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Look man, oh I see you?

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Why why oh one? Look over there?

0:05

How is that culture? Yes? Goodness

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ding lost culture race is calling

0:13

and I've already had it with Bow and I've had it

0:15

a copa. I've had it with him

0:17

today. Why are

0:19

you forgetting wires? I normally

0:22

I'm on top of my wires and my chords.

0:24

I don't know, you know what, We don't have to get

0:26

into it everything. There's

0:28

there's a lot of set up and we're doing this in

0:31

a very unusual way already. But

0:33

I T L D R. Boone

0:35

forgot his charger to his computer and now his

0:37

computer is dead as Marilyn

0:39

Monroe, and we can barely

0:41

even do the podcast tonight. We

0:44

had to we had to figure out how

0:46

to use a zoom That's okay, zoom

0:48

interface, we should the zoom interface we're using and

0:50

listen, that's us both growing and changing

0:53

and learning new ways to record, learning new

0:55

ways. And we have to apologize

0:59

to you, the listener, the reader. We

1:02

were a little buzzed. That's

1:04

fine, and that's fine, um,

1:07

thank you for listening to the chaos. That

1:09

was the first part of our two part two hundredth

1:11

episodes Spectacular, where we count

1:14

down the top two hundred culture moments in culture history.

1:16

We Matt made us a cocktail um

1:19

which, in this loose definition is a red

1:21

Bull and vodka. I did. I literally

1:23

kept sort of referring to it as a cocktail.

1:26

It was a Red Bull vodka. But here's

1:28

the tail. I'm yeah. I leaned

1:30

on it for us and we only

1:32

finished about half of those drinks and we were flippy

1:35

FILOPPI yeah loosao.

1:38

I felt. Really you can listen back to it. You

1:40

have the audio. We're slurring through the episode,

1:44

the pacing. We just have to quickly say,

1:46

Matt and I really thought we could count down all two hundred

1:48

things in under two hours. Can you believe

1:50

that that is something that we thought was logistically

1:53

feasible, us saying two hundred things,

1:55

all giving them like some sort of cultural do like

1:57

speaking about them a little bit, and getting to the end. No way,

2:00

No way. This just shows that we have a

2:02

lot to learn about podcasting. We have so

2:04

much to learn, and we thank

2:06

you for being there with us on the

2:08

way to grow, on the way to grow, On the way

2:10

to grow. And if this episode were

2:13

to have a title, it would be called on the

2:15

Way to should we

2:17

call this episode this two part episode um

2:20

two D spectacular? Yes,

2:22

just those two words two hundred spectacular

2:25

part one in part two two? Well? Or

2:27

should we say? And I always feel it's

2:30

good to say in the title what the episode is. So maybe

2:32

it's top two hundred moments of culture spectacular.

2:35

Yes, I like that, or two hundred the

2:37

two hundred colon the two hundred

2:39

greatest moments in culture parentheses

2:42

our two hundred episode. I

2:45

love that, And I really am in no position to

2:47

push back on whatever you propose, I

2:51

I do, I really do. I

2:53

love that. So it's two hundred colon The

2:55

top two hundred moments in culture history. Parentheses

2:58

are two hundred of part

3:01

one, and we have we oh yeah,

3:03

we need the word spectacular in There are two D

3:05

episodes spectacular part one. Should

3:07

it be this in parentheses? Hear

3:10

me out in caps spectacular

3:13

colon two hundred

3:16

colon The top two

3:18

hundred moments in pop culture history

3:21

parentheses are two hundred episode

3:24

Part one, Part one. So the very

3:26

like, it's very like themed to

3:29

the to the number two hundred. The

3:32

double colon is the only thing that's tripping me up.

3:34

It is not done. I think it's spectacular

3:37

colon and then what do you say, m

3:41

dash the top two

3:43

hundred moments in culture history parentheses

3:46

are two hundred spectacular part one

3:48

close parentheses. Okay, yeah, alright,

3:51

that's really good epic. That's like amazing

3:54

movie. It's yes, it

3:57

gives me like Disney Vines where

3:59

it's now the titles are just in word and it's an adjective

4:01

like Tangled Frozen. You know, well, yes, it's

4:03

I feel that when I say it's like a Basil Erman

4:05

movie, I actually immediately understand

4:08

that he's sort of called many of

4:10

his movies by like one word or two words, Rouge

4:12

Australia. What I mean is it has the grand

4:15

of a Bosler movie. It totally it stylistically

4:18

says Basil Erman to me. And that's all I really

4:20

want. Like in Romeo and Juliet, the and is

4:23

plus and that's how you know it's huge and

4:25

that's how that that's his little signature. And mulan

4:27

Rouge has an exclamation point. Yes in

4:30

Australia is in like big white

4:32

letter. It's amazing. It's an amazing

4:34

fun And then, um, what else

4:37

grape Gatsby has Carrie Mulligan Mulligan

4:40

special. I never, I

4:42

never, I never saw it. You know what's unfortunate

4:45

for Carrie Mulligan what she didn't make

4:47

the list? She didn't she did not

4:49

make the list. And you know what's interesting about Carrie

4:51

Mulligan. I sometimes think and feel that

4:54

you used to have as your Twitter

4:56

bio. I am as pretty as

4:58

Carrie Mulligan. Please can firm you

5:00

want to know something? It's still my

5:03

Tinder bio and I'm still

5:06

on Tinder. Isn't that like you're still

5:08

on the very straight tender. I

5:10

would say it's pretty

5:12

gay, is it? Well, I guess

5:14

I just mean like to me, like,

5:17

yeah, it's like it's like through the male

5:19

gaze. It's like very much like a breeding ground

5:21

for like that straight guy who has a picture at

5:23

Machu Pichu. Yes, you know

5:25

what I mean at Machu Pichu

5:28

down Boots. It's actually really culture number

5:30

twenty the gays down

5:33

Boots. Um. You know it's

5:35

funny you get you get all types there. Yeah,

5:37

I would imagin types of queers. International.

5:40

Really it's really an international site. Um.

5:43

And speaking of international

5:46

international, we

5:49

have for you a list not

5:51

just of the top one hundred

5:54

best things in pop culture. But it's two

5:56

hundred because this is famously as you

5:58

may have in for our two

6:01

episode or a second part of what

6:03

is a two episode spectacular celebration.

6:06

And today what do we have today?

6:09

We have the top one moments in culture

6:11

history. So we we finished our

6:13

first half of this. Number one oh one

6:16

was, of course Furbies. Yeah, Furbies.

6:18

We touched on how furbies were a real toy

6:20

that sort of stormed the moment and

6:23

definitely took center stage. And those girls

6:25

were absolutely in stores, but

6:27

then they were as soon as they were in, they were gone

6:29

because they were selling like hotcakes.

6:34

And we tease

6:36

this at the end of the last episode, the last

6:38

the first half of this, we said, number one is

6:41

going to blow your socks off, and you will have no choice but

6:44

to agree No. Number one is culture

6:46

and you're going to have to agree on that one. You're gonna have

6:48

to concur on that one. You're gonna have

6:50

to um not in

6:53

approval on that one. Yes, you're

6:55

gonna have to coastline and that one. Yeah,

6:57

And so what do you say we get keep going

6:59

with our top one hundred. This

7:01

is unbelievable. I can't believe this unbelievable

7:04

Top one hundred moments of culture. Yes,

7:07

yes, okay, Matt, let's kick it off with number

7:09

one. Alright, Number one hundred is

7:12

Tia and Tamara Maori.

7:14

We all remember these twins, sister sisters,

7:17

the sister sisters themselves.

7:19

I got my own mind, do my own

7:21

stuff in my own time. Oh come on. And

7:24

also, not only were Tia and Tamara amazing,

7:26

but this also brought to us the Harry

7:29

Harry who you know, some people they knew

7:31

prior to this. This is really the culture that influenced

7:34

her. Us to Jack. Oh yes,

7:36

I mean Jack. You got to see

7:38

her full glory and she built

7:41

up the goodwill and her time, and sister

7:43

sister, I feel like for our generation, for us,

7:45

you know, stupid millennials. But now we

7:47

get to follow her on Twitter and see all of her tweets

7:50

and they're so funny. And but you think you can textualize

7:52

that against Jack Harry on sister sister,

7:55

I feel that, And you know, actually, what I'm

7:57

realizing is that Tia and Tamara are number one

7:59

hundred and culture. Really, Jack Harry actually

8:01

deserves her spot here. So we're actually gonna call it

8:03

this rule number one hundred sister

8:06

sister, moment moment,

8:08

sorry, not rule. This is famously something else moment

8:11

number one sister, Sister,

8:13

It's not just and tomorrow, although we love tomorrow

8:15

on the road to marry on the rail. Alright, So this

8:18

is an example of us taking too long on

8:20

one item of culture and we have to keep going.

8:23

So Number bowen is Briefe

8:26

by Taylor Swift amazing

8:28

breath Now, can you elaborate on what makes the

8:30

song so amazing? Well, this song is amazing because

8:32

it's really it's just guitar. There might

8:34

be some percussion on it, but it's her. It's a duet

8:37

with Colby Kela on the beautiful

8:39

song about breaking

8:41

up, growing from the breakup,

8:43

growing from separation. It's a gorgeous song. I really

8:45

love it from Fearless and from Fearless arguably

8:48

her best album. Well that's

8:50

an argument that we could have, but

8:52

you know, it's her one of two albums that is one best album

8:55

at best at boubum. The Grammys to

8:57

sort of assign value on award

9:00

is very kind of capitalist of you. Anyway,

9:03

moving on to number it is of course

9:05

Breathe too, am by An

9:07

analyx now if I might, I just

9:09

didn't take the floor here. This song was

9:12

good before the Code Black episode

9:14

of Grey's Anatomy, and then it became culture

9:16

because of the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy.

9:19

Thank you very much. When Mr

9:21

Kyle Chandler first said, exploded

9:24

ass all over that hospital,

9:27

which at the time was called Seattle Grace has

9:29

now got other names. But

9:31

honey, when Miss Meredith Gray had

9:34

to fly all the way back because of the explosion

9:36

of Miss Chandler, holy hell. And

9:38

you know the soundtrack of that moment

9:40

was an analyc singing

9:43

breath Breathe, just

9:46

breathe amazing.

9:49

Okay, Matt's what's number number

9:53

is? Of course Breathe by Faith

9:55

Hill. I mean, incredible

9:57

song, the number one Breathe. It's

10:00

it edged out in and now like and Taylor

10:02

Swift by a Hair.

10:04

I would say this song Breathe

10:07

is It's really iconic because

10:09

it's got that sort of thing a song

10:11

does where it starts with the same lyric as it ends with.

10:14

If you gets me that

10:21

the course is explosive. It's my favorite kind

10:23

of country song where she just lets

10:25

it go in there. Hard song to

10:27

sing secretly, hard song to because of the

10:29

suppossed that

10:32

part. It's like a transition into your head voice

10:34

from like a belt. Also not for nothing, but Faith

10:36

Hill epic in that video which she's in the dress kind

10:38

of dancing around the like, um, what's

10:41

it like? The like is it a field? It's

10:43

not a field, it's like a It's like, um,

10:46

what the hell is that's? It's

10:48

like a stone guard a stone field? Is

10:51

that what they? I don't know, but miss

10:53

faith Hill she was. She knew

10:55

because it was on her call sheet, all right, and

10:58

I don't know. Was it the top Breathe or Breathe

11:03

by Michelle Branch and one

11:05

and only ron Com movie trailer song.

11:09

It's unfortunately the best brief. We we spoke too

11:11

soon. If I just bread fill

11:15

the space between, oh know,

11:18

everything is all right? Wow.

11:22

Hotel Paper a huge record. She

11:24

had many huge records, such as The Spirit Room,

11:26

such as you know Hotel

11:28

Paper. Hotel Paper was a room for squares her or

11:30

was that John May the

11:32

male Michelle Brand? I get people with guitars

11:35

mixed up. Um, but yes, she was iconic,

11:37

and we just really quickly talk about Michelle Branch wrote

11:40

The Spirit Room when she was seventeen, like come

11:42

on, Billie Eilish, come on Lord vibes, come

11:45

on Lord vibe, come on, Lord Mind, come

11:47

on, Lord Mind. Thank you. I've mind

11:49

more like Lord Mind, which you need

11:51

to write an amazing I'll met seventeen Michelle

11:53

Branch breathe one amazing song.

11:56

Another song where you just belt

11:58

and then you gotta pull back. Oh, is it incredible?

12:00

And also we don't hear enough covers of this. Kelly

12:03

Clarkson, I'm looking at you, Kelly Oki

12:06

all right, and so we're moving on to number ninety five.

12:08

Talked about an amazing young woman who had an impact

12:10

on the culture. It's Taylor Momson

12:13

Ingrinch. Oh, she was the most amazing

12:15

Cindy Lou. And to think of what

12:17

you are doing when you are assigned the role

12:19

of Cindy Lhu, an iconic woman in culture,

12:22

and to bring her to the screen and do her just

12:24

justice. I mean, I'm giving a standing

12:26

ovation. I'm giving a standing ovation. Speaking of Hayte

12:28

the Hill, she ended up singing a faith Hill

12:30

song where she Christmas written by Ms.

12:32

Mariah, which Matt Rodgers

12:35

wastes no time in teaching

12:38

the children about that fact. I always teach

12:40

the kids that whenever they come to one of

12:42

my performances, I make sure to tell them. You know, Mariah

12:45

Carey actually she wrote where

12:47

are You Christmas? And Faith Hill sang it, and then

12:49

Taylor Momson, I'm sorry, but acted

12:52

it because she acted the hell out

12:54

of this role. She acted

12:56

the hell out of this role. When Cindy l who is supposed

12:58

to be sad, you are sad. And then she

13:00

grew up to play a mean teenager in

13:03

Gossip Girl. Wow, she

13:05

really she was a versatile

13:07

one. And then of course she was in the band pretty

13:10

Reckless, Pretty Reckless. Never forget

13:12

a Perez Hilton favorite. Oh my god,

13:15

that two thou seven two eight, What a

13:17

time. It was Taylor Momson's peak

13:19

and we sent her a lot of Now, speaking

13:21

of this film, number ninety four is

13:23

where are You Christmas? From the film which

13:26

we have discussed, which we have discussed, well,

13:28

we should actually make the distinction. Grinch is the title

13:30

of the animated version of it. It's

13:33

my title, It's Matts title. But the full title

13:35

of the Jim Carey Classic, Jim

13:37

Carrey, Christine Baranski Classic, Taylor Momson

13:39

classic is how the grin stool Christmas, right,

13:42

I just shortened it from my own purposes to um.

