0:00

Damn.

0:16

And Jordan Pines shredded. Acknowledge

0:19

party dot com. It's time to break. I

0:21

have great respect, but now knowledge, like,

0:24

knowledge be right. I'm sick of them posing

0:26

as if they're the good guys. Chang me are

0:28

the bad debts. Your knowledge will find and

0:30

enjoy the knowledge fight. Need

0:36

money. Handy

0:39

and panty. Handy and panty

0:42

or chop Andy and Tandy and Tandy

0:44

and Tandy.

0:46

You sound great. Andy and Tandy and Tandy shortly

0:48

here. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a assistant

0:50

colleague with you today, and I love your

0:53

knowledge fight. No. No. No.

0:55

No. No. No. No. No.

0:57

No. No.

0:58

No. No. No. No.

1:00

This fake time. Damn. I'm joined. Workable dudes

1:03

like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and

1:05

talk a little bit about Alex

1:06

Oh, indeed we are Dan.

1:09

Not Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. Wait

1:10

question for you, buddy. What's up? What's your bright

1:13

spot? My bright spot today, Jordan.

1:15

I feel like maybe talk a little bit about

1:17

the goings on at the library. Okay.

1:20

That's that's being built.

1:22

I'm still

1:22

being burnt down, library Alexandria,

1:24

I assume is the one you're talking about. No. No.

1:26

No. Oh. A modern day

1:28

-- Oh. -- weird

1:31

anti communism. Live buries

1:33

that will be burned down eventually. Yeah. Well, yeah.

1:36

Absolutely.

1:37

No. I I've I've gotten a

1:39

number of issues of the American opinion

1:41

and would have you

1:42

John Burch that collection is coming together.

1:44

Indeed. I know what have you. And I started

1:46

to think about, like, I wanna I wanna start

1:48

with a little bit of specialization. Because,

1:51

you know, otherwise, it was gonna be randomly

1:53

trying to find things and -- Sure. -- that makes

1:56

the hunt a little bit more more challenging.

1:58

Right. You don't have a real target. And so I

2:00

decided that work I'm gonna begin by trying

2:02

to compile as much as a can of

2:05

Rovilo p Oliver --

2:06

Mhmm. -- works. And

2:08

I found some very terrible things.

2:10

So

2:10

Oh, god. Oh, and surprising.

2:13

He's written some real terrible very

2:16

very enthusiastic stuff. Yeah.

2:18

And and and the reason I chose

2:20

to go in this direction, is

2:22

partially because I believe that a lot of his

2:24

ideas about the west and

2:27

the western man in Christendom and those

2:29

sorts of things are very relevant to the right wing.

2:32

As it exists now. And I think a lot of people

2:34

don't have that thread to pull and maybe exploring

2:37

that a little bit could be helpful. True. But

2:39

then the other thing was that when you think

2:41

about the John Burch Society, which is

2:43

a cornerstone of the materials that

2:45

are that are going to be in this thing

2:47

I'm putting together, the first

2:50

meeting that they had, the

2:52

founding members that were there -- Mhmm. --

2:54

a lot of these people were business

2:57

folks. They were industrialists. They

2:59

were members of the National Association of

3:01

Manufacturers. You know, yes,

3:04

most fascists are. Sure.

3:06

You had the candy man.

3:08

Cheryl. Chad. Absolutely. Fred Coke.

3:10

Uh-huh.

3:10

You know, you have these folks who were you

3:13

know, I I'm sure they had ideas Right.

3:15

But they weren't primarily idea of

3:17

people. Right. Whereas Ravilo

3:19

p Oliver was somebody who was there,

3:21

and he's an ideas guy. He

3:23

was, you know, he's a professor --

3:25

Sure. -- he's a, you know, academic. He's

3:28

somebody who has a lot of theory

3:31

about stuff. And when you know,

3:33

you look at that constellation

3:36

of people. Mhmm. That's the person

3:38

that I find most interesting. That

3:40

that's the person who's gonna have more writings

3:44

that have, like, implications for

3:46

maybe the way that the organization

3:49

ended up growing.

3:50

Well, yeah. Of course. I mean, the businessmen are

3:52

obviously outsourcing their thoughts to other

3:54

people too. They don't have time to

3:56

to think of things. And I'm sure I sure

3:58

they have some idea, some thoughts. Mhmm.

4:00

But they they hurt the poor.

4:03

That's a thought. That's a thought. It's an idea.

4:05

We need someone to make this sound better. Yeah.

4:07

Exactly. So I'm excited

4:09

about that. I've got his against

4:11

the grain here in front of me.

4:13

Yes. This is the first. The writings of

4:15

Professor Rabilo Pendleton Oliver

4:18

And there's a

4:20

number of chapters in here that

4:23

I think I think speak for themselves.

4:25

They spell trouble.

4:27

There's a a nice

4:31

editorial here. A white Christian

4:33

racistdefense his faith. I

4:35

mean, it's refreshingly

4:38

straightforward. Mhmm. I would accept

4:40

that. Especially if it was a white

4:43

racist defense his his racism

4:45

by just being, like, I really want to

4:47

-- Mhmm. -- at the end. There's

4:49

one chapter in

4:51

the larger section, race and

4:54

history distortion Sure.

4:56

There's a sub chapter and Frank's diary.

4:58

Oh. Not sure what I mean. Great. Your

5:00

response and that one's real quick. Yes.

5:02

So this is, you know, the direction that

5:04

some things are taking here with the the library.

5:06

763 know some I I've been

5:08

a little bit

5:10

slow in posting pictures. Sure. So I

5:13

wanted to give a little update about that and, you know,

5:15

there'll be some pictures.

5:15

Wow. I mean, you know how we've seen

5:18

so many failed stand up comedians

5:20

become right wing talking -- We

5:21

have -- -- idiots, you know. -- what's

5:23

great about Ravello is that

5:26

he was originally

5:28

the great Revilo. And

5:30

because of his failed magic career, well,

5:32

here we are. I wonder if it is

5:35

pronounced Ravello -- It is in my

5:37

brain forever. -- I've only seen it I've

5:39

only seen it written, I

5:40

suppose. But, yeah,

5:42

we never hear his name spoken aloud. I

5:44

think that is his, like, given

5:46

name. I think that is like, but it is

5:48

also an an like, a a

5:51

Palindrome.

5:53

REvilo, p Oliver, is a

5:56

palindrop. No. That's

5:58

fucking annoying. A little

5:59

bit. What a piece of shit.

6:01

If that's the case, you gotta blame his parents.

6:03

Well, I mean, I

6:04

think he deserves a response that you could change

6:07

your name. Yeah. I don't know. Well, maybe that'll

6:09

be another part of my research. I

6:11

believe this is his name and

6:12

why. Yeah. Oh, that's annoying. So

6:14

what's your bright spot? Oh, boy.

6:17

My bright spot is I finally

6:19

got turned on or I finally listened to

6:22

the big thief album from last

6:23

year. Mhmm. A strong

6:26

new warm mountain or whatever. It's

6:27

called It's good. Big thief

6:30

featuring chief keys. Is it nope?

6:32

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

6:34

No.

6:34

No. It's surprising get yeah. I don't get it. I

6:37

don't I'm not an anti big thief for a

6:39

long time.

6:39

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've been anti big thief

6:42

because to me, for a long time, they've

6:44

sounded like if Courtney Barr and

6:46

that headed gang gang dance or

6:47

something. I know that means nothing to some people, but Here

6:50

here's what's great about it. I understand. I

6:52

I hear the name big thief. I don't know

6:54

where to slot this. I don't know what they are.

6:56

I don't know genre. And then

6:58

you name other people, and I don't know what

7:00

they are. Know what they are. He's like okay.

7:02

He's gonna say what it's a combination of I'm gonna

7:04

be able to figure this is this rock?

7:06

Is this

7:06

rock? Is this folk? What is this?

7:08

But then you name people in, like, I I don't

7:10

know them either. I'll

7:11

tell you this. Yep. It's

7:12

a little bit of everything. Okay. That's the

7:14

problem. You know, there's a little bit

7:16

of everything in there and it's not always

7:18

focused enough to be good at the thing

7:20

that they're

7:20

doing. Mhmm. This album is good at the thing that

7:23

they're doing. It's

7:23

good. Okay. Great. Is

7:25

there any what's

7:28

that what's that genre that

7:30

I I love. Trap. No.

