1:54

going

2:00

to do a lecture for that fella

2:03

up in Milwaukee. So yeah,

2:05

it was nice. It was a good time. Good. Yeah,

2:09

so between that and,

2:11

I don't know, I'm gonna blame

2:13

my birthday on it that

2:16

we're putting this episode out. Sure, that sounds good.

2:18

That sounds good to me. But the reality of that isn't quite

2:21

true. I think I could

2:23

have forced an episode through. Okay.

2:26

Despite my parents being in town, because

2:28

I did have some time to work on stuff. Sure. But

2:30

things just didn't come together with some of the materials

2:33

I was working with. And

2:35

so I'm just gonna blame it on all that

2:37

stuff. I think that's actually, I

2:39

understand the idea of

2:42

being like, eh, I could have powered

2:44

through. But the reality is you

2:46

wouldn't have had to try to power through

2:48

if it weren't for those things. So yes, it

2:50

is because of those things that you did not

2:53

have an episode ready. Well see. I rest

2:55

my case, your honor. See, now we get to an interesting

2:57

point where my

2:59

parents did instill in me this

3:03

need to push through. Just

3:05

go and just, you know, you're feeling

3:07

sick?

3:08

No, say no. You can say no. So

3:11

maybe it is their fault in some way that

3:13

I feel bad that we didn't have an episode. Not

3:17

only is it their fault we didn't have an episode,

3:19

it is their fault you feel bad about

3:21

not having an episode. But it was nice to

3:23

see them. Of course. Always

3:25

fun. What are you gonna do, parents, right? So

3:28

what's your bright spot? I have two, I have

3:31

a bright spot and a jeer.

3:34

My bright spot, of course, is it's

3:36

your birthday. Hey, thank you. I'm always

3:38

happy. And it's nice to have a birthday

3:41

just because I like to think about all the stuff

3:43

that we've been through. Sure. Man,

3:45

I

3:46

love you, buddy. I love you too, man. This

3:48

is the last birthday where I get to say I'm pushing 40.

3:51

That is true. Next year I will be 40. Oh,

3:53

man, it's hard to believe you're

3:55

about to be 40. Yeah, this is 40.

3:59

Thank God that movie came out, too. He can just

4:02

make a joke about that. He can just move on after

4:04

somebody says this is 40. Yeah. No,

4:06

I mean, you know, I was reflecting on that

4:08

a little bit, too, while we were going to

4:10

look at open houses. Because, you know,

4:13

six years ago or, you know, whatever, when we

4:15

started this show, the prospect of

4:18

that even being something you would do,

4:20

not as a joke, like, is,

4:22

I mean, obviously, I'm not necessarily in a

4:24

position where I would be like, the easiest thing in

4:27

the world to, like, buy a house. Sure,

4:29

sure, sure, sure. But, like,

4:31

it's not as much of a joke as it would

4:33

have been years back. Yeah.

4:36

And, you know, that gives you an opportunity to reflect on

4:39

that, like, this time and the... It's

4:42

amazing. I'm so... I'm very grateful. Yeah,

4:45

the distance, you know, when we

4:47

started this, I was in my 20s, buddy.

4:50

I was in my 20s, crazy.

4:52

Late 20s. Late 20s. I

4:54

was 29. But that's not the point! 29 in 11

4:57

months. I was 29 and almost 30.

5:02

And then my jeer, of course, is Cake,

5:05

the band Cake. Oh,

5:09

wow. My wife started

5:11

using Satan is my motor as

5:13

her alarm clock. Yeah,

5:15

you mentioned this. I... It's

5:18

the devil. It's the devil. You know, everybody

5:20

likes Cake. I even like Cake for

5:22

the simple

5:22

reason that the words

5:24

are slow, the lyrics are enunciated clearly,

5:27

every song is a perfect sing-along. And

5:31

if that happens in the morning,

5:34

the rest of my day is filled with occasionally

5:37

just nonstop Satan

5:39

is my... It makes me so mad. It drives

5:41

me insane. She needs to switch it up. She needs to

5:44

switch it up. It's gotta change. Go to, like,

5:46

commissioning a symphony and... No! That's

5:49

a good way to wake up. No more, Cake!

5:51

You'll be in Austria and noble, man. It's

5:53

a whole day! It's a whole day!

5:56

What if she chose a Cake song you

5:58

don't like?

5:59

Are there cake songs you don't like plenty?

6:04

Not this I mean most of the singles are all right. No,

6:06

but yeah, there's some album cuts that are probably

6:09

not good Yeah, maybe maybe

6:11

that would solve the problem or go with

6:13

like live Okay,

6:16

yeah Like run

6:18

to the water wake up to that. It's triumphant

6:20

It'll get you out of bed, and you don't have to worry about

6:23

not liking it because you probably don't like it anyway That's

6:25

not my thing is you start

6:28

with a quarter Start

6:30

with a quiet song that builds up

6:33

so your brain

6:33

hears it before you fully wake

6:36

up then about a minute or two in The song you get something

6:38

good. That's why I love using broken

6:40

social scenes Pacific theme to wake up Okay,

6:43

just real good. Yeah, I would

6:45

go with lives They love Lightning

6:52

crashes At the beginning

6:55

I was trying to think of other lives gonna say you're

6:57

just going through live songs And I wasn't even

6:59

sure if they were the ones who did lightning crashes.

7:01

Yeah

7:03

That

7:06

was a hit that was a huge

7:09

hit man weird times the past song

7:11

of the summer or country

7:13

the past is Today

7:18

So I was I was very much

7:20

intending to get a modern-day episode

7:22

together And I spent a fair amount of

7:24

time going down that road, but I ran into an

7:26

issuer is just like this isn't an episode I was

7:29

just like I don't know and so I

7:31

Threw out what I

7:33

had planned and I'm like it's my birthday

7:36

weekend. I don't give a fuck. I'm staying So

7:39

it's gonna do a 2004 episode and that

7:41

is what we're doing okay. We talked about February 9th 2004

7:43

all right unfortunately It's

7:46

not a pleasant time. No great. This is

7:48

very racist great This

7:50

is an incredibly racist episode

7:53

so happy birthday to me. Happy birthday,

7:56

Dan 40 am

7:58

I right yeah

7:59

But before we get down to business

8:02

on all of this, let's say hello to some new wonks.

8:04

Oh, that's a great idea. So first, to JJ, you

8:06

kick like a mule and bite like a crocodile.

8:08

From Owen, thank you so much. You're an IOP policy wonk.

8:11

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much! Thank you!

8:13

Next, happy birthday wish to Jacob. Thank

8:16

you so much, you're an IOP policy wonk.

8:17

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank

8:20

you! Next, Matt in Ottawa says, Nazi truckers,

8:22

fuck off. Thank you so much, you're an IOP policy wonk.

8:24

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much! Thank

8:27

you! Next, Bobby Barnes. Thank you so much.

8:29

I'm a media star. You're an IOP policy wonk. I'm

8:32

a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank

8:34

you! Next, Jake the Sneaky

8:37

Snake. Thank you so much, you're an IOP policy wonk. I'm

8:39

a policy wonk. Thank you very much! And

8:41

I was a hard man until one night Bangkok.

8:44

They forgot the one night in Bangkok. Right.

8:47

But anyway,

8:47

you're still a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

8:50

Thank you very much. Bangkok. Oriental

8:52

city, but the city don't know what the city is getting. Oh

8:54

no. Oh no. We're

8:56

having a day. We're having a day. This is

8:58

what happens when we record in the mornings. Yep,

9:01

it's tough. So February 9th, 2004. This

9:09

I don't know what I was expecting, honestly. Pre-Valentine's

9:13

Day. Sure. Kind of, you know, telling

9:15

people about ways to celebrate

9:17

their significant others. You know what, it is weird.

9:20

As I was listening to this, it did dawn on me

9:22

that this is before Valentine's Day. I

9:24

think it was just because I was trying to find anything to think

9:26

of other than object racism. That's

9:28

what came to my mind. Yeah. Yeah.

9:31

This is how Alex feels love, I guess. I

9:33

mean, if you're trying to avoid racism,

9:36

we can't bring up Black History Month now,

9:37

can we? Nope. Nope.

9:41

So Alex has a string at this period of

9:43

time in 2004, the beginning of it. He's

9:46

talking constantly to these border

9:49

militia folks. And so

9:51

he has another one of these fellows

9:53

coming on. Great. Heather Cott,

9:55

the owner of the

9:56

ranch in southern Arizona.

10:00

who has been in the middle of multiple

10:03

attacks by Mexican troops that have been written

10:05

up in the Associated Press. They have apprehended

10:07

a lot of illegal aliens on their

10:09

property. He was arrested by the

10:11

FBI and he's now been

10:13

released. They tried to force him to

10:16

sign confessions.

10:18

Just wait until you hear the details of this.

10:20

In the middle of the next hour, we've also got a bunch

10:22

of other guests who are lining up. No, just Paul

10:24

Joseph Watson. But none

10:27

of that stuff is accurate at all. Except that

10:29

he owns a ranch. That one makes sense. And

10:31

he doesn't for long. So Casey

10:34

Nethercott is not the victim that Alex is making

10:36

him out to be. He's a felon and dangerous

10:38

border vigilante who has on multiple

10:40

occasions detained people illegally. You

10:43

can't do that. In one instance, it was

10:45

two high school students who were going home

10:47

from a football game.

