0:00

Well, I think we're going to get into this later in the

0:02

show, but I think things are looking

0:04

really good for the rest of the year for

0:06

power users, specifically of the Linux desktop. We

0:09

just recently talked about plasma six indeed.

0:12

And now GNOME 46 is out. The

0:14

couple of things that jumped out at me, they've improved

0:17

the search for files. They've

0:19

also improved the way it handles file operation

0:21

notification. But Wes, they finally

0:24

put the polish on the

0:26

remote login with RDP. I'm excited

0:28

to try it. Yeah, we had kind of messed around

0:30

with the early support. You kind of had to hack

0:32

a few things together to get it working. But even

0:34

before there was a UI. Yeah. Yeah.

0:36

Yeah. Here's what they write in the

0:38

release announcement. They say, yeah, GNOME's remote

0:40

desktop experience has been significantly enhanced for

0:42

version 46 with

0:45

the introduction of new dedicated remote login

0:47

options. This allows remotely connecting to

0:49

a GNOME system, which is not

0:51

already in use. Connecting in

0:53

this way means that the system's display

0:55

can be configured from the remote side,

0:58

resulting in a better experience for the remote user.

1:01

The new remote login feature means GNOME systems can

1:03

now be used as a fully fledged remote

1:05

resource. It can be found in the remote

1:07

desktop settings, which is where you set

1:09

it up in system settings. The bit in here

1:12

that I'm excited about is that when

1:14

you remote desktop in, it'll use the

1:16

remote's display settings. So you'll have

1:18

it an actual GNOME desktop scale to the

1:20

resolution you're on. You can you

1:22

could picture how this would be really, really nice in

1:25

these thin clients that have built in

1:27

RDP support. Ooh. Super cheap. And

1:30

you could then connect back to your central GNOME

1:32

box. I have a headless GNOME system right now

1:35

using one of those DisplayPort virtual

1:37

dummy things. And I've been using

1:39

Moonlight and Sunshine to connect into it.

1:41

But I could just use this now. Yeah,

1:44

we should be clear, right? It's not it doesn't

1:46

share like an existing session. It's a new login

1:48

session. But yeah, for all kinds of

1:50

applications, you can imagine it being pretty useful. If anybody's

1:53

played around with this, what I

1:55

want to know is can I leave a

1:57

session running and reconnect to it later? And

2:00

if you reconnect to it, does it have to be the same resolution?

2:03

Oh, do you think you could just leave stuff persistently going?

2:06

And then you just pop in whenever you need something. On

2:08

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2:21

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as well. So

3:48

before we get into the show, let's go back in time

3:50

a little bit, just a few days. We wanted to go

3:55

back to Saturday, our meetup, at scale, and just say thank you to

3:57

everybody. everybody

4:00

who made it. I don't really think we

4:02

mentioned this last episode. We

4:04

had a great time and we had

4:07

a dedicated outdoor wing of the restaurant.

4:09

It really took it over. We

4:11

took over the entire area to the point

4:13

where I found out the

4:16

restaurant was turning folks away because we had

4:18

exceeded the fire safety capacity stuff, which

4:21

we had not expected. And so I felt really

4:23

bad if folks showed up and they couldn't make

4:25

it. So we're gonna definitely take that into account

4:28

next year if that happened to you. We're gonna

4:30

try to plan for that, maybe take over the entire

4:32

restaurant. It's

4:35

a good problem to have. It really is and it

4:38

was a heck of a party. We

4:40

also we make great connections in the Knicks community.

4:44

I think we'll probably have some of them

4:46

on the show at some point. I mean it was an

4:48

exciting time to see stuff getting built

4:50

in the next era unfolding. At least

4:52

the beginning of it anyway. Yeah and

4:54

kind of seeing like the pieces coming

4:56

together at this point. I think there's

4:59

a lot of context we got and I'm still putting

5:01

it together. And then there

5:03

was one device that I really felt

5:05

we should have mentioned last

5:08

episode. And it's the

5:10

SODA machine. The SODA

5:12

machine, which stands

5:14

for Shell On-Demand Appliance. And

5:17

it is a data center built

5:20

into a discarded

5:22

SODA vending machine. The

5:24

builders I think literally pulled it out

5:27

of a junkyard and refurbished an old

5:29

SODA vending machine. And

5:31

they put in there a rack

5:33

mount system with networking and a

5:35

PDU that they can control everything

5:37

you'd need for a couple of high-end servers

5:41

that can run a lot of EMs. And

5:43

then on the SODA selection buttons they

5:46

put different distributions. And

5:48

they call this thing the Shell On-Demand Appliance. They've really

5:50

built it out for DEF CON and the idea was

5:53

they wanted to see if people would hack. So you

5:55

you put in a buck or something and

5:57

where the SODA would normally come out. A

6:01

receipt comes out. Yeah, they've got receipt printers

6:03

installed there just working to more reliable than

6:05

any receipt printers I've seen in the wild.

6:07

No kidding and on your receipt is At

6:11

the very top the SSH IP and the

6:13

user and the password it generated for you

6:16

It says access to VMs are over the conference

6:18

Wi-Fi without a VPN so you just use the

6:20

conference Wi-Fi if you're okay with that and it

6:22

has a little description on the rest of the

6:25

receipt what it's all about and

6:27

where you can find out more information and When

6:30

you select one of your sodas you select

6:32

the distro that distro is what then gets

6:34

deployed inside a VM on An

6:37

old green CRT monitor. That's

6:39

amazing. It's still working they

6:42

have an end curses leaderboard of The

6:45

most popular distros that people are choosing

6:48

well word has

6:51

it some folks with the open

6:53

SUSE can't found out about this and started

6:55

sliding a few dollars in the machine and hitting the

6:57

SUSE button and The chart

6:59

for SUSE starts climbing up Little

7:03

hash marks in the end curses interface. Well,

7:06

then it seems that the boys over at Amelie

7:10

next or rocky Linux. I can't remember they noticed that

7:12

the mission that the number was ticking up for SUSE

7:14

So they go put their money in doot doot doot

7:16

doot doot And this kind

7:18

of goes around Nick's OS camp finds out about

7:20

this they go over they put their money into

7:24

And they start competing with this when

7:27

we walked up on Sunday Nick's OS was

7:29

well in the lead and What

7:32

they were doing at the Nick's OS booth, which just seems

7:34

really clever it at least the

7:36

determinant systems guys and gals were

7:39

handing out their receipts and A

7:42

Nick's cheat sheet and saying

7:44

here you want to know more about Nick's Here's

7:46

a cheat sheet of all the commands and

7:48

here is a shell login, right? You've already got

7:50

a VM with Nick's OS ready to go. Yeah,

7:53

it's only here for the weekend anyway So but

7:55

have at it have at it. If you got

7:57

any questions, let us know Brilliant

8:01

absolutely brilliant so they had fedora they had

8:03

open suits they had rocky a boon to

8:05

debbie and free bsd alma linux alpine and

8:08

Nix os debbie and ditto right Rocky

8:10

I think they put a few a few extra dollars

8:12

in for rocky There was there

8:14

was quite a run there for a bit But

8:17

then nix os came in with a dominant lead

8:19

in the soda machine and the best part all

8:21

these dollars there They're going to charity and yeah

8:23

like this. Yeah. Yeah, it does now We asked

8:25

them to open it up for us too. So

8:27

we got to see the inside of

8:30

the soda machine and it is Surprisingly

8:33

spacious yeah, they got room for

8:35

some more accident. They could put more in there

8:38

It's really great. It's a really pretty neat thing to see

8:40

and then up on the up on the screen They have

8:42

like some stats about the system and all of that They

8:45

figured they could probably have gotten to about

8:47

2,000 VMs per box before it fell over

8:50

they weren't sure yet I don't know if it ever

8:52

got that far But as soon as you

8:54

put the dollar in and then you press the soda button on

8:57

the back end It's provisioning the VM right away Yeah,

9:00

it only took a minute or two and there was so so fun

9:05

So if you ever had an event and the soda machine

9:07

is there you got to stop by and take a look

9:09

at that It seems to appropriate to because it's all running

9:12

there. It's on the conference Wi-Fi. You know, it's not in

9:14

some data center somewhere else It's so cool.

9:16

It's such a neat project too because like I said, they

9:18

took it out of a dumpster. They refurb the soda machine

9:21

You would walk by it. In fact, I think we did.

9:23

I think our first walk through the floor I think we

9:25

just walked past it thinking it was a soda machine and

9:28

I just thought it was oh cute They put distro

9:30

names on the sodas, right and I thought

9:32

just pop came out. But oh, when we roll Well,

9:36

I thought we'd come out if you chose that option, I

9:38

guess pop was on there. Yeah, I think pop was on

9:40

there We then of

9:42

course sat down and recorded in

9:44

our Airbnb with mattresses all over the all

9:47

over the kitchen and pillows And

9:49

a lot of you sent in compliments on the audio. So I'm

9:51

glad that you were satisfied Continue

9:53

we were in a kitchen some people suggested

9:55

that it sounded even better than our typical

9:57

recordings in the studio maybe

9:59

I think we need to mattress up

10:02

the studio. No, Drew's just got the skills. Drew's

10:05

just got the skills, that's what it is. Yeah, I mean,

10:07

we should. You know, mattress in here could be nice. Could

10:09

be nice, nap time. It could be really nice.

10:12

And then we had to separate our ways after the

10:14

show. Monday morning, Wes flew home for the day job

10:17

stuff. And that went okay,

10:19

right? Oh yeah, went to a nice little Italian

10:21

deli with dear listener Jeff, who was nice enough

10:23

to take him to the airport. And

10:26

then the power went out while we were having lunch. It

10:30

was kind of fun though, because all the nearby business

10:32

owners and operators were coming over and they're all just like,

10:35

what do we do? What is going on? The power

10:38

went out here at the studio at some point too. But

10:40

it was a delicious sandwich though. Okay. Yeah,

10:43

I mean, you know what, it's like a sandwich. A little

10:45

Burbank Airport. Not bad. So

10:47

small, so easy. Good. I think

10:49

we should say thank you to Jeff too. At least

10:51

me personally, Jeff, you helped me so much during

10:53

the entire conference with rides and

10:56

coordinating things and finding

10:58

equipment and solving, I don't

11:01

know, giving me headphone extensions. That's just the things

11:03

I can remember. So thank you.

