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1:00

united. Ladino Front a cultural renaissance

1:02

organizing. At the forefront of the

1:04

movement. I'm money at, you

1:06

know? Hossein Nasr. Ryan. Hey.

1:10

Let you Know Usa Listener years a

1:13

show. The Last Archives. I'm

1:18

really cold. I'm

1:22

walking on the impressive grounds

1:24

of Howard University in Washington

1:26

Dc. This is. A historic

1:29

place, but today it's

1:31

raining and freezing. And

1:35

now I've just entered a waiting

1:37

room at the university. I'm with

1:39

Lucky Me producer Rinaldo language junior

1:41

and just in this moment of

1:43

history of like what does that

1:45

mean to you to be talking

1:47

about democracy today The thing is

1:50

is that we have to be

1:52

talking about democracy because the World's

1:54

greatest Democracy so called is a

1:56

threat. I'm getting ready

1:58

to take the stage for. Yeah,

2:00

know where we're going to

2:02

be talking about journalism Blind

2:05

spots in the mainstream media.

2:07

This is all part of

2:09

the inaugural Democracy Summit hosted

2:12

by Howard Universities Journalism Program.

2:14

This conference, in this moment

2:16

in history. Well, it's a

2:18

very big deal. The

2:21

panel I'm on is just one

2:23

of several that take place that

2:26

day. He was organized by the

2:28

New York Times journalist Nicole Santa

2:30

Jones. She's sounded and now runs

2:33

Journalism and Democracy Center here and

2:35

Howard University. Through.

2:40

It took me a minute that I

2:42

finally was able to get warm and

2:45

dry backstage and now I've gotta go

2:47

onstage and see the audience which I

2:49

can hear from the other. Side of

2:51

the curtain. But before

2:53

I go on, I happened to spot

2:55

Nicole's who's been running around the entire

2:57

day. I mean, this is for conference

2:59

after all, Her center of course, And

3:02

I see that she's taking. A moment

3:04

to check your phone. She is

3:07

wearing a beautiful green dress. She

3:09

has her signature read here. I.

3:12

Go up to her and congratulate her

3:14

on the center and on this conference

3:16

until the know you're feeling a little.

3:18

just turn the sound like the smell,

3:20

the. You know, Relatively

3:23

speaking, For this moment as

3:25

Howard I feel name. A

3:28

year ago I had a visitor know

3:30

what I wanted to create. Now when

3:32

I got to Howard that I wanted

3:34

to frame together rooms The dermis that

3:37

looks like America the top about a

3:39

month for see an American is what

3:41

we need to do here. So they

3:43

have Friday for within their spent some

3:45

powerful today. How does it feel to

3:48

have a home? How that. And

3:51

that's exactly what how I survived. You

3:53

know? When everything happened last or the

3:55

universe in North Carolina is destiny and

3:57

of everything happens for that Aca town.

4:00

Needed to be in every way. how it feels

4:02

like home. so I'm just hungry for these other

4:04

people get to experience a taste of what it's

4:06

like. Here as you know and

4:08

feel I feel contents are filling

4:11

her fears and I'm doing work.

4:13

That I'm supposed to do where I'm supposed to

4:15

do with mean it's just an emotional. Please,

4:18

It's an emotional see yes

4:20

snacks. Musical or you don't

4:22

say yes, Democracies and journalism Him

4:24

which stewart cause them to see

4:26

such as The Zebra etc. I

4:29

mean you now with right as

4:31

Journalists hello We could never first

4:33

hand that in our experiences don't

4:36

save our journalism. He could never

4:38

pretend that democracy is a given.

4:40

Because it's never banned for any of

4:42

us are. So. What

4:46

we're trying to do with how our

4:48

professor on the San. Francisco

5:02

to media and your ex. it's

5:04

let you know usa I might

5:07

be a closer to the a

5:09

conversation with author Professor at Times

5:11

journalist Nicole Anna. Nicole.

5:20

Hannah Jones rose to. And

5:24

she published the Sixteen Nineteen Project

5:26

In Twenty Nine To The Times.

5:28

The Sixteen Nineteen Project is a

5:31

sexual history of have a legacy

5:33

of slavery continues to shape and

5:35

define life in America. It marks

5:37

the four hundredth anniversary of the

5:40

arrival of the first enslaved Africans

5:42

in the Colony of Virginia. The

5:44

Project aims to refrain the country's

5:46

history understanding Sixteen Nineteen as are

5:49

true founding. And placing the

5:51

consequence following the release of the

5:53

Sixteen Nineteen project the Far Right

5:56

Propaganda Machine point on the attack

5:58

against a cool and. It

6:00

is included former President Donald

6:02

Trump who called the Project

6:05

for Unquote poison. This project

6:07

rewrites American history to teach.

6:09

Our children said we were

6:12

founded on the principle as

6:14

a precious and afraid of.

6:19

The Works: One Nicole a

6:21

Pulitzer Prize in Twenty Twenty

6:23

Five. The backlash continued. Since

6:26

the project's release, state and

6:29

local governments have banned schools

6:31

from teaching a sixteen nineteen

6:33

project and of often conflated

6:35

Nicole's work with Critical Race

6:38

Theory. Today,

6:40

Nicole, Hannah Jones joins me

6:42

for a conversation about how

6:44

she's pushed ahead despite controversy

6:46

and how she's come to

6:48

terms with always trying to

6:50

fit in in predominantly white

6:53

spaces. As a journalist, Later

6:56

we take a trip to Nyc calls

6:59

home towns of Waterloo, Iowa to see

7:01

how she's giving back to the community

7:03

with a special passion project. Nicole.

7:09

Hannah Jones Welcome to Latino Usa!

7:12

It's so great to have you

7:14

on the show! Thank.

7:16

You! I'm glad to finally be here.

7:18

And I just wanna say thank

7:21

you for everything that you're doing

7:23

a in particular because you included

7:25

me in a pretty extraordinary moment

7:28

which was your Democracy Summit in

7:30

November of Twenty Twenty Two. And

7:33

their. You actually said.

7:35

That. You were. Really? Happy

7:38

to be at Howard because you felt

7:40

like finally you were at home And

7:42

I'm wondering if you can just tell

7:44

us a little bit about that sensors.