10:48

In the most recent case, he

10:50

illegally detained two Salvadorian immigrants

10:52

who he assaulted. They successfully sued

10:55

him and were awarded his ranch in lieu

10:57

of monetary payment. Nice. We talked about

10:59

that case recently because another guy

11:01

from the organization Casey is a part of was a guest.

11:04

That was a guy named Jack Foote

11:06

from the group Ranch Rescue. Right. I recall

11:08

because we made Foote Clan jokes. That's correct.

11:10

Yes. In an upsetting

11:13

turn of events, Casey went missing

11:15

on September 1st, 2017 and

11:18

hasn't been

11:18

seen since. Sure. He had

11:20

left his vehicle and belongings, including his

11:22

diabetes medication behind. So this

11:24

doesn't look like a good situation. I

11:27

have no idea what's going on there, like in

11:29

the present day, present day. Sure. But whatever

11:31

the case is, it doesn't change that in 2004 Casey

11:34

was a dangerous armed felon who believed

11:36

that he could take the law into his own hands to dispense

11:38

vigilante justice against immigrants and

11:41

high school students he probably thought were immigrants.

11:43

I feel like if you quote illegally

11:46

detain high school students, you have kidnapped.

11:48

You are a kidnapper at that point.

11:50

It is weird. I wasn't able

11:52

to find like specific,

11:56

like a full explanation of

11:58

what went down there. Yeah.

11:59

Which leads me to believe that he didn't do time

12:02

for it. Right. But, uh... Boy,

12:04

I mean, of all the things to do

12:07

time for,

12:08

that we have so many people in prison for

12:10

marijuana possession, and

12:12

this guy who kidnaps

12:14

people regularly... Hey, misunderstanding.

12:17

That's not how it works. It's a misunderstanding. No, that's

12:19

not how it works. It shouldn't be. So

12:22

we got some headlines. Sure.

12:23

Shit was hot in 2004. A

12:26

lot of stuff going on. Okay. In the meantime,

12:28

you knew it would come to the United States. A

12:31

restriction on how many children you can

12:33

have. The government has been saying they

12:35

want to do it for a while.

12:38

Of course, if you're a third world

12:40

internal population, you'll be given

12:42

waivers, but for everybody else, there'll be restrictions.

12:46

We'll be getting into that. Also, you

12:48

may have heard of this. U.S. soccer team

12:50

hears Usama chants in Mexico

12:53

during the Star-Spangled Banner.

12:56

I don't want to point out that you know the people that Bush

12:58

wants to allow to the country,

13:00

the people he wants to legalize, the people

13:03

whose government says the Southwest belongs

13:05

to them, chanting Usama,

13:07

Usama, Usama. So the radical

13:09

Mexicans have been locked and more drenched together

13:12

in their hate of

13:14

American national sovereignty.

13:17

That's a little bit of a leap. All right. Okay.

13:19

We'll talk about that thing that's

13:23

apparently trying to restrict white children.

13:25

Sure, sure. Limits on how many white babies

13:28

can be born. Something about the replacement

13:31

of... We'll get to that a little bit

13:33

later.

13:33

But for now, about this soccer

13:35

situation. I need to know more about this. So this was

13:37

after the U.S. team beat Canada

13:40

in a 1,500-seat arena. I

13:42

can find no indication of

13:44

how many people were actually chanting Usama,

13:46

but I suspect it was kind of a smallish group. And

13:49

that's because it happened again at the U.S.

13:51

Hays Next match. Okay. That

13:54

was, according to reporting at that time, there

13:56

were a couple dozen fans that were

13:58

chanting Usama at the U.S. team after

14:01

they lost to Mexico. That was the next

14:03

match that happens in a few days. Most

14:06

of the rest of the audience was just booing the

14:08

US team since the US team had beat

14:10

Mexico in the 2002 World Cup and

14:13

feelings were a bit raw.

14:15

Chanting Osama is a bit tasteless, but

14:18

it's not outside the realm of things that people might do

14:20

at a soccer match. Like people fight

14:23

pretty regularly, it's a little wild. People

14:25

take it quite seriously. Football is the

14:28

game, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Plus,

14:30

it was a few dozen people at

14:32

that game that was at a stadium that's

14:34

supposed to fit 55,000 people, but

14:37

attendance estimates were at 60,000. So

14:40

it was overfilled to capacity.

14:43

It was a couple dozen people out of 60,000. Out

14:45

of 60,000 people, a couple of dozens started

14:48

chanting Osama. It's not maybe

14:50

the biggest deal in the world. And everybody around

14:52

them was kind of like, I am confused.

14:55

You're referencing Bin Laden, right? There's a better

14:57

chant here. Probably. So these

14:59

people are kind of being assholes, but I don't think

15:01

it's indicative of the whole crowd, nor

15:04

of Mexican people as a group, like

15:06

Alex seems to think.

15:07

Alex is making that leap because his editorial

15:10

position is to use whatever imagery he can

15:12

to demonize immigrants, particularly those entering

15:14

from the southern border. And this allows him to

15:16

tie

15:17

all Mexican folk to Osama

15:19

Bin Laden. Yeah. What? Here's

15:23

my pitch, all right? After we killed

15:25

him,

15:26

now we have to replace USA Chance

15:29

with Osama Chance, because

15:31

we won, right? I feel

15:33

like that's the way. I don't know. It's

15:36

like Shang Tsung rules. All right, we

15:38

took his soul after we defeated him. Right.

15:41

I get the theme of what you're saying. But I

15:43

think after

15:45

the Civil War, people didn't chant Confederacy.

15:48

That's a good point. I

15:50

think that your thinking is flawed on this.

15:53

I could be. I

15:55

don't know if people can hear beeping in the background, but if

15:57

they can, it's because there's some construction outside.

15:59

Enjoy that little bit of flavor

16:02

of spice of life as they say You

16:06

could probably get the vibe from that clip

16:08

that we might be in for some anti-mexico

16:11

business Yeah, and boy

16:13

are we this is wild

16:16

just think about this

16:18

Bush supports total blanket amnesty

16:21

despite the fact that it's unconstitutional

16:23

with the majority of voters

16:25

are against it and

16:27

And Bush supports a country

16:29

of people who a

16:32

Large portion of them and the government

16:34

itself say openly that

16:37

they are going to kill all the white people

16:39

kill us

16:41

They won't even allow a 4th of July parade

16:43

in San Diego or LA We got video of them

16:45

beating Hispanics blacks whites veterans

16:48

with two by fours the police stand by and let it happen

16:50

This has been going on three separate times in the last

16:53

six years. We have video of it

16:55

But again, it's not a national news story. You imagine

16:58

a group of white people Went

17:00

to a yes Mexican get together.

17:02

I can read you a story about it two by fours.

17:05

You never hear the end of it

17:08

But it's okay when they do it.

17:10

I'm sick of Mexican food restaurants

17:12

with

17:13

With images of Aztecs cutting white

17:15

people's hearts out.

17:17

I'm sick of it. That's gotta be tough Is

17:19

that a thing? I feel bad for him to go into all

17:21

these Mexican food restaurants where he's Bombarded

17:24

with pictures of Aztecs killing white people.

17:26

It's a very strange thing. It is yeah

17:28

Yeah, I mean, I guess that's partly of

17:31

part of where football came from right? You know Aztecs

17:33

chopped off the heads and they kicked it. Isn't that

17:35

the story? I'm not sure You

17:38

mean soccer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're

17:40

in America. Sorry. Hey, I mean

17:42

if we're referencing You know, I have whatever

17:45

um, I don't know I call it American

17:47

football Sure,

17:49

I pay enough attention to decor Nor

17:54

would I necessarily feel all that sensitive

17:56

about it, but I guess Alex is a whiny

17:58

little titty, baby I just

17:59

find it strange that you would decorate

18:02

a restaurant with so many beheadings.

18:04

Right, and like arrows pointing to the

18:06

victims, it's like white person. White person, for

18:09

sure. Straight up. I know they

18:11

were in Mexico for a while, so they had a tan, so

18:13

maybe you didn't know they were white, but guess what?

18:16

Totally white. Classic Alex Jones

18:18

meaningless complaint. Yeah. So Bush was

18:20

absolutely not in favor of blanket amnesty,

18:23

and nothing he ever did well in office came

18:25

close to such a policy. White nationalists

18:27

call any kind of making immigration or

18:29

pleading refugee status the same as

18:32

blanket amnesty, because in reality

18:34

they want no non-white immigration. Alex

18:37

is essentially on the same page as that, but his public

18:39

brand doesn't really allow him to argue that way,

18:41

so this is what you get. Neither Mexico's

18:44

government nor a majority of their population

18:46

want to kill white people. I've

18:48

not seen any of this alleged footage of the

18:50

4th of July parades being attacked, but if this

18:52

is a real thing, I would assume that it's wild they out

18:55

of context and the violence is about something else entirely

18:57

different than Mexican people being mad

18:59

at US patriotism. Yeah. The

19:01

purpose of this storyline is to ram into the

19:03

audience's head that non-whites are committing

19:05

violent crimes against white people, and because

19:08

they're not white, the media covers it up. This

19:10

is literally the same rhetoric that the Council of Conservative

19:13

Citizens promoted, which Dylan Roof cited

19:15

as the inspiration for his mass murder

19:17

at the Black Church. Alex is swimming

19:19

in those exact same waters here. There's

19:22

no distinguishing between them.

