literally just went on ecstasy below

46:34

twenty one years old and will have already have you

46:36

actually to facilitate three

46:39

to resolve tom tom mistakes

46:41

budget of replace the truth what i experienced

46:43

like hollywood and what it does

46:46

and the royals on the hollywood might have and

46:48

just just great experience

46:50

over twenty years on air of like

46:53

see all the weird underbellies

46:56

of all the stuff because i didn't come into

46:59

his from establishment into his

47:01

came out of access team in austin texas

47:03

and so because i was apparently restructures

47:06

i got to see stuff nobody else sing

47:08

the me me as to the the a similar

47:10

questions the one as allies for jews

47:12

i were the girls and answer to glance closet

47:15

whatever there's no reason to ask to ask

47:18

up to the original question because clinton

47:20

really care much about to begin with the

47:23

router to launch a bad for alex to go off on

47:25

some rambling diatribe it's eventually

47:27

going to include him saying that he doesn't lie

47:29

on purpose at some point very defensive

47:31

about that does seem like that almost like

47:33

he's about to go on trial sure

47:36

what miss out on trial here number

47:38

music the super defence feel you

47:41

don't find really interesting though like well at

47:43

alex's all these stories with these left wing folks

47:45

like martin seen mistakenly think anybody's

47:48

on the left because the hated bush but you

47:50

never really heard stories about right wingers

47:52

who invited alexander only to realize that

47:54

he isn't right wing after all sure

47:57

yeah like that the time when ann coulter was on

47:59

his own she lived them for being so far

48:01

right that he sounded like lyndon larouche but

48:03

i don't think anyone other i would talk to

48:05

alex and come away disappointed thing that

48:07

always not on our side man he's a rhino

48:10

i would alec says he's a rhino body

48:12

the

48:14

anyway glenn as another

48:16

question for alex that is

48:18

really just

48:20

the hype man shit clooney me as

48:22

to the the a similar questions the when asked

48:24

allies for jews you

48:26

know it is so striking when striking began reading about politics

48:28

in two thousand and five le mans groups

48:31

how does anthony hopkins like as rose be that

48:33

is a good question liberals heated

48:36

more than anybody george bush the

48:38

architects of the iraq war i began

48:40

writing and opposition to rendition and

48:42

the torture regime and guantanamo and due

48:44

process free imprisonment insists

48:47

are striking that i more valuable

48:49

that band who were implementing as were advocating

48:52

is are completely acceptable in fact

48:54

the last and mainstream liberal

48:56

circles liberals was media outlets and consume

48:58

media outlets that employers people

49:01

as everything i could interview all of them and i would

49:03

be applauded by liberals and yet you

49:05

to back in two thousand and four were saying

49:08

don't trust george w bush his father

49:10

was the cia director the if iraq

49:12

war is based on lies all things that

49:14

auto appeal to that sensibility

49:16

liberal you are uniquely castigated

49:19

and kind of passed out of good

49:21

company the point where you're one of the very few

49:23

people that when journalists are told they can't speak

49:25

you why is that why have you

49:28

been identified as such a threat

49:30

in a way that other people who actually have bought

49:32

other hand and wars on their legacy

49:35

aren't even remotely past

49:37

as will , an answer a question

49:39

and i have yet only learn to swim

49:41

through haneke experience

49:43

oversight over every going to

49:45

take up is concerned with himself and

49:47

his good buddy tucker who was viewed

49:49

sport or the war back of his boat of do you

49:52

think this you think interesting point although

49:54

one as alex's nothing interesting to

49:56

spare or to say on the subject still

49:58

has been some attempts to

49:59

rehabilitate the images of people like george w

50:02

bush and that's been a distasteful thing to say

50:04

a to see that said i don't

50:06

think it's been as successful as glenn is pretending

50:08

and i don't know how many fawning pieces

50:11

were seeing about like dick cheney or karl rove

50:13

these days the to to

50:15

is larger point though all of the mainstream media

50:17

outlets of trump people on their rosters of talking

50:19

heads like kellyanne conway was just

50:22

conway cbs today and she was the person

50:24

the really yeah geez the person that trump was hired

50:26

to lie to the media for him it

50:28

does suck but media outlets do features

50:31

some shitty people but there are people who

50:33

fall within fall certain spectrum of

50:35

shininess and most right thinking

50:37

people understand that alex is outside that

50:39

ram it does feel like all the networks

50:41

have networks have farm somewhere i

50:44

suspect that a giant part of alex's

50:46

you know not being allowed in is

50:48

a i think it's less about what alex believes

50:51

or would say and more about how we would act

50:54

he's already shown himself through countless appearances

50:56

to be unable to stop himself from just yelling

50:58

and self promoting instead of actually doing

51:00

an interview like with piers morgan andrew

51:03

neil in a the uk or

51:05

the time that he was on the view if i

51:07

were at t v booker i'd be pretty aware

51:09

that alex isn't going to be a guest the participates

51:11

in any discussion you might be trying to have but

51:13

he's just going to steamroll everything and yell info

51:15

wars dot com the city

51:18

guest as further evidence by his appearances

51:20

on the podcast like flagrant to

51:22

and rogan it just gets wasted

51:24

yells nonsense or the only reason you'd want

51:27

him around as if you're looking for a spectacle

51:29

most tv shows wouldn't consider the spectacle

51:31

to be worth the hassle of having alex on

51:34

but the math is different for desperate people

51:36

and charlatans so the us are here

51:38

we are yeah that explains the situation

51:40

yeah yeah adding the as

51:43

glenn's question so far are living

51:45

more than up to my standard in fact

51:47

i did not expect that day a

51:50

he would be asking alex something along

51:52

the lines of alex your view hurt

51:54

shoes are so great we are night and you

51:56

a paladin of truth tomorrow tell

51:58

me more about how you came by them vit

52:01

this question particular i think i would translate

52:03

as like why would anyone will you come on their show

52:05

is it because you're to write about things

52:08

also isn't it really awesome

52:10

the i'm not scared to interview you like all those

52:12

other media outlets i'm pretty awesome

52:14

to yeah yeah it's nice

52:17

hillary doing it's nice to have

52:19

a to of the biggest dicks people in the

52:21

world get to share a stayed together for

52:23

one moment you know it's rare to see

52:25

this happen

52:26

the years alex's answer to whatever question

52:28

that one guy on an answer a question

52:31

and and as of yet always regret going

52:33

through any experiences

52:35

with

52:37

my lot of other me undies uma

52:39

hillbillies people apart establishment

52:42

but , they're not scared of all shows they're

52:44

scared a populist movements and

52:46

the fact i was a left winger right way

52:49

the fact that i was says pro america

52:51

pro freedom of they read

52:54

me really wasn't me they just saw me

52:57

as like saw merger people i'm like

52:59

