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Hi, Hello, welcome. This
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is let's talk about myths baby, and
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I am your host live she who's
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obsession with Euripides only gets stronger by
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the day. I've loved
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Euripides from the moment I first read his work like
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it was either Arrestes or Electra, I think, And
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then I first read those and I know
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he struck me, you know, just immediately as being
1:01
different, like Euripides cared. I
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find him to be so relatable, not only because his work
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makes clear that he cared about the lived experiences
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of those around him, of like people who weren't
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Athenian men. But the more I
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read of him, the more relatable I find him, Like
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was he like me? Did he see the obvious
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injustices committed by those in
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power against those who are not, and like get
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angry? Like did he see what happened
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and look for any way to help to
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comment on the crimes, to
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make some attempt at creative
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storytelling, to show others what they couldn't
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see. I don't know. He just
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seems relatable. So let's
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return to Euripides's ion, because this play is
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incredible, and quite frankly, it's all that's keeping me from
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crying because I'm writing this episode. On May
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twenty seventh, we
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returned to his Ion, a play that
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has not at all slowly convinced me that not only
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did Euripides care about the lived experiences
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of women, but like maybe he even saw the overtflaws
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in his country's increasingly violent patriarchy.
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This play is, like, honestly, it's a game changer. Maybe
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it's because of when I'm reading it, or it's because
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it's Euripides was empathetic and caring,
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but or maybe he does a little of the two. Either
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way, I don't I really don't think I've ever found
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so much righteous appreciation of an ancient
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work. Criusa,
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you remember, is the daughter of Erectheus. She's
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a princess of Athens, part of the royal family
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whose birth came from the earth of Athens,
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from the very soil of the city. When
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she was young, she was raped
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by Apollo, like so many other women from
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Greek myth but unlike all those women, she had
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Euripides telling her story. She
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was raped and it was awful, and you should take
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care listening to this episode, but you should
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know that for all her trauma is examined
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In this play, that's
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it. That's her trauma is examined.
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It's written as trauma as someone that was
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that something that was utterly life changing, as
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a crime committed not only by a god
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but a man. Display examines
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the crimes of men broadly,
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and the God specifically. Criusa
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and her husband, the man she married after giving
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birth in secret to Apollo's child,
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a child which he hid away in Delphi.
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They've gone there to seek the God's
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prophecy on whether they, as a couple
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will have children. Creusa confided
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in the temple attendant there without her husband's
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knowledge, sharing the story of
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her friend, really
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her story. The attendant was
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of course Ion, her son, who doesn't know
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he's her son. And then God damned Apollo
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when told suit this Creusa's husband
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that Ion was his son. It's a terrible case
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of misunderstandings and messes. Creusa
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has the guidance of a father figure, this man who
3:37
cared for her own father and was like he's known
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her all her life. When he heard that
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her husband now had a secret son, Ah,
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he suggested that the only thing Creusa can
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do is kill both her husband and his
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son, or else they'll plot out to take control
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of Athens. He's not totally
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wrong, but murder is never the answer.
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This is a difficult play to summarize, especially
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right now. You best just have listened to the
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past three episodes before this one. Okay,
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this is episode two
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sixty three. When the Pythia
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speaks. You listen. Euripides
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is Ion part four. Creusa
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speaks to Apollo. She doesn't know how
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to proceed, doesn't know what to
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do with her life now that her childlessness
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has been confirmed, now that her husband
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has been given a son by the very
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god that raped her. She doesn't know how
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to handle a world that is quite so unjust
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so relatable, Creusa. So
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she continues her song It's part soliloquy,
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part plea for help, as she speaks
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aloud of how to go on after
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this new use. So, as she turns
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her attention to Apollo, she
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begins, quote, you were
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crooning to the tune of the seven stringed
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lie, which, in the lifeless horns
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of beasts that rove the fields,
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sounds the melodious songs of the muses.
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It's not lost on me that she speaks such seemingly
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beautiful words before addressing Apollo, before
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she makes the clearest and most graphic accusations
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against the god. And this is
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graphic, so please take care and skip ahead
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if you need to. I want to read Creosa's
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quote because for all it's horrifying,
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I just think it's incredibly important to have this piece
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of evidence that it wasn't just like accepted
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that the gods assaulted people, that they didn't
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just think it was fine and good because they were
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a god and the victims were usually women,
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That people did recognize it as trauma,
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that they did see the horror in the gods.
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And the way is that even the mythos
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could affect real people in the real world.
