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value but security right three days else
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loves me
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oh hang out and i am
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healthy or one thousand and
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please look the have absolutely no idea
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what is i have absolutely
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no idea what he's capable of what
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is he capable of steam ,
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you could always made me wonder what he wanted to
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all right he
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said his mother's
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, with
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and what you wanna do
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go to guy
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oh cool
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what
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you gonna say my mom is shipped himself
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out of her classes
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what are you going to do
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you have enough
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new set of
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so i think you'd have hawken i think he's com
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the same old houses and she
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mentions of of the stuff in them
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and are also suffocating
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know some mode has nukes or the
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cameroon a
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, bird nail on the
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day maya
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the only made me
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you hear that
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i do want out
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i know
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the trigger
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right now
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denise is , possible
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she's gone within willingly people
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change she never remarry this may
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be sitting may be the
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new day
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the around
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the ring back room family
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man
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coding
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no human for months in the facts
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here in the house and it's is daves
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data at never in front of naples
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hamilton anymore i think we
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will watch and atheist and on sort
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of snow globe them on a saturday and access
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to my mom
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located
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who recognize and
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the i said i love
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you have and she says
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i'm , watch tv tv
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then he says kono enough me and
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says as much okay i'll have you noticed
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calmly walked and then
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the north american
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no us army knife and
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no benefit of new host play in
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the throat and and so the lesson
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until athenian on scares and
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, says says and
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honey have a nice man many anthony
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sword see
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on the whole reason for then it
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moves and not see something change
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in my mom
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in about her eyes something that goes
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hard enough
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i'm on
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and
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he could you know
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the human race as to avenge tiny
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the a corner and some our
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or know
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i know she's gonna kick him out right
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the the net
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and the same shoes
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the thing you hook fantasy
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and he walked out the front all down the
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street and and never see him again not
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until last week
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that was hammered out
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the house i'm sure that
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the beating
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the
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looking good
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my you can you go the fastest interviews
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are used
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good on human i encourage
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, was kind of and ,
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had a described
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and when it's released
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what have you been
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i know i thought we should be calling for backup
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ladies a good round of the swat team a forensic
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accountants onto the
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hi know
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and a new for windows
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no an indication of check
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on the buff you with here all right
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i don't have anyone
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inside has no signs of life from the families
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of those a guy next door
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clearly think i'm trying to rob the play
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an ear hey chairman
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of the neighborhood watch much as
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coming
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don't hold your breath if you who are depressed
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yeah yeah
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hot here any the
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ground floor before they go up okay
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the basement
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not what
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about the backroom
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i as i said nc
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oh my
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nothing
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i'm i'm
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i'm with a eight years together
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for my mom's been here ever since change
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much
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did you hear that
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connie you anything us what
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are some
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no vision think that's
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cool
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you check that months who
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took this
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to be my room
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when i was locked in here at
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emory good and
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i'm sorry
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just anywhere the nose yes
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he was always a long shot seattle
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oh
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might be than to that's true
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the runway i don't know what else
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to do
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he shouldn't have set
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, own d c felt that was
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dying on so know
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where you are that night
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eventually
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my name on set
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me up to me room at a sudden death the
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top of the stairs listening always
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, always
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what
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i am a mom kick him out
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right away he you know my me ask
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you know right away as an argument
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for a bit
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then i also quiet and
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then me mom swings open the
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door and sunset and you get
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out of this
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right now i'm calling
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i here
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and step outside the south and
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don't come back and
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then sons then door behind
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would he do
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i came in here shifting
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, you know what yes
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the least
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right past it sounds
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this i don't sleep as course
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none of the silence of the house a
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is very quiet and ,
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me man puts on a record a record
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record all play center think it's something about
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something thomas next said habit
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of food at the first night when she called
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me from gotten house and somehow see
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the not news at some of the stairs back
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then
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how i know everything's gonna be alright
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never seen again never
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he comes back data that
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my to pick up something and you see him this
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i hear him arise
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the kid the cusp of this squeak
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an , and bed and
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i hear that and i'm wide awake pick
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and swinton her
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side any my between the worms we're bargain
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mom and not having any of it
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i , talk and and
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i hear the news x on x and
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then a bit later know
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the music goes off when i hear the front
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door open source sort of
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go to the window and not for not
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see him walking off down the street
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in his old raincoat with street other things
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and last last so you that yes
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the human take
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how effect at a taken back and
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he made promises that he be a better husband
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better for them and she just told
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him no it's hard to last chance
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singing oaks wow
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names at this time
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oh
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when he said he was aggressive control
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however he dominated as
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yeah why would he just gave him openly
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the we can i do know my delicious
