0:01

Look Marrier, Oh, I see you.

0:03

My own look over there

0:05

is that culture.

0:06

Yes, lost

0:08

culture ding

0:11

d Lost culture is just calling.

0:13

So the vibes are very summer today

0:15

as New York has turned a corner and become hot.

0:18

And I'm gonna say it, I'm going to already complain

0:20

a little uncomfortable.

0:21

I think once the deal is broken, that

0:23

is when you

0:25

really get it out of your system. And

0:27

I think you're gonna sort of like fold into it

0:30

for the rest of the seas.

0:30

Yeah, I know, I've just had my first summer sweat

0:33

and I'm like no, because it's like, you idealize

0:35

New York so much.

0:36

Because now I live in LA.

0:37

As we all have heard me talk about this

0:40

LA New York conversation is ongoing culturally,

0:42

especially Real Culture number ninety two.

0:44

This La New York conversations is ongoing

0:46

culturally, And.

0:48

You learned recently. What I've learned

0:51

recently is that humidity

0:53

still exists. I mean, you know, it doesn't

0:55

go away just because you idealize New.

0:57

York and that's New York and not LA. And that's

0:59

New York. There's no humidity

1:01

in LA.

1:02

They probably should go over there because the hurricanes

1:04

have come here, like a lot of culture

1:07

happened hurricanes.

1:08

I feel like cypress

1:10

trees. They got to be drinking up a lot of water.

1:12

Who and the palm is good without but

1:15

the cypress, which is my favorite thing about

1:17

La. I don't care too

1:19

much about the terrain. I agree

1:22

with Chloe Sevani. The water is too hard. Ye

1:24

see it very hard. As soon as you're done with the

1:26

shower, you see it sort of like caking

1:29

at the corner. And I go, I don't like that

1:31

mildew. I don't like that calcium around me.

1:33

When Chloe Sevanie dragged La,

1:35

I was like, she's right, Yeah,

1:37

it sucks.

1:38

I'm out of here.

1:39

And then I came here and I'm seconds into being a New

1:41

York again, and I'm like, it's yellmen, I'm

1:44

between two California legends.

1:46

California legends. Indeed, so get this.

1:49

Our guest today hosts a late

1:52

night program and it films

1:54

right next door to my house, which was

1:56

convenient for me when I got booked

2:00

the show. What every actor dreams

2:02

on the Machine, especially really coaching number fifty,

2:05

What every actor dreams us to be booked

2:07

on the show, on the show and I went there and

2:09

I was just like, this is the life host

2:11

your fun ass late night show next

2:13

to Matt Rogers's apartment, right next

2:15

to my apartment where the party is really

2:18

smacks like Seddy Davis when you

2:20

go in. I was rude to everyone. It was a

2:22

total bitch coming in. Now I was a sweetheart.

2:24

New Fate Dunaway clip is kind of making the rounds

2:27

where she has to pick up a line. She goes,

2:29

I'll pick it up, yeah, okay, yeah,

2:31

Fee, And then she goes into the line again. You know the

2:33

thing about being an actress, can you actually move?

2:35

You're in my eye line? She started to give.

2:37

She started to give capital f

2:40

fay, capital f fay. Honestly,

2:42

not since Fee have we seen a

2:44

true legend, a true Now Hollywood

2:47

has sort of you know, I would tell everyone to

2:49

brace themselves because there's some all in the paramount

2:51

lot. Who's coming, Who's coming, She's

2:53

here with us, She's here, she's arrived,

2:56

she's coming. Last night I watched

2:58

Have It All So Good? Netflix

3:00

Stand up special? Have you seen Looking

3:03

for You?

3:04

Yes? I saw that. Ojey.

3:07

We call that when you see it Ojelee. It's

3:10

mean when you watch it when you see it, when you watch it when it

3:12

comes out. Now, I think our guest has early

3:14

Taylor Swift cadence of releases every two

3:17

years, you know, like, oh okay,

3:19

it's time for the special. So you think soon she's

3:21

going to be like way oversaturated World

3:23

War eras Taylor Tomlinson, the

3:25

Other Taylor the Other working

3:27

title of app. We'll definitely get better than that. We'll

3:29

definitely have one already is great. This

3:32

person would never tell anyone to get out of her island

3:34

because she's really good on prompter.

3:36

Really good on prompter.

3:38

You've seen this person, I've seen it in action.

3:40

And when someone is good on prompter, your

3:42

shoulders drop because you think I'm safe.

3:44

You know what I'm saying.

3:46

That's a skilled because guess who's not good on prompter?

3:48

That's a lie, you idiot. Good on cue cards?

3:51

Excuse me?

3:52

What is the goddamn difference?

3:54

C cards harder no

3:57

Q cards can be in any situation.

4:00

If you put a prompter, if you put a monitor with words

4:02

on it, spatially, the footprint

4:04

is such that it can't fit everywhere

4:06

you want it to, on a set, right on

4:08

the stage. And so therefore also

4:12

we have monitors that are not wired that

4:14

go out, that black out at any

4:16

given moment.

4:17

Technology can be a huge

4:19

betrayer of a performer. It's

4:21

actually really coach are number forty. Technology

4:24

can be a huge betrayer.

4:25

Of a live performer.

4:26

So cue cards and also they've

4:28

been recently unionized, which we celebrate.

4:30

Love that, and maybe we'll change the culture at after midnight

4:33

because maybe they'll bring Q cards in.

4:34

Well, I think I think our guests is very comfortable on the prompter, So

4:36

I don't want to like Perturban like, it's.

4:38

Not about comfort, It's about getting union

4:40

men jobs. Okay, okay,

4:43

Aretty Strong, our

4:46

guest is one of the greats, she say. When I remember

4:48

I told her this when I did her show, Like

4:50

when I saw her at JFL in twenty

4:52

nineteen, she was one of varieties new faces

4:54

alongside Joel Kim and Jabuki, a bunch of our friends.

4:57

It was a memorable night and Southern Mama, I

4:59

was like, my surprise that

5:01

she has leveled up in such a way and become this like

5:04

comedians comedian. And I went to my coffee shop

5:06

today and told the girl that worked there she was on the show, and

5:08

she collapsed. She watches her for your Standus

5:10

specials like every night before bed, like just

5:13

one of the greats, like my shock registers

5:15

at zero that she's so successful

5:17

and just one of the best.

5:18

I'm so happy she's here, So happy she's here. Everyone

5:21

welcome, talented.

5:24

Oh my god, I have so much to say that's good

5:26

on a podcast.

5:27

First off, equally surprised you feel that way about

5:29

que cards, the fact that you can read handwriting

5:31

better than.

5:32

They put our guys through class.

5:34

Oh okay, where it's like you got to make sure the A

5:36

has a peek and you got to make sure you

5:39

know the Q looks doesn't look

5:41

too funky, like the letters have to be glyphic

5:43

in.

5:44

The yeah, and I hear you on the blacking out

5:46

with the prompter. But like if the person holding

5:48

the Q cards is going through something.

5:49

Like, there's the same there's

5:52

the same room for air. I

5:55

think in a different way.

5:56

I was so surprised everybody

5:58

was so impressed I could read tell a prompter, like

6:00

to a point where I'm like, is everybody making fun

6:02

of me? What

6:05

I was like, when we can They told me for the screen

6:07

test, they were like, you need to practice. They

6:10

were like, we're rooting for you to get this job. Practice.

6:12

So I was on TikTok watching

6:14

local news anchors do teleprompter

6:17

tests and and those are the real

6:19

legends. And they were so fast, and of course

6:21

none of them are funny. It's like five car pile up on the

6:23

freeway today. And I was practicing alone in my

6:25

room like a crazy person, and then

6:27

I got in. I was like, this is so much easier. They're going

6:29

with my the speed of my speaking.

6:32

Yeah, And truly three

6:35

months in, people are still like you are so good on prompt

6:37

I'm like, you know, I do stand up for memory.

6:39

I'm gonna memorize my jokes everyone.

6:42

Yes, but people are just more impressed when you're

6:44

on television than they are by live

6:46

performance.

6:47

For some reason. That's interesting.

6:48

But don't you feel like it's the same lobe in your brain

6:50

that like is good at like filing away, like

6:52

what you're going to stay next on stage without a prompter

6:55

and what you say on that.

6:56

I actually think No, I think they're different,

6:58

which it actually your show so perfect because

7:00

you get the props for both. You're like I'm

7:02

reading and I'm doing something live.

7:04

Uh huh, sure, good

7:06

for you coded it is.

7:08

It's very this coded for visual

7:10

medium. I'm patting my head and rubbing my tummy,

7:13

which you're doing so well.

7:14

It's not bad.

7:15

I'm telling you right now, I'm not doing it badly,

7:18

pretty good.

7:19

I like, and I could bet I could do a prompter while I

7:21

do yeah, yeah, no hesitation.

7:24

I already fucked up.

7:25

Our first interaction in years Taylor,

7:27

where we saw each other in the lobby. I was like, it's so nice to me.

7:30

I've been a fan and I remember that

7:32

the JFL sat and you did it so classically.

7:34

You were like, we did meet that one time at JFL.

7:37

Joel Kan Booster introduced us.

7:38

No, and I shouldn't have even said no. I should have pretended

7:40

because it.

7:41

Was so brief the way we met. We met on

7:43

the street.

7:43

Joel Can Booster and I said hi to each other and like

7:46

introduced us so quickly, and I shouldn't

7:48

have even said anything.

7:49

I should have said nice to meet you too. I wish

7:51

there were cameras around for that moment,

7:53

because we need a reality travel.

7:55

You need real everyone does.

7:56

You and your siblings would make a great reality what's your

7:58

dad like? Just that would great?

8:00

We don't speak to our dad, but yeah, it was. But

8:02

yes, the four of us are very funny and great.

8:05

Sure premise it

8:08

conflict there, but

8:12

your dad's such great fodder for the show though,

8:14

for your your stets, Yeah

8:17

about it.

8:17

I think everybody's parents are great fodder for I

8:20

mean everybody doing stand up you talk about your family?

8:22

Ye, like yeah, total is

8:24

it that Flannery O'Connor quote

8:27

or she said anyone with a childhood has

8:30

enough material for the rest of their life.

8:32

Yeah, sounds like flannering and then and

8:34

then and then it was and then it becomes a terrifying

8:36

story about you know a woman. I think Flannering

8:38

O'Connor wrote Baby Reindeer. Wow,

8:41

Baby Reindeer is a very O'Connor.

8:43

That's why that's what it's catching on. So that's

8:46

like there's a huge netflix

8:48

for him today. Wait a minute, I've you

8:50

just like lit up something in me. Flannering

8:52

O'Connor really buffed me up in college

8:55

and I haven't gotten the chance to talk about that

8:57

woman. Okay, there's a ghost

8:59

tour in Savannah where you go, you go,

9:02

you go to a house and you'really.

9:03

Did hit the hip you did.

9:06

You actually plowed as hippocat

9:08

No.

9:08

And this is great because Savannah. I'm going there on tour

9:10

in the fall. It's not announcedent, but we are doing that. And

9:12

it's the one city I haven't performed in that I've always

9:15

wanted to go to.

9:15

It's such a great city. We performed there like years

9:17

ago with our skeedch group and it was like Charleston.

9:21

Oh, take back everything I've

9:23

said. They are not the same, a similar city.

9:25

Keep it in keep give me equally

9:28

haunted, equally haunted that say,

9:30

in Augustine, Florida.

9:31

Ever been there? No, go there? Drink

9:33

from the uh what is it? The fountain of

9:35

Youth? Oh, and that's where it is.

9:37

Go see a haunted house. Oh well, be sorry.

9:40

You'll feel a little sick from the water, and

9:42

you'll feel a little disturb from the ghost.

9:44

The Mountain of Youth.

9:45

Now, was that like a conky stador in like

9:47

the thirteen hundreds? Being like, we found it and

9:49

it's just like a hot.

9:50

Spring very much.

9:51

So yeah, okay, yeah, well it doesn't actually

9:53

keep you young, I've aged. I mean, you do look great, Thank

9:56

you so much. I absolutely lathered on moistries

9:58

of here, because the other thing about New is

10:00

you.

10:01

Drink so much here.

10:02

Yeah, you drink so much. You

10:06

drink alcohol all the time because you're always

10:08

like out and fun and doing things in New York.

10:10

And then you go to LA and you're like, I'm putting on a face

10:12

mask, I'm getting a facial I'm

10:14

drinking only water tonight. If I have a diet

10:16

coke, that's fucking crazy.

10:18

Yeah, you know what I mean.

10:20

If you need to treat I got drunk for the first time

10:22

last September in New York for the first

10:24

time, for the first time ever.

10:26

Was well, I sold out.

10:27

Radio City twice and

10:29

my ex fiance came to a show and I was like, I've earned

10:32

this. Yeah, I can

10:34

get drunk now. And so we

10:36

went to is it Maurice's Crisis or

10:38

Crises, which.

10:39

Is whatever whatever you want depending

10:42

on whatever you say right now forever.

10:46

So that's where I got drunk and it was perfect. Yeah,

10:49

it was so nice.

10:50

So there's just a video of me drunkenly singingly miss

10:53

oh perfect.

10:53

So you did the whole thing at Maurice Crisis, Yes, you.

10:55

Did the whole thing.

10:56

Yeah, where I just got drunk and was like venmoing people

11:00

and to find out.