7:33

God damn it. It's not it's got it's like a beachy.

7:36

It's

7:36

very beachy. Beachy. Yeah. I don't know. The

7:38

the the

7:40

softer rock. You know? I'd

7:42

like I'm not a famous rock

7:44

either. Re gay. You don't like Re gay. I

7:46

like some Re gay, but most of it is too

7:48

chill for me.

7:49

That's right. We've had this discoveries.

7:50

I find it -- Yes. -- too relaxed.

7:53

Oh, dairies. Stress out dairies.

7:55

This is this is

7:55

making me worry about the future. Yeah.

7:58

I don't I don't appreciate that. They're

8:01

either still relaxed and chill or

8:03

they're putting

8:04

that, like, image on. Right. Right.

8:06

Right. And then

8:06

if they're deceiving you, it's actually terrifying.

8:09

Right? The implications of it or Yeah.

8:11

Yeah. Yeah. Passonova.

8:13

That's what I was thinking of. Yeah.

8:16

Speech I don't

8:17

know. Alright. Is

8:18

there a

8:19

is there a boss onova? I mean, I I

8:21

mean, I'm already talking.

8:22

I mean, I suppose, yeah, like Antonio

8:25

Carlos chopem, kind of Yeah.

8:27

Exactly. There's no there's

8:30

no bossinova in there.

8:32

Oh. Maybe you

8:34

call big v if ask him to talk a little bit about

8:36

Lenovo. Not a bad idea. I don't think

8:38

you're wrong. Okay.

8:41

Anyway -- Yes. -- I'm glad you're doing that up.

8:43

I'm sorry. What are we what are we doing

8:45

today? We're doing an episode.

8:47

Whoa. Jordan, so we on

8:49

our last episode, we talked about the end of the

8:51

year broadcast on shows.

8:53

December 31st on all of my checks.

8:55

Yeah. And we had

8:57

to tease from Alex -- Yes. -- that

8:59

he was going to reveal

9:01

his predictions for the

9:03

of the coming year. And I decided,

9:05

I can't do that. What I'm gonna do is I'm

9:07

gonna lock myself in my office for six to

9:09

seven hours. Tell my wife, I'm not coming

9:11

home. Right. I'm gonna take care of this, and it's gotta

9:13

be dark in that office. And

9:16

then he's fuck

9:16

it. You know what? It'll do you want better -- Right. -- going

9:18

to the woods -- Right. -- for a couple days.

9:20

I recall him escalating to

9:23

going to the woods for a couple of days. he's gotta

9:25

get in the zone with God and God's

9:27

gotta tell him stuff and that can only happen in a

9:29

creek. And he

9:29

needs to cry and walk. He's a cry Walker. He

9:31

is. Yes. So we

9:33

tuned in as we were recording our last

9:35

episode on Alex's Sunday show, and it

9:37

turns out he was

9:38

there. He was in studio. Interesting. So

9:40

he did not go to the woods. Did they

9:42

turn all the lights off so he could talk in the

9:44

dark? No. Oh, it but

9:46

he barely talked. He wasn't talking about

9:48

that much. Okay. It was an interview with

9:51

Francis Boyle. Doctor

9:53

Francis Boyle. Sure. The guy

9:55

who is a Bio weapons specialist of some

9:57

sort, and he has apparently some thoughts

9:59

about Ukraine. Great. It was

10:01

a pointless interview. Yeah. We did not

10:03

get predictions about the year. That doesn't

10:05

surprise me. That was the whole first hour.

10:07

Mhmm. And then the second hour

10:10

was just reruns. Alex laughed.

10:12

So

10:12

So he is

10:12

in the woods.

10:13

Well, here's the thing.

10:14

Uh-huh. I

10:15

tuned in on Monday. Uh-oh. And what do

10:17

I find? Oh, no. Info

10:19

wars dot com. Law

10:22

on air in the year twenty

10:25

twenty three. He's in the woods to

10:27

suck all that noise. What?

10:29

I'm just slice at these

10:31

steaks.

10:31

Yeah. Wait. Is

10:34

is the theme states sucking on the

10:36

New Year? No.

10:36

Just make it just still on air. Sure.

10:38

But I mean, if awards is still on air

10:40

twenty twenty three, I mean, you

10:42

know, got a problem with that. We got tarrin'

10:44

work.

10:46

This is a talk Arbitrary

10:50

demarcation of time. I refuse to

10:52

acknowledge that as an existent. The

10:54

new degeneration x?

10:56

Nope. The New Age outlines. Here they

10:59

Harrison Smith and the So

11:01

absolutely not. Tag team chose. Review.

11:03

Please. You've got What

11:06

would Harrison Smith's final move

11:08

be? The

11:09

snooze. He puts you

11:11

to sleep. He just it's talking to you for a

11:13

long time. Sleeper hold. It's

11:14

a sleeper hold. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't

11:16

buy him putting anybody to sleep in that. No.

11:18

But it's thematic fitting. Sure.

11:21

And then Alex, I guess, would

11:23

be for triple h

11:25

or maybe John Michaels.

11:27

I mean, I think he's more Hong

11:30

Kongan now. Well, that's that's

11:32

like the New World Order

11:32

stuff. Oh, that's You're right. I forgot. I'm I'm trying

11:35

to cast the jet I understand

11:36

my my attitude era is

11:39

not as complete as yours.

11:41

Cousin Buckley is ravishing Rick

11:43

Root. Right. Right now,

11:45

obviously. That was obvious.

11:47

Savannah Hernandez is China because

11:50

she's the only female that I think

11:52

is still

11:52

around. Yeah. There's really weaver's gone.

11:55

Caitlin Bennett, I don't think, is

11:57

still around. I don't even know if she's still around

11:59

in in a period. And I know that Savannah has

12:01

actually worked Like, she worked for the blaze, but she still

12:03

has a channel on Band dot video. Sure.

12:06

Nick Fuentes could be ravishing Rick

12:08

Root because he had a mustache. Oh.

12:10

And Nick had mustache. Enough

12:12

of this. Okay. Anyway,

12:15

Alex is in the woods. It appears -- Sure. -- on

12:17

Monday or something. He's just not there.

12:19

So left me in a little bit of a

12:21

bind because I was obviously

12:23

wanting to get to these

12:25

predictions. Right. I'm very excited about that. I wanna

12:27

know what's coming. Alex has a

12:29

responsibility to tell us because he's a psychic,

12:31

and I'm not. Boy, he really is a

12:33

psychic too. Yeah. So

12:35

anyway, I I felt like

12:37

I wanted to tell the world that we don't have the predictions.

12:40

But that's not a episode. It's a kind of

12:42

episode. Goodbye. That

12:44

is not a full episode. Fair. And

12:46

so I thought, like, well, we can we can go back

12:48

to two thousand three. We can make some progress through

12:50

two thousand three. Sure. And it

12:53

dawned on me that actually,

12:55

we are right at the point

12:57

where Saddam gets found. He

12:59

got found on December thirteenth --

13:02

Okay. -- two thousand three,

13:04

and our next episode as we're progressing through would

13:06

be December twelfth. Oh, so

13:08

here we are. Okay. We get

13:10

to figure out what happens happened

13:12

when Alex heard the news that

13:14

Saddam Hussein was

13:16

found. Clearly,

13:16

if I remember my two thousand three 763

13:19

correctly, it was Czechoslovakia,

13:21

who did

13:22

it. Correct? No. They trained the

13:24

dogs that found sedar.

13:26

Sure. Okay. That bet I'm better now.

13:28

Yeah. So we'll get down to business on this. But

13:30

before we do, Jordan, let's take a little moment and say hello

13:32

to some new walks. Oh, that's great idea. So

13:34

first, Jen Jam. Thank you so much for

13:36

an hour policy walk. A policy

13:38

walk. Thank you very much. Thank you.

13:41

Happy. It's cool whenever Dan gets to it

13:43

birthday, Eric from

13:44

Kate. Our puppy's meadow, Bandit, and horse

13:47

radish, the pod dog. Thank

13:48

you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm

13:49

a policy wonk. Happy my day. Right

13:52

on time this time. Thank you

13:54

very much. Next, thanks to Alex Jones

13:56

for my new gender, gremlin

13:58

rape. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm

14:00

a policy walk. Thank you very much. Hey,

14:02

you. Next, Luke. I am your father.