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So Creusa speaks to Apollo. She recalls
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what he did to her quote,
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you came to me, your hair gleaming
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with gold, when I was gathering in my
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lap saffron strands reflecting
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the golden rays. You took me
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by my white wrists to lie on the
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floor of the cave as I cried a
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loud mother. Mother, you
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a rapist and a god. You brought me
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to shame doing your part in service
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to Love's goddess Kippris. She
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cried out to her mother, and
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that again is intentional legally,
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it would be her father who could have helped her father
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whose property was being harmed,
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and that's the point she called
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out to her mother, because, as Euripides has examined
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throughout this play, mothers are there for affection,
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mothers are there to console. And
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again I intentionally generalize because
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of how this play is written, but I want to be clear that
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fathers can do and should serve
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the same role as mothers, but from a sociological
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standpoint, and certainly here in Eurybites' play,
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it's the maternal mothering nature
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that is being highlighted. And
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it's reminded again when Creusa
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goes on to explain that she had cast
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out the baby out of quote
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a mother's fear. She
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says she laid the baby in Apollo's bed,
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exactly where it had happened, because
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despite it being a tragic event, despite
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it being something awful, Creosa
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exposing this child, we are meant
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to understand, We are meant to
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feel sympathy for her, to recognize that
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she had gone through a trauma and did the only thing
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she, presumably a teenager
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could think of. She
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laments the loss of the baby, accuses
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Apollo of droning on and on
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with his songs. Even as their son is lost,
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she continues to brate Apollo
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while standing before his temple, and
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I am fucking here for it. She
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calls him a vile seducer. She attacks
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him for giving her husband a son when her own
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child is lost and gone, probably
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pray for birds. She even
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tells him the daily his sacred
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island and the place of his birth hates
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him. Creusa isn't
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afraid of the god. He's already done his worst.
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She doesn't fear his wrath, and so she
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can tell Apolo exactly how it feels.
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She can and is voicing the words
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of so many women of myth.
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She's saying what they all wish they could
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have, because your ripidies actually wants
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to hear their voices. The
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old man, Crius's friend and father
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figure, has heard her words, but he can't
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quite believe what she said. He needs
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to be sure, what are you saying happened?
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What child did you give birth to? And what
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is the charge you're leveling against Apollo.
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Criusa says that though she's ashamed,
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she will tell him, and that shame cuts
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so deep, so real, This whole
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place is just so fucking real. The
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old man reassures her too. He tells her to
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share her story, that he is good
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at grieving with those he loves,
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So she tells him. She tells him about the cave
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of the Long Rocks. She tells him
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that it was there that she tried to fend off
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Apollo, but that she couldn't, that
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he forced her, and
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he he remembers. This
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kind old man who's known Creusa her
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entire life, remembers not
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the assault. He didn't know about that, but
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he'd noticed that she'd changed.
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He'd noticed that she grieved something
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he didn't understand, and he
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remembers it. She
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tells him that she gave birth, and when he asks
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who helped her where it happened, she
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tells him that she did it alone, in the very
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same place where she was raped. My
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heart fucking aches, But oh, does it
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feel overwhelming love for your ibities
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for writing this, forgiving a fuck
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with this man too. He is presenting a kind
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of alternative to suit this men.
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He's showing can care about
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these plights of women, especially
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when their control, their possessions
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aren't at risk. This man
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has nothing. He's been enslaved to Creus
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his family, so he's not struggling
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for power, he's
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working on pure empathy, and
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he keeps asking questions. He wants to know
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everything. He wants to understand everything
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that Creusa went through. Once
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again contrasting suit this who
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may not have known anything about this part of Creus's
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life, but Who's made it very clear that he's not interested
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in asking after other people's lived
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experiences, only his own.
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When the old man asks, Creusa tells
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him. She tells him that no one knew but
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the birth, That no one knew but the child
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she left in the cave. He
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asks her how she could do it, how she could
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leave him, and it doesn't feel accusatory,
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but a sincere question that is sincerely
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answered. Creusa replies, quote,
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how crying my heart out
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in pitiful sobs, she
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didn't have anything else she could do. She couldn't keep
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the baby. No one could know what happened. They
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would never believe a god had fathered
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the child, and so she would be branded
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ruined, probably thrown out from her
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home. The baby probably in the end
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would have died anyway. And she keeps
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talking about it, this sadness and
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the heartbreak that she'd had when she had
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to do it, how the baby had reached
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out to her, suffered when she
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couldn't reach back, And
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she shares another secret that it
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was her hope that the God would have saved
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the child, That she hadn't wanted
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him to die, but she couldn't have cared
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for him herself. The
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God stepping in to save his child
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was her only hope. She lives in
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a world in which she couldn't have done anything
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else, and Euripides is shoving it down the throats
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of the Athenian men and his audience. It's
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no wonder that this is one of his alphabet plays,
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one of his plays that didn't become famous
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and that wasn't taught in schools. This play
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forces its viewers to face some harsh,
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fucking truths about the world in which they
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lived perfectly happy and free,
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but where women, let alone everyone
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else had nothing of the sort.