7:46

Howard been your home for this work. Yes,

7:49

Thank you! So. One.

7:52

Always always happy to speak with

7:54

you and you know I'm. Such

7:56

an admirer of your work!

7:58

And the space it you may. For let's you

8:01

know journalists but also just journalists of

8:03

color and telling the story the people

8:05

of color So I'm and I just

8:07

as i really enjoy your your workout.

8:09

Videos on Instagram. I

8:15

would say it's inspiring. It does not inspire

8:17

me to to pursue the same thing, but

8:19

I do enjoy. It was a very such

8:22

a bad as. So.

8:25

Yeah, you know I am a

8:27

person who in general does not

8:29

believe in regrets. Ah, I think

8:31

they're pretty useless Way, Whatever has

8:33

happened in the past, he can't

8:35

do much about it. so why

8:37

spend a lot of time focusing

8:39

on it? But one of my

8:41

very few regrets allies is that

8:43

I did not attend an historically

8:45

black college, and particularly that I

8:47

didn't attend Howard So I like

8:50

many. People. Like that. Made

8:52

my way through White in situ

8:54

since starting in the second grade

8:56

when I was bus to wide

8:58

schools to my undergraduate institution, to

9:00

graduate school, to every newspaper. I've ever

9:02

worked debt. And. We

9:04

seal some time that we have to do that. To

9:07

prove ourselves right. To so that

9:09

we can excel in these white

9:11

spaces. but it comes at such.

9:13

A person on emotional cost.

9:16

So being at Howard to

9:18

be at a place literally

9:20

built around or the bullies

9:22

in black excellence built to.

9:25

Provide education, And opportunities

9:27

for people who had been

9:29

enslaved and their descendants and

9:31

to walk on a campus

9:33

where I don't have to

9:35

prove basic worse basic, intimate

9:38

basic value but kinda teach

9:40

my students are in the

9:42

to this end of my

9:44

community to do the journalism.

9:46

That I think our our nation needs.

9:48

So when I walk on campus. It's.

9:51

Is such a different silly and I met

9:54

you feel that with the media company that

9:56

you've built right he cites. I walk on

9:58

campus and. I'm not. Reminded.

10:00

That I'm the only one am not having to search. And

10:03

find that other black person inside. You do

10:05

the head nod with that other person. I

10:07

don't go into a class rooms and I'm

10:09

you know, maybe two students who look like

10:11

me. Go. Into buildings that are named

10:13

after slave owners way I. Don't have to

10:15

do any of those things so it does.

10:17

So like home. I want to

10:20

ask you for a second about what

10:22

you just said, which is you and

10:24

I both have been working in predominantly

10:26

white institutions, right? Both. Of us

10:28

in college and at work and going

10:31

to the Ivy League for you, working

10:33

at the New York Times? for me,

10:35

working at Pbs and Pr Cnn. I

10:38

mean, this did give us validation. Obviously

10:41

in the mainstream news media.

10:43

And you know I just want to take a moment. To.

10:46

Talk about this thing right? How

10:48

you and I both has spent

10:50

a lot of our careers actually

10:53

having to get our stories approved

10:55

by white men and really trying

10:57

to think about. All. The

10:59

time that we spent trying to get them

11:01

to approve these brilliant ideas, Rights. And I

11:04

guess just looking back, Nicole, How does it

11:06

make you feel that. We. Thought.

11:09

That we really had. To prove ourselves over and

11:11

over again. Yeah. I

11:13

have spent a lot of time

11:15

thinking about says. I remember being

11:17

in high school and when I

11:20

was trying to decide where. I

11:22

might go to college. Really

11:24

understanding that. I was going to

11:26

have to get my credentials farm in a

11:28

lead white in situ since to try to

11:31

mitigate. Racism Like I. I'm like

11:33

seventeen eighteen years old and I'm

11:35

thinking, you know, If. If

11:37

I have Notre Dame or my resume,

11:39

people will assume a certain amount of

11:41

intelligence right? There would be something that's

11:43

still have to prove myself, but there

11:46

will be things I won't have to

11:48

work so hard to prove. And that's

11:50

what I made that decision on. And

11:52

then until. This. Year I

11:54

hadn't been back to Notre Dame since the

11:56

yeah I graduated because it was a terrible

11:58

experience for me. He was

12:01

a traumatizing experience for me. I it's.

12:03

I don't have any of the have sex in or

12:05

finity for. My alma mater. There's so many. People. Have

12:07

for there's but I sell. I had

12:09

to make that choice and I think

12:11

we get that message. Pretty. Early

12:14

and working class communities of

12:16

color that. When people

12:18

in our community see a spark in

12:20

us, are they they? They believe all

12:23

this. This child. Has potential. It

12:26

seems like one of the first messages we

12:28

get is okay. we have two ways to

12:30

get this out out of this community. Rights

12:32

I remember people saying it's or education and

12:34

get out of here. You have to get

12:36

a good educations you can get out of

12:38

here and that sends a message. That.

12:40

There's something wrong with our communities

12:42

in that if you want to

12:45

be successful, you have to leave

12:47

your communities or spaces that look

12:49

like your community and I certainly

12:51

internalized that and to some degree.

12:55

It. Is kind of true right? Like you,

12:57

you do have to prove yourself in

12:59

these white as citizens. But then we

13:01

don't think that enough about the sacrifices

13:03

that are made in order to do

13:05

that. And I think both of us

13:07

at a certain point in our lives

13:09

realize that. Silly, no, no we don't

13:11

with proven everything. We're ever going to

13:13

prove. And so I think both of

13:16

us are trying to build spaces where we can

13:18

imbue young. Journalists of color and

13:20

just. Young. People Of Color

13:22

Period. With it with a different sensibility.

13:25

Nicole. At the to receive North

13:27

Carolina Chapel Hill it is in fact

13:29

your alma mater. That's. Also where

13:31

you ended up working as a journalism

13:33

professor. And then you applied to get.

13:36

The Night share. This is one

13:38

of the most prestigious journalism shares

13:40

in the country. It comes with

13:42

tenure is you do get it.

13:45

But. Then there was some

13:47

controversy. You went through this very

13:50

public tenure battle that came. As.