14:04

Thank you so much. You're now a policy

14:06

walk. I'm

14:06

a policy walk.

14:08

Yeah. III mean, I

14:10

don't know why nobody's tried that would

14:12

before. I feel like that was that's been

14:14

there for we're on episode

14:16

seven hundred and sixty two or whatever.

14:18

Right? True. Yeah. Next, did European studies really

14:20

prepare us for this

14:21

ember? Thank you so much. You're now a policy

14:23

walk. I'm a

14:24

policy walk. Thank you very much. And,

14:26

Squatch curious has joined a party. Thank you so much.

14:28

You're now a policywalk. I'm a policywalk.

14:30

Thank you very much. And we got a

14:32

technocrat in the mix. And this person I have

14:34

to give an apology to because they wanted me

14:36

to play and out of context

14:38

drop of myself, but

14:40

I don't know where that is in the emails. And

14:43

they sent this message a couple

14:45

months ago. Right. I I have no

14:47

idea. But if they

14:49

resend that email, maybe I'll play it in the

14:51

future or something. But in

14:53

lieu of that, they asked for this

14:56

show. So thank you very much. Danielle had a

14:58

great idea for a shout out, but Dan and Jordan

15:00

didn't listen. And now you're all stuck with this

15:02

stupid shout out, man. Thank you so much.

15:04

You are now with epicenter. I'm a

15:06

policy wonk. Someone,

15:11

sodomy, sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy's ass ass

15:13

ass ass

15:15

ass assays a Caribbean

15:18

black action. He's a loser,

15:20

little little teeny baby. I

15:22

don't wanna hate black people. I

15:24

renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so

15:26

much. Thank you very much. And I'll I'll play

15:28

I'll play that clip if we we get to get to it. If

15:30

I

15:30

understand correctly, were they was

15:32

that referring to if you decided not

15:34

to play the clip, then they would

15:36

be like

15:36

Well, this one would be good. Yeah. Here's the

15:38

name if you don't wanna do this. That's I

15:41

mean, a a subtle

15:43

dig at you. In That's

15:45

fantastic. Sure.

15:45

I appreciate it. Sure. But it also could be, you

15:47

know, it could be if this is too much of a hassle.

15:50

Sure. Sure. Absolutely. Anyway,

15:52

sorry about that. Yep. So we got

15:54

this episode to do. And I wanna say a

15:56

little tease. And that is

15:58

that if you stick around till the end of the episode,

16:00

we will have a new song by

16:02

DJ Dan argue that we forgot to

16:04

play earlier. We're

16:07

great. We're great. You know what? It's it's

16:09

one thing to just, like, yeah, we kinda

16:11

forget things, you know. But when it's,

16:14

like, a couple in a row -- It

16:16

doesn't feel great. --

16:16

it okay. So there is and

16:19

and, you know, you and I both

16:21

have strenuously avoided

16:22

this, but there are reasons people

16:24

have other people work on things. Yeah.

16:26

Yeah. That's true. A lot of other shows

16:28

have staffs. Mhmm. There are people

16:31

designated to remember things. Right. That's

16:33

crazy. Yeah. Never gonna

16:35

happen with us, but

16:38

looking over at the other person who

16:40

works at this show.

16:44

Could maybe get a planner or something. Well,

16:46

that's probably a good idea. Anyway,

16:49

there will be a new song of

16:51

the nightway man mix. Hi, DJ Danner.

16:53

It's great. The episode, but here

16:55

we go. We're gonna start. And

16:57

we start on the twelfth. actually,

16:59

we don't have any clips from the twelfth. It is a

17:01

boring show. Nothing happens. I

17:04

I couldn't find anything to grab

17:06

onto. Alex is killing time. Sure.

17:08

It is not even interesting,

17:11

but there's a commercial that I heard

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advertising for a

18:06

drug shopping kind of thing. And

18:08

like, look, it's one thing I

18:11

don't know. Actually, I'm going to try and

18:13

capture this and

18:13

anything. It brings up,

18:13

like, muscle relaxants, pain

18:16

killers. Yes. Like, these are some

18:18

dangerous things to be taking outside the

18:20

supervision

18:20

of, like, doctors care.

18:23

They list Soma as one of the things that

18:25

Oh, that's great. Yeah. Good. I

18:28

mean, no. When you're when you're

18:30

on a commercial, the one thing

18:32

I'm listening for is if you're

18:35

reinforcing once more,

18:37

just so you know, we have speed

18:39

and dick pills I think we know

18:41

what people are asking

18:42

for. Okay? Yeah. And there's

18:44

like, hey, we're only gonna be doing this for a

18:46

while. Right. That's

18:48

insane. Drugs now. What is this?

18:50

The wild west? This is a come

18:52

on down to get doctor Ginn's

18:54

tonic. It's not going to solve all your problems

18:57

today. I mean, this is a mess, but It's

18:59

also there isn't there's an

19:01

element of it that is just

19:03

deeply unethical. Yeah. No. This is

19:05

this can't be legal. Right? I don't

19:07

know. Is it was it legal in two thousand

19:09

three? Look, I don't know enough about the law, and

19:12

I assume that it is. I

19:13

assume that somewhere it's legal. Must

19:15

be there's some sort of a loophole or something there. Sure. You

19:17

know, I'm not I'm not saying that there's Alex should

19:19

be arrested or these people should be

19:22

arrested. But he should feel

19:24

terrible. Like advertising for the I mean, I

19:26

think that it's even dicey to

19:28

advertise like gambling stuff.

19:30

Yeah. I think that's a little bit shady. Yeah.

19:32

I think I think even I bet

19:34

maybe I'm more anti advertising than a lot

19:36

of folks, but I understand people taking

19:39

ads you know, something

19:41

that could potentially be dangerous.

19:44

Sure. But, like, this is

19:47

a you want free access to medications

19:49

that could potentially completely

19:52

destroy your life. And I'm Alex

19:54

Jones, somebody who hates Pharmaceutical.

19:57

Right. Right.

19:57

Right. How do you think that every shooter is

20:00

somebody who's on brain control meds?

20:02

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't take psychiatric

20:04

drugs. Take speed and

20:06

dick pills. Preferably together and with

20:07

alcohol. But from my from

20:08

my impression that I call, you can get psychiatric meds

20:11

too. Oh, of course. You can get anything you want from

20:13

that place, which again is a

20:15

problem. Yeah. If I mean,

20:17

hindsight's twenty twenty. But if I was

20:19

listening to that, Sorry.

20:24

I don't appreciate

20:27

iJokes because I'm

20:28

blind. III

20:30

the other It is so clear,

20:33

like, oh yeah, the opioid crisis

20:35

is one hundred percent

20:36

common.

20:36

Mhmm. One hundred percent

20:38

common. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I think

20:40

I think that if you're Alex Jones, there's, like,

20:42

there should be a point at which, like,

20:44

I understand that this ad is probably run

20:46

through Midas Resources or Genesis. Sure.

20:48

You know, like, this is Ted Anderson's fault.

20:51

Yeah. But if I were Alex,

20:53

I would put some sort

20:55

of standards in place

20:57

where I'm like, no. You don't do

20:59

this. You're going to get you're

21:01

going to run the risk of getting audience addicted

21:03

to pills --

21:03

Sure. -- that will destroy their lives.

21:06

Well, they maybe don't need

21:08

them or Okay. I I mean,

21:10

Dan, that would only make sense if they

21:12

were operating under similar rules as like

21:14

a as like a drug dealer of some sort. You know,

21:16

like, they would do something like say,

21:18

oh, the first taste is

21:20

free. And then later on, whenever you came back to them

21:22

because you're addicted to it, you wouldn't

21:24

get it for free. But

21:25

clearly, that's way to a

21:28

second, Dan? Well, they're not gonna be shipping them for

21:30

free for long. Yeah.

21:33

That sucks. Yeah. So -- Yeah.

21:36

Yeah. -- the twelfth is a Friday. Yeah.

21:38

So the weekend

21:40

comes and

21:40

goes. Mhmm. And saddam got captured over

21:42

the week weekend. And so on the fifteenth, 15,

21:45

do a doo stomp

21:45

on the weekend. Yeah. Because you know what?