11:05

And also, did you fix

11:07

your tire? Oh yeah, I got to be around for

11:09

that too. Yep,

11:12

yep, it got fixed. Shaming them on the

11:14

air. That wasn't his fault. So

11:17

when we arrived in Pasadena, there was

11:19

a massive windstorm and it was

11:21

blowing things all apart. And this Airbnb had a

11:23

piece of plywood propped up with

11:26

a nail and the wind knocked the

11:28

plywood over. With

11:30

the nail right where the tire got parked. Like

11:32

what are the chances? So that was

11:35

awful. But we'd had

11:37

a pretty smooth return trip ourselves.

11:39

We took Brent up Highway 101, which runs

11:42

along the California, Oregon, and Washington coast. And

11:45

I'm just curious what you thought,

11:47

Brent, you got to see Big Tree in the redwoods.

11:50

What was your impression of Highway 101? Yeah, I

11:52

have been looking forward to this for about a

11:54

year because last year when we went to JPL,

11:56

you had promised this exact route and

11:58

it was taken from us. timing and

12:01

such. So the fact that

12:03

we actually did it really impresses me. And finally,

12:07

everybody said that route was going to be

12:09

gorgeous. And it was like seeing the giant

12:12

redwoods. You mentioned the big tree, which

12:15

is aptly named like this thing is 1500 years old, 286

12:17

feet tall or 87 meters for those who, you know, speak

12:23

metric. And the diameter of

12:25

it is like, I mean, it's the width

12:27

of the entire 101 highway.

12:30

So 23 feet diameter of

12:32

what is insane. Of course, you

12:34

got a photo of me and it looks like I'm a little

12:36

like Lego person next to it. Yeah. Yeah. So

12:39

yeah, there was tons to see. I mean,

12:42

ocean. Oh yeah, by the

12:44

way, there's an ocean and a bunch of like... Yeah. Beach.

12:47

Beautiful sights. I mean, we didn't stop at

12:49

all of them. We stopped at what? One

12:51

or two? Yeah, a handful. That was enough to

12:53

take it in. And yeah, had

12:56

some crazy experiences. I think one of those experiences

12:58

you really enjoyed, right, Chris? Oh,

13:00

me. Oh, me. So

13:03

we're driving along and you know, when the wife

13:05

drives, great. I mean, we all three drove, but

13:07

when the wife drives, you know, she's got her music and she's got

13:09

her way of driving. And we're bombing down

13:11

the highway 101 and within

13:14

like a fraction of a

13:16

second, she makes a decision and whips us

13:18

off onto a pull-off and it's boom, boom,

13:20

boom, boom, boom, boom, because you know, it's

13:22

gravel pull-off. And it comes to a stop.

13:25

And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I was like alarmed. I was

13:27

like, something went wrong. Like, what happened? Because I was kind of dozing.

13:29

And she's like, I don't know. I think this is

13:31

where we need to stop. Okay. And

13:34

so her and Brent get out and I'm like, so I'm waking up and

13:36

I'm like, oh, we're gonna get home

13:38

at this rate. Ah, these

13:40

two. And they run down, you know, they'd run down and

13:42

just like my kids, they take their shoes off and their

13:44

socks off and they're running off into the sand and I'm

13:46

like, oh, they're gonna get sand all over the car. I'm

13:48

going full dad mode. And

13:51

I look out there and I'm like, there's a log

13:53

out there. Like, is Brent kicking the log? Like, what

13:55

is, what is he,

13:57

what's going on? And then a few minutes go by and I'm

13:59

on. my phone catching up on email because you

14:01

know we've been driving all day and Hadiya

14:03

comes up to the car and she's like I think we're gonna

14:05

be here for a little bit there's a

14:08

baby seal on the beach and

14:10

okay she runs back down there

14:12

and I okay well they're gonna be

14:14

there for a while sure enough I get out there and

14:17

I'm not really sure what was transpiring I

14:19

think they were both trying to like save the baby seal but

14:22

we we observed the baby seal and then read what

14:25

you're supposed to do and you're supposed to leave them

14:27

for 24 hours and report

14:29

them after that so we

14:31

watched we monitored we took pictures and

14:34

we had a full Pacific Northwest beach

14:36

experience with the waves coming in

14:39

and like Brent's got his pants hiked up

14:41

and he's standing out there in the ocean

14:43

next to the baby seal trying to encourage

14:45

it to go home go to your mom

14:48

yeah they're watching all this good oh we're

14:50

never gonna make it home no

14:53

one lost a finger says all right now that

14:56

is true that is true and how much sand

14:58

got in the Volvo they did pretty good they

15:01

had to sacrifice a few socks to wipe

15:03

themselves down but they did pretty good I

15:05

used one of yours so mine were fine

15:07

but I think also

15:09

on this trip we had an

15:12

opportunity to test a new livestream system built by

15:14

the fountain FM team this is where we publish

15:16

in our RSS feed that we're just live and

15:18

their system and all the other podcasting 2.0

15:20

apps pick it up and and carried

15:22

in the app but now also this new

15:25

website that fountain has built and this is

15:27

particularly interesting to us because we're with we're

15:29

working with them to try to

15:31

push the edges of this thing because

15:33

it's using noster to power the back

15:35

end guys we might remember we talked

15:37

about noster a long time ago the idea

15:40

with the noster protocol is it's a it's

15:43

a cross app live chat or website

15:45

it's all based on

15:48

the protocol which is straightforward event

15:51

driven and it's basically

15:53

passing around Jason through relays and

15:56

that system is powering the back end of the chat and

15:59

because it is lower

16:01

weight I suppose and say matrix

16:03

or even XMPP, it

16:05

can be integrated into the live web page,

16:08

it can be integrated into individual apps, and

16:11

as structured JSON data we could also

16:13

just integrate it in with bots fairly easily

16:15

or it could be associated with a live

16:17

stream for playback. And this also

16:19

sort of plays into some thinking we've had around

16:21

our live stream and live

16:24

stream chats, we kind of, we have them in the matrix right now

16:26

and then we kind of start them up and they sort of eliminate

16:29

the matrix chat for a few hours and then

16:31

they fade away and then the regulars just start

16:33

chatting again. And then the next live show

16:35

comes in and we kind of ram our way in

16:37

and we take over the chat for a while and

16:40

that just goes for a while and then we're

16:42

gone and it settles down and then it's just

16:44

the regulars again. And if

16:46

you're a listener it's kind of hard to go back

16:48

and find out what might have been linked in the

16:50

chat room or somebody was talking about at the time

16:52

to say nothing about making it searchable or even accessible

16:54

without a matrix account. Or obviously

16:56

if it's just stored in JSON, you

16:59

could feed that into our notes.jupiterbroadcasting.com

17:01

search, you could feed it into

17:03

an LLM, you could just have

17:05

it play back with a playback client if you

17:08

wanted to. Or you could do nothing with

17:10

it. It's really powerful that way.

17:13

Yeah, it's a fun excuse to get to play

17:15

with some new tech that maybe we like, maybe

17:17

you don't. It's a kind of

17:19

fun idea with Noster and I know it's like,

17:21

oh, it's another thing. But it's really an identity

17:23

by a public key and a private key system.

17:26

And so you sign up with Noster, some, wherever,

17:29

you can go figure it out. I got docs and notes.

17:32

But then it's one identity that follows you between apps

17:34

and locations. So you can use the Noster social

17:36

media stuff or you could use a Noster chat

17:38

app or you could use a Noster Craigslist

17:40

app or whatever. There's file storage

17:43

apps because you just use your public or private

17:45

key depending what you need to log in. And

17:47

that identity can follow you across all those different

17:49

services, including what we're using for the web

17:51

chat right now. That's neat. It

17:54

does mean one more sign up for Noster. But

17:56

maybe you could be the last or or

17:58

yeah, you know, I do. Really one day,

18:00

he could use it in multiple applications and

18:03

places. I am already. I've

18:05

been experimenting with that now that they're doing this and

18:07

it's neat. I

18:09

don't find the Twitter replacement of Noster the most

18:11

compelling use case. I'm experimenting

18:13

with that, but I find this backend

18:16

structured JSON relay system very

18:19

useful. Right, so the relays

18:21

already get built out and then you can start

18:23

passing data along that relay system for whatever you're

18:25

doing. And build applications on top of them. Interesting.

18:28

I like that. So I have a session for

18:31

everybody in the audience as we wrap up and

18:33

get back to present time. As

18:35

we go forward into Texas Linux Fest

18:37

and Linux Fest Northwest, when we

18:40

do these live streams, do you

18:42

want them posted in the Linux unplug feed? Would

18:44

you prefer they get posted somewhere else like in an extras

18:46

feed or a live only feed? Boost

18:48

in and tell us where you'd like that content because we did those

18:51

live streams and we did hear some feedback saying, hey, I'd like to

18:53

be able to play it back. We

18:55

didn't want to just put random hanging out

18:57

live streams in the RSS feed. We

19:00

want the RSS feed to remain high signal. And

19:02

if we just start dumping like two hour hang out live

19:04

streams or something in there, that's not really what we think

19:06

people are looking for. But

19:08

we would be interested in posting them if you are

19:10

interested in listening to them, but we'd like to know where

19:13

you'd like to see those. Yeah, what's appropriate? Yeah,

19:15

to let us know. All right, and now back

19:17

to the present. So

19:22

this week marks two years of Hyperland and

19:24

Hyperland 0.37 came out with what they say

19:29

fully featured animations on layers. I

19:33

also just wanted to give a nod that Hyperland has made

19:36

it to the two year mark. I think that's just awesome

19:38

to see. And the 0.37 release has

19:41

a couple of nice features in here, Wes. Worth pointing out

19:43

there is already a 0.37. One

19:46

bug fix. So if you're upgrading now,

19:48

maybe we just go to that one. If

19:51

you don't remember, Hyperland is the

19:53

desktop that tags itself as the

19:55

Tiling Compositor with looks. Hyperland provides

19:57

the latest Whelan features, dynamic tiling.

20:00

the eye candy and powerful plugins. And

20:02

I gotta say I did hear it get mentioned a few

20:04

times at scale, people talking about Hyperland. And

20:07

if you are a Tiling fan it does look really great.

