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Knowledge Fight I'm Dan I'm Jorton

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We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and

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talk a little bit about Alex Jones Oh

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indeed we are Dan Jorton Dan

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Jorton Quick question for you What's

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up? What's your bright spot today buddy? as

1:16

it is a shots fired spot Shots

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fired spot Yeah I'm

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taking aim at some

1:21

novelty stuff that I've tried that has been garbage I

1:25

propose we call it bright spots fired Bright spots

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fired There we go Okay That

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is a knockout Excellent First,

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Dr. Pepper strawberry and cream Get

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out Eww Not strawberry and

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cream? Why? It seemed like

1:40

it had potential I mean you can't not

1:42

think like maybe I'll try this Right well sure

1:44

sure Strawberry and cream is an ambitious flavor

1:47

For a Dr. Pepper? Dr. Pepper has 31 flavors in

1:49

it Or that's Baskin Robins That's

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Baskin Robins But it

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has a lot And

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I think some of them are like cherry and maybe plum Or something

1:57

like that Yeah, yeah, yeah Or

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What have you I feel like strawberries something

2:02

that could be blended in there right? It's overpowering

2:04

and not good I'm gonna throw this out. Okay.

2:08

I have always thought dr. Pepper should just

2:10

be dr. Pepper because I've never thought about what

2:12

dr. Pepper was You know like a coke is

2:14

gonna coca leaves or any number of different

2:16

things, you know, like a cream soda

2:19

is a cream soda Dr. Pepper. I don't

2:21

know what it is Well, it's

2:24

it's just dr. Pepper. It's this this fella

2:27

Got through his post

2:29

grad work. Oh, yeah, and he decided

2:32

to make sodas

2:33

And he came up with a great recipe

2:35

11 herbs and spices Yeah,

2:39

was that was that a head burg was head burgs

2:41

joke the mr. Pib joke knows the

2:44

dr. Pepper died Dr. Pepper tastes more

2:46

like regular dr. Pepper. That means you fucked up No,

2:50

we also have mister no who was that? Remember

2:53

doesn't even have his degree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

2:55

don't know mr. Poop guy. Oh boy

2:59

So that dr. Pepper not good. And

3:01

here's the other thing this applies to this drink and

3:03

the next one that I got is

3:05

You cannot get just one you have

3:08

to get like a 12 pack.

3:10

I mean I hate to say it but that is how they get Okay,

3:17

now I got to either drink the rest of these shitty

3:19

drinks or I have to

3:22

Toss them out or like pour them down the sink so I can

3:24

recycle the cans or whatever But

3:26

the second one is Coca-Cola move What

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move is that milk and Coca-Cola?

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No, I don't know what it is. It's some I Imagine

3:35

it's some sort of a like charity

3:37

kind of thing or whatever. I don't I don't know what

3:39

it is It looked like it had a charitable connection

3:42

to it. I don't look too deeply into it. Okay,

3:44

okay, but I was out with a friend

3:46

Matt Riggs in the store and

3:49

grabbed it because it looked different and

3:51

What the fuck is move flavor? Yeah, I

3:53

would well, I'm interested. Yeah, sure He was looking

3:55

it up on his phone as we were leaving. Mm-hmm,

3:58

and he's like, ooh, they say it has

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hints of tobacco like

4:02

not a good sign nope not good hints of tobacco

4:05

yeah all right

4:10

um I don't know what liquid tobacco

4:12

would taste like but it was really

4:14

more like a

4:16

like a pungent gasoliney

4:20

coconut that's that's Wow

4:23

yeah gasoliney coconut coca-cola

4:26

move is better than coca-cola tar

4:28

you know I suppose that's yeah

4:30

that makes more sense yeah sheesh

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so um okay new from coca-cola

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creations

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taste coca-cola move a separation

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a celebration of transformation

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the newest from coca-cola creations was co-created

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with one of the most daring artists in music

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today

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why would I give a shit what a music artist thinks

4:53

about soda it doesn't say who either

4:57

it just says is it is it move is that

4:59

the band is that the artist

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I feel like an idiot now but doesn't say is

5:04

that it oh my god I'm

5:07

now I've looked on the page and the page doesn't

5:09

even say that it just doesn't the

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most daring artist

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all right well I guess that's

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it I

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call the most daring

5:20

musical artist right now oh

5:23

they're not brave whoever you name isn't brave enough

5:25

to make a coca-cola they're

5:27

not brave enough to put their name on it okay it looks like

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it's Rosalia oh

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Rosalia she's great okay yeah they're

5:34

really really good I don't know who that is I

5:36

don't listen to a lot of music that isn't

5:39

from 20 years ago yeah

5:41

that's fair old

5:43

man applesauce over here just

5:46

sipping on your cottage cheese with the straw

5:47

and complaining about various

5:49

sodas I don't like these sodas

5:52

they're not like what I was y'all these new tangled

5:54

sodas I blame

5:57

the kids Rosa Lee and

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her

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the bravest oath

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eric out as i don't here's

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the problem i have right away sir the way

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you keep saying coca cola move

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you know you can not a doesn't roll off the

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tongue coca

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cola move move doesn't either

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know it's a terrible name them

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out of the can't look nice though not well as

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fair towards your breath about my bright spot

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is a daring a musical

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artist avoid know

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brandy younger just

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released an album and

6:30

as everybody knows younger than who

6:33

well the other brandy the randy with only one

6:35

name of the

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boy is my current be pretty good

6:41

i like everybody i listen to a lot of

6:43

jazz harp and she happens

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to be a jazz harper virtuoso and

6:47

she'd put out a jazz hip hop fusion

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album featuring a shit

6:52

ton of harp it's great that fucking great

6:55

i can't

6:55

save the you know sometimes

6:57

i'll say i com check that out not

6:59

going to make i mean honestly this is one

7:02

that you should check out with sometimes when i

7:04

give you a recommendation and you're like i'll

7:06

check that out is not for you this

7:08

one i actually think you would really like gary

7:10

lawless gentlemen i mean it's just

7:12

really chill it's more it's more

7:15

like a groove than it is like

7:18

i like bebop get a little bit back that whether

7:20

it's worth an ignorant of would prefer that be

7:22

bob wow okay fair no no no

7:24

i don't like chill music that makes me anxious

7:26

that's why i don't really reggae to

7:28

kill the to chill steer

7:31

jill ah there's a for for type

7:33

signature so you'll still be all right and you'll

7:35

still be able the to jam or right

7:37

now i might

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get i'm not i'm not saying you should

7:41

i'm just saying that he might be something that you

7:43

would enjoy okay all right right that's

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not a brand new let us know if it's brand new life

7:48

sounds good so during the day we

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have got an episode to do we

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we ate there are some i have a news that were went down

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for this episode that have been fruitless

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the project camelot tinkering

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called the sack and then

8:05

i a really really excited about this there

8:07

is an episode of the jim baker show about

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the scourge of

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d m t all the

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kids are do in a car an array

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of the

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right let's okay but i was watching

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and i'm like i don't know the this isn't worth covering

8:21

it's worth mentioning here like this

8:24

are serious or it it's the episode itself isn't really

8:26

worth covering and jim baker isn't

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wasn't like in the part that i was watching

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eyes other people like mondo della vega

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our planet the other the team

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yeah the zoo crew i am planning

8:37

about all the kids do a d m t yeah

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you gotta your the episode has to back

8:41

up the laugh of just knowing the episode

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existed you know like if if we're

8:46

not going to do

8:46

better than gym baker's complaining

8:49

about dmt end of sentence they are no

8:51

point knowing do totally that's where like

8:53

the courts of heaven was really laugh

8:55

that that cross that line raised the

8:57

bar beyond the reality of what he's talking

8:59

about is funnier than the concept your eyes the dmt

9:02

is taking over the country not

9:03

really better than just the name know i'm

9:06

so we have an episode we're gonna

9:09

do where where in the past where we talk

9:11

about february fourth two thousand and four

9:13

and there's an important reason okay because we get

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a interesting guests are right here today

9:18

and one i want to look into this

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a little bit and analyze it is

9:22

it that dershowitz has dare showed up

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in the present and the past simultaneously

9:26

are you a which you know now cat not that

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much of a wet okay but it is

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someone who is related

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to a famous person ah

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favorite are sweet spot spoiler alert that's

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all get down to business but who redo let's

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take a little moment say hello to some new want