11:00

That that's who you are as a drunk person sun

11:03

ass and sings lames. It was really

11:05

wrong.

11:05

What's yours? That's what they

11:07

were, that's what they were playing. I didn't like request

11:10

it, but they played it.

11:11

So you sang every part basically, Yes, you

11:13

were the John you were?

11:16

Yeah.

11:16

Oh, speaking of lame is, do you still

11:18

have the Hugh jack and glove? I gave it to

11:21

my that's my manager.

11:23

That's great.

11:23

Yeah, so I like framed it and I also got a Sutton

11:26

Foster glove, so I framed both

11:28

of them and I gave it to her at the taping for Have It All.

11:30

Yeah, oh that's amazing. That's amazing.

11:33

So you leave out the Sutton Foster part of the story because

11:35

it's not going to play.

11:36

And let's say, yeah, exactly, it's

11:38

not. She plays

11:40

all the time in New York.

11:41

Yeah.

11:41

I was like, I'm going to take this show to Australia, London.

11:44

It'll work there.

11:45

Yeah, it may not be. I love Sutton Foster,

11:47

We love Sutton love Sutton Foster.

11:49

I mean, does it all?

11:51

Does it all?

11:51

And but does it all? I mean I don't think there's a role

11:53

on Broadway. She hasn't played. Oh I'm

11:56

not dragging her. Yeah, I'm saying she opens

11:58

a lot of shops. It's like her

12:00

and like a few other people that, like, you

12:03

know, if they're in a show, like, people are going to go see

12:05

it. And that's why I'm just like, let's get more of let's

12:07

get that, let's develop more stars, let's make

12:09

that. And I'm so happy now we

12:11

got to talk about this because that's what we're doing over

12:13

at CBS.

12:14

We that's what

12:16

we're doing.

12:16

My god, we're creating new stars.

12:19

I'm actually surprised to hear that you screen tested for

12:22

it. I would have thought they developed this around you, right.

12:23

No, no, no, oh no, I mean this show is it's

12:26

a reimagining of at Midnight,

12:28

So like this is not you know, it's

12:30

it's different than at.

12:31

Midnight in Pitch at Midnight

12:33

And they were like, you know this is something hunt.

12:35

No, no, no, absolutely no.

12:36

I mean they hired Joe Firestone before they hired

12:38

me, Like, I think they screen tested a few people,

12:41

and so that was interesting to do all

12:43

this press before the show came out, before

12:45

I was even hosting the show, and they're asking

12:47

me about it and they're like, so your show and I'm like.

12:50

Not my show, like interesting in

12:52

a good way. I love that about it.

12:54

I'm like I am an employee, like I'm part

12:57

of a team. And it's why I wanted to

12:59

do it, because stand up such a solo

13:01

sport, you know, And I was like, oh, I would love to come home

13:03

and work with a group of people that I really like,

13:05

which I do, and you

13:07

know, it would take something like that to get me off the road

13:09

in a significant way. But yeah,

13:12

I really I was very uncomfortable

13:14

doing press because I was having a hard time

13:16

going like, yep, this is the Taylor Tomlinson

13:19

hour.

13:20

It's really not at all.

13:21

I have a very specific job, which is like make

13:24

three other people look good every night.

13:26

Like if I'm funny, it's like a bonus.

13:28

Well it usually happens.

13:30

It feels really good when you got to go do the

13:32

show because like, it feels so great when you

13:34

get there because the writers are all great. I mean yes,

13:36

for people out there that don't know, Sam Tiger rights for the

13:38

show. Joe Bierstone is the head writer. This is Michelle

13:41

Davis. Yeah, she's amazing. We met

13:43

because we did Survivor. We did

13:45

it Quarantine Survivor

13:47

together. What we

13:50

were both in the same We didn't know each other. I didn't

13:52

even know she was a comedy writer. She's great, but

13:54

we were just both in the same online

13:58

virtual Survivor, which was all on

14:00

Slack. And I remember they

14:02

voted her out too early because she was a personality

14:05

threat. Her personality was too good. I

14:08

made I made it a really long way

14:11

because they were like winning, you can

14:13

keep her around. No one wants him to win. But

14:16

that's true, you're not threatening enough, no in

14:18

the personality. Yeah, do you wish she were sitting

14:20

down on the show.

14:27

Yes, Honestly, I'm surprised

14:29

at how I have to wear heels almost

14:31

every episode, Like we've kind of I have gotten

14:34

my stylas Terror, who is amazing. She was

14:36

putting me in the highest platforms you'd ever seen, and

14:39

you know, everyone else in the show is like, you know, you don't

14:41

have to wear that. You're behind the podium for most

14:43

of it. I thought I'd be behind the podium the whole

14:45

show, but one of I think the network

14:47

notes was like we want one one act

14:50

to be out in front of the podiums.

14:51

Yeah, we want to see them shoes.

14:53

We want to see the shoe. We

14:56

we just changed it.

14:57

Where I was starting the show standing

14:59

out front, introducing everybody, and we just changed

15:02

it. Now I introduce people from behind the podium

15:04

and it's so safe back there. Yeah, you

15:06

can hold those things. Yeah, No,

15:08

I've never I don't think i've ever. I never thought

15:11

I was going to be sitting down. So it wasn't like I

15:13

showed up and was.

15:13

Like, what right, you know? But can

15:16

I And I'm sure You've been told this many times.

15:18

What I love about you is that you can.

15:21

Yeah.

15:22

Well, first of all, this is worth discussing

15:25

because I think you are one of our great pacers.

15:28

You are such a good paster on stage

15:30

in your stand up nice and the spotlight

15:32

really you really give the person

15:34

behind the spotlight like you give them

15:37

their paycheck because they are just following you.

15:39

You're moving and what I love it for

15:41

a minute, but it's all hitting.

15:44

You can just tell you are out. You perform

15:46

a ton right Like Yeah, I was reading that

15:48

you you were one of the highest grossing

15:50

comedians and I guess it was like one hundred

15:52

and thirty shows in a year. That is wild.

15:55

Yeah, it was a lot.

15:56

Yeah, it was a lot because we just kept adding,

15:58

which was you know, as.

16:00

You love being out there or because you're just like,

16:02

are you someone that like likes your schedule

16:04

to be full? I think both.

16:05

I think I like being out there. And there's like once

16:08

you start selling tickets, you just didn't sell tickets

16:10

for so long that everyone's kind

16:12

of going like, you better, what's the fra make

16:15

hay while the sunshines.

16:19

That I'll tuxt her, not

16:21

knowing if she's said or alive, fully dead, fully

16:24

dead? I learned today I

16:26

don't know who that is. She rode

16:28

great.

16:30

I love her and great guys that

16:32

put herself into Actually

16:35

yeah she was like Stevany Myren Twilight.

16:37

Cameo make

16:41

kay, make Hay.

16:43

You know you do feel like And also when during

16:45

COVID, I thought I was one of the people it's

16:48

done. I was like, it's over. There

16:50

was a studio in la that had built a

16:52

stage that was a wall of zoom

16:55

screens, yes, like

16:58

fifteen feet high, and it felt old black

17:00

mirror. It was crazy, but we did it and we were

17:02

like, I think this is the future. I think this is

17:04

no one's ever going to anything live ever again.

17:06

And then I think once everybody got vaccinated, it was

17:08

actually the total opposite where everybody

17:11

wanted to go and wanted to be seeing

17:13

live events and experiencing life.

17:15

That's pretty cool.

17:16

Yeah, And I bring up the pace thing because you

17:18

are stationary standing up in your heels

17:21

behind a podium, but you do you have a handhold with

17:23

the podium, whereas.

17:25

I'm leaning on it emotionally,

17:27

and.

17:28

That's what it's there for. It's literally what it's there

17:30

for. The podiums are there to be leaned on. It's actually real

17:32

coature number sixis are there to be

17:34

leaned on?

17:35

It just is you're doing the right thing.

17:37

Yeah, thank you.

17:38

Did you have fun on the show for real?

17:40

And as I was leaving, it was that thing of

17:43

like everyone being like

17:45

that was so fun. That was so fun. I want to do it again

17:48

because you feel what you were saying is like

17:50

I guess that is like the consummate host thing to do.

17:52

It's like, right, you get there and your job

17:55

is to have everyone around you shine, and you

17:57

get there and you immediately feel like there

17:59

are so many jokes

18:01

that are like like there for you,

18:03

and they listen to you about what you want to say

18:05

too, and you get paired with a writer and I

18:07

had Sam and we know each other. And

18:09

there was also so much of him in the humor too,

18:12

which I loved and I was like, I was just it

18:14

was a really good vibehow and you

18:16

should be really proud of that.

18:18

Again, I have literally nothing to do

18:20

with anything, Like I can't take credit for anything

18:23

about this show. Like I did

18:25

not hire anybody. I'm one of the people they

18:27

hired, and I'm so glad they did because

18:29

everyone they hired is fucking

18:31

lovely. Like there's not one person when

18:34

I go into work and I'm like, I hope I don't run into so

18:36

and so, Like everybody's so great. The writer's

18:38

room is so talented, Like it

18:41

is both harder and easier than I thought

18:43

the job was going to be. But I

18:45

mean, again, people being impressed I can read. I'm

18:47

like I usually have to write my own shit, right, Like

18:50

there's nine people writing me great

18:52

jokes every day, Like this

18:54

is the dream, this is sugestic.

18:56

Are you like sort of reassured that, like you

18:58

can succeed in bow of

19:01

those like parameters though, Like I can

19:03

nail my own stuff and I can beat

19:05

the delivery system for someone else's things.

19:07

Right, Well, keep all the plate spinning right

19:09

in case this one shatters.

19:11

Right, there's a whole other.

19:13

Then you're like, well, I know you don't buy

19:15

tickets to see me do stand up anymore?

19:16

Did you know I could read?

19:17

Yeah? I can actually read quite well. I do it

19:19

almost every night, cold cold.

19:21

Read every morning.

19:22

And the hardest part

19:24

of that job mispronouncing words in

19:26

the writer's room cold read first

19:28

off.

19:28

Where I'm like, this is humiliating.

19:31

Yeah, yeah, And also I would imagine you're pretty

19:33

like literate with pop culture and stuff. But like

19:36

when there's a reference that you don't get, like such as

19:38

Flannery O'Connor, like people could just be talking about

19:40

her right in front of you and you don't even know who she is, right,

19:43

Like that could happen like often,

19:46

pretty often, But I feel like you

19:48

are on your reference.

19:50

There is I don't know, not always, there's sometimes

19:52

I pretend and then we get to rehearsal and I go,

19:54

Jack, can you explain.

19:55

This joke to me?

19:56

And then the whole control rooms like we don't really know

19:58

either then, or Joe has

20:00

to explain it to us, And like Joe Carson's

20:02

like, I think it's just dumb, and I'm like, okay, I just wanted to

20:04

make.

20:05

Sure it was just dumb, just

20:07

dumb, and I'm like, okay, good.

20:08

I didn't.

20:09

I was embarrassed to ask in front of thirty

20:11

people this morning, but.

20:12

I'm glad we talked about it. That's great.

20:14

And there's also times where they write a really funny joke and

20:16

I'm like, I just have never said that before,

20:18

Like I've never said, like read you to

20:20

filth, like I've never said that, you

20:23

know where. I'm like, I just I'm

20:25

like, I just can't.

20:26

Sell this, you know. I mean there's

20:28

a lot of gay energy there because I remember like

20:30

speaking of like you wearing shoes and like

20:32

looking amazing. I actually did this

20:34

gay thing to you.

20:37

Do you remember remembers you never did.

20:41

I think about it every night before I loved

20:43

it.

20:43

I went.

20:46

And you also did this. I was like you went up and

20:48

down, yes, because honestly

20:51

you had earned it. But right afterwards, I

20:53

was just like, did I just like be

20:55

so gay at her? But I was that's

20:57

actually good because I actually am that gay and

20:59

I met this when I did it, Yeah,

21:01

I meant it.

21:02

It didn't feel empty.

21:03

It was motivating and it was positive.

21:05

You're not an empty gesticulator.

21:07

In fact, the girl today at

21:09

the coffee shop who collapsed when I said

21:12

that you were coming on the show literally

21:14

goes, oh, I watch our show every night. Her suit.

21:18

She watches the show too.

21:19

She watches the show and she watches your stand up. She's a

21:21

huge fan.

21:22

So my favorite part of your episode

21:25

is there is one point where I think James Davis

21:27

buzzed in before you and you went.

21:29

No, that's really my energy,

21:31

though I don't like it.

21:32

I've done a lot of game shows, even though this one's

21:34

like fake and you know, like you're playing

21:37

on both sides of that game show I've done.

21:39

I've done a lot in that space, weirdly enough,

21:41

not because I'm like passionate about the form. It

21:43

just I say yes the shit.

21:45

Yeah.

21:45

So there was a moment

21:47

on we was on Celebrity Jeopardy where I screamed

21:50

no when someone else got

21:52

a thing because it was like, I think it was literally

21:54

like a gay question for me, and

21:56

I was like, I felt it was like a Beyonce question,

21:59

and I was like, I felt it was completely unfair

22:02

that someone else should be able to answer.

22:04

I was like, no, this is my category. It was like

22:06

it just didn't feel right, and so I made it known audibly.

22:09

Yeah, and you're like, this is TV. Let's run it again.