13:45

But this song is amazing.

13:47

I mean, you know, it's about a young girl

13:49

sort of confronting the fact that as she gets

13:51

older, the meaning of Christmas changes,

13:54

and sort of as a comparison to life

13:57

and how as you get older, you know things,

13:59

they don't lose their meaning, but they change their meaning.

14:01

And it's about the unknown and what's going to

14:04

happen as you grow older. If Christmas changes, will

14:06

I change to? What else will change? A beautiful

14:08

song, a beautiful sentiment, and only the number

14:10

one songwriter Mariah Carey could

14:12

have written it. Absolutely, And you know it's a beautiful,

14:14

gorgeous lyric. What my life is changing,

14:17

I'm rearranging, rearranging

14:19

amazing. You see it, Yeah, you

14:21

see it? Thank you. Now let's go to ninety

14:24

three. Number ninety three is Jim

14:26

Carrey as Grinch and the film

14:28

Grinch. This performance

14:31

was culture Christmas, culture christ this culture.

14:33

He was giving you everything. He was giving you slapstick,

14:36

he was giving you some voice comedy.

14:38

Absolutely, he was giving you hours in the makeup

14:41

chair, painful hours in the makeup chair. And

14:43

I'm sorry, but if Meryl Streep is going to

14:45

get nominated for as many Oscars as she has.

14:47

Where is Jim Carrey's nomination for Grinch?

14:50

And I'm being sort of you

14:52

know, your come on, you know, silly

14:54

about this, but also in a real way,

14:56

where is even one Oscar

14:59

nomination for Jim are and his many

15:01

solid performance sexism in Hollywood?

15:03

I think it's sexism towards green

15:06

Bean esque comedic actors,

15:08

and it has to stop right now, say

15:10

it's sexism towards white male actors.

15:12

It's sexism towards white male actors. To have Jim

15:14

Carrey go nomination list. He deserved

15:17

a nomination for a tune of Sunshine. I want to say

15:19

he deserved nominations for the following films Eternal

15:22

Sunshine, The Seminal

15:24

Grin, the Mask,

15:27

No Liar, Liar, Okay,

15:31

Truman, Yes he

15:33

should have at least four Thank you queen okay

15:36

for Truman Show, for the queers to love Truman

15:38

Show. That's how you know it's a real work,

15:41

real piece of work. This was a real work.

15:44

Now we have the next

15:46

one here, and this is one of my favorite rules

15:48

of all. Number ninety two, The birth

15:50

of Yang Important moment

15:54

this. I wanted to take this moment off the left, and

15:56

I said, you have to leave it on because the birth

15:58

of bowen Yang was a moment in culture.

16:01

We would not have both. Can everyone

16:04

that's listening right now understand you

16:06

you don't the fact that you are given bo

16:09

Yang and you have to understand

16:11

that and stop being so stupid because

16:14

the bow and Yang is a gift in this world and

16:16

he has come to this amazing place and

16:18

he's going very far, and the birth of

16:20

bow and Yang is a moment in culture. And

16:22

you sitting at home understand that your

16:25

life would be completely different without and you would be listening

16:27

to this right now. No, you would be listening

16:29

to this. And you all know that Matt Rodgers

16:31

is the joy is

16:33

not my son. And all this, especially

16:36

when it comes to this post, this brings us culture

16:39

number. Rule of culture number. That

16:41

don't impress me much. What

16:44

was this? This was a Shia Twains I'm not I'm

16:46

so sorry, no Twain song. I got

16:48

her visually mixed up with faith um

16:50

and I'm so sorry. This also kind of took This video

16:52

also took place kind of like in the desert. Yes,

16:55

Trug remember and

16:58

the Leopard, but I mean Shnaia. We're

17:01

not talking about Shania now, because Shania now

17:03

is a little is a little wild. But

17:05

we're talking about the song that don't impress them me much,

17:07

or the moment that don't impress them You'll notice that I

17:09

wrote here that don't impress much. I

17:11

didn't say a song. I didn't necessary necessarily

17:14

say a video. I said that don't impress

17:16

me much. And that's because that

17:18

don't impress on me much. I believe it's

17:20

a movement beyond just the

17:22

song I think that don't impress them me much became

17:25

something like I don't think so, honey. You

17:27

know it's actually rot a culture Number thirteen

17:30

that don't impress on me much is the

17:32

original I don't think so,

17:34

honey. And it's such an

17:36

amazing time to announce bone

17:38

and I will be doing a show called that don't

17:40

impress on Me much, and it

17:42

will not happen. We're not doing it. We're not doing

17:45

especially, not a thing. Um.

17:47

I gotta say. The reason I love

17:49

that don't impress them me much is it's

17:51

an answer. So many times in life

17:53

people are put like putting forth questions

17:56

yes, and it puts the onus on you to

17:58

come up with the answer. But the question is

18:01

so your Brad Pitt and the answer that

18:03

don't impress me, and

18:05

it's it actually is more about It says

18:07

more about you than it does

18:09

about the other person. Because this other person could

18:12

be doing something impressive. It just don't impressive.

18:15

And so honestly, whenever

18:18

I see anyone stepping up to me and

18:20

trying to give me grief, I

18:23

just say, I look at them in the eyes, I

18:25

maybe pat them on the shoulder, and I say that

18:28

don't impress them. And

18:30

you should try it at home. You try

18:32

it next time your parents are getting at you. Try

18:35

it next time your boyfriend hasn't cleaned the dishes,

18:37

or maybe if he does clean the dishes, just say

18:39

that don't impress on me much. It's

18:42

the original. I don't think it is.

18:44

Move on to number ninety, which is Obama

18:47

election. Who could down?

18:49

Who could forget? But there were two, right, well,

18:51

there was two Obama elections. And I think

18:53

that that this moment a moment

18:55

of culture. Number ninety Obama election is

18:58

when you really understand

19:01

his election as as less

19:03

of a moment and as a singular

19:05

cultural shift and event I see

19:07

you know what I mean. I just feel that Barack Obama

19:10

is an amazing man and culture and

19:12

he had to be on the list. You have to be on the list.

19:14

So when you say Obama Obama election,

19:17

you mean the election and re

19:19

election of Obama. Yes, the election

19:21

into the cultural consciousness of Obama.

19:24

Yes. Um, what I'm really saying is

19:26

the two election that I'm talking about,

19:28

the moment when he got I mean, you

19:31

can't beat that. No. Do you remember where you

19:33

were? I was in the East Village. I

19:36

remember people in New York City running

19:38

out into the streets cheering, and I was like, this

19:40

is beautiful. And I had just moved there, like

19:42

you. I'm as an Union Square and

19:45

I remember being so elated

19:47

that he was elected. And I remember running down the halls

19:50

and it was n y U. So everyone was heading to

19:52

Union Square in Square and there were

19:54

these like every other like

19:58

dorm room. There was like one conservative

20:01

kid like sitting in his bedroom like crying,

20:03

like because his parents had obviously scared

20:05

the daylights out of him that like if Obama got elected,

20:07

they were gonna lose other money or whatever. Well,

20:10

it's wonderful that it was so

20:12

funny the pendulum swung the other way in such

20:14

a crazy destructive manner.

20:18

No, eight years later, Well, here's

20:20

the thing. If you remember how good you felt

20:22

when that happened, put that energy towards

20:24

November. Biden

20:28

to the White House. Joe, we

20:31

love Joe Biden, I said. I said

20:33

to myself. I was like, you know what words I don't want to hear

20:35

anymore. We need to restore the soul of

20:37

America. I'm like, this is the most

20:40

garbage, like nothing of

20:42

a like placation I've ever

20:44

heard. This is a battle for the soul of America.

20:47

But which is another way of saying to

20:49

me that like, uh, this is

20:51

not our country, right that, like anytime

20:53

something terrible happens when

20:55

it comes to Trump and or racism

20:58

or both, it's like this isn't our kind. It's like,

21:00

no, this is our country. And you're saying that we're

21:02

restoring the soul of America is like kind

21:05

of not to use this word. It

21:07

is like that's a similar type of gas line where

21:09

you're like this, this is not the America. I know that

21:11

we're better than this. It's like maybe we're not. Like,

21:14

first of all, let's break it down into three

21:16

parts, right, restore. The

21:18

word restore means to return to or

21:20

like sort of like uh,

21:23

rebuild in a similar fashion to what we've

21:25

experienced. So

21:27

that to me is saying we'd

21:30

like to return to something. And I think

21:32

we've been establishing in the past couple of years

21:34

that America is not something to be returned

21:36

to, it's something to progress into.

21:39

But okay, so then when you start restore

21:41

the soul, the soul to me is a dog whistle

21:44

because it's like a little bit slightly

21:47

religious imagery. And also it

21:49

says something about like the soul, like

21:51

the ancestor like within. Like again,

21:53

it's this like kind of bullshit that reverts back

21:55

to a prior and again,

21:57

this is not what American needs to do. American needs to

22:00

grass and move forward. And then you say of America,

22:02

which gives people this like false sense of duty. So

22:04

really in every single part of that

22:07

slogan is bullshit.

22:10

And um anyway, so we

22:12

love Joe, Thank you Joe Biden

22:15

free um and anyway,

22:18

So anyway, yes, number ninety is the Obama election.

22:21

I just want to say a point. I really quickly just we blasted

22:23

through the Grinch series, the Grine

22:25

trio. Christie Branski did not make the list.

22:27

She did not make the list. She she

22:33

never looked hot. Her hottest actress in Hollywood at the

22:35

time. I believe she was on Maxim,

22:38

So I believe she was on Maxim, g Q, Vogue,

22:40

all of it. She was. She had the hottest woman titles

22:43

um, but she did not make the list. Who

22:45

did make the list is number eighty nine. This

22:47

is when Nick Jones got

22:50

adult hot. Remember this,

22:52

I remember that's talking about this. When was adult hot for you?

22:54

I think it was around the time when

22:57

he was releasing the song Jealous. It

22:59

was a realization for me that not

23:01

only was Nick jonas a man now,

23:04

but he was a hot man and I, unfortunately

23:07

was powerless to whatever was going on. And

23:09

it's that kind of thing where it's like, what he

23:12

really was a kid one day and then was

23:14

not the next, and

23:16

it was it was it was really like a

23:19

quantum leap. There was no transition,

23:21

yeah, because it's jarring, right. It's sort of like

23:23

one minute he's like a cute kid in the

23:26

band, and then it turned you turn around

23:28

and he's like not only like sort

23:31

of a sex object, but like explicitly

23:33

sexual and performing sort of

23:36

his own sexuality for gay men

23:38

in a way, which is like it

23:41

was such an assault, but one that I welcomed.

23:44

I I welcomed it. Two, there

23:46

was a very interesting discourse around when

23:48

there was a photo of him on some yacht wearing

23:51

short swim trunks and like looking sort

23:53

of thick in the thighs and everyone saying daddy,

23:55

daddy, daddy, and everyone just being like,

23:57

wait a minute, this is not like thick, like

23:59

or people calling thick and people calling him daddy.

24:01

So it's like we're not there

24:04

quite yet, and we're

24:07

and I think that's when the term

24:09

thick got a little bit, you know, common

24:11

deer. Let's say, So, so you think

24:13

he wasn't actually thick and people were calling him

24:15

thick? Yeah, I gotta say, that's that's

24:17

my thought. I think in that picture he

24:20

what happened was he was wearing a two small bathing

24:23

and he did look like a little love handily.

24:26

It's a it's an optical illusion, yes, in

24:28

a way that I will say, understanding

24:30

that the bathing suit was too small turned me

24:32

on in a way I can't even describe.

24:35

We're not saying that it wouldn't turn anybody on it

24:37

was appropriating the word thick. I didn't say

24:39

that. I didn't say the word appropriate. It's just

24:42

um, then what are you trying? The word got

24:44

started to get moneyed a little. I see, I see.

24:46

So you're saying, save thick for thick, save thick

24:49

for thick. Okay, I understand. Regardless

24:51

of Nick jonas Um made the list, made

24:53

the list. He made the list here and let's go to number

24:55

eight eight. This this was a moment culture.

24:58

This is the hairstyle of the

25:00

Rachel. Huge moment.

25:02

I mean, women everywhere were so taken

25:05

by Jennifer Anderson as Rachel and her hairstyle

25:07

that they said, I want to get the Rachel. I

25:09

have a question for you, gone, did

25:11

the Rachel have to exist in order for the Karen

25:14

haircut to exist? You know the Karen

25:16

haircut. It's very ka sort of like yeah, that kiss

25:19

and sort of like who called it like like a waterfall

25:21

in the front and scissors in the back? Yes, um

25:24

that I think Sudy said that one time. She said that

25:27

that hairstyles like a waterfall in the front, like a

25:29

front bank that's like a cascade, and knives

25:31

in the back like dangerous porcafine

25:33

back. I don't think

25:35

that one had to walk so the other

25:38

could run. Um, but I do think

25:40

that they occupy a similar space

25:42

where they're so iconic they

25:44

earn a name, and so I think they're iconic

25:47

sisters. But the Rachel

25:49

was at a moment and here's the thing, does

25:52

the Karen still sort of exist? I

25:54

feel like the symbol for like like in

25:57

names when someone is being a Karen, or

25:59

when it's like like you have Patrick from SpongeBob

26:02

acting a Karen

26:04

and they put on the keke

26:06

Oslin here on Patrick. Yes they do. Yeah, Okay,

26:08

so that's actually really interesting. Um.

26:10

I feel my thing is like they're both asymmetrical.

26:13

Rachel and the Karen are both asymmetrical, and

26:16

they're both like bad and they're both

26:18

they're both wild and they both

26:20

got the highlights, and it's just their similarities.

26:22

It's a really really do share a family.

26:25

And now I am fully laughing thinking about the

26:27

Karen hairstyle and how really

26:29

stupid it is. I had an art teacher

26:31

who had that and it was just like, do

26:34

you think No, I'm not gonna say anything crazy.