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When the old man starts crying, lamenting,
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Creusa asks him why he's
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he's hurt. Seeing her hurt, he
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tells her that she should gave revenge on
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the god who wronged her, and when she asks
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how she, as a mortal, could
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possibly harm the God, he says
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quote, set fire
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to the venerable oracle of Loxius,
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burn the oracle to the ground,
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he's suggesting, but
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Crius is afraid, too afraid to
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do something so dramatic, so
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instead, again he suggests that she kill
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her husband. No, she
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says she still respects him. He was once
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a good man. Okay,
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the old man says, then kill the child who
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threatens your place. That
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she's keen on. This is still a Greek
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myth after all, and actually I should
13:18
have said this earlier. But this is a happy ending,
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Like if you like me right now, need a happy ending.
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This has a happy ending, and
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this is a Greek myth. So we're gonna have some
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drama before we get there. So you
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know this this Chreu says, keen
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on, this is still a Greek myth. We have to get some
13:33
intrigue before the big reveal. She's got to want
13:35
to kill her own child before she can learn that he
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is indeed her own child. How
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would she do it? Though? The old
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man suggests giving her women swords,
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which I fucking love. But Chriusa
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does it. She thinks it's a bit much. Well,
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he's going to be at the feast held by her husband.
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The old man says, you could do it there. She's
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unsure of that too, and he gets a little frustrated
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by her hesitance. But she isn't
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giving up. She tells him that she does have something that might
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work. He's willing to be her accomplice,
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he says, if she tells him what her
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plan is. And so here we get
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to the reason I picked up this play that has
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changed my life for the better. Here in part
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four, Creus asks
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the old man if he knows of the quote
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Battle of the earth Born.
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Yes, he says, quote in which the
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giants made a stand against the gods
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at Flegria. There,
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Chreusa tells him quote Earth
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gave birth to the Gorgon, dire
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monster. He
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knows the story. It was Earth's attempt to
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help her earth born giant children in their battle
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with the Olympians, exactly,
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Criusa says, quote, and Zeus's
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daughter, the goddess Palace, killed
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her. Oh, is that the story?
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The old man clarifies, is that the story he'd
14:50
heard so long ago. Athena
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wears the gorgon on her armor, Creus ads
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her aegis, he clarifies, and
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what does it look like? He asks. She
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tells him, Quote a breastplate
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armored with the coils of a viper.
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The gorgon egis Athena is shield
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where the fearful face sits, forever
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immortal. And if you're listening
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to me thinking live, what are you talking about? That isn't
15:16
the story of Medusa? And it's Medusa's
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head in Athena's shield. Well,
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we'll get back to that first.
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This gorgon's blood is special. When
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the old man asks how this will help them
15:28
kill the boy, Creusa tells him that her ancestor
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athens is founding king born of the Earth
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of Athens, Ericthonius, when
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he was born Athena gave him a
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gift. Quote two drops
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of the gorgon's blood.
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And what does that do? He asks? Quote
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one is lethal, the other an antidote
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to diseases. Creusa
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tells him that she carries these two drops of blood
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on her always in two gold bracelets
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passed down by her father. How
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does it work, he asks. Crius
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explains one type of gorgon
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blood came from a vein. The
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antidote keeps illnesses away and
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can even save a life, and
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the other, the other drop of blood is
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from the Gorgan's snakes. It's
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venom poison. She
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explains that she wears them separate, they
16:21
can't be mixed together. Well,
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then the old man concludes, you've got
16:26
everything you need. Yes,
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Creusa confirms, this is how the boy
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will die, and you'll be the one to do it. They
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continue to plan they'll do it when they return
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to Athens. When he arrives at her home. Oh,
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that's not a great idea, he tells her. Everyone
16:41
will assume you did it, even if you don't.
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You're right, creusagrees. Quote
16:47
everybody says stepmothers hate their step
16:49
children. Kill
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him here in Delphi. The old man suggests, then
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you can keep yourself out of it, and
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it will be finished so much sooner. Crius
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adds, well, you know what to
17:00
do. Then, Creusa tells him. She gives
17:02
him the gold bracelets and tells him to go
17:04
to her husband's feast for his new son. When
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they go to Poor Libay, to the gods, he can
17:09
pour the poison into the boy's drink. She
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clarifies, though, that he should insure
17:15
to keep the venom away from everybody
17:17
else. She only wants the boy dead.
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He poses not only a threat, but a constant
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reminder of her own trauma, her own
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inability to have a child to love
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after the loss of her own. The
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old man agrees with her plan. He tells her to
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go inside the guesthouse where she'll be staying.
