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This is Michael Popak, Legal AF starts

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spreading the news, New York, New York,

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right after Rudy Giuliani sang that song

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at his 80th birthday party

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being hosted by his political consultant,

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Carolyn Ren and all around MAGA.

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He got served at the

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party by the Arizona Attorney

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General's office with his criminal

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summons for his felony forgery

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account in the indictment in

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Arizona for being a participant

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in the conspiracy for fake

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electors. Maybe here's, here's, here's an

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interesting pointer. I won't even have

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to put it on Patreon. Don't

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taunt the attorney general with a

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tweet with an ex posting. We'll

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put it up here that basically

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says, come and get me right

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before your party. A party that

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was basically advertised in the New

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York post, which has become

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like a marketing outlet for MAGA

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in which they wrote an entire article the

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day before the party, not only about Rudy

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Giuliani's party, where it was going to be,

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who was, who was hosting it in

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Palm Beach County and Carolyn

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Ren, but his Amazon gift

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registry. I was going to do

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a hot take just on the gift registry, which these

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are the items and there's, I think some of these

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are still available people if you'd like to donate to

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his 80th birthday party. Um, and

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this is a person that's in bankruptcy that

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says he barely has the clothes on his back, although he spends

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$120,000 a month in his personal expenses. Says

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he only has $5,000 in his bank

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account, a couple of credit cards. And

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he wants now people to give to

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him a razor electric razor, uh,

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ceiling paint. He needs, he

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needs paint for his ceiling and he

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put that on his gift registry and

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get this a sure microphone. No, I'm

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not doing an ad for my microphone.

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He's a want to be podcaster. He

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wants a sure microphone, cologne, ceiling paint,

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a razor, a sure microphone. Apparently he

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didn't put on the list a criminal

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summons being served by the Arizona attorney

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general. The report from people in

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the room, there were like a hundred people in this,

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in this. in this home

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for Carolyn Wren and Lake Clark Shores, which

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is in South Palm Beach County, was that

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they were crying. People were crying when he

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was served. And Carolyn Wren posted,

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don't they have anything better to do but

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then to serve America's mayor? Those

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evil Democrats? I don't

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know. Your client,

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Caroline, has been

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indicted twice, has lost his law license

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in two different places, DC and in

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New York. And it's

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part of a criminal conspiracy. I

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don't think that gives him, covers him

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with a lot of glory and lets

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him avoid service. And if you're going

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to avoid service and have a hearing

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scheduled for next week in Arizona by

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the presiding criminal court judge for

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contempt, maybe you shouldn't do, I'm going

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to do my version of it, man,

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you can't get me in social media

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posts. That's not a good idea because

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all that's going to do is fire up civil

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servants and people that serve our democracy and

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they're going to go knock on the door

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of Carolyn Wren where it's been advertised. And

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they're going to serve him right after

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apparently he's saying New York, New York

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and happy birthday was sung. So listen,

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I think they should be given credit.

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The investigators, they waited until the end of the

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party. They waited until after he blew out his

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birthday cake. Right?

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He already got his gifts and

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his gift, like they didn't, they

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didn't seize his, his, his

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ceiling paint or his microphone

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or his razor.

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They let him keep that in the shirt on his back. And

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we're supposed to do boo-hoo for

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Rudy Giuliani because he not only

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didn't arrange like a man, like

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a person with cajones to get himself

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served in a way that was dignified. They

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don't want to do anything that's dignified, Mac.

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Everything's got to be drawn out. Everything's

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got to be a political ad. Everything's

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got to be a witch hunt and

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I'm being persecuted. He was

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the US Attorney for the Southern District

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of New York after the Attorney General

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probably. the most illustrious position in the Department

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of Justice at one time. He was the mayor

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of the city of New York at one time.

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And this is what he's, this is now

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what he's reduced to on his 80th birthday

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party. Dodging service for a second indictment, not

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the first indictment, second indictment of Rudy Giuliani.

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He was almost indicted three times. You

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know, Jack Smith in his DC

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election interference case just barely, just

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barely, avoided indicting him for

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now. Statue of limitations

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hasn't run. He's listed as an unindicted co-conspirator

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along with Donald Trump and four others. He

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could still be indicted by the, by the

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special counsel. And if

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Trump doesn't win in November, which

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is highly unlikely, but if he, if he, it's

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highly unlikely that he wins. If

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he wins, I guess Giuliani is trying to,

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you know, he's doing his part

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to try out for a pardon. You're

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all doing that. You know, who else

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was at the party? Apparently Roger Stone.

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You know again if you want to dodge service,

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there's ways to do it. You know

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I've had difficulty serving some people with

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summonses or search or

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subpoenas or different types of things. There's

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ways to do it. You eventually have

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to you know get a person in

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a van with a box of donuts

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and a carton of cigarettes and have

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them sit on the person until they

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finally surface. You know and then

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boom then you serve them. It happens. It's like Sipowitz

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from NYPD Blue. You put him in a van. He

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sits there with his eight-track player eight-track

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tape player and waits for the person

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to pop out and then boom, served.

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But you know it's just mind-boggling. They do it on

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a purpose. Let's just call it for what it is.

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It's not that Rudy really thought he could dodge

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service or that he'd have a good explanation next

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week for the contempt hearing or the order to

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show cause hearing for why he's not accepting He

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was just going to stretch this thing out as long as

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it was possible. And then when he finally got served, act

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like he'd been crucified. Right? And he

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had the stigmata of Maga on him. Oh,

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oh, I haven't done a thing. I'm just

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a semi-retired Florida man. Come

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on. It's

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not just people that watch this network. Although

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it's definitely the people that watch this network know you're

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full of it. But you know,

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I just, it's the Roger Stones of the

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world, the people like Rudy Giuliani and Roger

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Stone and Steve Bannon, who are either indicted

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and or going to prison. I mean, Steve

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Bannon is about to serve four months. Peter

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Navarro is serving four months for

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serving that president. The

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rest are hoping for pardons.

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You know, that's where they're at right now. You

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know, Mike Flynn got one. Paul

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Manafort got one. Doesn't

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solve a lot of their problems. Doesn't

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solve their state prosecutions in Georgia, for

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instance, where Rudy

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is also a prosecutor and doesn't stop him

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from being prosecuted, convicted or serving time in

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Arizona for his role in the

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fake electors scheme. And if he thinks Arizona is

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his only problems for Rudy and the others, it's

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not. Arizona

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broke the ceiling for the attorney generals by

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indicting not just the

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fake electors. There's been other states that have indicted

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fake electors or have worked out resolutions with

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them. But it's the first

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state to indict, you know, Meadows

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and Jenna Ellis and

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Giuliani all over again. You

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know, Meadows for the first time, you know, Mark

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Meadows skated by in Georgia. We're all shaking our

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head. I'm sorry. He got indicted

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in Georgia, but he skated by in a D.C.

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election interference case. We thought he was a cooperating

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witness, but he's getting indicted by all the states

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and Michigan and Nevada are right behind them with their

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attorney generals. Yeah, the magma

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will say, oh, it's Democratic attorney generals. I

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don't know. When I grew up and I

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went to law school, attorney generals were not political. Attorney

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generals may have been elected on a ticket, but

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they're they're the chief law enforcement officer

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of the state. They got

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a job to do, you know, election. were

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interfered with by MAGA in those states

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