21:48

Yeah. So and you

21:50

I was trying to find a way to connect this to, like,

21:52

you always gonna fired on Friday. Right. Right.

21:54

Right. But Alex comes

21:57

in on on Friday. Alex

21:59

comes in on on

22:01

Monday. Yeah. And here is

22:03

where he's at. I mean, at

22:05

least he doesn't beat around the

22:06

bush. He just gets to the news.

22:09

Hello, my ends. Welcome to another

22:11

live edition of the Alex Jones

22:13

Show. I'm chomping at the

22:15

bit to comment on the

22:17

supposed capture of

22:18

Sedan. I was

22:19

in Houston, Texas Sunday morning

22:21

after success. Yeah. That's the way you're doing

22:23

it. And John Carpenter's, they live at

22:25

the local movie theater there

22:28

Great seeing everybody, and I got

22:30

up that morning, turned on the

22:32

television, something I rarely do these

22:34

days. And they were announcing that

22:36

they had captured the rat.

22:38

They had the ace in

22:40

the hole. They

22:42

had captured Saddam who's saying the day

22:44

before, and they

22:46

were announcing it to us, the governor

22:49

of the American governor of the

22:51

territory of the

22:52

holding. saying

22:55

that we have done it and some Iraqi

22:57

journalist about ten of them jumped up and started

22:59

the hooting and hollering and raising

23:02

this development What a what a

23:04

monumental weekend? I mean, first of all, you

23:06

had Sodom getting captured. Sure. And then Alex

23:08

was at the Alamo Drafthouse. Yeah. And he

23:10

did his his movie screening. Yeah. Yeah. I

23:13

to say that I think Alex is a little

23:15

bit annoyed that saddam got

23:17

captured because it kind of makes it so

23:19

he can't just talk about the

23:21

show how much of a success it

23:21

was. I mean, I'm assuming that Alex would be

23:24

annoyed if he had gone down on the plane with the

23:26

big bopper and wasn't given

23:28

head

23:28

billing, you know. Mhmm. Like, that kinda

23:30

thing. Alex would be very frustrated if he lost

23:32

any clout to

23:33

anyone. Wait. Wait. You're saying that he would be

23:35

upset if he was on the plane with the big bopper

23:37

as opposed to with Buddy Holly. Well,

23:41

whatever. Yeah. I'm backwards.

23:43

Yeah. Yeah. My bad. I'm backwards. And

23:45

the only reason I break it up is

23:47

because it runs counter to the argument

23:50

Absolutely. The complete opposite. It's

23:52

been I

23:53

believe it's been a long day. I understand. Alright.

23:55

The stakes were made.

23:56

Alright. It's really good stuff. Stuff like that out there.

23:59

It's raining in Chicago. That's the

24:01

problem. Yeah. I got a

24:01

bum knee. Mhmm. It's all there. And the rain

24:04

exacerbates that knee. It We

24:06

know from far side shit

24:08

too. It's really true, though. It

24:10

hurts. So we don't really

24:12

know what Alex's vibe is

24:14

yet. Yeah. You know, there he he's kind of

24:16

saying these supposed to

24:17

capture, but there's not really a

24:20

sense that he's like, this is fake -- Yeah. -- or

24:22

anything. And

24:24

AND THAT CONTINUES. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY

24:26

FALSE REPORTS OF CAPTURES OF OTHER PEOPLE. I

24:28

THOUGHT WE GO OVER THIS TODAY.

24:31

I

24:31

don't know what to

24:32

believe. Interesting. And we're

24:34

gonna open the phones up early in the shopping

24:36

and -- Yeah. -- was he -- will take dozens

24:38

and dozens and A dozen calls today.

24:41

Wide open phones on the

24:43

show. What do you think's happening? Your

24:46

chance to

24:46

respond, I don't know. It doesn't know.

24:49

It's kind of refreshing to hear Alex just say that he has no

24:51

idea what the reality of a given situation

24:53

is. You'd never hear him show that kind

24:55

of weakness these days, but in

24:57

the past, Alex's brand was being a smart truth

25:00

teller, not that he's a profit ordained by

25:02

God and given a divine revelation,

25:04

and a a guy who can also

25:06

see the future. That's a good His image can sustain a

25:08

little bit of uncertainty in two thousand three,

25:10

which is just kind of like a

25:12

normal person. I mean, not knowing

25:14

things is actually one of the most

25:17

one of the strongest things that

25:19

a truth teller does --

25:21

Sure. -- not no things. Right. It's

25:23

a a wise man admits when he doesn't know

25:25

-- Wow. -- of things. One who speaks does

25:27

not know. Exactly.

25:28

Yeah. Jefferson?

25:30

No. That Lautzer.

25:33

Okay. Close close close close.

25:34

So that being said, all that being said,

25:37

Alex is not being above board here. Mhmm. On the

25:38

surface, he's saying that he doesn't know what to think, but

25:41

he's very clearly trying to imply to

25:43

the audience that they should think that the

25:45

capture of Saddam was fake.

25:47

All the external context that he adds to

25:49

the coverage serves only to justify coming

25:51

to the conclusion that it was fake.

25:53

Alex points out that other captors have

25:55

been faked before, which is supposed to make

25:57

the listener feel like deciding Saddam's

25:59

capture was faked, is a more rational

26:01

act than Trump believed. Yeah.

26:04

You may notice that Alex is not doing

26:06

this kind of insinuation in the other

26:08

direction, providing defenses for the

26:10

listener who may be inclined to think that the capture

26:12

was legit. That's because there is a

26:14

conclusion Alex is driving at even

26:16

if he's trying to hide behind pretending that

26:18

he's clueless and I don't know what to

26:19

think. Sure. I mean, it's

26:22

it's obviously more likely

26:25

for him to lean towards it

26:27

was fake. I mean, that's

26:29

his bailiwick, you know, on

26:31

the day to day. I'm a little

26:33

confused as to why he's not in this

26:35

one. You know, in

26:37

this particular situation. I feel like with

26:39

the knowledge of Saddam's

26:42

doubles all over the place, you

26:44

know, everybody knew that was going around.

26:46

True. You have a you have a fairly good

26:48

shot at least for a few

26:50

days -- Mhmm. -- of

26:50

being, like, I don't think it was him.

26:53

They have to prove it. I think they're faking it. Well,

26:55

I I had a couple of thoughts about that. Yeah.

26:57

We'll we'll get into that a little bit things

26:59

go along. Mhmm. But

27:01

also interestingly, there is not

27:03

really any inclination towards

27:05

the double and stuff. Even though he

27:07

does bring up that there were doubles, he's

27:10

pretty insistent that this is

27:12

actually sadam. Interesting. Yeah. Because

27:14

he he was saying that

27:16

some other time in the

27:18

not too distant past,

27:20

some other picture of Saddam

27:22

was a double. He has a lot of ideas about

27:25

whether or not Saddam's neck is

27:26

thick. Sure. Sure.

27:28

A very pressing question for him. I

27:30

I do believe

27:31

he measures Naples versus by

27:33

thickness of that. It's critical. It's a

27:35

snap. Since it's a saying in his house, oh,

27:37

that man has a real thick neck. Yep. So

27:39

Alex continues to pretend that there's,

27:42

like, I don't know what's going on

27:44

here. I know this though. That

27:46

should mom they showed during the war

27:48

with the glasses was not Saddam.

27:50

The Israelis and Iranian and

27:52

others looked at it and said that's not Saddam I

27:54

could look at it and tell you it wasn't Saddam, though

27:56

it was a better body double than the

27:58

fat guy that they claimed was bin laden two

28:01

years ago. Remember that that, you

28:03

know, the guy in the dark room that looked nothing like Bin

28:05

Laden had a nose twice the

28:07

size of Bin Laden's. We

28:11

know that was fake. We know that the Pentagon has

28:13

planted hundreds of fake letters from

28:15

troops in newspapers with false

28:17

signatures. We know they lie dose

28:19

about mass graves and mobile weapons

28:21

trucks and uranium

28:23

from Nigeria. We

28:25

know that they've planted false

28:27

news stories when pending to

28:29

quote, create

28:29

hysteria. We know the Jessica Lynch

28:32

story was a quote fable,

28:34

so I don't know. What Alex is

28:37

doing here is teaching his audience how to argue

28:39

a point while knowing nothing about the

28:41

actual point you're arguing. Leaving aside

28:43

the dubious nature of some of the

28:45

points Alex just listed off, even if all of

28:47

that was totally true and accurate, none of it

28:50

would prove that Saddam's capture wasn't

28:52

real. Right. At best, the argument

28:54

he's making could conclude that the globalists

28:56

are capable of faking something, but that

28:58

doesn't mean that they did.

