0:16

Damn, and Jordan Prime. Lettuce.

0:19

Acknowledge party dot com. It's time to break.

0:21

I have great respect for the knowledge. Like,

0:24

knowledge point. I'm chick of them posing

0:26

as if they're the good guys. Shanghai, we are

0:28

the bad guy. Technology fight. Dan,

0:30

and your knowledge fight. Need

0:36

money. Handy

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and family. Handy and

0:42

stop it. Andy and Dan. Andy and Kansas.

0:44

You and Andy. You sound

0:46

great. Andy and Kansas Sherwin here. Thanks

0:48

for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a assistant colleague

0:51

with you today, and I love world

0:53

knowledge fight. No. No. No.

0:55

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

0:57

No. No. No. No. Bye.

1:00

Hey. Welcome back. No tread up, Dan. I'm George.

1:02

Couple dudes. I'd like to sit around and worship

1:04

with the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex

1:06

Joe.

1:06

Oh, indeed we are dead. Dan. Jordan?

1:09

Dan. Jordan. I have a quick

1:10

question for you, sir. So What's your bright spot today?

1:12

My bright spot today, Jordan, is

1:15

I had some windy

1:19

Okay. Alright. I am Alright.

1:21

Did we do a gig together five years ago? Is

1:23

that what just happened?

1:24

What are you talking about? This was the last time I

1:26

when Oh. Was when you and I were.

1:29

What this is weird that you're

1:31

expecting that to be a reference that's

1:33

hot off of it. People don't catch that

1:35

one. Hot off of it. No. I'm talking to you. I don't

1:38

even remember that. That's fair. That's

1:40

the level of How did I eat Wendy's? I remember

1:42

doing some gigs with you and stuff, but I

1:44

don't remember necessarily Wendy's being

1:46

a huge part of it. So

1:49

I went to Wendy's Okay. -- I love Wendy's

1:51

Spicy Chicken sandwich. It's a fantastic

1:53

Sami. Delicious. I enjoy

1:56

the spicy chicken

1:58

nuggets. They have good spicy chicken. That's what

2:00

I'm saying. Fantastic.

2:01

So I decided to go a little off the beaten path.

2:03

Okay. They have a sandwich. Here

2:06

we go. Oh. Don't lick

2:08

not bun. What? Yes.

2:10

Hold the fucking chunk. Fried Chicken

2:13

patty. Garlic knot bun. Yes.

2:15

Fried chicken patty? Yes. Maranera.

2:18

Okay. And a block

2:20

of fried mozzarella. What?

2:23

Like a mozzarella stick patty. What is

2:25

happening? Yeah. What That's

2:27

insane. That

2:27

is a but that's a pizza sandwich.

2:30

It's like a chicken parm.

2:32

Gotcha. Like a chicken parm

2:33

But made into a, like, fast food sandwich.

2:35

For from

2:36

breakfast menu? It's good. It's good.

2:38

Of course, it's good. That's that's

2:40

fucking That's of course, it's good. It's

2:42

a disaster. It's kind of like

2:44

the famous bowl kinda

2:47

Like, you were to double down in

2:48

terms of it. It's like a egregiousness.

2:50

Whoever conceived of this is

2:52

a monster, but it was

2:54

good. Right. Right. Right. Of course. I'm not proud.

2:56

I think I think that's one of those like,

2:58

oh, you can definitely trace evolutionary

3:01

science through that because you're like, oh, there's the

3:03

only way that that a body would

3:05

appreciate this much fat as if

3:07

ten million years ago we were

3:09

fucking starving all the

3:10

time. Like, that's the only excuse for

3:13

why this sandwich works. Oh, sandwich

3:15

with a fried mozzarella steak

3:17

chunk. Oh, so good.

3:19

So

3:19

good. What's your bread? My bread spot

3:22

is Well, I mean, it's been in the

3:24

works for a while, but it's nice

3:26

to be able to say it publicly

3:27

now. Mhmm. We are going to be doing

3:29

a live

3:31

what? Ormatz. This is the challenge I'm hearing of

3:33

this. This is the yeah. Yeah. I knew I mean,

3:35

I was excited to tell you. Most of all.

3:38

We're gonna go to

3:39

Wendy's. We're gonna to Lendy's on the way there

3:41

and on the way back.

3:42

What fun? Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna do a

3:44

live show in in Milwaukee

3:47

at the x-ray arcade. What?

3:49

Yeah. Okay? Yes. It is.

3:51

It's a bing. It's a bing. It's a bing

3:53

magic. Mhmm. And the

3:55

tickets will go on sale today, Friday.

3:57

If you're listening to this at at ten AM.

4:00

Okay. So actually, a lot of people listen

4:02

to this before that.

4:03

Right. So you don't

4:04

have to wait wait until you are gonna have to wait.

4:06

You shouldn't you shouldn't listen to this before

4:08

ten AM. I think that's the lesson

4:10

here. It's a gremlins. Yes. See.

4:13

Yeah. You need to have at least three cups of coffee before

4:15

you can listen to this

4:16

show. Yeah. So we're doing that. Yeah.

4:18

What date is that? March third.

4:20

March third. I believe that's a Saturday.

4:23

Saturday, March third. Yeah. Our

4:25

show does not lend itself to a

4:27

live show. That's why we never you

4:29

well. Done many. Yeah. Other

4:31

shows do. Yeah. I mean,

4:33

I understand that people

4:35

like podcasts and they like live

4:37

podcasts.

4:37

True. What is a podcast but two

4:39

people or three people sitting around

4:41

talking.

4:41

Seems like it makes sense. Seems like people still

4:44

enjoy that somehow, but I feel very

4:46

weird. I understand. I have a I have a bit

4:48

of a discomfort about the, like,

4:50

how uncomfortable it is to

4:52

sit on a stage and press

4:54

clip. So

4:56

you know. But yeah. We we it's

4:59

time. I guess

4:59

it's a slow one. Yeah. Well, you know. We'll

5:01

do one every now and again -- Sure. -- until

5:03

we remember that we don't do those. And

5:05

it's also strange because I'm like, what the fuck

5:07

are we gonna cover? I mean, I guess,

5:09

may I I was thinking like Milwaukee is

5:12

a big beer city. Sure. Maybe you time

5:14

out Alex's drunk? That would work. I

5:16

can't randomly find that. Doesn't

5:18

seem to be enough power. We've

5:20

covered some great drunk times of

5:21

his, but we've already covered Yeah.

5:23

Yeah. The problem the problem is I

5:25

was pushing for the live show. It

5:28

seems like it should go the other

5:29

way. Right? You should be like, hey, I found a

5:31

topic that would only work for live

5:33

show and then we can do one instead of

5:35

me forcing you into state of panic. And especially

5:37

if I found something that was like, oh, this is

5:39

relevant to a certain city, we

5:41

gotta go started playing a show in Tucson.

5:43

Oh, yeah. Two years. So,

5:47

yeah, that'll be fun. That will be fun.

5:49

It'll be interesting to see you

5:52

know, like, we have a pretty dispersed

5:55

audience. Mhmm. It'll be interesting to

5:57

see

5:58

what kind of a draw we could have

6:00

in any place. Fascinated because

6:02

it very well could I could I could I could do tickets

6:04

to people to be sold at eleven ten thirty.

6:06

I have no idea. I feel like the problem

6:08

for us is other people have audiences and

6:10

places. And I think we just have ten people

6:12

in every city in the entire

6:13

world. But I think that other people who do shows

6:16

also look at some demographic information

6:19

that has ads that help them

6:21

geolocate at target

6:22

audiences. That does make sense. We don't. The

6:25

closest we have to that is me sending out buttons,

6:27

and I can generally tell you we

6:29

should be doing the

6:30

show in Scotland. It's Scotland only. Yes.

6:32

Okay.

6:32

Australia and Scotland. If

6:35

the mayor of Edinburgh is a walk,

6:37

we will go there for the key to

6:39

the city. That is what we will do.

6:41

Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on the key to it.

6:43

Nike City and Scott. Really?

6:45

It doesn't have to be ad firm. No.

6:46

It doesn't. So Jordan, yeah,

6:48

We have an episode. Indeed, we do.

6:51

So here's the situation. We've been waiting

6:53

for the twenty twenty three

6:54

predictions. And I

6:56

got fed the fuck up.

6:58

It has it's it's almost twenty twenty

7:00

four based on how long these predictions are

7:02

taking. Liz, Alex came back

7:04

to studio on Sunday. So he

7:06

was he was back in studio Sunday

7:08

evening.

7:09

Show sucked.

7:10

Yeah. But it's still covered

7:12

in twigs and stuff from the woods. Might as

7:14

well have right, promotionally twig cover.

7:16

Right. Right. Right. I'm listening. I'm

7:19

trying to find these these

7:21

these predictions. I'm

7:23

not I'm not finding them and I'm

7:25

becoming demotivated. Honestly.

7:28

Right. Right. Right. Even from a show

7:30

perspective, I'm becoming demotivated

7:32

because I'm just listening to Alex do the

7:34

same shit It's the same COVID

7:36

narratives, just repackaged.

7:39

Right. It's just a new someone on Twitter

7:41

has a new graph Oh, no. It's

7:43

the same error as all of the other

7:45

ones, and now it's a smoking bomb

7:47

show. That works. You know,

7:49

okay. Oh, great. The Bolsonaro

7:52

he he had the election stolen

7:54

just like in twenty twenty, Sherr. And so

7:56

Antifa It's

7:58

a t puggen. Well, it's the communists

8:01

on or the sway of Lula --

8:02

Sure. -- who have false flagged taking

8:05

over the capital in Brasilia. That

8:07

makes sense. Because the because the here's

8:09

why that makes sense. Because when the

8:11

antifa did it in the United

8:12

States, that worked. Mhmm. Why wouldn't

8:14

you

8:14

do it again? Right. And I

8:18

don't know. I said, it's demotivated.

8:20

Yeah. That is demotivating. I get you. And

8:22

I found myself, like,

8:24

cutting clips and I'm like, well,

8:26

here's an episode. I don't

8:28

wanna do it. I just don't wanna

8:30

do it. Right. And so so

8:34

we're doing a live show and we'll see you

8:36

in March. Shall ride everybody. And

8:39

then I I just

8:41

was like, alright, we're going back to the past. Okay. So

8:43

we're doing two thousand three. Good. We're gonna talk about

8:45

December sixteenth two thousand three.