20:09

It's kind of one of those you can build your own

20:11

desktop environments, use the file manager you like, use the terminal

20:13

you like, use the launcher you like, and

20:15

use their compositor to make it all work and look

20:18

really slick. Yeah, so you do kind of still got

20:20

to put in a little bit of work. You don't

20:22

get a ton out of the box, right? Like you

20:24

probably want to make sure you've got the default terminal

20:26

installed and that's about all

20:28

you'll have. But if you're the kind of person

20:30

who likes building it up yourself or you don't

20:32

need a lot, it sure

20:34

starts out real sexy. It feels like the

20:37

perfect desktop environment for somebody to

20:39

make a flake or something that

20:41

I could drop on an Xbox and

20:43

have their extremely custom desktop environment.

20:46

You know, I think Brent found a really nice resource we'll have

20:48

it linked in the show notes that I didn't

20:51

see till today but I'd like to give a try too which

20:53

kind of spells out how you might want to go about setting

20:55

up Hyperland in Nix OS. And I think you're right, like the

20:58

combo of the super configurable and build

21:00

your own environment world of tiling window

21:03

managers plus the, you know, just

21:05

give me your .Nix file of Nix OS. Yeah.

21:07

Could be real nice. Well for me,

21:09

the adoption of these kinds of things I think is

21:11

harder because there's such a lift to get it

21:14

configured in a way that works well for me

21:16

where if I could take somebody's existing,

21:18

hey this works really well for me and just try it

21:21

and then tweak it from there, I feel like it'd

21:23

be a lot, lot more straightforward to adopt and try.

21:25

Rather than you having to go figure out all of

21:27

the bits. Yeah, this ground up stuff takes time. It's

21:30

a whole change of workflow. Yeah, I felt

21:32

the exact same way as you, Chris. So

21:34

I'm linking to a resource here by Josiah

21:36

who is like, here's the absolute

21:38

most basic thing you need in Nix OS

21:41

to get this started. I can

21:44

hear a few people probably saying, ah Nix OS

21:46

again. But really this project says,

21:48

you know, the three distributions

21:50

that are most gonna work with

21:52

Hyperland right now because it's so

21:54

bleeding edge is arch Nix

21:57

OS and OpenSUSE a tumbleweed. So

22:00

it's perfect for nixos to just kind of like give

22:02

it a try and I

22:05

found that there's a tiny niche of people

22:07

who are combining nixos

22:09

with the configurations for

22:11

hyperland and so you kind of

22:13

get these Dot

22:16

files specifically for this environment and you

22:18

can launch that very, you

22:20

know already customized setup that you're looking

22:22

for Chris some of them are like

22:26

Super fancy customized and I wanted to

22:28

get as close as possible to the

22:30

native experience first. That's where this

22:33

Resource that I'm looking to kind of gets you there.

22:35

It gets you the basic pieces and then you could

22:37

see okay Here's the vanilla Install

22:40

with a few recommendations and

22:42

I think from there you could look at

22:44

other people's configs and do some plucking of

22:46

various things but I tried it this morning

22:49

and yeah, I kind of I

22:53

Frustrated and then crested Crested

22:55

that point just for like 10 minutes or I was

22:58

like, oh wait a second. I might

23:00

actually like this So who knows I

23:02

mean using a tiling only Interface

23:05

is kind of a new thing

23:07

for me, but I got that little hint of like

23:10

hey, wait a second So, I don't

23:12

know this might grab me. I'm not

23:14

sure. Yeah, I think it is worth calling

23:16

out that You know, not only is hyperlink packaged

23:18

in nix packages But they maintain it looks like

23:20

a quite a nice flake just in

23:22

the repo You can see even in the dot

23:25

3 7 really some of the fixes and changes

23:27

are for like the nix base CI So I

23:29

think it's sort of first-class support which is nice

23:32

there's a to me there's a There's

23:35

a like three distinct

23:37

categories that are really appealing to me in

23:39

the desktop world right now and plasma

23:42

6 is that Really

23:44

powerful full-feature desktop I spent

23:47

you know, a lot of a lot of my recent Weekend

23:50

and computing use just in plasma this week

23:53

Just really using plasma and like oh, yeah, this

23:56

has been great. This is really nice. It was

23:58

been a gnome a lot recently And

24:01

then you have a good own 46 which we

24:03

just talked about previously and they're really refining things

24:06

like the rendering of the text now and How

24:09

working in the file manager is displayed to you in

24:11

this search and that kind of stuff where and how

24:13

some of those basic? Functions work are just getting more

24:15

and more polish but

24:17

there's a complexity to those two desktops, and then you

24:19

have hyper land which is Simpler

24:22

in its overall scope maybe more complex,

24:25

and how you set it up But

24:28

probably static once you have it set

24:30

up. Yeah, there's just fewer

24:32

moving parts, and it's easier to understand I

24:34

mean like you can get you probably ultimately

24:36

want like a display manager But you can

24:38

just get started on a TTY running the

24:40

hyperlink command And you know putting the bits

24:42

seeing what you get yeah working with it

24:44

from there I love that and

24:46

I just think I mean there's so

24:49

many other desktops that I don't mean to

24:51

diminish what they do But when I look

24:53

at these three desktops And how they're each

24:55

so clearly going after a core market, and

24:58

they're so nice now We

25:00

have such we have such good choices

25:02

in 2024 for the desktop that

25:05

I kind of I Kind

25:07

of feel like I need to I need to spend more

25:09

time with both gnome 46 and hyperland and plasma 6 and

25:11

then I want to sort of standardize Just

25:14

for a while on one of those and I don't

25:16

know just really lean into just using one desktop

25:18

environment again for a while I

25:20

mean there's a lot there's a lot to like and there's a

25:23

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25:27

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25:29

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25:31

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28:02

Down. And when I was Studio Last, we

28:04

had a brand new, fancy laptop in Studio.

28:06

I admit that for the last linux unplugged,

28:08

I used it and stuff that under a

28:10

desk and have it just kind of running

28:12

there. so I didn't really get a chance

28:15

to. Get. My toes

28:17

dug into this one. But Chris, you did! You

28:19

spend what a couple weeks on the thinks. I'm

28:21

curious to hear what this thing is and how

28:23

one. And. I use my hands set

28:26

of my systems. I feel I can probably got

28:28

a better than our take on it says serious

28:30

sixteen Jan one. I believe

28:32

by new Odium and here was once you grab that

28:34

while out while I talked about it's either me or

28:36

for me for my hands of the I mean the

28:38

first thing you'll notice is it's kind of sixteen point

28:40

one inch screen. Yeah, and it runs

28:42

a twenty five sixty by Fourteen forty. In.

28:45

Go up to hundred and sixty five, Her to can pluck, down

28:47

to sixty. Her to feel like. Sixteen.

28:49

By nine aspect ratio. Works

28:52

great for like watching videos. Ah,

28:54

Thousand and one contrast ratio. Three hundred nets. not

28:56

the brightest, but not bad and that screen supports.

29:00

Md precinct as well. I.

29:02

It's kind of all. Aluminum. Chassis kind

29:04

of a gunmetal Gray does have a fingerprint reader

29:06

on the side, but I don't belong with as

29:08

Linux. That's kind of nice were to happen. It

29:11

doesn't work with linux right now. Check out those

29:13

hinges on that monitor though. And.

29:15

The hint just entered the political cool. These

29:17

hinges are losing serious Henderson. This on almost

29:19

Brent. Proof? I think I know. It's.

29:21

Really sturdy. Brenda. You are

29:23

marked on the hinges as well. I I think

29:25

they could withstand even your most strenuous usage. There's

29:27

no flop right now. no slot know? Yeah, they

29:30

look like they're. A style of hinge

29:32

have never seen before. Can you describe in there?

29:34

Almost like I don't know, the thing you might

29:36

have on a car hood or something. Yeah.

29:38

Or yet or for a door on a cars

29:41

or other kind of. You shape their metal and

29:43

when you take the bottom of the laptop of

29:45

they take up the entire available space inside that

29:47

laptop their as thick as the laptop which is.

29:50

A just under an answer is a nice clothes

29:52

in make him as it is nice and solid right?

29:54

And it's so it's kind of hefty. It's near five

29:57

pounds. But. Again, this is a sixteen

29:59

inch. The machine with are plenty of

30:01

bits and that it will get a of evenly

30:03

distributed to. It's not like one side is massively

30:05

heavy so it's easier to hold it. Up.

30:08

To ninety six gigs of Ram quests, it's

30:10

got us before. Would. Switch to did

30:12

seen a nine month exceeds the was. Yeah.

30:16

They got a little extra space in that thing

30:18

because the Amd processor runs little bit cooler Signal

30:20

extra space and you get ninety six gigs of

30:22

ram, both of which are user accessible to the

30:24

slots in there too. easily accessible m.to story slots

30:27

as well. The battery could be replaced by an

30:29

end user. So. You can have up

30:31

to four terabytes of peace A for storage in

30:33

this thing. Why? Fi Six eat.

30:35

Too. Full featured Us B C's on their into

30:37

Full featured Us Be A is on there. Also

30:40

has an Rj Forty Five full Land Jack not

30:42

the many Jack. I'm. And I

30:44

really appreciate that the powered either at the Hd

30:46

my in one of the U S B C's

30:49

which is directly connected to the Gp you. Is

30:51

on the back of the laptop. Which.

30:53

Is so nice. So nice!

30:56

Am I really, really think when you combine the

30:58

ports on the back and that all of the

31:01

ram, the battery, the hard drive, it's all user

31:03

accessible. That. Is rare to the

31:05

Cp you in this thing is a monster.

31:07

The Am, The Rise and Seven Seventy eight.

31:10

Forty. Eight as with eight cores

31:12

and sixteen threads. Boys. It's

31:14

got a top speed of five point

31:16

one four gigahertz in a laptop. For.

31:20

Nano Meter technology so it actually runs

31:22

cooler than the Intel a quilt quibble

31:24

into. They. Say it's

31:26

on par with a fourteen core I

31:28

Seven, One Thirty seven hundred Aids. From

31:31

from. Into. This is

31:33

quite a little keyboard backlight. Go again

31:35

here. So it's got a full Rgb

31:37

keyboard backlight you consider to one color

31:39

you can individually configure in their control

31:42

center. Ah, The keyboard

31:44

is like a it's like a rubber membrane I would

31:46

say, but the buttons feel really sturdy. They don't really

31:48

have any wobble to them. It is a

31:50

keyboard that you don't pay a lot of attention to.