okay this this is what the american people

53:01

produced this is organic

53:03

to they wouldn't check out who i was no it was this

53:09

is this is the enemy and so it's

53:11

their hatred of the general public their

53:13

hatred of the organic express one's

53:16

it's not me it's their hatred

53:18

of of of this good dc classical

53:21

liberal america and will cease

53:23

and wants some what you eat and wants

53:25

justice enable employment obese

53:27

we want or a my when i choose me my was

53:29

would will mar for these

53:36

are some idiotic says tv when we had it's

53:38

so i'm a symbol of their insecurity

53:40

i'm not that strong their weeks

53:43

and thus the scale

53:48

though you know is is it is

53:50

in as it is interesting that the thing they hate

53:52

most people who develop influence and a

53:54

significant audience without being passive

53:57

to their structures and their influence wow

53:59

the need one for high either

54:02

hey listen to look at look at what's

54:04

happening now i'm develops

54:07

that's bullshit about that lesiba glimpse

54:09

know that either that either weird now

54:13

ha ha also

54:16

i mean it's all good well to talk about alex not

54:18

being beholden to cnn

54:20

or ah news core

54:23

but he got a million a bitcoin from somebody

54:25

who crazy this crazy guess

54:28

anti you spent most of his career hawking

54:31

gold for hawking weirdo ah so and

54:33

beholden to constantly doing

54:35

view earth is gonna fall apart so you better

54:37

by gold ads he by weirdly

54:39

in the documentary and this interviewed

54:42

said anderson doesn't come up once saw

54:44

that so crazy oh store

54:45

wow that as fuck i

54:48

the wii

54:48

we're mad

54:50

i don't matter i was

54:52

matter when i was zero two related

54:54

or my you're writing your out your anger is

54:56

pushed into the document now you are free

54:58

yes yes i'm still reliving it

55:00

for the first time are living for the first of

55:03

yes so here is in the next question

55:05

and i actually think that this is going

55:07

to best question guy or

55:09

it doesn't just shorter it doesn't go anywhere

55:12

and i might be misinterpreting it or

55:14

get it is interesting that the thing they hate

55:16

most people who develop influence and a

55:18

significant audience without being captive

55:20

to their structures in their influence madison

55:23

thing that defines what you've done

55:25

as a more than anything you came at a public access

55:27

t v which was tolerated because it's supposed to

55:29

be a joke that no one watches and

55:31

is you develop this gigantic audience

55:33

and clearly part of why is because you have

55:35

a kind of

55:37

so many charisma kind of veto

55:39

in our team is components you that the

55:41

people wanna watch and one of the things that

55:43

struck me was you know you were talking early on

55:45

and in in this funny episode

55:48

about how and you are twelve you would see these creatures

55:50

with rolls royces and gigantic houses doing

55:52

coke off hookers brass than and

55:54

whenever and are utilized and i'm

55:56

have been they as a similar kind of showmanship

55:58

they were able to get people get watch and by the

56:00

end of the film are watching you talking about

56:03

praying for president bush and

56:05

seats haneke influences in a way that

56:07

see i'm just wondering snows be honest

56:09

i became the abyss of the up a bit of

56:11

was there of would you notice that of

56:13

kind of similar know when you know today i

56:16

became when i saw but ,

56:18

a good cause that was on purpose purpose

56:21

have forty i sit on our see you know

56:23

i was like damn us are sluts that records

56:27

rub rolls royce was brilliant now

56:30

, mean i mean i was sure that thoughtlessly

56:32

but the others are several i mean among mean

56:34

lot of yards from yards preacher and

56:37

yards and a only now i'm like four years

56:39

was yours or mine whoa what about and doing

56:41

or how are you a six year olds

56:43

ago damn when i was doing like like

56:46

damn i did all that like south african

56:48

horrible person but the buses i

56:51

do it consciously this that was what

56:53

is lying for your formulas i

56:55

didn't ever do stuff on purpose so

56:57

this could actually be interpreted as a brief scathing

57:00

question which may be why alex dogs

57:02

the real meaning behind of my third of on the charisma

57:04

talking about cities the point

57:06

of the preacher's being cities the vivid that

57:09

alex or as a the he wasn't that they were preachers

57:11

a bit as they were hypocrites they

57:13

were pious as an axe to make money

57:16

and then in their realize they did coke have

57:18

sex workers on boats if

57:20

take him as it appears to be asked

57:22

glenn's question would seem to be asking about

57:24

a possible dynamic were alex has become the

57:26

same kind of hypocrites rated what the

57:28

devil on air to make money but living

57:30

a discordant lights practice i'm

57:33

not sure if that's what glenn was getting at but

57:35

that's the most generous interpretation i can come

57:37

up with so i get have been made in

57:39

his point as good as a as possible

57:41

to your best in response alex

57:43

puts on this little show it returns with to

57:45

wrestle with the idea that he's a preacher and

57:48

that he's done bad stuff in the past or

57:50

whatever great not that he is a preacher on

57:52

air and a millionaire all fair if

57:54

nothing else alex does have good instincts

57:57

were on went to distract from dangerous

57:59

points also he brought back up

58:01

that whole i don't lie on purpose think again

58:03

which is really starting to become more and more

58:05

suspicious the glenn is not calling it out

58:08

i mean that number of times

58:10

that he is essentially saying because

58:12

i didn't do bad on purpose

58:15

do not hold me accountable for doing bad

58:17

as though the only crime in the world

58:19

is first degree murder

58:22

all other crimes are legal the wanted

58:24

it's not premeditated murder year

58:26

golden baby bro

58:28

apologize sorry and

58:30

then cast another job

58:31

it's like i'm it's it's

58:33

like the reverse of the john stuart

58:35

mill out of the the only thing that

58:38

is good is it only thing that is truly good

58:40

as a good well yes and or

58:42

though the only thing as bad as a badly on the

58:45

side that is why john stuart

58:47

mill was an idiot the guy which would

58:49

agree with you and tells i use lane

58:53

anyway so this next clip they're

58:55

talking about january sixth and

58:57

alex's some stuff that i think is really

58:59

fucking stupid and is glen had

59:01

any awareness of alex's career and what

59:03

he does on air you'd be able to

59:06

recognize that he was being lied to at

59:08

all if i had it all to do

59:11

again i was just step back and said

59:13

biden just shake the ship zoo it happens

59:16

because a man i'm not a revolutionary leader in

59:18

like war i'm not trying to lead troops

59:20

i don't have some weird thing in my head like that here

59:22

except military g i joe guy fifth

59:24

of that but when you get a million people in d

59:26

c it doesn't matter even

59:29

if they're being manipulated you steal

59:31

your response voice some lot of guilt over

59:33

j or search bar because he could

59:35

a got really bad is a federal

59:37

provocateurs either way they would have the

59:40

cubes people would have actually kidnap

59:43

max health policy and put him in handcuffs

59:46

be a marshal out of a nice because that would have been

59:48

asked that for the capital that would