19:25

They're the same thing. Yeah.

19:27

Of all

19:29

the things that are theoretically

19:32

covered up, at best I

19:34

would say that Trump's Muslim ban

19:37

is about as close to people not talking

19:39

about it, because after January 6th, people

19:41

were like, there's our bigger problem. But

19:43

the fact that at the beginning it was

19:45

a

19:45

blanket racist ban of

19:48

non-white people coming into

19:50

the country. They got what they fucking

19:52

wanted, even though it was unconstitutional.

19:56

That's what they've wanted the entire

19:58

time, a blanket,

19:59

And Trump did that, and now we're just like,

20:03

eh, you know. But it didn't stand. No,

20:07

well, I mean, he banned, a lot of it did. It didn't all stand

20:09

because it was obviously racist. Yeah.

20:13

But you know, he was still allowed to ban a bunch of

20:15

guns. Well, I think

20:17

that, you know, limiting

20:20

immigration from some

20:22

countries

20:23

may be less racist

20:26

than what was intended. Right. I'm

20:28

not saying it's, you know, the

20:31

way things went was cool. Right. Or

20:33

anything. Right. But it

20:35

didn't stand in its original form where

20:37

the intent was much clearer. Totally. You

20:40

know what I mean?

20:40

Totally. But yeah, yeah. You

20:42

make a fair point.

20:44

Yeah. So Alex is mad at

20:46

Mecha because he's complaining about

20:49

Mexican-related stuff. Sure. And

20:52

then Alex's wife, it turns out,

20:54

is trilingual.

20:55

Student group stands by Reconquista Plan.

20:58

Mecha won't disavow a document calling for recapture

21:01

Southwest. A Latino student

21:03

group that drew attention during the California gubernatorial

21:05

campaign

21:06

of Cruz Mustamani says it will not disavow

21:09

a founding document outlining the aim

21:11

of recapturing the Southwestern United States

21:13

from Mexico. Yeah, some of their websites,

21:15

they got images of dead white people and how they're going to

21:17

kill us. Responding

21:19

to an allegation of racism, an allegation,

21:22

members of Mecha chapter of the University of California

21:24

at Los Angeles showed up in force in an undergraduate

21:27

student

21:28

government meeting Tuesday to protest

21:30

the campus student paper.

21:33

The UCLA reported

21:35

the GOP student group, UCLA,

21:38

Maroon and Republicans have challenged Mecha and

21:40

denounced a founding document, El Plan

21:42

de Aslan, which they assert promotes

21:45

violence and damages the organization's reputation

21:47

as community servants. The text calls

21:49

for the return of the U.S. Southwest of Mexico through members

21:51

said they do not follow the particular ideology.

21:54

That's a total lie.

21:56

My wife speaks French, Spanish,

21:58

Italian. Just

22:01

a couple weeks ago we were in a convenience store

22:05

and there's two Mexicans

22:08

one at the counter one buying something one

22:10

running the counter and it's

22:12

speaking in Spanish saying

22:14

yeah I don't like speaking English I don't like

22:16

that dumb language I don't like

22:18

whites they're sitting there laughing at

22:20

us I'm just standing there with my wife I mean you know oh

22:23

but that's cute and acceptable and funny

22:26

it's real funny

22:28

so sick folks so

22:31

incredibly completely out

22:33

of control and

22:36

disgusting

22:37

as is the case with pretty much all of Alex's

22:39

stories I don't believe this happened nope but

22:41

if it did I still struggle to see how it's

22:44

a meaningful anecdote to inject here Alex

22:46

is trying to assert that matcha a Hispanic

22:48

student organization follows the ideology

22:51

of this ass land document which seeks

22:53

to recapture the southwest how

22:55

does him and his wife overhearing a guy

22:57

say that he doesn't like English and white people

22:59

help make that point

23:00

it doesn't

23:01

but it probably feels like it does

23:03

to the audience because Alex's complaint about

23:06

matcha isn't the point there's

23:08

something behind that story that is the

23:10

more important message Alex is trying to get to the audience

23:13

which is that Mexican people and non-whites

23:15

in general are a dangerous threat to you

23:18

Alex doesn't feel the need to defend his assertion

23:20

that this group that follows the ass land

23:22

plan that's just taken as proven

23:25

because he said it when Alex adds

23:27

the anecdote about his wife at the convenience

23:29

store what he's doing is seeking to reinforce

23:31

the feeling that Mexican people are a threat to you and

23:33

secretly hate you when they think

23:35

you can't understand what they're saying they speak of

23:37

their hate of white people in Spanish when

23:40

you look at it through this lens and with this understanding it

23:42

makes total sense why this is the story Alex's

23:44

mind goes to when he's trying to make his point here

23:47

it makes no sense if it's an attempt to

23:49

prove his matcha point but it's exactly

23:51

what you do if you're trying to heighten the racist fears

23:54

that you're trying to stoke this ass

23:56

land document it was drafted by the first

23:59

nationals Chicana Youth Liberation

24:01

Conference in 1969, there's

24:04

a fair amount of language in it that does encourage

24:06

Chicano nationalism and reclaiming the land

24:08

of their forefathers. Groups like Mecha

24:10

don't expressly follow this document,

24:13

though the A in Mecha does

24:15

stand for Askland, but that's not weird

24:18

since it's a fabled ancestral homeland

24:20

of Aztec people. So I

24:22

don't know, it's a little bit of an edge case,

24:25

I think.

24:26

Yeah, I mean, ultimately his

24:30

point of bringing up these two unrelated

24:33

examples is to remind

24:36

you that it's all Mexican people.

24:39

It doesn't matter if they're related because they're

24:41

all talking to each other. Totally. It

24:44

could just be at a convenience store, just a customer

24:46

and the person there. Furthermore,

24:48

he does not know if they are Mexican.

24:51

If they are just speaking Spanish, they could belong

24:53

to most of the world. But you don't

24:55

know that because his wife might have overheard them

24:57

say, haha, we are Mexican. Yeah,

24:59

that makes sense. Like he would be, hmm. There's

25:01

so many details that he could add to this

25:04

just by making more stuff up. I

25:06

don't like it. I don't like it. Also,

25:09

like just on a really

25:11

basic level,

25:13

what an awful conversation for two people

25:15

to have. Not like an awful, like morally

25:17

awful, just why would you have that conversation?

25:20

What are we doing? Why? I

25:22

would like to pay for my gummy bears. Hey,

25:24

you know what? I hate English. Oh man,

25:26

totally. I also hate the whites.

25:29

Seems silly.

25:32

I don't think it happened. Yeah, doubtful. So

25:34

white people though. Sure. Fucking

25:36

under attack, man. Mm, I doubt it. It's

25:38

a disaster. Really doubt it.

25:40

No. Continuing with the anti-white

25:43

crusade going on worldwide,

25:45

white people didn't invent slavery.

25:49

We mastered

25:51

it. Thank you. Invented by

25:53

the Egyptians, the Babylonians,

25:56

and some forms of it. We're

25:58

going on in Asia.

25:59

the archaeological record shows

26:02

even earlier than slavery

26:04

was developed in the Mediterranean region.

26:07

So what?

26:10

So white people are better because we didn't do

26:12

it first. So it's okay that

26:14

we did it. First off, it's okay

26:16

because everybody's doing it. And

26:18

second, it's we're we're

26:20

the ones who stopped it too. Like

26:23

it God stopped Egypt's

26:25

slavery program. I don't get it. White

26:28

people stopped America's slavery program.

26:30

I don't get the rebuttal

26:32

to like our country

26:34

has a like

26:37

a shame, a stain,

26:40

let's say, because of our history

26:42

of slavery and

26:45

the racist systems that were enacted

26:47

in the aftermath of slavery, the way

26:49

that people were kept out of their ability

26:51

to participate in the economy and were attacked.

26:54

Generational wealth was completely

26:57

eliminated and those ripples still exist until

26:59

the present day for sure. I don't understand how

27:01

a rebuttal to something like that is we didn't come

27:03

up with it. It wasn't.

27:04

I didn't start it. Doesn't mean

27:06

anything. No, I didn't start it. It was just

27:09

going along. Other countries do have

27:11

other relationships

27:14

historically with slavery, and that is for them

27:16

to deal with as well. And some countries

27:18

have some countries have had sort

27:21

of a reckoning. I

27:25

think it's probably better for it. One of the

27:27

reasons I think our country has

27:30

such a difficulty with that history is that

27:32

we're you

27:32

know, a lot of times have been in

27:35

pretty serious denial about it. Yeah.

27:38

I think it hinders the ability to move

27:41

into the future better. Yeah. I mean, the

27:44

the fundamental colonialism,

27:47

the colonialist mindset behind

27:50

the entirety of of all

27:52

of that has not at all gone away.

27:55

Just even considering the shit

27:57

that American groups get

27:59

up to in. in fuckin' Africa,

28:01

trying to colonialize Africa with their

28:04

religion and with their culture and all of that shit.

28:06

It's, it's, it's, and also, you

28:08

know, we didn't invent colonialism, so it's

28:11

okay. It's fine. What? It's

28:13

cool. Totally cool. Hey, it was

28:16

Xi Huangdi's fault, really, when he unified

28:18

China. That's colonialism right

28:20

there. Well, sure, I killed that guy. I

28:22

didn't invent murder. No, I didn't. What?