22:11

Let's funny.

22:11

We don't have to pretend this. We're really playing.

22:15

I mean I got to be on the show with Caroline Ray's

22:17

yeah, come on, yeah, you guys

22:19

are really connecting.

22:20

I felt definitely connected.

22:22

I mean, all three of you played really well together.

22:23

James, that was like you'd ever met anybody,

22:26

like nobody had met each other. Caroline and

22:28

I had had like an online

22:31

like fest because

22:33

she is Henry Persky,

22:36

my ex and my musical director that's

22:38

like his l a mom, so I know her a little bit

22:40

and she does give that energy, but.

22:42

Also just like one of the comics too, which

22:45

is fun.

22:45

She was so good.

22:46

Yea and Hilda, come were

22:49

you a Sabrina fan?

22:50

I couldn't religious Household, no

22:53

Witch, no Witches, no cable.

22:56

I think we had cable, but it was like, I don't think we can

22:58

watch like anything on Nicola.

23:00

Okay, Like they were like Cat is too mean.

23:02

To dog, Like it was like

23:04

Angelica's too mean to the babies, Like it

23:06

was cat.

23:08

Is too mean to dog. Yeah, Angelica's

23:10

behaviors were not in God's

23:12

light. But no, no, no, no, no, no.

23:15

But all so demonic in

23:17

a way.

23:17

Oh yeah, no, it was unnatural.

23:19

It was unnatural. It was clearly that

23:21

I don't know, was from Hell here

23:24

to every child and like

23:27

really being in the nightmares of kids, right, yeah, totally.

23:29

Yeah, but see this is a curious not

23:32

a phenomenon. I just think there was a time

23:34

when I felt so like

23:37

I was like, what the fuck, like not a religious household,

23:39

but no cable right, so I felt like

23:41

I was going to school like totally huge

23:43

in the dark, totally in the dark. But

23:45

there were like the very religious

23:48

kids who still had

23:50

access to it, and it made me so jealous

23:53

of like, see, like this should be a thing that

23:55

like is restricted to you, and yet

23:57

you have it, and yet you are being a

23:59

very like pious child by like not non

24:02

accessing it. Yeah you know what I mean.

24:03

Yeah, No, being sheltered as a kid is

24:06

not a good situation. I think I watched

24:08

Napoleon Dynamite through other kids,

24:11

uh huh, quoting it, Yeah, but.

24:13

I think nap was actually kind of like youth

24:15

group friendly too. I can't remember

24:17

in it was. I think because of the way

24:19

he dressed and the fact that he was

24:22

so sexually non threatening. I think parents

24:24

were like, this is fine, his t shirts

24:26

tucked in. Yeah,

24:28

he's clearly wearing clothes too.

24:31

Warm for this heat. That we're

24:34

okay.

24:35

And I think there was the thing about John Hater being Mormon,

24:37

where I think there was a

24:39

lot of a lot of Christians at my school were like, oh

24:41

no, we love Napoleon, like it's the one thing that we can

24:43

watch.

24:44

Yeah.

24:44

I was happy, happy for y'all.

24:46

Okay, Yeah, but I mean sheltered goes.

24:48

But it's not just you can't

24:50

watch this it's demonic. There's also just

24:53

what's out, what's popular? Yeah,

24:55

we're too busy watching veggietails. So

24:57

did you details did.

24:59

You go on like a spree at when you sort

25:02

of got some freedom from that, Like, did you go on a

25:04

pop culture spree?

25:05

Did you say I'm reading every book about a witch?

25:09

Well, I read Harry Potter for like two years, and

25:11

then my dad took us to see

25:13

the third one and was like, these dementors are

25:15

the devil, these are demons, and

25:18

so took it away devastated, absolutely

25:20

devastated. And then like

25:22

my senior year of high school, I

25:24

think I saw the last one in theaters with my friends,

25:27

Like it's like a senior activity.

25:28

I don't even care.

25:29

So when it was taken away from you, like what were you

25:32

barred from doing? Like the books and the movies,

25:34

all of it.

25:35

Yeah, And I was like obsessed, like obsessed

25:38

for two years, like got me through my mother's death, and

25:40

it was just gone one day and I was like, oh

25:43

yeah, So when people make fun of millennials for liking

25:45

Harry Potter, I'm like, that really got

25:48

some of us through some shit.

25:50

Yeah, I'm very much.

25:52

Like one thousand.

25:53

Yeah.

25:53

Yeah. I was just talking about this yesterday because

25:55

we were talking about JK and like what's gone down?

25:57

Yeah yeah, And it's just like it's so shocking

26:00

that someone can so understand the

26:02

experience of being targeted

26:04

for like being different, et cetera, and she

26:06

can be this way, but I really do. I'm

26:08

in the Daniel Radcliffe school of like if

26:10

it was important to you, like that's all, it can stay

26:13

important to you, like that are an impact that

26:15

it had on you isn't invalidated

26:17

by this person falling off

26:19

the deep end whatever and for whatever she believes.

26:22

But I did notice those Harry Potter referencesn't

26:24

the specialists? Yeah, And I was like, this is

26:26

formative, this is millennial formative, very

26:28

formative.

26:38

Oh my god.

26:39

Also, I listened to your Challengers episode this morning.

26:41

You did, yes, see it well after

26:43

you did our show. I like binge the

26:45

podcast.

26:46

Oh my god.

26:47

I love this podcast, which I'm sure you're

26:49

sick of hearing because every guest is like, I love this. It's

26:53

so nice to be excited to come to a podcast.

26:55

I'm not like dreading it.

26:56

Oh my god. I've been so excited.

26:57

But I was so excited to talk to you both about Challenging

27:00

because I saw you posting about it on Instagram.

27:02

Saw it Friday, and I had seen it the night prior.

27:04

Yeah, I saw.

27:05

It Saturday afternoon. I can't

27:07

wait to see it again. And I listened to the whole thing because

27:09

I was like, I don't want to be repetitive. I know that

27:11

already covered it. Oh my god.

27:13

The fucking truro scene start

27:16

to finish, starting from when he pulls the

27:18

stool over with his foot. That

27:21

shot of the first shot of the foot

27:23

Oh my god, we were. I saw

27:25

it with my sibling and Zach. No Towers was

27:27

opening for me, and yeah, Zach's

27:29

the best. But the three of us saw it, and I was so jealous

27:32

that you two. Did you sit together the

27:34

same.

27:34

We saw together the second seen it. I

27:36

saw it Thursday because I just couldn't wait again.

27:38

So I was like excited to go the next time too,

27:40

And I tried to keep a secret that I had seen it, but I couldn't

27:43

hold it in. I could not, So

27:45

did you.

27:46

Your theater was like excited. They were like

27:48

cheering and laughing and all that.

27:50

God.

27:50

See, I was so jealous when I heard that because ours

27:52

was quiet, but I actually think ours

27:54

was just as into.

27:55

It was totally packed, but everybody was like

27:58

nobody was talking.

27:59

Huh a whole movie. I mean, barely

28:02

breathing the whole movie. Not to do spoilers,

28:04

but just as vague as I can be. The racket

28:07

part, which we also when

28:11

it happened, because we were just sitting there like

28:13

like, I don't think Zach and I were breathing for like a

28:15

minute. It's in motion, and then it finally

28:18

happened. I think we both went, yeah,

28:20

just thank you.

28:21

And you know what you were pointing at. You were pointing

28:24

at incredible scripting, which

28:26

is aspirational screenwriting. This

28:28

is is it justin Kurritzky's

28:31

Yeah, this is like even though you knew

28:33

it was coming. And also credit to Luca

28:35

Guardnino because like you knew he was

28:38

going to do that to signal it. But what was great about

28:40

that scene was watching him decide

28:42

whether yeah, and

28:45

so even if you saw it coming, the

28:47

moral conundrum of is he about to

28:49

tell his secret right now?

28:52

And that if

28:54

you felt like you were ahead of it, like that part

28:56

still it like kept

28:58

that tension up. Yeah.

29:00

Also, I don't think everyone did see it coming. For the

29:02

record, I'm not like, oh, that was so obviously. We all

29:04

work in entertainment. We saw

29:06

it coming from a mile away.

29:08

Well, you know, I would say, though, like you

29:10

were saying, you were saying on this episode that like it is

29:12

not so telegraphed. The way that that information

29:14

is first planted is not like

29:17

so obvious.

29:19

It's not like Chekhov's gun when you're like, that's coming

29:21

back.

29:22

Yeah, It's like he does it, and

29:24

it's this fun moment in the movie. I don't know what it

29:26

means, and then in the moment at the end

29:28

when you realize it's coming, you're like, holy

29:30

fuck, what is this gonna push it to? Yeah?

29:32

And then where it pushes it to is I believe signature,

29:36

iconic important.

29:38

I love it well.

29:39

You and Zach were doing there with the pointing it's

29:41

reminding me of this thing. Okay, So you were on

29:43

Stradio Lab Perfect Perfect episode.

29:45

You were saying, how like, if

29:47

it's like a comedy bit that can work anywhere, rather than

29:49

like an alt thing where you're just performing to the comedians

29:51

in the audience, if it's a comedy bit that can work anywhere, a

29:54

comedian won't.

29:55

Laugh haha, but they'll go that's fucking

29:57

great. Yes, you know what I mean.

29:58

Like, that's your response to like seeing something

30:00

that you like just know is sublime. And rather than

30:02

being like ah, which

30:05

we were in our theater, you and Zach were like

30:07

right there, that's good.

30:08

Yeah.

30:09

Which is the hardest part about after midnight, maybe

30:11

that I have to make my face

30:13

and voice do what my heart is doing

30:16

when people have a good joke.

30:17

Is I can't just go that's.

30:18

Good, and you have to really

30:20

make yourself audibly laugh yeah, which has

30:23

not come naturally.

30:24

When do you think that's stopped? Were you ever a laugher?

30:27

I can't remember.

30:28

I mean you're a great laugher though.

30:29

That's so nice. I'm so glad and it feels real,

30:32

feel good. I mean it is really, the emotion is

30:34

real. It's just the physical

30:36

act of It's like when you're younger and they're like you have resting

30:38

bitchface and you're like, I guess I have to address that, you

30:41

know.

30:41

And I mean, I've been doing stand.

30:42

Ups since I was sixteen, so it's hard to know

30:44

exactly when I became a dead eyed comedian

30:48

because I can't I'm like a laugher

30:50

at fifteen, I can't remember.

30:52

So I don't really know, you know what's funny,

30:54

Like I was always a laugher,

30:56

and then I was. We were both laughers

30:58

through college, Like I remember that was a thing.

31:00

Like we would go to each other's shows and they'd be like, they laughed

31:02

so loud Owen's laughing at Matt stuff Matt's

31:04

and they were like, it's not as funny as they're laughing,

31:07

But we were genuinely were like we thought

31:09

it was yeah, And then I don't know what happened, but

31:11

maybe in like twenties, late twenties,

31:14

like when comedy was the only thing I

31:16

did feel that stop and

31:19

I don't know what that is. It's come back,

31:21

I think as I've stopped doing

31:23

explicit comedy as much and now

31:25

do more acting, but like it's been nice

31:27

to feel like entertained

31:29

again by stand up, because that is something

31:32

when you're around it so much as it does start

31:34

to feel like it's less about

31:37

acknowledging it, like in a visceral laughing

31:39

way, and more about like being like I'm

31:41

giving them credit for that, yes you know, yeah,

31:45

yeah, and it's important to give the credit.

31:47

Yeah you know. It means something to comics.

31:49

Like That's why I like, I would imagine JFL

31:51

like where we first saw you was like a

31:54

whole thing because it's like there's audiences

31:56

that are laughing, and also the industry

31:58

is such a thing there, but like there's also the

32:01

other comics there and like the sharing

32:03

of like everyone's comedy. I remember that

32:05

was a really fun night that night

32:07

that you were performing just for laughs,

32:09

the variety, the variety.

32:10

So I totally forgot we even performed for that. I

32:13

only remember doing the like panel

32:15

we did, like a panel for.

32:16

It, uh huh, truly rip because

32:18

I know, I know there were some people in comedy who

32:20

were kind of like dang dong, the Witch is dead, which

32:23

when JFL kind of stopped growing

32:26

up in Montreal, it was the thing that like

32:29

got me, you know, like it would

32:31

be a thing where you like go into town in the summer and like

32:33

there would just be like free performances outside and like

32:36

little kid me like sees a min do a fucking

32:38

quabei qua ass thing and I'm like, I

32:40

love this, Like what is this about? And it

32:42

is kind of sad that it's it is

32:45

this institution and like we warn it to

32:47

an extent, but like it is kind of like

32:49

it's one less outlet for like comedians coming

32:51

up now, which is like kind of a bummer.

32:53

Yeah yeah, not to bring this down.

32:55

Well no, no no, And it is weird when things sort

32:58

of cycle out and something

33:00

else becomes the thing. Like I remember when I got the fifteen

33:02

Minutes on Netflix. I think

33:04

that same year they offered me the half hour on Comedy

33:06

Central, which was all I ever wanted. But then by

33:08

that point it like wasn't the smartest

33:10

idea to do that because people

33:13

couldn't find it or watch it as they weren't putting

33:15

it online. Right, So like things

33:17

shift and the thing that was your dream as a kid

33:20

goes away. Like I feel so bad for people who wanted

33:22

to be on Conan and like just missed

33:24

it, Like, oh my god, it sucks

33:26

because I thankfully got to do it

33:28

a couple of times and that was like the

33:31

dream for years because that's what I watched growing

33:33

up.