59:50

have been to country gone down the tubes we came

59:53

is is is january six a close

59:55

it was a died it was meant

59:57

to provocateur us to do a violent events

59:59

that the to get out of control thank god it failed

1:00:02

and so i've always been brought the edge

1:00:04

of deaths and so january

1:00:06

six to be very serious of us here but the

1:00:09

underlying causes as january

1:00:11

six with with others such bullshit like

1:00:13

it was taken as gospel fact on in

1:00:15

for wars that is biden got into office

1:00:17

the literal christian devil would take his place

1:00:19

as the head of the country aligned with

1:00:21

com i used china and he would be

1:00:24

all over for the patriots as

1:00:26

soon as wide got into office folks

1:00:28

like alex would be rounded up and sent to camps

1:00:31

as the orderly d population

1:00:33

of the planet took off now

1:00:35

in hindsight since i didn't happen it's

1:00:37

so fun for alex to say if i

1:00:40

could do it all over i'd just let biden get

1:00:42

into office and sales because it you

1:00:44

know to take responsibility for the rhetoric

1:00:46

he was using before the election would

1:00:48

just be embarrassing now and

1:00:50

glenn doesn't know where doesn't care about what

1:00:52

alex has on his show right all he knows

1:00:54

what he saw his dumped documentaries who is gonna let

1:00:56

this bullshit stand unquestioned i

1:00:59

would call that the mark of in unprepared

1:01:02

interviewer this is not

1:01:04

good when you have something like this

1:01:06

there is a very clear next follow

1:01:08

up questions yes that is okay

1:01:10

if you're you're saying the

1:01:13

if you could do this all over again you

1:01:15

would just lie biden get into office and

1:01:17

then we you know see whatever we're seeing

1:01:19

now are you lying

1:01:22

to me now or were you lying to your audience

1:01:24

about the devil ascending to the throne and

1:01:26

aligning with communist china and

1:01:28

everything being over the day biden comes

1:01:31

adolphus you like your audience

1:01:33

are lying to makes i am lying to

1:01:35

both of you right sort

1:01:39

of pointed out into their into their of alex's

1:01:41

talk about the the idea

1:01:43

that there was an underlying cause of

1:01:46

january six the matter courses the

1:01:48

election fraud story line

1:01:50

i assume glenda the follow up with likes okay

1:01:53

so you think it was if it

1:01:55

were gone wrong you know you think

1:01:57

you'd gone wrong and if it had gone right it

1:01:59

would have been back why do you think it would

1:02:01

have been bad if it had gone right

1:02:04

wouldn't you be as the fucking

1:02:06

white house press corresponded sit on

1:02:09

also didn't hear employee who was

1:02:11

hosting your show for you say the capital

1:02:13

is falling on the patriots are now interest

1:02:15

he thinks that the patriots being in charge is a good

1:02:17

thing certainly one of your employees were celebrating

1:02:20

it as it was happening seems i a

1:02:22

weird anyways i want to have an election

1:02:25

fraud about it in this case

1:02:27

where you are saying there was widespread boss did

1:02:29

you actually can dogs were you feel like is

1:02:31

kind of a meticulous a forensic analysis

1:02:34

of the voting patterns and conclude

1:02:36

that there was brought in the states sufficient to have

1:02:38

fun me a lesson or was this kind of as he so

1:02:41

like a way of saying that the

1:02:43

establishment was so against trump from the beginning

1:02:45

is illegitimate ways that i'm going to

1:02:47

kind of endorse this cause

1:02:49

enough because it's necessarily true

1:02:51

and it's the particulars but more as kind of

1:02:53

us some matic way of protesting or

1:02:55

nami i'll be honest which was

1:02:57

established visitor i'll be honest it

1:02:59

was young know it was it was based feel

1:03:02

that

1:03:03

obviously bolland more was a trump's

1:03:06

and these can we saw the weird you

1:03:08

know anomalies in like democrats blocking

1:03:11

the windows and people ,

1:03:13

feeding machines full of things and so

1:03:15

he saw some evidence in but we were expecting

1:03:17

m s and season says have

1:03:19

a foregone conclusion and we all interest

1:03:22

or dark least but it's kind of fifty fifty

1:03:24

and i was able to thousand meals or

1:03:28

or by couple of us from but

1:03:30

less sick way it's better that bags in

1:03:33

so we now get to see was established was really about

1:03:35

but was really all we

1:03:37

speculation from right away and so

1:03:39

kind of when you're a hammer everything's a male

1:03:42

i mean i think the destroying our views

1:03:44

obviously and also shows admits

1:03:47

he distorted view so there was evidence of the fraud

1:03:49

and it got covered up dot suppress but i'm

1:03:52

not gonna lie and say we didn't

1:03:54

i didn't distort my views in hindsight

1:03:57

to what was alex

1:03:58

there you know i think one the things

1:04:00

that think about oh i agree follow glenn the

1:04:03

as ours media it's function is

1:04:05

to spread disinformation they like constantly

1:04:08

in ways far worse than word with you

1:04:10

decide that exactly i have been i believe

1:04:12

because i don't want to be a liar like them on purpose

1:04:14

while so once again really driving home

1:04:16

by point that alex insists he doesn't lie

1:04:18

on purpose which scientists had make anyone

1:04:21

listening as suspicious that he feels

1:04:23

guilty about how much he lives on purpose

1:04:25

i mean it is a fuckin lot man

1:04:27

yeah he's saying that a lot too much

1:04:30

yeah also listening to this guy

1:04:32

should really be picking up on what alex hussein

1:04:35

alex is essentially saying that his entire coverage

1:04:37

of the question of election fraud have a twenty twenty

1:04:39

election was a pre determined narrative he

1:04:41

decided he'd report on before

1:04:44

the election up for anything ever happened

1:04:46

gifts alex insists there was

1:04:48

evidence of fraud but any half

1:04:50

decent interviewer might want to point out that this

1:04:52

evidence that alex's bring up like the two thousand

1:04:55

mules things so bullshit

1:04:57

and would alex is describing his confirmation

1:04:59

bias he'd made up his mind

1:05:02

and then anything then saw can be used to justify

1:05:05

the conclusion the already had in mind

1:05:07

he was already you know which is anything that affirmed

1:05:09

that was automatically considered bombshell

1:05:11

proof bombshell proof fraud because he desperately

1:05:14

needed to justify the narrative he was gonna

1:05:16

sell his audience no matter what seems

1:05:19

to fly directly in the face of the hundred

1:05:21

times alec says that he doesn't lie on purpose

1:05:23

and the only way to really square the circle

1:05:26

is to suggest that may be out of new

1:05:28

really know the difference between lying and telling the

1:05:30

truth the i mean if you're saying

1:05:32

that i've never lied on purpose you don't understand

1:05:34

what ally is ally is purposeful

1:05:37

you can't fly not on purpose

1:05:39

that is true you can be wrong you

1:05:41

can't lie unless you know the answer

1:05:44

that you are obfuscated minds ray

1:05:46

are that's not how it works

1:05:48

now the other thing that a competent

1:05:50

interviewer to tease out of this if they understood

1:05:53

what our to saying and knew anything about

1:05:55

his career is that you could take this

1:05:57

glaring

1:05:59

during a mission on alex was barred details

1:06:02

if i'd absolutely i'm going to exit just

1:06:04