8:47

Alright. And, hey, we're

8:49

gonna get a little bit of a fallout of

8:51

Saddam's capture. Sure. Of course. That was

8:53

where we last left behind in the past. Right? He was

8:55

in a hole. Right. So there there's

8:57

some interesting things to be learned on that

9:00

front, how that conspiracy is going to

9:02

develop. And we'll get to that. But

9:04

before we do, take a little moment to say

9:06

hello to some new walks. Oh,

9:08

that's great idea.

9:08

So first, Matt, the facts are there, but

9:10

no one even cares. Thank you so much. You're an

9:13

apology walk. I'm

9:13

a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you.

9:16

Next Chloe binge listen to all the

9:18

formulaic objections, and now her girlfriend

9:20

thinks she's objecting to her

9:21

form. In parentheses, she's mad.

9:23

Thank you so much. You're now a policywalk.

9:25

I'm

9:25

a policywalk. Thank you

9:26

very much. Thank you next. Just a little

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teeny baby. Thank you so much you're now, a policy

9:31

wonk. I'm a

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policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you.

9:33

Next, why am I being so why am I being

9:36

charged so much to live in your brain when everyone

9:38

else gets to live their rent

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free? Thank you so much. You're now a policy

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walk. I'm

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a policy walk. Thank you very much. And that's

9:43

something that has to do with Norm. Apprappabe

9:45

has been tweeting about how he's on a six

9:47

month vacation. Good for you,

9:49

Noah. Good for you, Noah. Next,

9:51

hufflepuffs for trans rights. Thank you so

9:53

much. You're now a policy wonk.

9:55

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank

9:57

you. Next cara cock. Thank

9:58

you so much. You're an hour palsy walk. I'm

10:00

a policy walk. Thank you very much. Takeout

10:03

next.

10:03

Emily, Frankie Son, and Scott's

10:05

Watch. Thank you so much. You're an hour palsy

10:07

walk. I'm a

10:07

policyholder. Thank you very much. I would watch that show.

10:10

Yeah. Yeah.

10:10

And, Amos, an aussie

10:13

man. Thank you so much. You are now a policyholder.

10:16

I'm a policy one. Thank you very much,

10:18

Deimos, an Aussie man. Or

10:20

Deimu? Maybe Deimu, that could be worse.

10:21

Yep. So also just wanted

10:24

to say nice

10:26

bit of feedback. The Sebastian

10:29

Murdoch's article in the Hopkins

10:31

post came out this morning -- Yes. -- recording.

10:33

And some folks have said some

10:36

very nice things about, hey, you

10:38

reached out to Dan.

10:39

I have read that Alex's

10:41

-- Yes. -- tech with Tucker.

10:43

Yes. And I think I

10:46

think that Sebastian's got a good handle on that.

10:48

I ain't seeing good work

10:50

over

10:50

there. Good

10:50

job, Sebastian. Yeah.

10:52

So it's fun to be friends. So

10:55

we're gonna start here and here's here's

10:57

where Alex is at. Vis à

10:59

vis. Said I'm Hussein. It's

11:01

Tuesday, the sixteenth of December

11:03

two thousand and three.

11:06

I'm Alex Jones, your host.

11:08

We're gonna be live here.

11:10

The next three hours, we will talk more

11:12

about the whole Saddam Hussein

11:14

situation and the latest developments

11:16

here politically with that that,

11:18

and then take your calls and get your

11:20

response, your insight, your

11:22

take on it. We haven't had

11:24

Paul Joseph Watson of prison plan dot

11:26

com. My webmaster and researcher

11:28

on in a few weeks. We've got him coming on

11:30

in the second hour to talk about the

11:33

Saddam situation and, of course, may

11:35

mainstream headlines that MI6 may

11:37

have been involved in the murder of

11:40

princess Diana? Oh,

11:42

shit. Wait.

11:45

Oh, shit. Okay. Hold

11:47

on. Are these two things

11:49

connected? No. We got Princess

11:51

Diana

11:51

News, got a bridge in our British

11:54

prison planet

11:55

guy -- Of course. -- we got the the p

11:57

dyer news. Yeah. I gotcha. And then we've

11:59

got this opposite opposite situation. And III

12:02

do think that it's probably the

12:04

most worthless exercise to spend

12:06

your time taking calls from

12:08

Alex's

12:08

listeners. What's your take on this. That

12:10

was my question. What take could you possibly

12:12

have?

12:12

What good is it gonna do to helping

12:15

you understand the situation to talk

12:17

to people who have been listening to

12:19

you? Yeah. I here's

12:21

here's my take. I think

12:23

he's not him. Mhmm. It's false

12:24

flag. There are some interesting takes.

12:27

I mean, not helpful, but they're interesting.

12:29

We'll we'll hear those over the course of this episode.

12:31

But there's something that happened

12:34

or something that Alex brought up

12:36

that may me remember where we were in

12:38

time --

12:38

Okay. -- that made me very excited.

12:40

Okay. Because

12:41

I had forgotten about this. US.

12:43

And look, I mean, Howard

12:46

Dean, George W. Bush, doesn't it matter who wins

12:48

the election folks? There all

12:51

globalist, the same agenda, gun control,

12:53

open borders, more NAFTA and

12:55

gout. It's all the same stuff.

12:57

At

12:58

this point, Howard Dean was the

13:00

front runner. He was -- Oh

13:02

my god. -- he was the presiderative person

13:05

who was probably going to be a democratic

13:07

candidate.

13:07

Yeah. That

13:08

doesn't do the yell until

13:10

January. That was the last time

13:12

a progressive candidate really felt

13:14

like we had a shot. That was

13:16

that was the

13:17

one. And then he went, yeah. And

13:19

that was it. No. You

13:20

all He are a month away from that

13:22

at this point. So now that's given me some

13:24

juice to stay

13:25

home. How's he gonna

13:26

cover Howard Dean screaming? I'm

13:28

never I'm never going to Probably

13:29

gonna be such a scandal. I'm never gonna be

13:32

able to handle living in

13:34

my lifetime and having gone

13:36

through Howard Dean just

13:37

going, yeah, and his campaign

13:39

fucking ending. So

13:40

be fair. It was a pretty wild scream.

13:42

It was

13:43

a pretty wild scream. I will admit

13:45

that. I will I will admit that. We're

13:47

gonna get the nitty gritty on that. We're

13:49

gonna dig deep into that screen

13:51

when it comes up in

13:53

January on Alex's

13:54

show. But for now, There

13:56

is something to the uulation of that

13:58

scream that is specific and unique.

14:00

Oh, we're gonna be

14:01

looking at decibel levels. Yes. We're

14:03

gonna be looking at

14:04

wave form. Here's the dynamic range

14:06

here. What is it about this

14:09

that terrified the water? I think what

14:11

happened was he reached eighty

14:13

four hundred her And that was just

14:15

too much for the old people. You know, they

14:17

can't hear that high normally. And then he

14:19

got that the end. Yep. That's the way it

14:21

happened. That's a good theory.

14:22

Yep. So there are some people out

14:24

there in the world who are

14:26

questioning -- Sure. -- stuff about the

14:28

Saddam capture. Yeah. Some of these people

14:30

are weirdos like Alex. Sure.

14:32

Then some of them are in the halls of power. Okay.

14:35

Washington, congressman, question,

14:38

Saddam, timing.

14:39

This is out of the associated press. The

14:42

Washington Congressman who criticized president

14:44

Bush while visiting Baghdad last year

14:46

has questioned the timing of the capture

14:48

of the opposed Iraqi president,

14:50

Saddam Hussein. Representative

14:52

Jim McDermott, Democrat from Washington

14:54

State, hold a Seattle radio station

14:56

Monday, US military could

14:58

have on a long time ago. They

15:00

wanted to ask if he thought the

15:02

weekend capture was time to

15:04

help Bush, McDermott, chuckle, and

15:06

said, yes, Oh, yeah. The

15:08

Democrat congressmen went on to say there's

15:10

too much. My husband stands for

15:12

it to be just a coincidental thing

15:15

that interviewed Dave Ross asked again if he

15:17

meant to imply that Bush administration

15:19

timed the capture for political reasons when

15:21

government said, I don't know that it

15:23

was Definitely planned on the weekend, but I

15:25

know they've been in contact with people

15:27

all along who knew basically where

15:29

he was. It was just a matter of

15:31

time till they find

15:33

him. It's funny McDermott

15:35

added when they've been having all this

15:37

trouble. Suddenly, they have to roll out

15:39

something later in that same article

15:42

says, quote, McDermott, in a

15:44

telephone interview with the Associated Press,

15:46

called the timing of Saddam's capture

15:48

suspicious but said he was not alleging it

15:50

had been intentionally delayed. Yeah. Of course.

15:52

Basically, he was saying, hey, man. I'm just

15:54

talking shit here. Yeah. Yeah. Just I'm

15:56

just talking shit. I

15:57

mean, yeah, that was that's the one where

15:59

it's like, if you're gonna do that, that

16:01

way, madness. Any anything

16:03

could oh, it's so suspicious time.

16:05

The man was in a hole for what

16:08

months? Yeah. Of

16:09

course, the timing was suspicious. Finding him

16:11

in a hole is always gonna be suspicious.

16:13

No matter what time. Yeah. No matter what time. Now

16:15

other thing is you have, like, this

16:17

McDermott, you have some other comments

16:20

from folks who

16:20

are, like, yeah, we're pretty close to finding

16:23

Saddam, we think. It'll

16:23

-- Yeah. -- and this is turned into,

16:25

like, them prescripting it.

16:28

Sure. Sure. But, you know, ahead of

16:29

time, hey, we're about

16:30

to find this. Right. Right. I

16:31

suppose just being like, yeah, we've looked at some intelligence.

16:34

We have some good leads. Yeah. We got some updates.

16:36

Yeah. Yeah. Like, any

16:37

detective would give you. So he Alex is

16:39

taking stuff like that and turning it into, like,

16:41

there was four knowledge of course. And that

16:43

means that they had him on

16:44

ice. Right. No. Mean, by that

16:46

logic, anytime a police department

16:48

catches a murderer, it's because they were the

16:50

murderer.

16:50

Right. Whenever

16:51

they give press conferences about how they have some

16:53

leads that they're developing. Yep. Oh.

16:55

They've been murdering. Oh. You guys

16:57

been murdering out there. I

16:58

see you. I see you.

17:00

Alex has taught us to read the king of

17:02

lines, man. It's

17:03

helped us. Yeah. Felt

17:05

this a great deal. So look --

17:07

Yeah. -- there's some things that you need to consider

17:09

-- Okay. -- about this sedan

17:11

character that they found in this whole I

17:13

heard he's a bad Well, definitely. Okay. But

17:16

you have to think about the

17:18

appearance of this person. Right?