33:33

Ah, you were ahead, like this

33:37

is a thing.

33:38

Okay, So starting at sixteen, I

33:40

think you and I have hit the mark where

33:42

it's the majority of our lives

33:44

now has been us trying to like aspire

33:47

to comedy.

33:48

Yeah, yeah, have you.

33:49

Been doing this podcast for eight years?

33:51

Eight?

33:51

Yeah?

33:51

That's crazy crazy.

33:53

It's just saying we're over four hundred

33:55

episodes now and it feels so

33:57

weird. It's now been a part of our life

33:59

for while, and like that was like years

34:02

into us doing comedy too, So what you're saying is true.

34:04

It's like half our life we've been trying to do this.

34:06

So, like, do you anticipate any feeling

34:08

about when you hit the that mark?

34:10

So I guess whatever not to like do the math,

34:12

but like, once you're at that point,

34:15

does it mean anything to you that you're like, I've been doing this,

34:17

this is occupied most of my life.

34:19

Oh yeah, I mean.

34:20

I don't remember.

34:21

If I say it explicitly and have it all, I

34:23

think I might say like, I've been doing

34:25

this for half my life. Yeah, because

34:27

I turned thirty right before

34:29

I filmed that, and yeah,

34:32

that's almost.

34:32

Started at sixteen. Yeah, so what

34:35

does that look like like you

34:37

go, because I would imagine, like you said, you grew

34:39

up with a sheltered upbringing, were in churches.

34:41

Yeah, started in churches. Okay, so it's like,

34:43

what is a church? Sts? What is it do?

34:45

A set

34:49

church? Is it about Leviticus? No?

34:51

I mean some people did. People did

34:53

a lot of church jokes. I didn't have

34:55

any church jokes.

34:56

Yeah, but I don't know.

34:58

I think I had like abstinence, which

35:01

not every church would even let you do that.

35:03

Yeah, because I fell to which I.

35:05

Was like, I'm pro absentence got like I was seventeen

35:07

and I'm like whatever, I'm never whatever.

35:10

I'm so stupid now, But at

35:12

the time, I was like I'm saying the right thing,

35:14

and they're like don't even bring it up, like, don't even

35:17

talk about sex.

35:18

So funny.

35:18

Yeah, I had the thing where totally

35:21

different from stand up though, where it

35:23

was like we were doing improv in high school and we would

35:25

go downtown on Mondays, Yeah,

35:27

to the Boobye Metropolis Theater in Denver, Colorado, and it would

35:30

be like fifteen year olds performing with like thirty two year

35:32

old like drunkards wild, but.

35:34

There was totally normal to us.

35:35

Yeah, like this is what we want to do and like yeah,

35:38

but those shows we would say like it was to get our suck

35:40

out. It was ye was thrust to bomb

35:42

and bomb and bomb and bombing and bomb. Wo'd be comfortable with bombing?

35:45

Yeah, I'm sure it's not the same with you, but

35:47

like.

35:47

No, it is really absolutely Yeah, No,

35:49

you suck for so long. Yeah, stand

35:52

up you suck for and.

35:53

That had to be terrible to suck in a church.

35:56

Honestly, I think churches are a weirdly

35:59

sorry took me

36:01

a minute. I

36:04

hate it when you suck again, what people

36:06

are I actually

36:08

think if you were clean, they were actually

36:11

too supportive. Where

36:13

I'm performing for like hundreds, if not thousands

36:15

of people for fifteen minutes when I'd

36:17

been on stage less than thirty times,

36:19

yeah, and making a couple hundred dollars,

36:21

Like that's insane. R talk about

36:23

a safe, supportive space. And then by the time I was

36:25

going up in clubs when I was eighteen in

36:28

San Diego, people were like, how'd you get

36:30

so polished on stage? And I'm like, I got too

36:32

much stage time too early, just

36:34

because I was clean. And it's

36:37

such a small scene,

36:39

if you could even call that circuit, I would

36:41

say.

36:41

And so when you're that age, like and you're

36:43

starting to do stand up, like but you've had the upbringing

36:46

that you had, like who are the icons?

36:48

Like who do you look up to?

36:49

Like Brian Reagan?

36:50

Okay, you can listen to there's a serious

36:52

XM clean comedy station.

36:54

That was the one.

36:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

36:57

Was like Brian Reagan and Jim

36:59

Gas again. And then they're like, hey, Mitch

37:01

Hedberg actually okay, Like Mitch

37:04

was okay, yeah, he was a lot.

37:06

Yeah, I mean not every single one. He did swear

37:09

sometimes, you know, there were certain ones.

37:11

Were there not a lot of female stand

37:13

ups. Then at the time you Madigan at

37:16

so good, you feel like at that time, like a

37:18

lot of female stand ups were sort of like airing

37:21

on the side of like edgier because they felt

37:23

like maybe they felt like they had something to prove or literally

37:25

did because they're just they weren't giving them the time

37:28

and the space, so that probably made

37:30

them something that was outside of your

37:33

viewing habits because they were not appropriate.

37:36

Yeah.

37:36

No, it was like Kathleen and Ellen

37:38

is like who you could listen to comfortably

37:41

with your parents in the car.

37:42

Sure, And I don't know.

37:44

I get annoyed when people go like, isn't it just

37:46

such a boys club?

37:47

And you're like shot up. No, like

37:49

not anymore.

37:51

The Internet.

37:51

It hasn't been for years, but you know,

37:54

fifteen years, isn't that long ago that

37:56

or even ten years ago that.

37:57

That was such a thing.

37:58

Like I remember Bride'smaids came out my

38:00

senior year of high school and it was like, hi

38:03

about formative.

38:04

Yeah, it was like insane. They were like so many

38:06

funny women in one.

38:07

Movie and they let them make this and it's so wild,

38:09

And again that's not really that long ago. But

38:11

now we're like, oh, we have girls trip, we have joy, right, like

38:14

we have so many of those examples

38:16

now, Yeah, yeah, we're you know, it's

38:18

easy to forget.

38:19

That's totally.

38:19

While we're in this zone, we should ask the central

38:22

question of the podcast.

38:22

Taylor Tomlinson, what is the culture that made you say culture

38:25

is for me?

38:25

Okay?

38:25

I thought about this a lot, A lot of

38:28

things I could say. I

38:30

think the culture that made me say

38:32

culture was for me was Baz

38:35

Luhrman's Romeo and Juliet Oh

38:37

in ninth grade, good for you, thank you when

38:40

we all good, when we all thank

38:42

you so much, when we were all like, do

38:46

I understand Shakespeare? Like

38:48

you're fourteen, You're like, I get it.

38:50

And then you could watch Clueless and be like, this is also

38:53

Shakespeare. Yeah, it's Jane

38:55

O's but like Shakespeare.

38:57

Yeah, You're like I totally get the You're

39:00

like it's a book, and I was like, oh okay,

39:03

Like you just felt like you were.

39:04

So in

39:06

both.

39:07

Yeah, yes, it

39:09

really.

39:09

It just because my sibling

39:11

and I actually we watched some of it last night because I was like,

39:14

I gotta remember this movie, and I think

39:16

it holds up.

39:17

It's oh yeah, I think it's

39:19

so good.

39:20

It holds up at the very least as a shampoo commercial.

39:23

I mean, is giving

39:26

you Guarnier fruit tees

39:30

water went down fish tank commercial

39:32

honestly, Yeah, the fish tank culture

39:34

thing. Bring back the.

39:35

Fish tank such a seventies eighties thing

39:38

that like really died maybe with that movie.

39:40

Unfortunately I can't think of another one.

39:42

I can't think of another fish tank, you know

39:44

what I mean? Well, the one Monique Samuel's

39:47

had in her house on Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh, sure

39:49

she's she's not in front of it, but that's it.

39:50

That's it.

39:51

I would say that that movie was

39:54

not only a Leo moment, but that was that

39:56

was the Clardines moment. Yes, that

39:59

was after my.

40:01

She's fresh off of my so called life and little Women.

40:04

You have to imagine like she

40:06

could have made like Kate Win's

40:08

lily Choices and choice Titanic.

40:11

Yes, this is wild.

40:13

Yeah.

40:14

Now did you see this before or after Titanic?

40:16

Oh?

40:17

Because I think I saw Titanic first.

40:18

Yes, Okay, So so we had the same order of this Leo

40:21

fever Leo fever and then you go back

40:23

and watch for Me and Juliet and it is just God

40:26

blessed Jack Dawson. But there's

40:28

something about Leo playing Romeo that is the

40:31

actual awakening.

40:32

Do you know what I mean?

40:32

Well, he's wearing a suit, and he's.

40:33

Wearing a suit, he's wearing he's wearing armor, he's wearing

40:36

like yeah, you know what I mean.

40:37

Yes, he's the one outfit in Titanic,

40:40

right, you know, I mean he's And

40:42

then he cleans.

40:43

Up and you're like, yeah

40:46

he does, but again

40:48

for a second, and they slick his hair back and it actually is not

40:50

as.

40:50

It doesn't work, you know what. I understand

40:53

it for people, it's not for me.

40:54

I want to And he goes downstairs

40:57

and he takes off the jacket.

40:59

One hundred percent. He had that insane

41:01

side bang too that everyone tried to

41:03

do, like that that moment, this.

41:05

Swoop woop, the swoop. But

41:08

that's really can I I'm

41:10

gonna be annoying. We

41:12

did a sketch on us now, so

41:14

good, thank you loved it was great.

41:17

It was so good.

41:17

I get an email and I have I've

41:19

been too scared to reply.

41:22

Can I should I just do it? What? I

41:24

don't know what reply?

41:26

I get two calls from an from an unknown number.

41:28

What is this? Then I get an email

41:32

bazzler, shut up,

41:34

I'm gonna read it.

41:35

And then I cut it out of it if it feels too but

41:38

email, you can't

41:40

cut it out. This is the thing. I have not replied to him,

41:43

and I'm reading. I think we're going to.

41:44

See what the contents of the email are and then

41:47

we're gonna Okay, he's not mad, he's

41:49

not mad. Okay.

41:50

The subject line is I wish you'd been around when I was

41:52

casting. Don't tell you, and hey

41:56

boen, this is a note from a fellow Aussie. First,

41:59

I wanted to how well you Neil Mila reginas Now

42:01

if only he'd been around when I was casting? Jokes aside,

42:03

I love that you Okay, Yeah, anyway, this is all very very

42:05

sweet.

42:07

How would you feel about a coffee you

42:09

gotta get?

42:11

Are you kidding?

42:13

That's all.

42:16

It's not.

42:17

It's not obnoxious, and it's good because now if he

42:19

had any feelings about like, oh, neering, didn't respond.

42:21

Now it's out there that you're like,

42:23

I was too scared you too much?

42:25

Exactly.

42:25

Yeah, I was at the same house party as baz Lerman

42:28

in La and he hangs

42:30

out. This guy hangs out at me. I'm

42:32

just saying it was after one am. You were

42:35

not getting coffee

42:38

you were singingly miss

42:40

I was not. It was just

42:42

so funny to see him out in the world

42:44

because he's one of those directors that's like also a

42:46

star. Yeah you know what I mean, like and they're

42:48

out there, but like he's a star just

42:51

being the director. He didn't start as

42:53

like a personality. You see that white

42:55

silver head and you're like, you

42:58

are that girl? Yeah that's

43:00

yeah, they are so Romeo and Juliet

43:02

does that. So

43:05

you're a beast freak. Yeah I liked

43:08

I like, did you guys? Like?

43:09

I mean, now you're getting coffee, beast, so now maybe

43:11

you can't speak, we can still talk about our Okay,

43:13

okay, great did you like Great Gatsby?

43:16

I didn't see it.

43:17

You didn't see it? Oh thank god?

43:18

So you don't say I liked it.

43:20

I liked it, but a lot of people, like you

43:22

should have seen it.

43:23

I thought he was

43:25

great.

43:26

Harry. Harry was so good.

43:28

Yeah, who's the time you canon in that It was

43:30

Toby Maguire. No, no, it

43:32

was no, no, no, he was.

43:34

He was no, no, he was sorry.

43:37

Sorry, sorry, I didn't see Okay,

43:40

look it up, but

43:43

I didn't say.

43:46

Oh god, I want to say, I

43:48

want to see.

43:49

I was going to say yes.

43:51

But I thought I was wrong.

43:52

Oh my god, Elizabeth, Wow,

43:54

yeah, Oh

43:57

my god.

43:57

Yes, it had a great cast.

44:00

Yes, oh

44:03

my god. Honestly, do you like Hanna?

44:05

I do. I recently got into Alanna and now

44:07

it's a large part of my personality.

44:10

But you never were before.

44:11

Know what's funny is we were saying that we think

44:14

that the millennial generation either

44:16

really fucking gets her or really doesn't.

44:18

And what I blame is the SNL performance.

44:20

Oh yeah, because remember when she came out you're talking about

44:22

this, Yes, m.

44:23

Did that SNL performance, and it kind of was like I

44:26

was really following SNL at the time,

44:29

like obsessed, and I remember the narrative

44:31

wasn't great about

44:33

that, and then christ and we came out and did that wag

44:35

end update character and like thatthrope to be

44:38

like to defend her.