say election fraud no matter what there wasn't any

1:06:06

evidence was a pre gone to glues if i

1:06:08

feel like me screaming what every second

1:06:10

made perfect sense it as and go any

1:06:13

reasonable interviewer would be like at sets

1:06:15

up at some point sprite and then what

1:06:17

you could do from there is

1:06:19

bring up how that's

1:06:21

all he does sniff when you have

1:06:24

the situation with his coverage of the

1:06:26

you've all the shooting he was

1:06:28

doing that he had a foregone

1:06:30

conclusion that he wanted to bring up

1:06:33

and so pieces of evidence that were bullshit

1:06:35

zip were unchecked on a

1:06:37

and confirmed in any way were

1:06:40

treated as gospel is they

1:06:42

upheld the narrative he wanted to tell

1:06:44

right same thing with the boston bombing

1:06:47

same thing with sandy hook same thing

1:06:49

with every single thing in his

1:06:51

career he comes

1:06:53

up with a conclusion and then the evidence

1:06:56

is stuff he's figured out out of

1:06:58

confirmation bias to justify the conclusion

1:07:01

he was always going to reach yup

1:07:03

and blend doesn't even take a step towards

1:07:05

that when it's right there

1:07:07

in front of i know i have a choice

1:07:09

i see on a sick he is astonishing

1:07:12

that a man it's it's it

1:07:14

is crazy because

1:07:16

because

1:07:17

one is trying to do a softball

1:07:19

interview

1:07:21

the alex is trying to force

1:07:23

him to do all hardball interview by

1:07:25

being so admitting to where i'm

1:07:27

glad glen and glenda

1:07:30

, the softball interview and elders opposite

1:07:32

to solve yeah yeah

1:07:34

replaces the houses are like

1:07:36

to give a budget saw this is this mix

1:07:39

it up a little this was going

1:07:43

gonna lose the audience glenn please in

1:07:45

some way challenge something

1:07:48

right breath percent alarm am

1:07:50

glad you're for week even for alex

1:07:52

that bad pay are going i

1:07:55

just eat you up to ask if i intensively

1:07:58

lied about stuff in order to over

1:07:59

there are other gabi have you wanna take

1:08:02

a swing it they'll say glenn did you

1:08:04

realize that joe rogan the better journalists

1:08:06

the new now don't take a bite of that apple

1:08:08

around that you know that do on are just

1:08:10

as a talk about how bad the other media

1:08:12

is no i'm not as bad as them the man

1:08:14

you're ready next great garage going great

1:08:18

the this this world is add a go

1:08:20

in the text not you're not willing to

1:08:23

accept bitcoin dropped dramatically

1:08:26

so it out as well four billion dollars would make

1:08:28

i have read the series guns next question

1:08:30

death coonelly when you are

1:08:33

somebody who's sending against kind of establishment

1:08:35

authority and establishment institutions you know

1:08:37

that one of things are going to do is season any

1:08:39

mistake that you may so

1:08:42

is is is in this is of any kind of trying

1:08:44

to tell us what the ball the time you're trying to be dissidents

1:08:47

which is you need to be a thousand times more careful

1:08:49

because they to my all because time and no one's gonna

1:08:51

call them out gonna it because they're on the side of

1:08:54

they're people with the more powerful megaphones do

1:08:56

you feel i one point he will have on my phone

1:08:58

agree have that has paid insufficient

1:09:01

attention says they need

1:09:03

not says hand your enemies really

1:09:05

easy and cheap weapons or them to take

1:09:07

and vastly over the had worth one hundred

1:09:09

percent lamb wilde one

1:09:11

or like that's just an amazing spin

1:09:14

amazing joined is giving our jaw

1:09:16

boy almost like something iowa

1:09:18

deserve the ball on ball t to make

1:09:20

it easier for alex day would

1:09:23

to famed grieving parents he

1:09:25

intentionally lied about election fraud in a

1:09:27

way that led to an attempted overthrow of our

1:09:29

government he's undoubtedly killed

1:09:31

vast numbers of his fans there is vaccine

1:09:33

bullshit these aren't instances

1:09:36

of alex just stop it careful enough

1:09:38

and giving his opponents easy wins

1:09:40

wins that they only me because he's

1:09:42

an anti establishment visited voice

1:09:44

that must be destroyed

1:09:46

the framing of these questions is pathetic

1:09:48

do you realize that you said

1:09:50

alex defamed grieving

1:09:53

families yeah you did not say alex

1:09:55

allegedly defamed because

1:09:57

alex is guilty of fame

1:09:59

them legal least you don't

1:10:02

even get to say he's already kind

1:10:04

of defame them or he a little defame

1:10:06

them or he made a mistake as a

1:10:09

, and as to

1:10:11

that yeah zero glenn's question

1:10:14

about sandy hook to her let's hear how great

1:10:16

an insightful this fucking questions gonna fucking

1:10:18

be like down for this gratitude color

1:10:21

so you know i met him before as i want to

1:10:23

ask you what a bit about sandy hook i know the expectation

1:10:26

is i'm supposed to come here at vassar over the head about

1:10:28

and o'hare on her i know i have no interest in during

1:10:30

i don't give a shit what the expectations are i would bore

1:10:32

me if i tried you talked about

1:10:34

it extensively are for people who are interested

1:10:37

in a you been deposed about as you talk

1:10:39

for hours about it people interested in the particulars

1:10:41

could go watch that if they want enough of a jump through hoops

1:10:43

in order like a peaceable anger that i'm here

1:10:46

i do that one ask you about a question and and actually

1:10:48

interested in myself

1:10:50

you you would have just

1:10:52

you've just said that that you

1:10:55

made mistakes obviously one of those is is set

1:10:57

of us any help we watched the film com very

1:10:59

clean about i said he made statements

1:11:01

that turned out to be untrue you've already spends

1:11:04

a lot of kind of reflexive time it's like

1:11:06

the soulful alex jones we gotta see in the last

1:11:08

part of the the film's oh

1:11:10

what is it the you saying cause

1:11:13

, to do that i mean you you referred

1:11:15

some things i you know and i just i identify

1:11:18

with that myself that when you know people who

1:11:20

lie for a living are telling

1:11:22

you that you're that liar when people who are people

1:11:24

who job it is to spread disinformation or teasing

1:11:27

you doing that kind of wanted to dig in a little bed

1:11:29

and and not given his the people

1:11:31

who you know are criticizing

1:11:33

you in good faith of what is it about

1:11:35

and of how social media works about how

1:11:38

kind of groups function as

1:11:40

he thought about some of the psychological

1:11:42

cultural dynamic says that led uday

1:11:45

to make some of those mistakes consensual or

1:11:47

sure sick of this like of thousand page

1:11:49

book so blended essentially

1:11:52

starting this question of by apologizing

1:11:54

for asking it asking thing that everyone expects

1:11:56

him to ask about sandy hook it's

1:11:58

almost like almost medical

1:11:59

the nation the glenn is having with himself

1:12:02

about how aggrieved he is about how people

1:12:04

view him for agreeing to do this documentary

1:12:07

accu an ace it's a legitimately and same

1:12:09

yeah this is nut bag or a of the highest

1:12:11

caliber yeah but then this question is trash

1:12:14

first off glenn says that if people wanna

1:12:16

know the particulars they can watch alex talk

1:12:18

about sandy hook they can watch the depositions

1:12:20

etc their full good and well

1:12:22

but i'm fairly certain that glenn hasn't done any

1:12:24