26:37

I'm just saying it's like it's almost like

26:39

someone who is toying

26:41

with our sexuality a little bit. It's like sort

26:44

of like putting on a hairstyle that's

26:46

like audacious. Listen, you

26:48

can make the argument that to have

26:50

a Kiren is to queer hairstyle a little

26:53

bit. It definitely is something. It's

26:55

queering hair in a way you wouldn't

26:57

get that if you weren't, if

26:59

you weren't by nature a little queer, and

27:01

that you wanted to try out weird things,

27:04

you know. Bell Hooks has described queerness

27:06

as wanting to try out weird things,

27:09

to try out weird things, and that

27:11

is what the Karen embodies and

27:13

what There's a difference between having the Karen hair

27:16

and being a Karen and behind we should

27:19

Yes, and Karen's

27:21

come in all shapes and sizes and genders,

27:23

but karen haircut

27:26

is very specific. Yeah, and it is a little

27:28

queer, I would agree. And I also think it's

27:30

actually really our number eighty seven,

27:33

which is describing things

27:35

as cool. Now, I

27:37

have always thought about

27:39

this, Yes, where did cool come

27:41

from? And when did it start? I wonder did they were they

27:43

sing in the seventies, sixties, fifties, Where

27:46

did but do you remember

27:48

where you were when you learned the word cool and what I

27:50

meant. I think that honestly, it's

27:52

one of those words. It kind of cool kind

27:54

of reminds me of like the word sucks, where it's

27:56

like I knew I wasn't supposed to use it until it was a certain

27:59

age, like you weren't supposed to use no. I

28:01

think that I was, But it's like it kind of reminds

28:03

me of that same thing where it's like I knew I

28:05

was. I knew I had like my

28:08

own opinions

28:10

on the world when I was able to be like, I think

28:12

that's cool. Like when I could describe

28:14

something that I deemed to

28:17

my taste as cool, I was like, Wow,

28:19

I have like sort of ownership

28:21

over my own opinions, and you

28:24

know what I'm saying. I would say that this

28:26

moment describing things as cool as really an

28:29

individual moment from every day. It comes

28:31

for different people at different times, exactly. I don't

28:34

think we have to track it back to when people

28:36

started using it. I just feel like

28:38

when you discover for yourself

28:40

what the word cool means and that you know how to use

28:42

it, like that is a cultural moment. I

28:45

just think, think about it. Like in order

28:47

to describe it's almost like so

28:50

the word cool would mean

28:53

um on the on the sort of side

28:55

of being cold. And

28:58

to describe that as something that is good

29:00

or valuable that is so interesting

29:03

to me, Like it had to start somewhere

29:05

like, hey, that's cool, Like it's not hot,

29:07

although you would call something hot to

29:09

say good, isn't it interesting?

29:12

It's very interesting. We don't talk about

29:14

thermo political

29:17

things in this. We don't talk about the political

29:19

things in this ONEK you do you remember where you were? I

29:22

had a kid in the fourth grade when I just moved to America.

29:25

His name was Shane Collins, and he

29:28

he was putting forth the

29:31

claim that he had invented

29:33

the word tight, like using tight.

29:36

The word tight was invented

29:39

um right outside of Bush Gardens,

29:41

um in Tampa Bay in the

29:43

year nineteen seventy

29:46

nine, thank you. And it's

29:48

important that we say that it was invented by

29:51

a m kid named John

29:53

David. John David, And it was said

29:55

to his two friends, Trevor and Tyler,

29:59

and he was talking thing about the tigers

30:01

at Bush Gardens. He was he was saying, though,

30:03

these tigers are tight, and actually,

30:07

um, there was an earthquake

30:10

and no one was hurt, but

30:13

the culture was changed. Was

30:16

there an actual earthquake that registered? There

30:21

was a sort of cultural earthquake.

30:24

There was, And even though there was a cultur rollers quake,

30:26

it did not make the list. It did not make the list.

30:28

Words tight did not make the list. Now number

30:30

eighty six, I don't know about I love this. I

30:32

put this on. It is Matt Rogers

30:35

wearing a harness on game show, a harness

30:37

over a shirt, and that is queer. Actually

30:40

was had a lot to do with me not wanting

30:42

to appear shirtless on camera. It um,

30:45

but I'm happy that sort of

30:47

you know, the harness was at least

30:50

something. It looked good. You know, I've never really

30:52

been like a harness type of you

30:55

don't have to be. No one's forcing it.

30:57

I've worned, I've worn it a couple of times. Doesn't

31:00

it doesn't feel right on me. But for

31:02

in that moment, I'll do a jock strap. Oh,

31:05

we everyone loves everyone should try to wear a drop strap.

31:07

I think it's great. Try sleeping in one.

31:09

Oh, it's really make you feel fabulous, make you feel

31:11

fabulous. The moment

31:14

of Matt Rogers wearing a harness on Game Show that

31:17

I think is wonderful that it all culminated

31:19

towards was the gift that's being widely used now

31:22

of Matt, which is him saying

31:25

um used widely used.

31:28

It's you saying I'm attracted to you, let's

31:30

have let's have sexual intercourse. Oh it's

31:32

I'm horny, I'm so horny, let's

31:35

go have sexual intercourse. So that

31:37

actually was a note from Quimby

31:39

because I said, I'm so horny,

31:41

let's go fuck, and they said, hey,

31:43

we have to take out the word fuck. And I was like,

31:45

Okay, well I don't want to say I'm so horny, let's

31:47

go have sex. So I was like, let's

31:50

say I'm so horny, let's go have

31:52

sexual intercourse, which I think

31:55

is what adds value to that.

31:57

Thank you. I had to save it. I

31:59

would have preferred to have just said and

32:03

that have been the clue. Anyway, watch Game

32:05

Show. If you don't know what we're understanding, If you don't

32:08

understand what we're talking about, watch please watch

32:10

Games Show. Please go seek at this gift.

32:12

I think you can use it in so many album Get this gift.

32:14

Get this gif um.

32:23

Okay, So number eighty five is something I can agree

32:25

with. It is Stockard Channing

32:27

as Rizzo in Greece. There

32:30

are worse things I could do, Then put

32:32

Stockard Channing on the list.

32:35

She is iconic in this movie.

32:38

Huge, in this movie, I mean Rizzo,

32:40

what an iconic character in film and musical

32:43

theater, in culture. Look

32:45

at me, I'm Sandra d like the

32:47

classic bullying song. She

32:50

is so good at being

32:52

mean and like cold and removed

32:55

but remaining like a ball. Yes, she

32:57

is one of a kind. And Stockard sang

33:00

there are worse things I could do. She's sang there

33:02

are worst things I could do. She gave it body,

33:05

she she knew how to sing, and she was

33:07

acting first. And let's

33:09

just say other people have tried to sing.

33:11

There are worse things I could do, and they've done well,

33:14

but it's not the Stockard,

33:16

and I guarantee it's one of those things where

33:19

we will never hear a version like that. And

33:21

that's not necessarily because it

33:23

was she got the best voice of all time or whatever,

33:25

but she's just iconically musically

33:28

acting that song huge. It's a perfect

33:30

marriage, double helix of acting

33:33

and singing, and she got a hickey from KNICKI famously,

33:35

famously let's keep going, Let's keep

33:37

going. Number eighty four. This is a moment in culture,

33:40

the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror.

33:43

I mean that is culture. You

33:45

cannot get closer to a cultural

33:47

moment that deserves its spot

33:50

at number eighty four. I mean, come

33:52

on, it soared to number

33:54

eighty four on this. I can't really think

33:56

of more iconic theme park culture than that damn

33:58

building that has been struck by lightning,

34:00

and inside are the screams of people plummeting

34:03

an elevator, and iconic merging

34:05

of story and theme park attraction, iconic

34:07

merging of um,

34:11

what's his name? Sterling?

34:14

Sterling's voice, that

34:17

iconic voice that I could listen to that voice

34:20

another dimension. I heard something. I think Rod Slings

34:22

got a hot voice. I mean I can see that.

34:24

I think he was hot. Honestly, it's that kind of hot

34:26

voice where it's like it's a little bit nerdy, And that's how

34:29

you know it would sound really like

34:31

like hot and horny during sex, because like,

34:34

I don't think a masculine voice on the other end

34:36

is always with a way to go. Sometimes,

34:38

like you want to hear someone

34:41

going for it wouldn't be tough like this. Oh

34:44

no, oh no,

34:47

I don't like that. Actually, no,

34:49

don't say my name is hardest on game shoe.

34:52

Oh my god, Oh my god. What does

34:54

that sound like that you're doing? It sounds

34:56

like it

34:59

kind of sounds it

35:01

sounds like it's some some character. It

35:03

sounds like,

35:07

okay, that like

35:09

that, rod stop Okay. Number

35:11

eighty three a huge moment in culture.

35:13

Hillary Duff, Let's say it together.

35:16

I'm sorry, Hillary Duff, Lizzie

35:19

McGuire and more. You

35:22

know what I love about Hillary Duff. She

35:24

will not stay silent because I

35:27

remember when covid first broke out, she

35:29

would She just posted a bunch of stuff on Instagram

35:31

stories. Remember this, everybody, She was like, Hey,

35:33

are you fucking idiots going out to bars? Stay

35:36

the fuck home. She like, she has

35:38

the shortest views and she's not afraid to let

35:41

it light up. I mean, one of the only

35:43

celebrities that hugged us at Vulture Fest of

35:45

her own volition. Also

35:48

iconically on Younger she

35:50

is Lizzie McGuire. She was

35:53

the biggest pop star of like those Disney

35:55

girls at the time. When she came at she

35:57

said so yesterday and

35:59

she said, come Clean Clean

36:02

the iconic theme song to the Hills. Oh

36:05

my god, wait now the Hills was Yes.

36:09

Um started a feud

36:11

with Faye Dunaway when she was what fifteen

36:13

years old? Yeah? What have you done today? What

36:16

have you done today? What were you doing at fifteen? Not? Certainly

36:18

not starting a feud with the

36:21

old Hollywood icon Fade

36:23

Dunaway. Yeah, certainly not and also not for

36:25

nothing. But she was carrying on feuds with Faye Dunaway

36:28

and Lindsay Lohan at the same time. That

36:31

that is iconic. That is literally

36:33

her saying, I want the biggest mess

36:35

that's in her seventies and the biggest

36:37

of mess that's my young under

36:40

fifteen ass age. Let's start

36:42

a feud with Start a feud, bitch, and I'll still

36:44

end up on a premium

36:47

cable sitcom, Yes and

36:49

Multicam, and you will still listen.

36:52

You will still listen to my dance records.

36:56

Have you ever been on Molly while

36:58

Coming? While Come Clean is playing a remix

37:00

of Coming? Have I ever been on Molly while Come

37:02

Clean? As everybody else I have been around you

37:04

when this happens, when it's unbelievable,

37:07

it's safe to dance on masks

37:09

again, and you are able

37:11

to maybe be on ecstasy.

37:15

Come come clean, Coming clean, Coming

37:17

clean. When she goes with that part apart

37:20

from somewhere, she goes, I'm coming

37:28

Hilary Duff came on the

37:31

record and we all just kept dancing.

37:34

I'm sorry, just the beginning that song.

37:37

Let's go back back to the

37:39

beginning, and then she goes

37:42

back to the sun stars

37:45

all alive, so

37:47

stupid. Hillary Duff

37:49

is telling us to go back to the beginning of time,

37:52

and that's how she starts her song about love. That's

37:54

that's an acid trip. It's a mom it's it's

37:57

it's it's rolling, it's every drug

37:59

experience. Let's go back back to the beginning,

38:01

back to the sun, the stars all

38:03

aligned, A huge

38:06

song, a poet and I mean so yesterday,

38:08

the metamorphosis the album Huge, Come

38:11

on, I'm actually like shaking, shaking

38:13

um and number eighty two will have me continue

38:15

to be shaking. And that is super

38:18

based by Nicki Minaj. Iconically

38:21

our origin story, iconically our origin origin

38:23

story, matten Eyes origin story.

38:25

As friends, our friendship is founded on in

38:27

our identities as barbs. People forget that super

38:30

Base really locked

38:33

it in Song of the Summer. It was clearly

38:35

the song of the Summer, and I remember hearing it

38:37

and like checking in with you, like did you

38:39

hear this one? Because it is deep in the album.

38:42

It is a bonus track. It wasn't even on her album,

38:44

it was it was a bonus track or swild

38:46

bonus track. Taylor Swift sang it on

38:49

a radio show and Nicki

38:51

Minaj credits Taylor Swift with the super

38:54

Base moment, and that's an iconic

38:56

moment in culture for Taylor Swift to say,

38:58

I like the song super Bay, And then the

39:00

world turned their attention to super Base

39:03

and they had realized what Nikki had created

39:05

on that one, which is I think the

39:07

best pop wraps off of

39:09

the past since two thousand as

39:12

the century so far, esther esther,

39:15

Dean hook

39:18

hooks, and a video that matched the

39:21

sonic moment that Ice Motorcycle,

39:23

are you getting the pink lepper body suit

39:26

and all the guys in the peptobysmal pool.

39:28

I mean, it's unbelievable, It's so good. It's

39:30

a huge moment, a moment, a moment, a moment that

39:32

was Nikki's beginning really um

39:35

number eighty one, speaking of the ladies,

39:37

good luck book in that stage, speak of

39:40

Rihanna to Sierra, who could forget

39:42

this Twitter fight? Can you get into what

39:44

you tell the story? This story is

39:46

I don't know the specifics, but Sierra was on Fashion

39:48

Police and the picture of Rihanna came on,

39:51

and Sierra took umbrage

39:53

with the fact that Rihanna has not been kind

39:55

to her at certain award shows or events or

39:58

concerts. Something She said she'd route

40:00

to her restaurant, route to herd a restaurant even better.

40:02

So Rihanna catches the wind of this and then tweets

40:05

at Sierra, UM, I mean I mean my

40:08

bad seeds and I forget to tip you savage,

40:11

and then Sierra said.

40:13

Sierra said, I don't have time for this. I'm about

40:15

to get on stage, and then Rihanna

40:18

said the famous words more fatality

40:21

words. Good luck booking that stage

40:23

you speak of, I mean good

40:26

luck booking that stage you speak of, just

40:29

the word choice. I mean you can't beat that

40:32

good luck booking that stage you speak And let's

40:34

not gloss over the

40:37

savagery of oh

40:39

my bad seed, did I forget I forget

40:42

to tip you because you must have been the absolute

40:44

waitress. Don't go on fashion please and

40:46

talk about me. I didn't get in your

40:48

business. Good luck

40:50

booking that stage. You speak

40:52

up. It's amazing,

40:55

it's it's the most savage.

40:58

You should have known that she was going to release a

41:01

lingeree line called Savage Frenzy. And also,

41:03

didn't she tell you that she was a savage?

41:05

Didn't she tell you in that tweet

41:08

that shook the standems

41:10

before they were real, before stands,

41:12

before stand culture really took shape.

41:15

Number eighty Michelle Williams

41:17

and Anne Hathaway scenes and Broke Back Mountain.