28:25

So it's okay. Such a weird, such

28:28

a weird way to think. So

28:31

Alex does bring up Africa now, does

28:33

get into some white

28:35

people being

28:36

under attack in Africa. And

28:38

this is a little bit gross. He talks about

28:40

some sexual assault, rape

28:43

type stuff in Africa.

28:45

Great. And I wouldn't play this necessarily,

28:48

but there's a, there's a point to it.

28:51

And then we have these articles here, and

28:53

boy folks, I mean, to look at what's happening in Africa

28:56

to whites is just horrible. Rape

28:58

gangs target whites.

29:01

Racial violence surges

29:03

in Zimbabwe.

29:05

I love how Africa said, be nice, be liberal.

29:08

You know, don't be domineering and controlling.

29:11

And so whites are like, okay, we

29:13

will. And I'm not defending colonialism

29:15

or what it did, but

29:16

it was wonderful compared to what the Africans

29:19

are now doing to each other. And- Wild.

29:23

So they said, here, you take the machine

29:25

guns, we'll be nice. And

29:26

well, the fun has just begun.

29:28

So to be entirely clear upfront, there

29:31

was some and has been some fairly reliable

29:33

reporting that there were gangs in Zimbabwe that

29:35

were using threats of rape as a tool in

29:38

robberies, and in some cases following through

29:40

with it. It is claimed by outlets like

29:42

WorldNetDaily that these attacks were only

29:44

targeted at whites, but I

29:46

don't think that there's a good reason to trust them.

29:49

And it's unclear to me if this was actually the case. These

29:52

people who were committing these acts are horrible and

29:54

should have faced the full punishment available under

29:56

the law, full stop. Yeah. What

29:58

I want to talk

29:58

about, however, is the way that-

29:59

Alex is using this story to claim that things

30:02

were better back when Zimbabwe was Rhodesia.

30:05

Back when the country was under a brutal

30:07

apartheid system. This is not a

30:09

position that takes the problem that he's pretending

30:11

to cover seriously. Returning

30:14

to a genocidal regime is not the solution

30:16

to crime, unless you really believe

30:18

that the apartheid state and all its human

30:20

rights abuses were for the greater good.

30:23

In order for Alex to really believe what he's saying, he

30:25

needs to think that the black population of Rhodesia

30:28

needed to be kept in line by what

30:30

amounted to a very severe police

30:32

state,

30:33

which he shouldn't believe. Based

30:36

on every other thing he claims to believe,

30:39

he shouldn't support that. If I thought

30:41

he could read, that would make me

30:43

believe that a white man's burden is his

30:45

bible. Like, oh, Kipling knew

30:48

exactly what was right, you know? It's

30:51

fucked the fuck up. It's

30:53

uh, it um...

30:55

I mean, it ultimately comes

30:57

back to that colonialist mindset of these

30:59

people need to be civilized

31:03

the way that I am. Well, I actually

31:05

think that it's slightly different.

31:08

It's partially that, but also I think

31:11

for Alex, there might even be

31:13

an element of the civilizing is

31:15

not possible, so repression

31:18

must be the system that's in place. It's

31:22

the slave bible, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

31:24

It's uh...

31:25

It's great, it's good stuff. America's great.

31:28

It's not surprising. Oh, sama! Oh,

31:31

oh, sorry, was that not good?

31:33

Um, look, it was just one

31:35

post of the podcast. There's...

31:39

There's 60,000 people in this room.

31:41

The room is filled to capacity.

31:45

I mean, it's not surprising in as much

31:47

as we've heard stuff like that from Alex before,

31:49

but like, it's still surprising to... It's

31:52

shocking to hear anytime he's

31:54

like, well, things were better under apartheid. I

31:56

mean, I just... If

31:59

you...

31:59

If you can't understand

32:02

apartheid equals bad, then

32:05

we're out. But like, and if you don't

32:07

understand the acts that were being

32:09

carried out

32:10

under that system. Willfully deny

32:12

the acts that were being carried out under that system.

32:15

It's Holocaust denier style.

32:17

Oh, yo, people are exaggerating.

32:20

It was actually really great for 99% of the whites.

32:24

Yeah? Yeah. So

32:26

there's more trouble in

32:30

countries with the history of apartheid apparently. Sure, sure,

32:32

sure. White slaughter in

32:35

South Africa,

32:36

plans made to conduct campaign of genocide

32:39

after Mandela's death.

32:42

While former South Africa president Nelson

32:44

Mandela, 85, scoffs at rumors of his

32:46

ill health, plans are being made by the nation's

32:49

communist party to slaughter all whites

32:52

in the country upon his death. Well, it's already happening.

32:54

Whoa!

32:55

Did you hear about that? I did not. I

32:57

didn't know that all whites were slaughtered. Yeah. You

33:00

may or may not be surprised to hear this, but the only

33:02

place I could find a link to this article that

33:04

Alex is reporting on was on Stormfront,

33:06

the neo-Nazi white supremacist message

33:09

board. Who would have guessed? It's originally from WorldNetDaily,

33:11

but they don't have it up anymore because it's intensely

33:14

stupid shit. As the story goes,

33:16

a ton of very not made up

33:18

anonymous sources told WorldNetDaily that

33:20

there was a plan for a kill off of all the white

33:22

people in South Africa after Mandela died.

33:25

It

33:25

seems that Mandela being alive was the

33:27

only thing that was keeping everything together,

33:30

and when he was gone, it was genocide time. Yeah,

33:32

that dumb piece, Nick. Uh-huh.

33:34

Incidentally, Mandela didn't die until 2013, and

33:37

guess what? When he was in the hospital

33:40

nearing the end of his life, this exact storyline

33:42

started flying around online again. What a shock.

33:44

That black South Africans were going to kill all the white people

33:47

after Mandela died. Weirdly,

33:49

or not weirdly at all, the comments on Stormfront

33:51

about this clearly made up article meant to

33:54

inflame racists have a lot

33:55

of thematic parallels to Alex's rhetoric. A

33:58

lot of talk about how the media would cover.

33:59

up the slaughter because it was against white

34:02

people.

34:02

Kind of makes you think how close Alex and Stormfront

34:05

really are. So, so, so close. Yeah.

34:07

So close. Very, a lot of, you

34:10

know, you could jump from one to the other fairly easily.

34:12

Almost like they're an extreme

34:15

version that he sort of like allows

34:17

to be filtered through his slightly

34:20

less extreme appearance. Yeah,

34:23

almost like they don't have a business to protect.

34:25

Yeah,

34:26

strange. Strange. So Alex

34:28

takes a number of calls. He's got that weird border

34:30

vigilante who's coming on and Paul Joseph Watson's

34:32

going to show up. But I mean, who cares about Paul?

34:35

But he takes some calls.

34:37

And this caller is an interesting question, especially considering

34:40

on a recent 2004 episode, we

34:43

heard a caller ask

34:45

Alex what the military industrial complex

34:47

was. Right. And he whiffed the question. Unable

34:50

to understand. Yeah. Yeah. And

34:52

so here, someone

34:54

asks, what's the deal with the military industrial

34:56

complex attacking the white

34:58

man? Yeah, sure. All right. Let's go to your

35:01

calls. Barack in Canada. Welcome.

35:03

Hello, Alex. How are you doing? Good.

35:05

Thanks. I was going to ask you if

35:08

you could encapsulate and

35:10

explain the military industrial

35:12

complex and how it would

35:15

relate to the banksters and

35:17

these creeps that are targeting

35:19

the white man and, you

35:21

know, how it ties in and just what the

35:23

grand scheme of things is.

35:26

Okay. Let me answer that question in

35:28

a nutshell. Let's get to the nutshell. I am

35:30

interested in the nutshell. So we've got banksters

35:33

and creeps attacking the white man. Sure. And

35:35

a connection to the military industrial complex

35:37

that Alex is in a nutshell for us. Are banksters

35:39

and creeps in the military industrial

35:42

complex or are they just allies in

35:44

the attack against the white man? I think they're on the side.

35:46

I'm not sure. Okay. Here's the nutshell. All

35:48

right.

35:49

Okay. Let me answer that question in

35:51

a nutshell.

35:53

The globalists

35:54

aren't just targeting the white man. They're

35:57

targeting humanity.