44:38

Let's just like Nile, let's

44:41

just cool down, Like this is crazy. Everyone's

44:43

losing their minds over this woman. Yeah, in

44:45

a weird way.

44:46

But in that regard, like the conversation

44:48

was so about something else that wasn't her music. And I also

44:50

don't think my taste was like refined,

44:52

not that it necessarily is now, but I

44:54

can listen to her music now and like really

44:56

appreciate how incredible the songwriting

44:59

is, both yeah and melodically,

45:01

and also when you look at the past ten fifteen

45:03

years, like just how much

45:05

she shaped the sound of all these girls, because

45:08

it's almost the same impact

45:11

that like the style of saying Mariah

45:13

and Whitney and Selene had on, like Christina

45:15

Aguilera and like Disciples

45:17

in that regard, it's happening again

45:19

now with like Alna Delray into like Billie

45:22

Eilish and Camila Cabello and like you know

45:24

you just Taylor Swift, like

45:26

you just and they're not shy either about saying

45:29

she's mother.

45:30

Yeah.

45:30

In my coffee shop in La, the

45:33

girls the girls love Lana, and I told

45:35

them Taylor, and

45:38

the one girl goes, wait, I

45:41

love Lana gen Z

45:43

wait, I love Lana, And then I

45:45

go, you love her. She goes, she's my mother.

45:48

Wide I directly, she's my mother.

45:52

It was very good. That's so funny.

45:54

It's so funny all the little isms

45:57

from gen Z. Because I have three younger Siblings's

46:00

times I feel so old because I'm like, that's so funny.

46:02

How you do that and they're like, oh, this is like

46:04

a thing we all do. Yeah that I

46:06

thought they like made up.

46:07

You have to start doing that.

46:09

I have you have just show when you think

46:11

something is funny, just like, oh it's

46:13

so cool. Old I can't.

46:15

I'm so old.

46:16

Sometimes I do the hair behind the ear and I'm

46:18

like, shut up, you're thirty.

46:20

Well it's a little yeah. Oh I've

46:22

been doing that since a young age. And I have nothing here.

46:24

We're just gay.

46:25

You are the youth. You are the youth.

46:27

We're sitting you are the youth.

46:29

We're too wizard gay men in their

46:31

mid thirties and we're telling you you are a young

46:33

child.

46:34

You turn thirty and I had a rush of

46:36

jealousy. Really no, not really. I actually

46:39

thinks all the same age once you hit

46:41

thirty and like all the same you were all the same age.

46:43

And also it kind of gets better.

46:46

You couldn't pay me to be in my twenties again, you fuck

46:49

no, no, fuck no, but you really I think you

46:51

really provoked thought within me when you talk

46:53

about turning thirty and have it all where

46:55

it's like, is the life

46:57

not to get too existential, but like, is this the

46:59

life that like we envisioned for ourselves, you know what I

47:01

mean? Yeah.

47:02

I love the metaphor of like being on a freeway

47:05

and like you're in one lane that's backed up, and

47:07

then you switch to the other and then you get to switch back to

47:09

the other.

47:09

Like that's what it feels like.

47:11

Yeah, And I feel like maybe

47:13

I've been in the same lane too long career

47:15

wise, right where I'm like.

47:17

You feel that way, Well, I'm like I don't

47:19

have breaking quit.

47:22

Yeah, this is where this is where I now.

47:24

Get to one email from basle and

47:27

quit as.

47:28

We can blame your special yes, exactly

47:30

the stuff that you said made him quit.

47:33

Do you feel that way though? I've been in

47:35

comedy for too long.

47:36

No, not comedy.

47:37

I've just been like it's just been like and

47:39

I'm super I'm so lucky. This

47:41

is constantly what the theme is in therapy of like,

47:44

yeah, like I don't know

47:46

how to like operate outside of this system.

47:48

You know what I mean? Yeah?

47:49

Do you feel like that?

47:50

Matt? Honestly, I'm lucky in that

47:53

I have a lot of different aspects

47:55

to like what make up.

47:58

I'm really lucky that I just have so many.

48:01

I can sing really well it's just there's

48:03

a lot that there's a lot of tools

48:05

in my tool belt, whereas you guys have like

48:07

a wrench, and that's it.

48:09

I was trying.

48:11

I can't say it, but I should say say

48:13

it for you.

48:14

I don't ever get bored because I feel

48:16

like I don't have a steady job,

48:19

like actually a majority of things I've done have

48:21

only gone one season. And I try not to take anything

48:23

personally because I'm such a small part of everything.

48:26

But in that regard, I always feel like I'm always learning,

48:29

you know what I mean like, and I feel

48:31

like I wouldn't have traded anything

48:34

in my career so far, even though there

48:36

have been times where I felt

48:38

like when I compare myself to you,

48:41

which just happens when you're in like a very

48:43

close relationship with someone and you grow. At the

48:45

same time, I feel like, you

48:48

know, what would it be like to have a job

48:50

all the time that that constantly

48:53

demanded so much of my energy? And

48:56

I think it will be twofold one. I think it makes

48:58

you into like a machine. I I think

49:00

like I have seen like you've always been

49:02

sharp and great, but like just the way that

49:04

you prepare now, the way that you're on top of

49:06

things, you're confidence as a performer.

49:08

I think that the listeners Matt's talking to Bohen yeah,

49:11

not me. I just can't say, Eyeline. I just want

49:13

to make sure they know.

49:14

But it's the same with you too, though, because when I one

49:16

hundred and thirty shows in a year, yeah,

49:18

and go out and doing that, like you become like

49:21

a machine.

49:22

And I feel like my.

49:24

Experience in the industry and with my

49:26

art is different because I have like

49:29

a lot going on, and I think it's just it's,

49:31

honestly two experiences that I think make

49:34

us very uh compatible honestly

49:36

as comedy partners because we

49:38

look at things really differently but have a really similar

49:40

sensibility. That's just thinking about us

49:42

together. But as an individual, like

49:45

I never beat myself up about like not getting

49:47

this or not having booked that or whatever,

49:50

because again maybe that's thirties too.

49:52

Yeah, you know what I mean, it's like, what's the point.

49:54

Yeah, I mean, I'll say I really relate

49:56

to what you were saying about feeling like you were in the same

49:58

lane for a long time too, because

50:01

that's part of why I took the job at after minute, it's honestly

50:03

One of the main reasons I took the job is that I

50:05

was doing my dream job, which was

50:08

touring theaters doing stand up and

50:10

I was starting to feel like, oh

50:13

am I going to get stunted if I'm just

50:15

going out in front of audiences that paid

50:17

to see me, want to see me like me already,

50:19

and I'm touring with the same two people

50:22

who are like my tour manager and my one

50:24

of my best friends. Like, how am

50:26

I going to keep growing as a person if I'm

50:28

just doing whatever I want all day and

50:31

then going out to applause at night

50:33

and then I come home and I recover for two days,

50:35

and then I go back out there. Like I loved being

50:37

on the road and I didn't like being home, and I'm

50:39

like, that's not healthy. So I

50:41

took this job because I thought I need to

50:44

have a job. What you're saying of going

50:46

what would I be like with a job? What would

50:48

I be like with that structure? What would I be like with

50:50

somebody saying you have to go do this,

50:52

Like you have to go to this dinner, you

50:54

have to go to this luncheon. And it

50:57

has been very strained

51:00

and at times annoying. Yeah, but

51:02

every time I get annoyed by those

51:04

asks that aren't really ask their demands from

51:08

a network, I go, oh, but

51:10

this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted

51:12

to be a part of a team

51:14

and a larger machine and know

51:17

what it feels like to have

51:19

some things outside of my control, because otherwise,

51:22

how am I supposed to keep developing

51:24

and maturing as a human being without

51:26

just going on stage every year and still

51:29

talking like I'm twenty three, right?

51:31

You know? I think that all that's important

51:34

is that you feel challenged and good

51:36

about what you do, you know what I mean, it's like, And the

51:39

second it starts to feel like that's

51:41

not true anymore, I feel like I would

51:43

just get nervous because it would mean that I was becoming

51:45

less sharp and good at what I was doing.

51:48

So it's less like anyone could

51:50

like you could find something that you love doing and just do

51:52

it, do it, do it, do it, do it, but like it

51:54

will end, and then where will you be? You

51:56

know what I mean? Like, so it's like great to participate

51:59

in as many things as possible.

52:00

I think totally, Yeah,

52:11

would you act?

52:13

You're a very good actor? That was where I

52:15

thought you were going when I first saw you, I'll be honest,

52:17

I was like, I can see her leading a sitcom.

52:20

That's so nice. Well, I never wanted to do a sitcom.

52:22

I don't really like from

52:25

what I hear from friends of mine, I don't like a

52:27

TV schedule, like it just seems

52:29

kind of like a nightmare. I like the

52:31

idea of a movie because it is there's a beginning and

52:34

end, you know, it's not just like year round

52:36

you're doing these crazy days. But again,

52:38

i'd like stand up so much, and I like doing this show

52:40

so much now that if I was going to

52:42

act in something, it would have to be something I was really excited

52:45

about or something I wrote, which is, as

52:47

you know, what we've been doing for years, like me and my

52:49

writing partner Taylor Tetro have like

52:51

written scripts and sold them and that's

52:55

been so great because even if things don't get made, which nothing

52:57

ever does, right, but when things

52:59

at least get sold, you get the validation. And

53:02

working with her is so rewarding and I feel

53:04

like I learn a lot.

53:04

So yeah, you know, and.

53:06

Also a lot of times, like those things

53:08

that percolate from way back do come

53:10

back when like you have moments like this and

53:12

like, now you've really hit astride.

53:14

It's like you know, you never know.

53:16

So that's yeah.

53:18

And look, when I was auditioning

53:20

for JFL, I don't know if you

53:22

had this experience, but every

53:24

time I auditioned for it,

53:26

whoever was hosting was somebody who had already done

53:28

it, and they were like, don't expect

53:30

a deal, Like it's not like that anymore.

53:32

They're like, it's over.

53:33

And when I got New Faces, I did get a sitcom

53:36

deal and like developed

53:38

that and sold it and it didn't get made obviously,

53:40

which thank god it didn't because it allowed me

53:42

to go on the road and then eventually do

53:44

the special that was Quarterlife Crisis.

53:45

Yeah.

53:46

So yeah, it's one of those things where I

53:48

feel honestly terrible for

53:50

actors. I think it seems terrible.

53:54

Audition constantly just.

53:55

Acting would drive me.

53:56

Not if that was my only thing. I

53:59

my hackes off the people that put themselves out there again

54:01

and again and again, and then those are so frequent.

54:04

Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm like nerves

54:07

of steel.

54:08

To do totally totally.

54:09

But I wondered, did they ask you to

54:11

host the Golden Globes?

54:13

No, they didn't have no no, no, I'm not no.

54:15

See I think they would you do

54:17

it?

54:18

I don't know.

54:19

I think they made a huge mistake and not asking Oh

54:21

no.

54:21

I'm not famous enough for that.

54:22

Yep, I'm not.

54:23

Well, you have to be well known. I mean Joe

54:26

koy.

54:26

Sells

54:29

and you felt that room going like

54:31

it's crazy that this business

54:33

does not respect stand up the way

54:36

it respects movies and TV. Of course,

54:38

yeah, I felt the shift getting this show, the

54:40

sort of congrats and attention I got, and I'm.

54:42

Like, where was this When I was Yeah, I

54:44

was like, you know, we.

54:45

Make more money on the road, right, do you guys

54:47

know that? Like it was so

54:50

I don't know. I don't think that I would be the

54:52

right person to do that with if

54:55

nobody in that room knew who I was, because they'd be like

54:57

what.

54:58

Well, I feel like you just get around that though by

55:00

then introing up top and being like, hey,

55:02

you might not know who I am. I host a fucking late night

55:04

show on this network. But like when

55:06

you came out with Stephen and did a bit, I was like the

55:08

Emmys. For the Emmys, I was like, oh, there's the host

55:11

was because I just felt like because

55:13

daddy via com we you sort of speak the same language.

55:16

That would have been an amazing way to launch this show

55:18

too.

55:18

But also whatever I don't know, I feel like they're

55:20

bringing up on stage at late show. Was

55:23

that that was such a great I felt

55:25

this like power, this energy, whatever,

55:28

but like it was so cool the

55:30

times that he would bring you on to like talk

55:33

about the show, it felt

55:35

like a great torch pasting

55:37

annointment.

55:38

Whatever.

55:39

I hate this it is and he's amazing.

55:41

Yeah, yeah, I mean he was another reason I wanted to do

55:43

it, because everybody loves working with and for him.

55:45

Yeah, And I mean him and Conan have

55:47

this in common I've talked about before, is like they're

55:50

just it just seems as if they're always on,

55:53

They're always hilarious, They're always

55:55

so warm and friendly in a way

55:57

that just does not come naturally to me. And I'm

55:59

so impressed by I mean, yeah,

56:02

you like touch your heart like that hit you.

56:03

Do you feel that way?

56:04

I feel that way, like, oh, I'm not I'm not

56:06

the version of myself that like any given

56:09

person would think I am. And I

56:11

don't feel like you talk about your social.

56:13

Anxiety a lot.

56:13

I feel like you are just kind

56:15

of like honestly who you are, and it is just like

56:18

a different sort of like analog

56:20

of like your stage persona and which is not.