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He'll handle the task that they've just discussed.
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Chrisa leaves, and before he goes
17:39
off, he speaks of what he intends to do
17:41
and notes quote for the
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prosperous, it is a fine thing to
17:45
respect piety, but if one wishes
17:48
to do harm to one's enemies, there is
17:50
no law or custom that stands
17:52
in our way. Rich
17:54
people can do whatever they want, he's
17:56
basically saying, and God's if
17:58
that isn't far too real. Rich
18:01
people can keep bombing children, keep burning
18:03
innocent refugees in a safe
18:05
zone that they told them to flee to, so just
18:07
so long as they keep getting richer. The
18:40
chorus sings of Hecate and
18:42
Persephone. Really a goddess
18:44
that combines the two quote
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Enodia of the Crossroads, Daughter
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of Demeter, you are queen of assaults
18:52
that come at night and now during
18:54
the day, guide the filling of
18:56
the deadly drinking cup against those
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whom my mistress aims them with drops
19:01
from the earth born Gorgon slit
19:04
throat against the man trying
19:06
to lay siege to the house of
19:08
the Erek. That I they
19:11
sing to this goddess, asking that no foreigner
19:13
come to Athens to take over, that
19:16
no one but Athenians born of its soil
19:18
may take up the role of leader. There's
19:22
a lot going on here. I'm trying. I can't
19:24
provide any more commentary. They sing
19:26
of their mistress of Creusa
19:28
and the grief they know she will feel
19:31
if this fails. They sing
19:33
of her loss, that she would likely take
19:35
her own life just to save herself
19:37
the suffering if this plan doesn't
19:40
work. It's a metaphor, though
19:42
really they don't seem afraid she'd actually
19:44
do it, but instead of what would
19:46
come over her if she had to live the new
19:48
life. In their minds, Ion
19:51
seems to have become a kind of stand in for
19:53
Apollo, the god who hurt Creusas
19:55
so badly, then gave her husband
19:57
a son and her nothing. They
20:00
can't see past the hurt and the anger. They
20:03
sing of the way they'd feel if the boy were
20:05
to live in Athens or to witness its festivals,
20:08
and celebrations. They
20:10
sing to those who criticize women for
20:12
their marriages. They sing of flipping
20:15
the switch on those who demoralize
20:17
women, who blame them for things they have no control
20:19
over. Quote. Let the song
20:22
be sung in reverse, and the muse
20:24
sing out of tune against men for
20:26
their heedless couplings. Sing
20:31
Muse of the crimes of men.
20:35
They sing of Apollo, how he's abandoned
20:37
his son and showed such ingratitude
20:40
to a woman he wronged so horribly.
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A servant eventually joins the chorus
20:46
on stage. He's looking for Creusa.
20:49
They've been caught found out.
20:51
He tells them that the authorities of Delphi
20:54
are searching for her, that they intend to put
20:56
her to death. When the chorus
20:58
asks, the servant shares his story.
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There is always a messenger speech. Remember
21:03
to share the moments that happen off stage.
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And what's happened off stage was
21:08
the feat. He
21:11
describes Suitus's actions, how
21:13
he went off to pay his respects to
21:15
the gods and left Ion to put together
21:17
the feast, or watch over the
21:20
servants who would put together to the feast. Really,
21:22
he tells them of the process, how they erected
21:24
a tent to keep away the afternoon sun
21:27
and its heat. How they prepared the space
21:29
exactly as the gods require. How
21:31
he brought in sacred offerings from the
21:33
treasuries. He tells them
21:35
of how they adorned the tent, How there
21:38
were offerings made by Heracles,
21:40
things he'd taken from the amazons.
21:43
How the fabric had stories woven
21:45
into it, Helios in his sun,
21:47
Chariot, Night in her own, the
21:49
Pleiades in the sky. How the constellations
21:52
of the sky were woven into this fabric.
21:55
He tells us of the rest of the tent,
21:57
how its walls were made of offerings
21:59
from other city states, how the daughters
22:02
of Erectheus were on one.
22:04
He tells them of the dinner, how it had all
22:06
taken place, how it was decorated, and
22:08
how fine the food was. Then
22:11
he tells of what happened. This
22:14
servant, this messenger, says that after
22:16
everyone had eaten, the old man came
22:18
to serve the party. He tells
22:20
them how the revelers laughed at him, how
22:23
he poured water and lit incense, how
22:25
he took charge of the festivities and prepared
22:28
the drinks, replacing old cups for
22:30
new ones. He tells of how
22:32
the old man handed the boy a very specific
22:34
cup, how the cup and the wine within
22:37
it had been tainted with the Gorgon's
22:39
venomous blood. He tells
22:41
them that the boy Ion had heard
22:43
a servant saying some inauspicious
22:46
word and took it as an omen. He'd
22:48
been so long working for the god, he was
22:50
always prepared for signs. He
22:53
requested a new cup of wine because
22:55
of the omen, and he poured the other on the
22:57
ground as a libation for the gods.