of that himself he's not interested

1:12:26

in the reality of what alex did about sandy

1:12:29

hook like he just assumes based on

1:12:31

what this shallow as documentary is presented

1:12:33

that alex got some things wrong and then he apologized

1:12:36

for it now everyone's just using these errors against

1:12:38

him because he's a dissenting voice but needed

1:12:40

to be destroyed because he supported

1:12:42

trump the foundation of this bad

1:12:45

question and to make the question worse

1:12:47

glenn builds an excuse into

1:12:49

the question as he's asking it steals

1:12:52

it's a media was so unfairly mean

1:12:54

to you that you had to defame grieving

1:12:56

parents it totally makes sense

1:12:58

that you'd say the people's dead kids weren't real

1:13:00

because the media so bad and sometimes

1:13:02

you just get too caught up in your noble fight against

1:13:05

them right oh god i

1:13:07

mean this is this

1:13:09

is fucked up thing

1:13:12

to i'm very

1:13:14

struggling i'm struggling with this

1:13:16

what you abuse i started

1:13:18

i started making all kinds of weird movements say

1:13:20

that this stuck to it ubuntu breathing

1:13:23

honestly i see have i have

1:13:26

your assess your pets

1:13:28

is why by intense extreme

1:13:30

theory sweaters going crazy

1:13:32

right mouth is mouth is good though

1:13:36

oh years alex's answer yes to

1:13:38

that question let's hear this it

1:13:40

goes about as you'd expect i don't care

1:13:42

about the sandy hook families alex please

1:13:45

continue to cause problems for them

1:13:47

in front of me right now or alex

1:13:49

is an interesting take on it that

1:13:52

i could won't surprise anybody who listens are showdown

1:13:55

you're sick of this like of thousand page

1:13:58

book and sandy hook them i live

1:14:00

the corner page and

1:14:02

and not pulling down this is the daughter of

1:14:04

us have a slight they are you one one of the what i'm gonna

1:14:06

i used to own a home overweight

1:14:09

so with just have to call me

1:14:11

call me them for socialise with like ten

1:14:13

years yells at almost all false for four

1:14:15

hours that's sort of gore's old policy

1:14:17

we all believe is this struggle a sort of

1:14:19

this saga that's the gonna take pieces

1:14:22

of that out of context

1:14:24

so here's where describe it fast for

1:14:26

just a small i do a sunday show

1:14:29

and i was sorry daughter was there

1:14:31

was a mighty shall i forget but they say

1:14:34

he's at two thirty in the morning and guys

1:14:36

stop we saw him a put a new servers and

1:14:38

says murders and rapes and already been super

1:14:40

sandy hook and i set out here like it serves

1:14:43

just as a some real and

1:14:45

, it wasn't real or or or

1:14:47

arm that that nascar rider

1:14:49

driver baba whatever bubble wallace

1:14:51

there used to say in my things like

1:14:54

let's just know that's bs so lot of

1:14:56

as is i'm a talk show us some go

1:14:58

on journalistic and i have the witnesses

1:15:00

or have a roof and you know does

1:15:03

he small school class but i still

1:15:05

went on air

1:15:07

and i said the day after it happened as it just

1:15:09

the smallest photographs there's not do

1:15:11

that twenty three below zero running

1:15:13

around at to during the morning stopping

1:15:16

police on black people it's fast it's

1:15:18

i'm a lot of so it's you know what

1:15:20

that black people do when i started to

1:15:23

die on me like but rather

1:15:25

a perfect world that are you going on so

1:15:27

so to me to sit on my mother your mouth with

1:15:30

the internet says imply anything as told

1:15:32

him or to save lives you so much semitic

1:15:34

to take you baltics i didn't say they

1:15:36

want you all these has safely said

1:15:38

everything we've been told to why we don't

1:15:40

know what up the

1:15:42

one on lies and incompetence

1:15:45

of us seventy seven understand how the police

1:15:47

or buttons hand sanitizers arms

1:15:49

when i'm sorry long answer of

1:15:51

seawater was seawater rod what the question

1:15:54

was like guy he did say targeted

1:15:56

by you've all day it's is that no one really

1:15:58

remembers and do you gifts pretend

1:16:00

he didn't yes so even with all the softball

1:16:02

features that are built into this question and

1:16:04

with glenn doing everything he can to make

1:16:06

alec seem justified in heroic alex

1:16:09

can't handle answering this question

1:16:11

directly with are getting lost in his talking

1:16:13

points about everything is fake also

1:16:15

it might be a good idea we're

1:16:18

going to ask a follow up about how it suspicious

1:16:20

that the only two examples that alex can come

1:16:22

up with from modern history of times he's

1:16:24

called things fake and he feels confident about still

1:16:27

saying that are times when he denied an alleged

1:16:29

hate crime with small it

1:16:31

fair enough alex was right on there

1:16:33

but he was right for the wrong reasons with

1:16:36

baba wallace alex doesn't even understand

1:16:38

the basic fact that situation and i would

1:16:40

dare to say that essentially no one in that

1:16:42

audience even remembers that case totally

1:16:44

this is pretty grim stuff and if i were glenn

1:16:47

and i had already busy by the time where

1:16:49

i would realize that i'm interviewing a deceitful

1:16:51

idiot and , not even keeping

1:16:53

track of what christian youth are answering

1:16:56

know i mean i i've either either

1:16:58

glenn is like playing

1:17:01

a second cartoon in

1:17:03

his head while alex talks and insisted

1:17:05

i mean yeah i'd have to because there's no

1:17:07

if you are it legitimately listening to this

1:17:09

human beings beats if you the next words

1:17:11

you say are the ones langley green and said

1:17:13

the whole time for me or an insane person as

1:17:16

it the way that it's just like go

1:17:18

at question answer

1:17:21

ah while next question of

1:17:23

not even that not even that conception of response

1:17:25

that acknowledges the answer not

1:17:28

at glen almost not know glenn is

1:17:30

asking a question answering the question

1:17:32

answering way alec should answer it and

1:17:34

then allowing alex to say alex to of stuff

1:17:36

and then pretending that alex didn't say anything

1:17:41

the frustrating experience for me it's not

1:17:43

a pleasant , glenn

1:17:46

refocusing the quest and react and was

1:17:48

right alex another by the pentagon

1:17:50

or that we're here does

1:17:53

does america hadn't do a good job blocks from animal

1:17:55

or it won't answer was

1:17:58

, was none of it

1:17:59

what do you think lead you into

1:18:02

these kind of errors the human is it

1:18:05

going with greg question if it was just be

1:18:07

an airport five hours a day you're bored cavalier

1:18:10

so you you're not putting a journalist filter

1:18:12

on tags when i wrote an article i would do that

1:18:14

are make a film i was a good a release together

1:18:16

those are very articulate oh my god where know you

1:18:18

wouldn't for forty years you know they're pretty accurate

1:18:20

but they weren't products have a we're not reagan

1:18:23

budget smoked cigarettes and likes

1:18:25

you know do on a paralyzed for

1:18:29

, as lance your sued for

1:18:31

oh god so so where

1:18:34

, where where where cylinder excuses you were doing

1:18:36

was wrong

1:18:41

all the car but i was drawn

1:18:43

what ma'am i was use free associated

1:18:46

as drunk as shit on air it's arabia

1:18:48

i said that these kids didn't that are i'd

1:18:50

move okay so this motorcyclist

1:18:52

is now part of that tree over there but

1:18:54