36:00

The Romans

36:03

2500 years ago

36:05

Learned how

36:06

to put the Greeks in one district

36:09

the Romans in another

36:12

We didn't invent segregation

36:16

They learned how to you

36:18

know, they'd have a Jewish quarter and

36:21

They would foster the groups hating

36:23

each other and fighting with each other

36:26

The globalists will play off Catholic

36:28

against Protestant Protestant against Catholic

36:30

in Northern Ireland And

36:31

they will carry out terror on both sides They've been

36:33

caught doing it so then the British can come

36:36

in and militarize and take control in

36:38

Africa the UN will play one

36:40

black tribe off against another

36:42

or More ideally

36:45

they will play blacks off against whites

36:47

whites off against blacks

36:49

This is a bad answer to the question that was

36:51

asked and a bad answer in general It's

36:54

completely dishonest in terms of Alex's true positions

36:56

and it's just Factually inaccurate the

36:59

caller was asking about the military industrial

37:01

complex in the banks not about some city

37:03

planning from ancient Rome This caller

37:05

wants Alex to talk about how the Jews are the ones

37:07

who are behind the New World Order and the attack on whites

37:10

It's pretty obvious. Thanks stir. Yeah

37:12

and creeps and creeps Yeah, I suspect

37:15

even Alex gets that hence the dancing

37:17

around the different topic and hoping that this distraction

37:19

works And it does he doesn't go back to the caller

37:22

at all. It just moves along Nice to the other

37:24

issues those examples He's listing

37:26

our cases of globalists playing one side off

37:28

against the other There are cases where there

37:31

were real atrocities carried out by two

37:33

groups of people who had deep Disagreements with

37:35

each other and their cases where

37:37

many people in the rest of the world looked on and failed

37:39

to act in a way That would have helped avoid the severest

37:42

outcomes Alex doesn't care about

37:44

the idea of globalists playing groups off against

37:46

each other You can tell that because

37:49

you

37:49

tell that's the case because the only time he ever talks

37:51

about how the globalists are playing white people and black

37:53

People against each other is when he's deep

37:55

into racist territory and wants to

37:58

reassure himself that his positions aren't common

37:59

Yeah. Alex is

38:02

sincerely reporting on this episode that black

38:04

people in South Africa have a plan to kill all the

38:06

white people when Mandela dies, and he's

38:08

yearning for the better years when Zimbabwe

38:10

was under an apartheid government ruled by

38:12

the 3% of the population that was white.

38:15

He doesn't give a fuck about two sides being played off against each

38:17

other, it's delusional. Yeah.

38:19

I mean, especially since we

38:21

return once more to the globalists

38:24

are doing it. Now, obviously, if

38:26

I were in control, I would do the exact same thing. That's

38:29

the way you get all that power. It makes

38:31

perfect sense that they would do that. Right. It

38:33

doesn't make perfect sense that they would do that because they don't exist.

38:36

You're the only person who does that. When

38:38

I was 14, I came up with a plot to rule the world.

38:40

Yeah, exactly. You might as well have said that.

38:43

Based on comic books and skimming history

38:45

books. Here's what I'll do. I'll play two groups

38:47

off of each other. Okay, good

38:49

work. And now I have proven that everyone

38:51

is doing that. So a caller

38:54

calls in and asks, this

38:56

is interesting because we know that Alex sells gold.

38:59

He's a big fan of selling gold. He sells gold. It

39:01

is the ultimate store of value. It

39:04

is where the globalists can't touch you. Sure.

39:07

You get that gold and you're good, baby. Currencies fail, but gold

39:10

never fails. Right. So a caller

39:12

calls in and asks about how there have been gold

39:15

price fixing schemes. Okay.

39:18

And here's Alex's answer. Okay.

39:20

I see also on the GCN

39:24

network, they were talking about gold and stuff.

39:27

However, I'm starting to do research on

39:29

it. And even that's not exactly

39:31

safe because it's like there was a report

39:35

about, about there was

39:38

a gold price fixing

39:40

scheme by the JP

39:43

Morgan group. And so

39:45

it's like, and so it's like,

39:47

even gold is not safe anymore,

39:50

which is kind of scary. Yeah.

39:52

Let me answer your question. Thanks for

39:55

the call. Nothing safe. The

39:56

wash could be on a house. It could get burned down.

42:00

Normally if you were a

42:02

single parent mother, black, white, it didn't matter,

42:05

and your child made under a B+,

42:08

they would send CPS to your house, they would

42:10

grab you, they would kidnap your

42:12

daughter, and they would take her and have medical students

42:15

cut her uterus out. Now folks,

42:17

if you don't believe me, you just have been hiding under a rock,

42:19

this is mainstream. Whoa.

42:21

Nothing is safe. Just

42:24

to let you know, it took forever to

42:26

track down this article because much

42:28

like a ton of the stupid shit that they've published

42:31

over the years, the article about this

42:33

two child limit, it's not

42:35

on WorldNetDaily anymore, but that's where it comes

42:38

from. What a great place that embarrassingly

42:40

deletes all of its articles from the past. Yeah,

42:42

when it's like, oh, this would be humiliating

42:44

to have reported. Yeah, boy, the future is

42:46

going to be mean to us on this one. So I found someone

42:49

reposting the text of this article

42:51

on a Catholic message board, but mysteriously

42:53

it doesn't really exist anywhere else. There's

42:56

no bill number listed in the article and the

42:58

person they said sponsored it, Marilyn Chase,

43:00

doesn't have a bill that necessarily fits

43:03

that description in her resume. In

43:05

the 2003, 2004 Washington House session, she sponsored 428 bills and I looked

43:07

through all

43:10

of them and what do you know? That's not

43:13

there. And it would be kind of hilarious

43:15

if it were. She's out here pushing

43:17

bills about endorsing Dungeness crab

43:19

fishing and some real Washington specific

43:21

stuff. And then the next day she decides it's time to limit

43:24

the number of children people can have. It's

43:26

weird.

43:27

Anyway, after way too long

43:29

of looking through bills about other things like

43:31

ferry worker collective bargaining rights,

43:34

I found the bill that they're talking about. It's

43:36

titled, quote, promoting population sustainability

43:39

and it's HB three one one one

43:41

from the 2003 2004 legislative

43:44

session. It was introduced on January

43:46

28th and was dead on arrival, ending

43:48

up stalled permanently in the healthcare subcommittee.

43:52

This was a proposed amendment to RCW 43.7 0.1

43:54

3 0, which is a section of the.

43:59

Washington legal code that lays out

44:02

the responsibilities of the Secretary of

44:04

Health. This bill would have added a

44:06

twelfth item to the list that was, quote,

44:09

"...develop and distribute a pamphlet or

44:11

other educational material that emphasizes

44:13

the benefits and importance of couples limiting

44:15

themselves to two or fewer children to

44:18

promote population sustainability." Alex

44:20

is doing a hell of a job sensationalizing

44:22

this proposed initiative that would have no enforcement

44:25

mechanism at all and was dead in

44:27

committee by the time he's on air. Wow.

44:29

Very proud of him. Wow. Yep.

44:33

I mean, you know, there's a part of me that says, that's

44:36

stupid. And then there's a part of me

44:38

that says, what

44:40

we should do, what we should have done

44:42

so long ago is overreact

44:45

insanely to even the slightest bit

44:48

of thing.

44:49

You know, because if you hear

44:51

Alex Jones do this just on the like, maybe

44:54

give a pamphlet to somebody,

44:56

what next step are you ever going

44:58

to take? You know what I'm saying? True. True.

45:01

This is, this is a... Yeah.

45:04

I think, I think that people overreacting

45:08

on the other side of things might

45:12

balance the equation, but it would be equally

45:14

bullshit. Yeah. No, it would be equally

45:16

bullshit, but the current situation where

45:18

they overreact and then the other side backs

45:20

down and goes, I'm so sorry. Yeah. That

45:23

one's not working either. You're right. You're

45:25

right.

45:26

That the solution is a

45:28

fire with fire or whatever. No, I mean, I'm not

45:30

saying that. But you are right. It

45:33

is an unsustainable status quo the

45:35

way things are. Let's give them whatever they want

45:37

because they whine a lot. Now in this specific

45:39

case though, I kind of do think

45:41

that this proposed amendment was stupid.

45:44

Yeah. But the only reason I think it's stupid is

45:46

because if you look at the other 11 items

45:49

on the secretary of health's responsibilities

45:52

that exist in the Washington legal

45:54

code,

45:55

they're pretty broad things. This

45:57

is way too specific to be something

45:59

that's in there. Yeah, it doesn't fit with

46:01

the like I don't think it's necessarily

46:04

a horrible thing to like

46:08

Have as like a an idea

46:10

like hey, you know

46:11

Maybe maybe think I don't actually know

46:13

maybe it's not I don't know It seems like that's more

46:16

in the employee handbook than it is

46:18

in the law You know like right

46:20

here's what we do when you go to work. Sometimes

46:22

you make a pamphlet like that's fine I totally

46:24

get that I wouldn't codify

46:27

into law you must pamphlet

46:29

Yeah, well, but yeah develop

46:32

and distribute. Yeah a pamphlet.

46:34

I

46:35

It's just a job. I don't

46:37

fully know if you know

46:40

it actually is better for everybody

46:42

if you have two or fewer kids I'm not sure

46:44

yeah, I haven't done the research on that so I

46:46

can't speak to it Yeah, but

46:48

well China did it for a long time and then they stopped.

46:51

I don't know what that was one. Yeah This

46:53

is double. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess

46:56

yeah, I don't know I think I I

46:58

I I

47:02

Find it weird

47:03

a little bit. Yeah, not in the same

47:05

way that Alex finds it weird But

47:08

even beyond the weirdness, I think it doesn't belong

47:10

in that set of 12 Things

47:13

there so that probably has something

47:15

to do with why it was dead on arrival and

47:17

never went anywhere. Yeah strange

47:21

Definitely not what Alex is talking about. No,

47:24

but also has no effect on reality.

