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I don't know what you people are doing, but
0:02
you are you're really barking up the wrong
0:05
tree. We're asking questions. Sir, I have
0:07
nothing to say to you. A student in your program got taken
0:09
advantage of. Sir, you got about five seconds to get off my
0:11
feet. If you're asking us to leave, we're leaving. I'm definitely telling
0:13
you to leave. Not a problem. This is probably the problem. We're
0:15
asking questions as journalists. We are not doing anything more
0:18
than that. We are simply asking questions as journalists. We
0:20
called you on the phone. You are on private property.
0:22
You called me off the phone on us. You asked
0:24
us to leave. We're leaving. You then chased us. You
0:26
are on private... No. I chased you nowhere. I am
0:28
in my right here. This is this
0:30
is my property. You don't care about a young girl.
0:32
I don't care about your story. Who you were responsible
0:34
for. She was under
0:37
your care, correct? No. She
0:40
would never be alone with a convicted
0:42
criminal. Oh no. There's still children that
0:44
were taken care of. Just to be
0:46
clear, like we're talking like minor high
0:48
school students will be alone with criminals
0:50
in jail. Yeah,
0:53
I mean they have any reason why we do because they
0:55
hired 18. So
0:57
they're getting experience before they become an adult.
1:00
Yes, I'm aware that if you're intent
1:02
on doing something, it's almost impossible to stop.
1:06
As long as I've been here, I've had
1:08
correction officers engaged in sexual activity within the
1:10
facility and been prosecuted. We've sent people to
1:12
prison for that. And one thing I know
1:14
is that if somebody is intent on doing
1:16
something, it's very hard to stop it
1:18
completely because you can move around. And while
1:20
an officer is doing his rounds, you can
1:22
step inside a cell for a very short
1:24
period of time, engage in some nefarious activity.
1:27
Like brain contraband or something like that. Well,
1:29
believe the person is now 18. There
1:32
was at all times in
1:34
this particular incident, there was another officer
1:36
in that pod. I'm happy to be with you. I'm
1:39
AJ. I'm John. Just a couple of relations coordinator here. A
1:41
couple of relations, okay. Do you want to go? I'll be
1:43
on the ballot with the speaker. I
1:45
would prefer to speak on behalf of the district. So
1:47
as of last year then, have the program just ends?
1:49
Is it the sheriff's office has stopped it? Because from
1:52
my understanding, the sheriff's office told me that after they
1:54
learned the incident, they were the one for the stop.
1:56
No, that's not something that I'm aware of. That would
1:58
be a question that I'm... for
2:00
the sheriff's office. And that's something that, I
2:02
mean, are you aware that the sheriff's office
2:04
is no longer as
2:07
far as? Well, I believe
2:09
that we temporarily suspended it. Hey,
2:11
I can connect you down to
2:13
his office. However, we are on summer
2:15
break, so. We
2:19
really have skeleton crew here right
2:21
now. We'll try
2:23
the spine guard
2:25
and safety fan. I'm
2:28
getting to try one more person. Hold on.
2:31
The person at extension, 4-1-1-7, is
2:33
unavailable. So
2:38
no students, I can tell her that. No students
2:40
been assaulted through Butler Tech at the jail. Correct.
2:43
OK, well, thank goodness, man. So what happened
2:45
with the s***? Excuse
2:49
me? I
2:52
can't speak on students. I'll
2:55
give you my email address. And
2:59
you can send me an email with the
3:01
particulars that you know. I
3:03
will go through the proper channels with
3:05
Marshall Service headquarters to see what
3:08
information we can relay to you. But I
3:10
also believe with very respectfully
3:12
that you need to do a FOIA
3:14
request asking information. If there was an
3:16
investigation done by the Marshall Service, if
3:19
something's that effect, what information can
3:22
they provide you? I don't know if this jogs
3:24
your memory at all. Willie Attaway and Larkin McGowan
3:27
are the federal inmates involved. So there is a
3:29
record of this. Are
3:31
those people you'd be familiar with? Hardened, criminals?
3:36
I have no comment, sir.
3:39
If you did a similar language, we received an
3:41
email, and we are opening the investigation,
3:43
and this is better, and we hope we
3:45
are reaching out for a grand parade and
3:47
further an investigation. Are you able to confirm
3:50
that you are not aware of this
3:52
prior to us letting you know? Well,
3:56
what I can say is based on
3:58
what you guys advise. at
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Butler Tech, an alternative
8:02
learning institution spaced in Hamilton,
8:04
Ohio. Now, we,
8:07
of course, are not going to reveal the name
8:09
of this person because she's
8:11
a minor, and she's
8:13
a victim of the incompetency of
8:16
her program's leadership and the jail's correctional
8:18
staff within the Butler County Sheriff's Department.
8:22
According to Butler Tech's website, students
8:24
on the criminal justice track will put
8:27
on a uniform and uphold the law
8:29
of the land with a future in
8:31
criminal justice and explore
8:34
all angles of law enforcement from police
8:36
training to court proceedings, forensics, and
8:38
investigations to crisis response. As part of
8:41
the internship program, this Jane Doe was
8:44
placed in the Butler County
8:46
Jail. Now, it should be noted until
8:48
2021, Butler County worked with ICE
8:51
to house immigrants while their asylum cases
8:53
were pending. For the first time in about 17
8:55
years, Butler County Sheriff's Office will
8:57
no longer work with ICE to jail
9:00
immigrants. The Sheriff terminated the contract with
9:02
the Department of Homeland Security this week.