13:52

A result of your work on

13:54

your sixteen nineteen projects and ultimately.

13:57

You. Know you ended up. The

14:00

in all of that. And. Moving

14:02

to Howard University? So can

14:04

you tell me exactly how

14:06

that happened? So. So

14:08

I I applied. I went

14:11

through the ten review process for

14:13

tenure review process. I was unanimously

14:15

approved for ten years at the

14:18

university level months faculty but. The.

14:20

Board of Trustees for the University

14:22

is they are political appointees and

14:24

most of them had them are

14:26

are appointed by republican governors and

14:29

they opposed to Sixty Nineteen project

14:31

and a very wealthy donor interfered

14:33

in my tenure process and ultimately

14:35

that's why I was that granted

14:37

the job. with ten years now,

14:39

the craziest part about it is

14:41

because I had become such a

14:43

divisive figure and had been in

14:45

the media so much I wasn't

14:47

either going to challenge it, I

14:49

just didn't want. To have this

14:52

public sites. but the conservatives who

14:54

stopped me from getting ten. We're

14:56

not satisfied with that. I got

14:58

a five year contract instead and they

15:00

didn't think I said have that either.

15:02

So they wrote a story about how

15:04

ice I shouldn't, my tenure was taken

15:06

and I should have gotten hired at

15:08

all. And then it just blew up

15:10

into a huge national scandal because it

15:13

was clear that I had been discriminated

15:15

against both I think racially and for

15:17

my view points. In so in the

15:19

middle of that. I. Decided, You

15:21

know, I. Was going to go. So

15:24

the fight with over them voting on

15:26

my tenure with they ultimately did and

15:28

they ultimately approve my tenure. But at

15:31

that point I decided I was done

15:33

begging white institutions to let me end

15:35

to treat us fairly That I was

15:37

born to go to a historically black

15:39

college and I was going to use

15:41

that moment to make a statement. About

15:43

the worth of people of color. That.

15:45

Institutions that, like we said, you're

15:47

lucky to be their rights. We

15:50

should be blessed that they let

15:52

a sense and don't acknowledge everything

15:54

that we brains. It. Was just

15:56

one of those moments where. As a

15:58

person of color, You excel because you have

16:00

to write. We have to be twice as

16:02

good. Lead: Know that? That's that's what we

16:04

do and you can do every day that

16:07

these folks tell you you have to do

16:09

and then at the end they'll just say

16:11

the rules on you scientists. Decide: I wasn't

16:14

I wasn't playing their game anymore and I

16:16

was proud to come to Howard. I was

16:18

proud to brain twenty plus million dollars with

16:20

me ah at Howard and to found this

16:23

center there for the benefit of Ice Dorothy

16:25

Black Colleges in general and I hope democracy.

16:28

Is. So again, Nicole, it's when we're

16:30

together, it's leading, and we don't often

16:32

have the time to. Sit

16:34

down and actually like. I

16:36

don't know. Have a Ducky lower a cup of coffee and

16:39

talk about these things. And now advice. Or. Both

16:41

of us ssssss, but.

16:44

From. Afar we admire each other. We

16:47

support each other. We think about each

16:49

other. We applaud each other's work. But.

16:53

Nothing that I have done has compared

16:55

to what. The. Kind of backlash

16:58

that you have received because of your

17:00

work. So. States have banned

17:02

your words. People. Go

17:04

after you, right? Now Twitter:

17:06

such a complicated place but the

17:08

social media kind of attacks that

17:10

aren't non stop and you are

17:12

a black woman who is also

17:14

a mom. So how do

17:17

you manage this? Thank. You

17:19

so much for asking that question and I know

17:21

you know. Because of the racists

17:23

attacks said chew off an experience that

17:25

the work best take a toll. I

17:27

mean a week we are bad asses

17:29

in a lot to roll off your

17:31

back a while. So human beings and

17:33

you know you can only be called

17:35

it a inward so many times. And shrug

17:38

it off. I get it does bother. You when you

17:40

get threads, when people try to discredit the

17:42

work that you do. But if you would

17:44

ask me a year ago or two years

17:47

ago I was struggling our I won't lie,

17:49

I didn't I didn't intend to be in

17:51

the public eye in the way that I

17:53

have ban. I'm a print journalists for a

17:56

reason. I didn't expect to become a symbol

17:58

either that people. Loved or. Completely

18:00

hated and we're in the pandemics. I

18:02

was home alone obsessing over every single

18:04

day that was being written or said

18:07

about me, which is why I was

18:09

on twitter. Probably? are you in wait?

18:11

Wait, more than I said of their

18:13

arm and but right now I really

18:16

I really am in a state of

18:18

the close. As I can say is

18:20

then I understand that one. You don't

18:23

attack something like this that you're not

18:25

afraid of. that is this project is

18:27

this work wasn't having impact. They wouldn't.

18:30

Be trying to ban as they wouldn't

18:32

be trying to destroy it and sell

18:34

in some ways and. That's the greatest honor

18:36

I can. I can imagine it's when

18:38

all of these powerful. Mostly

18:40

white man feel the need to

18:42

try to attack the work and

18:44

to attack me. so I just.

18:47

I'm not on social media and that much

18:49

and lord knows that as as he very

18:51

healthy is very healthy not to be on

18:53

so so and even if I am, I'm

18:55

rarely. engaging any. I'm.

18:57

Focusing on the work that I'm

18:59

doing, I spend time with my

19:01

friends and family and go to

19:04

this fall when I can sense

19:06

and really just trying to focus

19:08

on what is important. I

19:12

come from a blue collar

19:14

town, from a family. The

19:16

had nothing's and all you have a jury

19:18

sped through respect becalmed so important when people

19:20

would be like oh, just let it roll

19:23

off your back. I don't se know how

19:25

to do that right because to me not

19:27

answering. Disrespect when I know how far

19:29

we worked on this, when I know

19:31

that so hard for me. Except

19:34

what I what I've come to now

19:36

understands his. These are people who said

19:38

they say something No one pays attention.