41:19

We're not going to talk about the men. Enough has been set, enough

41:22

has been said, enough has not been said about the

41:24

ladies have broke back Jack

41:26

nasty, Jack nasty that scene

41:30

Fish, There's

41:33

really not much to be said. I mean, Anna Hathaway,

41:35

I wasn't like We've talked about this on blank Check

41:38

famously David Simson and Griffin

41:40

Newman's podcast. But

41:42

that's like the Anne's first kind of Prestigi role

41:45

after Princess Diaries, after Ellen enchanted.

41:47

It was a surprise to see her doing something like this.

41:49

Yes, and she's like Conican at

41:51

that last phone call when she calls Heath up

41:54

and tells him what happened to Jake,

41:56

Joel and Hall. Unreal Michelle talk

41:58

about Michelle. I mean, Michelle is amazing every

42:01

frame of this movie. She's incredible. And she has

42:03

that amazing scene where she sees them kiss, totally

42:07

silent reaction of that, and then

42:10

the confrontation scene at the end of the movie when

42:12

she says Jack Twiss, Jack

42:15

nasty, you don't go up there to fish

42:17

and she throws the plates and screaming,

42:19

oh my god. I feel like

42:21

they recreated this scene of her watching

42:23

them kiss. In the new show Love Victor.

42:27

Wow. And you know, Bowen and I have just watched,

42:29

well, I watched every episode.

42:32

Bow and watched the last episode and was impressed.

42:34

I was very impressed. I was also very stunned. That's

42:37

true. But um, there's a moment

42:39

at the end of the season that sort of

42:41

calls back to Brokeback Mountain

42:43

and I won't say what it is, but I will do

42:46

this. I'm going to shout out the

42:48

lead actress from Love Victor. Her name

42:50

is Rachel Hilson. This girl

42:52

is a talent, Yes, she is a talent

42:54

and Bowen. You can even see I all

42:57

I got were like maybe five minutes

42:59

total with her, even like I don't even think you saw

43:01

her speak much. But no, I didn't see

43:03

you speak much, but her acting it

43:05

hit me like a ton of breakfast. She is a

43:08

select She is so good. This

43:10

I'm telling you like Love Victor and also Anna

43:12

Ortiz is queen and

43:14

everyone's good. And honestly, I liked Love Victor

43:17

and I'll talk about it on another

43:19

episode of the pod, but there's more to be said

43:21

about it anyway. Okay, Number seventy

43:23

nine, Taylor Swift turning around

43:25

to see large crowd cheering. Now,

43:28

this is a This is like a common motif, and

43:30

Matt's clapping. I'm clapping because it's what

43:32

would we There would be so

43:35

much less to enjoy in the world if Taylor Swift

43:37

didn't turn around to see crowds and look the way

43:39

she looks. You wouldn't get the you know, sixth

43:42

single off of the album music

43:45

video that's just the concert footage, you know what I'm talking

43:47

about, And all her albums she has the

43:49

sixth single, Once the Cycle has died Down,

43:51

she releases in a music video quote unquote

43:53

that's just the concert footage, and half of it is just

43:55

be a roll of her turning around to be surprised

43:58

that the audience is there and smiling. Also,

44:00

if you've ever seen her in concert, she does still

44:02

do it to an extent. Did she do a reputation

44:05

tour. Reputation tour, she was kind

44:07

of like in a moody, So she

44:09

was famously in a mood during Reputation and

44:11

she was not like necessarily looking around and

44:13

smiling at the crowd, although you did get a few moments

44:15

throughout that she was happy that we came, but

44:18

mostly she was in like kind of a sour mood

44:20

during reputation, um, which I think

44:22

was the brand. But then you know she

44:25

was back to turning around and smiling

44:27

during the Lover era, and um,

44:30

I guess we're not getting a Lover tour. She

44:32

is rescheduling it to next year. She was

44:34

doing she was doing Lover festivals in different

44:36

cities. I will be seeing that. I'll be because

44:39

I loved Tay. And when she turns around to see

44:41

a crowd, like she's surprised every single time and happy

44:43

that everyone showed up, like it never happened before. That

44:46

was brand culture for me. But what

44:48

is the seminal moment of it. We know it

44:50

is her in the beginning of the after

44:53

Welcome to New York, of course, turning around

44:55

Peak Peek in that like teal sequined

44:58

letter jacket, letterman jacket and

45:00

just being like, oh my god, hi six people

45:03

like Hue so

45:05

at nine by the time she had gotten

45:07

to that level, it's like she was turning around and

45:09

like she was like but it

45:11

was a little bit less like I'm shocked

45:13

you came, and it was like, I'm so happy you guys

45:15

are here. It was that it was the

45:18

white girl version of Michael Jackson

45:20

popping up from the stage and people in like

45:22

Budapest like fainting for

45:25

like and like screaming for like, you know, seven

45:27

minutes straight. It's the white girl version of Beyonce popping

45:29

up, rising from you know, a

45:32

hydraulic system and everyone losing their

45:34

minds as she glares at everybody

45:36

in her beautiful, intense way, the white girl version

45:38

of as Taylor Swift turning around over her shoulder

45:41

being like, hey, y'ah, so glad you guys are And also

45:43

this was also the really this is the

45:45

beginning slash peek of iconic

45:48

Taylor Swift white girl stomp.

45:51

Once she would sort of stop from

45:53

one area of the stage to another,

45:55

and that was the extent of the corio, and that

45:57

was just kind of it. And then our reputation there was like actually

46:00

a lot of dancing, but the

46:02

white girl stomp was never more happening

46:04

during tell her stuff behaviors

46:06

on stage, chiefly her turning around to see

46:08

a crowd and being shocked that culture

46:11

moment and culture. Let's move on this, and

46:14

it is Marcia Cross on Desperate

46:18

huge Brint camp I feel that

46:20

this was the character that is most identifiable.

46:23

I would say the visual like picture

46:25

I have in my mind of Desper house Wives is of

46:28

um Marcia Cross as Brie

46:30

and the sort of energy I feel

46:32

of what I remember it is, of

46:35

course, but the image is Brive

46:37

Anti camp In in a tight bun

46:40

bringing a huge dish with Rex.

46:44

Wow, that's so funny that you think of the tight bun.

46:47

I think of that like a little swoop like

46:49

sort of miss Honey from the hair

46:51

that she had that like suburban freak.

46:54

She had that And for some reason

46:56

the scene that I keep thinking back to it, there's several

46:58

scenes that I think back to when I think of death for Housewives. But

47:00

one of them is season two premier. This

47:02

is after Rex dies and she's

47:05

just standing outside her house with

47:07

like a huge dish

47:10

or something, and the other wives scheme where they're like, whe

47:12

are you okay? She they would want this, and

47:14

they're like, no, we're okay. Do you need anything? She's

47:17

like, well, what a waste? And

47:19

she like throws away up giant dish and it's like, oh,

47:21

Marcia Cross, that is the moment,

47:23

Marcia Marcia Eva, I'm

47:26

gonna give some props to Terry.

47:28

I would give Terry props. I would give Terry props.

47:32

I mean Lynette's Gavo or Felicity,

47:34

are we gonna give her props? I give them all props,

47:36

but I don't give any of them as much props as Nicola.

47:39

Nicola who offered to slap to the face while

47:41

on set. I never forget that, and had to be electrocuted

47:44

to die. She was electric well, she

47:46

died like four different ways in an episode, but um,

47:49

which was kind of iconic, to be honest with you. But

47:52

yeah. Interestingly enough, when

47:54

I was thinking about Desperate Housewives for this list

47:56

and I know you agree. I just felt it's

47:58

Marcia. It's the Marsha Show. It's

48:01

Marcia when she iconically screamed

48:03

out in grief when she found out in the last episode

48:05

that Rex had died of the first season. The

48:08

moment, the like pearl clutching

48:10

moment. This was like back when Desperate House was was like

48:12

the first scripted show to make a splash after

48:15

like years and years of reality, right, And

48:17

I remember, like the moment was that dinner

48:19

party scene where she and Rex had just gotten into a fight, and

48:21

then like they're all the couples

48:23

are sharing funny stories about their significant others

48:25

and then you know what I'm talking about, Rex cries when he

48:27

ejaculates, huge,

48:31

unbelievable the clutch.

48:34

It's actually real culture. Number nine when

48:38

cry cries was

48:42

clutch. And now we're

48:44

gonna move on to number seventy seven,

48:47

which is Monique

48:49

and Mariah in the final scene of Precious.

48:52

You know this writer, Jeffrey

48:55

Fletcher is his name, won the Oscar

48:57

for Adapted Screenplay for this film. And you

49:00

one that disputes that you could

49:02

win an Oscar for the scene the scene alone. Oh

49:04

my god, they got Monique

49:06

the Oscar. I mean, she won

49:09

the Oscar walking in the door with this one. And

49:11

also Gabbarett is incredible in the incredible

49:13

and Mariah is put

49:16

some on miss White's come

49:18

on, come on, miss White, come on, Miss Weiss.

49:21

She really grounded the scene

49:24

and the three

49:26

of them were stunning. This was an incredible

49:28

scene, one of the best scenes I think, I'll say

49:30

of this century. I have

49:33

to I have to think that Mariah is aware

49:35

of the diametric sort

49:37

of opposite of her, Like she's

49:39

getting such a grounded scene in like such a

49:43

like the polar opposite in terms of a

49:45

person from Mariah Carey, right, like a

49:48

social worker. Yeah, who's just

49:50

sitting there like hey, like all right. It's honestly

49:52

weird though that she's It's it's interesting

49:54

to see her capable of such a grounds. It was

49:57

amazing. And also to be honest with you,

49:59

like you think no

50:01

part of her is like tipped off by Monique

50:03

that she should be bigger, you know what I mean. She really understands

50:05

her function in the movie. And it's a great

50:08

supporting performance. And you

50:10

know that that whole moment is

50:13

it's so vivid, it's so good. This scene

50:15

is amazing, and you know, if you want

50:17

to see actresses tearing it up, it is a hard

50:19

story to watch, but it's also you know, I think that's

50:22

amazing. Um, precious,

50:24

you must, you must, let's keep going. This

50:27

is number when

50:29

it was revealed and Frozen that it was about

50:31

sisters and not man. This

50:34

was iconic feminism

50:38

because when you hear love in a Disney film, you

50:40

think, oh, heterosexual couple, romantic,

50:43

but no, this is the love of sisters.

50:45

This is the love of sisters and it runs

50:47

deep, and only the love of sisters

50:50

could save them in the end. Actually, if you watch

50:52

and remember I think you're Anna,

50:54

I'm Alsta. Yes that is

50:56

true. But which I've thought

50:58

of this many times. I would there be the Ana

51:01

in some way? Why she just

51:03

gets to live. I have not seen Frozen two. I should

51:05

say Frozen too literally sucks

51:08

and I say it on the record, Okay, but Anna

51:10

feels like she's

51:12

She's the one who's living the most life and Elsa's

51:14

the one who's put upon, which I I'm fine

51:16

with beings. But Elsa has the

51:19

incredible she has the incredible

51:21

talent within and she has the

51:23

unbelievable power of all the stars

51:25

and all the weather and all the moon

51:27

and the universe within her. And when she learns

51:29

to let it free and control it, she is unstoppable.

51:32

So it doesn't matter that Anna is off having fun,

51:35

but you are Anna and everywhere you are Christin

51:37

Bell that and just like Kristin

51:39

Bell, I will figure it out. Let's

51:43

keep going. Number seventy five is

51:46

Tina Turners Eighties come Back. This

51:49

was a moment because you know that she did

51:51

not have an easy time of it with Mr Ike. And

51:54

also, can we say we need to stop

51:56

with the Ike Turner and Tina Turner jokes. So

51:58

let's just say that I was never I'm

52:00

always like I that's a pro cluture

52:03

for me. Whenever someone casually is like, oh, like,

52:05

I'm going to be the tire Tina, I'm like, wait a minute.

52:08

No. Also, he was her monster

52:10

and brutalizer. Tina Turner,

52:13

We love you. The eighties come back, The

52:15

eighties come back? What's love got to do with it? The iconic

52:18

care simpler, the best

52:21

everything, just the

52:24

end to end, simply the best with the

52:27

best, Yes, the

52:32

best. Honestly,

52:34

she is a wild vocalist power

52:36

and you know what I wanted to do for my birthday when I came

52:38

to New York, what I wanted to go see

52:40

t You know, we were we got tickets

52:43

to to see what. We had tickets to see Tina And

52:45

it was that week, I think it was three days before and

52:47

then they closed it down and who knows if it will even

52:49

open again now it's closed.

52:52

Until we kept talking

52:54

about anti culture this, let's

52:56

speaking of Broadway. This is rule

52:58

number seventy four. An Ariana Grande

53:02

from Wicked and

53:05

Unbelievable, Unbelievable and somehow like

53:07

the vote, the Ariana Granny vocal runs worked when

53:11

she goes from the lass favorite

53:15

Yeah you did it? That was hell

53:19

and that look of joy on her face right

53:22

before she hit the note, and also she had gone we

53:24

can't tell about it, but she had gone through something tough

53:26

a cop few days prior, and then was

53:28

on that show right after

53:31

the news of that dropped and slayd

53:33

that song down and to watch her get so happy

53:36

like before she was singing it, and while she was singing it, I

53:38

was like, this is a triumphant moment. And

53:40

it was kind of like, you know, Bernardette Peter singing

53:43

Hello, Dolly, It's like, Okay, a child of Broadway

53:45

has returned. Oh, yes, she

53:47

has returned to the stage, miss star

53:49

of thirteen and now number seventy

53:51

three, and I talk about her return to the stage. Missy

53:54

Elliott revealed Katie Perry's

53:56

super Bowl performance. It was a reveal.

53:59

I do want to point out that Matt Rodgers wrote in

54:01

Ruvealed she was revealed

54:04

when Missy Elliott was revealed during

54:08

Katy Perry had the Super Bowl and

54:10

that giant Katie was wearing. That giant oversized

54:13

like literally every single one of Katy Perry's

54:15

outfits of us both were hideous like

54:17

like, which is totally consistent with the rest

54:19

of her career. And I say that in the most loving way.

54:21

And we gotta say, I mean, Katy kind of nailed the performances.

54:24

I watched it the other day. Literally, I don't really

54:26

know what else you would want from a Super Bowl performance.

54:28

I think hers was amazing. Oh the girls have

54:30

done amazing. Girls. I have very few notes for the

54:32

girls. Um,

54:35

but Missy, Missy showing up, get

54:37

your freak on, is that what they did? Know that they your freak

54:39

gun and work it and work it. Um and then

54:42

lose control huge.