23:00
He instructed everyone to do the same, and
23:02
then the cups were refilled with a special
23:04
wine, a sweet wine from Thrace.
23:07
He told them that as this was happening,
23:09
a flock of doves flew down
23:11
from Apollo's temple, and, as
23:13
they were thirsty, set out to
23:15
drink some of the wine that had been spilled
23:18
on the ground. He tells them
23:20
about how only the birds who drank
23:22
from the boys spilled wine died,
23:25
how they didn't just die, but horribly
23:27
and painfully. This
23:29
was how they caught the old man, how they knew he'd
23:32
poisoned Ion's cup, How the people
23:34
forced him to tell the story that only
23:36
under compulsion he gave up the truth that
23:39
it was Creusa who'd ordered him to do it.
23:42
He tells them how Ion had come out of
23:44
the celebration and spoken to the crowd,
23:46
that he'd made the claim against Creusa,
23:48
and announced that the whole of Delphi
23:51
was looking for her, that she came
23:53
there on a tragic search for answers,
23:55
and quote from Phoebus,
23:57
she acquired a longing for children
24:00
and now has lost her life and the
24:02
hope of children with it. The
24:18
chorus sings of inescapable
24:21
death, how they will face it
24:23
alongside Creusa. They
24:25
sing of Dionysus's wine mixing
24:28
with the blood of snakes. They
24:30
sing of escape, attempts to avoid
24:32
death. Maybe they could find a chariot
24:35
or a ship, but they add quote,
24:38
there is no way to hide unless a god
24:40
decides to spirit one away from
24:42
the scene. This
24:44
is, of course, meant to make us think
24:47
not only of them, but of ionto how
24:49
this was how he avoided death. Even
24:51
if the play's characters don't yet understand
24:54
that. They sing of Creusa,
24:56
of the suffering that she now faces,
24:59
and they sing of violence. They acknowledge
25:01
their role in wishing harm on their neighbor,
25:04
and how there will be justice for it. And
25:07
again it is inten that it is
25:09
these women who acknowledge their mistake,
25:12
that their actions and goals were wrong,
25:14
and that they should face consequences for
25:16
those actions. They don't try
25:18
to deny it or justify it, or
25:20
say that it was a mistake. It
25:23
happened, and they helped. It's
25:26
then that Creusa returns. She speaks
25:28
immediately of what they face, how the
25:30
people of Delphi want them dead. We
25:34
know. They tell her quote what
25:36
troubles fortune has left you in?
25:40
Creusa speaks of escaping. Could
25:42
she do it? She barely got out of the home
25:45
where she was staying. She had to keep hidden.
25:47
The chorus, though, has an idea. They
25:49
tell her that she must go to the altar of Apollo
25:52
and that there she will be a suppliant
25:54
to the God. That won't stop her
25:56
from being killed. Creusa acknowledges, but
25:59
the chorus explains that it will at
26:01
least curse those who dare to
26:03
kill her on the altar to the god.
26:06
So she does. She rushes to the altar and takes
26:09
her place as a suppliant. And
26:11
this is when Ion, with armed people
26:13
of Delphi, find her. Ion
26:18
is well. He is rightly angry. He
26:20
calls Creusa a viper, describes
26:22
her eyes red and flashing
26:24
like a snake's. He speaks
26:26
of what she attempted quote, her
26:29
daring knows no bounds, and she's
26:31
as potent as the gorgon's blood
26:33
with which she meant to kill me. He
26:37
calls for her to be taken, speaks of how
26:39
she'll be hurled from the cliffs of Parnassus.
26:41
He talks about how he's lucky that it happened
26:44
there in Delphi and not in Athens.
26:46
There he has friends, there, he will
26:48
have justice. He tells Creusa
26:50
then that the altar of Apollo won't
26:53
save her. That quote, any
26:55
pity for you belongs more to me
26:58
and my mother. She may not be
27:00
with me in person, but the name of Mother
27:03
is never far from my heart.
27:06
They fight over Apollo, or
27:10
who is his and who is not. Creusa
27:13
is pledging herself to the god there at
27:15
his altar in this attempt to save her life.
27:17
Ion, though, sees the god at his as his father.
27:20
Even when Creusa speaks of him belonging
27:22
to a new father to Suthus, Ion
27:25
insists his real father is Apollo.