9:42

oh that's great idea so first james if you're

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listening it's net it'll be okay one

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day at a time thank you so much your now well as

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you are i'm

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a policy wonk thank you very much i one

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is not that is it that is a recent one

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is i saw that kobe nozick maybe this is time

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saver we need to be a fair labor with i thought

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that my over yeah

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the next it took

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me way too long to realize you're saying band

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be a and any d and not banned

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b a n d dot video thank you so

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much you are now ballsy want i'm a policy

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one thank you very much ago next happy

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birthday rachel now you're a walk unless you're

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already walk in which case congrats on being

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a double walk like you so much your now balls want

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i'm

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a policy walk or you know about of a walk

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double walk next spartacus from

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lazy town thank you so much your now balls want

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i'm a policy walk february march lego

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and i got taylor swift tickets and

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a hammer fetish thank you so much your now baldwin

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i'm a policy wonk thank you very much

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and we got a couple of technocrats in the mix churn

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so first super trans vitality

10:39

it's not just chemical crest castration

10:42

because about your now technocrat and oh

10:45

it's december sixteenth and co

10:47

really just wanted to see how long a technocrat

10:49

shutout take the

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use of other now deck regret

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i'm a policy walk i have risen

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above my enemies

10:58

i'm i quit tomorrow actually take a little

11:01

breaking up a little

11:03

break he for me and

11:06

then we're going to come back

11:09

and i'm going to start to show over but

11:12

i'm not i don't remember

11:15

the fuck you fuck

11:17

you i got plenty of words

11:19

for you but at the end of the day fuck

11:21

you and your new world order and fucked

11:23

or she wrote and on and all your shit

11:26

maybe

11:26

they should abolish broadcast me

11:28

maybe i'll just be gone a month maybe five years

11:32

maybe i'll walk outta here tomorrow and

11:34

you never see me again that's

11:36

really what i want to do i

11:38

never want to come back here yeah i apologize

11:41

to the crew and the listeners yesterday that i

11:44

was legitimately having right now insomnia

11:47

i'll

11:47

be better tomorrow now is

11:50

not that now but that gives you some idea

11:52

of going to backlog dot

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a backlog i like the idea

11:57

now of us selling

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ads

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space right but

12:01

instead only doing it in the same slot

12:03

as like a technocrat technocrat drop

12:05

whenever we get to it and it'll

12:08

be awhile it'll be awhile but will sell you that's

12:10

my if you know i've anybody wants to

12:13

expedite shout out for

12:15

any particular reason they can email knowledge voted

12:17

you male dog i'd i have ah and

12:19

that will be available to help

12:21

with i'd agree that it's a bit otherwise it's

12:24

just the that in boxes on the other

12:26

inbox is a mass i am not much i can

12:28

do about that a i would try and mix up with

12:30

the you know that

12:31

everybody has been there deserves their they

12:33

get their space and if you need it sooner than we irreparable

12:35

accommodate work operating people were not bad

12:37

people yeah i have that way you can also

12:40

just like or your you know to donate of your nose outta

12:42

you could just com jordan human one hundred

12:44

percent somebody somebody

12:46

was like other how will they said they

12:48

sent over early on i was like no to i don't even

12:50

want that i don't want that in my mind you

12:52

just say you are i believe you are we

12:54

are bad at so

12:57

we start off the episode here on february fourth

13:00

and we immediately hear

13:01

about who's on the docket ah

13:04

hello my friend when

13:06

day before

13:09

of february two thousand

13:11

and four and

13:14

my goodness you've turned into a very important

13:16

show today we have

13:18

the father of mel gibson next

13:21

part of a new world order great joining

13:23

us in the second our hutton gibson

13:25

to talk about well a speech

13:27

he gave you are we should go

13:29

to the american free press about

13:32

secession from the union the

13:34

national draft what's happening

13:36

in iraq of a new world order and much

13:38

more pretty sweet

13:40

ah to a blue is there

13:42

a reason that anybody should be talking to his

13:45

dad other than that he spell gibson said

13:46

the passion of the christ is coming out

13:48

right and so mel gibson would never come

13:51

on alex is your they're probably

13:53

yeah although i mean today i've said

13:55

that about yea we we i

13:57

will market for it yeah it's

13:59

own

14:00

but i think that alex couldn't get mel gibson but

14:02

he could get to dad shorter there

14:04

we go direct we've talked about this before

14:06

but hadn't gibson is a very explicit

14:08

anti semite and alex has no excuse

14:10

not to know that he's been pretty public

14:12

about not only has believe that the holocaust

14:15

was quoted maybe not all fiction

14:17

but most but also that he believes

14:19

that the jews are behind the plot to bring

14:21

in a one world government so when

14:23

alex interviews and pretending he's an expert on the

14:25

new world order and all that shit it's important

14:28

to remember that whether or not he's explicit

14:30

about it on air everything hutton to saying

14:32

is an allegation of an anti jewish

14:34

conspiracy they're really only

14:36

two options about this either alex

14:38

knows this and agrees with hutton or

14:40

he doesn't care that he's helping spread really

14:43

vicious anti semitism because he's being allowed

14:45

to talk to a celebrity's dad and that's pretty

14:47

exciting for him it's worth noting

14:49

that the american free press is a

14:52

white supremacist holocaust denying rag

14:54

or by willis card out but that the speech

14:56

heightened gave wasn't to them alex

14:58

the saying that because he doesn't really know

15:00

ah

15:00

ok okay they just

15:03

reported on the speech okay the actual

15:05

speech was that the we the people conference

15:07

which was full of sovereign citizens and

15:09

a bunch of other varieties of bigot

15:12

the editor of the council of of conservative

15:14

citizens also spoke with you may remember

15:16

was the outlet published fraudulent race crime

15:18

statistics which were the impetus for dylan

15:20

roofs racist mass murder yeah so

15:23

all are all in the mix the i

15:25

had reserve real a large of

15:27

awful yeah i couldn't find the text

15:29

or you know video of

15:30

his speech but i did find a write up

15:32

about the event and apparently

15:35

people were chanting hutton for president great

15:37

great great a say that

15:39

and berg lindbergh lindbergh

15:42

with limburg was more hate so

15:45

there's another guest on this episode it

15:47

isn't just a neo nazi

15:50

celebrity down okay all right is another

15:52

god is good we

15:53

have a former secretary of defense

15:56

and

15:56

of course up until about a year ago he was

15:58

also the

16:00

it of german technology and

16:02

the technology minister one of the top

16:04

positions in germany but

16:05

joining us or as of over

16:07

the evidence of the us government carrying

16:10

out september eleven you

16:12

see anybody with a brain knows

16:14

this and more more people worldwide

16:17

are saying the world is round not

16:19

flat and again we are the magellan's

16:22

of the twenty first century we tell the truth

16:25

we face facts so alex

16:27

as andreas von bulow coming on

16:29

i i appreciate the greatness

16:32

of the magellan comparison because

16:34

he does not know that magellan died

16:36

before he ever actually completed that trip

16:39

and it was actually a person of color who did successfully

16:41

go around the

16:42

looks like that a metaphor too like this

16:44

unless i'm smart smart it's it's pretty

16:46

interesting booking that alex as someone

16:48

who actually in the german government

16:50

coming onto the show but he's doing a lot

16:52

of exaggerating with this resume von

16:55

bulow was the minister for research and

16:57

technology from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty

16:59

two and previous to that he'd been the parliamentary

17:02

state secretary in the ministry of defence

17:04

for nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighty

17:07

that's not the equivalent of our secretary

17:09

of defense which is what alex as right

17:11

as but it is

17:12

a high ranking position okay so there's a minister

17:14

of defense and then there are two parliamentary

17:16

state secretaries beneath them and von

17:18

bulow was one of the okay he's

17:21

also not been in government

17:23

up to proximate li a year before this

17:25

is alex is saying is like always just got out

17:27

of government yeah it had been almost a decade

17:30

succeed left the bundestag and ninety ninety

17:32

four alex wants to make it appear

17:34

that he was in government way more recently

17:36

because it's important to create the image that he wasn't

17:38

of in an official position around the time

17:40

of nine eleven so his claims

17:42

have more authority that in reality

17:44

he just wrote a book called the cia

17:46

and september eleventh which is kind of shit

17:49

it's more or less a compilation of kind of unsourced

17:51

rumors and theories that fly around dot alex

17:53

a show which von bulow than insists

17:56

that the us government has a responsibility to

17:58

disprove the burden of proof is on

18:00

them from the things that I'm saying. Yeah,

18:02

I was a little bit, I was a little bit

18:04

mystified by the credits,

18:07

the CV that we were given up top because in

18:09

my mind, a recent former

18:12

German defense minister showing up on InfoWars

18:14

to claim that the United States did 9-11,

18:17

that's gonna be a newsworthy event. It

18:19

would be, would it? What

18:22

happened? That would be something that goes

18:24

on TV. Yeah, and get this, we're not even

18:26

gonna listen to any of his interviews, because

18:28

it is so boring.