in my defense i was drunk i

1:18:56

love i love the way that alex

1:18:59

will be on air in a be like as the

1:19:01

twenty hours a day whole lot he does so

1:19:03

how do i eat three that asleep

1:19:05

the global if i know what

1:19:07

their plans backwards and forwards about

1:19:09

that me to when i'm not working right image are

1:19:12

being looked after a plane absurd

1:19:14

oh you're on a splinter old are

1:19:18

, lot to

1:19:21

do both a senate ah is why

1:19:23

doesn't the why don't people understand

1:19:25

that the defense is excellent and unimpeachable

1:19:28

defense is because we have

1:19:30

to fill time as it's okay

1:19:33

for us to defame parents

1:19:35

and make money wells are going to make an omelet

1:19:37

sometimes you get outside l am

1:19:40

parents as happy that i was out i unreal

1:19:43

unreal the so

1:19:46

alex complains about this trial

1:19:48

the olive eu or whatever

1:19:51

morgan i'm probably boycott trial

1:19:53

or something because that's not a trial

1:19:55

where does that was a guy that caught again

1:19:58

with twenty dead bodies

1:19:59

it makes months i could get up there like mr

1:20:02

jones we have their bodies and weights we

1:20:04

have a major most was i'm still insecure

1:20:06

honor a judge has never said you

1:20:08

can't see her as

1:20:10

that is in a court order

1:20:12

starting next wednesday that

1:20:14

i cannot say i'm innocent so i'm sorry

1:20:17

, myself i'm like whoa

1:20:19

this is the end of the country and

1:20:21

so whatever things i did weren't

1:20:23

on purpose and and

1:20:26

, points of one hundred questions

1:20:28

really big questions know i i mean i think you know

1:20:31

it's interesting and a i've identified this

1:20:33

and with myself and they think yeah no shit

1:20:35

you i don't know fucking

1:20:37

shit you fucking coward pretty remarkable

1:20:40

to allow alex to say these

1:20:42

kinds of things about his his case

1:20:44

and like not ask clarifying questions

1:20:46

like oh why can't you see or is it you

1:20:48

it because that's not that's relevant question

1:20:51

of the faith that we're in this case

1:20:53

he's making it seem like a it's

1:20:55

a case to determine his ill a his

1:20:57

innocence or guilt totally i'm and

1:20:59

it's not no and bullshit

1:21:02

listen listen how

1:21:05

you know the glenn greenwald knows full well

1:21:07

what he's doing yeah okay because

1:21:10

if you're going to save that out

1:21:12

loud to what is supposedly a journalist

1:21:16

they have to then ask well

1:21:19

if you are guilty before this happened

1:21:21

why

1:21:23

why are you not allowed to say you're innocent

1:21:25

tell me why explains the judge

1:21:27

has risen what you're saying is true

1:21:29

and the entire justice this earth as it

1:21:31

had modem words this is the biggest

1:21:33

news in the world that glenn greenwald

1:21:36

is the first person to discover that alex

1:21:38

jones that is free rides

1:21:40

his first amendment rights zip every

1:21:42

that isn't take it away from him in this

1:21:44

is a constitutional my you know that the person

1:21:47

he's talking to is full of shit of he

1:21:49

just move on yep affected exactly

1:21:51

is it a bit embarrassing guess that was

1:21:54

true

1:21:55

the like i mean honestly if alex

1:21:57

truly on his first try

1:21:59

the go to trial for this crime would

1:22:03

instantly this allowed from saying

1:22:05

he's innocent you and i would be

1:22:07

talking about at the other they'll be a problem we

1:22:09

would be theory as the i'm not good to at

1:22:11

least have a trial a reason we

1:22:13

didn't have a trial says if

1:22:16

i always had cooperated with the discovery process

1:22:18

and everything and it had gotten to the point where it was

1:22:20

going to trial are actually on

1:22:23

the merits nephew original question

1:22:25

totally and he was not allowed

1:22:27

to say use him as him as

1:22:29

would that would be like that necropolis that's

1:22:31

unacceptable and it never would happen

1:22:33

though i'm you know

1:22:36

identifies thou acts like he said there the

1:22:38

and into here's here's a little

1:22:40

more aware when he's broke

1:22:42

the and i've i've identified with existing

1:22:44

with myself as i think we start off as kind of

1:22:46

the south side you start off as like on access

1:22:48

t v start growing a little bit it influence

1:22:50

grown little bit in influence and suddenly you

1:22:52

you become , think

1:22:55

one of the most influential people

1:22:57

in the country with one of the largest audience is it's

1:22:59

hard i think sometimes to remind yourself i'm

1:23:01

not that guy on access tv and often

1:23:03

anymore because it was not that long ago when

1:23:05

you aren't getting so much scrutiny and and suddenly

1:23:07

you're subjected to more scrutiny that anybody

1:23:10

and i think it's hard to tie in

1:23:12

you know kind of adults with that because it's kind of a

1:23:14

slow an incremental that's why you're right right right

1:23:16

girl that's exactly what i'm a smoker because

1:23:20

of those they know but i can't finish the we go back

1:23:22

immediately go back to years five back

1:23:24

you're like

1:23:25

lander bottle a modular de jesus

1:23:28

i said that you know i'm in i'm going to be

1:23:30

honest about among a lot of people you know

1:23:32

the so it is it's yeah exactly so for

1:23:34

me as it is today you know this is a lot of work and

1:23:36

on the internet censorship here's

1:23:39

my about on alcoholism girl

1:23:41

the fuck up like up like think that

1:23:43

it's a gradual process to adjust to rising

1:23:45

levels of notoriety and the as

1:23:47

your influence rises you have a greater responsibility

1:23:50

with your messaging it's also the

1:23:52

case that you're responsible for understanding

1:23:54

that in to not understand it is

1:23:56

you neglecting your responsibility it

1:23:59

isn't any that double excuse to say that alex

1:24:01

jones and twenty thirteen or onward wasn't

1:24:03

aware of his return his responsibility

1:24:06

the wasn't some guy on public access he

1:24:09

had multiple employees and reporters

1:24:11

working under him he would brag on air

1:24:13

all the time but how many viewers he got on

1:24:15

the website if he didn't understand

1:24:17

what responsibility he had to the audience

1:24:19

about delivering information that was

1:24:21

a conscious choice but he was making to ignore

1:24:23

that responsibilities because it would make

1:24:25

his job harder and less fought for example

1:24:28

he wouldn't be able drink that bottle of vodka get

1:24:30

on air make up a bunch of shit that gets people hurt

1:24:32

em i do it again the next day you

1:24:34

would know that he was responsible to not do

1:24:36

that rights what a load of shit and

1:24:38

to hear glenda lap this up and not ask

1:24:40

any follow up questions through really disappointing

1:24:43

but honestly it makes total sense he

1:24:45

needs access to alex in order to interview

1:24:48

alex and if he doesn't do exactly

1:24:50

what he is doing any be treat out

1:24:52

with any critical focus he knows that

1:24:54

he's gonna lose that access conversely

1:24:57

i think by probably fully understands

1:24:59

that the most likely result

1:25:01

of pushing back on alex at all

1:25:03

is that this interview is going to become a fight it's

1:25:06

happened did pretty much all of alex's

1:25:08

other high profile interviews and that's

1:25:10

not what one wants this is supposed

1:25:12

to be a promotional event for this image rehabilitating

1:25:15

documentary so it would be counterproductive

1:25:18