27:28
He's no longer Apollos. She says
27:31
that's why she wanted him dead. He was
27:33
going to be an enemy to her, someone invading
27:35
her home. He tells her that he
27:37
wasn't heading to Athens with an army and that he
27:40
wasn't planning to invade, but
27:42
she can't see that. She says he'd planned
27:44
to quote set fire to
27:46
the house of Erectheus. Where
27:49
is the fire? Ion asks, do you
27:51
see any evidence that I want to harm the
27:53
home? They keep talking,
27:56
speaking of Creus's fears and what she was
27:58
prepared to do as she
28:00
saw it, to defend herself and her
28:02
home, her city. They speak
28:04
of the land that Xuthus intended
28:06
to give to Ion says, that's
28:09
all he would have taken. But to Creusa,
28:12
that wasn't Xuthus's to give.
28:14
It's Athenian land he won by helping
28:17
them in a war and marrying their princess.
28:19
It isn't his to give. There's
28:22
no land for me and my father, Ion asks.
28:25
She tells him Caxuthus is basically a mercenary.
28:27
That it's a shield and spear he can give to
28:29
his son, not the land of Athens.
28:34
Ion orders her to leave Apollo's
28:36
temple and she tells him, quote,
28:39
give that advice to your mother, whoever
28:41
she is. And
28:43
finally it comes out when Ion asks
28:45
her if she won't face the consequences for what
28:47
she tried to do. She says that she will, but
28:49
it will happen on the God's doorstep,
28:52
that it will happen right there. And
28:54
when he asks if she gets some kind of thrill
28:56
from dying alongside the God,
28:59
that's when she tells him, quote, I
29:01
will grieve someone by whom I
29:04
have been grieved at
29:07
this Ion la the system,
29:09
the world they live in. He says
29:12
it's not fair that someone who's committed
29:14
a crime can hide by an altar,
29:16
that it's not right for someone like that to
29:18
touch things that belong to the gods.
29:21
He says that it isn't right that someone
29:23
who's committed a crime can be on equal
29:26
footing in the holy space.
29:28
Quote the good and the evil
29:31
going to the same altar ought
29:33
not to have equal protection from
29:35
the gods. And
29:38
this is when the Pythia herself, the
29:40
woman who shares the God's prophecies,
29:43
comes out of the temple and speaks
29:45
to Ion. He greets her
29:47
as a mother, even if she didn't give birth to him,
29:49
she's the closest thing he's had to one. She
29:52
tells him that he's wrong to blame Creusa,
29:55
quite so strongly, wrong to be so
29:57
unforgiving of her. The Pithia
29:59
speaks of the relationships between children
30:02
and stepmothers, how the latter
30:04
are so often hostile.
30:06
What she doesn't say is why, because women
30:09
in that world are defined by their children.
30:11
It is a real and tangible threat.
30:13
When there are children by their husbands and
30:16
other women, it isn't petty
30:18
jealousy, but real and deadly threats.
30:22
And it's the Pithea, another woman, another
30:25
mother figure, who's going to talk him down.
30:27
She tells him to be more forgiving, to understand
30:30
better where Creusa is coming from. She
30:32
may not break down the reasoning, but she feels
30:34
for Creusa, and well
30:37
she knows things. She tells them to leave Apollo's
30:39
temple and that it's time for him to go to the land
30:42
of his father. She tells
30:44
him to go to Athens without guilt, and when
30:46
he says that people who kill their enemies are
30:48
guiltless, she disagrees. She
30:51
tells them to listen very closely to
30:53
take in what she is going to say. Quote
30:56
do you see this basket I'm holding in my arms?
31:00
Sure, Ion says, I see that it's
31:02
old and decorated. She
31:04
tells him that this was the basket she found
31:06
him in as a newborn. Tells him
31:09
that she's kept secrets and is now
31:11
shining a light on them. She
31:13
tells him when he asks, that she hid the
31:15
truth because the God wanted it, because
31:17
he wanted Ion to serve him. She
31:20
tells him that this has ended, that by
31:22
telling Ion of his father, he was sending
31:24
him away. She tells him that the
31:26
basket still holds the clothes
31:29
he wore as a baby when he arrived
31:31
in Delphi for her to care for. And
31:33
when Ion asks if this is her
31:36
way of helping him look for his mother, she
31:38
tells him that the God wanted the truth hidden
31:40
before, but he doesn't now. She
31:43
gives him the basket, tells him to take
31:45
it and look for his mother. Her
31:48
story with him is finished. She's done as
31:51
the God ordered, and so the Pithia
31:53
leaves Ion with tears brimming
31:56
in his eyes, and
31:58
Creusa was of course watching
32:01
all of this. Ion
32:15
speaks to himself about his mother.
32:17
He speaks of his lost childhood.