18:30

It is really just like them

18:33

ping ponging back weird

18:35

trivia about 9-11 conspiracies. Oh no,

18:38

oh no, it's just a fact off. Yeah,

18:40

but it's all the same shit. It's all the stuff that's

18:42

just in blogs and like, Vampulo

18:45

doesn't have like some kind of like, well,

18:48

the German government has these documents

18:50

that I'm bringing to the front, or he

18:52

doesn't have any information, he just read some

18:54

dumb blogs. Right. And here's

18:57

the thing, here's the thing that this helps us remember.

19:00

Just because you have a great resume doesn't

19:03

mean you're bringing a lot to the table. That's true. Because

19:05

think about it, like somebody, five years

19:07

from now or whatever, on like

19:10

some foreign radio show

19:12

could have Ted Cruz on. Sure. And

19:15

like, he has a legitimate, quite impressive government

19:17

resume if you're just looking at the facts. Yeah,

19:20

and he's also a

19:21

bat shit insane, yeah. Right, how do

19:23

you know Andreas Vampulo isn't the

19:25

same thing? Yeah, you know, it does.

19:28

It does feel like sometimes. Steve Pachenic

19:30

was in the government. I know, but that's the problem.

19:32

It feels all too often like we need a better

19:35

way to avoid saying hindsight is 20, 20, you

19:38

know, like, oh, we just hire people

19:39

like Steve Pachenic, you know,

19:41

like, no, we got to have it. But every place

19:44

does that. Sure. Every office will have

19:46

some misfires with employment

19:48

and people they hire. Same thing at any retail

19:51

outlet. That's fair. You're going to get some

19:53

weirdo. That's fair, but nobody working at the gap

19:55

has killed Aldo Moro.

19:57

You don't know that. I do. anyway

20:00

different genetic were members were

20:02

they were the

20:06

boys and we get the bill gap

20:08

a was the original yeah

20:11

we don't know i wasn't in the documentary

20:14

was a stroke so alex

20:16

take some calls because going to kill

20:18

some time and gets a call

20:21

from a guy and i thought he had a really interesting question

20:23

and that is what is the military industrial

20:25

complex that is an interesting question

20:27

especially for someone like alex we have to have a good answer

20:29

yeah

20:30

basically what

20:32

of the military industrial complex

20:35

okay thanks for the call that's a really good question

20:38

bob about we answer

20:40

the military industrial complex

20:42

the dwight eisenhower talked about

20:45

his farewell address of nineteen

20:47

sixty and

20:51

his farewell address he talked about how

20:53

the corporations that had grown

20:55

up free world war two

20:57

and a korean war through

21:01

the funding brew

21:03

the hundreds of millions of dollars of funding

21:06

had taken over almost all of the programs

21:09

research programs university had

21:11

bought up most of the private inventions

21:14

and loud inventors in

21:16

laboratories and that they had centralized

21:19

it

21:20

a control of the brain frost

21:23

of western civilization and

21:25

just a handful of complex and

21:28

he said that that stifle competition

21:30

he

21:30

said that that centralized power

21:33

and

21:33

that because they now only universities

21:35

and because the military industrial complex was

21:38

buying up or a d c and cbs

21:40

and nbc which was happening right of the i'm sorry

21:43

can they do that they were going to control all the information

21:46

all the technology and that

21:48

it was and will matter what we their this feature

21:51

before that

21:52

it was a foregone conclusion that martial

21:54

law would be shut up

21:56

because throughout history when

21:58

military

22:00

industrial complexes

22:02

which they had in Germany and England

22:04

got big enough they would always take total

22:06

control

22:07

so what have you ever

22:09

listened to that whole speech or read it

22:12

no no but you know like some

22:14

of the hits yeah yeah yeah I got

22:16

the idea yeah

22:18

all that that Alex that is made up that

22:21

makes more sense yeah pretty much and absolutely

22:23

is not what Eisenhower was saying

22:26

in his farewell address some of it is

22:28

just fabricated from thin air and some of it is

22:30

just flagrant misrepresentations of things

22:32

that Eisenhower did say one of the more

22:34

basic misrepresentations Alex is making

22:36

is that he's combining two things that Eisenhower

22:39

was presenting as two separate thoughts

22:41

it he's come Alex is combining them into

22:43

one okay okay there there's

22:45

concerns about the military

22:48

industrial complex

22:48

sure and then there's concerns about

22:51

inventors they're separate okay

22:53

Eisenhower brings up that there are new threats and stressors

22:56

that risk throwing the country out of balance

22:58

and says quote threats new in kind

23:00

or degree constantly arise I mentioned

23:03

two only then he brings up

23:05

the two which are the military industrial complex

23:07

and the way that innovation and technological advancement

23:10

had become heavily reliant on funding from

23:12

government programs these are two separate

23:15

things that Alex has turned into one which is not

23:17

supported by the text right according to Eisenhower

23:20

the military industrial complex is the

23:22

state of affairs we found ourselves in where

23:24

the United States had a quote permanent armaments

23:27

industry of vast proportions it's

23:29

the product of being aware that we need to have weapons

23:31

ready when the next war breaks out and

23:34

the industry that makes that possible the combining

23:36

of the two and the influence

23:39

that is gained from yeah yeah

23:41

yeah I mean it's not a long leap

23:43

to go okay

23:45

this company makes bullets

23:48

they make their money from bullets

23:51

it is in their best interest for more bullets

23:53

to be needed if that's the case

23:56

then maybe their advice on foreign

23:58

policy isn't going to be the best

24:00

He doesn't even get that clear, but you can

24:02

you can see shades of that. Yeah, he

24:04

doesn't talk about the military industrial complex

24:06

buying up the media He doesn't say that we're

24:08

heading to martial law He doesn't even say that these

24:10

other countries like Germany and England had military

24:13

industrial complexes that led them to martial law All

24:16

that is just stuff Alex has projected onto

24:18

the text because it fits into the larger conspiracy

24:21

that he wants to push It's important

24:23

to constantly be reminded of this dynamic

24:25

the way that Alex abuses primary sources

24:28

and how little Foundation there is for like

24:30

his most basic concept. Yeah, it's

24:32

really a house built on sand But the sand is

24:34

Alex's imaginary sand. Yeah, it's even

24:36

worse. I mean it it

24:39

is like he's it's like he's

24:41

mistaking crossing the Rubicon

24:43

for the military industrial complex like

24:46

like Caesar owned sword Theon

24:48

and

24:49

Had to like increase production

24:51

of swords So then you know the standing

24:53

army and then he finally was just like fuck it

24:55

I got to take over this whole sword manufacturing

24:57

operation and then he becomes Caesar. That's how

24:59

it worked Well, the real problem was that he couldn't get a job

25:01

with the gap So,

25:07

yeah, I just think it's interesting that

25:09

like you have these things that are like

25:11

really foundational and like

25:14

bottom of the The

25:17

base the keystone type ideas like

25:19

the military industrial complex that should be something

25:21

that Alex gets a call Like what is it and

25:23

he's able to give a concise answer instead

25:25

of rambling? Basically lies

25:28

about Eisenhower's speech. Yeah,

25:30

it shouldn't be necessary

25:32

Yeah, but I feel you know It

25:34

is like it's so much the secret

25:36

to being able to lie about everything is

25:39

if you don't know the actual Fundamental

25:41

problems, you know

25:43

who cares if you're making a bullshit like three

25:45

or four steps down the road Dude doesn't even know

25:47

what the military cut industrial complex is

25:49

or maybe he does but he knows that

25:52

the answer doesn't serve his larger Conspiracy

25:54

in a way that like the bluffing

25:56

of it. Yeah, basically, I think you'd

25:58

probably be a pretty interesting an

26:00

interesting improviser if he wasn't

26:02

such a malicious shithead. But then again, a lot of

26:04

improvisers are malicious shitheads. Well, most

26:06

improvisers, yeah. But you could do solo improv. You

26:08

can do solo improv, and Alex could

26:11

do it. He would be entertaining because we

26:13

know that because that is his show. It's a solo

26:15

improv show for about three hours. Yeah, but the suggestion

26:17

is always hate. It's anger. It's

26:20

no good. I'm looking for a different person

26:22

to hate from the crowd. So Jordan, let me ask you a question.