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please tell me if i'm speaking after that
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it it just seems like they're that's because
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pretty bloody complete the many yeah
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but not snow board of out
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meyer this look this is the worst
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nightmare
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the whole thing is couldn't me
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brand like the ignored
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green couldn't to a record and
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know what i heard and i know what i saw
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like you got sound recording in your head
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and one thing you've told me just a
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see me to listen to sounds hard because
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you don't always hear what they have to tell you
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for instance tiny mums music
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guess he said you could hear
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it yes the hobby me sick when
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i caught you from in that room just now
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you can
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gotta honey dog like
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and you will i can see
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away not in the top floor so how
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loud was she paid me that i don't know
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quite , i suppose and
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cities are happy with are happy his shoes
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paying it from the care heard that first week she
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was yeah the economy should
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miserable that first week the
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wanna be that
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the issue that music she plays when she's
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happy when , wants
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to be happy maybe put put
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, when you has been there
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for fifteen years walks
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out on the edges she kicked him out to protect
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her daughter
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my
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struggles if he how the right seen
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leave
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the second time disease
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there are you going with this list
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for soren go on never saw him again
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i'm sorry didn't ,
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to say most authors
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mom on
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where are you
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i hope what
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, it on the yeah yeah
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just fifty know you don't have to apologize
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everything's gonna be fine just tell
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me where you are a countdown
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it of all right
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transfer money
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i'm just now
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listen to tell me
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i use that mom
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decision and mail on sunday yes or no
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are you in danger yes
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or no is he hold a new against your will
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mom
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the right
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black screen that if we hide
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the outside and on the sun has
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gotta be in the house will be less
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he didn't going in the basement of the base the
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shop for three km along with that you
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have any candidate
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he's gonna number
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in the do such as good as
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we have when
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you don't have to come with us
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jessica we can get you out
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we need to work for
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you
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the you
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that's a good i didn't tell them from
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us has he's sick kid
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from over the road case the only
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way he used to babysit us are
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you police know you
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, he of with that he told us when
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his his his of
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his seat and tennis his it was a safe
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now
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he there
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he's right
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ways sunday
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for happened oh
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chess piece chess was so
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tell me laugh
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the nineties out last year
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, you told him to go yes well well
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try to darling to that
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he says he still made before he's
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agree to he's divorce and
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he was laughing and pressing me against
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the wall and sort the kicks him and
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he fell kicks down those stairs and
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stairs honestly theresa
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i honestly thought he was that t
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, told him to cool i know know
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dunno you will always listening so
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listening went to the do
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the hundred and i said you
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get out of this house right now
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or i'm calling the police
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and a shouted back into the house
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and don't come back and
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, to go behind me finds
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his well did you
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i was just gonna go across
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the road you remember the circus
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what they would know what to do for they were out
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i would have my own ages nineteen
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i , want to get him it's trip over over
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could i do what did you did
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i explain to thing explain accident
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and a as some help and
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he was very kind and
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, him to come around the back and that
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no one would seem so i did
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run the back the
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mother let me in
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i went downstairs larry was
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remembering all sweaty spend
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, was her
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was got a pen knife in his own the new slushy
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of mean i was just trying to keep them away when
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pick his arm and a nice
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when into his chest here
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the new the patched up and brought him back
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and don't have so we watched
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the wants to
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the lead to death primitive die a
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chance that someone with
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turkey for the grace
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i went upstairs and put some music
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on you very much
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possible
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they used to
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return i showed you thousand suitcases
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some of his clothes other
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, ha his own raincoats
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and he went on to dump the bag
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says
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the fittest oldest for me
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created a fake story for you're listening
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daughter
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what do you have ten so
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that's why i didn't see you again
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after that night know
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i never wanted to sit for in this house
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i moved away
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then years later my father goes i'm
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as in a came back to look after him it
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was sad watch again i got a taste for care
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work
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two years ago i joined an agency to supply
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cup of stuff to places like not contain no
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yes which , how we mexican
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finish it was ha
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was so the danger of southern danger of don't
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want to feather particularly so he made
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me phone you and phone of for
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give me a key to see if i can move the body but
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you interrupted me out with you in
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any way they moved
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everything around so couldn't figure out where the body was
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how he needed me here
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you going to tell the police
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it was an accident was
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it , was i promise you know i'm
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still taken this in time
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and up was so scared to come back
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and notice
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cause i moved on the month
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i give the
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real question is what is my
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gonna do
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i don't want any part of this serie a
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sudden abroad elaine and i'm going for
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you so it's hum was eternity
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want nice
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i understand he they
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will have to do
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this is wet soil you
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can smell it the
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bones will be bristle hey
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can smash them up easily
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do you need to get that
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with some designed by lucinda mason brown
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was it listening production for bbc
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to year nobody should have very
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powerful position for leveling of
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time his job was to enforce the
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law says he did not always
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following there was basically creating
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a secret police find out what is as
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i looked like this is like stasi
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and here first hand from the group who
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him we became convinced that
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many meeting listen first on
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