19:40

To it until I respond. And

19:43

the I was allowing people to drag

19:45

me into arguments that benefitted them and

19:48

is nothing for me. Coming

19:54

up on Latino Usa, I continue

19:56

my conversation with the coal Hannah

19:58

Jones and later. Letting us. Producer

20:00

Reynaldo Liang use Junior

20:02

takes us to Waterloo,

20:04

Iowa where we visit

20:07

Nicole's Passion Projects for

20:09

Sixteen nineteen, Freedom School.

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21:25

After her very public battle with

21:28

the University of North Carolina at

21:30

Chapel Hill let ties back

21:32

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21:39

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21:43

sixteen nineteen Freedom School. Nicole

21:50

while you were busy dealing with

21:52

the tenure battle. You. Are

21:54

also a working journalist for The

21:56

New York Times. You were promoting

21:58

your book on. Of all of

22:00

that, You. Also, have

22:02

you know you manage to have

22:05

time division to open an after

22:07

school program? It's the sixteen nineteen

22:09

Freedom School in Waterloo, Iowa and

22:12

the school has been open for

22:14

a year now. Can you tell

22:16

me what's the story behind that? You.

22:18

Know so I I come from this. Oh

22:21

wow we say I know name town and a

22:23

fly overstayed and in a place that most people

22:25

don't even think about. When you think about black

22:28

people, nobody thinks. About. Iowa. But but

22:30

we are everywhere. I really

22:32

do believe that a common good. I

22:34

really do believe that our fates are

22:36

are intertwined it in I think that

22:39

comes from again coming from a people

22:41

were when you are black in this

22:43

country, your individual status, your individual complishments,

22:45

none of that mattered. You still couldn't

22:48

go into the. Restaurant you wanted to. Go.

22:50

To he still couldn't get

22:52

into universities in the south.

22:54

I get your your collective

22:56

identities is what. Determines.

22:59

Most. Opportunities in your life. So

23:01

we've had to be a collective

23:03

people and we've had to realize

23:05

that you can't is advocate. For

23:07

yourself. Because. If the

23:09

rest your community is held down you will

23:11

be how down as well. So. My.

23:13

Best friend from high school

23:16

is a elementary school teacher.

23:18

Waterloo into porous most segregated.

23:20

Elementary school and I had adopted her class,

23:22

buying books for the kids coming and talked

23:25

into the kids and during the pandemic I

23:27

was talking to her about how few of

23:29

her kids were logging in right when when

23:31

the school said down and we were all

23:33

and virtual schools where these kids many of

23:35

them. they will have computers at home or

23:37

they may have one device and all the

23:40

kids the sharing the same device. Mom is

23:42

working two jobs and there's no one there

23:44

to sit at the computer with them all

23:46

day and makes it a doing school work

23:48

and I was like. These kids are

23:50

already two to three grade levels

23:52

behind the readings before the pandemic.

23:55

so. The. Pandemic was going to be

23:57

devastating for them and I had been trying to think of

23:59

a way to give back to my hometown. Anyway,

24:01

Because you know there there is

24:03

a bit of guilt about being

24:06

so successful. But. Your

24:08

community is not. Your committee is struggling

24:10

when I go home. Nobody. Lives like

24:12

me And so I decided. then I was.

24:14

Talking to my best friend The Sees the Cold

24:17

Director and lead teacher have the Freedom School. And

24:19

I said we should just start a are

24:21

after school literacy program for these kids and

24:24

it's to be based. Around them learning

24:26

their history because. They. Don't get

24:28

black history in school and so

24:30

we provide everything for free. We

24:33

have a professionally design curriculum, a

24:35

beautiful library, a. Beautiful facility with

24:37

with murals, I brought in a

24:39

mirror lists All of our teachers are

24:42

certified teachers and. They just get that,

24:44

the love, the nurturing and the affirmation as

24:46

well as far the literacy instruction that they

24:48

so desperately need of all the things that

24:50

I've done. On. The most proud

24:52

of this. It's not built like a

24:55

classroom there so Thursday's big pillow sites

24:57

they could come. Grabbed their blog mail

24:59

on the sofa. Go.

25:01

Into our library and just feel.

25:04

Loved and that the reason so many

25:07

of our kids don't like to read

25:09

is because they can't write. None of

25:11

us want to sit all day trying

25:13

to to work on something that we

25:16

can't do. And once we started giving

25:18

them literacy instruction and they could actually

25:20

reads, they love reading. Big. Soccer

25:23

right? Is that sacking? It's we know how

25:25

to educate our kids. We just refuse to

25:27

do it. So yeah, it's it. It is

25:29

truly. The greatest thing I've ever done. And

25:39

just like Nichols said earlier, she didn't

25:41

do this alone or best friend. Surrey

25:44

Distance was by her side sorry that

25:46

is the code Director of the sixteen

25:48

nineteen Freedom School. Muscles like the will

25:50

you think is the biggest me will

25:53

be With what can we do online

25:55

breeding know reading is the key to

25:57

everything. So after the year and a

25:59

half we finally came up with a

26:02

solid ideas. This. School is

26:04

on the second floor of a

26:06

large red pill team and most

26:08

of the teachers are retired. Black

26:10

are people who wanna give back.

26:12

Fourth and fifth graders come from

26:14

schools all around the area and

26:17

now producer scene and all the

26:19

angles Jr is gonna take us

26:21

to Waterloo, Iowa. The

26:46

other bus comes in about five

26:48

ten minutes. You

26:50

can follow those guys a

26:53

fair se. They seem to

26:55

assess. My

26:58

name is Rita Stokes. I am

27:00

the code Director and the curriculum

27:02

Coordinator at the sixteen nineteen Freedom

27:04

School. I

27:08

was born and raised in Waterloo,

27:11

Iowa, my parents lived here, my

27:13

dad own the one of the

27:15

first black construction companies and I.

27:18

My dad was born in the Safety

27:20

Razor Mississippi. My grandmother if we picked

27:23

must be actually have her Cotton Sachs

27:25

Fifth, she used a sudden for thirty

27:27

six. Agree to think about how big

27:29

a patent psyche is my grandfather. my

27:31

mother's father always talked about growing up

27:34

in Mississippi picking cotton in the things

27:36

that happen then, and I don't remember

27:38

learning a lot about black history. I

27:40

remember learned about Martin succeeding. I remember

27:43

going to school in the eighties. It

27:45

was a big thing when they first

27:47

started celebrating Dr. King's. Holiday So it

27:49

wasn't a mandatory holidays so some people

27:51

still went to school. but I do

27:53

remember like my church encouraging people not

27:55

to go to school that day because

27:57

it was starting to be of as.