26:25

Sure. What year did you graduate from high school?

26:28

So it's after this. Yes, it is after this. This

26:31

is 2004. I was 17. See,

26:33

I dropped out. Oh, no, I was 16. I

26:35

would have graduated in 2002. So

26:38

I predate this. Yes. This

26:41

warning that Alex has about what's going to happen with

26:43

high school graduates. Okay. And

26:45

people who are on their way to graduation. All right, so I

26:47

am at risk. No, you lived through

26:49

this. Yeah, okay. You lived through this.

26:52

Okay. Don't you remember? No, no,

26:54

no. I'm just catching up my memory.

26:55

Listen to what happened to you. Okay. Well,

26:58

the New York Times reported the feds, if

27:00

your child's going to graduate from high school, allowed

27:03

to serve their last two years upwards of 10 hours

27:05

a week

27:06

at a Homeland Security computer and your

27:08

what

27:09

paid for by the government. I

27:11

was told we'll have to sit there and watch surveillance

27:14

cameras around the country and report to

27:16

police what they see. And quote,

27:18

in case your child gets lazy, the

27:21

government is going to superimpose fake

27:24

terrorists. So clear they can randomly

27:26

insert fake video like the running man. And

27:29

then your child and old folks will do this too

27:31

as part of the new national draft, but it says

27:33

to start out the high schools, we'll have to call

27:35

the police. And let's say you're in Texas, you'll

27:38

be titling on somebody in New Jersey,

27:40

crime, terrorism, everything, just

27:42

terrorism and crime.

27:44

And to make sure your child's on their toes, your

27:46

young person, they'll hit

27:48

the button to a larger committee. They'll look at the images,

27:50

hit the command of

27:53

the police. The police will have a code number

27:55

and go, no, this was just a drill.

27:58

And that's so.

28:00

sophisticated I could talk

28:02

for an hour about what that means I'm

28:04

sure you could solo improv style but

28:06

yeah that must have been tough how was it when you had

28:09

to do those ten hours a week at the homeland

28:11

security computer that was installed in your home here's

28:13

the problem did you ever get tricked by these fake terrorist

28:16

tests that they superimposed on there to make sure you

28:18

weren't being lazy my codes weren't very great

28:20

here's the problem all right here's the problem

28:23

with an old person or

28:25

at this time no he's only in his like early

28:28

20s yeah no I think

28:30

what 2004 would have been so

28:32

he's 10 years older than me right

28:34

yeah he would have been in his late 20s yeah he would have

28:36

been in his late 20s right yeah so people

28:39

weren't as internet sophisticated at

28:41

that time like my generation was just

28:43

at the end of the generation that was born

28:45

with computers you know if at that

28:48

time the government had installed

28:50

a computer in every teenage boys

28:52

home they would have created a race of super

28:54

masturbators that could last for 10

28:56

hours a day no it's like that's insane

28:59

how stupid that is connected to that internet

29:01

connected to the internet portal of

29:04

security cameras all over the world listen

29:06

the people at the SEC

29:08

are watching porn all the time I don't know I don't

29:10

fucking know you know I

29:13

think first of all cost prohibitive yeah

29:16

that is that's definitely cost prohibitive this

29:19

is so silly yes

29:24

logistics of it are

29:26

impossible to imagine but it is funny

29:28

to imagine being in 2004 being

29:31

one of Alex's listeners and being like I will never

29:33

allow okay

29:36

so who comes in to install it is it the g-men

29:39

is it like the FBI from the 1960s

29:41

like yeah excuse me mmm come

29:43

on yeah yeah we're here to install

29:46

your government computers yeah yeah yeah and

29:48

you're gonna go to the clink if you if you

29:51

tamper with this computer at all this is

29:53

government

29:54

property right it's like a mailbox right

29:56

maybe you shouldn't have given government property with 16

29:58

year old boy I'll just throw that out our gym

30:01

a vapor if it breaks it's are you you're going

30:03

to jewelry and

30:05

don't masturbate hundred okay

30:08

so after that is habits after the g read

30:10

coveted stole your computer hook

30:12

up a landline do the whole

30:15

day because back then it wouldn't have been like a wireless

30:17

no no it would have been plug there are

30:20

yeah

30:21

that's what you would have heard all

30:24

day everyday the dedicated phone line

30:26

a young person's house or else they're phone will get where

30:28

their whole wouldn't work yeah the

30:31

internet of the past two as a wild man

30:33

is that i don't know that seems

30:35

like right on the line because i feel

30:37

like that was definitely the case when i was

30:40

like sixteen seventies or but

30:42

i feel like it might have gotten a little bit better

30:45

by

30:45

two thousand and four maybe not i don't know it's hard

30:47

to figure aware of those lines when i care

30:49

about i wanna say that dial

30:51

up had passed i want to say

30:53

that we were fully connected wire

30:56

like of of not dial up but

30:58

i could be wrong i could be wrong either way

31:00

this is dumb and it's just delightful

31:03

i like it i like these kinds of things on alex

31:05

a show and yes describing these

31:07

like what's gonna happen to twenty

31:09

years later look like it's so

31:11

stupid there's there's something to be said

31:13

about his props for imagination

31:15

yeah they know they're they're scary sort

31:18

of my so anyway alex gets another

31:20

call this guy

31:22

i guess he blew his friends mind

31:25

with a little thakur it osaka larry

31:27

in iowa know

31:29

out i'll go to hockey larry yeah

31:31

i might try

31:35

to wake up you people and you

31:37

know the when our conversation then

31:39

in were an adequate a bad way the

31:41

system of a damn right pravykh what

31:43

i'm saying by that i have

31:45

not been again met kinda cool

31:48

i'm my goodness that that you

31:50

know have mexican dumped

31:53

him that of that we don't talk about everybody

31:56

because it you know right

31:59

here there are around as you know in

32:01

our communities and this

32:03

guy did not believe

32:06

that there is a social security office

32:09

in mexico city and

32:11

then they are trying to tell him about

32:13

the eventual pan american union and

32:16

it does this is one of the fact

32:19

that are the where the building blocks

32:21

to that eventuality units it's public

32:24

and

32:24

i'm a little nervous or so so so

32:26

he denies that of course well

32:28

if we wanted proof which is that

32:30

you know encouraging you know

32:33

and

32:33

go to a search engine and

32:35

utopian

32:36

mexicans to be paid social security

32:38

in mexico and about five hundred

32:40

most recent articles papa there

32:43

aren't any sense of security administration offices

32:45

outside the u s however there

32:47

are many us citizens who are entitled

32:49

to social security benefits who live outside

32:52

of the united states net so there isn't need to

32:54

accommodate these people who live abroad this

32:56

that's why many us embassies

32:58

there's a federal benefits unit

33:00

which houses the office of earnings and

33:02

international operations there actually

33:05

three such offices

33:06

in mexico to in consulates

33:08

and one at the embassy this has

33:10

nothing to do with giving non us citizens benefits

33:13

but as the air of being just suspicious

33:15

enough that presented with no context or even

33:17

better presented with fake context

33:19

it given to people like this color that there's something

33:21

nefarious going on it's really sad

33:23

how uncurious these employers listeners

33:26

are all well considering themselves the real truth

33:28

seeker yeah like ask yourself for us

33:30

a second why would

33:32

they need to be people who have

33:34

some involvement with social security

33:36

in foreign countries i'd

33:38

say an embassy know something like a why would

33:40

that be necessary obviously american

33:43

citizens live outside the united states i

33:45

was i was i didn't say anything

33:47

because i was waiting for it to be true or not

33:49

true because i don't know but when he said

33:51

did you know their social security offices

33:54

in mexico's it as like yeah of course there

33:56

are

33:56

us citizens live everywhere and they also

33:59

still get us citizen stuff, you

34:01

know, and even if you're not, even if you're applying

34:04

to be a citizen, and why

34:06

not go there? I mean, it makes perfect sense.