56:22

Good for show business.

56:23

You should be better than what I am.

56:26

Like, do you feel like you're good at being

56:28

famous?

56:29

No, you don't.

56:30

Yeah, Mats seems like Matt's.

56:31

Good at it. Matt's good at it.

56:32

Yeah, you seem uncomfortable in

56:34

a way that makes me adore you so much, and

56:37

I relate to more, Like I respect

56:39

that Matt's really good at it, and I can't

56:41

relate to it.

56:43

I can't relate to it.

56:43

I think I'm I think I'm just a true

56:46

extrovert. Yeah, I think I'm just a true

56:48

extrovert. And I enjoy the

56:51

part which is like talking

56:53

about the work, and I like entertaining.

56:55

In that way.

56:56

Yeah, but I've noticed that about

56:58

myself too it And sometimes I'm like, you're so annoying

57:00

that because like

57:03

we'll get requests together and then we'll be like

57:05

I'd like to sit down that day, and

57:07

I'm like, yeah, I don't want to sit down

57:10

run around in a circle. I want to drink soda.

57:13

I think it is like it is like a thing that forms

57:15

you as a I don't know what where to trace it back

57:17

from. But I've always had a lot of fucking

57:20

energy, and sometimes I feel

57:22

like I give too much

57:24

of it up and then later I'm really

57:27

tired. Yeah, and I don't notice I'm

57:29

doing it until later. And

57:31

I think you don't have to be in the entertainment industry to understand

57:33

this. Like sometimes it's like you

57:36

just give a lot socially and

57:38

professionally to the point where later you're

57:40

like, wait.

57:40

Where am I right?

57:42

And it gets a little confusing

57:45

sometimes because like I'm

57:47

dating a lot more now, and

57:49

sometimes it feels like where

57:51

does the performance of the me end?

57:54

And where am I actually dropping in and listening?

57:57

Like I felt bad. But a few weeks

57:59

ago, I was out with some buddy and I realized like

58:02

I hadn't been listening to what they were saying, because

58:04

I think I was thinking about what

58:06

I had said and how it had gone over. And

58:09

I was.

58:10

Like, yeah,

58:12

because I I where's the lights coming

58:14

from the bar?

58:15

You know, when you have to get good at knowing that dating

58:17

isn't like a competition or a game that you can win.

58:20

It's like, I feel like I learned that and then

58:23

I forgot it, and so I was just like, let's

58:26

reset, like let's let's talk to

58:28

a person.

58:28

You're not performing here today.

58:30

But when you do it all the time, it

58:33

can get a little confusing and you bringing up

58:35

your therapy.

58:35

This is what my therapy is about.

58:37

It is like actually just dropping in and taking a

58:39

breath and not having to

58:41

be plugged in and excited

58:44

all the time. Like not everything has to be

58:46

a consumed thing or like a give

58:49

thing. It's like you can just sit, Like

58:51

meditating is not something I understand, but

58:54

I do you do that?

58:55

I can't because I'm anxious, right, not because I'm

58:57

like i want a soda, Like I'm just

59:00

scared.

59:01

So we got to hear you drown out the noise.

59:03

But that's how my anxiety manifest

59:05

that I do too much. Totally

59:07

different.

59:08

Was it on SETH that you were talking about how

59:10

you got invited to Was

59:13

it a party at Taylor Swifts And You're like it was a Sunday

59:16

and I needed to sleep And

59:18

I was like, that

59:20

is my guy, That's exactly how I

59:23

feel like. Especially starting the show, they were

59:25

like, do you wanna present to the Grammys

59:27

And I was like, no, you

59:30

have to, and then I got stripped so I couldn't.

59:32

But I

59:34

literally did get stressed.

59:35

I truly did.

59:37

But like there is so much anxiety

59:40

and panic that will happen

59:42

for me in preparing for things like

59:45

this, no matter how big the opportunity, that it

59:47

will ruin the opportunity.

59:49

And it's the preparation on for the specials,

59:51

like the road for you that that's.

59:53

Easier that the road is prep

59:56

specials. Yeah, so like the process is

59:58

but like these like big

1:00:00

event I'm like, I don't know how to exact,

1:00:02

Like I don't know how to do this, and I'm not

1:00:04

comfortable, and it also sort

1:00:07

of like it's so disenchanting.

1:00:09

I'm like, it'll emmies for me if I have

1:00:11

to stand in that line and take

1:00:13

a picture of that.

1:00:14

I don't like the social part

1:00:16

of it with other people that are there

1:00:19

really intimidates me. What

1:00:21

I think I like is the going

1:00:23

and the doing of the thing. Like I like

1:00:25

going and like doing a bit, or I like going

1:00:28

and like when I'm on seth

1:00:30

or like any of these late night things like whatever. I

1:00:32

love going and doing the show. But

1:00:35

sometimes it's like I remember last time I was

1:00:37

on Seth Myers. I had to do like a social media bit

1:00:39

with Jennifer Hudson and I had

1:00:41

to go into her dressing room and be like, Hi,

1:00:43

I'm Matt.

1:00:44

You mean a lot to me.

1:00:45

I've been a fan of yours for a long time while

1:00:47

her team sort of sat there and we're like oh,

1:00:49

and like she's so chill that

1:00:52

I started to feel myself going yeah,

1:00:55

and I was like, relax, relax.

1:00:57

That part drives me nuts.

1:00:59

Yes, but the doing of the thing, yeah,

1:01:01

it's fine. But standing there and like when

1:01:03

I found out that's what a red carpet is a

1:01:06

lot of standing and yes

1:01:08

to see if anyone wants to talk to you on the line, and

1:01:10

maybe they don't.

1:01:11

Yes, Like it's like oof, yeah,

1:01:13

but then are we saying it?

1:01:14

Like Colbert and Conan are like this rare

1:01:16

breed of like comedian and performer that like

1:01:19

that's just who they are.

1:01:20

I think.

1:01:20

So, I mean that's the impression I've gotten.

1:01:23

They're the two that I've spent the most time with. I mean,

1:01:25

I've done Seth and he came in and was so

1:01:27

lovely before it, like you seem so

1:01:29

great, Like he was so great on your show, so

1:01:32

I think some people are just like

1:01:34

like you met, just wired for it, and it's

1:01:36

like hard to accept

1:01:38

that you can get good at it, but it's

1:01:40

still not going to become like I'm

1:01:42

never going to have it in my DNA.

1:01:45

Like that, right, so the way

1:01:47

you had like stand up and yes, yeah.

1:01:49

That's where I feel like myself on stage, even

1:01:51

if I'm nervous for a show or a taping or whatever,

1:01:54

like that's who I feel

1:01:56

like I am inside, But on carpets

1:01:59

or whatever, all I'm like, who does

1:02:01

anyone need a drink?

1:02:02

Like? Should I be working this event? Like I just

1:02:04

can't.

1:02:05

Did you ever think about doing an Alvira esque

1:02:07

character on the Red carpets?

1:02:09

Sort of just going as a

1:02:11

another you mistress

1:02:14

of the night? Maybe you could do that.

1:02:15

That would be such a hard turn for me.

1:02:18

I think you would.

1:02:19

Thank you so you think.

1:02:23

This is an amazing compliment that I'm doing.

1:02:25

Thank you so much. Not everyone has

1:02:27

a face for wigs. You do?

1:02:29

No, I don't.

1:02:30

I don't you know you are? You

1:02:32

know who has a face for wiggs is Sarah Sherman. She transforms

1:02:36

yeah like you, She's on SNL. You all faces?

1:02:40

We don't you do? Oh no,

1:02:42

no, no, no, no, we're not having a discussion. I

1:02:46

look the same, and I have so many beautiful

1:02:49

discussions with the departments there room, Like I think

1:02:51

this character should not have glasses because then it looks

1:02:54

too much like me. Like it's like it comes that

1:02:56

you became that Iceberg. I was

1:02:58

like, you love that he was.

1:03:01

You know what's very powerful going in a

1:03:03

mustache, Going in a thick.

1:03:05

Mustache is very powerful.

1:03:07

And you see him begin

1:03:09

to think about topping.

1:03:12

Yeah, you see the neurons

1:03:15

that you see that my follicles

1:03:17

don't grow. I have a question about Sorry,

1:03:20

such a hard turn birth

1:03:22

order. This new eldest daughter syndrome thing

1:03:24

is yeah, a lot

1:03:26

of yes.

1:03:27

Yes, elderldest daughter, and it's all true.

1:03:29

What's this?

1:03:30

Okay?

1:03:30

So I think the Times did this whole piece about eldest

1:03:33

daughter syndrome.

1:03:33

Is it syndrome or is it I.

1:03:35

Think it's syndrome, yes, and

1:03:39

the Times Yah, just me, It's just

1:03:41

me and my sister.

1:03:42

I have eldest daughter energy

1:03:45

work. Yes,

1:03:50

So what is this? What do they say about these girls?

1:03:52

You're absorbing a lot of this becase, I'm sure a lot of being directed

1:03:54

it you.

1:03:54

A lot of guilt, a lot of like taking on

1:03:57

responsibility, like a lot of feeling

1:03:59

like you have to parent your

1:04:01

younger siblings and they're like fuck off, Like,

1:04:04

which is so fair? I saw I

1:04:06

saw a TikTok of a younger sister

1:04:09

who was like something happened

1:04:11

where when I was a teenager, when I was younger,

1:04:13

I really like worshiped my older sister and

1:04:15

now it like kind of shifted where like she

1:04:17

wants to be my friend and I'm kind of like okay,

1:04:20

which is what I felt with my youngest sister.

1:04:22

Soft the shift, Yeah, where

1:04:24

for a while I was like, why

1:04:26

is she not calling me back? And like she's always

1:04:29

like yeah, when I was a kid, I wanted to be and I'm like where's

1:04:31

that?

1:04:32

Like where did that go?

1:04:33

And then I think she got really smart and was

1:04:35

like, oh you're trying. What does she do? Yeah, she's

1:04:37

in grad school right now.

1:04:38

She's very smart. Yeah yeah, so I'm like,

1:04:41

well, how can I compete with that?

1:04:42

I'm a rat.

1:04:43

Comedian applauded

1:04:46

for reading. You

1:04:48

read a great thing.

1:04:50

You're read

1:04:53

that shift, thank you so much.

1:04:55

I mean we would get pulled into things, remember

1:04:57

like seriously TV ri ip like I

1:05:00

go in for seriously TV stuff sometimes and it

1:05:02

was a lot of it was reading off like you would like set, you would

1:05:04

literally write your own thing and send it to them, and

1:05:06

your own words would be un prompt and I would still

1:05:08

fuck up.

1:05:09

It's so unfair that

1:05:11

that is like something

1:05:14

that you kind of have to be good at to do that stuff,

1:05:16

because some people are the funniest people in the world

1:05:18

and they're just not quick readers, right, you

1:05:20

know what I mean, Or they're just not like people who can like

1:05:22

correct on the fly like that. Like, yeah,

1:05:24

I would imagine that. You see that all the time at like Table

1:05:26

Express and Noel, like certain actors coming

1:05:29

in and you it's not for everyone like

1:05:31

to be able to do that and like not

1:05:33

only to do it correctly, but also

1:05:35

to do.

1:05:36

It in a compelling and funny way.

1:05:38

Yeah, it's tough.

1:05:39

I mean again on becoming

1:05:42

disenchanted with the whole entertainment industry

1:05:45

as you get older. I think at

1:05:47

least this was how it was when I was younger. You're

1:05:49

kind of like, I'm gonna be a legend, and I'm gonna work

1:05:51

really hard and I'm gonna sleep on the floor on the airport

1:05:53

at five am, and I'm gonna grind and do it.

1:05:56

And then as you get older, you're like, there's so many

1:05:58

talented people, right, and I can say, go

1:06:00

fifteen who deserve what I have more than

1:06:02

I do.

1:06:03

Or just as much.

1:06:04

That feeling when you're younger, where you're like destined

1:06:06

for more, you feel special, it just like goes

1:06:09

away, I think, or it has

1:06:11

for me where I'm just always like which maybe

1:06:14

good because it's replaced by gratitude,

1:06:16

but I'm.

1:06:16

Sure humility, gratitude, all those things that should

1:06:18

be there.

1:06:19

So many stars have to align for a person

1:06:21

to be successful in this very unfair

1:06:23

business, Like you have to be

1:06:25

so many different things, like you have

1:06:27

to be funny and smart

1:06:30

and warm to people. I mean not

1:06:32

always, but yeah, you have to have a bunch

1:06:34

of things going for you and.

1:06:35

Luck, yeah, of course, and also the

1:06:37

leadership quality which comes when your name

1:06:40

is on the title. I know you're saying, like,

1:06:42

oh, it has nothing to do with me, it has nothing to do with

1:06:44

you, but it does because like you

1:06:47

know, that is your name, and that is your

1:06:49

you are the engine of the show,

1:06:51

and so like it is really

1:06:53

great. I'm super excited that it's

1:06:55

like doing as well as it is, Like I

1:06:57

was saying, like, not only is it doing, but

1:07:00

also like your fans are very engaged

1:07:02

online, like you have girls collapsing

1:07:04

in coffee shops like the

1:07:06

dream, I mean the Dream, And so I

1:07:09

don't know. I'm just like, give yourself all the

1:07:11

credit in the world and keep shooting for the fucking

1:07:13

star so much deserves it as much as

1:07:15

you.