28:00

No holidays. It

28:02

wasn't until high school when I

28:04

had to mister dow class about

28:07

actually got in. Merced ensued Real

28:09

black history I guess I see

28:11

the call it there were it

28:13

was more than just says top

28:15

three names. We actually study from

28:17

Africa up until recent and that

28:19

kind of sparked the whole interest

28:21

in learning more about history. Oh.

28:35

I'm all hang. On.

28:39

For more. Than

28:42

an. Alligator.

28:49

Winning is all in it. And

28:51

ten years old, my name, address

28:53

and and since when is silly

28:55

nonsense and he's hanging on eleven.

28:57

What do you want me to

28:59

know about the Sixty nineteen Freedom

29:01

School? Senate Health said so Reading

29:04

he learned a lot about Black

29:06

history houses difference from regular score

29:08

the to go to. School

29:11

with the late about black history has

29:13

I make you feel the fact that you're.

29:15

Not really learning about this stuff and

29:18

regular school. He said amanda,

29:20

we don't get the land of of more black people

29:22

than we do a Nautilus. Feels

29:26

about my letter was already. Considering

29:29

it. I

29:34

guess growing up in Iowa and thought

29:36

it was normal to not have a

29:39

lot of black teachers even when my

29:41

own adulthood or went to school, I

29:43

don't recall them having any African American

29:46

teachers in elementary school and or as

29:48

the school they went to the one

29:50

of the purposes of this program and

29:53

having African American teacher this. knowing that

29:55

we still have some schools that have

29:57

zero African American teacher than some. It

30:00

never get that experience am one

30:02

of the things you could look

30:04

at of research shows that black

30:06

kids learn. The friend teacher said

30:08

look like them because they're more

30:10

comfortable. They believe them more just

30:12

different things but then did not

30:14

ever have that opportunity would just

30:17

be a disservice to any to.

30:21

The deathly break stereotypes as if you've

30:23

never had a black teachers used only

30:25

experience as you may have a black

30:27

tea are may be on tv. And

30:30

it's probably not a cast the show

30:32

type with a quality team beats because

30:34

I don't think there's any cells like

30:36

that anymore so is not going to

30:38

be a wholesome. So you're going to

30:40

automatically think of violence, even a thing

30:42

bad and are going to think that

30:44

but just having a black teacher presents

30:46

kindness bands that stereotype way to say

30:48

okay with their teacher, they're teaching me,

30:50

they're nice. It's not bad people and

30:52

it just kind of overall health. That

30:54

means. In

31:00

my winter gear, I'm

31:02

ready to. And

31:07

seasons. Change

31:09

the past Conflict with can he can describe

31:11

what is happening right now. This

31:14

is perfect for them or once the

31:16

kids to read independently. We know that

31:19

in order for them to improve their

31:21

breeding, the have to practice reading. So

31:23

we have them practice. They're reading here

31:25

for ten minutes in hopes that the

31:28

else developed strongest fluency skills. I

31:31

bundle up quickly, earn my list.

31:33

Yeah, I'm ready to die then.

31:36

My. Name is Louise Louder

31:38

and I am a sixteen

31:41

nineteen teacher and an elitist

31:43

or hear. A

31:46

lot of the books the kids

31:48

are routinely has section and nonfiction

31:50

books and the majority of the

31:52

books are by African American authors

31:54

and illustrators. Cel When the kids

31:56

are looking through the books, those

31:58

that have teachers. We wanted

32:00

to have a reflection of themselves. And

32:02

see children doing things that they. Normally.

32:05

Would do for they'll feel more connected to the

32:07

books. So.

32:09

This program. Did an

32:11

extensive. Search. To

32:14

look for such books where the

32:16

kids could feel comfortable and so

32:18

relax and enjoy the message that

32:20

they're giving them through kids are

32:22

as well as tax. Father.

32:30

Was a roof. And

32:34

quickly. Became

32:38

a elementary school. Teacher.

32:47

Can. You walk me through how you

32:49

first met Nicole. We actually

32:51

met in high school. N E O

32:53

P class expanded learning programs that Athena

32:55

is like force me to class for

32:57

the smart kids I guess what a

33:00

supposed to be by it's we were

33:02

the only two African American girls in

33:04

the class and so as with most

33:06

places have a didn't know anybody else

33:08

in a class for we bonded says

33:10

as a rich to black girls and

33:12

so we just kind of started talking.

33:14

we started hanging out. We ended up

33:16

in the same African American History class

33:18

with Mister Thou for that he could

33:20

sparked a bonding. Anything more of that

33:22

year and then we were west high

33:24

in the nineties with if we're some

33:26

little racial incidents that went on and

33:28

then there was just sounds club said

33:30

like he has weren't allowed to be

33:32

in kind of are unsafe they're not

33:34

allowed to be an she also wrote

33:36

for West Tied newspaper by literally out

33:38

to write stories that West I assigned

33:40

to are not necessarily stories every wise

33:42

and it was a camera for the

33:44

incident. A with some incident that happened

33:46

where of the psycho school was kind

33:49

of an uproar and so in the.

33:51

Coal myself and some other classmates created

33:53

a cultural enrichment club which was more

33:55

so a club where we to learn

33:57

about our own history and other called.

34:01

He had a march to try to

34:03

get African American studies required as the

34:05

class to the to the we felt

34:07

like that was importance and now this

34:09

was in mind. Too fast for to

34:11

twenty twenty two is still not require

34:13

any. Announced last back to the sixties

34:15

when east I also had a protest

34:17

of the same sort to get African

34:19

American studies. So here we are. generations,

34:22

And generations of trying to do the same thing

34:24

and is still hasn't happened yet. Site

34:34

even on a call an hour both an

34:37

eel p She was probably literally the smartest

34:39

person I've ever met her I guess in

34:41

a whole different realm of smartness I guess.