34:08

There's all kinds of services

34:11

for citizens at embassies. Such

34:13

as, it's an important part of

34:16

being able to be in other countries.

34:18

Yeah, what's the point of an embassy if it doesn't

34:21

do the things that you would need it to do? Yeah,

34:23

I mean, I don't know exactly how, you

34:26

know, like other countries, their

34:29

exact

34:30

governmental structure is, but I would assume

34:32

that some of those things are available at other

34:35

countries' embassies within the United States, too.

34:37

So like, I don't know, this is all just really stupid.

34:40

And I think

34:41

that is indicative of laziness. Yeah.

34:44

On the part, lazy thinking, not asking

34:46

the second question. If there

34:49

is this embassy there, or this social

34:52

security thing there, why is that?

34:54

Because

34:54

you ask yourself that question, and then immediately

34:56

you have conspiracy theorists running in with the

34:59

answer, and that is, because they're trying to turn

35:01

the United States, Canada, and Mexico

35:03

into the same country so they can give Mexican people

35:05

social security, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

35:07

then you accept that as an answer because you're lazy,

35:10

and you don't want to think through the second question of

35:12

like,

35:13

it's just because there are people who live abroad.

35:15

Yeah, I mean, my mind goes like

35:17

this, right? So, social security

35:20

offices in the US and other

35:22

countries, right? People need benefits

35:24

there.

35:25

Now I think, okay,

35:27

if other countries do that, who has the best

35:29

benefits? And now I'm thinking we should

35:31

knock over the Finnish embassy, all right? See,

35:34

they've gotta be keeping shit tons of cash in there.

35:36

Everybody knows that. Look out, Finland. We're

35:38

coming for your embassies, man. Yeah. So

35:41

I just think it's laziness, and

35:43

that makes this ironic.

35:45

Well, you know what? I would suggest that you not

35:47

cash your pearls before swine. Right.

35:50

I would move on. I've got a sneaking suspicion. You

35:52

can give that guy all the news articles you want. He'll

35:55

come up with new excuses to be lazy.

35:57

Yeah. So good propaganda.

36:00

Just place our own laziness.

36:02

You said it. Yep. Yep. You are very

36:04

correct, Alex. And that is the reason you

36:06

have a career. Wow. Yeah. That is...

36:09

Oh my God. That is cynical. If he

36:12

is ever put into a prison,

36:14

that should be on a loop. He should have to

36:16

listen to that on a loop. Over

36:18

and over and over again. Good propaganda

36:20

is predatory upon people's laziness.

36:23

That makes perfect sense. You jerk. You

36:25

asshole. So now we get to Hutton Gibson

36:28

showing up. I got to say,

36:30

these dudes have no chemistry.

36:34

It is tough to listen to because he

36:36

is like an 80-something year old racist.

36:38

Sure. And I think that he

36:41

knows enough. Like, he is friends

36:43

with Alex. At least like they have talked

36:45

a couple of times at least before. Yeah. So

36:47

I think there is an awareness that like you can't

36:49

yell about the Jews on his show. Sure. Sure.

36:52

That is going to play poorly. Right.

36:54

There is an illusion that we are trying to maintain

36:56

here. We got 20 years before we can just open

36:58

out and say it whenever we want. You have

37:00

to be yay famous. You have to be yay famous. Mel

37:02

Gibson's dad. Yay's dad

37:05

isn't doing it. That kind of thing. No. You

37:07

have to be the celebrity yourself if you want to talk about

37:09

loving Hitler. You have to be a family member. Yeah. But

37:12

yeah, it is really tough because there are long

37:15

pauses kind of like

37:17

Jonty back and

37:19

forth. Not Jonty back and forth. No. No. Staccato

37:22

back and forth. Yeah. It is just not good

37:24

to listen to. Anyway, Hutton wants us

37:26

to secede from the US. Sure. The

37:29

thing here is

37:31

that secession was

37:33

created by the founding fathers. They

37:36

left it in there. Did they?

37:38

And the fact that it did not succeed in 1861 to 65

37:41

is merely a matter of who had more banks

37:48

and who had more soldiers and more

37:50

munitions.

37:53

It was perfectly legal and making

37:56

it one time impossible.

38:00

the Maryland

38:02

legislature so it couldn't succeed.

38:08

Anyway... Great story dude. Did

38:10

you know that the week before 9-11, the

38:13

two

38:14

other states had

38:16

their counties and their select men

38:19

preparing to withdraw from

38:21

the Union,

38:22

the counties from the states under their

38:24

Article 10 right to revolt in that particular state,

38:27

and then suddenly the attacks took place

38:29

and that didn't happen, Arizona almost

38:32

passed a law, it passed committee to

38:34

pull out of the Union. If quote, a new world

38:36

order is declared or if gun confiscation

38:39

begins, if the federal government goes

38:41

bad, it is our right, it is our duty

38:43

to pull out of the Union. And it's going to

38:46

start with the select men. I mean...

38:48

The Omni Budsmans. Okay. All

38:51

right. All right. Okay. Yeah. Did you

38:53

know that right before 9-11, three states were going

38:55

to secede and then the attack happened and then it didn't

38:57

go through? I did not know that that

38:59

was on the table. I didn't know

39:02

that that was a motive. Clearly that's

39:04

the reason you bring this up is like that's why

39:06

they did 9-11 in order to stop New Hampshire

39:08

from seceding. Right. Right. Well, I

39:10

mean, New Hampshire was going to secede

39:13

in 99,

39:13

but then Y2K happened. Then

39:16

they were picking it back up. Then 9-11 happened. They

39:19

took a year off, Iraq war happened. You know, you're

39:21

still just... Then the bank, 2008, 2009 recession.

39:23

Absolutely. Yeah. Every time you try

39:26

and secede, you just have to keep putting it off for

39:28

a new emergency. And as we all know, this

39:30

is one truism from history. Sure. As

39:32

go the New Hampshire select men. So

39:35

goes the country. So goes the country. The wisest

39:38

elders of our country. They

39:40

know everything. They're always on the right side of history.

39:43

The select men of New

39:43

Hampshire. I've always

39:46

appreciated those dumb like legality

39:48

of secession arguments or whatever. Like

39:51

at a certain point, if you have seceded,

39:53

then laws are different now. There's

39:56

no, there's no laws. Yeah. You know, you're not,

39:58

you know, nobody has laws over you.

40:00

that you can't assault somebody, but if they hit you,

40:02

then it's time to throw hands. It's on.

40:04

The rules are different. It's a different country. We've

40:06

entered a different state of play. Yeah, we're at

40:09

war between two countries. There's no legal

40:11

or illegal here. You almost, it's almost

40:13

academic and for people to

40:15

discuss later, like the legality

40:18

of starting an internal civil war.

40:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or whatever, because in

40:22

the moment, it's

40:24

not going to matter. Yeah, I'm suing

40:27

Jefferson Davis to stop the war. God'll

40:30

do it. It's illegal. That'll catch them

40:32

up in all kinds of costly litigation.

40:34

Yeah, exactly. They want to start the war, but they

40:36

can't, it's, yeah. Yeah, I mean, look,

40:38

you can say that there's more bankers and more

40:41

guns and stuff, and that's what, but

40:43

also public support. Sure. I

40:46

mean, if there are different countries support.

40:49

If there are people who are like, you know, really

40:51

into God's will and stuff like that,

40:53

you might say

40:54

that the fact that the Union won might

40:56

have been the message. Maybe

40:59

they had divine, I don't

41:02

know, I don't think that, but it might be,

41:04

it should be persuasive for them. I mean, you know, when

41:07

we think about the civil war, we always like to

41:09

talk about us, you know, but I

41:11

think a lot of the times we forget that one of the

41:14

big things is the South didn't get many

41:16

loans. They didn't get as many

41:18

loans from foreign countries because there were

41:20

slavers.

41:21

Most people don't like to loan money to slavers.

41:24

It's bad. There was another caller

41:26

who brings up that like everybody

41:28

wants to say that the civil war was about

41:30

slavery, but it was about the South's wanting

41:33

to determine their own future. Yeah,

41:35

to own slaves. Exactly. I'm listening, I'm

41:37

like. You totally got that. You've just rephrased

41:39

this. It doesn't mean

41:41

anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:42

Anyway. Yeah. Alex

41:44

has looked into Hutton Gibson, and he

41:47

wants the audience to know that he's super credible.

