Join us on this episode of LitPM for an insightful chat with our homie Ben! He went from the first Risk hire at Gusto to a Product Manager, and he's sharing his journey with us. Learn how he navigated the transition, talked to his boss, and identified the perfect company for career growth. We'll also delve into the highs and lows of product management and how Ben's now using his experience to start his own company. If you're aiming for a career shift, this episode is a must-listen. Hit play and enjoy!

Timestamps:

• (2:56) - Introduction and background

• (7:47) - Thinking about breaking into product

• (13:14) - Identifying a company that will allow growth into a product role

• (18:32) - Finessing the internal transition into Product

• (33:50) - Biggest fallacies in product and learning gaps

• (37:15) - Leaving product and how to explore early ideas as a Founder