47:26

Yeah Also, it's important to note how Alex

47:29

is talking about these things like sterilization and

47:31

eugenics that did go on in America But

47:33

he's talking about them in a cartoonish way There

47:35

were horrible things that were done to people

47:38

but saying that if you got under a B Plus that CPS

47:40

would show up and steal your uterus is just

47:42

stupid. Yeah, and what you're doing there

47:45

is you're giving the audience

47:46

like a diet of

47:48

False information about real

47:50

things. Yeah, they

47:52

dis enable them You

47:54

can't deal with reality

47:57

on its own terms right you'll never be able to

47:59

see the trends that did exist

48:02

within the eugenics that

48:05

went on in America that did have racial

48:07

components to it, that did have class

48:09

components to it,

48:12

that will not be available to you

48:14

to analyze,

48:16

to understand, to put into your

48:20

view of how the world exists. Because

48:23

you're just going to be like, oh, they got under a B plus,

48:25

and all of us took the uterus. No, I

48:27

was thinking the same thing. It is

48:29

very much

48:31

by exaggerating

48:34

and transposing the reality

48:38

of what the victims endured, in

48:41

giving it to white people for

48:43

no reason other than so they don't have to deal

48:45

with what the government's

48:48

forebears did to all of these people,

48:51

and then paralyze them to

48:53

keep them from feeling like they need to do anything

48:55

at all. There's no need to rectify

48:57

these horrible crimes

49:00

if they're still

49:02

going on and now they're only happening

49:04

to you. Yeah, it's disempowering

49:07

in a

49:08

malicious way. Yeah. So

49:11

speaking of maliciousness, this same

49:14

caller has another question for

49:16

Alex, and this is

49:18

about three minutes of

49:21

a clip, but I

49:21

wanted this to exist in its

49:24

full context because I think what Alex is doing

49:26

here is just

49:28

monstrous. Okay. Do they have any

49:31

other ways of doing this with these

49:33

women or children besides just

49:35

cutting out the uterus, like maybe-

49:38

Well, I was telling you what they

49:40

did. ... cancer or anything like that. What?

49:43

I was telling you what they did 25 years

49:45

ago.

49:46

Right. Well, the reason why I'm asking is because I've

49:48

always been suspicious about this. I'm

49:51

now 26 years old. The

49:53

first time I had a variant cancer, I was 19. They

49:55

said I had probably had it since puberty.

49:57

Okay. Two years later

50:00

I got it again while I was pregnant with my son.

50:03

Then I had to have a full hysterectomy while

50:06

having my son premature and everything. Now I can

50:08

have no children. My mother was on

50:10

welfare, had three children. None

50:13

of us, my brother, he was

50:15

always in trouble with the law. My sister was on welfare. You

50:17

had all the, did you have all the vaccines?

50:19

Oh yes, all the vaccines and

50:21

everything. I mean, CPS had come

50:23

to our house, I don't know how many times because of all

50:25

the issues going on in our household and so

50:27

forth. But I mean, I'm

50:30

just thinking is this something maybe that they're

50:32

doing because now you look at it.

50:34

Well, Stacey, thanks for the call. Let me

50:36

answer your question.

50:38

Six years ago, the United Nations

50:40

was caught

50:43

in over 130 third world countries with over

50:47

100 manufacturers. That

50:49

was the payoff to the countries to

50:51

do it. The UN would pay their government to

50:53

manufacture the vaccine according to their specifications,

50:56

tell them what company to

50:58

hire to do it. That's how they did the payoff of the politicians.

51:02

They caught them in the tetanus shot in a UN

51:04

program just for women because

51:06

quote,

51:07

you know, we're liberal, we care about

51:09

the women. The boys don't get the tetanus shot.

51:11

No, no, the girls were giving you

51:13

something women.

51:15

And they caught them adding a very expensive

51:18

synthetic female hormone that had been

51:20

bound to the tetanus pathogen.

51:23

And so when the body

51:26

created an autoimmune response to the tetanus,

51:29

it would also create autoimmune response to that

51:31

hormone

51:32

that was released

51:34

during pregnancy and it would

51:36

attack the different glands in

51:39

the female reproductive system

51:42

and would develop polyps generally

51:45

benign but in some cases malignant

51:47

on the ovaries

51:50

and uterus and cause other problems.

51:52

So yes,

51:54

yes, yes,

51:58

I don't know if that's the case with you.

51:59

Fuck you. But a lot of these autoimmune

52:02

diseases they found with the troops and

52:04

in other cases they're

52:05

putting

52:06

very high-tech bio weapons

52:09

that implant

52:10

cancer, DNA and other

52:12

things into the population.

52:15

So what kind of a message are you

52:17

supposed to get if you're that caller when Alex

52:19

says yes, yes, yes. I

52:22

don't

52:23

know if this gets with you. I mean. I

52:25

mean obviously you're supposed to come away with the yes. Yeah.

52:28

Is the answer. Yes, the globalist did this. Yeah.

52:31

Yeah. That's fucking horrible

52:33

what he's doing to her. Yep. He's

52:35

essentially recontextualizing her life for her and backing

52:38

up this bullshit with supposed authority

52:40

and a wealth of knowledge that doesn't exist. If

52:42

she believes him, her life and all

52:45

her difficulties, they

52:47

weren't just things that happened like these

52:49

things like being born into a dysfunctional family

52:51

or getting cancer. They weren't just random.

52:54

They were attacks that were carried out by the globalists.

52:57

Instead of celebrating how resilient she must

52:59

be to have gone through all that she has or empathizing

53:02

with her, Alex is making her a victim of

53:04

his imaginary enemies and he

53:06

won't think about her again for a single second,

53:09

but she's still alive when that phone call

53:11

ends and she trusts Alex enough to call

53:13

in and ask a question like this. So it seems like she

53:15

might trust him enough to take this answer seriously,

53:18

which is grim. He's fucking

53:20

with people. I mean, that

53:22

is him telling

53:25

her because clearly her concern,

53:28

her storyline that she is afraid

53:30

of is that she

53:32

was given cancer as a child

53:35

because she came from a broken home. The

53:38

medical system wanted to erase her.

53:41

Then she survived that and got

53:43

cancer again when she was pregnant.

53:46

So now the medical system doesn't

53:48

just want to erase her. It wants to erase her and

53:50

her child and her ability to

53:53

reproduce, reproduce. And then all

53:55

of this, all

53:56

of this like comes

53:59

down to you. can never ever trust a

54:01

doctor or anything. And

54:04

the chances of her getting cancer

54:06

again are astronomically higher

54:08

compared to anybody else. You

54:11

know, and it is so much like

54:13

there is a world where she refuses

54:16

to go to the doctor for her

54:18

treatments, despite

54:21

the onset of cancer again and I mean-

54:23

Or imagine the like compounded

54:25

risk of other people listening to this who

54:27

internalize that message and don't wanna go see

54:29

appropriate healthcare. It's incredibly

54:32

dangerous and-

54:35

I mean- I don't know. Psychopathic

54:38

instincts. I just can't believe like this,

54:40

this

54:42

if they had not intervened, she

54:44

would have died. Most likely. So

54:46

would her child. You know, like

54:49

they, oh God, that's so fucked.

54:51

Yep. That's so fucking awful.

54:53

Yeah and it's like

54:55

Alex writing

54:58

her story for her. And it's

55:00

a story that only serves Alex's interests

55:03

and makes her like just a, like

55:06

I don't understand.

55:07

I

55:10

feel like

55:11

if I were in her position, I would be far

55:14

more hurt at the end

55:16

of that call than at the beginning of it. Because

55:18

I had just gotten a like confirmation

55:21

of, like you were saying, the worst fear. The worst fear

55:23

that anyone could possibly have is literally

55:25

the entire government is trying to erase you from

55:28

existence. Individually. By

55:30

yourself. Like Will Smith and enemy

55:32

of the state. Yeah. The rest what Alex

55:34

is saying is just nonsense anti-vax shit

55:37

that he's half remembering and lying about. The

55:39

tetanus vaccine is largely given to pregnant people

55:41

in

55:41

the developing world because they're the ones

55:43

who are most at risk and the immunity is

55:45

passed on to the child. Neonatal

55:47

tetanus was a very serious

55:49

risk factor in infant death. So it's why historically

55:52

it's given to women or pregnant people. It

55:54

doesn't have this expensive hormone

55:57

that causes miscarriages in it. That was

55:59

a claim that was. made by anti-vax folks about

56:01

the tetanus vaccine, but it's nonsense. They

56:04

claim that the tetanus vaccine has HCG

56:06

in it and that it was given to pregnant people so

56:08

that their bodies would learn to attack the HCG,

56:10

which is a hormone related to pregnancy, thereby

56:13

making them unable to have children. In

56:15

reality, what they're doing is lying about

56:17

a different birth control vaccine that was tested

56:19

but never released where tetanus was used as

56:22

a carrier for HCG. It's the reverse

56:24

of this. They're conflating that stuff altogether.

56:27

I'm pretty sure we've talked about this in the past, so I'm

56:29

not going to dive too deeply into it again, but

56:31

Alex is essentially pretending to care about people

56:34

in the developing world by yelling about these

56:36

imaginary vaccine concerns when in reality

56:38

all he's doing is putting more people at risk. So

56:41

many kids die from neonatal tetanus

56:43

and it's entirely avoidable if people just take the

56:45

vaccine, which is what Alex wants them not

56:47

to do. In 2000, approximately 170,000

56:51

children died of neonatal tetanus compared

56:54

to just over 14,000 in 2019. And

56:57

that's what Alex wants to undo.