41:49

We're talking to Hutton Gibson,

41:53

who has been conscious of the New World Order

41:56

for 50 years. and

42:00

you can see the effect of his knowledge

42:03

his information which i've checked out

42:05

i'm is currently accurate on

42:08

his son and the fruits of his labor

42:10

with brain heart and the patriot and

42:12

now the passion is alex is

42:14

checked out hadn't gibson stuff and

42:17

he thinks it's all accurate is

42:19

a holocaust denier yep yep

42:22

false

42:22

out and

42:23

if he's not then i would think

42:26

that when you're presenting this that

42:28

hutton gibson's information is really you

42:30

know solid he knows what he's talking about

42:33

it's accurate yeah except for the part

42:35

where he says that the holocaust was mostly fake

42:37

yeah yeah you it at the very least

42:39

have to point that one out yeah but the problem

42:41

is when you point that one out all the sudden i think

42:43

about the rest of what he has to say and i go i

42:45

don't care and the here that's

42:48

a difficulty earning that's why alex doesn't

42:50

bring it up tends to ban because he wants to launder

42:52

people like rise to his audience

42:53

that

42:55

yeah if i mean normally you say

42:57

i go look at follow well my information

42:59

the a you can see that you can see the notes

43:01

and ship but if you're talking about hunt gibson be

43:03

and like everything he says is accurate if somebody

43:06

follows up for two seconds they're going to be like

43:08

you're right all the cars didn't happen yeah you're gonna

43:10

irina immediately find that he's not he's

43:12

not like pretty cagey about know

43:15

now so i'm i mean if alex

43:17

has looked into him at all he knows this stuff and

43:20

i guess that's

43:21

just what he wants his audience to think is accurate

43:23

yeah many as a metaphorical swastika

43:26

on his forehead so alex

43:28

also answer session it turns out here but

43:30

we're gonna be talking today about secession

43:33

from a union how it's a good thing

43:35

and i agree it needs to happen

43:37

by as many stages possible because

43:39

this is an illegitimate government washington mobile

43:41

going into the national robbed and

43:44

on the war in iraq and a little bit

43:46

into the passion as well because hutton and even

43:48

was enough to see of months ago and i

43:50

can't wait till i get to see it in theaters

43:52

in a few weeks hundred albums i just

43:54

don't understand i

43:56

don't understand how you can live as

43:59

an open

44:00

secessionist

44:01

yeah this along the

44:05

yeah you pick it up

44:07

either hurry it up or get out you

44:11

think that this is an illegitimate government

44:14

around but two thousand for on we

44:16

have you snag but i or that so

44:18

shut the fuck up with our opinions about

44:20

the way things are going love it or leave it

44:22

i don't me real i know i do know yeah

44:26

i don't give to love it or leave it out but

44:28

you have to secede or leave had yes exactly

44:30

the you have to leave

44:31

it or leave it the leave it or shut

44:33

up the i have i'm fine here's

44:35

the thing i'm fine with secession that

44:37

fight fine whatever i don't i don't have

44:40

i don't care about borders or any that shit like that

44:42

but at no point in time has anybody given me

44:44

any like here's what we do after secession

44:47

that isn't more insane than what we're doing

44:49

that well i can tell you exactly what

44:51

the idea is essentially all right

44:53

you can tell me what the idea they have of it as

44:55

what i'm saying yeah it's that you break

44:57

up the union now and then states

44:59

reconstitute their own

45:01

government right i'm essentially you

45:03

don't want to end up with a smaller

45:05

country that is a white nationalist state

45:07

right you basically just want the confederacy

45:09

to have succeeded right that's

45:12

that's what they're talking about when they talk about

45:14

secession that's

45:15

it no they want to sell to rise again this

45:18

the in order to

45:21

create an environment

45:23

where why

45:25

very serious as are the only things

45:28

out that dictate policy the dictate

45:30

how society as order yeah

45:32

yeah i mean that boy that's why

45:35

they don't talk about what happens managed here's

45:37

the problem right i'm i feel

45:39

like if we just if we gave i'm just

45:41

we just cram i'm all into a small space

45:44

that's

45:44

why i'm again i'm fine with that if everybody

45:46

who wants a white nation wants to take

45:49

i section of texas

45:51

near the gulf of mexico i don't know why

45:53

but that seems like the right spot and fuckin

45:56

put

45:56

a big wall around that will be fine

45:59

the i i see some problems coming

46:01

from that i can see that to yeah i've

46:03

i've i've as i say good as absurd

46:06

deceased of issues here again this is why secession

46:08

doesn't work out expected to have like fully

46:10

thought i think you spec like

46:12

just started say exertion and here we go let's

46:15

give white nationalist part of texas is where i go

46:17

from says as yeah that looks to

46:19

have less secession i was minds are watching

46:22

succession he i've

46:24

never seen one episode i don't know if it's not over the oil

46:27

is that what did you just do

46:29

is that show you know it is i

46:31

just haven't heard you do a step talk

46:33

about secession start talking about success

46:36

it all right a galaxy maybe

46:38

as and thoughts about that show everyone

46:40

on twitter seems to the i've never seen an episode

46:42

and i don't know what it's about i don't know who's on it

46:45

you're good thank you you're welcome so

46:47

alex gibbs hutton a little bit of a

46:49

pump up logo but he can only speak

46:51

and cliche

46:52

long don't know history are

46:55

doomed to repeat it

46:58

in the beginning of patriotism scary man

47:00

hated and feared and

47:02

time when it's cause exceed the

47:04

term a join him because than it costs nothing

47:06

to be a patriot and a real patriot

47:09

for

47:09

the republican a sudden gibson is

47:11

a real patriot the read another quote book

47:14

i don't i think he got his improv suggestion

47:16

was at least you can you say

47:20

oh i get their ah ah i

47:22

mean like if you're listening to this you

47:24

would have to assume like alex

47:26

knows his stuff yeah few like alex you'd

47:28

think that the and he thinks that the hut

47:30

gibson is one of the great patriot one of the great and

47:33

the united won a greater yeah who's been on this

47:35

tip for fifty years even see go

47:37

and you look him up and you're like damn

47:39

i guess alex really wants

47:41

me to discover that

47:43

the jews are the problem of but

47:45

he doesn't want to say it on air obviously you doesn't want

47:47

to the i could ruin his career

47:49

get kicked off the air he must actually

47:51

believe that but he keeps it real

47:54

crypto that's the conclusion you

47:56

would come away from it if you took the second step and

47:58

looked into what hadn't gibson

48:00

is about 100% and you also

48:02

get the sense that Alex is really mad at

48:04

the Catholic Church because that's the other stuff that Hutton

48:06

Gibson gets into. Yeah, sure. But not

48:08

for the same reasons as you. No, no, no, obviously. Yeah,

48:10

it's because they stopped hating Jews at a certain point. I

48:13

was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Vatican

48:15

II stuff. Vatican II was the way, that's where it went

48:17

all wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

48:19

Oh boy. So that's what you would discover and you'd be like, hey, that

48:22

Alex thinks that's pretty fucking awesome. I guess

48:24

this is what the show is actually about because it kind

48:26

of is. Yeah, I mean that is, that

48:28

is such a two-step

48:30

laundering that is so simple

48:32

and effective. Yeah. You know, it happens,

48:34

it happens daily. And so plausibly deniable

48:37

too. Totally, totally. I mean it happens daily

48:39

on so many different shows everywhere.

48:42

Constantly. Yep. Yep. So Hutton

48:44

is also apparently involved in some moves

48:47

to help get the Bible back into schools. Coca-Cola

48:49

moves? No. Oh. Although,

48:51

no. He wasn't,

48:54

he was a visionary artist.

48:57

He died before Coca-Cola II came out. Okay, okay. So

48:59

I can't pin it

49:00

on him. Vatican II, Coca-Cola II. He's

49:02

getting Coke. No, Coke. He's getting the Bible

49:04

back into schools. So here's a little clip

49:06

about that. You know, Hutton, before we go to these

49:08

calls,

49:10

you've been taking action for decades

49:12

and

49:13

you've got a great newsletter, you've got

49:15

a great documentary where

49:18

you go into the corruption in the Catholic Church. You

49:21

do such great work

49:23

and at the same time,

49:25

Hutton, you're also involved

49:28

with Pastor Butch, Pa, and others. 30-plus

49:31

states are already putting Bibles back in schools.