29:00

The goal of this style of argumentation is

29:02

to overwhelm the person you're arguing

29:04

with. It's a barrage of points that don't prove

29:07

anything, but it's literally impossible

29:09

for someone to respond to what Alex is

29:11

saying in any satisfactory way.

29:13

You see this kind of behavior a ton in social media comment.

29:15

So it's kinda kinda makes sense

29:17

that Alex would have gravitated so strongly to

29:20

that

29:20

swamp. Here's how I would respond to it.

29:23

Okay? I would ignore most of

29:25

it. Usually, I would -- Yeah. -- I would say

29:27

I of all things.

29:29

If I recall correctly,

29:32

Well, Sam had a bit of a hunker. I

29:34

wouldn't I wouldn't choose the size

29:36

of his nose to

29:37

measure. He had a large nose.

29:39

Right. There's

29:39

nothing wrong with that. Or give him a that's not a nose. Look at

29:41

that nose. Exactly. If you look at the

29:43

man, you know, like, come on. If if you

29:46

guys gaining weight of

29:48

course, he gained

29:48

weight. He used to be flying around and shit,

29:51

and I was just sitting in a hole with his thirty

29:53

wives or whatever. Well, I would say that

29:55

you're not gonna win going down that

29:57

road. You're first instinct was better, which is just ignore all this

29:59

stuff and stay on the point that you're -- Right. --

30:01

supposed to be talking about -- I'm -- which

30:03

is the the sadam

30:05

what what do you know about

30:06

it? And you're not he's not saying anything.

30:09

Right. Right. But that's why I feel like we need to

30:11

get to the bottom of this Osama thing. Mhmm. Because

30:13

he's not really saying, I think about but I

30:15

wanna know what he thinks about when he

30:17

sees Osama's

30:17

nose. You know? Like, what is

30:20

the size that is large or

30:22

small? In that picture. Do you know what I'm saying?

30:25

0II think I mean,

30:27

IIII see maybe

30:29

how you would want it to have a good time.

30:31

I'm gonna argue with Alexia. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think

30:33

it's a fruitful road. Wow. Fair.

30:36

So the second goal of

30:38

kind of argumentation, is to make an

30:40

argument without having to own the fact that you

30:42

made that argument. Alex is

30:44

arguing that Saddam's capture was

30:46

faked, but he has every ability to

30:48

pretend that he's not. If you were to

30:50

say that he's making that argument, he'd be able

30:52

to weasel his way out of that by the

30:54

point of the didn't say that.

30:56

Meanwhile, Alex has been saying that

30:58

Saddam fled to Belarus with his kids in a

31:00

bunch of gold ever since he was ousted from

31:02

power, so If you're a person familiar

31:04

with the content and narratives that are active

31:06

on Infowars at this point, you would know

31:08

that what Alex is saying is

31:10

not I don't know. He's saying,

31:12

like, basically, that he wants to call it fake,

31:14

but he doesn't have the right talking point to

31:16

anchor that claim yet, so he's gonna

31:18

play dumb. He'll take of calls and

31:20

hopefully one of them will make a point that he could use

31:22

to strengthen his conspiracy, but make no

31:25

mistake. Alex isn't looking for

31:27

information that'll help him arrive at the CLOSION THAT

31:29

THE CAPTURE WAS REAL. IF THAT

31:31

WAS THE CASE, THEN IT WOULD CALL INTO

31:33

QUESTION SO MANY OF HIS OTHER

31:35

NARRATIVES ABOUT THE IRAC WAR. AND pieces

31:37

would start to fall. It still

31:39

needs to be fake in order for

31:41

all these other things to be maintained.

31:43

Yeah. Think that's one of the things that

31:46

is applicable in so

31:48

many different aspects of life

31:50

is that type of thing. When somebody says that

31:52

type of thing to you, you know, the I

31:54

am saying this, but I'm afraid to take responsibility

31:57

for it. There is no point

31:59

point in, like, trying to convince them of something. Mhmm. They

32:01

have no interest in being convinced. They're

32:03

they're trying to get through

32:06

this with what they have and

32:08

intact, you know? Well, and there's a

32:10

there's a conclusion or

32:12

an ending point that they're angling

32:15

towards and that they're going to keep

32:17

moving towards --

32:17

Right. -- regardless. Yeah.

32:19

You're not going to talk them back --

32:21

Mhmm. -- from the the letter. No. And and so

32:23

much of this other stuff this pretending to

32:25

not really know and and

32:27

all this is is a performance that

32:31

kind of totally. Makes it seem more like

32:33

Alex is doing a investigative

32:36

process before he arrives --

32:37

Right. -- at his conclusion that

32:39

one way or another something was fake here. Right. Right.

32:41

Right. I don't know who did this, but

32:43

it has that fingerprints of every

32:46

republican I've ever

32:47

seen. So I'm just saying that they might be you

32:49

know, because Alex has a conspiracy here,

32:53

shocking. Yeah. And it's kind

32:55

of a decent way for him to

32:57

go in order to

32:57

maintain, like I said, a lot of those

33:00

other trappings -- Sure. -- that he has that

33:02

would intersect with Saddam

33:04

strategic flexibility

33:05

one might say. Sure. But, like,

33:07

you know, the I'm thinking of it more like

33:10

Zynga. Like, it's -- Sure. -- this

33:12

pulling against

33:13

it. Piece out does

33:15

not make everything thoughtful

33:16

whereas if you were to say, like, oh,

33:19

that you know, everything that they're saying about

33:21

this capture is totally accurate. the

33:23

whole the whole tower falls. The load stone.

33:25

Yeah.

33:25

This is what the Israeli intelligence

33:28

has to say, which doesn't even go along with

33:30

bush. Interesting. Indications

33:31

are, Saddam was being held prisoner. That's

33:34

from the Debka file, and that's

33:36

exactly what I thought. And

33:38

I was driving

33:39

back from Houston, listen to Tom.

33:41

Video in the propaganda and thinking

33:43

about it. I

33:44

sat there for an hour eating breakfast in my

33:46

hotel room, listening to what they were saying,

33:48

what they were up to, what they were doing.

33:51

And I came away

33:53

with that guy had been a prisoner. And

33:55

he was

33:55

drugged. I mean, you know when somebody's on

33:58

drugs, he was on some type of

34:00

depression. Essent.

34:00

That was

34:01

clear. Look like somebody popped up

34:03

on psychotropics as well

34:05

or lithium. Yeah. So Alex says,

34:08

decide that the new way to go with it is he

34:10

was a prisoner. He was held

34:12

captive. Right.

34:13

You do not know when a person is

34:16

on drugs.

34:18

But if you're

34:20

Alexia, dude, because you guys discernment.

34:23

I just feel

34:25

like that's not mean, sometimes you know when a person's on

34:27

drugs. True. But you do not know when a person is

34:30

on

34:30

drugs. No. As a blanket statement. You

34:33

can suspect and maybe have have caused to be a

34:35

little bit suspicious. I'm gonna

34:37

throw this out there. Seeing somebody

34:39

on TV after have

34:41

been in a hole for several -- To the -- days.

34:44

Yeah. I don't know if you can tell

34:46

if they're on drugs or one way or

34:48

the other.

34:49

Nope. I think that might be AAA

34:51

bit of a biased circumstance. Also, I mean,

34:53

I'm not seeing a study on this, but --

34:55

Yeah. -- being

34:55

in a hole for a couple days get your eyes out.

34:57

I

34:57

think it'd be more I think it'd be more

35:00

effective than drugs that driving you

35:02

insane at least. Yeah. But you

35:04

see, this is a good way for

35:06

all of the things that Alex has said

35:08

already to sort of be

35:10

recontextualized. Right.

35:11

So when The Winston was ousted

35:13

from power. There was the he flew

35:16

out to Belarus. Shares

35:18

hanging out there. Great place. Know what have you.