17:20

Well, he looks like was in a hole.

17:22

He did. I'm part of that was his big

17:25

beard. Right. But also, maybe

17:27

that beard was

17:27

suspicious. By the

17:28

way, it's being pointed out that

17:31

Shaddam's beard

17:31

sir. And

17:32

again, the the average person can

17:35

grow a beard that long in about a year or

17:37

longer.

17:37

That makes sense. I typical. Twice

17:39

as fast.

17:40

You

17:40

know?

17:40

Half an inch or quarters of an

17:43

inch a month. He he had a six

17:45

inch beard folks. He was supposedly

17:47

videotaped after the globalist took over,

17:49

Iraq running around without a beard just

17:51

with his mustache. So that's three and

17:53

a half months. How did he

17:55

grow that huge beard? And why is the beard

17:58

gray right up to

18:00

his temples? Because, folks,

18:02

I've seen a million beards. So of

18:04

you, if somebody gonna have gray solid

18:06

gray up to their

18:06

temples, and it's not gonna turn black

18:09

suddenly at the temple right

18:11

up to the top of his head. But

18:13

his his head is black with no

18:16

gray in it, and then suddenly you get to his

18:18

beard and it turns gray.

18:19

Just instantly. I do not

18:22

find this compelling This

18:24

is not quite the Zipwruiter film.

18:26

This is a little bit

18:28

less. Now let's assume

18:30

a beard growth of two

18:32

x. Gray

18:34

and to the left.

18:37

Gray and to the left. I don't

18:39

know. I mean, I I feel

18:41

like I've seen those pictures. He is a pretty big

18:43

beard, but also, I'm somebody

18:45

who always has had, like, pretty

18:47

quick hair growth just in

18:49

general. Oh, yeah. No. You're absurd. I

18:51

don't find it to be that weird that he have

18:53

that bigger beard. And also the I don't think

18:55

it's that weird to have like salt and pepper

18:57

areas. No. Absolutely not. Alex

18:59

is pretending that it's like Santa

19:01

white beer -- Oh, tote. -- and then it's a

19:03

black up top, and it that's not accurate

19:05

at all. No. And it's

19:07

not like he couldn't have

19:09

died. Something. No. No. We've had the opportunity

19:11

in the hole. It makes him it makes the most

19:13

sense for him to die. Right. He's he's a

19:15

guy who dyed his hair for

19:17

sure. Like, that's that's easy to easy

19:19

to to take that leap of

19:21

of logic there. But nothing in that

19:23

is is convincing. To

19:25

me that this is Wait. What

19:27

is the what is the ultimate

19:30

end of this? Well, that's

19:30

my question. It's not him.

19:33

Right? I mean, like, if you're saying that he couldn't have

19:35

possibly grown a beard long enough -- Right. --

19:37

in the time since he was last

19:39

spotted -- Right. -- or whatever. Right.

19:42

Then you'd have to say that either the person who

19:44

you spotted previously isn't really him

19:46

-- Correct. -- or the person who they captured wasn't

19:48

really him. Right. Are the

19:50

only two conclusions here. Or the one

19:52

they captured was wearing a fake beard for some

19:54

reason. Right. There is there

19:57

is some tossing around that

19:59

possibility. Right.

19:59

But that seems utterly

20:02

insane of all the things for that man

20:04

to do. Well, but they also, like,

20:06

the the people who him shaved

20:08

him fairly quickly after --

20:09

Sure. Sure. -- down to his

20:12

mustache. Oh. Wait. They left him

20:14

about

20:14

mustache. Yeah. I guess that's

20:17

polite. Sure. Is that polite? Yeah.

20:18

Let him have his dignity with the most most stab.

20:20

I mean, I suppose. I'm only gonna pronounce it

20:22

that way from now.

20:23

That's the only way to pronounce it. Mhmm.

20:25

So I'm noticing in December two

20:28

thousand three, a bit of a

20:30

consistent

20:30

pattern. Very, very strong trend

20:33

that this happens every day. The

20:35

lady that takes those orders down

20:37

and sends them out to here in

20:39

Texas. She's Debbie Marro, and to tell

20:41

you how the new Black Burger

20:43

made America Works. And what

20:45

these systems can do for you is

20:47

Debbie. I did W. Thanks for being on the show with

20:49

us. Hi

20:49

there,

20:49

Alex. Thanks for having me. You bet.

20:52

His water sponsor is on every

20:54

day. The water filter people are

20:56

on for

20:57

a bit of paid programming -- Yeah. -- every day.

20:59

Looks like they put a lot of put more

21:01

than fifteen to twenty k down. Well, yeah.

21:05

But, again, It's clear.

21:07

Yeah. It is clear. It's true. This is

21:09

a sponsor. That's true. It

21:11

is trying to drive

21:12

sales. There no deception about

21:15

it. But boy, is it every day?

21:17

That's you know what? I suppose that's the

21:19

real question there. Is at

21:21

what point was it a point? Did

21:23

they try it one time where they're like, what if we

21:25

just don't say that it it's brokered? And

21:27

then it never got

21:29

bad and so they just kept doing it? Or did they,

21:31

like, decide, like, this is when

21:33

we're going to stop saying that it's

21:35

brokered programming

21:36

or, like, Was it just random?

21:39

Like, what happened? Well, an interesting

21:41

wrinkle from the

21:43

Tim Prusier deposition stuff

21:45

is that he wasn't around two

21:47

thousand three. Sure wasn't around this early. No.

21:49

So this this time predates any

21:52

of that that

21:54

possible pay to play kind

21:56

of dynamic. That he would know about. Yeah.

21:58

Yeah. And and I don't think that Alex

22:00

has enough juice at this point

22:03

to to demand a fifteen thousand color.

22:05

No. No. No. No. No.

22:07

No. For an appearance. So but I

22:09

I'm just saying it's pretty

22:10

consistent. It's pretty regular, and it's getting

22:13

annoying. Yeah. I believe it. They don't have

22:15

the goods. No. Oh,

22:16

no. We wanna filter sports. Aren't

22:18

aren't also a brilliant impromptu performers?

22:21

No. So we had a

22:23

beard conspiracy. Yes. A beard

22:25

conspiracy. Of course. And now we have

22:27

another eye spirits

22:28

see. Watch

22:29

on your mind today, Cliff? Well, you know, I've

22:31

just been kinda watching these little videos

22:33

they have on the news channels

22:36

of this of

22:38

the the

22:38

dom. And I

22:39

think from looking at his

22:42

mannerisms and the scenario that it might

22:44

be him, but I don't know if they just

22:46

found him in the

22:46

hole. I think they've probably had him Do you know him

22:48

well enough for his mannerisms to realize

22:50

your problem?

22:53

Number one, that ADMIT HE HAD AT LEAST TEN BODY DOUBLES. I

22:55

HAVE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM EIGHT MONTHS AGO

22:57

WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT

23:00

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. Seven number

23:02

ten, sedan. Number three,

23:04

sedan. And so we say it looks like

23:05

sedan. That's because we've seen the

23:08

doubles so many times or is it

23:10

really sedan?

23:11

Then they point

23:11

out that Saddam had

23:14

dark black eyes. This

23:16

guy has light brown

23:19

eyes. Green

23:22

eyes. Almost green

23:24

eyes.

23:24

Okay. Okay?

23:26

Look. What are we what are we saying here? We're saying

23:29

this isn't him. Right?

23:30

Right. It has to be.

23:31

He has different eyes. If

23:32

he has different eyes, it cannot be him.

23:34

He has different eyes and an impossible beard.

23:37

That

23:37

is and so so either he

23:39

has got a a thick beard

23:42

and contacts on, or it

23:44

is not him. And do you see the hand gestures

23:46

when he speaks? Do you see the way

23:48

he walks? I This is not I I swear to

23:50

you. I my my

23:52

wife. I would not be like, uh-uh.

23:54

That's not the mannerisms of my wife.

23:56

I that's it. Manorisms.

23:58

I'm not gonna try and identify somebody

24:00

based on their

24:00

mannerisms, especially if I've always seen them

24:02

on TV. Oh, no. These people

24:05

intimately knows them.

24:05

Intimately knows the dom.

24:07

Yeah. So it seems it feels like

24:09

he always raises his right

24:10

hand whenever he drinks tea. Obviously. He is

24:12

well known. Yes. For the Well known.

24:14

An intimate circle. So

24:17

you could get a sense that

24:19

the the point that's being driven at

24:21

here is that it's not so bad. But

24:23

they're not saying that. They're not saying

24:25

that, which seems difficult, but

24:28

it's it's hard to figure out what another

24:30

conclusion would be from

24:32

these spiracies and these

24:34

pieces of information that they're

24:37

pretending are important. I'm gonna throw this out at

24:39

you. Here's my conspiracy. Alright. We

24:41

know that Saddam has ten body

24:43

doubles at least. Sure. Right?

24:45

So what if at a certain point

24:47

of time, Saddam went to

24:50

each body double was like, okay, I'm

24:52

gonna pick the best features

24:54

from each one of my body

24:56

doubles and then put them on my face to

24:58

become the perfect

24:59

sedan. That's interesting. Now, what about

25:01

this for a comparison? Saddam doesn't

25:03

have body doubles, but he

25:06

likes to play dress up as

25:08

things that are very close to

25:10

himself. Okay. Okay. Okay. So

25:12

he's he's like doing it's like

25:14

a Halloween costume, but yourself.

25:16

Of of himself. Yes. Yeah. And

25:18

he really enjoys that. And so in

25:20

order to not look weird, everyone has to

25:22

say that he has a bunch of bodybuilding Like like if

25:24

Ken Griffin Junior was on the red dead. He

25:26

went to Halloween wearing a a mariners

25:29

jersey. That's that's the type of

25:31

situation you're talking about

25:31

here. May beep or with, like,

25:34

just a slightly different nose

25:36

or something, you know, like, or

25:37

like, I don't know,

25:40

eyebrows that are a little different or

25:42

something You just saved a

25:42

little white stripe in his

25:44

arm, but just a

25:45

little different -- Yeah. Yeah. -- just to

25:46

see. That was Saddam's quirk.

25:49

Are you gonna wear a are you gonna wear a

25:51

Halloween costume this year?

25:54

Maybe. Mhmm. My body double will be

25:57

coming into a party.

25:59

So everybody has to act like it's

26:02

not him. Like, this is bottling up a

26:04

dictate. Oh my god. It's so good.