49:34

How many people knew that? You

49:35

know, this great literary work, even

49:38

they say you can't have, you know, religion in the school.

49:40

They put Harry Potter and humanism

49:42

in there. But they can put the Koran in there. They

49:45

make the kids in California work in Walla

49:47

and the five pillars. That's mainstream news. Mainstream

49:49

news. Mainstream news. Mainstream

49:52

news. I remember. They force your children

49:54

in public schools to convert

49:58

to Islam.

50:00

Okay, I mean I

50:02

I'm happy I'm happy to have that's part of

50:04

what happens with the government computer in your home. Yeah

50:10

I Listen

50:12

I am for everybody's fine with the Bibles

50:14

being in schools It is not the Bibles

50:17

existing in a school that is the problem

50:19

Oh, the problem is the people being

50:21

available for people in a library that

50:23

doesn't really make I've got I've got like three

50:25

Bibles I've got two versions of the Quran.

50:28

I've got the fucking up on a shots. Yeah,

50:30

I've got yeah You can have as many literary

50:33

books as a pocket. Yeah, go for it It was great

50:35

to have access to a lot of that stuff and particularly

50:38

in high school because I was able to actually understand

50:41

a lot more of yeah what I was reading but

50:43

yeah having those resources There is

50:45

is I don't think anyone is a Post

50:48

or even back in 2004. It's evangelizing

50:51

and such that's the issue I would be

50:54

the I would be stoked to have

50:56

a like any conversation that

50:58

you have with somebody about religion in In

51:01

a school you should have a Bible with

51:03

you I don't want people like trying to give

51:05

me off the dome quotes. No

51:07

Alex tries that yeah exactly don't do that

51:10

work Well, yeah, one

51:12

of the classes

51:12

that I took in high school that I really loved

51:14

was classical ideas and world religion It

51:16

was a great class. Yeah, great class.

51:19

Yeah

51:19

solid class. Yeah, I recommend people

51:22

read holy books So Alex,

51:24

I think the word of the day now

51:26

is obsequious. That's a good word. He

51:29

is treating Hutton Gibson Like

51:32

a founding father. Okay, it's ridiculous.

51:35

I thought you meant he was using it and I was

51:37

like, wow Surprise

51:40

it's over the top. Yeah, it's just nonsense

51:43

Hutton it shows what

51:45

what?

51:46

What we can do we're

51:47

straight and strong and upright and and

51:50

and your life has really been a testament to that you

51:52

have done So much through your life

51:54

to enrich our lives and

51:56

it's it's so exciting. We got

51:58

a bunch of phone calls here or

52:00

hunting anything else you'd like to go before

52:02

you go to the calls? No,

52:05

I don't think so. Just

52:09

we have to do something about this

52:12

government. And if it goes, the

52:14

Supreme Court goes with it, the Congress goes

52:16

with it, the executive department goes with it, the

52:19

Treasury, everybody else, the whole thing

52:21

goes.

52:23

We don't have to worry about them anymore. We set

52:25

up separate. That's the way they

52:27

started.

52:29

And then gang together when they're out of the way.

52:32

And you know, we have to dare to think

52:35

like that. We have to make that decision

52:37

and start pushing for it, setting up

52:39

committees of correspondence in all 50 states

52:42

to move to restore the Republic.

52:47

Hutton in the past. Okay.

52:50

Yeah, there's no response. All right. It's

52:52

just like hanging sentences.

52:55

It's just, the vibe is not good.

52:58

It's tired. Hutton, you've enriched our lives

53:01

so much. You've made me feel

53:03

like the Holocaust didn't happen. Mel

53:06

Gibson was in a couple of good movies.

53:08

Sure. I really like Braveheart. Freedom!

53:11

That really inspired me. Lethal weapon, pretty good. He

53:14

was good. He was crazy. He was like, oh, I'll

53:16

jump with you.

53:17

Daddy's home. Wasn't

53:23

he in that? I don't know. I

53:26

don't know Mel Gibson. Wasn't

53:28

he? I feel like that was a recent one. Oh

53:31

no. So look, was

53:33

he in succession? He might be.

53:36

I haven't seen it. You might as well be. I don't

53:38

know. So you have one last clip because like I told

53:40

you, Andres Vambulo's interview is a zero.

53:43

Yeah. I mean,

53:45

it's remarkable to me the way that

53:48

you have something that on paper

53:51

is big. Much like with

53:54

the Jim Baker episode about DMT. Yeah,

53:56

sure. Just the headline of it. Pretty

53:58

interesting. Yeah.

54:00

of it not so great. So you have a guy

54:02

who was in the German government coming on, headline's

54:04

great, the reality of it stinks. And

54:07

there's nothing to really be gained from listening

54:09

to it except for that it happened, I guess. That's disappointing.

54:12

Kind of, but I think he probably comes back, so

54:14

maybe a later interview will happen

54:17

and we'll get maybe some more meat or something. Are we talking

54:20

accent, what kind of German accent? Like heavy

54:22

German accent? Quite. Okay, interesting.

54:25

How does Alex handle that?

54:27

It's not as disruptive as it could be. Okay.

54:30

Yeah. Is that where he learns his future

54:32

Soros accent from? No. Although

54:35

one caller in this episode

54:38

did talk about going to like. It's

54:40

me, George Soros, I'm calling it the info line. Alex

54:44

is your refrigerator running. That's

54:47

the root of the Soros thing. Yeah, that's what it is. Soros

54:49

prank called him. Soros prank called him in 2003. There

54:53

was a caller who brought up that he was at

54:55

like a meeting of the Sun Microsystems

54:57

people. And as we

54:59

know, Alex has a big lie about

55:01

Bill Joy, the head of Sun Microsystems,

55:04

and his article, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us. I

55:06

was like,

55:07

I'm getting a feeling that maybe

55:09

this caller is part of what

55:12

Alex builds into that conspiracy. No

55:14

shit. But it didn't really have much overlap.

55:16

Just that he was at a Sun

55:19

Microsystem meeting and they were talking about

55:21

like microchips. Right, right, right, right. Putting

55:23

them into fish.

55:25

It does not have as much overlap with

55:27

the Why the Future Doesn't Need Us conspiracy.

55:30

I mean, and those fish didn't even have human eyes yet.

55:32

They were not sad. They were happy

55:34

fish eyes. They hadn't turned into sad human

55:37

eyes yet. Yeah, so we got one last clip and

55:40

it's a caller who they're having a great time with

55:42

and then it turns bad for me, but it

55:45

doesn't for them. Okay.

55:46

Let's talk to Clinton, Missouri. Clinton, you're on

55:48

the air, go ahead.

55:52

I'd just like to echo what your last caller said.