35:22

Yeah. This can go along with that. It's

35:24

like that was we were wrong about

35:26

that. Mhmm. The intel was there,

35:28

but they got double crossed, so

35:30

they kidnapped sadam,

35:32

which may put him in the hole and they

35:34

were holding him in order to be

35:36

turned over in order to

35:38

give the globalists a big

35:40

boost or some

35:40

sort. They put on ice. I mean, I'm

35:42

gonna say even even for Saddam, they

35:44

would not have put him in what

35:47

amounted to a

35:47

coffin. Right? As far as a prison goes, they would at least put him in a

35:50

room. Well, yeah. You

35:52

you

35:52

yeah. But they you hide in a

35:54

coffin because you're

35:55

trying not to be found.

35:58

Or

35:58

you

35:59

don't want them to be found until it's time for the Sure.

36:02

Sure. A reveal. Fight fight. We're gonna

36:04

work it all back until the time

36:06

is

36:07

ripe. To reveal that we have been keeping to Dominic Moffett.

36:10

Mhmm. But yeah.

36:12

Okay. So It's a good movie.

36:14

Alex, he was coming back

36:16

from Houston. And he was

36:18

listening to these talk radio stations,

36:20

discuss the Sodom discovery.

36:22

Sure. And he decided I

36:24

gotta get in the mix

36:26

here. I show brought to charity another film

36:28

at the movie theater and he has been a

36:30

big success, great seeing everybody. And

36:34

so I get up Sunday breakfast in

36:37

the hotel room and I turn

36:39

on

36:39

the news

36:39

at, like, nine o'clock,

36:42

eight o'clock in the morning and

36:44

there's saddam captured. And so I

36:45

watched that for a few hours.

36:46

Leave and I'm driving back to Austin

36:48

three and a half hours.

36:52

Let's

36:52

take to Houston talk radio, Austin talk radio, and

36:54

San Antonio talk radio,

36:56

and briefly Dallas. I listened

36:59

to three local shows and part of a syndicated

37:01

show. I called into three local

37:04

shows on Big

37:05

15 thousand a a fifty

37:08

thousand watt AMs, I

37:10

call into them and I say, well, I just

37:12

wanna point out that Bush cut Taiwan

37:14

loose. And so they, you know, they could be on their

37:16

own by light in our treaty with them. China is a much greater threat.

37:18

More abuse than than Saddam were thought

37:20

of. Why are we talking about Saddam as, quote,

37:22

the next hit they're being

37:24

captured, but but but not

37:26

talking about how our government funded and

37:28

created him, and they'd say thanks for your opinion

37:30

and hang up on me. So

37:32

I'd call back and I'd

37:34

go, this is Kevin. I'd

37:35

like to hang that piece

37:37

of film. And

37:40

I thought think we ought to arrest

37:42

anybody that disagrees with

37:42

Bush. Alex, let's get you why are you calling

37:44

to get you right on?

37:46

And

37:47

they would put on the air, and I'd

37:49

suddenly switch to my regular, know, Alex Jones, and I'd say I'd

37:52

shift out of characterization. You know, we put

37:54

Saddam and

37:56

Powell hour, and told him to invade Kuwait, and

37:58

told him to attack Iran, and, you

38:00

know, he is a thug. But compared to all these

38:02

other people, he's nothing in the public. Say what?

38:05

Teams say that they want to, you know, wanted

38:07

to have tears and excuse to get the oil

38:09

that Chanan wasn't a threat that Cheney

38:11

wrote that. And a

38:14

host would hang up on me and go, how dare you say you were for

38:16

the president or for this and then come

38:18

on and do

38:19

that? You lied. But them

38:21

doing that, they show they were censoring the calls.

38:24

We've heard

38:24

Alex yell at some people about

38:26

lying about their calls too. That's

38:28

seem like that. But I guess he's, you

38:31

know, he's condemning himself here.

38:33

Sure. No. I don't believe

38:35

that Necessarily doubtful, but it's fun it's a

38:37

fun story. But if

38:40

it did happen -- Sure. -- which, again,

38:42

I don't think this happened. No. But

38:44

if it did, I think a more

38:47

likely explanation for all of the things

38:49

that Alex is describing is

38:51

that the people who are

38:53

producing a radio show had

38:56

enough collars who maybe

38:58

had the perspective that Alex in his own

39:00

persona had. Sure. Or they got

39:02

the sense, this isn't gonna be a good call. This person's gonna be a

39:05

pain in the ass to talk to. True. I don't

39:07

wanna talk to this person. Possible.

39:10

Where as his sort of yokel character

39:12

that is like, I think that everybody

39:14

should be

39:15

hanged. 763. got a

39:17

lot of yokels. Right. That's

39:19

like, okay. Maybe this is somebody who

39:21

we don't have this voice call again.

39:24

Entertaining. Yeah. This will give us a new fresh

39:26

voice. Come on. People, you gotta stay

39:28

listening. Right. There might be a higher demand for that than whatever

39:30

Alex is bringing to the table, and they're trying to do

39:32

a show. Sure. So maybe

39:34

that's

39:35

what maybe that's a part of

39:38

it.

39:38

Let me put you on this. Hold

39:39

on. Okay. This didn't happen. No. No. No. Let

39:41

me put you on this. Okay. So Alex

39:44

calls in and they're like, Alex

39:46

Jones. Of course, we can't put you on

39:48

there. And then Alex calls

39:50

in doing his Kevin character -- Mhmm. -- and

39:52

then

39:53

they go Hold on. I'm gonna have to put you on hold.

39:55

Holy shit. Alex Jones is trying to do

39:57

a fucking character. Are you shitting me? We gotta

39:59

put this guy. We gotta put him

40:00

on. If he does the character, it's gonna

40:03

bucket grind. There

40:03

is an angle of that that would be

40:05

fun. Yeah.

40:05

But again, it did not happen.

40:07

Absolutely not. But that is the way that I would

40:10

believe it happened -- Mhmm. -- had it

40:12

happened. Yes.

40:12

So Alex gets a little bit more

40:15

into his sedan kidnapping theory.

40:17

And it looks

40:20

they were keeping him on ice to then bring him out. He

40:22

looked drug. He looked like he'd been beat up.

40:24

He had swelling all over his face, which

40:26

he has rained all consistent with being

40:29

in a often for, like, been blind. A lot the

40:31

last few

40:31

months. He because when

40:33

you've really been savagely beaten, all the

40:35

bruising doesn't go away around the

40:37

eyes, there's there's still a

40:39

general puffiness erased. You could see some

40:41

new scars on his face that weren't

40:44

there. And he looked like

40:46

he was popped

40:47

up. And in fact, everybody was saying that, man, he

40:49

looks like he's drunk.

40:50

So you look at

40:53

that. You know, I found

40:55

out from a high level Bush administration official that

40:57

I cannot name a lot of them live here in Austin

40:59

that on air force one, Bush

41:02

senior brag that they've not been lost and dead

41:04

from kidney failure, part of an

41:06

agreement with his family, and plan I've

41:08

been sentenced for two years, plan to roll

41:11

him out RIGHT ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE

41:13

THE

41:13

ELECTION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A

41:16

BUSH ADMINISTRATION PERSON. I THINK

41:18

THAT'S STEVE. That

41:20

sounds right. Because I do know that that their first

41:23

interview, and I've not been able to

41:25

find this as an audio or

41:28

video, but

41:30

I I have read the transcript of Steve's first interview -- Mhmm. --

41:32

and it appears that they hadn't spoken

41:34

before. And that is in two

41:36

thousand two. Wow. So

41:38

they they are in each

41:40

other's

41:40

lives. But maybe not, like,

41:43

super close. Sure. So just getting an email every now

41:45

and again from Steve saying absolute insane thing. It's

41:48

possible. Yeah.

41:48

But the kidney failure, the

41:51

Marfan syndrome thing is is

41:53

a Steve

41:54

Hallmark. Right. And so there's there's a

41:56

part of me that thinks, like, that's that's

41:58

what Alex is trying to skewer

42:01

with the Trump

42:01

administration figure. It

42:04

just occurred to

42:05

me that

42:07

people used to text

42:10

conspiracy theories to each other on t

42:12

nine. Like, if you can you imagine

42:14

flipping your razor phone open

42:16

and typing out like a long

42:18

series

42:18

like, here's what the Bush family I

42:20

would be furious when I got charged by the text.