54:44

Do you remember lose control when

54:47

that would come on at school dances? Clear the floor,

54:49

Clear the floor, I gotta I'm sorry to bring

54:51

up ecstasy again. Go ahead. That

54:54

has to be a sick out experience. I probably

54:56

experienced, not lose control that past

54:58

that Dutch when Paris that

55:00

Dutch comes on and you're on Molly. I think I

55:02

turned to you. I was with you one time when this happened

55:04

to one time, the time that's happened that I can remember,

55:07

I turned to you and I was like, mean Girls is

55:09

an amazing movie. Yeah, that's what I said.

55:11

I'm sure that you did, and I'm sure

55:13

I agree to because I'm

55:15

I'm I'm rolling and I can only think of Rachel

55:18

McAdams being carried out by all these jocks onto

55:20

the field. Truly, I'm kind of we're

55:23

actually going to get to that later. Two

55:28

is Fergie singing Italian.

55:31

This was a moment of culture and it's worth

55:33

seeing the movie nine just to

55:35

watch Bergie sing the Italian. And it is a

55:37

joke to me that the Oscar nominee

55:39

from that is Penelope Cruz, who was great, but

55:42

she wasn't. Fergie singing the Italian as

55:44

a as a you know, sort

55:47

of prostitute down by the river.

55:49

Do you feel like Fergie outperformed Dayla tay Lewis.

55:52

Listen to me and look me in the eyes. Yes,

55:54

I do think. I think she was a shining

55:57

light. And let's

55:59

just say, Daniel day Lewis, he

56:02

did not hold a candle to Saratagin.

56:07

Italian is a crazy ass.

56:10

If you want to know about the love is

56:14

Psycho. I remember watching uh interview

56:16

with her about the movie and she goes, well,

56:19

you know what, I was singing the Italian.

56:21

My character Sarta Gina. She sings

56:24

the Italian so many times, and

56:26

so every time I said the Italian,

56:29

I wanted it to be a different sort

56:31

of meaning. Like you know, when

56:33

you say the Italian, it's like the love of

56:35

food, the love of sex, the

56:38

love of coature, the love

56:40

of the Italian

56:43

men. You know, it's so many things

56:45

that come with being Italian. And so if you

56:47

listen, every time I'm singing the Italian,

56:50

I'm singing about loving a different part

56:52

of being Italian. And I was like,

56:55

my jaw is on the floor, and not only

56:57

the words, but you re enacting, well,

57:00

I actually can embody. Literally

57:02

when I was right now, I was her in

57:05

my mind's eye, I saw myself as

57:07

first. It makes sense, It makes you

57:10

being a vessel for Fergie makes complete

57:12

sense to me. Do you remember the iconic

57:14

glass note? Do it?

57:17

No? I can't, And

57:20

she's like belting her big

57:22

old tits off what I

57:24

walked out of nine. I

57:27

stayed for the Italian. I stayed for Kate Hudson.

57:29

I think it was first. You didn't even see

57:31

Marian even

57:33

saw spiel Lauran. I think I just maybe

57:36

it was good. I

57:38

just left before like the end. I was just like I

57:42

saw what I came to see. I saw the women. I went out. I saw

57:44

it two times in theaters, once on a date. It

57:46

was like the third date I had ever been on in my life.

57:49

Oh my god. And so

57:52

this is this is just it feels like a betrayal

57:54

for me that you did that. It's me and Sudy's

57:57

favorite film. I know it is. It's so

57:59

bad. I

58:01

just I want to I just want to gay culture.

58:04

It's gay culture. But it was also like

58:06

good La Luna.

58:08

It's Sophia, she's a hundred, I know singing.

58:11

Kate Hudson has amazing hair, and she goes

58:14

and it's such a it's such a performance,

58:18

Kate. It's never looked better in a movie. Wait

58:20

now, I feel like while you're here, we have to have to watch

58:22

it, and we also have to continue. Let's go. Number

58:25

seventy one is Normany.

58:28

I mean, Normany has really

58:30

stormed into the scene, and she has stormed right onto the

58:32

list, right onto the list. But you and I were talking,

58:34

you know, you and I not to get pat ourselves too

58:36

much on the back, but you know we've been saying, we've been

58:38

saying, guys, the actual

58:41

star a Fifth Harmony is Normany La

58:43

Cabello, who you

58:45

know, has doing a lot of it, is going through a lot of

58:47

growth. And despite her you know, very anti

58:50

black past, she's now putting

58:52

the work in with very anti

58:54

black past and is now putting the working with

58:57

Mr Mendez and they are doing whatever

58:59

they can to to to to

59:01

do right by by everybody and everything. We

59:03

don't even want to talk about Camilla during it's

59:06

you and let's just say Normandy. We've been

59:08

talking about her for years. Normany. It

59:10

was always the best answer in fifth, Fifth Harmony.

59:12

If you look at the work video Normany is turning

59:15

it out from

59:17

home. She is crawling up and down that

59:19

damn bulldozer. And then when you got

59:22

my motivation, it was do

59:24

you remember where you were? Do I remember

59:26

where I was? I remember that day so vividly.

59:29

I don't remember where I was, but I remember

59:31

that it was constant watching

59:34

of the video Capital m moment, talk

59:36

about a moment in culture, motivation

59:38

video, just just calling

59:42

forth these cultural visuals,

59:46

paying her respects to Beyonce. And

59:49

here we thought that out

59:51

of all the girl group sort of b players,

59:53

that we already had the number one motivation when

59:55

Kelly Rowland came out with motivation, and

59:58

then Normany came out with her own motive vation

1:00:00

and she said, uh, look out for us

1:00:02

girls who are not the lead

1:00:04

singer of the group with the second lead vocalist vocal

1:00:06

Okay, look out for us too. And

1:00:08

we we gotta say Motivation by Kelly Roland is

1:00:10

this fantastic another bop but just didn't

1:00:13

make the list

1:00:17

because it didn't make didn't make it. What did make the

1:00:19

list is another song number seventy get

1:00:21

Out of My Way by Kylie Minogue,

1:00:24

I mean from the Aphrodite album, Huge

1:00:27

album, This is a huge album and

1:00:29

this song the video go

1:00:31

on about this the video you got

1:00:34

all these gay men, these

1:00:37

upside down triangle men running

1:00:39

around. I talked about

1:00:41

their silhouettes. They're they're just like beefy up

1:00:43

top top heavy, broad shoulder, just

1:00:45

like fucking voguing the house

1:00:48

down, the light projection

1:00:50

designs and then the chairs. Kylie

1:00:53

Minogue in a red outfit, just walking

1:00:56

up to this cliff, this golden lit

1:00:58

cliff during the bridge. It's

1:01:00

an incredible song. Goddess.

1:01:02

She was feeling her goddess iconography

1:01:05

there and this moment, this moment

1:01:07

on the list is indicative of a much larger

1:01:09

career that is Kylie Minogue, and we do respect.

1:01:12

I'm gonna say something to you. You need

1:01:14

to get more into Kylie. You need to get into

1:01:16

the back catalog. I'm actually surprised this it

1:01:18

took this long to come up because

1:01:21

you don't know that much Kylie. It would that be fair to say I

1:01:23

don't have like a deeper You know who loves

1:01:25

Kylie is Lewis Forte and Grand like

1:01:28

all the l A gays like I love Kylie

1:01:30

Minogue and I just have this sort of I

1:01:33

don't know I don't know who fills the space where

1:01:35

Kylie Minogue needs to go. Here's what

1:01:37

you do. Start out looking searching

1:01:39

for her interviews. She there was no more

1:01:41

charming, deep pop diva interviews

1:01:44

than she. She's second to maybe

1:01:46

share like in terms of being charismatic

1:01:48

in interviews, and like once you see them in an interview, like yes,

1:01:50

I love you, I will follow you to the end of the earth. Kindie,

1:01:53

there so great interviews And just listen

1:01:55

to X listen to I mean

1:01:57

just everything Kylie listened to. I

1:02:00

mean Golden I think is a great record. She

1:02:02

but like, but Guy Brandham said, wow, Gaga

1:02:04

when she released Chromatica gave us a Kylie

1:02:07

Minogga record, Like that is like the

1:02:09

ethos of Kylie just giving you dance

1:02:13

anthems down boots. Okay, let's

1:02:15

keep going. Let's

1:02:23

talk about number sixty nine. You don't have howork

1:02:25

to do for this. No, the discovery of

1:02:27

penicillin antibiotics

1:02:29

huge. We could not be where we are in

1:02:31

the pout them. I don't think that

1:02:34

I could have come back from so many sicknesses

1:02:36

that I have had had it not been for antibiotics.

1:02:39

And I just want to shout out to all the doctors

1:02:42

right now, and we are thinking of you. We're

1:02:44

thinking of you. Let's keep going. Um, this

1:02:46

is number sixty. This is an iconic moment. I'm

1:02:48

so happy you put on thank you when Ash

1:02:51

Armelion evolved

1:02:52

into because this is truly

1:02:54

the loss of innocence. This is the loss of innocen.

1:02:56

This is saying goodbye, This is saying goodbye.

1:02:58

And you know, if you remember from a show, Charmelion

1:03:01

was not very nice to Ash, did not follow his

1:03:03

orders. No, but it's crazy because it's like this

1:03:06

is actually there's a much deeper meeting here because

1:03:08

the char Mander was really sweet, so sweet

1:03:11

charm We never would have seen this coming.

1:03:13

There's lots of it is since But you know what else this is,

1:03:15

This is a model of a

1:03:17

toxic relationship. Yes, and it was

1:03:19

really it was Ash let him mature too

1:03:22

quickly, and it was it was

1:03:24

it was really what it was was overtraining

1:03:27

and it was abuse. It was abuse. It was overtraining

1:03:30

abuse. It happens all the time. And

1:03:32

because when you remember that Charis Art was

1:03:35

even worse than Charmelion in terms of being

1:03:37

so cocky, not listening to Ash,

1:03:40

flying away from battles when ashe needed

1:03:42

him the most. And then you know later

1:03:44

on, I think it was in the Joe to League

1:03:46

that Ash gives up Charis are Ultimately

1:03:49

he realizes they both be better off. But

1:03:51

that very Brilli and Andrew moment, very

1:03:53

brill and Andrew moment from Desperate Housewives.

1:03:55

But this is um that was the moment that they saw each

1:03:57

other as equals. Was when Ash was able to

1:04:00

let chars Are go, and Chars I respected

1:04:02

that from Ash. Honestly, it's a huge moment.

1:04:04

Ultimately, it's this is one of the most

1:04:06

I think it's the most painful relationship

1:04:09

in the Pokemon universe. I think so. And an

1:04:11

amazing arc and an amazing arc. Amazing

1:04:13

arc. Thank you number sixty seven.

1:04:15

When w ah

1:04:20

and A Star Is Born this

1:04:24

I was with you the day the trailer dropped. Yea, And

1:04:27

to say, I think I googled it every

1:04:29

day from when I saw the trailer to when the

1:04:31

movie came out. I was so excited for A Star

1:04:33

is Born and it did not disappoint.

1:04:36

And to know that not only was

1:04:38

that amazing moment in trailer history,

1:04:40

it was an amazing moment in cinema history in

1:04:42

a way that made me forget. Like it made

1:04:45

me because for a while I was like, there's not

1:04:47

gonna be like a melodramatic movie.

1:04:49

It's gonna rock us on a

1:04:51

cultural level like this. Uh

1:04:53

like since you know I was thinking this

1:04:55

thing years ago, I was like, there's not gonna be like a My

1:04:57

Heart Will Go On. Yeah. I

1:05:00

think that what we had there was the closest

1:05:02

thing we were going to get to like my Heart Will Go On

1:05:04

moment, where like a ballad

1:05:07

like that was really from the soul

1:05:09

of a movie and had to only be for that movie,

1:05:11

like really crossed over, although we did have Let

1:05:13

It Go. Actually,

1:05:15

you know what, It's weird because I always think of

1:05:17

like the moment of ballads

1:05:19

from movies being huge hits as very Yester

1:05:22

Year, but The

1:05:24

Star Is Born both had huge Oscar

1:05:27

winning songs that were huge mainstream

1:05:29

hits. I think Shallow was one of Lady Gaga's

1:05:31

biggest records ever. I think it. I think it

1:05:33

has like one trillion

1:05:36

stream Yeah, it's like a really crazy amount

1:05:38

of streams. Um, you're right,

1:05:40

You're right, one trillions. It's

1:05:45

real culture number eighty three

1:05:49

streams on Spotify. But you

1:05:52

know, it's like my heart will go on. I don't want to miss

1:05:54

the thing. It's like all these like huge,

1:05:56

sweeping melo dramatic songs. Yeah,

1:05:58

I thought they were like a thing of the past. Spit then here

1:06:00

here Gaga, Nadina go okay,

1:06:03

Oh my God. Number sixty six Kelly

1:06:06

Clarkson singing Natural Woman on American

1:06:08

Idol. I have to give you the floor on this.

1:06:11

So there were a lot of performances

1:06:14

that were big moments for

1:06:16

Kelly on American Idol, and Bowen had suggested

1:06:18

that we put Kelly Clarkson winning American Idol on

1:06:20

the Culture List. But the thing is, it was a foregone

1:06:23

conclusion that she would win early on in

1:06:25

the season when she sang a natural woman,

1:06:27

because she hit this whistletone note. She

1:06:29

was rocking a tie and a little hat. She

1:06:32

was so addressed like a little businessman. What was

1:06:34

the theme that week? This theme was sixties

1:06:37

and she's saying natural woman and it was so

1:06:40

she was twenty years old. It was well beyond her years.

1:06:42

And I said, this is not only going to

1:06:44

be a star in the Winner of the Show, but this is

1:06:46

going to be someone in my

1:06:49

life. And she has remained so And

1:06:51

I'm looking right now at her vinyl,

1:06:53

her meaning of like designed vinyl

1:06:56

and she just want an Emmy, a daytime Emmy

1:06:58

for talk host. Halfway got

1:07:02

Halfway? Do you got? And Kelly, I've

1:07:04

known it from the beginning. I love you. You're

1:07:06

a moment of culture. Do you have anything to add, how

1:07:09

emotionally ambassy you pay tribute

1:07:11

like this lover her. She's

1:07:14

a moment of Kelly so much. And you

1:07:16

know Kelly was you know Kelly earlier on and

1:07:19

the last episode was kind of

1:07:21

involved in the moment of culture of Matt and I being on the view

1:07:23

that she she was the reason we were there.

1:07:25

She was the reason we were there. She wasn't the culture

1:07:27

that day. It was us. The culture

1:07:30

was us. And um that

1:07:32

gentleman who went to

1:07:34

go to the concert, but we don't speak of him. Uh,

1:07:37

let's move on. Kelly's number sixty six, but number

1:07:39

sixty five is Sailor Moon.