1:07:16

You know, you're right, I single handedly, I

1:07:18

am responsible for any and all success on

1:07:20

the show, and anything wrong with it isn't my fault.

1:07:22

You heard her first, but honestly,

1:07:25

I do hope you hold on to some like

1:07:27

one inch tall version of like

1:07:29

that younger person in you

1:07:31

that was like I'm going to be a legend or I will be one.

1:07:34

Like what you've done is really remarkable,

1:07:36

I think, and I think like humility,

1:07:38

gratitude great, but also like there's

1:07:40

something about that little guy that I think is

1:07:42

helpful and.

1:07:43

You need to tap into it, you know, yeah,

1:07:45

when you're feeling like an impostor totally.

1:07:47

I was watching the specials O Gelie, as

1:07:49

Matt said, but I also like rewatched them this weekend

1:07:52

and I was.

1:07:52

Just like, God, she's really fucking

1:07:54

good.

1:07:56

She's so good, And like I think you are

1:07:59

in this space you are like a comedians

1:08:01

comedian and then you also play to like

1:08:03

everybody, and that's like such

1:08:05

a unicorn in these days.

1:08:06

I think that's really nice. I mean, you never really know if

1:08:09

you're a comedians comedian because you're like, doesn't

1:08:11

everyone hate everything?

1:08:12

Uh huh.

1:08:12

You just kind of have to go like, I bet everyone hates

1:08:15

me, and it's fine, Like you don't really ever know.

1:08:17

You never know, well, you know what's funny.

1:08:19

Like I feel like I went from like

1:08:21

like we talk about the laughing and then the acknowledging

1:08:23

and then back to the laughing. I think that means

1:08:25

I like sort of tried to divest

1:08:28

from like my peers opinion

1:08:31

of me because I know that if it

1:08:33

were to be negative, that would really hurt

1:08:35

me. And I think that that's something

1:08:37

like maybe that's another element of like growing

1:08:40

up a little bit.

1:08:40

Is it's just like I'm not gonna put.

1:08:42

Myself in a position to be hurt

1:08:44

like that, and if like someone like you

1:08:46

guys like didn't think I was worth myself,

1:08:48

that would really hurt Meanwhile, like I

1:08:51

can go out there and like the audience might not

1:08:53

get something, and I'm like, I'm gonna roll with you now,

1:08:55

But if it were other comedians, I think that would hurt

1:08:57

Yeah, because we know we've been in those

1:09:00

environments where it's like we were all like fucking going

1:09:02

for something like JFL. We were all like pour

1:09:05

together, we were all getting paid in two drinks

1:09:07

or two diet cokes because you didn't drink

1:09:09

till last week, I think. But

1:09:12

you know, it's just like so now, it's just like I do

1:09:14

what I do because it makes me happy

1:09:16

and it makes people happy, and it would drive

1:09:19

me fucking nuts if it didn't make people.

1:09:20

I respect it, Yes, which about you have to

1:09:22

pick like three people you respect and talk

1:09:24

to it all and talk to it all, and

1:09:26

those are the people

1:09:28

you care about and everyone else you're like, yeah, but I also

1:09:31

like when people don't like me, I'm

1:09:33

like, I get it, Like I could argue.

1:09:35

That side totally.

1:09:36

All their complaints are actually my complaints

1:09:38

to annoying talk too much,

1:09:41

not that smart. Yeah has

1:09:44

an underbyte, right, I

1:09:46

was gonna say.

1:09:48

That's me I'm putting there, it's

1:10:00

I don't think so, honey.

1:10:01

Yes, this is really this segment

1:10:03

where we hang our hat here at the podcasting.

1:10:05

This is it. I mean, this is what's made us

1:10:07

really timeless, like Shakespeare and

1:10:10

h B and Besz. This

1:10:13

is one minute to rants against something in culture that's

1:10:15

getting to us. And I have something as of last

1:10:17

night. Matt Rogers is here. I don't think any

1:10:19

times starts down. I don't think so honey the olive garden.

1:10:22

Okay.

1:10:22

There is such a thing as being too good to be true.

1:10:24

And there are three things soup, salad, and bread

1:10:26

sticks. Okay, let me disclaimer this.

1:10:28

This is not an I don't think so honey to you as an institution.

1:10:31

It's an I don't think money really to me and my self control

1:10:33

unlimited truly does mean unlimited. And

1:10:35

when you have one bite of that bread, that salty fucking

1:10:38

bread, and you dip it in that Zoopa tuscano,

1:10:40

which is my soup of choice, not

1:10:42

to disrespect any of the other soups, I would definitely

1:10:45

try it in some minute drunk, but

1:10:48

I cannot stop myself. This salad

1:10:50

one of the world's greatest salad. And then I have to say

1:10:53

something. You're already jacked up full of soup

1:10:55

ss B. And then you got your

1:10:57

tour of Italy. Okay, because you're like, why

1:10:59

not, I'm not gonna be full seconds

1:11:02

into the meal. I don't feel

1:11:05

good to date, and it's because

1:11:07

not because of Olive Garden, because of me,

1:11:09

because of my choices. It does

1:11:12

it feel like a little bit of a betrayal that they would do this

1:11:14

to me after I had my nineteenth and

1:11:16

twentieth birthdays, both two

1:11:18

years in a row, at the Time Square Olive Garden

1:11:20

where I went last night. Yes, it does well. I keep

1:11:22

coming back. Yes, I do think so hard. And that's

1:11:24

one minute. I'm so

1:11:27

chalk full of food right now at this moment,

1:11:29

like I'm bursting. I'm gonna start sweating the

1:11:31

bread that moved you to go. I was on

1:11:33

a date last night and you won't go went to a time

1:11:37

So we had done this fun, stupid

1:11:39

thing where we're like, we're gonna go to Dave

1:11:41

and Busters and then go to the Times Square Garden.

1:11:44

Like I said, I'm out there dating, We're having fun,

1:11:47

and I felt like this would be a way to not

1:11:49

have it center around like alcohol.

1:11:52

Yeah, which is I think it around

1:11:54

bread? Something

1:11:56

else that's slowing me down today, carbs.

1:11:58

Yeah, So I hangover.

1:12:00

You know.

1:12:00

Sorry, they don't tell you about that. No, I don't

1:12:02

look up to and I was like, whoa, I guess I.

1:12:04

Drank too much.

1:12:05

I had one beer and five thousand

1:12:08

bread stick. Yeah, they should cut That's what happened. There

1:12:10

should be there should be a breadstick bartender

1:12:12

there. Really, there should be someone be like, hey,

1:12:14

man, are you okay? Because

1:12:17

you do get kind of drunk. I mean like you're

1:12:19

like on that bread. Yeah,

1:12:22

bread, let's get it. I don't

1:12:24

you know what's funny? Like I had so much

1:12:26

bread and like a whole bulls a whole

1:12:29

bull of hellad. And usually it's

1:12:31

like, what's so great about soup salad? Breadsticks?

1:12:33

Un limited?

1:12:33

Is the soup? Because I'm a souper

1:12:36

queen, Like I love soup, but it

1:12:38

gets so amazing. I think it's one of the great

1:12:40

inventions. Well, Bowen likes more stew

1:12:42

I I love.

1:12:44

He can tell you about it, Okay, he

1:12:47

loves STUWT. Yeah, stu is just

1:12:49

soup with something to say.

1:12:50

You know, that's real culture. Woman

1:12:53

numbers are again twenty five something

1:12:56

to say amazing.

1:12:58

Wow. Yeah, so your merch

1:13:00

should say soup queen on it. I mean and

1:13:03

it already and it already changes.

1:13:05

I'm changing it.

1:13:06

We had what was it? We've came up with a good merch

1:13:08

that they don't talk to me on vulnerable or something.

1:13:11

Oh, I remember that. That's great. We're coming

1:13:13

up with good merch all the time. And we never heard

1:13:17

I.

1:13:17

Would wear don't talk to me vulnerable?

1:13:19

So fast? You fast?

1:13:21

You'd wear it? Well.

1:13:22

My younger sibling made me a sweatshirt

1:13:24

once that maybe it was something they

1:13:27

said, maybe something I said that said like

1:13:30

I'm great but unavailable. Wow.

1:13:33

Yeah, but yeah, that's

1:13:35

good.

1:13:35

It text for later but also says what's

1:13:38

yes, stay away? Yes, Oh

1:13:40

I love it? Bonyang, you're ready for I don't

1:13:42

think honey ready? Okay, this

1:13:44

is bowen yang and he is

1:13:47

going to do I don't think so honey, starting.

1:13:49

Now, I don't think so honey. In New York Times is thirty six

1:13:51

questions to fall in love. Guess what they

1:13:53

don't work? Okay, I've

1:13:55

fallen out of love with individuals because

1:13:58

they went through the whole fucking charae of

1:14:00

like looking into my eyes reading

1:14:02

off these questions. One of them is if

1:14:04

you had the choice to be ninety years old

1:14:07

and have either the mind or body of

1:14:09

a thirty year old? Which one would it be? I

1:14:11

don't care how you answer that. I'm not gonna

1:14:13

like the answer. No, that's a weird fucking

1:14:16

question.

1:14:16

New York Times.

1:14:17

Hey, how about

1:14:20

ray lady, how about you try to put

1:14:22

strands on the games app? How about

1:14:24

you get the editor of Connections to make

1:14:26

some fucking sense for once? How

1:14:28

about you make spelling me not have a Q in

1:14:30

it on a Monday. It's really up,

1:14:33

New York Times. I could begin

1:14:36

to list off the gripes I have, but

1:14:38

let's start with the thirty six questions to fall

1:14:40

in love, because you are ruining a lot of

1:14:43

potentially mid dates and

1:14:45

making them intolerable.

1:14:47

And that is one minute you

1:14:49

get.

1:14:52

I will say that question that you talked about, that's

1:14:54

the easiest question to answer.

1:14:56

Body body, Yeah, who.

1:14:59

He doesn't I get that you said that. No,

1:15:01

No, it's not that I don't know. It's not

1:15:06

either way.

1:15:07

You hate that I bought into it at all.

1:15:08

I've fallen out of love with your tail.

1:15:10

Yeah, but can I tell you something. It's about starting

1:15:12

conversations. It's not about

1:15:15

being definitive. It's about starting conversations.

1:15:17

Like you ever played this

1:15:20

or that. Yeah, it's

1:15:22

a conversation starter. Yeah, I'm really that's

1:15:24

just this or that. It's just in the paper

1:15:26

of note right.

1:15:27

Well, one of them is like sum up your whole life

1:15:30

story in four minutes. You're like, this is so

1:15:32

sweaty h so like okay,

1:15:34

Like it is someone being like, let me

1:15:36

be fucking charming towards

1:15:39

you, and you're like stop, okay, but.

1:15:41

Can I just say those questions are not

1:15:43

for people with podcasts, you

1:15:45

know what I mean? Like, those are for regular

1:15:47

people, and the fact that you're even

1:15:49

trying to pass judgment on it

1:15:51

is not okay. Those

1:15:54

questions are for people who are not interesting on their own

1:15:56

and they need a template date God

1:16:00

right, I'm

1:16:03

just look, you probably have questions

1:16:05

that you want to ask everybody because you're

1:16:07

an interesting, talented person, eldest

1:16:11

daughter.

1:16:11

That's what I'm saying.

1:16:12

You're made of this stuff.

1:16:13

Yeah, but people have you like That's why I can't

1:16:15

watch dating reality shows. I'm like, I

1:16:17

don't want to watch regular

1:16:20

people struggle to know each other

1:16:22

with another. The

1:16:24

barrier like a literal

1:16:26

barrier. I watch Love is Blind a literal

1:16:29

barrier, making it even harder for you to connect.

1:16:31

It is painful to watch.

1:16:33

The Bachelor is the toughest for me because

1:16:35

it's like people who socialize

1:16:39

at a certain level, Like it's

1:16:43

just kind of like and I want

1:16:45

to think it's funny, but I really ultimately

1:16:47

just think it's boring.

1:16:48

Yeah, yeah, I just I can't

1:16:51

pretend to be Like

1:16:54

when two people are like you want kids, I

1:16:56

want kideah exactly, both

1:17:00

want to that's crazy, yeah, and then

1:17:02

everyone's fighting over the same guy because they want

1:17:04

to kids.

1:17:04

Like it just well, it all

1:17:07

boils down to I saw this person

1:17:09

and was the horniest for them. Yeah,

1:17:11

they are the one who wins, because guess

1:17:13

what, nothing really changes in two months.

1:17:15

You're still in a manic period, right. It

1:17:18

really is just like many of the show. It's

1:17:21

like we're gonna put people in an insane

1:17:23

situation with a camera in

1:17:25

their face and ask them to perform

1:17:28

constantly, and it's just like, of

1:17:30

course nothing works, get.

1:17:32

Them drunk, take their phone. It's

1:17:35

it's literally a it's

1:17:37

literally a manic episode, and no one

1:17:40

knows that because we're watching it like weeks

1:17:42

apart.

1:17:42

But like these people are cooped up for like

1:17:44

two and a half months, only talking to

1:17:46

each other and then guess what. The friends they make

1:17:49

one day are just gone. Yes, Like Eric

1:17:51

goes to talk to Rachel, he doesn't come

1:17:53

back and we've been hanging out for two

1:17:55

and a half months.