31:53

Kind. Of falls in that. Probably. Not the

31:55

best keyboard have ever used but. Far. From

31:57

the worst keep it on August. Sims. A

31:59

trackpad that. The describe the trackpad. Feels.

32:01

Really good. Not. The absolute

32:04

best rock that have ever used. Far from the

32:06

worst supports all the gestures. It.

32:08

Is our center though. Some. Folks

32:10

like that You get it no given I'm

32:12

had to know it's a personal preference was

32:14

it's a purse I I kind of like

32:17

the non thought I wish I could have

32:19

the non pad and my trackpad. Still central

32:21

thesis the all sense centered but when you're

32:23

actually using laptop you don't really even notice

32:25

it. Is really not a big

32:27

deal. You can turn off the lighting

32:29

completely using microphones in key keyboard combo.

32:33

It does is a when you when it comes

32:35

with tuxedo or was It comes in hybrid graphics

32:37

mode by default. And the control center

32:39

Let's you configure some of the things but not all

32:41

of the things as machine can do yet There they

32:43

are working on that. On their

32:45

some documentation on them. And documentation

32:48

on the keyboard as well. It's. Got.

32:50

A moderate battery life. Again,

32:53

when you're rock and sixteen point when screen

32:55

and you've got a big game Bgp you

32:57

and inter internal and eg. be you and.

33:00

A. Big game Dcp. You depend what you're doing.

33:03

I find three to six hours is what

33:05

I was getting. better. Life: Okay. I

33:08

didn't push it extensively because for a laptop

33:10

like this. I'm kind of use

33:12

of this is almost a. Desktop. Laptop.

33:15

Somewhere in the middle right you could take it

33:17

as a coffee shop with the to work. I

33:19

would get almost a day's work but there are

33:21

serious stuff you're going to once plug in any

33:23

way you've got us B C for so and

33:25

these are connected directly to the video card so

33:27

you can. You. Do and multiple monitors

33:30

just fine. I see it has a barrel

33:32

power yes it does. It also have yes

33:34

be slaves only bear. I'm only use the

33:36

barrel connector are you might build around off.

33:38

see I don't know if you'd want to

33:40

the V really pushing this thing. I only

33:42

use the barrel connector with this. We.

33:44

Could try years bc though he will transfer that you plug

33:46

into the back when they're That's the one I would use

33:48

and I would think you'd least it's something off of that.

33:52

And. i i like that it has a full

33:54

hd my port and a full ethan at port

33:56

oh yes so it's really it's as they come

33:58

off the back like You just plugged in on the C.

34:01

It's really nice to be able to just you sit down at

34:03

your desk I plug in my HDMI cord. I plug in my

34:05

Ethernet. I'm good to go No

34:08

power not chugging. Yeah, it

34:10

might be because that thing does kind of have like up to a

34:12

70 watt TDP depending on how you

34:14

okay that makes sense It

34:19

can really it can really haul it does have USB-C on

34:21

the sides too, which is nice So you don't have to

34:23

use the ports on the back. Oh, well, maybe I Are

34:26

you getting power on one of them on the side? Yeah, that

34:29

doesn't surprise me Okay That's

34:32

kind of that's kind of what I was expecting nice to

34:34

have an in a pinch though, you know, you're just trying

34:36

to charge Yeah, yeah, as long as you know,

34:38

you're not slamming the system. You could probably just you

34:40

ain't probably have plenty of power to charge the battery The

34:43

so, you know, you're gonna

34:45

see varying degrees of battery life depending on how you use

34:47

it What do you think of the design of

34:49

the thing? I? Don't

34:52

know if it would win any awards,

34:54

but it's professional. It's sleek I Be

34:57

happy to take it with me wherever. Oh, well,

35:00

you know, there's there's some ostentatious elements like the

35:02

light bar on the front Right. Yeah, you

35:05

can set that to be a different color

35:07

You can kind of control that a little bit That's as far

35:09

as they take it as that light bar on the front and

35:12

then you could set the keyboard all the one color So I

35:14

feel like it is a machine you can game on that you

35:16

can also take to work Yeah,

35:18

it makes it, you know, it's not like the Alienware

35:20

that like the lights on the back It doesn't have

35:22

like RGB orbiting around the bottom of it It

35:25

you could actually put it in more of a discrete mode with

35:27

the keyboard and that light bar on the front So

35:30

that to me is a pretty hard line to walk where

35:32

it can be a gaming computer But it also can

35:34

be a work computer the build's really

35:36

solid. You don't feel any flex in the

35:38

case I think this is again this new manufacturer really seems

35:40

to know what they're doing And

35:42

with those hinges, I think that's gonna last a long

35:44

time So if you're

35:46

looking for a laptop That's kind of a desktop replacement that

35:48

you could take to work You could you know to take

35:51

it is to take to town and it's a gaming machine

35:54

This is it and I threw my games

35:56

at it. I could play them at the full resolution

35:58

and have still a pretty good frame rate But what I did turn it

36:00

down to 1080p, I

36:03

could turn it up to absolute max settings and

36:05

the games would still run great. And that's plenty

36:07

for me. And that 16 by

36:09

nine ratio actually works really good at a 1080p

36:11

setting. Yeah, I bet. So for

36:14

games and for videos, I like the

36:16

16 by nine resolution, or aspect ratio.

36:19

Okay, so this is a

36:21

tuxedo. I mean, there's even sort of a little

36:23

tuxedo Linux logo here on the

36:25

super key. That must mean

36:27

it runs Linux just great, right? Yeah, so it comes

36:29

with tuxedo OS. You can also

36:32

option it with Ubuntu. I

36:34

think we should put Nix on there. Some we

36:36

should try. I have sent them an email

36:38

asking them how many of their customers they know about running Nix.

36:41

It's kind of curious. Because when I went digging

36:43

to see what other people thought of this laptop,

36:46

I did see other folks running Nix on it.

36:48

Oh, great. So in theory, maybe there's even some

36:50

hardware profiles out there. And I thought I saw

36:52

the tuxedo OS control panel packaged for

36:54

Nix. Think it might've been written in Rust

36:56

too, as a matter of fact. I'm a

36:58

CEO. So I think that

37:01

might be worth trying maybe before I ship it back, just so I can get

37:03

a sense of that. But I

37:05

did wanna try tuxedo OS, because then you

37:07

get their working hybrid graphics, you get their

37:09

working control center stuff, and it's not for

37:11

gaming testing. That was probably the way to go. And

37:15

then mess around with Nix after that. I

37:18

am in the market right now for a laptop. I

37:21

don't know, I lost my ThinkPad. It's

37:24

embarrassing. It's like three or four years old, so I mean,

37:26

that's a little before it's time. It's

37:28

somewhere in the studio, no doubt. Somewhere.

37:31

But the studio, it's a mess, and I have

37:33

no idea where it is. And

37:35

it really was nice

37:37

to have this laptop, because I

37:39

don't have my regular ThinkPad. And

37:42

what this laptop showed me is, I do

37:44

think I'm in the market for a laptop

37:46

with a dedicated GPU. Especially

37:49

these days, you know? If you're trying to

37:51

do games. I

37:53

hadn't thought it should be Nvidia or AMD

37:55

yet. It is really

37:57

nice to have all AMD. Because

38:00

when I did try KDE neon here for a bit

38:02

everything just works There is

38:04

a premium Linux experience when you're

38:06

all AMD hardware This thing

38:08

remains pretty quiet too for you know until you really

38:10

start cranking on it all of that just kind of

38:13

comes together The microphone

38:15

the webcam they're okay, but the rest of

38:17

it is so nice that I

38:19

think the stereo 16 goes on my

38:21

top five Contender list I

38:24

don't know what else is on that list yet. The only

38:26

reason why it's not a guaranteed Pull

38:28

the trigger for me is because I think I

38:30

want a 14 inch laptop It's

38:33

a little hard like on

38:35

the plane, you know Travel it's

38:37

portable enough to yeah for your day-to-day stuff. But yeah, do

38:39

you want to throw in the bag? It's a bit of

38:41

weight and I think I want a 14 inch But

38:44

a 14 inch with a modern dedicated

38:46

GPU That seems tricky

38:49

Where this if you're okay with or if you

38:52

want the larger screen, it's

38:54

surprisingly thin for what you

38:56

get And the fact that you

38:58

can open this thing up and you know start with 32 gigs

39:00

of RAM and then later on put 96 Gigs

39:02

of RAM that's pretty killer start with one

39:04

disc and later put another disc in this or

39:06

you know upgrade the disc Swap the battery

39:08

out down the road It's all

39:11

even the fans and everything is very serviceable, you know

39:13

Say years later when the things out of warranty and

39:15

you want to just do it yourself You

39:17

just pop this one panel off and it's all

39:19

just right there and user accessible to do various

39:21

degrees Yeah, that's hard to find these days They're

39:24

real and at this at this, you know less than

39:26

it's point eight inches thick That's

39:28

rare and for the kind of TDP this thing pushes

39:30

and the hardware pushes. So this is on the top

39:33

five for me I think I

39:35

want to find a 14 with dedicated graphics But

39:37

if you are looking for a 16 inch laptop

39:39

16 point one inch laptop with a smooth Linux

39:41

experience This serious 16 gen

39:43

1 is just knocking it out of the

39:46

park And I don't know

39:48

of many laptops that are all AMD

39:50

in this 7,000 series, right? This

39:53

is the Ryzen 7 7840 HS With

39:57

a TDP of up to 54 watts and

39:59

this thing When under full cpu load they've actually got

40:01

this thing cooled such that they tell me in the

40:03

documentation they can get up to 80 watts for

40:06

the cpu They do have to

40:08

do some limiting if the gpu and the a and the

40:10

cpu are cranking at the same time But it will make

40:12

sense They're still able to push an incredible

40:14

amount of power and efficiency out of this thing With

40:17

and then the dedicated gpu is the

40:19

radion rx 7600

40:22

mxt and that has a clock speed of 2300 megahertz

40:24

and 8 gigs of GDR 6 It's

40:28

maybe not the highest end video card, but

40:30

it's pretty great. It's not far off from

40:33

the highest end and It

40:36

met all of my like let's game with the kids

40:38

needs and all that as well as a good work

40:41

machine that I could go Set at my desk and

40:43

just plug in the power and the ethernet and HDMI

40:45

cord and no doc even need I didn't even

40:47

need a doc That's exactly I

40:49

didn't and I had you I guess cuz

40:51

right cuz usb4 is technically Thunderbolt So

40:54

I could have hooked up a Thunderbolt doc But when you just

40:56

put the ports you need it's just three ports right there in

40:58

the back It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal.