1:07:42

This iconic young woman

1:07:44

took the morning time by storm in my

1:07:47

house, in your house. Sailor

1:07:49

Moon, um Usagi,

1:07:52

Serena, whatever you wanna call her, but

1:07:54

just did the world around her gave us the

1:07:57

magical girl archetype in anime in

1:07:59

manga. Um uh,

1:08:02

what a what a heroic girl fighting

1:08:05

evil by moonlight, winning love by daylight, never

1:08:07

running from a real fight. This is the one named

1:08:09

Sailor Moon and the transformation

1:08:12

sequences Sailor, Venus, Sailor, Mercury Sailor,

1:08:14

Mars Sailer, Jupiter Dream. I could go on

1:08:16

and the Sailor stars the series. You had the

1:08:20

Search for your Love, you had Sailor, Neptune

1:08:22

Sailor. You're in a Sailor Pluto iconic.

1:08:24

Queer characters, queer cultured trans

1:08:27

characters a huge thing,

1:08:29

a huge part of the culture. I just remember watching

1:08:32

Sailor Moon in the morning, and it was so early when I had

1:08:34

to go to school that it was still dark out, so

1:08:36

it was like watching a like a primetime show,

1:08:38

but before school. I remember it was so early in

1:08:40

the morning that it was on. It was it had to be on, like

1:08:42

like it was always dark outside

1:08:45

or maybe it was raining. I don't know. I was young. Um,

1:08:47

okay, so we're moving on to number sixty four.

1:08:49

This is Parker Posey and

1:08:52

Josie and the pussy Cats iconic.

1:08:55

When she walks down the stairs to her own party.

1:08:58

Why do you do? What could

1:09:00

do to me? Baby? Shaking

1:09:03

my convdence, driving me

1:09:05

crazy? You know if I could,

1:09:07

I'd do anything for you

1:09:11

so good And she is just sort of letting

1:09:13

her body sway. It's incredible,

1:09:15

I mean. And that movie really is like comedically

1:09:19

like so huge. You had Parker Posey, you

1:09:21

had a Eugene Levee, Cameo, Alan,

1:09:24

Alan Cumming, Missy Piles, Rosario

1:09:28

Richel could of course, yes, became Donald

1:09:30

Faison and what's his name? Freck

1:09:33

and meyerck and Meyer. We love one of my crushes

1:09:35

Green. It was like of

1:09:37

the time, like so perfect. But then you had like

1:09:39

the Christopher guest flavor and there with Parker and with Eugene,

1:09:42

and I just remember that movie influence.

1:09:44

We've talked about this before, but that movie has influenced me so

1:09:47

much. Oh it's also well ahead of

1:09:49

its time in terms of what it was saying and what it was

1:09:51

exploring. Now. Number sixty three

1:09:53

is Yohaugenberg inventing

1:09:56

movable type? Well, we certainly

1:09:58

wouldn't be here. It certainly wouldn't be easy to live life

1:10:00

with that what he had done. Imagine having

1:10:02

to read a handwritten book. Thank

1:10:06

you not my favorite Gutenberg. That would be

1:10:08

Steve Gutenberg. Would love Steve Gutenberg

1:10:10

didn't make the list. You know who did make the

1:10:12

list is number sixty two. Robin.

1:10:15

We love Robin. Robin has

1:10:18

created some of the most amazing music

1:10:20

of our time. And I would actually say the

1:10:22

song that defines our generation the most is Dancing

1:10:24

on My Dancing on My Own. Absolutely, there's pathos,

1:10:27

there's a beat, their suffering, there's

1:10:29

joy. And you know, one of

1:10:31

my fondest memories is of going to the Robin

1:10:34

Honey concert at Barclay Center, Yes,

1:10:36

with my sister Matt Rodgers and

1:10:38

Josh and and Josh and Mo and Dave,

1:10:41

and we brought poppers and

1:10:44

when the poppers hit at a Robber at a Robin concert,

1:10:46

they hit and I saw it so hard. I saw him

1:10:49

that vogueing, the fastest vogue

1:10:51

I've ever seen in my life. I was really filling

1:10:53

myself with that Robin concert. And how could you not,

1:10:55

I mean, that was that was one

1:10:57

of the best summers ever, honestly, and also

1:11:00

it was just such last summer. Oh

1:11:02

my god, it's so that was a great summer.

1:11:06

No, I'm so sad. I will have great summers.

1:11:09

We'll have great summers anyway. Robin provided

1:11:11

us with that moment and so much more. And I remember her

1:11:13

in singing

1:11:16

show Me Love, and that is longevity right

1:11:18

there. Yes, come on Swedish pop

1:11:21

Icon to be celebrated. Number sixty

1:11:23

one, Hey clown Jester, you

1:11:25

have done it again constantly for

1:11:28

the circus. This is the

1:11:30

Michelle Obama meme replaced with words

1:11:32

clown and jester and circus. Look

1:11:34

it up. Look it up and of course foolishly and

1:11:36

doing it and doing it foolishly. It's

1:11:39

perfect. It's just a good meme. It's great, and

1:11:42

it's a culture momentum.

1:11:44

Number sixty is Feud, Bay

1:11:46

and Joan. Where is the next series

1:11:49

of Feud? So I looked into this. They were

1:11:51

they were going to do Diana and Charles um

1:11:53

and then they were going to call it something else and it lost

1:11:56

the Feud name like

1:11:58

the pre colon really and

1:12:01

then Ryan Murphy sciences Netflix deal,

1:12:04

so then I think Feud is contractually

1:12:07

bound to FX. So now that he's

1:12:09

on Netflix, he's like, I don't know when I'll be able to do

1:12:11

Feud again, but I would love to do foot again when

1:12:13

I can. So we it's it's

1:12:15

indefinitely just done. But

1:12:17

feud, what we had a feud? Isn't

1:12:19

that sad? That is a bummer because I actually

1:12:22

thought that feud was one of the better Ryan Murphy too,

1:12:25

Yeah, and you know whatever, But I

1:12:27

thought Bettie and Joan was great, even though the writing is like,

1:12:29

I love Betty and Johan and I need a little bit of over

1:12:32

the top writing like that sometimes. I

1:12:34

mean, the last episode

1:12:36

of spoiler Alert, Um,

1:12:38

Jessica Lang is Joan Crawford hallucinating

1:12:41

all of you know, the the old Hollywood

1:12:44

people who tormented her. Um

1:12:46

so good. She's truly good in it, and honestly,

1:12:49

had it not been for big little lies in nicole

1:12:52

Um, that was a crazy year. It was a crazy yer

1:12:54

and we're actually gonna talk about it in a second. Fifty

1:12:57

nine is S Club seven.

1:13:00

I mean, these two these young girls hot

1:13:02

sort of like, you know, trying

1:13:05

to be the new group of the moment and succeeding there for a little

1:13:07

bit because it was Simon. It was some. It

1:13:10

was not Simons, Miss Fuller, Simon

1:13:12

Fuller signing them and this is hot

1:13:14

off the success of the Spice Girls. You

1:13:16

know, S Clip seven as club party. Um

1:13:20

never had a dream come true. All

1:13:23

that just really songs for the moment,

1:13:25

for the moment, and we can all remember that moment, sort of like

1:13:27

wishing we had like a boyfriend or a girlfriend

1:13:30

at the time, and sort of like you know, so

1:13:32

soda pop fantasies. Yes, yeah,

1:13:35

that's how I think of them. Number

1:13:38

I can Barely see is a little

1:13:40

bit of a different fantasy of a soft drink

1:13:42

or something you could drink. The invention

1:13:44

of ice coffee. I can't

1:13:46

live without it. Me neither love the stuff moving

1:13:49

forward? Fifty seven is I

1:13:52

mean, for me, this is

1:13:54

Desperate Housewives, but make

1:13:57

it even richer and prestige

1:14:00

and with an oscar Worthy director

1:14:02

and real A list talent behind the camera.

1:14:05

I identify as Reese and big little

1:14:07

lies I have. I guess I'm

1:14:09

a Shelene. We've never really figured out what I am. I

1:14:14

feel you're celest, but with power,

1:14:17

you're so lest when she's in the courtroom.

1:14:20

What do we think of Season two? I

1:14:22

don't hate season two as much as everyone else

1:14:24

does, but but I would

1:14:27

say that I would

1:14:29

rather have big little lies than not

1:14:31

having, Like I'm if

1:14:34

at the end of the season I'm mad because

1:14:36

there was too much pulpe on my

1:14:38

drama about like rich A

1:14:40

list actresses. It's like, that's fine.

1:14:43

I'd rather like, yeah, you know, how many

1:14:45

seasons of Big Bang thirty like have been on. We

1:14:48

can get a few seasons a bit little lies. I don't

1:14:50

really ever understand when people are like, we

1:14:53

don't need a third season. It's like, yeah, I

1:14:55

don't need, like I

1:14:57

don't need another a million dollars, but

1:15:00

want it like thank you, And

1:15:02

it's the same, am bib little Ice. Season three would be the equivalent

1:15:04

of a million dollars. You know what they didn't

1:15:06

do enough in season two, which they also didn't

1:15:08

do enough in season one, was not enough Marion Marion

1:15:11

Dungey. Well, I thought that she would

1:15:13

be a bigger part exactly what's what I'm saying. But she

1:15:15

wasn't. Yeah, she wasn't. And she also

1:15:17

was iconically in Private Practice to spin

1:15:19

off when it was a backdoor pilot, and then they

1:15:21

recast her with miss Audre McDonald, who unfortunately

1:15:24

did not make the list. Um

1:15:26

let's keep going. But who did make the list? Number

1:15:28

fifties six Deb Wilson on Mad

1:15:31

TV, one of the best sketch performers

1:15:33

of all time. In my opinion, you put her up there with

1:15:35

Gilda. Oh. I mean, she pops

1:15:37

on the screen like no other and the choices are

1:15:40

out of control, but they are welcome.

1:15:43

Let's just I'm truly rattling

1:15:46

these off yet, Whitney Houston beneath

1:15:49

a Latifa harri Fa Sharifa Jackson, you

1:15:51

had prehistoric prehistoric,

1:15:53

I mean you had yes, prest Clamazon Huntress

1:15:55

is a d she was She was like

1:15:57

the she was Mariah. She was this

1:16:00

default commercial parody voice. She was the cssily

1:16:02

strong of that TV um

1:16:05

she she did so much, she did so

1:16:07

much incredible. Oh she did Diana

1:16:09

Ross in a crazy Halloween

1:16:11

theme sketch. If people remember where she bit

1:16:13

Michael McDonald's nipple off. I

1:16:17

love mat TV so much as people know Deborah

1:16:19

Wilson like popped in

1:16:21

a way. I love

1:16:23

her and I agree. I mean, this is a

1:16:26

seminal artist artists. And speaking

1:16:28

of artists, number five,

1:16:31

Brandy Cinderella, this

1:16:34

is the definitive telling of Rogers and Hammerstein.

1:16:36

Thank you. And you had an Asian male

1:16:39

lead in the nineties, Are you kidding me? She

1:16:41

had biracial parents and it was just it

1:16:43

was it was a Victor Garber and Whoopi Goldberg

1:16:46

and like it was just

1:16:48

a completely colored blind cast. Not that that even

1:16:50

had anything to do with it. I remember being little and not even

1:16:52

thinking about it was just like amazing

1:16:55

to watch. And Whitney was the godmother of

1:16:57

course, the Whitney Houston impossible

1:17:01

things all happening. I

1:17:05

mean, come on, and Brandy

1:17:07

iconic sitting all on in her little corner, on her own little

1:17:09

chair, sin in her chair, and

1:17:13

did you ever see like the interview footage or

1:17:15

like the footage of them staying together at the

1:17:17

in the studios. It's just beautiful

1:17:20

and well that was Brandi's

1:17:22

idol, that was Brandie's idol, and like, but you

1:17:24

could see that Whitney was pushing her because

1:17:26

she knew she was capable. And look,

1:17:29

you had a gay dad, Victor Garber, huge

1:17:32

and married to Berna,

1:17:37

I mean, iconic, burna dead getting a big

1:17:39

part like that. We like ever,

1:17:41

my mom said to me, that's Brenda Deett Peters and I was like,

1:17:43

I don't know that, but I do know that. I

1:17:45

want to know more, you know what I mean. I was like, I'm actually

1:17:47

interested in hearing more about this Bernadette

1:17:49

Peters because there's something going on. That was

1:17:52

my first exposure to Berna Dead, I think I would imagine.

1:17:54

So yeah, so I'm moving forward. We

1:17:56

have a number fifty four. This is iconic Jurassic

1:17:59

Park. Think about all

1:18:01

the culture that Jurassic Park has given us. I mean,

1:18:03

not only do we have Laura during staring up and wonder

1:18:05

at what we then realized later was a c

1:18:07

G I dinosaur. There wasn't even anything for her

1:18:09

to look at, talk about acting talking about it. Then you've

1:18:11

got I mean, Beaty

1:18:14

Wong serving up iconic fish villain.

1:18:16

You got that t Rex, another villain

1:18:18

in the film, very big, very mean, the

1:18:20

raptors extremely nasty,

1:18:24

and we had the most handsome

1:18:26

creation of all as dr

1:18:28

Ian dr Ian Malcolm,

1:18:31

Thank you Mr

1:18:34

Jeff, Mr Jeff Goldbloom.

1:18:36

And we have sex icon's icon.

1:18:38

You had the iconic little cartoons

1:18:40

train of DNA narrating how

1:18:43

the park came to be, talking about the amber,

1:18:45

talking about the MS Dinosaur theme Park. They

1:18:48

sat down and they wrote Dinosaur Theme Park, of Course, which

1:18:50

is a novel. First, thank you Michael crist Then

1:18:52

we had Steven Spielberg making into the amazing

1:18:54

moment. And then we have the theme parks everywhere

1:18:56

nationwide, I mean internationally,

1:18:59

Girl Dress Park. Now we have Jurassic World.

1:19:02

The movies are um

1:19:04

trying something new, but they

1:19:06

do give us Bryce Dallas Howard out running

1:19:08

a t Rex in her heels. That

1:19:11

and then in the second movie a ponytail. Chaotic

1:19:14

good, chaotic. This is the definition of chaotic

1:19:16

good. Absolutely, it's actually real culture.

1:19:18

Number seventy Bryce Dallas Howard

1:19:22

is the definition of chaotic

1:19:25

good. Thank you, Let's move on. Number

1:19:27

fifty three is Dr Meridian.