32:19
All the things he missed out on, how he never
32:22
felt his mother's love. He speaks
32:24
of how she too is suffering
32:26
for the same reasons. He
32:28
speaks of everything he was deprived of, and
32:30
he considers offering the basket
32:32
to Apollo, of just giving it away before
32:35
he can find out anything that he doesn't want
32:37
to know, but he snaps out of
32:39
it just in time, recalling that the Pythia told
32:41
him so specifically that this was a secret
32:43
that had to be found out.
32:46
So he opens the basket and pulls out what's
32:48
inside sacred wrappings
32:51
and offerings. He pulls out his
32:53
baby clothes, how they're in perfect condition
32:55
despite all the time that they'd
32:57
sat waiting, And of
33:00
course this is when Chriusus sees
33:02
what he's holding. Quote what
33:04
is this apparition? I see beyond
33:06
my wildest dream? He
33:09
tells her to shut up, she's already caused
33:11
enough trouble, but she won't.
33:14
This is not the time for silence, she tells him. Quote,
33:16
I see the carrier in which many
33:19
years ago I placed you, oh
33:21
my child, when you were still a newborn
33:23
baby, at the cave of key crops,
33:26
and under the ledge of the long rocks.
33:28
I shall leave the sanctuary of this altar.
33:31
Even if I must die,
33:34
Ion thinks she's been given some kind of madness
33:37
from Apollo. He has her restrained.
33:41
She tells him that he can kill her if he wants.
33:44
Quote, I will take hold of this
33:46
and you and what is hidden inside
33:48
that belongs to you. Ion
33:52
laments what's happened. Quote I am
33:54
seized as property by trickery.
33:58
There's that word again, property, But
34:00
she tells him quote no, but
34:03
you are found dear to those who
34:05
love you. Meanwhile,
34:07
South has told him that he you should love to suit this. That was
34:09
basically the only thing he said. Because
34:12
for the hundredth time, she is not her husband. She seeks
34:14
a child to love and to care
34:17
for, not property to
34:19
possess. She tells him
34:21
how dear he is to her, even as
34:24
he calls her a liar, but
34:26
she can prove it. Ion
34:28
begins pulling things out of the basket as
34:31
Creusa names what's inside. It's
34:33
her test. She tells him to look for a piece
34:36
that she wove as a child, that it
34:38
was unfinished, but it had quote a
34:40
gorgon in the center of the garments
34:42
fabric. They
34:45
speak of the gorgon's image that she wove,
34:47
how it looked just like Athena's aegis.
34:50
Creusa keeps naming the items inside
34:52
the basket, and Ion keeps pulling them
34:54
out and confirming her right. She
34:56
tells him of the ornaments she gave
34:59
to the newborn, what they were, and
35:01
how they served to honor his birth.
35:03
She tells him that she had put a garland
35:05
of olive around him quote
35:08
and if it's there, it has never lost
35:10
its fresh green color, but still flourishes
35:13
because it's from an incorruptible
35:15
olive. And
35:19
this is it. This is enough for Ion.
35:21
He pulls her into a hug, calling her
35:23
mother and telling her how happy he is
35:26
to have found her. She tells him
35:28
that he is a light brighter
35:30
than the sun. She tells him that she
35:32
thought he was dead, that she's so happy
35:34
to hold him in her arms. He tells
35:36
her that in her arms he feels as though
35:39
he's moving between the world of the living
35:41
and that of the dead. They hug
35:43
and kiss and speak of how happy
35:46
they are, how relieved and full
35:48
of joy. Ion
35:50
tells her quote, for me, mother,
35:52
anything was likely to have happened rather
35:55
than this, that I am yours.
35:58
He's offering himself
36:00
to her. He's hers not
36:03
because it's the law, or because she can
36:05
wield power over him. He's hers because
36:07
of love and affection. Creusa
36:11
tells him, quote, my child,
36:13
your birth was full of tears. You were
36:15
parted from your mother's arms amid
36:17
cries of anguish. But now
36:20
my lips pressed to your cheeks, I
36:22
draw breath, feeling a most
36:24
sublime pleasure. But
36:27
when she speaks of being no longer childless,
36:30
how she's been blessed, and the line
36:32
of Athens will continue. This
36:35
is when he mentions his father, or
36:37
who he believes to be his father, Suthus,
36:40
and so Criusa has to tell him the truth. She
36:42
tells him that he has a different father,
36:45
that there was no wedding celebration.
36:48
She calls on Athena to help, but
36:51
calls her the Gorgon killer. She
36:53
has trouble getting it out, speaking in these confused
36:56
half sentences. As she slowly
36:58
gets the information out that
37:00
his father is Apollo,
37:03
she tells him that it was the work of her girlhood
37:05
that she had wrapped him in when she was born,
37:08
things she made as a child,
37:10
because she was a child, when Apollo
37:13
made her a mother, She
37:15
tells him what she did, how she meant
37:17
to kill him, but that it was
37:19
against her will. He replies
37:22
by reminding her that she almost died
37:24
by his hands. Creusa
37:27
speaks of their bad fortune, how their fates
37:29
have been twisted, how it just keeps twisting.