41:01

So the series 16 will put a link to it in the show notes

41:03

I like it and this is their this is

41:05

the first one of this series and I'd

41:08

definitely give it a go if you want the all AMD

41:10

workflow and Tell

41:12

me sent you I guess we don't get anything for it. This is

41:14

nice to know that you heard about it here. I suppose Ha

41:17

ha ha Collide

41:21

comm slash unplugged now You've probably heard me talk about Clyde

41:23

before because I think this tooling had it been around when

41:25

I was in IT I probably would have been able to

41:27

stick in a lot longer Collide

41:29

has made things so much simpler for those of you

41:32

out there that have Okta But have

41:34

you heard that Clyde was recently acquired by

41:36

one password that that's pretty pretty big news

41:38

I mean these two companies are

41:40

leading the industry and creating security solutions to

41:42

put users first For over

41:44

a year Clyde device trust has helped companies with

41:46

Okta ensure that only known secure devices

41:48

can connect to the network Avoids

41:50

phishing issues or devices that are not compliant They

41:53

still give you all of that including that dashboard

41:55

to manage all of your systems But

41:58

now they're part of one password So,

42:00

if you've got Okta and you've been meaning to

42:02

check out Collide, now is a great time. Collide

42:04

comes with a library of pre-built device posture checks,

42:06

and you can write your own custom checks for

42:08

just about anything you can think of. And

42:11

I think it's great that you can use Collide on devices

42:13

that don't have MDM, so people that want to bring their

42:15

own Linux boxes, or maybe a contractor. That's

42:18

pretty sweet. So now that Collide is part of

42:20

1Password, they're only going to get better. So go

42:22

check them out. That's collide.com/unplugged, kolide.com/unplugged.

42:24

Go check out their demo.

42:27

It's a great way to

42:29

support the show and

42:31

see what they're all about. collide.com/unplugged.

42:38

Well it feels like we just got

42:40

done with scale, but it's already time,

42:42

well past time actually, to start planning

42:44

for our next event, Texas Linux Fest

42:46

2024. April

42:48

12th through the 13th in Austin. Woo!

42:52

And a huge thank you to Sinari, who is getting us

42:54

down there. They're bringing us to Texas

42:56

Linux Fest. They're also helping support Texas Linux Fest

42:58

directly. They are a local on-demand cybersecurity

43:01

firm. It's sinari.com. And

43:05

I think we're changing our plans right now. We were going

43:07

to drive down, but then after this drive we just did,

43:09

and how much time it took, we looked at it and

43:11

we just said, oh my god, we can't do this again

43:14

right now. So now

43:16

I think we're flying down. It's

43:18

all kind of up in the air. It's really more last

43:20

minute than I would like, but I think we found a

43:22

place. I think we figured out our flights. So

43:25

that's a pretty big piece of it. Sounds like

43:27

we'll be there. Yeah, we're going to be there and

43:29

we're going to try to live stream from the floor of

43:31

Texas Linux Fest. It'll be my first Texas Linux

43:33

Fest. I'm looking forward to it. Oh! Yeah,

43:36

my first as well, and my first time in Texas. So

43:38

you boys are going to have to show me a good

43:40

time. Whoa. Oh my goodness.

43:42

Carl, if you're listening, we

43:44

better... Challenge raised. Yeah, we're going to be so

43:46

busy because we're going to be there for a

43:49

lot less time now too. We

43:51

should plan to just sleep before we go and not really

43:53

when we're there. That would make it a lot

43:55

more efficient. We'd love to see you

43:57

there. And then of course, shortly after that, you know what happens.

44:00

Linux Fest Northwest and

44:02

that's also gonna be a great event so either

44:04

one we'd love to have you at it. Ask

44:06

not what your podcast can boost for

44:09

you but what you

44:11

can boost for your podcast. Cultivator came

44:13

in with 61,021 sats. Hey

44:17

Richy, I

44:21

just ordered me an R3S6S because y'all

44:23

made it too tempting. I

44:25

haven't purchased a console since the original Xbox. Not

44:27

a big gamer these days but I really love

44:29

the old games so I can't wait to test

44:31

it. It's gonna be a great gift idea to buy

44:33

a few and hold on to them for the holidays. Smart.

44:36

That is really smart because they're probably gonna get

44:38

pulled off the market. By the way this is

44:41

a zip code boost. Greetings from the great corn

44:43

desert. Wes did you bring your... Oh good, you

44:45

brought the map. Of course I did. I'm impressed.

44:47

Not even the VR one this time. Great

44:50

corn desert. I don't even know where to begin

44:52

to like place that. Oh

44:54

I think it makes sense because this is a postal

44:57

code in Dickson, Illinois.

44:59

Ah! Which is seemingly about an hour and

45:01

a half or so west from Chicago. Hello

45:04

Dickson, Illinois. If we

45:06

ever do make that Chicago meetup I hope you could make

45:09

it out there. And that's a bit of a drive it sounds like.

45:11

Both directions. But Brent will try to

45:13

make it worth your time somehow. Sure. Just to, you

45:15

know, chomp on some corn to keep your energy up.

45:18

Oh Wes. Eric D. Boos in with

45:20

50,000 sats. I

45:22

hoard that with your kind coverts.

45:25

Is it just me or did your

45:27

audio quality somehow get better than usual

45:29

in this on location episode? Keep

45:32

on keeping it crisp. Hope you had fun at

45:34

scale. Maybe. You know

45:36

it's possible Wes. Maybe we just

45:38

need to be on location in Airbnbs having

45:40

a semi-show party every time for

45:43

the best quality for a show. That's the

45:45

recipe that works and our audience demands the

45:47

best. It's just what it's gonna take. You

45:49

can also wonder if we actually were on location

45:51

if you want to go there. You

45:54

definitely were on location. Okay.

45:56

Confirmed. Yeah, I mean

45:58

I was I was. Definitely.

46:00

you know, badgering? You know?

46:03

One of the and to stay at

46:05

their Bloody Boot the whole time and

46:07

you know I I talked to Chris

46:10

outside of the outside the venue for

46:12

some of the downtime because gosh, I

46:14

was running around like a chicken with

46:17

my head cut off for most of

46:19

it Indeed, What's a boosts? a hybrid

46:21

sarcasm boosted in with a whole bunch

46:23

of those here. Let's see, the first

46:26

one here is for one, two three

46:28

four five pseudo she's ah could that

46:30

be companies. What? Three,

46:33

four, five, Stupid

46:36

comedy. Now.

46:38

There wasn't a message for this one,

46:40

but there is another boost for twelve

46:42

thousand. three hundred and forty five, so

46:45

doses to freeze. Yes, it's amazing. I

46:47

got the same combination of my last.

46:50

Strangely. Is also no message but there's a third

46:52

one. For. Twelve thousand, Three Hundred

46:54

and Forty Five said oh. A

46:59

Free Speech. And

47:01

a last boost here from hybrid

47:03

sarcasm: five thousand South saying hey,

47:06

it's been awhile since we've gone

47:08

plaid. Hell

47:11

was that space

47:13

for one C

47:16

Ups. I phone

47:18

so recently decided to sign up for

47:20

fountain Premium. If I'm gonna ask for

47:23

features, I should probably be supporting the

47:25

project. Ah ah

47:27

that's great! And. Gonna

47:29

make your make my subscription as current as well. You

47:31

know. It. Is time. It is time.

47:34

Now. Top comes in with a row

47:36

of mic ducks. these are looking up

47:38

foothold know Doc says. I really liked

47:40

the Vr and Linux content. You have

47:42

any updates on the implementation that you

47:44

have been using? Well, I just got

47:46

myself a new headset called the bubble

47:48

Vr which was on presale. This thing

47:50

is that. Cadillacs. Oh

47:53

Cadillacs of headsets The first of all,

47:55

Like. A drill battery is gonna hop

47:58

swap battery situation a tenth. The mill

48:00

and battery that actually can deliver the voltage

48:02

dated quest needs unlike the previous ones that

48:04

couldn't fully this one does. and you can

48:06

get a dark and you can charge multiple

48:08

batteries and you can hot swap batteries on

48:10

of the bachelor, their heads swapping, swap out,

48:12

swap in swap outs and the quest as

48:14

bad as of the quest to keep running

48:16

swap and you swap out. you can just

48:18

keep going all day in your little virtual

48:20

environments and then it's. All. This

48:22

nice cushioning with a kind of rethought the way this

48:24

thing sits on your head, so there's really almost no

48:26

wait on your face anymore. It's. Luxurious.

48:29

And. Then. To. Put it

48:31

into opulence, They've. Built a fan

48:34

and the forces. With.

48:36

A dial on the side. So. You

48:38

can turn up. I like it around sixty five

48:40

percent. you can turn up the face fan. And

48:43

you get. Cool. Air balloon on your

48:45

face is it's premium? Yeah, check out because

48:47

the bobo vr. Ah, And it's

48:49

for the quest. Three just started shipping. And

48:52

it's a great example of. These.

48:54

As reason the to ecosystem something like this for the

48:56

vision pro is going to be three hundred dollars. And.

48:59

Something like this where the quest is like sixty

49:01

to eighty dollars. That's it. Yeah,

49:03

wow, So it's extremely comfortable to wear

49:05

now, and the way I've been using

49:07

the quest with my work flow is

49:10

kind of whittled down. To. One

49:12

particular scenario, and that's I'm at

49:14

home. And. A need to work for

49:16

a couple of hours. And I just I'm

49:18

so used to multiple screens or I'm going to be on

49:20

a video call. I like it on the video calls. It's.