34:43

And her writings has always been immaculately. She

34:46

was either really the writer and always been

34:48

an advocate for a community. Even when she

34:50

moved away prior to was starting the Freedom

34:52

School she always with. Every time she came

34:55

to town she would come visit my classroom

34:57

and let the kids meter tissues. A writer

34:59

for the New York Times, he talked to

35:02

them about being a writer and. Just

35:04

literacy in general as she would always

35:06

purchase books from our classrooms for the

35:08

students. let them pick their own book

35:11

sometimes and she by him for them

35:13

but she always wanted to do more

35:15

because this is our hometown. This is

35:18

where she's farm see comes from being

35:20

bused to the other side of town

35:22

and happened to integrate schools and be

35:25

the only by person there. Are

35:28

families always kind of talked about that.

35:30

her dad was from Mississippi and he's

35:32

talk about his family moving up here

35:34

and different things like that. I think

35:37

it was just there are parents telling

35:39

us the history of our families and

35:41

us learning that and filling my wife

35:43

doesn't Everybody knows this and then also

35:46

think and oh that's how they deal

35:48

with pick cotton and be slaves and

35:50

in the find out that you are

35:52

people who actually made major contributions to

35:54

America and then the wonder is or

35:57

why isn't. This Todd, How come

35:59

nobody? Oh, and this is why

36:01

were we never taught this Like Why?

36:03

As a separate. It's when it's all

36:05

a part of American history to visit

36:08

them as aggressive as a matter and

36:10

so bring it back to this program.

36:12

We've noticed as we start teaching these

36:14

things had a key is the kids

36:16

really get into it. They really get

36:18

excited about it. They are really interested

36:20

in learning and and only does make

36:22

them wanna research and learn their own

36:24

history, just makes them more interested in

36:27

reading in general because now they discover

36:29

oh within these books. With the least worse

36:31

despite all the things that I never knew and

36:33

I can learn and I want to learn more

36:35

so as kind of a win win situation. For

36:42

all the. Places

36:44

your attention. So

36:47

and say that I've been something

36:49

a little differently. I watch a

36:51

video but we're going into what's

36:53

one. Okay, the first time you're

36:56

gonna watch I want. You to pay a

36:58

sitter to the fact that they are giving you. The. Second

37:00

time you're going to have to see

37:02

such are going to work on the

37:04

first was of and diagram. We're going

37:06

to compare the north to the south

37:08

what's different on both sides with done

37:10

and digress for what's the same in

37:12

the middle then on the next. When

37:14

you're gonna look at a specific parts

37:16

of their government that they talk about

37:18

in this film and are gonna take

37:20

notes. Deal. Right

37:22

for Hillary Duff. Name

37:37

is to rephrase years and I've been

37:39

teaching for a seizure. I

37:46

saw let's look at their military how they

37:48

differ. In

37:54

alleys and fat cells. the

37:57

North at more soldiers. That.

37:59

The Saturday there were more.

38:01

Motivation didn't because they

38:03

had generations. Of. Soldiers.

38:07

And is very important to understand

38:09

their history is where they come

38:11

from Because our black and brown

38:13

boots I made them feel as

38:15

as that their contributions are not

38:18

important to this country to the

38:20

importance of them. The see that

38:22

you guys are more than athletes

38:24

are more than is. This was

38:26

your more than just entertainment for

38:28

people who made really their contributions

38:30

to the society and without us

38:32

A lot of this led to

38:34

speak console Lean always portrayed as

38:36

slaves. Or entertainment or something negative

38:39

has they need to see this

38:41

as a positive way? indices what

38:43

contributions their ancestors made. A more

38:46

conservative thinkers in. Areas

38:50

that he brings of the tape. Air.

38:54

Space. Get some. He was

38:57

in a military so therefore he

38:59

had military experience sullivan that one

39:01

thing here that Abraham Lincoln they

39:04

live. High

39:16

on. Have you been coming here

39:19

a couple weeks? or? yeah. The

39:22

like summer. And

39:25

what is your favorite thing about coming

39:27

to the sixteen eighteen Freedom for? I

39:29

have. It seems like. We've.

39:33

Qualms about fat people.

39:37

You would like to make friends.

39:41

Have you made friends here? Yes. What! It's

39:43

one thing that you've learned here that you've

39:45

really enjoy. Sharing

39:47

something. On what it's

39:49

like learning about her. People.

39:54

Play very well as soon as

39:57

the Underground Railroad. My.

40:03

Mom Me: honey. Honey.

40:14

I think I was being interviewed

40:16

one day and someone asks me

40:18

about the backlash of the good

40:20

because the program had a base

40:22

of African American materials and miles

40:24

west of the dam was just

40:26

a proper what is the problem

40:28

is the problems Teaching kids how

40:30

to read or is a teaching

40:32

kids of color how to learn?

40:35

I will say overall ninety percent

40:37

as in full support of the

40:39

program. Is

40:57

once you for the know that

41:00

sixteen nineteen Freedom School is here

41:02

to say are kind of catch

41:04

phrases. Liberation shows that receives as

41:06

we know that's litter. Siva have

41:09

been the worst in any aspect

41:11

any round of life. In

41:19

we just that of the got my conversation

41:21

with to call Hannah Jones to talk about

41:23

growing up in Waterloo. Iowa and

41:25

How Plus influenced. Her work,

41:27

stay, With us, nothing like. Hey,

41:52

we're back! Before

41:55

the break we visited the

41:57

Coal Hannah Jones sixteen Nineteen

41:59

Freedoms. In Waterloo, Iowa

42:01

and there we heard from teachers

42:03

and their fourth and fifth grade

42:05

students. Now let's get back to

42:08

my conversation with Nicole Anna Jones.

42:11

Said. Nicole the after school program

42:13

is in Waterloo. Yeah, I'm I

42:16

think it's really interesting what you

42:18

said which is you're recognizing your

42:20

own privilege right? You have our

42:22

or Lou and you have been

42:24

incredibly. Successful. And

42:27

I wanna know about. Managing.

42:30

The privilege that you have now, the

42:32

success that you have now. And when

42:34

you put that and you think about

42:36

you as a little girl. Can.

42:38

You take us back to been. That

42:40

little girl in Waterloo and

42:43

how you understood your place.

42:45

In. The United States for me again. As a

42:47

Mexican kid growing up on the South side of

42:49

Chicago, it was like why I'm here: I'm having

42:51

a good time, but I'm pretty much invisible. What?