37:32
But she hopes that now it's over, that they've
37:34
been through enough. Ion,
37:36
though, has to be sure. He pulls her
37:38
to the side so he can whisper to her and asks
37:41
if she's lying, if she's trying to cover up for something
37:43
else that would have shamed her. That
37:46
she's saying he's the son of Apollo, maybe to cover
37:48
up the secret. So she swears
37:50
on everything she has that it was Apollo
37:53
who fathered him, and
37:55
so the oracle is clarified. When
37:57
Ion asks why Apoulo would say that he was
38:00
xuth as his son, Creusa notes that
38:02
that wasn't what he said. He said he
38:04
was giving Ion as a gift to soothe
38:06
this. Criso explains
38:09
that in doing so, the god has helped Ion
38:11
that without a father to claim, he wouldn't
38:13
have anything, wouldn't inherit what is
38:16
rightly his? Through Creusa by
38:18
saying Suthus is his father Apollo
38:21
is giving him what is his right by birth,
38:24
because yeah, Euripides is also going to throw
38:26
in a bit of commentary on how lineage doesn't
38:28
pass through mothers to their children even
38:30
when their princess is born of Athenian
38:33
soil. Ion
38:36
hasn't ready to be done with it, though. He He wants
38:38
to go inside and just like ask Apollo for
38:40
himself, but he's stopped
38:43
because Athena is here. Instead. She
38:45
appears on the roof of the temple, hovering
38:47
with the help of that diosex machina,
38:50
that crane that serves
38:52
to hold the gods above the mortals on the
38:54
ancient stage. She's
38:57
there to set the record straight. She tells
38:59
him she's there with this message from Apollo.
39:01
She confirms the Ion is indeed
39:03
his son, and that he's been given to Xuthus
39:06
as a gift for all the reasons Creusas
39:08
say. She directs her words then
39:10
to Creusa and tells her to
39:12
bring Eye on to Athens to seat him
39:14
there on the throne of Erectheus, at
39:16
his rightful place as an Athenian born
39:19
of its soil. She tells him of what's
39:21
to come, how he will give his name to the Ionian
39:24
people how it all happened,
39:26
and why she takes the guilt
39:28
away from Apollo, which is disappointing
39:30
but unsurprising and likely a necessary
39:32
thing in order for this play to actually be staged,
39:36
And so Creusa forgives him because
39:38
he brought her son back to her.
39:56
Well, Nerd, thank you so much for listening.
39:59
As always, this episode
40:01
was very long. I had to keep all of your
40:03
ibides' words. This play is too good.
40:06
I had planned to talk with the Gorgon in
40:08
this piece, because she is such a unique
40:11
Gorgan, but I will have to wait.
40:13
I have travel coming up like tomorrow,
40:15
and had too much to write and record, and
40:18
I've done it in between witnessing the horrors
40:20
perpetrated by Western civilization. This
40:23
love between a mother and her child was
40:25
just. It was particularly hard to read
40:27
after I watched Tents and a Refugee
40:29
Can't Burn camp
40:31
full of sheltering families who'd gone
40:34
to the safe zone just as they were told
40:36
to do, mothers who
40:38
watched their children burn alive. They
40:41
said it was a mistake, but the next
40:43
day they used helicopters to shoot civilians
40:45
trying to escape a hospital. So I
40:48
don't know how anyone can
40:50
believe them, like, is this if this is how
40:52
we as a civilization respond to
40:54
the deaths of innocent Western
40:56
civilians by burning
40:59
babies alive and killing five times
41:01
as many children. I
41:04
just I don't know what else to say.
41:08
I won't to review today. Thank you for all
41:10
of them, but I just I can't read words of praise
41:12
for myself right now. Be
41:16
mad. I don't know. I'm feeling
41:18
too despared to be mad at this moment,
41:20
but I will be later and you can do it too.
41:24
We can't. We can't let them convince
41:27
us that this was necessary. We
41:30
can't. Let's talk about myths.
41:32
Maybe is written and produced by me Live Albert
41:34
Nikayla Smith is my assistant producer.
41:36
Laura Smith is the production assistant and audio
41:39
engineer. Select music in this episode
41:41
was by Luke Chaos. The podcast
41:44
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41:52
ever thought about giving me money, you should give
41:55
it to Palestine
41:57
instead, Palatinian Children's Relief
41:59
Fund, maybe ANRA. Anyway,
42:05
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42:10
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