Megan Corse is a Chicago-based actress.

Phil Circle is her husband.

They take walks and talk about stuff. This time, they recorded their conversation.

They talk about the need to never stop learning and what it means to be entrepreneurs in the arts. They talk about collaboration. 

Then Megan shares her experience as a woman of mixed race. She relates some stories about bartending in a small town in Wisconsin near where she grew up. She relates the insights she gained related to opening dialogue where there was real potential for greater rifts and even hatred. 

If you care about creating dialogue as a pathway to healing rifts and bringing people closer together, please listen to this episode carefully.

Here are Phil and Megan having a little fun with a box-opening video for Phil's book.

This was recorded while walking through Chicago's Rogers Park and West Ridge neighborhoods, ending up in Indian Boundary Park.

It was Saturday, August 3rd, 2019.

Have a look at Phil Circle's video What's Your ID? about the identity of the artist, from the Hey Coach playlist of his YouTube page.

If you're enjoying Phil Circle's discussions, check out his award-winning book,

The Outback Musician's Survival Guide: One Guy's Story of Surviving as an Independent Musician, available in all formats.