42:54

what? What was this overwhelming seem as

42:56

of your childhood growing up? Yeah,

42:59

so my home town is.

43:02

About fifteen percent black as it was when

43:04

I was growing up. so to blacker than

43:07

the nation and very. Black for one

43:09

of the widest states in the

43:11

country side. Grew up in a

43:13

black community and Waterloo with my

43:15

black family. My my grandmother had

43:17

twelve kids. God bless her! Yeah,

43:19

I'm like you knew had a sharecropper family

43:21

but you were on the plantation a more

43:24

you came over north the the a thought

43:26

of as as as I grew up both

43:28

like in the embrace a of a black

43:30

community but in a very white states So

43:33

I think I always. I

43:35

was a habit reader. I was extremely nerdy.

43:37

Both of my parents read a lot of

43:39

read newspapers. When I was the on

43:41

all of those things I describe it

43:43

as desperately trying to find myself in

43:45

the American Story. I. Just.

43:50

You know, journalists. People who become

43:52

journalists are natural skeptics, I think.

43:54

and so. I knew

43:56

I never saw as doing much in any

43:58

of the books we. Read or. When

44:01

we want to see black you put the newspaper. We had to

44:03

go to the crime laws. Of.

44:06

Literally the only place where well

44:08

black people were. Or represented And

44:10

and I just felt that that

44:12

wasn't right, that that wasn't reflective

44:14

of the truth. But no one

44:16

was giving me the truth. So

44:18

that's really why it has driven

44:20

me. I think by entire career

44:22

is knowing that. The. Reality

44:25

of what I was experiencing.

44:28

What I believed to be true wasn't matching

44:30

what. I was seeing in the media.

44:32

What we are being taught in school and

44:34

wanting to get and reflect. that that greater

44:36

troops I think my home town. Saves.

44:39

Me a lot And I'll say this also,

44:42

I grew up in a biracial households. My

44:44

mom is why. My dad is left

44:46

A and. I

44:48

saw very clearly like. Being.

44:51

Raised at that intersection where

44:53

my dad sat my sisters

44:55

and I down. We were very young

44:57

in he was like your mom might be

44:59

way but this America you are black you

45:01

will. Be treated like you're black. You were

45:03

going. World is black people. You are blinds.

45:06

You can. You. Can't be

45:08

whites, right? Our society. Like them back

45:10

when have your blacks and and so

45:12

I saw. That because I

45:15

had these intimate relationship with my wife's

45:17

side of the family which was also

45:19

working class. both sides of my sammy

45:21

working class but the working class item

45:23

away family had lands. right?

45:25

They own their homes. My

45:28

grandmother didn't work outside the home.

45:30

My grandfather was able to take

45:32

care of her office, his factory

45:34

job and is ah. The benefits of

45:36

that and I didn't know anybody or my

45:39

black side of family who had anything that

45:41

in on their home. They didn't have any

45:43

property work multiple jobs and couldn't get ahead,

45:45

say no. Even. As

45:48

a young person that it wasn't

45:50

because Why? people working harder that

45:52

they have more. Something.

45:55

And society was driving this because my

45:57

family worked hard, They. Worked. In see.

46:00

Packing plants right? My black

46:02

side, right? They they super

46:04

physically challenging. Were like the labour

46:06

I remember you know my uncle's coming home

46:08

at the end of the day and not

46:11

being able to make assist because they'd been

46:13

cutting carcasses hour days and my uncle Etti

46:15

my favorite uncle he always had the best

46:17

foreigners are it was rent or own because.

46:20

That's. All he could afford, but she

46:22

had great pride in this house that

46:24

he didn't even own and so I

46:26

I it was all these things that

46:28

I'm observing as the kids and see

46:30

infinitely both sides of this family who

46:32

are both working class but live very

46:34

very different lies even though they. All

46:37

work hard. So I think

46:39

all of that really drove my

46:41

quest to understand and my belief

46:43

that it was. Clearly. What

46:45

I was seeing was structural That it

46:47

wasn't about black pass hours. He wasn't

46:49

about people making individual choices, wasn't about

46:51

ambition that there was something bigger. At play

46:54

in a as that my life trying to excavate

46:56

that. Soda. Gold, You

46:58

and I. Are both very

47:00

much influenced by our upbringings, by

47:02

our experiences and were super clear

47:04

that are work reflects. That and

47:07

sometimes because of that were often

47:09

seen as biased. As

47:11

activists really? And so I

47:13

wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on the fact.

47:16

That journalistic specially journalists of

47:18

color, are labeled in this

47:20

way. Yeah. So

47:22

what I say That actually believe journalism

47:24

is activists. I'm. Not. The.

47:27

Same type of activism that is

47:29

Black Lives Matter. Or a pro

47:32

Immigration Grooves or. You know,

47:34

abortion rights groups? not that type

47:36

of life activism, But we become

47:38

journalists because we want to hold

47:41

power accountable, because we believe that

47:43

somebody has to speak on behalf

47:45

of the vulnerable. That's. That's.

47:47

Activism? You know when

47:50

The Washington Post? Has.

47:52

At it as it's motto. democracy

47:54

dies in darkness. that's not a

47:57

neutral position. That saying that we

47:59

believe our. Journalists. Is

48:01

to strengthen and maintain

48:03

democracies. When a journalist

48:06

covers child protective services

48:08

and doesn't investigation and

48:10

exposes barriers of that

48:12

system. Then. I'm doing a

48:14

discover like that to get my be interesting for

48:17

people to know this. They want that system to

48:19

work for the children is supposed to serve rights

48:21

so. I don't. Say.

48:24

Away. I. Say I'm

48:26

not and I activists in the way

48:28

that journalism is activism. I'm not a

48:31

activists in the way that people typically

48:33

see of activism. But to me, I.

48:35

Got into journalism said I want our

48:38

society to be better. I. Want

48:40

to do my part to expose the

48:42

way that our society sailing citizens and

48:44

non anyone who lives here and to

48:47

try through that exposure you know As

48:49

I did he well said that the

48:51

way to right wrongs a societal the

48:54

my the truth upon them so I

48:56

don't shy away from from that label.