49:23

A way to kind of be

49:25

video. Without. Feeling zoom

49:27

fatigue? I just. I don't know

49:30

for me is in concert or I'm exhausted by

49:32

some constantly looking at the camera angle, the lighting

49:34

and I want to make sure making eye contact

49:36

with the camera because I'm like speaking to somebody.

49:38

I I'm thinking about the production angle on a

49:41

resume com yeah way more than I need to

49:43

be. and when I'm just a stupid cartoony Vr

49:45

in there. Are. Avatar. Torpedo

49:48

among camera. People can see me, I can react, I

49:50

can move my head, I can blink. They.

49:52

Can see my room but it's a virtual me. And.

49:56

I could do those. Twice. As long

49:58

as a regular simple. Or do. Or

50:00

whatever. so I've been using it at home when

50:02

I need multiple screens that we're. Now.

50:05

Considering we might be flying to Texas Linux fast here

50:07

in a couple weeks d think he will take that

50:09

Vr experience with you on the flight. If I was

50:11

flying by myself I might consider i don't know how

50:13

the quest as on the airplane. But

50:16

that's tricky when year. In. I

50:18

like before offline together say like three of us

50:20

sitting there are only one watch a movie. And

50:23

add soccer from. Sit next to the wife and she

50:25

wants to watch a show with me. I can't, you

50:27

know? Oh yeah, there's not really a solution for that

50:29

yet. Be. Great if you could. Just like

50:31

hard wired to headsets directly together so there was airlines

50:34

he does watches into a gorgeous becomes like an Hd

50:36

my output or something. But. Now yet

50:38

so it's kind of a. Private.

50:40

Thing you know, nobody can see what you're doing

50:42

in there for better for worse than. I

50:45

actually like it. I don't really like like

50:47

even family or kid like kids are intimate.

50:49

I held outlets, have read my messages on

50:52

screen and enough as you know enters his

50:54

or have. My

50:56

stuff. And so is the I.

50:58

Definitely. I. As grattan of these things

51:00

up all over the house, I got no idea

51:02

when I ever really had no. Fantastic.

51:05

So I love that aspect about it. But. Yeah,

51:08

I'm I'm not using it at work, especially in

51:10

places where are it were already have my screens

51:12

and I don't bring it with me very often.

51:15

I consider bringing on this trip. But.

51:17

Again, the pass through isn't good enough like I said

51:19

my review to actually use your in the studio where

51:21

I can see the mixer quite well. Almost.

51:24

Really? almost there which can remember work

51:26

on a cellphone cameras in low light

51:28

situation here. So. Until that tech is

51:30

really great. The passers gonna be limited.

51:33

And. Once it's really good you can you can

51:35

see keys really well and it's and see dobbs

51:37

and dials of buttons. Then. I could

51:39

really see where it while doing shown look like a real

51:41

idiot to a generation or two yet either. Yeah, maybe one

51:43

or two. I think we'll be there. In.

51:46

Gene Been came in with

51:49

eleven thousand, two hundred and

51:51

forty nine Sat. Suppose. That.

51:53

Of course as across six different

51:55

boosie he was listening live he

51:57

says. He. likes brands home

51:59

I don't know. Did that make it in the released

52:02

version? It might have been the members only version Brant

52:05

got into some good honking. Yeah,

52:08

accurate moose simulation. Well practiced. I

52:10

did my best chicken call, but Wasn't

52:13

wasn't so great That's

52:19

pretty good you want to hear my chicken?

52:21

Yes, please That's

52:31

my chicken I could do I think either a

52:33

dove or a pigeon depending on where where you

52:36

think of it He

52:46

also wanted to give mad props on the stickers

52:48

to Jeff and the golden dragon he loved them

52:51

He says he didn't he felt bad that he didn't

52:53

recognize listener Jeff at the sticker table,

52:55

but he figured it out eventually Oh,

52:58

gee don't feel bad Sometimes I

53:00

see Jeff and I don't even recognize him, you

53:02

know, he's a man of mystery now It's totally

53:04

understandable. You don't really see our faces. Do you?

53:08

Unless you're watching live I suppose We

53:10

had a boost from some know from some guy named

53:12

noble pain. I wonder who who that could

53:14

be What are you testing the boost system over there? Oh, yeah,

53:16

so I look like these are the live Yeah,

53:19

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah cool. Very

53:22

good. You know, I mean you gotta get it on the boost in All

53:24

right. Why don't you take the next one? Yeah Tebow

53:26

in Obara comes in with 18,000 289

53:28

cents First

53:33

to say more distros, please Linux

53:36

unplugged not Nick all right. All

53:38

right. All right. All right

53:40

fair and then reporting from a Samsung 24

53:43

plus maybe s 24 plus and

53:45

yes fountain has issues with Android auto won't work

53:47

from the lock screen So if you unlock

53:49

your phone then open fountain shows will show up

53:52

and you can eventually play through So

53:55

on the s 24 you have to unlock it

53:57

first before Android auto works what they're saying, I

53:59

guess Yeah, so a little nuance there

54:02

right right I ended up Mostly

54:04

using the iPhone for our drive because

54:06

it has unlimited data versus the metered

54:08

data on the piezell 7 okay That's

54:10

convenient, but we were not in

54:12

a car with CarPlay for the entire drive, and you

54:14

know what? It's fine.

54:17

Yeah, it really is fine. Yeah, I

54:19

mostly drive my car with CarPlay I'm like oh you gotta have

54:21

CarPlay or you gotta have Android auto, but then you know you

54:23

just get a mount And

54:25

everything works fine. You got the maps you got everything

54:27

you already have a screen As

54:30

long as you've got a solid audio connection right the

54:32

music or whatever yeah, yeah, so I'm

54:34

I don't know I'm not such the CarPlay Android

54:36

auto Max ballist. I was before the road trip

54:38

I mean you also had to live DJ sit

54:41

in the car with you so that helps yeah

54:43

helps right Well

54:45

distros do boosted in with 3333

54:49

sats via fountain The

54:51

episode where you talked about helipad you said

54:53

that someday nyx will have everything like an

54:55

easy mail server I Happen

54:58

to be evaluating mail servers for my

55:00

home network and recently came upon nyx

55:02

os dash mail server Not

55:05

in nyx packages yet, but it is

55:07

quite complete You should check it out

55:09

my personal favorite mail suite is mail

55:11

cow which depends on docker compose But

55:13

I've even found flakes for it if

55:16

you want to blow your mind Just

55:18

scroll through the thousand services already in

55:20

nyx packages Yeah,

55:22

yeah, no kidding right Thank

55:24

you distros do for linking that next OS

55:26

mail server. I knew there must be some

55:29

out there, right? What is he

55:31

link us here to the service? Oh, yeah? Oh?

55:33

Oh, yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot I

55:35

mean yeah, there's so much software already available. Yeah,

55:37

I think this is going to be an area

55:39

that expands even more though If

55:41

there should be basically nyx configs

55:44

and flakes for everything and for those of the one you

55:46

just drop it in there and you can run it and

55:48

you don't Even have to be on an xos you can

55:50

be on an Ubuntu system with an x package manager I

55:52

hope it eventually becomes yeah that way right like you're making

55:54

your software You won't be able to be able to try

55:56

it kind of like now you might put in the flat

55:58

pack or whatever And that's still a great option, but Yeah,

56:00

if you've got a flake in there super discoverable if

56:02

you do want us to try out a distro

56:04

in particular to let us know We're always willing

56:06

to give a distro ago. Also a nice to

56:08

meet you distros too We happen to run into

56:10

distros to just yeah sitting on the next room.

56:13

That was great Just 10

56:15

Marten comes in with twelve thousand three hundred and

56:17

forty sats and says Nick's OS was first technically

56:19

unplugged on episode 347 After

56:22

I started listening during the kovat shutdown. I didn't

56:24

understand the benefit, but now I'm all

56:26

in I'm in the technology

56:28

cord For a

56:30

small school district and I use Nick's

56:32

OS internally with plan to use

56:34

more this coming summer Oh, here's

56:37

my Nick's OS configuration. Ah Thank

56:39

you. It's been a while since we got

56:41

one of those but yeah always appreciate it

56:44

Uses the snowfall lib which provides structure and

56:46

niceties. It makes syncing between machines quick and

56:49

I find they needed settings quickly

56:52

There's on to say my task manager of choice these

56:54

days has been task warrior with task warrior web UI

56:57

Aha, and there's also a

56:59

command line version. Nick's OS and home

57:01

manager makes setup straightforward and tail scale

57:03

makes thinking across the web A-breeze

57:06

I have an iOS shortcut to add tasks on the go

57:08

and I can get sync copy of my tasks on any of

57:11

my machines Task warriors unbelievably

57:13

flexible and so far into the nerdy

57:15

category that is just plain fun Add

57:18

one digit on the end for a zip code boost

57:20

the home of Mark Twain. Ah,

57:23

man task warriors bring me back It is

57:25

super flexible. That's a nice tool. Nice

57:27

setup. Okay, um as for our zip

57:29

code boost adding the one that makes

57:31

it 63

57:35

401 which is a postal code

57:37

in Hannibal, Missouri Hannibal, Missouri shout

57:39

out to you What

57:41

do you call that when you you basically

57:43

build out a workflow like that? That's

57:45

totally custom to you but just kicks ass like

57:48

the part that really got me is the Iowa

57:50

shortcut, right? Because whatever I came up with I'd

57:52

like the wife to be able to use and

57:54

that could be a just an icon on her

57:56

Home screen and kind of like yeah, it makes

57:58

the Often that's what you You

58:00

can use the web UI maybe or a bunch of options to review

58:02

them, but if you have a way to quickly add, that solves

58:04

a major problem. What do you call that? What do

58:06

you call that custom bespoke? Bespoke. I

58:10

bet you people out in the audience have all kinds

58:12

of bespoke set up like that for various things, for

58:14

photos or for tasks or for hosting their website or

58:16

their blog. I

58:18

bet you there's a lot. I'd love to know. Boost in and tell

58:20

us what they are. Probably going to be interesting. Priestly,

58:23

we PhD boosted in with 2,669 sats

58:25

via fountains. To

58:30

the NixCon organizers, it would be nice

58:32

if you could put on your North

58:34

American conference each year alongside different Linux

58:37

and open source conventions. Not

58:39

everyone can justify a trip out to South California,

58:42

but it would be nice to see it in

58:44

other locations. I definitely hear that.