55:55

Yes,

55:56

go back to Lincoln and also. recognize

56:00

that hamilton

56:01

and clay all for one a decentralized

56:04

the government banking and whatnot lincoln

56:07

the only one i got accomplished because he did

56:09

it by the barrel of a gun on i tried

56:11

to assassinate andrew jackson seven

56:14

times the british banks did i

56:16

did my gun i

56:17

uncovered said began

56:20

in one place but

56:22

i've got off the like they had that the only

56:24

way the government will be a

56:27

big if you will it is is

56:29

you're right but that's been an ama start with

56:31

state sovereignty

56:33

of that

56:34

it can i give him a organization's website

56:36

and block away that's what we do

56:39

okay it's legal to sell owner

56:42

www dot dick the net

56:44

dot or oh no and

56:45

read about that and on i thank

56:47

you for the goal i appreciated the league

56:49

of the south is a group that is interested

56:52

in redoing the civil war and having

56:54

the south or suzie however

56:56

they're also interested in creating a white nationalist

56:58

state out of what happens after secession

57:01

there are widely recognized hate group and

57:03

for a short while they were included in the incorporation

57:06

there was known as the nationalist front

57:08

this was a group that also included the clan

57:10

and the outright nazis vanguard america

57:13

the nationalist fraud was an attempt to bring

57:15

all these scattered white supremacist groups

57:17

who are pushing for an ethno stay together so

57:20

they can be under one banner and get more work

57:22

done on surprisingly that all happened

57:24

just after trump got elected and they

57:26

were the most like biggest thing that

57:28

you probably have known their work from is

57:30

the way lives matter tape measure

57:33

that people were so thrilled about great typically

57:36

they've been more of a white supremacist slash

57:38

segregationist group but they also dabble

57:40

quite a bit and anti semitism in

57:42

twenty eighteen their founder michael hill posted

57:44

this on or social media quote the

57:47

jews claws are sunk to deeply in

57:49

the united states for her to survive in her present

57:51

form we must have an independent

57:53

south to rid of our of our part

57:55

of the earth of this pestilence there

57:57

must be no jew influence on our new name

58:00

and state that is the foundational

58:02

concern the must be taken care of before

58:04

anything else this independent south

58:06

will once again be a white man's land chirp

58:08

chirp this is a group that alex is

58:10

letting his collar promote with no pushback

58:12

at all this is what alex promotes

58:15

by having hutton gibson on and saying that

58:17

he's accurate about everything alex is begging

58:19

his audience to go find out what hutton says

58:21

which will then be read with the listener

58:24

knowing that what they're reading has alex

58:26

a stamp of approval it's legitimately

58:28

impossible to go back to this period

58:30

of time on alex a show and not recognize that he's

58:33

pushing his audience toward a very extreme

58:35

sort of ideology and ideologues

58:38

and i personally don't think it's an accident you

58:41

can't convince me that alex doesn't know what

58:43

the league of the south is he loves

58:45

the session and he's bragged in the past

58:47

by being confederate royalty he

58:49

knows who this group is and he's fine

58:51

with promoting it he doesn't jump in and

58:53

say something like eight or sessions fine

58:55

but those people are racists the nazis or

58:57

if he wants to keep on pretending that right wing raise

59:00

it's a nazis don't exist he going to

59:02

say that they're secretly feds or something like that

59:04

has so easy he doesn't do

59:06

that because he's into the

59:08

kids audience joining the league of the south the

59:11

cause the league of the south pursues the state

59:13

of affairs in the world that alex wants to come

59:15

and be deaf it's just kind

59:17

of that simple yeah i mean the

59:20

dumb part the dumbest part

59:23

they overwhelmingly stupid part

59:26

of this idea of secession

59:28

and so on and so forth as that the

59:31

reason that the south was able to

59:33

secede and do what they did

59:35

was because they had free labor from

59:37

slavery

59:39

if we had a white nationalist

59:41

movement secession what or whatever

59:43

right now and they got their own little country

59:46

or whatever they would rapidly discover

59:48

that most of our lives are built on the backs

59:51

of i everybody

59:53

but white people even

59:55

beyond that i mean i i agree there's

59:58

there's an element of that and they

1:00:00

beyond that well i mean i

1:00:02

think that they would still find a

1:00:04

way to train and so i have received that's the problem

1:00:06

so i mean i don't think i even if they recognize

1:00:09

the reality of what you're talking about they'd find workarounds

1:00:12

as it were exactly the other thing

1:00:14

is like even just broader

1:00:16

picture paid very

1:00:18

quickly realize that there

1:00:20

are trade

1:00:22

embargoes that would probably

1:00:24

have no one is

1:00:26

probably going to want to get

1:00:28

involved an export

1:00:31

import partner is one of the white

1:00:33

nationalist breakaway state yeah

1:00:35

i mean i think it's american rhodesia

1:00:38

and then breck the tears

1:00:40

and the and i'm you know

1:00:42

america rhodesia breaks a dears and russia

1:00:44

could probably form a new bricks i

1:00:47

don't know i think i think they

1:00:49

might not even wanna get and that's

1:00:52

possible i mean it's just it's

1:00:54

a the

1:00:55

fuck from a functional standpoint

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like that it's just silly it is absurd

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yeah but sir the silliness is

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also you know not to be obscuring

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the hateful not sure i am the severe

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shit henry that's behind this yeah and

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that alex's like it's

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it's almost impossible to look at the behaviors

1:01:14

that are demonstrated on sept so and not

1:01:16

draw the conclusion that alex is hoping that

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his audience will look into the league of the south

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down and learn more about them look

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into hutton gibson learn more about his

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anti semitism and internalize

1:01:27

these things now

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and that sucks he up is

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like this and he's always been like this year and

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you know it's just let it fucking

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works ever can work you know

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like you it's not a obviously it's

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not a direct path and obviously it's not him by

1:01:42

himself but wait is that concept

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of like here's what you could do

1:01:46

in the early two thousand you could put

1:01:49

a full blown nazi on your show and

1:01:51

you can be like as long as we don't say the shit

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that is not a shit

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a and as long as you're not aesthetically a nazi

1:01:57

yeah you know then you see

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that

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That snowball rolls downhill,

1:02:02

but we are at the big snowball Jordan.

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Why can't yeah a Nazi

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talk about secession on the radio? Really

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I mean talking about his Nazi things yeah

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now granted the reason that he wants to succeed

1:02:15

is that he believes that the Jews are Trying to make a one-world

1:02:17

government and have their claws in the the US

1:02:20

government That's right, so I

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guess it is kind of behind every

1:02:24

single thing that he says even if it isn't over Yeah,

1:02:26

I would say maybe motive Motive

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is something that we should consider in

1:02:32

whether or not somebody succeeding from the

1:02:34

Union is a On up

1:02:36

and up yeah, yeah, it would be helpful. It

1:02:38

would be so we got a little bit of a shorter episode

1:02:41

I blame Jim Baker. It is his fault So

1:02:45

many things come back to Jim Baker Yeah,

1:02:49

his fault. I spent too much time watching

1:02:51

that team I had

1:02:53

a bit of therapy yesterday. Yeah therapy

1:02:56

and then also Psychiatrist appointment

1:02:58

so limited my time we

1:03:00

got we got three this week. You're good

1:03:02

sure, but I mean this is just hunting Gibson We're not even

1:03:04

listening to Andreas von Buehler

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granted if I had all the time in the world I still

1:03:09

wouldn't cover that If

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Everything was going my way

1:03:15

if I had a machine

1:03:17

that stopped time And gave me

1:03:20

all the time to prepare an episode ever Vombeulos

1:03:23

still getting left out if your therapist

1:03:26

was like the only way for me to treat

1:03:28

you is if you listen to this von Buehler,

1:03:30

I mean listen to it fine. I did

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listen to it. Okay fine. I'm just not covering it Yeah,

1:03:35

never mind if that was payment, right? So

1:03:43

we'll be back Jordan indeed on Monday with

1:03:45

another episode But I

1:03:48

had an idea what's all about this. What are you thinking? I

1:03:50

actually haven't pitched this to you yet even so this is fresh

1:03:53

exciting

1:03:53

on air right on the air. Yeah, I'm

1:03:56

thinking Maybe mm-hmm

1:03:59

starting on episode eight hundred almost

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start using social media

1:04:05

we've been down this road before

1:04:07

have we yeah we tried that you tried

1:04:09

to instagram for a good week and a

1:04:11

half you will remember to take pictures

1:04:14

in the i know thou and stuff but also here's the

1:04:16

problem on a poster dan lotta

1:04:18

shit poster what would you to do on social

1:04:20

media over to i wanted to take pictures of these books

1:04:22

for the of the library in staffordshire but

1:04:25

then i'm seeing some of the titles

1:04:27

of these books and some of the pictures on my don't

1:04:29

post this yet

1:04:31

that is here

1:04:34

like it is just

1:04:35

a theory of nazi propaganda

1:04:37

our conflicts that's what a terrible day

1:04:41

and advertising for all the

1:04:43

nazis dot the books that you could have

1:04:45

yeah it's put that money like

1:04:48

self crippling

1:04:50

that is that is there's no way to

1:04:52

and that unfortunate side effect the out

1:04:55

so yeah don't

1:04:57

among fine i'm not give us or post that

1:04:59

the i'm not tell you not to time

1:05:01

nap okay over

1:05:03

back okay africa whip

1:05:06

is solid day and harm or other but

1:05:09

until then we will have a d we do it's outright dot com

1:05:12

or us on twitter we are a twitter that i'll just go fight

1:05:14

my dad are both narrative my solo you know my

1:05:16

know right away right now who

1:05:18

five but until then neo

1:05:21

emilio i'm x clark

1:05:23

yeah forgot

1:05:26

to scout and now here comes to sex

1:05:29

robots andy and chances you're on

1:05:31

the your things rolling

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fall out from under think i'm a huge

1:05:36

fan i love your work the levy