42:23

Second too. No. Oh my god. That's

42:25

brutal. Eating up my plan here, man. 111444566

42:34

Yeah. That's no good. Those are

42:35

the days. You kids don't

42:38

know what You know what it

42:40

was like back in the day.

42:42

Trying to pill people on a flip

42:44

phone. You all

42:46

have it so good. Oh my god.

42:48

That's so fun. That's why they would use, like like

42:52

newsletters and stuff. Yeah. It's far more

42:54

effective and

42:56

convenient. So

42:58

Alex is, like, really trying

43:01

to leave the perception that

43:03

he I I don't know what's going on here.

43:05

Could be anything. Check. But

43:08

he's very clearly trying to argue that it

43:10

was fake. I mean,

43:10

the guy's been beat like a ball

43:13

headed step child. The

43:15

guy was high popped up on something. They probably dropped

43:17

some knock out gas in there five hours

43:20

before. They had A78 hour

43:22

timing. They went

43:24

in there him out, took him to the back down airport, stuck him up

43:26

there in front of everybody, and then there's the

43:28

question of body doubles because they admitted he had

43:30

ten body doubles. And I'll tell you, he

43:32

looks like the real That

43:34

guy they put up there with the glasses on

43:36

TV, different bones, structure, different

43:38

nose, different lips, little chicken neck,

43:40

sodom had a big old fat

43:43

that neck. That was not

43:45

ginormous. Exclusive evidence. It's a couple's next

43:47

gen here. And there's good to have lost weight. Touched

43:49

it as From being in a coffin.

43:51

Trusted his teeth or did it catch him? How did he know that just a few

43:53

hours after they announced it? They didn't. There's no

43:56

proof of that. So Dan

43:58

rather try

43:59

your concerns. After all these

44:02

staged unrest, after all the staged

44:04

business, I don't

44:06

know. I Alex is making a

44:08

ton of arguments for why this is a

44:10

fake capture, and he's attacking people like

44:12

Dan rather in the mainstream media for

44:14

reporting than he was sedan, who was

44:16

captured. Right. It could not be more clear. What Alex's

44:18

position is, but he's still doing the song and

44:20

dance about not knowing what he thinks.

44:22

And I

44:24

think Part of that is that this position helps persuade listeners.

44:26

If he comes out, guns blazing, yelling

44:28

about how this is fake, he might be

44:30

able to convince some or even most of

44:34

the audience But if he does it this way where he slow plays his argument

44:36

and pretends to be neutral, Alex is

44:38

able to walk the listeners to

44:40

the conclusion

44:41

while making it feel like they were the ones who came

44:43

up with it. This

44:44

is a pretty solid manipulation tactic,

44:47

but it also requires a

44:49

little subtlety. And I don't think Alex could pull this

44:51

kind of thing off nowadays. No. But

44:53

that is the real vibe that

44:55

I get from the way that he's

44:57

deploying his

44:57

I also have the sense

45:00

that pre I

45:03

am a prop that knows everything I'm always right about everything

45:05

one hundred percent of the time, maybe

45:08

he wants to he

45:10

wants to

45:12

go Right away. But he also has to talk himself into

45:14

it a little bit. He has to give

45:16

himself a pep talk on

45:18

why he

45:20

should give a full throat to this, you know. Mhmm. It's very shortly after

45:22

that. I doubt he's had too much time to think about

45:24

it. Let alone come up with a solid

45:26

plan for Monday. About

45:28

Sunday more and this is

45:30

Monday. He had plenty of

45:32

time. I'm

45:33

sorry? Sunday morning and this is Monday. So

45:36

he planned

45:38

No. I'm saying if if you were somebody who,

45:40

you know, used your time wisely.

45:42

That's that's where we're falling apart,

45:45

you and I. I'm saying all things being equal for

45:47

a human. It's enough time to

45:50

come up with an

45:51

argument. Right. Right. Right. We

45:53

are accounting for Alex. It's not like

45:55

he found out right before he got on air. Is that Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.

45:57

I think I think the way you're saying though about him, like, trying to

46:00

talk himself into it is kind of

46:04

I think there's some merit to that. And that's

46:06

the the impetus of, like, going to the

46:08

collars -- Yeah. -- that I feel like it's the I

46:10

need to find where my handhold is here

46:13

figure out what narrative I'm gonna be able to hinge

46:16

this on. Right. I I think there's

46:18

that. And that's part of why you

46:20

couldn't do it today is

46:22

because to day his character is all seeing

46:24

profit. You know? He doesn't need to talk himself

46:26

into

46:26

anything. He's seen it from God.

46:29

Yeah. There there's a weakness

46:32

to uncertainty in the present,

46:34

whereas in the past, it does not it

46:36

doesn't hurt his position and his

46:39

branding -- Yeah. -- to to have that --

46:41

Yeah. -- sort of uncertainty. When you start

46:43

a cult, you can doubt, but when you

46:45

get to a certain point you gotta

46:47

be all knowing. Mhmm. That's just how it goes. So you get some calls, and they're

46:49

mostly dumb and not really all

46:51

that interesting. Because

46:54

not necessarily get any any sort

46:56

of thing to hang his hat on.

46:59

Mhmm. The it's

47:02

all Like, the tone stays fairly consistent throughout,

47:04

which is this is fake, but

47:06

also un hedging a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

47:09

But some of the calls are kinda

47:12

interesting. How can we

47:14

handle Manuel? In Pennsylvania,

47:16

your chance to respond with what

47:18

you think one

47:19

on. Go ahead. Alex, this one looks kinda

47:19

sloppy. Because when they

47:22

threw him in there, you can see

47:24

a specific direct indication

47:26

of manipulation and insertion of

47:27

theatrics. When they say

47:28

that he had

47:29

Mars balls in there, the red flag at the God

47:31

of War. That's what I message

47:34

did.

47:34

You see

47:34

their intent before the pediatric, how they placed it. And

47:36

then the guy I'm like And for those that doubt,

47:39

it it sounds crazy. It's like leaving the

47:41

skull and bones card at the

47:43

sniper

47:43

scenes. It's like it's not like that. On on the one year

47:44

anniversary of nine eleven, the the New

47:46

York lottery nine eleven, the Chicago

47:48

Mercantile nine eleven.

47:51

Right. So Alex is responding to the caller this way, then

47:54

he's reinforcing the argument that the

47:56

Mars Bar is being in the --

47:57

Yes. Absolutely. -- hole

47:58

where a part of a calling

48:02

card that the globalists were using, that only the

48:04

elect could could see the messaging

48:06

of

48:06

it. Furthermore, those things

48:10

have happened. So if you're

48:12

comparing them to things that are

48:13

concrete, then that would

48:16

suggest that so is

48:18

this. It would have to be. Yeah. So that that

48:20

kind of conversation station is always, like,

48:22

fairly revealing of Alex's actual

48:24

like, what he wants the message the

48:27

audience takes away from his show to

48:29

be. Right. just can't get enough of a I

48:31

can't get enough of those

48:34

solid foundational arguments of

48:36

See, they said this thing

48:39

911 and this person said this thing,

48:41

911

48:41

clearly. Mhmm. I've I've

48:44

done. I've I've rested my case. Do you

48:46

not understand? Mhmm. They both

48:48

said nine eleven.

48:49

And

48:49

even that's not really true.

48:52

Michelin's cage came up with that argument, I

48:54

believe. Alex takes another call. Uh-huh.

48:56

And this person has something to ask

48:58

about. And actually, I applaud I applaud

49:00

Alex for

49:00

this. This is great. So I

49:01

wanted to I I wanted to ask you, did

49:04

you ever OF NECERA BEFORE? YEAH, IT'S NOT

49:06

REAL. IT ISN'T. NO,

49:08

IT'S A GOVERNMENT PROPEGANDA PIECE THAT

49:10

THERE'S A SECRET BILL, THAT AMERICA'S OKAY

49:13

AY AND THERE'S PATRIOTS IN AND

49:15

WASHINGTON HAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, GOT RID OF THE

49:17

FELTER RESERVE. IT IS TOTAL

49:20

PROPOGANDA TO people think

49:22

everything's okay as they set up martial

49:24

law

49:24

publicly. Oh, yeah. I I just

49:26

heard something about. I looked at their website, but I didn't

49:29

I I don't know what to draw and I'm glad you

49:31

know about

49:31

it. Nessura

49:32

and Jesura, those are the two things. The

49:34

the those are, like, really popular in

49:36

QAnon. Yeah. Yeah. I

49:37

know. Those are like, proto q shit. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.