56:59

Yeah. So that's just... I mean... Take

57:03

that for what it's worth. Yeah, what do you say

57:05

other than, this

57:07

is a man telling you to close

57:09

your eyes while you're

57:12

driving your car? Just

57:14

like, hey, listen, I'm not telling you to

57:16

kill yourself.

57:17

I am telling you to close your eyes and drive

57:19

your car at 100 miles an hour. I'm not

57:21

telling you to do anything. I'm just

57:24

saying that is it? The people who tell you not to do that just

57:26

don't want you to the freedom. Yeah, and they're

57:28

the ones who are trying to kill

57:30

babies. And they're the ones who know all about

57:32

the joys of driving with your eyes closed.

57:34

They're the ones who enjoy it the most. Every

57:37

time that you see them driving, their

57:39

eyes are closed, they're going 100. Right. They're

57:42

trying to keep it from you. Happiest people in the world. Ben

57:44

Gazara in Roadhouse.

57:47

So here's where Alex

57:49

is at about his performance today. Yeah,

57:52

okay. We got two guests, loaded phones. I've

57:54

covered 10% of the news and I've done a good job this

57:56

first hour. I did cover a lot of what I wanted to get to. There's

57:59

so much coming up.

57:59

stay with us. Yeah, he's done a good job. He's

58:02

not done a good job. It's just a bet. You

58:04

know, sometimes when you've done a good job, you need

58:07

to pat yourself on the back, you know, and there's

58:09

nobody there to walk on, be

58:11

like, hey, man, you're crushing it today. Killing

58:14

it. Yep. Today is your best work. You're

58:17

killing it. And by it, I mean your listeners.

58:20

Yeah. So

58:22

this is the end of the first hour and

58:25

the second hour Paul Joseph Watson comes on

58:27

and it is just nothing.

58:28

Yeah. Nothing.

58:32

That guy does not have chops. I can't believe

58:34

he's had a career since then for

58:36

longer. Well, it's an incubation thing,

58:38

you know, like he had some kind of nascent

58:41

talent. Sure. And no one

58:43

was really paying attention while he was on InfoWars.

58:45

There's kind of like the open mic scene. Sure, sure, sure.

58:48

He's on and he's definitely an open miker at this

58:50

point. Right. And then I guess he grows

58:52

through it. He figures out how to look

58:55

snarky and like he's maybe

58:57

about to cry and fast cuts in a YouTube

58:59

video and you know, he made it work.

59:01

But yeah, at this point, no one would have been

59:03

interested in it. He is brutal.

59:07

And so we're not going to list any of that. Then

59:09

we get the ranch rescue guy, Corey

59:12

Nethercott. And I found this very

59:14

conflicting because I think this guy

59:17

sucks.

59:18

He's a monster,

59:19

but he also went missing in 2017. And

59:23

I feel weird about that.

59:24

I don't want to talk too badly about

59:27

it because he, I

59:29

don't know, I'm conflicted. Well,

59:32

yeah, nah.

59:34

We can talk about a little bit of what was going

59:37

on in 2004, but I'm not going to dwell on it

59:39

too

59:39

much. Sometimes your choices lead

59:41

to a place. But see, that's the thing. I

59:43

don't know if that's true. I could be completely

59:46

unrelated to anything about his life

59:48

that's going missing. He

59:51

could have, there are a million possibilities.

59:53

True. But it seems scary. I

59:56

will say this. I will say this. When

59:58

you are a person.

59:59

who illegally detains and kidnaps

1:00:02

people, you have a higher risk

1:00:04

of suddenly being disappeared from your car. I'm

1:00:06

just gonna throw that out there. Yeah, it's possible,

1:00:08

but I think that drifts

1:00:10

a little too closely to

1:00:12

some of the ideas that Alex would obviously

1:00:15

have, which is that, oh, the Mexican

1:00:17

government disappeared him because

1:00:19

he was trying to stop their immigration

1:00:21

flow. Oh, I never, yeah, I never considered that. That

1:00:23

would be the conspiracy angle that

1:00:25

someone like Alex would take on his disappearance.

1:00:28

Whereas, the same thing

1:00:30

kind of exists to feel like, yeah,

1:00:33

you're out there detaining

1:00:35

people. Maybe

1:00:38

you got detained. I mean, I

1:00:40

was thinking meth. That was my first thought. I

1:00:43

mean, there is a heavy overlap. That was

1:00:45

my first thought. Well, I do think that some of his,

1:00:50

the way he's communicating doesn't

1:00:52

seem sober necessarily.

1:00:55

Not drunk or anything, but there is a little

1:00:57

bit of a blah, blah, blah, blah. I've

1:01:01

seen some people on meth in my day from

1:01:03

Missouri. So like, it

1:01:06

doesn't give me the same vibe as that, but

1:01:08

there's something up with him. Well, I mean, 2004

1:01:10

meth, that's not 2017 meth. Walter

1:01:14

White hadn't come around yet. Completely different

1:01:17

shit. So this may be 2004 meth. He's

1:01:20

got the schwa-ego meth. Yes, he's

1:01:22

got the, back when

1:01:24

you just got weaned. When you're

1:01:26

picking these stems and seeds out of your meth.

1:01:29

Right, I get you. So he's gonna tell

1:01:31

his side of the story here, and this

1:01:33

is just bullshit.

1:01:35

I was arrested in Hepburnville, Texas on

1:01:38

the allegations of two male

1:01:41

and a female illegal alien, said

1:01:44

that I test-a-whip them. And I assure

1:01:46

you, not only did I not test-a-whip them,

1:01:48

I was 25 feet from them

1:01:50

when Ranch Rescue first contacted them.

1:01:53

Ranch Rescue took them to a, they

1:01:56

were on private property, took them to the gate

1:01:58

to release them. gave them food,

1:02:01

gave them water, gave them blankets, and

1:02:03

told them to leave. Well, we had them at the gate,

1:02:05

we called border patrol, they

1:02:07

wouldn't come out, we called the sheriff, and they

1:02:10

refused to come out. They said, we're not coming out. No,

1:02:12

we're not doing it. By the way, national

1:02:14

French media was there throughout

1:02:16

this. That's the only reason you're not in prison

1:02:18

now. Yes, sir. They took pictures of everything

1:02:21

showing these people complete. They were treated, hell,

1:02:23

they were treated better than we were down there, Alex. Now,

1:02:25

these weren't Mexicans either. Salvadorians.

1:02:28

They were from El Salvador.

1:02:29

That's right. And then,

1:02:32

please continue. Well, what we did is

1:02:34

we filmed everything. We have pictures showing

1:02:36

that nobody hurt these people. We have videotapes

1:02:39

showing nobody hurt these people, and we released

1:02:41

them. And soon as they got into

1:02:43

federal custody, somebody,

1:02:45

and we'll guess who, said, we need to file

1:02:47

a complaint for them pistol whipping you. And

1:02:51

that's what happened a few days later to myself

1:02:54

and another member of Ranch Rescue, went to the Dairy Queen to

1:02:56

get murders, and they swarmed on us.

1:02:58

And they said, why did you beat those people?

1:03:01

And we told them the truth. We told them what happened, and nobody

1:03:03

beat them. And now Morris Dees is trying

1:03:05

to take the property. Well, let me tell you

1:03:07

something about Morris Dees. I talked to him

1:03:09

two days ago. Morris Dees nuts. He wants

1:03:12

to deal. He doesn't

1:03:14

want, he wants to drop his lawsuit.

1:03:17

You need to sue him.

1:03:18

No, you need to do other things to him, Alex. Unfortunately,

1:03:20

it's illegal. I can't do it. So Morris

1:03:23

Dees and the SPLC gave

1:03:25

legal help to the Salvadorians. That's

1:03:28

what's going on here. Yeah. So this

1:03:30

is not how things went. No. According to

1:03:32

the court case, which Casey lost, the

1:03:34

two Salvadorians were walking across

1:03:36

a property on foot, at which point one of the

1:03:38

members of the vigilante posse started

1:03:40

chasing them, firing numerous gunshots

1:03:43

and threatening to kill them. The vigilantes

1:03:45

searched for the immigrants with a trained

1:03:47

Rottweiler attack dog, which Casey allowed

1:03:50

to attack one of the immigrants. Casey

1:03:52

also hit one of them in the back of the head with his gun.

1:03:55

The vigilantes held them at gunpoint, making them

1:03:57

kneel on the ground and subjecting them to a lengthy

1:03:59

interrogation. They were held for

1:04:01

approximately 90 minutes before they let them go,

1:04:03

but not before threatening to kill them again. Given

1:04:06

the fact that this was a matter that appeared before the

1:04:08

court, I'm going to take this account a little

1:04:10

more seriously than this self-serving bullshit. This

1:04:12

guy who previously illegally detained high schoolers

1:04:15

is telling Alex and not

1:04:17

proving any of it. Yeah. Because

1:04:20

you'd really think that if a video of the entire

1:04:22

thing was that he wouldn't have lost his

1:04:25

goddamn ranch. No, no.

1:04:27

That's how video evidence works. Never somebody

1:04:30

is, I mean, they didn't have deep fakes back

1:04:32

then either. Perfectly exculpatory evidence.

1:04:34

So exculpatory. Yeah.

1:04:36

They wouldn't let us put it into

1:04:38

evidence because, well, admittedly,

1:04:41

it was hand-drawn. They hand-drawn

1:04:43

video. It's cartoon- He radically recreated.