48:58

Lot of people say that either. The

49:00

accusation. right? Year and activists?

49:03

Okay, well. says. Washington Post. And

49:05

because why they? why? Why are the covering

49:07

Donald Trump like they do? Because they believe

49:09

that our President should do certain things Sites

49:11

that. That's not healthy for democracy. There.

49:14

Have been challenges in both of our

49:16

communities, and I think that one of

49:19

the greatest challenges right now is the

49:21

fact that the Black Lives Matter movement

49:23

and the Pro Immigrant Rights movement or

49:25

kind of seems separately winning sacked. The.

49:28

Black Lives Matter movement and the

49:31

Pro Immigrant Rights movement or really

49:33

so interconnected and. It's an

49:35

issue in the Latino community.

49:37

Where there is a lot of

49:39

anti blackness historically right? So. I wanted

49:41

to ask you. What you think

49:44

could happen is these two movements:

49:46

the Pro Immigrant Rights Movement and

49:48

the Black Lives Matter movement. Very

49:51

actively and intentionally. Team

49:53

together. We. Have to

49:55

be intersection or. Because

49:57

we have to realize so one the thing

50:00

that we. Hear all the time

50:02

is. Our. Country going to

50:04

have to get better because our

50:07

demographics are systems well. One.

50:11

That's. Why we're seeing so many efforts

50:13

to subvert multi race a democracy

50:15

is because we're becoming to multi

50:17

racial. But so if we'll harness

50:19

that collective power it won't matter.

50:21

that are demographics I sifting rights.

50:23

If we see our struggles as

50:26

disdains, we lose our collective power.

50:28

Collectively we as have a great

50:30

deal of power. so. I

50:32

wish that we would do

50:34

more intersection or analysis, intersection

50:37

or organizing that we will

50:39

realize who are com and

50:41

enemies are and who benefits

50:43

from our separation. Because.

50:47

We. Know who benefits and it

50:49

is not us And I think

50:52

that is why it's so important.

50:54

When I see how you move

50:56

in the world's I see that

50:59

solidarities. Where's ah, Black people? In

51:01

Diaspora, I see you speaking out

51:04

against racism in Latino communities and

51:06

I had to do the same

51:08

thing right? There was a period

51:10

where ninety of them to say

51:12

the name of this group because

51:14

they bring a lot of Charles

51:17

but a native. This Black American

51:19

group that is seeking reparations right

51:21

was vehemently and and viscerally anti

51:23

immigrant and I hope out against

51:25

that. That's when I became a

51:27

target, right? Because I week we

51:29

cannot. We as

51:31

people who have lived at the

51:34

margins are entire existence in the

51:36

United States has to be embracing

51:38

other people at the margins and

51:40

understand the way that. Borders are are

51:42

are false. Know, since that's ah so

51:44

often the reason people want to come

51:46

here is because of empire. It's because

51:48

of American policy that has made life

51:50

in their own countries untenable and we

51:52

want our just ignore all of that.

51:54

were not competing for the same size,

51:57

were all competing for the same stats.

51:59

It's so as. Think we have to talk

52:01

more about that. We have to do more.

52:03

Organized day in and that is the work

52:05

of the journalists, right? The work of a

52:07

journalist is to provide that narrative and that

52:09

understanding that is so also lacking. Well.

52:11

Nicole. I could stay in

52:14

conversation with you. Yes, with the coffee in the tequila

52:16

we're going to make. Sense. But I want

52:18

to leave on a hopeful node and I'm and

52:20

so are. You know you got the wrong one

52:22

for that. Less a sudden it's

52:24

right there has to be. I mean,

52:26

you know that over the pandemic? I

52:29

became a bird watcher. Who would

52:31

have thought right? ssssss? That that is something

52:33

that. Brings me kind of joy. I

52:35

mean, my puppies bring me joy. My

52:37

kids that are you know, stable and

52:39

in love bring me joy. But can

52:41

you just. Tell us one or

52:43

two things that actually bring you joy

52:46

and help you do this work. Cause

52:48

I do see you smiling. You look

52:50

beautiful today. You're here is gorgeous. You've

52:52

got a fabulous pink sweater on. On

52:55

and so something. A couple of things that

52:57

bring. You joy and help you keep on

52:59

doing this work. Okay, I

53:01

can deftly answer that because I am

53:03

a very odd joy of person. The

53:05

work is very. Difficult or

53:08

Molson riding a bow. Really

53:10

painful things, but I I

53:12

really am incredibly blessed. I

53:14

get to read books, top

53:16

the interesting people, and tell

53:18

our story for a living.

53:20

I can't imagine a better

53:22

job than that. You know I have

53:24

a. A. Beautiful sassy twelve year old

53:27

who is my entire life. I

53:29

have a great has been have

53:31

a great collection. Knows I'm collection

53:33

as and com our friends a collection.

53:38

Of such as Gray you know, group of

53:40

friends. And and and really I

53:42

got into the world and.

53:45

I'm at this point in my career where

53:47

people tell me all the time what's the

53:50

word means to them and I never thought

53:52

I would be. You know, again, I'm I'm

53:54

I'm a newspaper reporter. I. Didn't even think

53:56

people would pay attention to my byline, and

53:59

certainly not that they would right ignite me

54:01

when I'm out in public and it's just.

54:03

A firms you know. My father

54:05

was born on a sharecropper farm

54:07

in Mississippi. In I am able to

54:09

do this work on behalf of our people

54:12

and it means something to the people I

54:14

do if for so sometimes my my students

54:16

are other people say you know how do

54:18

you how do you keep going with all

54:20

of the attacks and all of their since

54:22

works in so hard them like is that

54:24

a single day why don't wake up ready

54:26

to do the work that I do Happy

54:28

to do the work. That I do an honor

54:30

to do the work that I do. It's not

54:32

a bird and my life is easy compared to

54:34

so many other people. So. Yes, Joy. Joy.

54:37

The the whole saslow heart of

54:39

a joy sense. Easy. Will

54:42

thank you Nicole Hannah Jones for speaking with

54:44

me on that in the Usa. It's been

54:46

such a pleasure and you've made me rethink

54:49

a couple of think so we're gonna have

54:51

to have this conversation another year and see

54:53

Absolutely or were. but I really appreciate it.

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