26:06

Did not have to talk to Sid dumb

26:08

around you. Sadam's body

26:10

double. You're so chill

26:12

compared to

26:12

him. He's up tight. So

26:16

one of favorite Yeah. -- for many years. And I haven't

26:18

watched it in a while, but I still I think

26:20

I'd still like it. Waking life.

26:23

Great movie. I enjoy unlike

26:26

movies where people are just

26:27

talking. It's it's a lot of talking.

26:29

Yeah. It's a big talking. Uh-huh.

26:32

I enjoy sort

26:34

of the the lucid dreaming aspect

26:36

of it. I like the kind of some of

26:38

the ideas that are being thrown around or

26:41

fun ideas to think

26:42

about. And of course, Alex Jones

26:44

is in it. Right.

26:45

That is not quite on the

26:47

top of your list. I don't

26:48

know if it's the first time I ever

26:51

saw Alex Jones, but it very

26:53

well might be. I'd

26:53

see these topics. I remember the first time

26:55

I saw waking life, and I didn't see the

26:58

person in the car screaming. And be like,

27:00

that's Alex Jones. Yeah. So I wouldn't

27:02

be like I wouldn't know his mannerisms.

27:06

Right. At that point. Right. But he

27:08

has probably the

27:10

most operious

27:13

segment in the in the movie.

27:15

There's a lot of scenes that

27:17

are Wiley Wiggans just talking

27:19

to somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

27:21

they're talking about, like,

27:23

human psychology -- Sure. --

27:25

or stuff like that. And Alex is

27:27

driving around with a bullhorn yelling

27:30

about how humanity is gonna

27:32

make it because they're too good.

27:34

Yeah. And so it's

27:36

definitely a different feel from the rest of

27:38

the movie.

27:38

Be. Yeah. I I remember seeing the movie

27:40

when I was younger. And

27:44

obviously, you take note of the crazy

27:46

screaming guy, but it wasn't until, like, literally I

27:48

mean, into a a few

27:50

months of us doing the show that I was

27:52

like, oh, shit, you're right. That was

27:55

Alex fucking Jones. Yeah. I'm waking

27:57

life.

27:57

Mhmm. Crazy. Yeah. I saw

28:00

the the rag tag cinema cafe

28:02

in Columbia, Missouri -- Mhmm. -- back

28:05

when it was a really,

28:07

like, small fucking

28:09

theater that had, like, thrown

28:12

together secondhand chairs

28:14

Oh. Yeah. That was your indie

28:15

movie theater kind of place. Yeah. Drew a

28:18

bit towards the end of my time there. And I'm sure

28:20

it's still, you know, what

28:22

but it also And that like, it grew to the point where

28:24

it had, like, a full bar -- Sure. -- and

28:27

everything. But, yeah, at this

28:27

point, it was just the room. Just

28:30

just

28:30

a church basement. Yeah.

28:32

And so that's where I saw a waking life. But anyway --

28:35

Yeah. -- Alex, sure.

28:38

Maybe one of the

28:39

is seen stealing situation. No one's gonna

28:42

argue. But here here's what he has to say

28:44

about his star turn in a

28:46

waking

28:46

life. And it's like

28:47

you said in the the waking life.

28:50

It's

28:50

all a

28:50

big buff that lies, and I'm not

28:53

eating it. Yeah. Take

28:55

last.

28:55

Well, thanks, Alex. You're doing a great service to

28:57

the country. Hey, I appreciate

28:59

you, my friend. Yeah. For

29:02

those that don't know, you know, I never

29:04

tried be in a Hollywood movie, but it was a Fox Searchlight Production.

29:06

And the director called

29:08

me up or Richard Linkler, and he

29:10

said, hey, you wanna be in a movie and they

29:14

they say according to the

29:16

news article, whose article was

29:18

that it was that Evert

29:20

guy that my

29:22

my my scene at the film festivals

29:24

against cancellations. I know that here in Austin when

29:26

they showed it, but that that that was a lot of fun

29:28

being in that movie. And, yeah, it's

29:31

my bet rest rant ever in that film

29:33

and it's got Ethan Hawk in it and a

29:35

bunch of other people as

29:36

well, but I wanna get off into discussions

29:38

of movies. It's is debateably his

29:40

best rant

29:41

ever. Fine. I mean,

29:42

yeah. Yeah. But

29:45

also, like, I just I find it

29:47

difficult to imagine that that would get

29:49

standing ovations at festivals

29:51

or at theaters for a couple

29:52

reasons. One, it's in the middle of

29:54

the movie is a big problem. Yeah.

29:56

Yeah. Second,

29:57

I think that the crowd

30:00

that's drawn to waking life

30:02

is not going to necessarily

30:05

the kind of crowd that gets riled

30:08

up. No. You know, it's it's a

30:10

smoothie kind of maybe

30:15

calm intellectual type

30:17

audience generally that's gonna be attracted to

30:19

a movie where, hey, what happens in

30:20

it? People talk to each

30:22

other. Their most violent tendencies tend towards the

30:25

scathing

30:25

word. I would be what one

30:26

might say. I would be more prone to believe

30:29

that you get a standing ovation for

30:31

the scene where Ethan Hawkins, Julie

30:32

Delphi, reprising their characters

30:35

from before Sunrise. Yes. Yeah.

30:36

Yeah. I believe that. And one hundred percent

30:39

believe that. Yes. One hundred percent.

30:41

That seems

30:41

to be or the speed leveraged

30:43

scene. Right. That's gonna be more likely to get

30:45

to the standard ovations right now.

30:48

Bunch of bunch of dorks. And

30:50

I say that in with all kinds of I

30:52

was

30:52

gonna say, you you would be in there. You would be

30:54

hanging out with them dorks -- Yeah. -- probably. No.

30:57

So anyway, we get some calls, some more calls.

30:59

Another guy's got a theory.

31:01

KC,

31:01

you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

31:04

Go ahead. Ed.

31:05

Thanks, Alex. God bless you. I

31:07

appreciate your call. What's on your mind?

31:09

Well, I just

31:10

like to caution everybody first of all when there's

31:12

this many lip moving about any something funny.

31:16

And, you know, all

31:18

these things with them. To

31:21

me, I think that none of them are

31:23

him. I mean,

31:24

they're just playing

31:24

the shell game with these photographs. If you

31:27

look

31:27

at the ones

31:28

that they just showed with the beard and and

31:30

the one with out the beard next to

31:32

him. It

31:33

looks like that face was built around

31:35

those eyes. Okay.

31:39

Well well, let me say this. There's

31:41

no real discussion other than Dan Rothers

31:43

saying hours after the announcement Sunday morning that

31:45

this is him. We've done DNA testing.

31:47

We've proven it. Dental records, then it came out. The

31:49

government never said that. So Dan rather was just

31:52

making that up. Yep.

31:54

And Lips Removing. Yeah. His lips

31:56

Removing. And and then we add to this all

31:58

the lies they've told us in the past. This is

32:00

this is fun. Here's a new conspiracy. Yeah.

32:03

There is no sense. I've got there's

32:05

only body

32:05

doubles. No one's

32:06

ever seen the real

32:08

sedan. Yeah. He's like blow

32:10

failed. He died maybe to me.

32:12

Yeah.

32:12

Exactly. He's still driven body

32:15

Oh, yes. He's a god damn so say. It's

32:17

what's going on here. And to check-in on what

32:19

Alex is saying here, they did take DNA

32:21

samples when Saum was captured, and

32:23

he also straight I've just admitted

32:26

that's a

32:26

Yeah.

32:26

I mean, why why not at that point.

32:28

Yeah. Yeah. By December fourteenth, the

32:31

president of the Iraqi governing council

32:34

ABDELA ZEE'S ALCIMM HAD

32:36

ANNOUNCED THAT THE DNIEST HAD CONFIRMED THAT

32:38

SADOM WAS IN FACT, SADOM. THERE

32:40

WAS TWO DAYS before this episode that

32:42

we're listening to. Eric, Alex is saying that

32:44

it was just Dan Rather making

32:46

stuff up.

32:46

Just Dan Rather making it up. Yeah. You know you

32:48

know how old Dan used to be. Cumber

32:50

fuck around Alex. I I've I've

32:52

never been able to get over there, and it's

32:54

a Macab thought. It's a Macau thought, but I've

32:56

never been able to get over the idea

32:59

of somebody just knowing

33:01

where Saddam was and then just

33:03

being like, backing up a

33:05

giant trailer of dirt and just

33:07

dropping it over there and just being like,

33:09

I never seen the

33:09

guy. No idea where he is. And then we just

33:12

never find out. You

33:12

were right. That is a Macab. It's

33:14

a Macab thought,

33:15

but it's like the idea of never finding

33:17

Saddam because he was in the whole

33:19

underground that somebody almost

33:22

accidentally just paved over

33:24

is insane to me. You you yeah. But

33:26

you kinda think that eventually that

33:28

story would come out. Sure. Or have you told

33:30

eventually? Yeah. Yeah. You'd never be I don't think you'd ever be able

33:33

to to be a legend that will

33:35

never be

33:35

solved. No. I know. It's but I mean, you know,

33:37

it's kind of like the

33:39

that modern version of Jamie

33:42

Cooper? No. When they found King Charlemagne's

33:44

bones in like a in like a parking

33:46

garage in the in the UK or whatever it was, I don't

33:48

know if charlemagne or whatever. But it was

33:50

it was an old, like, six hundred a d

33:52

kinda no.

33:52

No. No. No. You misunderstand. They

33:55

found a boot legs copy of the

33:57

steely van.

33:58

Charlemagne. Okay. Not my bad. My bad.

34:01

We we went we went

34:03

different Charlemagne. Don't get shown to

34:05

me. And I'm don't get to throw

34:07

the

34:07

back. That's the way to do it. That's a

34:09

good song. Yep. Maybe Let's

34:12

not go crazy. So

34:14

there's some big

34:15

news, man, on the legislative

34:17

front. Okay. We

34:18

know that Alex is opposed to the pay

34:21

Patriot Act. He's opposed to Patriot Act two, which

34:23

didn't exist. But apparently, it does.

34:25

Oh, no. It does now. It

34:28

got saw Oh, no. Bush signed Patriot Act two this

34:29

weekend. Did you know

34:32

Patriot

34:32

that from Ron Paul

34:33

yesterday and never even got to

34:35

it? That's gonna coming

34:37

up upon watching. I find it

34:40

completely impossible to believe that

34:42

Patriot X2 got

34:43

signed. Alec forgot to get to it on yesterday's show.

34:46

Hey, listen. You know,

34:47

sometimes we were busy. We were

34:49

talking about other stuff one

34:51

of the most singular obsessions of

34:54

my show is I

34:56

just

34:56

forgot. No. But that's how that's how many

34:58

bodied of Saddam there are.