49:39

The national economic security and recovery act is what that

49:41

stands for. And then the Jester is the

49:43

just the global But,

49:46

yeah, it's like this idea that all debts are gonna be forgiven

49:48

and, like, you know, it's

49:51

it's great for

49:53

Alex to

49:53

be, like, not bullshit. Yeah. Nah. Now,

49:55

it's very rare that there's something that is so beyond

49:57

the pale that even Alex isn't even he's

49:59

not entertaining it. Yeah.

50:01

That's just It is

50:04

it is just so fucking weird to

50:06

see him just be like,

50:08

nope, bullshit. I mean,

50:10

even he even tried a little bit with q to

50:12

be like, Oh, that's both. But even then, he hedged it. Yeah. He will. He tried

50:14

to go up to -- No.

50:15

Yeah.

50:15

-- run it for his own place. Exactly. And then

50:17

even when he couldn't,

50:20

though. He still didn't just go on and say like, it's

50:22

all bullshit. He was like, oh, they're right about some

50:24

things. He had to he had to do a little bit

50:26

of a middle ground

50:27

there. Now, what's But I

50:29

think that you can if you think about it for a

50:31

little while, I think you can come up with a pretty

50:34

decent sense of why this has to be

50:36

bullshit. Mhmm. And that is that it undermines his own

50:38

conspiracy. Yes. Like, if this

50:40

does exist, then there is no

50:42

reason to worry about the things Alex wants you

50:44

to

50:45

worry about. Right. And that is

50:47

completely anathema to his his space. Right. I

50:50

mean, it is it is still a

50:52

similar kind of way of

50:54

doing things.

50:56

Like, keep your keep your

50:58

followers or whatever in

51:00

stasis. Mhmm. You know? It but in this

51:02

situation, it's in a stasis

51:04

of, like,

51:05

we're on the cusp of everything being fine. Don't

51:07

do anything. But now what

51:08

you do can't really affect the -- Right.

51:11

-- coming of this NASA. Alex wants

51:13

you to be like, The only thing

51:15

you can do to stop me money. Mhmm. And that's a different

51:17

type of I have to fight

51:19

it. Yeah. Exactly.

51:20

And there's there's nothing to fight. Yeah.

51:24

Just it's

51:25

waiting. Yeah. These these are terrorist edging

51:28

in in opposition to each

51:30

other. So we have one

51:32

more clip here. And, I mean, I think

51:34

that Alex's take on this

51:36

is basically just what we've seen.

51:38

Mhmm. It's obvious that he's got he

51:40

thinks it's fake. Of course. But

51:42

the way he's talking about it has

51:44

these these layers of dynamics.

51:49

And I think that maybe this will develop more over

51:51

the the coming days back in two thousand

51:53

three, and we'll see about that. But for now,

51:55

Alex has to be wrong

51:58

about this. But remember, the

52:00

Bath Party is who's been put back into

52:02

power. They've been very quiet about that, but

52:04

they need to admit it.

52:06

But that

52:07

forty of those in power or high

52:09

level bathurst. Wow. I need to

52:12

we

52:12

need to go back and see what it was that we said

52:15

at the very beginning because I wasn't sure,

52:17

but I think I jokingly

52:18

said, I bet he's just gonna keep on

52:20

saying it. Yeah. I think I did it's it.

52:22

III think I probably displayed with people. Like, now there's gonna

52:25

be a way to shift things around.

52:27

Yep. But nope. Just

52:30

gonna fuck it. I'm gonna go with it. In December two

52:32

thousand three, this is still his position

52:34

that the back party is being installed

52:36

in all the powerful positions like

52:38

god. In Iraq. Amazing. It's

52:41

it's very disconnected.

52:43

Estownishing. Yeah. What

52:45

what thirteen year old me would have been like, come

52:48

on man. And it goes to

52:50

show, like, how little the

52:52

audience sort of

52:54

cares. Yeah. I mean,

52:56

it has to be. Or or whatever.

52:58

Like, that that should be a glaring thing. This is a month's long

53:01

thing he's wrong about -- Right. -- over

53:03

and over and over and

53:05

over consistently. Right. And the reality does not

53:08

penetrate. I mean, on the other hand,

53:10

it's not like they

53:12

are necessary serially.

53:14

I mean, nobody in the the states at that

53:16

time was very well versed in,

53:18

like, here's how you tell a part the bath

53:20

party and, you know, -- True. -- it it's very easy for them to be

53:22

like, yeah, but that is the bath party. What are you

53:25

gonna say? True. No. No.

53:27

Breathe invasion. Yeah. And

53:29

what is a better cover for

53:32

putting the bath party in all these positions than

53:34

purging The board moving the bath

53:35

party. Right.

53:36

Doesn't get more brilliant to scheme than

53:38

to remove the bath party in order to

53:40

install the bath party.

53:41

Yep. So anyway Alex is right ninety

53:43

nine percent and

53:46

has been since the beginning, man. So we come to

53:48

the end of this, and we still don't have the

53:50

predictions for the coming year twenty

53:52

twenty

53:52

three, but we I'm on the

53:56

beat.

53:56

We will You will, of course, soon as will

53:58

bring you those predictions. So you can live

54:00

your life accordingly. We've gotta

54:02

we've gotta have those Right.

54:06

Otherwise, we won't know in which month

54:08

Chicago will be nuked this

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year.

54:09

Yeah. We don't know if it's gonna be a

54:12

summer of rage. A fall of rain.

54:13

It be a spring winter of discontent. Sure. All things are

54:16

possible in this situation. Yeah. So

54:18

we'll we'll keep you posted on

54:20

that. But

54:22

until we come back shortly via the

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website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledge fight dot com. Yes. We are

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also on Twitter. We are

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on Twitter to acknowledge underscore fight

54:30

Yes. We will be back. But until then, I'm I'm Leo.

54:32

I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark.

54:35

I'm thrilled to play

54:37

this great new Dan

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Archie song for Yodlee

54:42

to enjoy.

54:47

Okay. I can't give a shout. There's too many people in here.

54:49

Don't rebroadcast.

54:51

God. This is a

54:54

highway, man. I'm looking up

54:56

the road to finish a horse is a

54:58

psychic and that's the

55:00

dragon. Fuck the

55:02

horse he rode in

55:04

on. Probably

55:07

a hundred and fifty women or more as conservative. I

55:09

feel so frustrated.

55:12

Not that I never stomped anybody's

55:14

got shot. The mister Tommy is bringing

55:18

Actually, I have a

55:18

couple times. It's not too nice. How

55:22

many people do you

55:24

physically

55:24

kill? Done.

55:33

I did about North

55:35

Korean poach. Delivering

55:40

salad I went

55:44

along through a halfway

55:46

harbor in Maine. And with me, I don't know

55:48

about this and I've got He

55:50

ran the boat and I

55:53

was like, god. What is it

55:55

I'm supposed to do? And it was

55:57

like, go after Glen Black. Of that in

55:59

the middle of

56:00

it. Oh, sir. That was the comments were

56:02

made. Where's the middle of the border?

56:04

The Democrats heard us bills destroy

56:07

half our games. About ninety seven

56:10

ninety eight percent accurate.

56:14

We rarely have

56:17

technical difficulties. They bear with me in

56:20

that region. That's all.

56:22

So why is right. Why is

56:24

it? I'm still People come

56:28

out of dark early ways with girls and

56:30

wheelchairs ramming them into us. We're in

56:32

named mini your prayers. I can actually shift

56:34

citation awareness. Doctor

56:36

Psyche buffers, way more Psyche than we

56:38

are. My

56:40

blessing. He should call

56:41

the NERBA. Like, Carrie, NERBA.

56:44

Falling technology. And what

56:48

I read? The other Order arrangement. Do you know who that is?

56:50

No. I don't believe you read

56:52

my through it. Fuck it. I'm

56:54

not ready to

56:56

start to Absolutely.

57:13

It's a secan. Oh,

57:16

what? It's a can.

57:18

No. K. And

57:24

now here comes

57:26

with the sex robots. Andy and Kansas

57:28

here on the ear. Thanks for holding.

57:32

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I

57:34

love your work. I love you.