1:19:29

We just watched this film. I haven't seen

1:19:32

any I haven't seen a

1:19:34

lot of streamocrafy, I have not seen a Streat Macro film

1:19:36

since he passed away. Oh, you need to watch Batman

1:19:38

Forever and Batman and Robin in a double feature. Because

1:19:40

Nicole Kidman as Dr Chase Meridian is

1:19:42

not what you remember. She is driven

1:19:45

only by her sexual impulses. In the film,

1:19:47

she has iconic Veronica l hair. She rings

1:19:50

the bat symbol, which means that something is happening

1:19:52

just so she can get make it on a roof, so that

1:19:54

she can like you know, sort of

1:19:57

position him.

1:19:59

She is lashing her movies around like

1:20:02

she is driven wild by her own wiles.

1:20:05

And this was she's a psychotherapist. This is

1:20:07

Val Kilmer Batman, Batan,

1:20:09

I'm sorry to say, I mean not even close.

1:20:12

Who do you think it's the hottest? How does Batman? I

1:20:14

mean, if if to be to be totally honest

1:20:16

with you, the hottest Batman, flat out period

1:20:19

is Christian. You

1:20:21

have a body like that, George Clooney, You didn't

1:20:23

see the body. Well he wasn't even trying, George

1:20:25

Clooney. Now he was like mad to be there. Yeah, yeah,

1:20:28

of course he wasn't even happy about being there. God,

1:20:30

Batman and Robin is truly truly

1:20:33

crazy. It's one of the most insane

1:20:35

movies ever. But we're gonna talk about it a bit,

1:20:38

Okay. So number five two is The Sims?

1:20:41

What would be without the Sims? One of the best selling

1:20:43

games of all time. Um, you know you

1:20:47

could live out all your fantasies on the Sims. You could.

1:20:50

I did feel rich playing the Sims after

1:20:52

Rosebud, of course, after the rosebed

1:20:54

Cheat. But you know, to live out your

1:20:57

fantasies by building as big of a house as

1:20:59

you wanted. Um,

1:21:01

I felt rich. I've never felt did you ever do the

1:21:03

code to get unlimited money? Yeah? Rosebud,

1:21:06

Rosebud always, always, always,

1:21:08

And you know it was fun too. In

1:21:10

sequels, you know, there's

1:21:12

aspirations that you can work with, and it was

1:21:14

fun to sort of, you know, make my character

1:21:17

the mayor of sim City. That's incredible,

1:21:19

thank you. See I was like a really coach tycoon

1:21:21

person. But I feel that the Sims arened

1:21:23

its place here because I even played the Sims as

1:21:25

well. And to sort of watch my characters quote

1:21:27

unquote interact was very

1:21:30

formidable for me. For not formidable,

1:21:32

it was formative and formidable. And

1:21:34

I don't know my words, but I do in my heart. Let's keep going,

1:21:37

um, let's keep going. Number one

1:21:40

speech. The world is ship. The world

1:21:42

is bullshit. The world is bullshit. This is

1:21:44

bullshit, she said, and she was right. She was

1:21:46

right, and she said, go with yourself,

1:21:49

Go with yourself, Go with yourself. Isn't

1:21:51

that beautiful? Honestly

1:21:53

she only looks crazy at the time, but now looking

1:21:56

back, ahead of her time, ahead of her time,

1:21:59

go with yourself. Don't go with what this industry

1:22:01

wants you to do. Go with yourself and

1:22:03

what like also like what eighteen at the time, young

1:22:06

Michelle branch Age, Billie eilish Age, Kate

1:22:08

bush Age, smart ass, smart as

1:22:10

girl. And moving forward we have another

1:22:13

incredible ass number fifty Lucy

1:22:16

Lou Flip your goddamn

1:22:18

hair and Charlie's Angels too, of

1:22:20

course Cameron who then flipped her hair to Luke

1:22:23

to great success. Luke

1:22:25

Wilson, who was hot and hot, but also

1:22:28

Matt LeBlanc was also hot in that movie, and so was

1:22:30

Sam rockwell so with Samuel

1:22:32

Rockwall, Tom Green with Drew Berrymore's

1:22:34

loving not hot in the movie, but you

1:22:36

know, he served, he served a purpose. He was goofy,

1:22:39

definitely goofy. I love Charlie's

1:22:41

Angels me too, Oh my god, like

1:22:44

a really well directed movie. And the writing is so fun

1:22:46

and it's really that's I mean, it did what the

1:22:48

new one didn't do, which is it went for the fun and the

1:22:50

jokes and the sort of campiness,

1:22:52

which is this idea that there would be a Charlie's

1:22:55

Angels. You have to blow that up. You have to

1:22:57

blow that up. And the music and the soundtrack and Charlie's

1:22:59

Angeles is all like seminies classics, mostly

1:23:02

like it's like it's like a tribute

1:23:04

to the original Charlie's Angels. It's

1:23:06

so good. It's so good. I also think

1:23:08

it understood something that the New Charlie's

1:23:11

Angels didn't, which is like the Charlie's the New Charlie's

1:23:13

Angels like what I like about the old Charlie's

1:23:15

Angels. And maybe there's something weird about me saying this, but

1:23:18

I like that they were like overtly sexual,

1:23:20

that they were like really in control of their

1:23:22

sexuality, and this new one sort of had like

1:23:24

almost like a chip on its shoulder about like feminism.

1:23:28

Yeah, like it was just like, no, they're not sexual,

1:23:30

they're just they're just soldiers. And it's like okay,

1:23:33

and I mean yes, but also that doesn't

1:23:36

like, let's not shame the movie that came

1:23:38

first and the like female

1:23:40

production team that put it together, and like, you

1:23:42

know, but it's it's the third wave. I feel

1:23:44

like Charlie's Angels, the McGee to

1:23:47

the two McGee movies was very third

1:23:49

wave feminist in the way that it was like they were empowered because

1:23:52

of their sexuality in spite of it anyway,

1:23:56

were it was amazing and Lucy Little we stand

1:23:59

and now we're in the top fifty, number forty

1:24:01

nine and Vogue and Salt and Pepper

1:24:03

collabing on what a man. I mean, come

1:24:06

on, come on, I mean this is a huge moment

1:24:08

um like maybe

1:24:12

best singing girl group of all time and Vogue

1:24:14

I think so. And then but just the moment,

1:24:17

it's a perfect marriage. Um, no

1:24:19

one is compromised on the song and you know,

1:24:21

you get you know, he's so crazy.

1:24:23

I think I want to have your baby. I

1:24:26

mean, like perfect, like seamless into

1:24:28

it's drenched, so good, drenched

1:24:31

in goodness. Come on, here we go. Number

1:24:34

Billy Porter's curtain hat. You

1:24:36

can't say much about this and then iconic other

1:24:38

than iconic, and watch the video of

1:24:41

it opening. It's very funny. It is very

1:24:43

indicative of Billy Porter's fashion sense,

1:24:45

which is a whole moment, and it's represented here

1:24:47

on the littlest of the top two. Let's

1:24:50

keep going. Number is God Warrior.

1:24:53

You came to my mind. I saw her. I went

1:24:56

to go see her at our station. You came to

1:24:58

my mind. You came to my mind. A

1:25:00

slee the God Warrior speech from wife Swap.

1:25:03

It's beautiful. We

1:25:05

saw Bob the drag queen to a lip thing to it. That

1:25:07

was the next level. It broke it all

1:25:09

open from me. And I went home that night and I watched I

1:25:11

saw Bob do it at a Barracuda,

1:25:13

went home, watched it and I was like, I maybe even

1:25:16

texted you. I was like, this is an incredible thing.

1:25:18

Oh, it's an incredible moment in television history. And

1:25:20

now did you know that she's like repentance,

1:25:23

yes, and she's like very woke. Yeah,

1:25:25

she like she celebrates lgbt Q

1:25:27

and like and like she's like I think

1:25:29

she's down with like like the uprising

1:25:32

too, and like black Lives Matter. I think I

1:25:34

love that. I think she's like fully like repentant

1:25:37

and she's like go on the opposite, Well, I mean to see

1:25:39

yourself be that, to see what

1:25:41

you think is a normal thing be blown

1:25:44

up and like become such a crazy

1:25:46

moment in history. Maybe she had some

1:25:49

good uh re educated, but

1:25:51

it doesn't always happen. But like I

1:25:53

just think the I'm gonna I'm gonna blow out the mic.

1:25:57

She's not a Christian. Amazing,

1:26:02

she's not a Christian. Oh

1:26:06

my god, it's tainted all

1:26:08

right. Number forty six is Fergie singing

1:26:10

the national anthem. Of course, she capped it off

1:26:12

with let's play some basketball. She makes

1:26:15

it on lest twice a

1:26:17

huge feed. I think she

1:26:21

was. She she did the jazzy rendition of the national jazzy

1:26:23

rendition and we love

1:26:26

I. I don't think it's actually that embarrassing for her.

1:26:28

I think she like, she need not be embarrassed.

1:26:31

She took us by the shoulders and she was like, you're gonna listen to me saying

1:26:33

the national now, and she and I'm gonna do it my way and

1:26:35

it's gonna be a moment. And you know what we're talking about it right now.

1:26:37

You know we're not talking about right now the All

1:26:39

Star Game. We're not talking about anyone

1:26:41

else's version of that now we have them except

1:26:44

Fergie. Yes, okay, you're right, numbers

1:26:48

pretending to America's

1:26:50

next. So of

1:26:52

course this is the You really are the tyra historian

1:26:55

of the two of us, and not really, I didn't. I didn't

1:26:57

even watch that top model that much. But

1:27:00

of course we know the moments, and the moments are

1:27:02

you know, um Eva

1:27:05

and all all the famous winners,

1:27:08

all the famous winters, all of them but you

1:27:11

remember this moment, right She's she's sitting down

1:27:13

with the girls on a chair. She's like, I'm really

1:27:16

I don't feel good anyway. Um okay,

1:27:19

I just wanted to talk to you guys about this challenge.

1:27:22

But I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys, I'm just so tired,

1:27:24

okay. And then she gets up and then all of a sudden,

1:27:27

trips over herself and eats

1:27:30

ship on the carpet of this room

1:27:33

as the girls freak

1:27:35

out, and you just you have to listen to these screams

1:27:37

because of the girls were like it's

1:27:43

incredible, and ty were just like flips

1:27:46

her bodies and she lands on her shoulders

1:27:48

and like you're not sure if she's seizing or if she's fainting.

1:27:51

And then someone get her water, get

1:27:53

her water, and then she gets up and then of course

1:27:56

famous she goes, you gonna

1:27:58

learn about my God,

1:28:01

it's so relentless acting.

1:28:05

Well, let's just go right into our next time, which

1:28:07

was number forty four Banks pretending

1:28:10

to have rabies on Tyra. So

1:28:12

this is when she took her acting to the next level and

1:28:14

pretended that she was bitten by a dog who gave her

1:28:16

rabies. Foamed at the mouth live on stage

1:28:18

during an interview and collapsed and roared at

1:28:21

her guests like she was a dog, barked to the camera.

1:28:24

And so entire's mind, having rabies

1:28:26

is turning into a dog. That's what she was

1:28:28

telegraphing. Yes, And the fact that she took

1:28:31

a sip from her from her like water bottle

1:28:33

and filled herself with like foam and

1:28:35

then pretended to foam at the

1:28:37

mouth and turn into a dog and growl at guests.

1:28:40

I don't understand. She deserved the Emmy. She won the

1:28:42

damn day. And

1:28:46

I'm gonna have to agree with that one. And gonna

1:28:48

have to say number forty three is rate the

1:28:50

Franklin's Gowns interview, the

1:28:53

iconic sit down that Aretha

1:28:55

did when she released her Diva Covers

1:28:57

album and she was asked about Ello

1:29:00

Swift and she said, okay, gowns,

1:29:02

beautiful gownswn and

1:29:06

just watch it. Just watch. I mean, you know, if

1:29:08

most of you know by now on

1:29:10

that one that's from that interview, that's

1:29:12

a book of lies and trash. Just what

1:29:14

that is, that is nothing but lies and

1:29:17

trash. That is a book of lies

1:29:19

and trash and of course, Sissy's

1:29:22

baby, Sissy's baby. I mean Aretha

1:29:25

Franklin, the grand dam of music, as

1:29:27

far as I'm concerned, holding her,

1:29:29

holding her place and just

1:29:32

not having any of it from this interviewer.

1:29:34

Aretha was a talent and

1:29:37

moving forward before we have lose

1:29:41

voice. This is that deep

1:29:44

voice, deeper than that, this is

1:29:46

the deep like it's

1:29:48

just a gorgeous I can't even do it. She has

1:29:50

an iconic grasp. Has

1:29:53

she really done a lot after House and Sand

1:29:55

and fog? No, she was on

1:29:57

Gray's Anatomy, she was on Think,

1:30:00

She's been on some shows in sort of the streaming

1:30:02

era era that we're not that we're just not thinking

1:30:04

of that. We love Shara. I love Shara.

1:30:07

I'm trying to think like I think she was in

1:30:09

one iconic thing, but it's like not jumping out to

1:30:12

now I know, how's it saying in vog is pretty iconic.

1:30:14

She had the Oscar nom, she had the Oscar No. But

1:30:17

it's a shame to me that she hasn't worked more because she's iconic

1:30:19

and like beautiful someone

1:30:22

who you've seen pictures of her from when she was young. Yes, gorgeous,

1:30:24

but I'm saying like she's aged into her

1:30:26

beauty. Yeah, she was

1:30:28

like a screen goddess. Um. Okay, So

1:30:31

speaking of goddesses number forty one,

1:30:33

Greek mythology, I mean, so

1:30:36

many young girls are in these stories,

1:30:38

Yes, a lot of young girls. We learn about Zeus,

1:30:41

we learned about rapist. Zeus

1:30:44

is a rapist. Really, so many Zeus babies

1:30:46

are products of rape. I'm

1:30:48

sorry to have to read this again. Yes,

1:30:50

I'm sorry to bring the mood down, but it's true. But like I

1:30:53

just want to say, I have nothing to do with my ancestors.

1:30:55

I apologize for them and I denounced them.

1:30:57

Thank you, thank you for taking accountability. But I

1:30:59

feel like Greek mythology, if you,

1:31:01

if you're really dug into Greek mythology, you learned about

1:31:03

the human condition and you look about the darkness and

1:31:05

the light and humanity. And that's what we try to do, an

1:31:07

entertainment exposed the darkness and the light.

1:31:10

So thank you, greet thank you. Now we have

1:31:12

number forty The opening piano A

1:31:14

Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton. You

1:31:17

know it, you'll love it. It's

1:31:25

a comedic beat and white checks. It's

1:31:27

if you ever hear it, it is

1:31:30

it I think is. I honestly think if that

1:31:32

came on and we were on Molly, we would flip a ship.