35:00

That's why they caught him when they

35:02

did, so they could sign Patriot Act too

35:04

without Alex having the time. Do you

35:06

think that would be the exact conspiracy you

35:09

would go. It's right there. It's on

35:11

the table. And it's not really. That's

35:13

insane. Yeah. That is that is

35:15

really strange. So we got a caller

35:17

here, and he has he does

35:19

some street team work for

35:20

Alex. Does -- Okay. -- promotional work.

35:23

Okay. And this kinda bum me out.

35:25

Let's talk to John in Texas. John good to

35:26

hear from you. Hey, Alex. How are you doing?

35:30

Fantastic. Good. First of all,

35:32

God bless you, man. I listen to you all the

35:34

time, and I print out stuff

35:36

from various websites and

35:38

yours include putting years in a prison

35:40

planet, and I handed out to people when they don't

35:42

give me, and they inevitably get

35:45

really quiet. Yep. They do. They Yes.

35:47

They do. He is presenting this, like, A0I stunned them in

35:50

silence with my truth. Maybe

35:52

there was,

35:54

like, end of us communicating.

35:56

Yeah. They get real quiet because

35:58

they don't want it, Tom. They don't want it to

36:00

be ever again. Yeah. They get

36:03

real quiet. I wouldn't tell the story this way.

36:06

No. No. No. No. No. No. I

36:08

mean, that's that's a little

36:10

bit like Okay. I

36:12

wore my I wore my clan outfit

36:14

to the BAT awards and they got

36:16

real

36:16

quiet. Real quiet. It's like, well, yes, they

36:18

yes, they did, sir. Answer yourself why.

36:20

Yeah. Yeah.

36:20

So Paul Joseph Watson comes

36:23

along. Uh-huh. And he joins

36:25

Alex for a little bit. They

36:27

end up taking some walls together -- Okay. --

36:29

which we'll get to. But he also has a warning to

36:31

the people who are

36:33

speculating about Saddam.

36:35

Paul, what's your take on

36:38

the situation? Well,

36:40

first off, Alex, I think a lot of

36:42

people being light up with and pass

36:44

on one issue and we need to sort of amputate completely a

36:47

line of inquiry that is serving

36:49

as a distraction and there's

36:51

a lot of the disinformation on it already.

36:53

And that is the yes. It

36:55

is the real inverted commerce

36:58

sedan, who's saying it's not a

36:59

billable. And then I've been receiving dozens of emails

37:02

saying, compare the nose,

37:04

compare the ears. Stop it.

37:05

Telling me it's not him, the

37:08

historical. It's I know it's the same

37:10

man and some are saying that you can't do a

37:12

DNA test that quickly when in

37:14

fact if you have

37:16

everything prepared had

37:16

before, and then he can finish a DNA test in twelve hours, so he the

37:19

other one. All I said, Paul, was, is that

37:21

we

37:21

know he had at

37:24

least ten bubbles, so it's okay to ask that

37:26

question. Yeah. And that's all we're doing

37:27

at the moment. Because as I said,

37:29

I mean, expect something to

37:31

come out of major smoking good in the next three

37:34

weeks or

37:34

so, which will confirm it either way.

37:38

Yeah. So Paul is saying that we need to

37:40

amputate this line of

37:42

questioning about it being a different person

37:44

because this is Saddam. Yeah.

37:46

It's nonsense. These people who are

37:48

questioning all this stuff. And

37:50

also, you can do a DNA

37:52

test

37:53

that quickly. Basically, honking all of the things that Everything that

37:55

Alex has been saying. Everything

37:55

that Alex himself has been saying. And then Alex is

37:58

like, hey, now. Hold on. There's a bunch of body

38:00

doubles, so

38:02

we can make questions about this. And Paul's like, hey, you bet you can.

38:04

And what is he

38:06

even doing?

38:07

It is it

38:10

is hard not to think, like, well, I mean, you can ask question. Like,

38:12

if I was if I was

38:12

Paula, I'd be like, yes, you can ask questions. I'm

38:15

giving you the answers. Yeah. The after

38:17

you get the answers, the question time is done.

38:19

I'm giving you the the answers to these

38:21

questions, and I'm also gonna tell you

38:23

that continuing to go down these line

38:25

of questions, make you look like an

38:28

idiot. Yeah. And it seems like you

38:30

wanna continue going down those lines. Hey, Paul,

38:32

did I tell you about his

38:34

beard? Great. No.

38:36

I get that. I get that. But it is well,

38:39

okay. Well, technologically, we will

38:41

end up in the same

38:42

place, Alex. Do you understand this? It seems

38:44

like neither of them have much of backbone in

38:47

terms of, like, where they stand

38:49

-- Yeah. -- on on these conspiracies.

38:51

Yeah. Paul comes in appearing

38:54

to have have one. Right.

38:55

Then gets cowed by Alex. Of course, you can ask questions, and that's all we're doing right

38:57

now. We're just asking questions again. There is

38:59

an answer. It's Adam. It's

39:02

Adam. Yep.

39:03

So we get another call, and this guy

39:05

has some thoughts about

39:08

Texas. Tom and

39:08

Colorado. Tom, welcome, sir. Thank you.

39:11

Good

39:11

morning, gentlemen. Alex, it's a nice

39:13

better talk to you. This is

39:14

probably a little off topic, but I've only

39:17

been a short time listener. You may have covered this in

39:19

the past, but I was wondering

39:21

if you've

39:22

ever done any investigation on our

39:23

income tax system

39:24

and the fact that maybe it does

39:27

Yeah. I had former IRS

39:30

agents, treasury agents. They never ratified the

39:32

sixteenth amendment -- Mhmm. -- by the

39:34

collection agency for the Federal Reserve. Ron

39:36

Paul has said that yes.

39:39

I've done about a hundred on it. Yeah. Alex is, you

39:40

know, fully on the they didn't

39:43

ratify. How do they not ratify

39:46

amendments?

39:47

This is just a big tax

39:50

protester conspiracy or text

39:52

denier

39:53

conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah.

39:55

So that's fun.

39:56

How how he

39:57

might as well he's he's right in

39:59

line with, like, sovereign citizens. Sure. Sure.

40:01

Sure. And the Fed

40:02

was only passed by three senators

40:05

all of

40:05

that stuff. Wayne Paul would have you know. Right.

40:07

I would like a further

40:10

explanation of exactly how the sequence

40:12

of events occurred that an amendment to the fucking

40:14

constitution --

40:14

Mhmm. -- was ratified without actually

40:16

being ratified. Well, it has to

40:19

do with like some weird technicality about,

40:21

like, oh, the language is slightly there's

40:24

allegations of that. I looked into this

40:26

a while back when, like, Red Beckman

40:28

was on the

40:30

show. Yeah. It's all nonsense. I'm so annoyed by that idea.

40:32

That that's the problem. That's what movies

40:34

have done to people's brains as they've

40:36

they've convinced them that there's

40:40

a last second technicality that will solve all

40:42

problems. Yeah. If you just think

40:44

about it hard enough. Uh-huh. He couldn't have

40:46

been

40:46

there. His shoe was left

40:49

untied. Like, if that's all you need. All mystery shows. Oh,

40:50

yeah. All pop shows. Yeah.

40:53

Yep. Terrible. So

40:55

we Alex gets another call, and this guy I thought was

40:58

going in an interesting direction. I think

41:00

you'll think that too.

41:02

Don't

41:03

get too excited. Kenneth

41:04

in South

41:05

Carolina. You're on the air. Go ahead. Alex, I'm listening

41:07

to you a great deal, and I enjoy

41:09

your broadcast. But the last time I called

41:11

in, you said that unemployment

41:13

in this country is sixteen

41:16

percent And the official

41:18

figure, when I read the Wall Street Journal all the

41:20

time, I read it customers -- Yeah.

41:22

--

41:22

business daily. Those are the leading business

41:26

newspapers.

41:26

They reported just recently that

41:28

unemployment is point nine percent.

41:30

Okay. I

41:31

said that

41:32

they say unemployment is

41:34

six percent. That's right.

41:36

Okay. But they only count who is

41:38

on the unemployment rolls. When you

41:40

go off the

41:41

rolls, that's not put into the

41:44

statistic. Can

41:45

you me over. Sure. We'll

41:46

talk about it on the other side. So

41:48

this made me

41:49

think that this guy is confronting

41:51

Alex about his misinformation

41:54

about I

41:54

mean, he reads the Wall Street Journal all the

41:56

time. Right. They have told him the truth

41:58

and you can tell from Alex's response

42:00

that he's getting defensive. Immediate.

42:04

His understanding is that this guy is calling me out on my

42:06

shit. Right. And so he knows I've gotta defend

42:08

myself. Yeah. So they come back from

42:11

break. And The caller is agreeing with Alex. What?

42:14

This Alex, what? Alex himself

42:16

is confused. We're talking

42:18

on my shelf and Paul Watson. We're talking

42:21

to Kenneth and North Carolina. Kenneth, when you heard the

42:23

show the other day, I I clearly stated that they

42:26

claim unemployment at six

42:28

percent, but that

42:30

even in the past, aft,

42:32

it's always conservatively double that because it's whoever's gone off

42:35

the rolls, that is how they calculate

42:37

it. And the numbers I've gotten

42:39

are fifteen to seven seventeen

42:41

percent depending on what alternative

42:43

economist you're looking at. I know

42:45

on my street where I live, a lot of people

42:47

are unemployed, a lot large percentage

42:49

of people are taking two or three

42:52

service jobs that have been so in

42:54

the some of the

42:55

statistics, they'll count a person working two jobs

42:57

as two people employed.

42:59

That a middle income neighborhood where you're living?

43:01

Yes.

43:01

Okay.

43:01

Let me just put one more question with you. Well, no.

43:04

I mean, I'm glad you're asking the

43:06

question, but know this. Unemployment is well above what they're

43:08

saying it is. But but but you go

43:09

ahead. Okay. I wanted to I used to

43:12

work in the textile industry, and that

43:14

was a the

43:16

textile plants were somewhere if I wanted to go

43:17

on, I could always get a job because there were lots of

43:19

them in this country. Now we only

43:21

make twenty percent of our textiles in

43:23

this country. One do

43:26

people like a rush limbaugh.

43:28

And he's echoing our

43:30

government. They they believe that these

43:32

kinds of jobs are just expendable. And in

43:34

the next years, the remaining twenty percent of the textile jobs going

43:36

to be leaving. So why

43:38

are these jobs just

43:39

expendable? Well,

43:43

now I thought you were

43:45

disagreeing with me about the actual unemployment numbers. I love. No. I love this,

43:47

but I

43:48

wanted to ask you a second question.