1:04:46

So I mean, it does have the Tom and

1:04:48

Jerry kind of animation style to it. Well,

1:04:51

see, one of the things that's really interesting to me when

1:04:53

I hear somebody have all this evidence,

1:04:56

and they're not presenting it. Never.

1:04:59

It feels weird. And when that's a

1:05:01

trend, it becomes even more weird. Interesting.

1:05:04

We have tapes that are hidden that we can't

1:05:06

show anybody. We've showed the

1:05:08

Mexican military moving thousands

1:05:11

of pounds of drugs down here. Nobody

1:05:14

does anything. Well, wait, the tombs on tumbleweed

1:05:16

has the footage of them with the containers

1:05:18

and stuff. I know, but we've got one better than

1:05:21

that. We've got them when they come up the

1:05:23

fence and they say they'll kill us if we don't stop. Well,

1:05:25

why haven't you shown that? Sounds true. Well,

1:05:27

are you there, Alex? Yeah,

1:05:29

we'll talk about it when we get back. Stay

1:05:32

there. Did he edit something out? No,

1:05:34

he just thought Alex wasn't there. Oh,

1:05:37

that's a fast well to-

1:05:39

I think he might've heard the music. Gotcha. That

1:05:42

might've been what was confusing him. Could be. Okay,

1:05:44

okay. But yeah, so why don't you release that? Well- Eh,

1:05:47

you still there, Alex? So

1:05:50

Alex brought up the Tombstone Tumbleweed.

1:05:52

You might remember that name. It's the anti-immigrant

1:05:54

rag that was distributed by Chris Simcox,

1:05:57

who was on Alex's show on a 2004 episode.

1:05:59

covered recently, you might remember him as

1:06:02

the guy who's currently in jail for

1:06:04

child sexual abuse charges. Yeah.

1:06:07

Doing a 19 and a half year sentence.

1:06:10

So cool. Yeah, I really

1:06:12

think that the first time

1:06:14

you kidnap somebody should be your

1:06:16

last time kidnapping somebody. That's

1:06:19

not a three strikes law. I feel like that's not

1:06:22

a three strikes thing. No. I

1:06:24

feel like we should probably be a bit more aggressive

1:06:26

in law enforcement after you kidnap somebody

1:06:28

the first time. Yeah, there's a part of

1:06:30

me that feels like

1:06:33

an act like kidnapping. Yeah.

1:06:35

Takes a certain resolve.

1:06:38

Exactly. And

1:06:41

it's not, I don't think somebody's first crime

1:06:44

is going to be kidnapping generally.

1:06:47

I guess. Kidnapping

1:06:49

is not a gateway crime to like

1:06:52

low level burglary. Anyway, I

1:06:55

feel like, yeah, sure. Let's

1:06:58

go ahead and not let people do multiple

1:07:00

kidnappings.

1:07:00

Yeah, especially if that's the same guy

1:07:02

who is like, hey, we should do

1:07:05

more to that SPLC guy,

1:07:07

but it's illegal. You know? Yeah.

1:07:11

Yeah. Yeah. That

1:07:13

guy's probably trouble. Pretty weird. So the rest of

1:07:15

this guy's interview is mostly just him complaining about stuff I don't believe.

1:07:17

Yeah. That sounds right. So

1:07:21

I don't know. I don't have a whole lot to go on there. Because

1:07:23

like also it's the variety

1:07:26

of like real personal

1:07:28

life complaints that like are impossible

1:07:32

to verify or disprove.

1:07:34

So I find it very boring for

1:07:36

him to be like, and then a cop said to

1:07:39

me, you better sign here. Why

1:07:41

don't you become a snitch? You know, I

1:07:44

I've always been of the opinion that if

1:07:47

you are, say a

1:07:49

person who has a space that

1:07:52

regularly experiences

1:07:55

things that nobody else experiences,

1:07:58

chances are you're not telling the truth.

1:07:59

Maybe there's a ranch

1:08:02

in Arizona that has had illegal

1:08:04

immigrants happen up across one time.

1:08:08

I doubt the Mexican army and hordes of

1:08:10

illegal immigrants are constantly

1:08:12

walking across your land regular

1:08:15

after day after day after day. They've built

1:08:17

a railroad and they are moving straight. Yeah,

1:08:19

exactly. I mean, what are we doing here? Right. So

1:08:22

we have one last clip, and it's Alex getting

1:08:24

to some news rundown at the end

1:08:26

of the show. Sure. And compare this

1:08:29

to his present day

1:08:29

feelings. OK.

1:08:31

Challenger to Putin for Russian presidency

1:08:34

is missing.

1:08:36

One of Vladimir Putin's challengers

1:08:38

in next month's presidential election is missing, and

1:08:41

the police and security services announced

1:08:43

today that they have

1:08:44

begun to search for him. Every

1:08:47

time there's an election in Russia, by the way, there's

1:08:49

a bunch of bombings. And then

1:08:51

Putin gets to say, give me your liberty for security. I've got to secretly

1:08:53

arrest my competition, India,

1:08:56

and Putin's been caught publicly blowing stuff

1:08:58

up.

1:08:59

Oh, man. Wow. Sounds real different.

1:09:02

Boy. Than nowadays. That

1:09:04

seems pretty unforgivable. Yeah,

1:09:06

man. You know,

1:09:09

that's one of those things where it's like, no, no, no,

1:09:12

you do not get forgiveness for those things. Yeah.

1:09:15

I mean, I think that there's a lot of people

1:09:17

who can have changes of heart. They

1:09:20

can have, you know, people can

1:09:23

go from one ideology to another when

1:09:25

they learn more. There's growth that's

1:09:28

possible for people. Totally. But I

1:09:30

think when you're like the ex head of the

1:09:32

KGB who rises

1:09:34

to full stop by

1:09:36

doing false flag bombings and imprisoning

1:09:38

your political enemies and you're still

1:09:41

in power 20 something

1:09:43

years later. Yeah. I think that

1:09:45

maybe you haven't had a change of heart. Don't

1:09:48

think so. I think Alex has just needed

1:09:50

to shift the narrative because

1:09:52

Putin is the kind of world leader that he wants. Yeah. Yep.

1:09:56

So anyway, that's

1:09:56

what's going on there. But in the past,

1:09:59

Alex had a very different.

1:09:59

tone.

1:10:01

I mean that's just one of those

1:10:03

things you know I just don't

1:10:05

think we should forgive world leaders for any

1:10:07

of the choices they make. Yeah

1:10:10

yeah yeah I mean if

1:10:13

we were to redesign a slightly better society

1:10:15

I do think that responsibility should be

1:10:17

much higher for people who accept positions of leadership.

1:10:19

Totally totally. It should be

1:10:22

like yes you are still a person yes you still

1:10:24

have rights but you have

1:10:27

decided that you want to undertake

1:10:30

the very difficult

1:10:31

job of leading a country. Yep. And

1:10:33

what comes with that?

1:10:36

You're not gonna like it. More

1:10:37

responsibilities. Yes. A higher

1:10:40

ethical standard

1:10:40

not a lower ethical standard

1:10:43

which somehow is what we have now. Yeah there's

1:10:45

there's like almost a feeling of like you know it's

1:10:47

hard to lead a country cut him some slack. Yeah

1:10:50

no. It shouldn't be that way. No no no no

1:10:52

no no. But anyway we come

1:10:54

to the end of this and it was racist as hell. Yep.

1:10:57

And I don't know not necessarily the

1:10:59

way I'd like to spend my birthday but you know

1:11:01

you can't always get what you want. Yeah it's true. So

1:11:05

we'll be back on Wednesday

1:11:08

maybe with a modern-day episode or maybe

1:11:10

I was just looking at Twitter while

1:11:12

I was playing that last clip. As

1:11:15

we're recording it was just announced

1:11:18

that Tucker Carlson has left Fox. What?

1:11:21

Yeah the most important man

1:11:23

in the world

1:11:25

is now a free agent. Oh shit.

1:11:27

So maybe this. Info Wars 2.0.

1:11:29

Yes! We're transferring

1:11:33

ownership. No way.

1:11:35

No no no no. Tucker needs something

1:11:38

to do and Alex would be an albatross

1:11:41

around his neck there is no chance.

1:11:43

But

1:11:44

you know outside of Fox maybe he would be more

1:11:47

prone to work with him or have him on something.

1:11:49

Yep.

1:11:50

So who knows anyway. Wow. There's value

1:11:52

in it for him maybe he would do that. Holy shit.

1:11:54

So we'll see how the fallout of that is maybe. Yeah. Maybe

1:11:57

I mean we're recording this before

1:11:59

Alex does. does his Monday show. Yeah. So

1:12:02

the Monday show may be entirely about Tucker

1:12:06

going rogue. Oh

1:12:08

boy.

1:12:09

Anyway, we'll find out how all these

1:12:11

pieces of figure

1:12:13

out, but until then Jordan Wave website. Indeed we do,

1:12:15

it's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are

1:12:18

on Twitter, it's at Knowledge Under Score Fight. Yep,

1:12:20

we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo and Leo, I'm

1:12:22

DZX Clark. We are, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop,

1:12:24

bop, bop, bop, do, do, do, do.

1:12:26

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah. And

1:12:28

now here comes the sex robots. Andy

1:12:30

and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

1:12:34

Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge

1:12:36

fan. I love

1:12:37

your work. I love you.