1:17:56

Oh, you're lying to your family? Where are you? Like?

1:17:59

Oh?

1:17:59

When they come out and they're.

1:18:00

Like, I'm engaged and they're like you said you

1:18:02

were doing like a sleep study.

1:18:04

What do they tell their loved one?

1:18:06

What if something happens, like, hey, hey

1:18:08

is this missus Eric?

1:18:09

Yeah?

1:18:09

Eric fell off a boat in Copenhagen.

1:18:12

Can you come?

1:18:12

I d the body? Oh dead by the way,

1:18:15

Yeah, you don't really survive that kind of thing,

1:18:17

no matter where it is.

1:18:19

We does ted know about this that you're not

1:18:21

a love is blind man?

1:18:22

We're no, no, no, I am.

1:18:24

I am the only one I've watched. That's the only

1:18:26

one I've watched. That is what I'm saying.

1:18:28

Yeah, I don't,

1:18:31

don't.

1:18:31

I had I had a lot with his mind. As I've talked about it in this podcast.

1:18:34

I'm like, I can't, I can't stick with it.

1:18:36

I can't watch any dating show. I cannot watch. That's

1:18:38

the Yeah, I did.

1:18:40

Watch like the Social Dilemma. Reality shows

1:18:42

like the Circle and stuff, or.

1:18:43

No, I don't watch this.

1:18:44

I did watch the Ultimatum, which was insane.

1:18:47

The Ultimatum was crazy all

1:18:49

the way through. Yeah.

1:18:50

So I've seen the one season of the Ultimatum, and

1:18:52

I've seen I think two seasons

1:18:54

of Love.

1:18:55

Gave it.

1:18:56

I gave it a fair shot.

1:18:57

Yeah, yeah, he did it.

1:18:59

I did it. I mean seeing two seasons

1:19:01

of anything, I can say I watched something.

1:19:03

If I watch four episodes.

1:19:04

Of it, Oh yeah, then I then I consider

1:19:06

myself a fan and an authority. Yeah, and

1:19:08

I come on here and I say, here's the definitive word

1:19:11

on this thing. I've seen an eighth of people,

1:19:13

and people listen.

1:19:14

And then if something is popular enough, do you watch four

1:19:16

episodes of it just to be a part of the conversation.

1:19:18

Yeah, four seems reasonable unless watching

1:19:20

it's gonna be a miserable experience for me. Unless

1:19:22

the genre I don't do scary and I don't do like

1:19:24

graphic. Right, Okay, I'm good with anything.

1:19:27

When people come on SNL and HOST, I

1:19:29

feel like you have to watch their.

1:19:30

Stuff, not as much anymore, because

1:19:32

now I'm gonna peel back the curtain. Lauren

1:19:35

doesn't like when they promote the thing too much. Oh

1:19:37

interesting, So it's like, oh, there's there might

1:19:39

not be a sketch about their project, right,

1:19:42

which unless it's cultural, unless

1:19:44

it's like Eyston, like I'm sure Gosling can do it.

1:19:46

I'm just kind of You think you're gonna shoot your shot

1:19:48

on a Challenger sketch this week?

1:19:50

Oh? Sure, something with the score, something

1:19:53

with the score that, sir.

1:19:55

I don't know how you're gonna make that funny, because the score was

1:19:57

perfect.

1:19:57

It's perfect.

1:19:58

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I am I thinking

1:20:00

I'm thinking of a sketch.

1:20:01

Okay, I can't say what it

1:20:03

is because Bowen says if I ever picture my sketch, they

1:20:06

can't use it, and I actually will likely

1:20:08

I could sue. I could sue.

1:20:12

I'm veryious. Speaking

1:20:16

of being on the edge, it's your turn to

1:20:18

do. I'm so scared. Okay, don't don't

1:20:20

be all right, this is Taylor Tomlinson' I don't

1:20:22

think so, honey. Her time starts now.

1:20:24

I don't think so, honey.

1:20:25

People who skip the museum gift

1:20:27

shop, Oh I'm sorry.

1:20:30

You go to one one museum

1:20:32

and on the way out you're like, oh what I forgot?

1:20:34

That was here, I start with the museum.

1:20:37

How else are you supposed to know what to pay

1:20:39

attention to once you're in the museum.

1:20:41

Okay, I don't want to look like a fucking idiot

1:20:44

standing in front of an unimportant piece

1:20:46

of art too long. I'm getting

1:20:48

teary eyed in front of a painting of a field

1:20:50

going, oh my god, what's this one called landscape?

1:20:53

By?

1:20:53

Who the fuck know? What

1:20:55

made the magnets? What made the postcards?

1:20:57

What can I take home with me? You think it's in

1:21:00

you to buy something from a museum gift shop.

1:21:02

You think you're better than a starry

1:21:04

Night umbrella?

1:21:05

You're fucking not.

1:21:07

I want to remember the time I saw

1:21:09

the Scream in person and was like, Wow,

1:21:12

I'm doing something.

1:21:13

Yeh, fucking culture. Yes, I want to bring

1:21:15

it home with me.

1:21:16

I want to put it on my refrigerator, bare minimum,

1:21:18

use it as a bookmark in a book I started

1:21:20

and didn't finish. I don't think so, honey, you were

1:21:22

not better than the museum gift shop.

1:21:24

And that is one minute. Also, if

1:21:26

you don't go to the museum gift shop and get something,

1:21:29

how are you gonna have too many shirts?

1:21:31

Yes? How are you gonna have too many shirts

1:21:33

if you didn't buy one at the museum. And it's

1:21:35

important to have too many. Yes.

1:21:37

The only other way you could have too many shirts is if you start

1:21:39

doing stand up and you get one from.

1:21:40

Every club you've ever performed.

1:21:42

And that's the only other way, and that takes years.

1:21:44

But if you're not a stand up and then what are you gonna put

1:21:46

on your coffee tables?

1:21:47

Go to the museum gift shop to buy the book?

1:21:49

Grow the fuck up?

1:21:50

Where was it that we went in Berlin?

1:21:53

We we went to that museum in Berlin. Remember

1:21:55

we didn't go to a museum. Oh, we went to a Berlin museum. I

1:21:58

forgot what it's called. But and answer them. We went to the rex mus

1:22:00

which, oh yeah, I love, and there is that I

1:22:02

bought my yellow shirt that I've never worn, you've

1:22:05

ever worn. I wouldn't have it taking

1:22:07

up.

1:22:07

Space if I hadn't gone to the gift shop. And

1:22:09

that's important. Yes, I need to see

1:22:12

what is the jigsaw huzzle? Yeah,

1:22:14

and then I'm gonna be like I know to go to

1:22:16

that. Yes, stairs, you'll miss the room if

1:22:19

it's too big.

1:22:20

The best museum I've ever been to is an Oslo

1:22:22

in Norway and it's I can't pronounce it,

1:22:25

but it's so good and there's so many

1:22:27

different types of things in there, and you

1:22:29

could absolutely miss something if you're not careful.

1:22:31

I went two days in a row because I miss stuff.

1:22:34

It's so smart to start with the shop because

1:22:36

then you've kind of outsmarted the layout in

1:22:38

the floor plant, you know what I mean, like the traffic pattern. You're

1:22:40

like, let me start where they don't want me to go

1:22:42

first.

1:22:42

Yeah.

1:22:43

I was talking to my sibling about this last night and they

1:22:45

go, it's like reading the study questions before

1:22:47

you read the chapter.

1:22:48

Yes, so you know what it is. You know

1:22:50

what always gets me? This is sort of my museum

1:22:53

is a theme park. Yes, I

1:22:55

get a mug, a coffee mug from every

1:22:58

riode.

1:22:58

I like, yeah, if I had a good time.

1:23:00

If I had an amazing time, which I often

1:23:02

do, especially with so we went. We do it

1:23:05

on the Jurassic Park right a long time ago.

1:23:07

So one of my favorite mugs I have and

1:23:09

I wouldn't have it if

1:23:11

I had it bought it.

1:23:13

Yes, that's exactly.

1:23:15

It's actually a really coaching number eight. I wouldn't

1:23:17

have it if I hadn't bought it. This

1:23:20

is an important part culture. It's a

1:23:22

capitalism consumer you know, like, this

1:23:24

is what this is all about.

1:23:25

I love that you two love theme parks because

1:23:27

that's another thing that people act like they're too good

1:23:30

for.

1:23:30

No, give me a theme

1:23:32

parks are so fun. They were built for your imagination,

1:23:36

dear steps.

1:23:36

In every day I

1:23:39

watch YouTube videos about the construction

1:23:42

of Epic Universe, which is the new

1:23:44

theme park that is going to double the size

1:23:47

of the Universal Orlando Resort and truly

1:23:49

start the theme park war in Orlando

1:23:51

or will it finish it.

1:23:53

It's a totally separate theme park.

1:23:55

It is a totally separate theme park. I'm going

1:23:57

to send you some links. Please do it too,

1:23:59

because let me something They are

1:24:01

not playing not playing?

1:24:03

Do you like the movie had Finger Dragon.

1:24:06

Stop talk about

1:24:08

a score?

1:24:10

Yes, you spoke of Harry Potter earlier.

1:24:12

You're in luck.

1:24:12

They're they're doing a Harry Potter.

1:24:14

Yes they are, and it might be called Battle

1:24:16

at the Ministry of Magic, and the villain

1:24:18

might be Dolores Umbradge herself reprised

1:24:20

by Emelda Staunton. Okay,

1:24:24

there is new technology they have not yet revealed that will

1:24:26

make the attraction unforgettable. Then

1:24:29

there's a dark universe which is gonna have all

1:24:32

the universal classic monsters, Oh

1:24:35

my god. And finally Super Nintendo World.

1:24:37

We're gonna ride Mario Kart.

1:24:39

You're end World at Hollywood.

1:24:42

Have you been yet?

1:24:43

I'm not a Nintendo World.

1:24:44

You gotta take the whole team, take the do

1:24:46

it. You gotta take the whole team.

1:24:48

You.

1:24:49

I would love to see Joe. Joe has been.

1:24:51

Joe has taken her

1:24:53

niece, nephew, one of her relatives to that

1:24:55

park and has a lot of things. Does Joe like the part

1:24:59

re roller coaster?

1:25:01

This is a metaphor for friendship, so it doesn't

1:25:04

it's healing. But that's two

1:25:06

people on the ride together and they're going over

1:25:08

the till and zero gravity.

1:25:10

That makes me happy.

1:25:11

It's got the circle. You can tell that's fresh. It's

1:25:13

fresh fresh. Yeah, she's got her second

1:25:16

skin on. But what's this joke that you have.

1:25:18

It's like recycling a theme park. You're part of the problem. You're

1:25:20

part of the problem. Throw your hands up, three hands up, being.

1:25:23

Like offended at a comedy show.

1:25:28

Trying to recycle.

1:25:30

Yeah, you're you're here, You're you're part of the problem. Yeah,

1:25:32

just throw your hands up, so.

1:25:34

Good, throw your hands up.

1:25:35

Title of app.

1:25:36

Title of app.

1:25:36

Three hands up and we throw our hands up for Taylor

1:25:39

Tom we throw our hands up and clap them in the air.

1:25:41

Wow, this was so fun. Thank you

1:25:43

so much for having you. Came

1:25:45

honored so much. Like I

1:25:47

said, one of the first things I saw you when

1:25:50

we met for the show was like, it's not a surprise

1:25:52

to me at all to see you continue to be so great and do

1:25:54

so well. So star Star Star watch

1:25:56

after Midnight and we end every episode

1:25:59

with the song to Midnight.

1:26:06

Sorry do you know has a song?

1:26:09

I think we used her song and our trailers

1:26:12

for the show. I think it was just so perfect, Yeah,

1:26:14

so good, so amazed.

1:26:16

You should play it right before the show. But I know you.

1:26:18

I asked our amazing Percy

1:26:20

incredible on. I was gonna say, he's

1:26:23

PERSI amazing great

1:26:26

come to the show for Percy.

1:26:28

He doesn't me, doesn't he

1:26:31

dances?

1:26:31

He did like knows

1:26:33

the Beyonce single Ladies Dance.

1:26:35

Like he does it all and then he's like, Matt, come on and

1:26:37

do it. And I would never do that. He did got

1:26:39

me to do it and I didn't. I didn't know it, but

1:26:42

he got me to commit, which is the power of person,

1:26:44

which is the.

1:26:44

Power of Percy.

1:26:45

I asked him to put hot to go on the

1:26:47

list. Happy and when people know the.

1:26:49

Dance, it's really fun. But you do

1:26:51

have to wait a while for the dance to kick it.

1:26:53

So I think I need to tell him the time stamp on it because

1:26:55

sometimes people get because he has audience members

1:26:58

come up and dance on commercial.

1:26:59

Brands, and some of them know how to go the dance. Yes,

1:27:02

Chapel is taking off. Man, Oh my god, she's

1:27:04

so good travel Come

1:27:07

on the show girl, She'd love

1:27:09

the show. I feel I feel like she well, she knows

1:27:11

of the show because she won Album of the Year last year

1:27:13

before her album even came out, and at the Cultural Awards.

1:27:15

Amazing, she said in a video, thanking us and watch

1:27:17

the Space Chapel. You maybe racking up some numbs of this

1:27:20

year's Cultural Awards.

1:27:22

Bye bye,