43:52

Okay. It's

43:54

confused. You,

43:54

sir, have jinxed where I thought

43:57

you were not going to. Yeah.

43:59

You broke Alex's head. Indeed.

44:02

Well done. So, look, I mean, there

44:04

are other ways to calculate unemployment rates.

44:06

You know, like, there's there's some

44:08

that include unemployment of discouraged worker figures

44:10

-- Sure. -- and that number is gonna

44:12

be higher than your base unemployment rate.

44:15

That said, that number

44:18

including under employed people discouraged worker figures, that was

44:20

just under ten percent in December two

44:22

thousand three. So Alex is right that

44:25

there are other factors that are

44:27

at play in

44:28

unemployment, but he's also exaggerating like he always does. I mean,

44:30

it is that's that's one of those

44:33

nitpicky arguments, though, like but,

44:36

like, too often with baseball

44:38

stats, you know. Like, you can you can talk

44:40

about wins above replacement average. You

44:42

can. But different people calculate weighted differently.

44:44

Like, there's the baseball

44:46

prospectus graph, and then there's this

44:47

oh, there there's all this stuff's true. And sure,

44:49

you can nitpick on unemployment rate.

44:51

Like, what's the total oh, unemployment rate doesn't tell you the

44:53

total number of unemployed people. Well, because who gives us fuck

44:56

about the total number of unemployed people?

44:58

It's about the thing. You know? Like, what? That

45:00

if doesn't matter if you're

45:02

arguing about the substance of the statistic.

45:04

If you're not using the statistic for

45:06

the point of what it's doing. Right.

45:08

Yeah. And you could argue you really

45:11

say that it's for people who are part time employed who are looking

45:13

for a full time job and or or

45:15

all of those things, but you

45:17

could also include the people who aren't looking for a

45:19

job that aren't normally accounted for you know,

45:21

like it's all of those stuff. And at the

45:23

end of the day, if you're using the

45:25

stat right, war is going to tell you

45:28

that Mike trout is a really good

45:30

fucking baseball player. You know? Like, I get you

45:32

can get into the nitty gritty of how

45:34

it's cow calculated, but it's going

45:36

to tell you what it's good for by

45:39

how it

45:39

works. You know what I mean? Somewhat. Yeah. Yeah. I think

45:42

I understand what you're saying. There's

45:43

point in arguing over, like, is it five percent or

45:45

ten percent? Oh, that's my that's my point.

45:48

Well, I think I think that that

45:50

is fair

45:52

somewhat. But I all I also think that

45:54

Alex's if if, like,

45:56

you know, you have this base rate

45:58

of about five and then about

46:01

ten including the sort of under

46:03

employed folks. And then you have

46:05

Alex saying it's sixteen. Yeah.

46:08

He's off fifty percent. That's an

46:10

awful lot. So I mean, it is a

46:12

relevant amount that

46:14

he's off from these theories

46:16

or even including some of

46:18

the factors that he's discussing I think

46:20

that matters because he's somebody who's, you know, espousing

46:23

these ideas and and saying that he has

46:25

access to

46:25

the real truth. That's that's what I'm

46:28

yes. That's

46:30

what matters. Is he was throwing out a number that was

46:32

bullshit. And you can tell because of the

46:34

real numbers having no

46:35

like, they're not that close

46:37

to that. Yeah. So

46:39

but but arguing whether the

46:42

actual number of unemployment,

46:44

that's not what we're talking about

46:46

now. Not necessarily. And I don't think that anybody who actually, like,

46:48

you know, cares about this stuff and

46:50

and and deals with these numbers. I

46:53

don't think any of them don't

46:55

understand the difference between, like, the

46:57

base unemployment rate and and this sort

46:59

of adjusted unemployment

47:00

rate. Yeah. They it's not like he's

47:03

not blowing anyone's minds with with this

47:05

The Chicago Business School isn't, like, blah

47:07

blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. The Wall

47:09

Street Journal is, like, we're gonna send out

47:11

can you take out Alex? This this isn't supposed to get out there. He's

47:14

like people know the

47:16

secrets. So speaking of hit

47:18

teams, they get to

47:20

princess Diana. And here's some big

47:21

news. Let's shift gears into princess Diana then

47:23

into massaro up in the fake bombing

47:26

activities. Of

47:28

the Scott some reports,

47:30

Diana's death linked to MI6

47:32

plot, or the six years after the deaths

47:34

of Diana and Prince of Wales and Doddy

47:36

Elfield. The quest surrounding the Paris

47:38

car crash in which they were killed, continue to

47:40

grip public

47:41

imagination. This just came out with some

47:43

new developments. What's going

47:45

on, Paul? Well, yeah, there was an

47:47

article in the BBC as well which basically confirmed the fact

47:50

that on repo, the

47:52

driver of the car

47:53

was an MI six Informin. Untouched

47:56

on. Uh-oh. So there was this article in the Scotsman, but

47:58

the only thing that it even claims

48:00

is that Jody Aphiad's brother is

48:02

claiming that the crash that killed

48:05

Diana striking similarities to an

48:08

earlier MI six plot to remove

48:10

Slobodan

48:10

Malosovitch. Okay. That's it.

48:13

So it's princess Di and the Melosovitch.

48:15

Yep. Those are the two this one was

48:17

used for. Gotcha. So the headline of this

48:19

article is quote Diana's death likened to

48:21

MI6 plot. But you might

48:23

notice Diana's death linked to MIZ.

48:26

Still a little bit different. Yeah. A

48:28

little bit

48:30

different. Those words look similar, and I understand you

48:32

could make a mistake, but it's not a

48:34

coincidence that Alex consistently

48:36

makes this

48:38

exact same error, reporting false versions of headlines in

48:40

just such a way that can confirm

48:42

his narrative. Yeah. That's it's it's

48:45

not a mistake. Also,

48:48

Henry Paul was not with MI6.

48:51

And you should take note of the weasily

48:53

way Paul is conveying this information,

48:55

saying it's based ASKLY CONFIRMED MEANS THAT IT'S NOT. Reporter:

48:57

BUT HE'S TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO THE AUDIENCE

49:00

THAT IT IS CONFIRMED.

49:02

A FORMER MI-six agent

49:04

named Richard Tomlinson had

49:06

said that he'd seen files that showed that there

49:08

was an MI-six informant

49:10

who were IN SECURITY AT THE RITS HOTEL. HE NEVER

49:12

SPECIFIED THAT THIS WAS PAUL

49:14

AND IT'S NEVER BEEN CORROBERATED.

49:16

THE INQUES into

49:18

these theories even says, quote, Richard Tomlinson accepted that

49:21

some of this detail may be

49:23

knowledge he's subsequently obtained from

49:26

the media that he is mixed with

49:28

his own recollection. Well This is not concrete stuff. And

49:31

this is maybe forcing

49:33

a new cycle for Alex.

49:36

Yeah. Yeah. I mean but

49:37

that's never gonna go

49:38

out of style. If if the if

49:41

if any royal family wants

49:44

you dead, And then later on, you turn up dead in an

49:46

accident. It's never going to be

49:48

accepted -- Right. -- fact that it's an

49:50

accident.

49:50

Right. You know? It's just

49:53

not going to. And, I mean, for

49:55

our first live show that we did here

49:57

in Chicago when we talked about

49:59

the day after Brightbark died. Oh, yeah. We did end

50:02

up talking a bit about Princess

50:04

Diana, and III went

50:06

deep

50:07

on that. And I remember being a tough experience. Yeah.

50:09

I didn't wanna open that back up. Right.

50:11

Right. Right. I just did. But I

50:13

remember all that this is not

50:15

sense? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But also, fuck

50:17

the wrong thing. I know. It's it's

50:19

I mean, it's their fault. Yep. They

50:21

shouldn't have killed so many people in

50:23

the

50:23

past. So We know

50:26

in the present day. Yeah. Alex

50:29

loves Putin. But

50:31

in the past, he knew a lot

50:33

of things about Putin that he seems to not know anymore. Things that would make you hate Putin.

50:35

And also, I would say that things these

50:38

these aren't things that he doesn't know anymore.

50:41

It's he knows to not be true anymore. Which, you

50:43

know, of course, there's the apartment bombings -- Sure. --

50:46

the nineteen ninety nine bombings --

50:47

Right. -- that he did.

50:49

And then here's another new one. Okay. Now would you tell

50:51

me what you

50:52

said a while ago? You're talking about Russian

50:54

slave guards? Or what what was that

50:57

word? Okay. I got BBC. I got Scotsman. I got

50:59

AP. I got Reuters. But

51:02

Limbaugh or Hannity would ever touch it.

51:04

Our good little reform

51:06

buddies put Uh-huh.

51:08

For three years in a

51:10

row, it happens each year.

51:14

Todd, North

51:16

Korea, oh, those

51:18

four point three billion dollars last

51:20

time I checked. I'm having to access that mental

51:22

file folks. A little bit of hesitation there.

51:25

And to pay down the interest on

51:27

their debt, they transfer thirty plus

51:29

thousand slaves, political

51:32

dissidents, via the trans Liberian

51:34

Railway to mines and

51:36

timber programs in

51:38

areas all over Russia,

51:40

and it's out because a lot of these North

51:43

Koreans escape because the Russian guards

51:45

refused to shoot them. They interviewed local

51:47

Russians about how shad it is that they're starving to death. They

51:49

work them to death. Putin has had a press

51:52

conference three years ago. It's why it really made

51:54

news. Thank making Kim

51:56

Jong il who visited Russia

51:58

for paying the debt with thirty thousand

51:59

slaves. So it's right out in the open

52:02

poll watching.

52:03

Wow. It sounds like somebody you probably shouldn't

52:05

be cool with in support and, you know, think is I'm sorry.

52:07

Is

52:07

this true? Well,

52:10

it's it's there's a

52:12

little bit of truth and a little

52:14

bit of Alex being

52:15

out. Sure.

52:16

Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So there is

52:18

a lot of laborers go from North Korea

52:20

and work in Russia. Okay.

52:22

That is true. Okay. A part

52:25

this has to do with the fact that both

52:27

are fairly isolated from

52:30

international communities. Naturally. So

52:32

there aren't other places where, like, North

52:35

Korean laborers could go to

52:36

work. Yeah.

52:36

There is an issue. So

52:37

there is an aspect of this that is

52:40

migrant labor somewhat.

52:42

Hey.

52:42

Yeah. Now you also have Russia and

52:44

North Korea. And there is an issue.