58:47

The advantage that being adjacent to scale

58:49

is not only do you have the

58:51

draw of scale, which is

58:53

going to pull a lot of people that might

58:55

not be going somewhere else, but scale

58:58

provides a lot of the infrastructure,

59:00

the location, managing that, the facilities.

59:02

They've got it down. I mean, they've really polished

59:05

that thing out now, which is good. Well,

59:07

it seemed like having an extra venue

59:09

just literally across the

59:11

way was a brilliant solution to having

59:13

them separate, but also together. Yeah,

59:16

that's a unique thing to that Pasadena Convention

59:18

Center is there's those two buildings. You can

59:20

have the main scale event in the main

59:22

building, and then you can have the adjacent

59:24

event in a building across the foyer. That's

59:29

kind of a unique arrangement as well. You could do that

59:31

on college campuses, I suppose. But

59:33

it's so much comes with running

59:35

your conference alongside a scale as

59:38

a new conference where they don't really have any

59:40

of that expertise or a team that manages that.

59:44

It's so much of a lift. Then you combine that

59:46

with the network effect of doing it when scale is

59:48

already happening. It's what drives

59:50

people to go to scale. I

59:52

mean, I hear you, Matt. In fact, to tell you the

59:54

truth, I'd kind of rather go to

59:56

Southern Carolina than I'd rather go

59:59

to Southern California. I'll

1:00:01

tell you that, but it is what

1:00:03

it is. It probably saved me quite

1:00:05

a bit of money. It's

1:00:07

really expensive there. I'm just extremely

1:00:09

grateful that the audience helped us raise the

1:00:12

funds that we could do the Airbnb, we

1:00:14

could do the trip, we could feed ourselves,

1:00:16

all of that, because typically these

1:00:19

events have been a net

1:00:21

loss for JB, and we're able to break even. And that's

1:00:23

all I need to be able to do it. We've

1:00:26

got the coverage, the content is the real value, and

1:00:29

the audience helped us do it in a way that I

1:00:31

just didn't think would be possible because

1:00:33

California is an extremely expensive place to visit. But

1:00:36

we made it happen, and we're extremely

1:00:38

grateful. I do hear you, though, it would

1:00:40

be great if it could happen somewhere else as well. Maybe have

1:00:42

multiple of them, maybe it grows to that one day. If

1:00:45

it does, I'll go to them. It's worth it.

1:00:48

BeardedZero.bin comes in with

1:00:50

ROWADUX. He says,

1:00:52

I suggest banana for scale. How

1:00:55

does Noah feel about the whole boosting business? I've

1:00:58

been slowly talking to him about it, to kind

1:01:00

of get his feel on it. We had a

1:01:03

really, really good conversation at

1:01:05

lunch. I think Noah definitely understands it

1:01:07

as a potential – you could allocate a little bit

1:01:09

of your portfolio to it and just

1:01:12

have it as a possible investment. I think he totally

1:01:14

gets that. I think he's probably held Bitcoin for

1:01:16

over a decade. I don't know for

1:01:18

sure, but I'm pretty sure about that. But as

1:01:21

far as taking boosts into the show, Noah

1:01:23

doesn't really need to monetize the Ask

1:01:25

Noah program. He's got multiple

1:01:28

day jobs. He's got

1:01:30

multiple jobs. This is

1:01:32

my full-time gig and this is what we try to do. We

1:01:36

try to make sure that everybody involved is compensated for their

1:01:38

time. We try to hire

1:01:40

the best for editing and publishing.

1:01:43

These guys all work really hard, so we have

1:01:45

a bit of a different kind of scope than

1:01:47

the Noah program does. I

1:01:50

do think eventually our friends will

1:01:52

– some of our other friends will join on board

1:01:54

because it's an open network. Anybody can join at any

1:01:56

time. They don't need permission from anyone. It's

1:01:58

absolutely one of those – You know rising

1:02:00

tide type things I

1:02:02

I hear a lot of the folks that boost into these

1:02:05

show boosting other podcasting to our shows As well, so

1:02:07

it will grow with time but these

1:02:10

things obviously have to be

1:02:12

just tried by fire and

1:02:15

we sort of burn our path and then

1:02:17

there'll be a walkway for others to follow in and We're

1:02:21

good with it We're the world's largest Linux podcast

1:02:23

by a ginormous margin and we can take this on

1:02:25

and we can forge this path and we'll be Happy

1:02:27

to do it just like we have for decades Plus,

1:02:30

I mean, we're almost on a two decades now We're

1:02:32

almost to 20 years right of doing this type of

1:02:34

thing on Jupiter broadcasting And that's

1:02:37

something that we've settled into and we will continue to

1:02:39

do especially with the outrageous great support from our members

1:02:42

and our boosters Speaking of Sam

1:02:44

H comes in with a Rilla Dugs Regarding

1:02:48

Martin Wimpress talking about creating a

1:02:50

reusable desktop flake This

1:02:52

type of thing is something I was really

1:02:54

looking for back when I was starting with

1:02:56

nyx OS and have never really found I

1:03:00

really like a bunch of Monty seems like a

1:03:02

lot of care went into it So I'm looking

1:03:04

forward to seeing whatever Martin comes up with and

1:03:06

I hope we see more desktop presets.

1:03:09

I agree Yeah, what a nice thing. I

1:03:11

I would love to live in a world where when hyperland comes out

1:03:15

They just have you know a file you

1:03:17

grab drop into your nyx config directory, whatever it

1:03:19

whatever you do Maybe it's like and

1:03:22

you just grab it and it's just immediately available when

1:03:24

they're ready, you know Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna

1:03:26

be a glorious day Glory stay

1:03:28

one day ad freeze boosted in with

1:03:30

three boosts for a total of 10,000 96 sets

1:03:37

Great coverage on scale Also

1:03:40

giving fountain the good college try overall

1:03:42

the experience is good. The UI is

1:03:44

fluid It hasn't given me too many

1:03:46

headaches and is easy to understand

1:03:48

where to find settings and elements Been

1:03:50

on for a few weeks now and it's just

1:03:53

good work from the fountain team However,

1:03:56

I'm probably going to switch back to podverse because

1:03:58

well, I just really like it which has

1:04:00

done a great job so far, and the app keeps

1:04:02

getting better. Yes, indeed, and

1:04:04

also shout out to adversaries

1:04:06

for listening live and boosting live as we go,

1:04:09

trying it out on the fountain feed. Thank

1:04:12

you very much, sir. MeninRB comes

1:04:14

in with 2,500 stats and

1:04:16

says, greetings from Bangalore, India. Wow. Again,

1:04:19

tumbleweed user here. Thanks for the

1:04:21

Sterling PDF tip, it's worked well for me.

1:04:23

Yes, Sterling PDF is one of my MVP

1:04:25

applications. A little web app, it

1:04:27

lets you do everything people would probably want

1:04:30

proprietary PDF editors for it, but because it's

1:04:32

a web app running in a Docker compose,

1:04:35

Docker container, it's available to everybody

1:04:37

on my network and everybody on my tail net. That

1:04:39

is so nice. So now we don't have to worry about any

1:04:41

of those apps. You can edit PDFs,

1:04:43

you can mark them up, you can fill

1:04:46

them out, you can convert things to PDF, all the things

1:04:48

you'd want. Sterling PDF, it's really

1:04:51

great. Bendy boosts in

1:04:53

with 5,000 cents. B-O-O-S-T.

1:04:57

Thank you so much for the Nixcom and

1:04:59

Scale coverage. Missed being there due to a

1:05:01

business trip. If there's a chance

1:05:04

to get the live streams from Scale, I would

1:05:06

love to hear them. Thanks for bringing

1:05:08

this, thanks for bringing Scale to

1:05:10

us that couldn't make it. Bendy,

1:05:13

we are trying to figure out how to publish that.

1:05:15

So that's one of the things I'm asking the audience

1:05:17

this week is how would you like to consume those?

1:05:20

We do have the Jupiter X-rays feed, which we don't use

1:05:22

much, we could publish them over there. Or

1:05:24

we could publish them in the main show feed. And

1:05:27

then I suppose my third question is, if we did

1:05:29

publish them somewhere, should they be published in

1:05:31

the all shows feed? And I wanna

1:05:33

spam people with stuff, so let

1:05:36

us know your thoughts on that. Now Eric

1:05:38

boosted in three boosts for a total, oh

1:05:40

it's actually three rows of ducks. ["Duck"]

1:05:48

Now it happens to be three identical messages, so here

1:05:50

we go. Just boosting in a pic. github.com/Docker

1:05:53

with a UR slash

1:05:56

Windows. As much as

1:05:58

I love Nix, sometimes I just need... The short lived

1:06:00

Windows Vm To run a simple Windows

1:06:03

application like the tax software I use

1:06:05

for example, the docker container that sets

1:06:07

up a T V M V M

1:06:10

and insoles windows for you spree, meet,

1:06:12

download the Iso in installs it for

1:06:14

you using the unattended insulation method is

1:06:16

only the trial license atop installed and

1:06:19

it's not cracked or pirated. At

1:06:21

all we. Got to try this. This

1:06:23

looks super handy. I mean I have

1:06:25

ten a rigged up versions of something

1:06:27

like this but having a all packets

1:06:29

ready to go a a runaway my

1:06:31

gosh at that rate for taxis and

1:06:33

honestly like that's a good reason to

1:06:35

have it. Eric thank you I'm that

1:06:38

totally check that out we will have

1:06:40

it in the shown us to was

1:06:42

good hub.com slash.you are/windows. If. You want

1:06:44

to try it? Matter. That is select.

1:06:46

What? Of What a brilliant idea. I.

1:06:48

First heard it boost in the wrong show aired

1:06:51

that link. Assassin or I will thank

1:06:53

you everybody for boosting in. That's all the booze

1:06:55

above the two thousand second of We do

1:06:57

read them all and we really appreciate everybody.

1:06:59

Who. Boost in and this week. We.