for the end result of this q and a to be everyone

1:25:20

walking away thinking yeah maybe can't

1:25:22

really interview alex maybe there's reason

1:25:24

he doesn't get many invitations because he's an asshole

1:25:26

need to stand up and fights yes it's

1:25:28

essential to glenn and alex li

1:25:31

moyers grist for alex to be treated

1:25:33

seriously and not like a cartoon and

1:25:35

in order for that to be able to happen you

1:25:37

need to treat him with kid gloves and it's

1:25:39

pathetic i mean it's not even

1:25:43

which is a cartoon sergius acting

1:25:45

like he's not it is gas lighting

1:25:47

the highest order for you to

1:25:49

talk to what is the words

1:25:51

coming out of his mouth to respond with what

1:25:53

glenn his sayings is gaslight

1:25:55

can you imagine what kind

1:25:57

of restraint you would need to employ

1:26:00

do not ask a follow up question of alec

1:26:02

said i was drunk i drank

1:26:04

a bottle of vodka when i defamed the

1:26:06

family using a maze or do you

1:26:09

have any people die that they loved

1:26:11

on sandy hook it met so little

1:26:13

to me that i was just drunk on air it as

1:26:15

assists a to throw it away why

1:26:17

are you mad at me i made a mistake when i was drunk

1:26:20

that is argument that's what he's allowed

1:26:22

to say to go let's fucking greenwald

1:26:25

no amount of fucking propaganda

1:26:27

movies other how had great hitler

1:26:29

is no curiosity on glad are

1:26:31

non non nope soda way

1:26:33

they've got a journalist and a great writer though the abbey

1:26:35

you know he's not good at what booking boom

1:26:37

because apparently they had trouble finding a vendor know

1:26:40

you know what happens when i got picked up the a four

1:26:42

day i was told that there was difficulty

1:26:44

for a while getting a venue here in austin

1:26:47

for to do this of assets when they found

1:26:49

out that , you are involved

1:26:52

as , you know on second thought were not really sit

1:26:54

in in your money and i

1:26:56

the i thought about of for a minute in a professional

1:26:58

tell ya this of course that's the case

1:27:01

and then i realize

1:27:03

shouldn't be so comforting

1:27:05

like normally hear that should be chilling in

1:27:07

a loving i should be wouldn't mean we're in the

1:27:09

united states why is

1:27:11

it difficult to get of then used to show a film

1:27:14

about somebody who has a

1:27:16

lot and we've been so desert heading to

1:27:18

comfortable

1:27:19

yeah i mean i think there's worked with there's a kind

1:27:21

of person that has emerged

1:27:23

that we've been trained for so long to things takes place

1:27:26

in other places that were we have a very

1:27:28

hard time recognizing that were actually

1:27:30

subsets of our love over person here

1:27:33

have you had problems with with the

1:27:35

film like this film that a god distribution

1:27:37

in and other by kind

1:27:40

of publicity for that you didn't have with the first film

1:27:42

have you noticed greater difficulty was difficulty was

1:27:44

shit loads by wasn't a question

1:27:46

for our toes for moyer he of i'm

1:27:48

but like okay

1:27:51

who cares like a burger

1:27:53

base which trying to say cancel culture without saying

1:27:55

care for hockey and as a tireless

1:27:58

advocate for free speech as

1:28:00

someone who demands that everyone

1:28:02

be given the choice is to do what they

1:28:04

desire when of then you

1:28:07

refuse his moneys based

1:28:09

on some sort of political opinion

1:28:11

how dare they slow dare

1:28:13

they stand up for that not

1:28:15

a first amendment rights they have done and

1:28:18

i mean giving whatever i want

1:28:20

does he think that like if you paid

1:28:22

for it of eaters would be forced to let you scream

1:28:24

song of the salford the triumph of

1:28:26

the will close why

1:28:29

well because they didn't let him do a scan

1:28:31

for call time away me baby is what he said

1:28:34

also isn't free association like one of the main

1:28:36

pillars of alex's ideology this

1:28:38

question and alex's reaction to

1:28:40

it in essence reveal that alex's libertarian

1:28:43

leanings at those bedrock ideas

1:28:45

or says lip service he

1:28:47

fully supports the right of a business to not

1:28:49

serve someone because they're black or because

1:28:51

they're gay we have you'll cry bloody murder

1:28:53

of a beater doesn't want to air is stupid documentary

1:28:56

also again this question is

1:28:58

basically just being alex or

1:29:00

alex up to complain about however

1:29:02

once been so mean to them because they were brave

1:29:04

enough to make this film as that jordan

1:29:07

is good journalism having to tell you this right

1:29:09

now i'm going to tell you this right now people

1:29:12

have not been anywhere near mean enough

1:29:14

to that yeah i'm doing my best

1:29:16

and i'm not being miata ryan i'm

1:29:19

worth fighting so hard to

1:29:21

be mean to these people and it's nato know what

1:29:23

mimi's man it's not mean

1:29:25

this born out of bad faith

1:29:27

or or ill will or

1:29:30

some kind of a hostility towards them with

1:29:32

it's righteous fury well it's a seats

1:29:34

at this is just it's a reaction

1:29:36

to the thing that they made or didn't exactly

1:29:39

and then on the merits they should

1:29:41

be treated way harsher based

1:29:43

on how bad the those if they're doing disgusting

1:29:46

so anyway moyer comes in to

1:29:48

answer this question about finding of

1:29:50

and you have you had problems

1:29:52

with with the film like this film getting

1:29:55

distribution and and other by

1:29:58

kind of publicity for that you didn't have with first

1:30:00

film have you noticed greater difficulty was

1:30:02

a bear shit loads of class

1:30:05

a but also we

1:30:07

read as he leaves after what

1:30:10

happened with our last film and we

1:30:12

took matters in one thousand things

1:30:15

, play nice hey i'm

1:30:18

i'm we see now we

1:30:21

started basically talking

1:30:23

to people outside of hollywood and

1:30:26

i'm , only now

1:30:28

the free agent an athlete nice but

1:30:30

have you are you on this easy for sure and

1:30:33

there are people that are interested in seeing authentic

1:30:35

content on you know

1:30:37

and one n b c and millions can

1:30:39

vouch for that hill

1:30:41

so play nice is the company that

1:30:43

distributed the film and it's run by that

1:30:45

guy who used to be in charge of sin a family

1:30:47

until he got forced out because of ramp it's

1:30:49

sexual harassment complaints against him and then

1:30:51

the theater run out of business incidentally

1:30:54

play nice was hounded partially usa investment

1:30:56

from peter teal i'm sure

1:30:58

that's a totally benign thing and not at all

1:31:00

suspicious you know it's crazy alex his next

1:31:02

film is about how he's not guilty

1:31:04

of any of those sexual assaults that he committed

1:31:07

to know why he was drunk stands

1:31:10

also i'm not sure how much stock i put into

1:31:12

amanda billie as vouching for moyers

1:31:14

free agency considering that million produced

1:31:17

and directed the plot against the president

1:31:19

the trump propaganda films that to

1:31:21

of the producers of that film or producers of alex's

1:31:24

of war and beholden it was smart

1:31:26

of millions to shorten the title of

1:31:28

that movie from the title of a book

1:31:30

that it's based on which is quote the plot

1:31:32

against the president be true story of how congressmen

1:31:35

devin nunes has uncovered the biggest political

1:31:37

scandal of us history step

1:31:40

title probably wouldn't have aged quite as well as