52:47

So there are very

52:50

serious allegations of mistreatment of these

52:52

workers and also of their wages

52:54

basically being stolen by North Korea.

52:56

Yeah. So

52:58

there is number

53:00

of people who have likened it to

53:02

slave

53:02

conditions. Right. Right. And

53:03

so there is some truth to

53:06

some of this. Right. Item

53:08

not sure that it

53:10

is the case that paying off

53:13

debt with

53:13

slaves. Yeah. That seems

53:15

I don't know I don't know if I can get behind

53:18

that. See, that one's that's the one that

53:20

gets me. You know? Like, everything

53:22

else, tucking

53:24

that's what prisons do in

53:25

California? Of course, they do that shit. The actual

53:28

government is saying we're gonna

53:30

sell you people for

53:32

debt. Yeah. That's the one that I'm not sure

53:34

of. That I'm not positive of as

53:36

well. But if

53:38

you're Alex, you know I mean,

53:40

that's a great story. Sure.

53:42

But if you're Alex,

53:45

you can't know that some world leader -- Yeah.

53:47

-- is accepting payment

53:50

in slaves -- There is that. -- from

53:52

North Korea --

53:53

Yeah. -- and then and be

53:55

like, you know what? That guy is great. I want a little bit later.

53:57

You know what? I want that guy in

53:59

control of the

54:02

access powers of running this world. You know, that guy that guy is

54:04

really what Trump should

54:05

be, you

54:06

know, and he's right to

54:09

invade Ukraine. Yeah, man. He's

54:11

the guy who's back. I I wanna I wanna get behind. That's

54:13

that's fucking nuts.

54:14

Yeah. It's weird. It's weird. These these

54:18

awarenesses that have at different

54:20

periods for him. You

54:21

just you just you just you just don't

54:23

know where you're gonna go the

54:26

moment you start getting in with

54:28

fascists, you know? Like, I'm

54:30

sure whenever whenever Alex

54:32

started jumping on the Trump

54:33

train, he wasn't immediately going, uh-huh, you know where I'm

54:36

sure. This is gonna lead me. Justifying

54:38

people overrunning the Brazilian

54:40

cat. Exactly.

54:41

You know, it just takes you down

54:43

interesting pathways.

54:44

Yeah. There's

54:44

something we said for an in distinct pathway. Sometimes you

54:46

can like, you know, this is choice a, and sometimes

54:49

you can see what b and c

54:51

you're gonna be. Yes. L Yeah.

54:53

No idea. No idea where else is gonna go.

54:55

And here we are. I'm defending a

54:58

fascist dictator. So Paul,

55:00

he it gets a question.

55:02

From a caller. And they wanna know like, man, the

55:04

UK. Y'all gonna stand up. Good

55:07

question. Y'all gonna stand

55:09

up and fight. Charles, Louisiana. Go

55:11

ahead, Charles. How are you doing, sir? Fine. I

55:13

have a question for mister

55:14

Paul. And I do

55:17

you think that people in England will stand up when

55:19

the time

55:19

comes, if

55:20

it comes.

55:20

Do you think they have the guts

55:23

to stand up? Well, I

55:25

think I have to

55:26

go thoughts. But they don't

55:28

have the guns because we've been completely disarmed

55:30

though. I mean, that's why the

55:32

main focus of our website is on America because

55:34

it's the last batch stain of freedom where people

55:36

are armed and a

55:37

lot of people are still informed as to what's

55:39

going on. So I mean England is

55:42

basically a completely spine less socially

55:43

set, I'm afraid to say. No. No. That's

55:45

been

55:45

the case for many years. So my main

55:48

focus is

55:50

on saving America and saving the world via, you know, that

55:52

rule because England England's basically gone at

55:54

the

55:54

moment. Save America, save the

55:56

world. We spent we spent ten

56:00

trillion dollars out the Queen's funeral

56:02

because we're a socialist

56:03

utopia. It's, you know,

56:05

fine. I guess, that guns

56:07

are the only thing that matters. It's the only thing that

56:10

matters. Yep. Also, I is that the

56:12

same caller who makes all the tapes?

56:14

He has that same kind of old man

56:16

voice. He has if that guy's name was

56:18

Charles. He's not Louisiana dentures.

56:20

No. No. But there's there's the other guy who You're

56:22

right. You're right. There's a couple there's

56:24

a couple of characters at this

56:25

period. Yeah. His the thing is his accent doesn't it's it's strong

56:28

Louisiana. Mhmm. You know, like, he's

56:30

got a he's got a light touch. More dentures than

56:32

Louisiana. No. I mean,

56:35

Louisiana adentures is Louisiana dentures. Oh. Through it through. This

56:38

guy's accent isn't is a light

56:40

Louisiana. He doesn't have that

56:42

hard. No.

56:43

guy this guy sounds like a

56:46

cartoon character. He's got a little bit

56:47

of it. But I'm I'm not seeing a

56:49

southern cartoon character. Oh, yeah.

56:52

Yeah. Yeah. So

56:54

most of this episode,

56:56

Alex has been boosting

56:58

that Ray McGovern's gonna be

57:01

on. Sky was a CIA adviser

57:04

analyst, kinda fell out back in the

57:06

Reagan

57:06

administration. Related to

57:07

George McGovern? No. Think so.

57:10

Well, but Alex takes

57:12

calls with Paul, kills time,

57:14

and then Ray McGovern finally shows up for,

57:16

like, the last twenty minutes of the show.

57:18

Out. Now, Ray is

57:21

a guy who's had

57:23

some decent points over the course

57:25

of his career. Okay. But he

57:27

is also one of the founders

57:30

of the veteran intelligence professionals

57:32

for sanity. So this is

57:34

that group that also in includes William

57:36

Binney. Alex's buddy, the technical

57:38

head of the NSA, William Binney. That's

57:40

not good. Who's is most famous

57:42

probably lately for

57:44

being tricked into being a huge public advocate for the Seth

57:46

Rich conspiracy

57:47

theories. Yeah. That's his claim to fame

57:49

at this point. What

57:51

a great claim And then also another one of

57:53

the members of the Vipps as they

57:56

are abbreviated to is Larry

57:58

c Johnson who is a guy

58:00

who fell for a hoax about there being a

58:02

videotape of Michelle Obama yelling about

58:04

Whitey. Then he used

58:06

manipulated audio to falsely

58:08

accuse John carry of raping

58:10

people while he was in Vietnam.

58:11

Yeah. Then he

58:12

was he just made up a conspiracy

58:14

about the UK intelligence community wiretapping

58:17

Trump, which spread all over right wing median.

58:19

Oh, I remember that. Yeah. And that was repeated

58:21

by Trump himself, but it was just complete bullshit.

58:23

Straight up. These are profoundly unserious

58:25

people --

58:26

Yeah. -- that Ray McGovern has a group

58:28

with -- Yes.

58:29

Yeah. --

58:29

so that is not great. For

58:31

family unserious people, who have had a

58:33

seriously detrimental on this world -- Mhmm. -- as as we know

58:36

it. Yeah. And I I guess it I

58:38

wouldn't make

58:40

their group. I wouldn't put sanity in the name of this

58:42

group. If if if you put sanity

58:44

in the name of your group, you're

58:48

insane. It's

58:49

yeah. I can't think of any other groups

58:51

that have sanity in the name. No one.

58:53

But nope. Do you know

58:54

why? Because

58:55

the same person says, Putting

58:58

sanity in our name as egotistical. Yeah. Egotistical.

59:00

It could be too easy to attack if

59:02

we do something insane. Exactly. So

59:06

Ray is

59:08

on. And it's not really that interesting of an interview. But -- Yep. --

59:10

there is one thing that

59:12

happens that I wanted to draw

59:14

attention

59:14

to. So that is the

59:16

last clip we have here. There's an overriding

59:20

rationale for this though, and that

59:22

rationale appears

59:24

documents to which you refer, the PNAC documents. And

59:26

for those of your listeners, just

59:28

to go on the web and

59:31

type in price object for a

59:34

new American

59:35

century. And the documents that

59:38

will appear there are

59:40

the Ideologic pull the strategic justification

59:42

for the policies that are now

59:44

being implemented by the

59:46

crisis, the

59:48

war against rock and so

59:50

forth. And you'll see in those documents

59:52

the equivalent of Hitler's Mine

59:54

Comp. Now Mine Comp

59:56

was strategic

59:58

document that if anybody took it

59:59

seriously, because they've

59:59

seen what was happening. And people

1:00:02

have not taken very seriously,

1:00:04

the documents of the project for a

1:00:06

new American Century? Well, in the

1:00:08

rebuilding

1:00:08

America's defenses, September two thousand, Chinese

1:00:10

says we need to legitimize the

1:00:13

use of race specific idle

1:00:14

weapon. Mhmm. So

1:00:15

first of all, that kind of comparison being made

1:00:17

is kind of embarrassing from governor. Yeah. I

1:00:20

understand the point he's trying to make,

1:00:22

but that

1:00:24

doc document is not analogous to mind comp. Second,

1:00:26

neither of these dudes seem to be

1:00:28

aware that the penac document is the

1:00:31

same thing as rebuilding America's

1:00:34

defenses. They're the same document, yet these

1:00:36

dudes are treating it like two separate things, which

1:00:38

is weird. Third, that

1:00:40

document absolutely not advocating for

1:00:42

legitimizing the use of rate specific

1:00:44

bio weapons. We've talked about

1:00:46

this before, but this is Alex's

1:00:48

completeness representation and why about a section

1:00:50

in the document that addresses areas

1:00:52

of concern for US defenses that

1:00:54

the writer's feel should be

1:00:55

rebuilt. Rebuilding America's defenses.

1:00:58

Yes.

1:00:58

Free rebuilding is the that's where it that's what it's about.

1:01:00

In this case, they say, quote, advanced

1:01:02

forms of biological warfare that

1:01:04

can target specific genotype may

1:01:07

transform biological warfare from the realm of

1:01:10

terror to a political politically

1:01:12

useful tool. In context,

1:01:15

this is clearly about the possible threats that could come

1:01:17

up from hostile nations and how the US military

1:01:19

needs to be prepared for these

1:01:21

potential events. Fuck all of

1:01:23

the people involved in the project for the new

1:01:25

American century, but the way Alex is talking about

1:01:27

this is complete

1:01:28

bullshit. Yeah. Well, you've talked

1:01:29

about this before, but it's

1:01:32

deeply disqual ifying for Ray McGovern's credibility that he's

1:01:34

nodding his head and going along with his

1:01:36

clear misrepresentation of the

1:01:38

text. The fact that he also doesn't seem to

1:01:40

realize that the

1:01:42

punitive doc is the same thing as rebuilding America's adds

1:01:44

to that credibility loss. And then when

1:01:46

you tack on his comparison to Mine Comp,

1:01:49

this just isn't somebody that I can take seriously.