1:07:02

Had twenty three boosters across the ready

1:07:04

for this guy's forty two both. Ah,

1:07:06

and we stack two hundred. Fifty Nine

1:07:08

thousand, Five Hundred and seven. Sad, Thank

1:07:10

you everybody very much. We really appreciate

1:07:12

you and shout out to those of

1:07:14

you who just hit play in stream

1:07:16

those as we see those coming in

1:07:18

every day as well, every hour of

1:07:20

every day. Really appreciate that number of

1:07:22

as. Seven

1:07:25

or eight maybe that was honestly

1:07:27

times a thousand a figure. Two

1:07:29

are unplugged core of contributors. Really

1:07:32

present you like some play.com have a link to

1:07:34

the memberships you want. Easier for? yeah. Fun to

1:07:36

bonds and support us directly. All.

1:07:38

Of these are ways to support the show. This

1:07:40

is a value for value Production You I was.

1:07:42

I was glibly say this but I I mean

1:07:44

think about what we're doing here. I

1:07:47

haven't. I had a couple of really great conversations

1:07:49

with listeners at Scale and I don't know if

1:07:51

I totally agree, but I felt. So.

1:07:53

Really honored that they made us comparison and it

1:07:55

was. That. you guys are the

1:07:57

linux magazines of the current time

1:08:00

Hmm and I take that

1:08:02

as a serious responsibility and

1:08:04

we are also trying

1:08:06

our best to create something that is for the

1:08:08

listeners and The fact that we

1:08:10

can have the world's largest Linux podcast that is trying to

1:08:12

take that on we can go and make these connections at

1:08:14

next to con next con we go to scale we can

1:08:16

do it all based on The

1:08:19

value that we received from our audience directly

1:08:21

The fact that we can kind of even

1:08:23

begin to pretend to try to be at

1:08:25

the category of Linux magazines Without all this

1:08:27

corporate influence and meddling going on in the

1:08:29

back end. It is So

1:08:32

much simpler and so much

1:08:34

straight more straightforward and so much more sustainable this way,

1:08:37

right? What really killed these Linux magazines was

1:08:39

our cost structure and their corporate structure. We

1:08:42

don't have those same problems Hmm and

1:08:45

so yeah, it means we have a we have a

1:08:47

we have a smaller lift But as

1:08:50

a value-for-value podcast, it means we can do

1:08:52

something that I think is Sustainable

1:08:54

for the long term and we can do it

1:08:56

with a technology stack that is an open network

1:08:58

that is available to anybody That

1:09:01

is all built on open source and that's

1:09:03

where the boost come in and that's where you come in and

1:09:05

you can also become a member Directly, but does

1:09:07

that mean we're gonna start shipping live distro DVDs

1:09:10

to members as well We

1:09:12

should Nick's OS presets. Yeah presets As

1:09:17

we work on stuff, I mean we kind of are

1:09:20

in that it was one of my favorite things about

1:09:22

the magazines was getting the DVDs cuz you know bad

1:09:24

connections back in the day, right? well, maybe you could

1:09:26

do something along those lines for people who are you

1:09:28

know on the higher end of the Contributing

1:09:33

members like maybe once a year do like some

1:09:35

kind of deluxe thing, which is a USB

1:09:39

or a disc that has become a

1:09:41

happy a district. Well, yeah, but

1:09:43

it'd be fun But a

1:09:45

disc that has you know, you're an interesting

1:09:47

Linux distro of the year plus a

1:09:50

selection of the year's You know top hits of

1:09:52

episodes or whatever right? You saw that DVD burner,

1:09:54

right? Oh, I actually have a couple No,

1:10:00

no, I don't want to do that. Brad just be

1:10:02

cranking him out. Yeah, sounds like

1:10:04

a good plan. All right, good meeting, good meeting. Thank

1:10:06

you, everybody who supports this production. It means

1:10:08

a lot, and we really appreciate it. Two

1:10:12

picks. I shouldn't do it, but I'm doing it. I

1:10:14

had a bit of a gaming-focused week

1:10:17

when I got, well, a couple of days when I got back. You

1:10:21

know, catching up with the kids, testing out the laptop, it

1:10:23

was a great time. Tired of driving. Somebody's got to do

1:10:25

the hard work and relax and play video games with the

1:10:27

kids. And I had my

1:10:29

bacon saved this week by AT Launcher.

1:10:31

So my kids love the Minecraft mods.

1:10:33

And some of those Minecraft mod managers

1:10:35

are really focused on Windows. And

1:10:38

so if you've got your kids on Linux, and they're asking

1:10:40

for these types of things, and you're constantly trying to find

1:10:42

these apps to get them to work under

1:10:44

Linux, check out AT Launcher. It'll integrate

1:10:46

with multiple different mod packs to allow you

1:10:48

to download and install those and quickly deploy

1:10:50

them. It'll get the right version of Minecraft all set up,

1:10:53

including things like some of the texture packs as

1:10:56

well. Wow. I'm gonna go and interface

1:10:58

across multiple different mod pack repos. And

1:11:00

save my bacon, because I was trying to get

1:11:02

the cursed launcher, whatever the crap it is. I

1:11:06

just wouldn't work on this. I tried the flat pack. I

1:11:08

don't know it was an app image. I tried the app image, which

1:11:11

got me kind of far. I tried the one

1:11:13

package in Nix. Just wasn't working, wasn't working. Grab

1:11:16

AT Launcher off flat hub, boom. Works

1:11:18

right away, Wes. That's so nice too, when

1:11:20

you're sort of playing casual, occasional support.

1:11:22

I'm not an expert in Minecraft

1:11:25

launchers. I sort of reverse

1:11:27

engineering how this works. You gotta go figure

1:11:29

out the whole culture on Minecraft launchers. Yeah,

1:11:31

it's a thing, it's a thing. And

1:11:34

then, because you can't deny that people use

1:11:36

Discord, it is a thing that is happening in the

1:11:39

real world. Discord is a thing,

1:11:41

but I can deny Electron. Friends,

1:11:44

I present you Descent. Yeah,

1:11:46

there we go. Descent, I don't know. I

1:11:49

like Descent. Descent, I think, is probably

1:11:51

what it is. And it is a

1:11:53

GTK4 Discord client, written in

1:11:55

Go. Ooh, that should be snappy. Lean

1:11:57

mean and snappy, Wes. Lean mean and

1:11:59

snappy. I'm gonna have to try this, you know,

1:12:01

like I don't know discourse fine. I have no love

1:12:03

for it I don't think I mean I'm not pulled

1:12:05

that strongly But I do have some friend groups who

1:12:07

game and when they're you know, get me in and

1:12:09

chatting on discord Yeah, as one does and I use

1:12:11

it just infrequently enough that I've always got a new

1:12:13

Deb to download or you know I have to reinstall

1:12:15

the thing every darn time. I wonder

1:12:17

if this will work just work for me Yeah, this just if you

1:12:20

do have to update it's just a flat pack update away If

1:12:22

you're running on software might just do it for you doesn't

1:12:24

have all the features Wait a minute discord doesn't

1:12:27

allow third-party clients. So don't tell them about it

1:12:29

then because it works great Yeah, well, I mean

1:12:31

I'm just saying if they detect it, they'll just

1:12:33

straight up disable your account Alright,

1:12:36

well use it at your own risk. So I installed

1:12:38

it and I found it pretty useful I bet

1:12:41

I'm not a heavy discord user So I'm sure it probably

1:12:43

doesn't do some of the streaming stuff or I'm sure it

1:12:45

doesn't do some things But if you're just looking to like

1:12:47

respond to chats and stuff I'll use

1:12:49

until they ban my account, you know it and

1:12:52

then when they ban my account, I'll cry about it Yeah,

1:12:54

that is a good note. They do make a note of that

1:12:56

too over on the github review which will have linked I love

1:12:58

it when when that kind of stuff happens, you know So,

1:13:01

you know just your ban my account. That's fine.

1:13:04

I didn't want to use your service anyways, right? Didn't want

1:13:06

to use it All right. Well, we're gonna wrap up there

1:13:08

But just a reminder we'd like to hear how you would

1:13:10

prefer to consume those live shows when we do put them

1:13:12

out They're I mean, they're not all crap. They might be

1:13:14

worth downloading. How would you like to download them? If you

1:13:16

were going to also if you

1:13:18

have any suggestions for a 14-inch laptop with

1:13:20

a dedicated GPU Boost

1:13:22

that in too. I'd like it to be Semi-current

1:13:25

and not a million bucks not,

1:13:27

you know Not sitting here. I

1:13:30

know I might be I might be asking for too

1:13:32

much I could be asking for too much and you

1:13:34

know, maybe if you have like a desktop configuration and

1:13:36

nix you want to boost in We

1:13:39

can see about trying something. Yeah, especially hyperland.

1:13:41

I don't see people hyperland setups I

1:13:43

really think that should be a thing. We need like

1:13:45

a dedicated like github repo where we start sharing these or

1:13:48

something Yeah, you boost us in a link to your

1:13:50

flake and we it's got an output we can yeah And

1:13:52

we add that to our repo or I

1:13:54

don't know. I don't know. Let's get let's think about

1:13:56

this You you start brainstorming. We'll

1:13:58

start brainstorming. I think there's something we could do there.

1:14:01

I think there's something there. We'll also be

1:14:03

live in our regular Bat-Time next Sunday

1:14:05

at noon Pacific 3 p.m. Eastern over

1:14:07

JBLive.tv. See you next week. Same

1:14:09

Bat-Time, same Bat-Station. And now live

1:14:12

in a Podcasting 2.0 app.

1:14:14

So if you get a new podcast app not only

1:14:16

do you get extra features, you also now can listen

1:14:18

in live. It'll just show up in your feed when

1:14:20

we are. We'll also put pending in there. We'll

1:14:23

put it in there a day or two before

1:14:25

we start so you can see it in there.

1:14:27

You can schedule it in. You can pencil it

1:14:29

into your busy social calendar schedule thing. No excuses.

1:14:31

They're busy Wes. Just kidding. They're busy

1:14:33

so don't pressure them. Links

1:14:38

to what we talked about today at

1:14:41

linuxunplugged.com/five five five. Never gonna get

1:14:43

to say that again. That was pretty fun. Well maybe

1:14:45

one more time. Thanks for joining us on episode five

1:14:47

five five of the Unplugged program and we'll see you

1:14:49

right back here. you