1:31:35

It's transportive, Yes, it

1:31:37

is. It takes you back to another I remember the first time

1:31:39

I heard it. I was in the car on the way to Catechism

1:31:42

to study, to study the Catholic religion

1:31:45

on a Tuesday night. And I was in the

1:31:47

car and I was like, we I can't get out of

1:31:49

the car. I have to know what's happening

1:31:51

with the song. When the strength come in, You're like, I

1:31:54

it has its damn close in me and

1:31:57

I con niconic song, I

1:32:00

hanic song. And yes, I was

1:32:02

in the car. It was on Radio Disney and I was like, this is

1:32:04

a huge, huge Vanessa Vansa

1:32:07

And then that really was you forget

1:32:10

like because that song was so huge. It feels one

1:32:12

hit wonderous. But she also brought to you with white

1:32:14

Houses and she brought a tea with ordinary

1:32:16

day. Yes, we

1:32:18

love Vanessa. I love Vanessa.

1:32:21

I believe she was on Broadway. I

1:32:23

think she wasn't beautiful, beautiful, she wasn't

1:32:26

beautiful, and you know what she she

1:32:28

edged out a lot of competition. She edged out

1:32:30

Robin. She edged out, I

1:32:32

mean Aretha, Yeah, I mean, but she

1:32:35

didn't get to the heights of number thirty nine.

1:32:38

Little mix, hey singing black

1:32:40

Magic. So this is a part of culture that you didn't

1:32:42

know about until I told you yesterday because

1:32:44

we were listening to a little Mix and you were playing the bop

1:32:47

of Bob's thinking about you. What it was,

1:32:49

it was, have you do you think about

1:32:52

us? Think about us? I'm sorry I mistitled

1:32:54

think about us? And I was like, put on black Magic

1:32:57

and you said, well, no, they hate singing black Man,

1:32:59

even though I like black Magic, said when

1:33:01

I was like, they don't like black Magic?

1:33:04

And then he was like what And I was like, have you ever seen the

1:33:06

YouTube video of them being so over singing

1:33:08

black Magic? And then we came back and we watched

1:33:11

it and it's shoe Jesse and Nelson in particular hates

1:33:13

black Magic. And there's a it's

1:33:15

like this clip of the many times they've sung it. They

1:33:17

clearly hate doing it. They're

1:33:19

doing it acoustic, they hate it. And then

1:33:21

there's a clip at the end which is them all in quarantine

1:33:24

drinking wine together doing like an instant live or something.

1:33:26

You're doing a great addressing and go

1:33:28

ahead, Oh no, here

1:33:31

we go. This next question is what's the song you

1:33:33

hate doing the most? Black Magic? Black

1:33:38

Magic? And they're

1:33:40

like, oh, yeah, you don't really, you really don't like black magic

1:33:42

and just I've never really locked it to be on it, Jesse.

1:33:47

I love iconic and black

1:33:49

Magic, And although I do

1:33:52

think that if we had to sing it every night, we'd have to, we'd

1:33:54

be really sick of yeah, for sure. But okay,

1:33:56

their harmonies only sing that's not acoustic

1:33:58

are unreal. And the music

1:34:00

video, I think it's amaster the Crown. That

1:34:04

number thirty eight Desperate

1:34:07

Halfwives. Now I was

1:34:10

a little bit questioning this one. You could have reordered

1:34:12

it. You could put marsh Across above Alfrey.

1:34:14

But I think it's right that al Free is up here because

1:34:18

White Betty Apple White, and

1:34:20

she iconically had two sons,

1:34:23

one of which was a killer and the other

1:34:25

which was locked in

1:34:27

the basement she thought was the killer, but was actually

1:34:29

the other son who it was her son Matthew, who was the

1:34:31

hot one, very hot actor, crazy

1:34:34

hot. He was also on True Blood and you see

1:34:36

him have sex many times. That's

1:34:38

perfect. He has sex with Routina Wesley's

1:34:41

character Tera Routina, Oh my

1:34:43

God, to gorgeous Routina on the

1:34:45

list. Routina is one

1:34:47

of the best actors we've had in tele I'm gonna

1:34:49

say right now, Routina, we apologize

1:34:52

you were an honorable mention. You and Nicoletus

1:34:54

are honorable mention Routina, Routina,

1:34:57

and also Anna Paquin's gap and

1:35:00

Quand's gap and she made it work.

1:35:02

And the iconic gay sex scene on

1:35:05

True Blood between Alexander Skarsgard and Ryan

1:35:07

Quanton. Thank you, thank you. Oh no, no, no

1:35:09

no. But I just want to say before we move on, Alfree Woder on Disperate

1:35:11

Housewives, just great

1:35:14

work. I mean nominated, I mean nominated. The acting

1:35:17

is so restrained and like you

1:35:19

can tell, there's a darkness behind whoever

1:35:21

this character is. And she just pursed

1:35:24

lips a free worder can act her

1:35:27

ass off her personal lips.

1:35:29

And also, please, if you want more Alfrey, go

1:35:31

see Heart and Souls. Y um okay.

1:35:34

Number thirty seven Murder on a Stupid

1:35:36

Bitch Express. This is come

1:35:39

on, Matt, what is it? It's the iconic, iconic

1:35:42

two part episode of our very

1:35:45

favorite podcast hosted by

1:35:47

Mazie Rodman and Theta Hamill and

1:35:51

I have never laughed so hard so soon

1:35:54

until the beginning of a podcast episode. It

1:35:57

starts off with an improvised transactions

1:36:00

and somehow it works. It works. Oh, you've

1:36:02

never seen it. Okay for people who don't

1:36:04

know improv at this point, who can't be

1:36:07

doing transactions. You can't be doing transaction scenes,

1:36:09

but Macy and they to make it work so well.

1:36:11

I mean, Joel Kim Booster has said, um

1:36:14

that you are the Macy of this podcast. You're

1:36:17

you're, you're, you're, you are sort of the the

1:36:19

joy, the chaotic good that's just running

1:36:22

him up. Yes, and I am sort of the straight man

1:36:24

who has to straightment against everything. And I've

1:36:26

never been more flattered that first. I'm

1:36:28

also flattered. I think NIPA

1:36:31

Wars is a superior podcast in every way.

1:36:33

I would say it's better than ours. Please listen too

1:36:35

to qualify. I'm sorry, and no I would

1:36:38

I wouldn't disagree. And also I would say, Joel

1:36:40

Kim Booster, thank you so much, but you didn't make

1:36:42

the lists. You didn't not this time.

1:36:45

Number thirty six. Evia Lungoria

1:36:47

saying, hi, heleronic acid.

1:36:50

I've never been struck by a

1:36:53

cosmetics, a skincare commercial. In

1:36:56

my life. Her energy has inspired me from

1:36:58

the beginning gil at least down

1:37:01

to high leronic acid.

1:37:03

Yeah, I mean I've been inspired every step by the way. She's

1:37:05

the queen of one liners. And this is, in its

1:37:07

own way a one liner. A queen of Corpus Christie

1:37:10

Texas, Thank you, Queen of Corpus Christie.

1:37:12

Even number thirty five documentaries

1:37:14

about important subjects such

1:37:16

as global warming, such as whales, such

1:37:19

as um, the way that um

1:37:22

you can go from being a waitress in the Wrongs

1:37:24

to becoming congresswoman,

1:37:27

the youngest congresswoman. Yes, And

1:37:29

you know, there are so many documentaries

1:37:32

out there, and we we would suggest

1:37:34

that if you are someone who you know, it's

1:37:36

not easy for you to read a book, but you want to learn,

1:37:38

you can watch the documentary. I would say in

1:37:41

a lot of ways, Matt Rogers

1:37:43

famously more of a documentary watcher. I'm famously

1:37:46

kind of I read a little bit more books than Matt.

1:37:48

But I could say Matt is maybe in general more

1:37:51

informed than I am on certain subjects, and it's because

1:37:53

he watches The Doctor. Lately, I've been watching a lot of documentaries

1:37:55

and absorbing a lot of new information,

1:37:58

which is new for me. I usually just kind of live in my own

1:38:00

world, but now that I'm in quarantine, I've actually

1:38:02

been branching out in terms of my interests and educating.

1:38:06

I love I want you to school my ass on Jeffrey

1:38:08

Epstein whenever I could. Um,

1:38:10

okay, so number thirty four

1:38:13

Rachel from thousand six.

1:38:17

We had mean girls, we had wedding crashes, we had the

1:38:19

notebook. We had read by eye that

1:38:22

this is like right around family Stone,

1:38:25

and it ended yes, And I made sure to look up when Family

1:38:27

Stone came out. Family Stone was two thousand five. I want

1:38:29

to see what a

1:38:31

run of movies like, like I

1:38:34

could do everything a moment though, for an

1:38:36

actor who deserved, who like fully rose to

1:38:38

the occasion on every single on every single

1:38:40

level, every single time. I think.

1:38:42

It's like I remember at the time being

1:38:45

a fucking teenager and being like, Wow, this

1:38:47

is huge, And I don't

1:38:50

know why I'm so obsessed with this actress. I was

1:38:52

going on she had star quality, star quality.

1:38:54

I was going on her. I AMDB every damn

1:38:56

day, commenting on the damn message boards, being like I

1:38:58

love Red macn you were a super fan. I haven't

1:39:00

really shared this with you. I was. I used to go on Canadian

1:39:03

Queen, Canadian Queen. I always I would go in

1:39:05

all the IMDb message boards because back in the day

1:39:07

you had at the bottom of every profile message

1:39:10

boards, and I would go to the ones

1:39:12

of like Sean Hayes and I'd be like, guys,

1:39:15

do we think Sean Hayes is really gay? Like

1:39:18

I would like start up these these

1:39:20

conversations. Oh my god, you were a little troll.

1:39:22

I was a little troll. I was a little you know, a

1:39:25

little reply guy, little keyboard worry. But you

1:39:27

love miss Rachel. I loved Miss Rachel

1:39:29

so much. And what a string of hits

1:39:31

in this in this time period, she really nailed it. What

1:39:34

do you have to say about Rachel? What do I have to say about

1:39:36

Rachel? She has that like iconic

1:39:39

just like intangible quality. And

1:39:42

I mean during this time it was when you talk about

1:39:44

like great comedic performances, you can't really

1:39:46

do much better than Regina George and your girls. She

1:39:49

also fully carried Red Eye the whole

1:39:51

time, like and it was really

1:39:54

kind of it got me in the movie theater for a

1:39:56

movie like that, which I never would go to, like a thriller like

1:39:58

that awesome Wedding Crashers.

1:40:00

She's so winning and like you're so rooting

1:40:02

for them to get together because she's incredible. And

1:40:05

then also the Notebook is you

1:40:07

know, polpy, but

1:40:09

she is giving you romantic drama lead

1:40:12

thank you and okay, Wedding Crashers

1:40:15

like so charming and like, yeah, her and Owen Wilson,

1:40:17

it's like I'm on you like white Unrice, like oh

1:40:19

my god, Like I'm like that's hot. I want

1:40:22

like this is pulling me in the

1:40:24

Notebook. I didn't know this, but during filming

1:40:27

her and Ryan Gosling hated each other. Yes,

1:40:29

I couldn't stand each other. And then they started

1:40:31

dating when the movie came out. Yeah, when it came like

1:40:33

but he like tried to get her replaced. I think

1:40:35

he was like, it's other her or me, and they were

1:40:38

like no, Rachel

1:40:40

McAdams. And of course the famous moment

1:40:42

in the filming stone, I don't

1:40:45

care what you think. Of

1:40:47

course you do small

1:40:50

work work, and it's so shocking

1:40:52

to me. The her Oscar nominationist for Spotlight, a

1:40:54

movie where she doesn't do much since

1:40:58

she's good. She listens to Michael Syrol Creighton, Um,

1:41:01

but you said something to me recently

1:41:03

where you were Like her performance as Regina

1:41:05

George like did influence female

1:41:09

behavior in generation?

1:41:11

It did it? It and its specifically

1:41:13

influenced what girls

1:41:16

thought was dominant social media. Her

1:41:20

literally, her vocal delivery, her

1:41:23

inflections, her state

1:41:25

of being, the way she carried herself

1:41:28

all trickled down to actual

1:41:31

girls trying on the sort

1:41:34

of visage of mean girl in

1:41:36

a way that like, I don't know, I didn't go to school

1:41:38

in the eighties or the nineties, but it's like that didn't really happened, like

1:41:41

after Heather's came out, you know. It's like Rachel

1:41:43

like like Regina George is like, no,

1:41:45

it's that thing. It's like a blessing and a curse because

1:41:47

you have people like that who are so good

1:41:50

that you want to be like them, and when they're playing

1:41:52

someone mean, it's like that's

1:41:55

the thing. It's like, I mean, that's literally

1:41:57

kind of what the movie is about. It's about idole, where

1:42:00

ship amongst peers or amongst people

1:42:02

that are like attainable to be around and become

1:42:05

and so what you'll do to become

1:42:08

that and I think it weirdly played. It played out

1:42:11

um for people that were too young to understand

1:42:13

what was going on. That's the impact of I mean, she's

1:42:15

incredible, incredible, Um Alright, number

1:42:18

thirty three, we have Lemonade. Remember

1:42:22

when we didn't know what this was going to be. That

1:42:24

it was just her in the in the in the

1:42:26

dreads and like we had

1:42:29

just like the album art, just the album right

1:42:31

was heard in a six inch like set

1:42:33

up. Yeah, and the world the word Lemonade.

1:42:35

It was actually it was don't Hurt Yourself, Yeah

1:42:39

it was. And so she was just had the title

1:42:41

Lemonade, and it was like is it like a purple

1:42:44

range real film, like is

1:42:46

it a collection of music videos? Is

1:42:48

it an album? Is it? What is it? Is it going to be

1:42:50

short? Long? And it ended up being

1:42:53

you know, uh, like long form

1:42:56

music video art piece.

1:43:00

And it was tree and like

1:43:03

a tribute to like Yoruba tribal

1:43:06

motif like it was, and

1:43:08

like we're recording this on the eve,

1:43:10

not on the evel. Black is King is about to come

1:43:12

out her next visual album,

1:43:14

inspired by her time working on The Lion King.

1:43:18

Like you know, Lemonade is a huge culture, huge

1:43:20

culture and like really just

1:43:23

I would say, in

1:43:25

many ways a response to the times as well,

1:43:27

and as well as being a personal

1:43:30

reflection and almost like a personal