1:01:52

Yeah. And oh, wait he's on Infowards. I

1:01:54

mean, the the the

1:01:56

idea of claiming credibility that

1:01:58

you don't that you up

1:02:00

is so crazy to

1:02:01

me. Well, I mean, you know,

1:02:03

like, that's a genuine resume. No. No. No. He

1:02:05

does have a resume, but

1:02:07

the credibility on something like this that you don't know inside

1:02:09

and out. Like, that is

1:02:12

so scary. Like, even when I was even when

1:02:14

I was

1:02:16

working, fucking whatever job I was any

1:02:18

job. It's always like, I am not

1:02:21

going to say I can do anything until

1:02:23

I can do

1:02:23

it. Mhmm.

1:02:26

You know? Not even gonna try and pretend I can

1:02:27

do it. Well, I think I think

1:02:27

that the project for an American Century

1:02:30

document was so

1:02:32

popular. And and everybody was

1:02:36

trying to have their

1:02:38

established anti Iraq

1:02:40

War -- Sure. -- talk

1:02:43

in points in in in place and the

1:02:45

penact document was really good for that. Yeah. And so

1:02:47

you can just kind of point to it. And I

1:02:49

think a lot people kind of

1:02:51

had a lazy attachment to to that document as

1:02:54

being proof that all of these

1:02:56

people planned

1:02:58

nine eleven. Yeah. Well, actually, I don't know. It almost became more

1:03:00

a synecticky for just the people involved in

1:03:02

it. You know, like, you point to the doc

1:03:05

human, but what you're really doing is pointing out shady

1:03:07

these motherfuckers

1:03:08

are. Yeah. And actually, as I say that out loud,

1:03:10

it's kinda interesting because McGovern's

1:03:14

point in as much as this

1:03:17

indicates an interest

1:03:19

in, like, the war and a wreck --

1:03:21

Yeah. -- is more sensible then

1:03:24

Alex's use of it in terms of the, like,

1:03:26

bio race specific bio weapon. That's

1:03:28

true. Proving that they did nine

1:03:30

eleven. Right. These kinds of things are are

1:03:32

a bit more detached. So raise

1:03:34

raise use of it is a little bit closer

1:03:36

to, like, well, you're you can have a

1:03:38

conversation there. Yeah. That's

1:03:40

true. But but, yeah, it is it is more

1:03:42

or less, like,

1:03:43

shorthand. Point to this. Yeah. Yeah.

1:03:46

I mean, it it makes sense in a in a

1:03:48

certain way to use it, Leslie. The it's

1:03:50

just the problem is when you think you know what is inside of Mhmm. That's

1:03:52

kind of a I think do you

1:03:54

think here's my here's my feeling.

1:03:58

On how this should be though. Like, race specific

1:04:00

bio weapons should be out for good after COVID. Right?

1:04:03

Like, we've all seen

1:04:06

how if you think a disease

1:04:08

is going to be a thing, suddenly it's

1:04:10

going to be a lot of different things. You

1:04:12

know? Like, there's no way that you could

1:04:14

really think of doing a race specific

1:04:16

a bio weapon without assuming that it's gonna go absolutely ham. Well, here

1:04:19

here's here's my thought. Yeah.

1:04:20

Yes. But then also, it's

1:04:23

a good thought. I THINK

1:04:25

THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD ALREADY THINK

1:04:28

THAT. AND THEN SECOND,

1:04:30

I THINK THAT THE WAY YOU'RE SAYING

1:04:32

THAT AFTER COVID, IT SHOULD BE BUT

1:04:35

I THINK THAT THE ABILITY OF

1:04:37

PEOPLE LIKE ALEX TO USE IT AS

1:04:39

AN OMINOUS CONSPIRACY SHOULD BE OVER

1:04:41

AFTER COVID. BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS A

1:04:43

RACE SPECIFICALLY NO. So like

1:04:46

now, it should just that should be a dead It should

1:04:48

all be

1:04:48

over. A dead conspiracy theory. In some

1:04:50

ways, we should amputate that line of questioning

1:04:52

if they will. Paul Paul said it

1:04:54

best as it turns out. So

1:04:58

yeah. I think this is really

1:05:00

interesting the way that

1:05:02

the the a dumb conspiracy is going. Because it's you

1:05:04

can see the gears

1:05:06

moving a tiny bit. You can see

1:05:08

Alex trying to

1:05:10

get in on the, like, what

1:05:12

about that beard? How about those eyes? It's

1:05:14

a little Paul coming in and

1:05:16

trying to give an influence

1:05:17

of, like, let's keep it in and

1:05:19

it's keep it in territory where we can be respectful

1:05:22

respectable here. Yeah. Don't turn this

1:05:24

into, like, it's a fake

1:05:25

person. Yeah. Or some shit, but

1:05:28

Alex is drawn towards that. I mean, you see the dynamics because

1:05:30

it's so clear, and and it

1:05:34

plays out Sandy who -- Exactly. -- it plays out over and over

1:05:36

again. What's what's amazing about it is

1:05:38

the the the, like, the more

1:05:40

trepidation that

1:05:42

Alex has and, like, I'm gonna dip my toe into the You're right. Those eyes

1:05:44

are different. Now there's only one conclusion that it

1:05:46

could be. If eyes are different --

1:05:47

Uh-huh. -- but you're not gonna go that -- The

1:05:50

largest yet.

1:05:51

Or if eyes are different than you have to say

1:05:53

that he has contact. Something

1:05:55

Yeah. You have to add but not

1:05:57

layers. An interesting conspiracy

1:05:59

theory. different in your explanation is he's wearing

1:06:01

contact, why even bring it up?

1:06:04

I wear contacts. Nobody's like,

1:06:06

oh,

1:06:06

see, we caught him. Yeah. That's not how it works.

1:06:08

I I do think it's fascinating

1:06:10

that there is kind of, like, the echoes

1:06:12

of -- Yeah. -- that relation between

1:06:14

the two of them --

1:06:15

Totally. -- you see in the crisis actors

1:06:18

stuff. Yeah. Later.

1:06:20

Maybe people

1:06:21

are just destined

1:06:24

to be the way

1:06:26

they are. I

1:06:26

mean, you know, there's there's something to be

1:06:29

said for that. And III didn't take

1:06:31

you for a calvinist,

1:06:33

but predestimation

1:06:36

is the way to go. I'm I'm not

1:06:37

saying you're wrong. So

1:06:40

Jordan will be back.

1:06:42

We'll check-in on Monday with Alex in

1:06:45

the present day. I'm giving up

1:06:47

on ever really knowing what the because

1:06:49

here's the deal. Yeah. I can't

1:06:52

watch every single minute I can

1:06:54

show. It's too demotivating in the

1:06:56

present day and trying to find

1:06:58

these twenty twenty three

1:06:59

predictions. It's it's just It's

1:07:02

impeding my ability to have a sane

1:07:04

mind.

1:07:04

Yeah. And

1:07:04

and here's the deal. There is

1:07:07

a section on Bantam video called Alex Jones

1:07:09

predictions. No.

1:07:09

No. No. No. No. There isn't a video in

1:07:12

there of his twenty twenty three

1:07:14

predictions. He only

1:07:16

has misleading videos about things

1:07:18

he said in the past that he's retroactively

1:07:20

trying to make look like they

1:07:22

came

1:07:22

true. He doesn't wanna put his present position of where all

1:07:24

gonna be. Of course, not very wrong. Yeah.

1:07:26

So yeah. You

1:07:30

you've fallen into the trap that you fall into over so often. And that

1:07:32

is when you are looking for a specific

1:07:34

thing, you're never gonna find you

1:07:37

have to go into into your your practice

1:07:40

listening as a as a gestalt

1:07:42

almost like dispassionate

1:07:44

observer and then you will find where you your curiosity will take

1:07:46

a thing. Yeah. Your curiosity will take you

1:07:48

where

1:07:48

you wanna go. And and that's the problem. Right.

1:07:50

In the present day, there is

1:07:54

nothing there is no grip -- Yeah. -- for my

1:07:56

curiosity. Yeah. It is just

1:07:58

constant bombardment

1:08:00

with a dumb

1:08:02

angry dude yelling about

1:08:05

the same shit over and

1:08:07

over and over again. And the

1:08:09

same things that are, like, basically, it feels like you're doing another lap

1:08:11

around the same track. Whereas in the past, I think

1:08:13

it's fascinating

1:08:15

to see this

1:08:18

stuff with Saddam. And then also, to be reminded, oh, shit. Howard Dean's

1:08:23

coming out. No. You know, there are things

1:08:26

that my curiosity can attach to. Mhmm. And that's why it's it's so much less

1:08:29

demotivating even

1:08:32

though it's equally full of shit.

1:08:34

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Just the presentation of it is

1:08:35

not, like, crushing -- Oh, no. --

1:08:37

to any,

1:08:38

like, sort of thought process.

1:08:41

It reminds me of every time people are like,

1:08:43

oh, when Alex goes off the air, what are you gonna do? We're

1:08:46

gonna happily retire into the past and then occasionally visit the present for

1:08:48

whatever

1:08:50

a reason. Yeah.

1:08:51

We'll maybe talk about Tucker or Yeah. We'll

1:08:53

do we'll do something, but it will be

1:08:55

it will be a

1:08:57

a delight.

1:08:58

Yes. In in most not all respect. But I will I

1:09:00

will find something to be curious about

1:09:02

in the present for Monday. Or who

1:09:04

knows? Fuck it. Maybe we'll do

1:09:06

another deposition. Curiosity is curiosity.

1:09:08

You can't control

1:09:10

it. The the mind wants what the mind wants. Indeed. But we'll be back.

1:09:15

Until then, Jordan, we have a website. Indeed,

1:09:17

we do. It's knowledge right dot com. Yep. We're all on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's

1:09:19

at knowledge underscore fights.

1:09:22

Yep.

1:09:23

We'll be back. But until then, I'm I'm Leo. I'm DZX

1:09:26

Clark. Show, dreamy, creamy.

1:09:29

And now here comes the sec

1:09:31

robots. Andy and Kansas here on the

1:09:32

air. Thanks for holding. Hello,

1:09:34

Alex.

1:09:34

I'm a first time caller. I'm

1:09:37

a huge fan. I love your

1:09:39

work. I love you.