1:31:42

shortened version could have been it could

1:31:44

really hurt that really hurt later on

1:31:47

the , the the plot against for president

1:31:49

the true story of how congress mcdevitt nunez

1:31:51

tried to sue a twitter account the

1:31:53

capital has fallen and that's and good thing of

1:31:56

note with we hadn't of el bulli so

1:31:58

years i what is i sense leave the last

1:32:00

question of of

1:32:03

this interview or you mean immersing to be

1:32:05

somebody from the very beginning

1:32:07

you know were saying

1:32:09

, that in your community in in in your politics

1:32:12

and and in the media were there love

1:32:14

that were going eg cause you to be passed

1:32:16

side as a crazy person or is

1:32:18

it the spear sit there is going back to that a nice

1:32:20

with waco and and and and

1:32:23

the up the i know sorts of things that

1:32:25

happened why that happened you end up on this path

1:32:27

size cause you to is constantly

1:32:30

be so skeptical of what you're told by us

1:32:32

authorities

1:32:33

you know my a model were william

1:32:35

bars am and was well

1:32:38

as well as helicopter pilot vietnam and then

1:32:40

he worked in iran contra and

1:32:42

, wouldn't tell me all the cigarettes not but he

1:32:45

he said rob was like a teenager teenager

1:32:47

was like i like rush limbaugh it it goes the rump logos are

1:32:49

controlled democrats controlled and

1:32:51

it's all it was down there visiting for two weeks is antonio

1:32:54

he just he just let me take you back on the back porch

1:32:57

unless i'm you know your sandwich talking about us

1:32:59

at least he told me about a lot of stuff and

1:33:01

saw in vietnam and how

1:33:04

he did these things he was told to do and

1:33:06

then he got worse and worse and worse

1:33:08

the moment he said no and it was narcotics

1:33:10

trafficking in vietnam and then it was everything

1:33:13

you know the iran contra it

1:33:15

may met a point where they

1:33:17

were they were kids out of orphanages

1:33:20

you know where they were going and he said at that point he

1:33:22

was so he told me about all that

1:33:24

and then i had other family i

1:33:27

had there were involved the black operations back

1:33:29

when it was all human intelligence and like the rush

1:33:31

attraction here and there actually and wars so

1:33:34

my dad's cousin was involved in a bunch

1:33:36

of stuff it's i grew up kind of like central

1:33:38

dinner table i hear people talking about this stuff

1:33:41

and so i kinda knew what was going on

1:33:44

what other people didn't i was growing up around

1:33:46

a and so i kind of heard that

1:33:48

the my dad was heavily involved in

1:33:50

of geopolitics and research and always books

1:33:52

real mouse is my kind of grew up around

1:33:54

that and these what pro america

1:33:57

people to they were sam governments bad comedy

1:33:59

lot of as

1:33:59

the

1:34:01

there's a bad group taken over yet have

1:34:03

they want someone me this was the of us a bumper

1:34:05

sticker of you want your children to listen whisper they

1:34:08

weren't telling me the stuff it's gonna

1:34:10

be hard around the corner squiggly says that we're

1:34:12

talking about and so that

1:34:14

that's why had a leg up on it all was

1:34:16

because of of up much about how much stuff

1:34:19

well i wonder if glenwood ask

1:34:21

a follow up if alex was clear about

1:34:23

what he's talking about and it's all the john

1:34:25

birch society shit yeah like i

1:34:27

wonder if glenwood debase himself

1:34:29

enough to be like yeah the gps they were onto something

1:34:31

right yeah mayonnaise atlanta and

1:34:33

i that one i get all of my greatest wisdom

1:34:36

from bumper stickers into a

1:34:38

my parents didn't tell me a lot about the john

1:34:40

birch society they just told me that a black

1:34:42

people were part of a communist plot to take over

1:34:45

america and that we need to fight against the russians

1:34:47

as well as civil rights with everything we never got

1:34:49

they didn't tell me that they just yelled about it to their friends

1:34:51

all the time and had to root a house

1:34:53

a full of books about the topic yeah

1:34:56

picture book because the only things i could read

1:34:58

exactly yeah yeah also

1:35:00

this question line of after his

1:35:02

frame dot a lie like

1:35:04

easily attending

1:35:07

that what alex did was bold like his

1:35:09

shit was an unpopular in the community he was

1:35:11

in and the politics that he had a

1:35:13

conspiracy theory eighty government militia

1:35:16

anti communist world everything

1:35:18

alex hussein was popular and

1:35:20

basically be standard doctrine it

1:35:22

was hindering yes glenn's acting

1:35:24

like alex at a job at cnn

1:35:26

hosting a nightly show with any did what he did

1:35:29

like he took a brave stand it wasn't

1:35:31

brave to be a conspiracy theorist in

1:35:33

a community of conspiracy theorists

1:35:36

maybe it would be if you are expected to not be

1:35:38

unsafe but i was never the expectation

1:35:40

for alex he was an insane world

1:35:43

the person they're really talking about here is

1:35:45

david is that guy sachsen

1:35:47

is wrong about everything but what he did

1:35:49

took a lotta nerve he was already

1:35:52

a big mainstream celebrity any essentially

1:35:54

through that all the way to go down a crazy

1:35:56

conspiracy path alex was

1:35:58

born on that path and follow the long doing

1:36:00

the things that got him positive reinforcement

1:36:03

intel weird or here until

1:36:05

he wound up saying the david i was right

1:36:07

all along right the turret and a bunch of old

1:36:09

heard of the punch bowl is a delicious

1:36:11

turret but like doubt that they're

1:36:13

pretending that alex did that like

1:36:16

david i went on t v and said that like

1:36:18

use jesus just

1:36:20

so mad i'm tired of people

1:36:22

being allowed to gaslight me yeah

1:36:25

this bad it's pretty robust be

1:36:27

like hey man i think that mcdonalds

1:36:29

nuggets are good i'm buying your gas

1:36:32

lighting me but that's fine you know a little

1:36:34

nuggets are friday i'm sick of fast food

1:36:36

with are fine he yes exactly

1:36:38

so a greenwald exactly

1:36:41

starts talking about like what life would be would you'd

1:36:43

made a different choice sure and bike down for this

1:36:45

because yeah there's there's yeah slip

1:36:47

of the tongue slip want i make sure you catch

1:36:50

the i will die before i came here was thinking about

1:36:52

what where i would be instead of here if

1:36:54

i had made different choices to pursue

1:36:57

the kind of mainstream accountability i have the

1:36:59

ability that i was interested in in

1:37:01

wonder why you have rejected that's

1:37:04

been in for their for two paths

1:37:07

there were accountability unacceptability

1:37:09

that is that really good point accountability

1:37:11

is really what he is rejecting like

1:37:13

you want to pretend bigger a rebel shunning

1:37:15

acceptability birth acceptability farce just

1:37:18

want to be held accountable for the things you do and

1:37:20

alex is basically the avatar that see

1:37:22

i have lost so much accessibility

1:37:24

with my one point eight million followers

1:37:26

know what i have these accountability

1:37:29

with my ability to harass people

1:37:31

with less of an audience that audience do and receive

1:37:33

no consequences for yeah whoops

1:37:36

oh no fun slip of the tongue

1:37:38

yes so the a year ago this is the last

1:37:40

have club we have this is to sort of a wrap

1:37:42

up and skill after

1:37:45

this there's not really anything just one saying