9:05
WCPO 9 News reporter Courtney Francisco found
9:07
out what this means for people held
9:09
prisoner under the old contract.
9:12
Life inside Butler County Jail's immigrant quarters
9:15
will change over the next 60 days,
9:17
attorneys say. Immigrants will get released. Butler
9:20
County received a hefty sum
9:22
to do so. In 2017,
9:24
the Marshals made a deal with the jail for $8.2
9:27
million over five years to
9:30
house ICE detainees. In 2017, WCPO's
9:33
investigative team told you the federal government used
9:35
taxpayer dollars to pay the jail about $8.2
9:37
million over five years to
9:40
house ICE detainees. After somewhere around
9:42
17 years, the Butler County Jail ended
9:45
their contract with the Department of
9:47
Homeland Security citing that federal officials
9:49
continue to add unreasonable and cost
9:51
prohibitive mandates. Now, our source
9:54
indicated that the Butler County Jail now receives
9:56
$10 million in federal funding to house federal
9:58
inmates on behalf of the state. of the
10:00
U.S. Marshals. We did find a
10:02
2014 contract agreement between the United States
10:04
Marshals Service and the Butler
10:07
County Jail signed by current Sheriff Richard
10:09
Jones, which showed
10:11
a deal totaling $8.4 million.
10:14
That means that when Jane Doe started
10:16
her program, it was known she
10:19
would be working in proximity with
10:21
federal inmates, including, again, hardened criminals
10:23
guilty of everything up to and
10:25
including murder. Now, while
10:27
that may seem questionable, it could,
10:29
figuratively, all have been done above
10:32
board if all the
10:34
proper procedures had been
10:36
followed. They were not followed. And
10:39
what happened as a result cannot
10:42
be considered anything close to above
10:44
board. So according to our source,
10:46
Jane Doe, a high school student, a minor at
10:49
the time, was routinely
10:51
left unsupervised in the facility
10:54
with, again, hardened inmates. For reference,
10:56
here's a photo of where Jane
10:58
Doe might have worked during
11:01
her time in the program. Now, this minor
11:04
female, a girl, was then
11:06
coerced over the course of her
11:08
internship into smuggling contraband, including drugs,
11:10
cell phones, and cigarettes. However,
11:13
that pales in comparison to what
11:15
happened between Jane
11:18
Doe, this minor female,
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and two inmates, Willie
11:22
Attaway and Larkin McGowan. Attaway
11:25
is being held at Butler County
11:27
for murdering the owner of a
11:29
store during armed robbery. A man
11:31
pleads guilty to murdering a convenience
11:33
store owner and five other armed
11:35
robberies in all. The robbery is
11:37
happening in Hamilton, Lebanon, Deerfield Township,
11:39
Blue Ash, and Madeira. 32-year-old Willie
11:41
James Attaway, now admitting to
11:43
murdering the owner of the Madeira Beverage. This
11:46
was back in February of
11:48
2021. And again, he pleaded guilty today. It was
11:50
one of the five places he robbed over a
11:52
two-day period after Attaway killed
11:54
this owner. He then went on
11:56
to rob two more convenience stores that very night.
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He faces up to four. 45
12:00
years behind bars. That's just the cherry
12:03
on top of a long history containing
12:05
criminal drug charges, domestic abuse.
12:08
You can read up on it. Now, McGowan has
12:10
a criminal history of violent crimes, including burglary,
12:13
aggravated robbery, you know, the
12:16
run of the mill stuff. According to
12:18
our source, these inmates actively
12:22
manipulated, groomed and coerced Jane
12:24
Doe into sexual
12:26
acts, including not
12:28
limited to sodomy. These
12:31
claims are supported by letters
12:36
that we have obtained between Jane Doe and
12:39
the inmates. Now, the letters, which we
12:41
are about to show you, were shared exclusively with the
12:43
Mug Club Undercover Unit by one of our viewers. And
12:45
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12:47
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13:09
you. Let's take a look at
13:12
some examples of the
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correspondence between
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the hardened federal inmates and
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young girl. This one here reads
13:21
as a masterclass in
13:24
manipulation written by Larkin McGowan
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to Jane Doe. It
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says, baby, I apologize about earlier. I
13:30
just don't want you to fuck up
13:32
what you got going on for one
13:35
of these clowns. Like I said
13:37
before, talk too much.
13:40
He already told everybody he got your Instagram.
13:43
It's cool to talk, but don't be too
13:45
friendly because start thinking
13:47
other shit. They
13:50
think you talking to them means that you like them
13:52
and you my bitch. So I can't
13:55
have that. And about
13:57
what I asked you last week about the new ports,
13:59
it's really simple. You won't
14:01
get in trouble if you listen to me and do it the
14:03
right way. You can literally just put them
14:05
in your bra until you get in. Here's
14:08
another one. The Jane Doe from
14:10
Willie Attaway, a.k.a. Bear, a.k.a.
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convicted murderer. Bay?
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My name Bear. I'm 32
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years old. I have no kids. I'm
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from Cincinnati. I grew up
14:23
downtown. I'm looking for someone I
14:25
can build with, get to know, and start a future.
14:29
Someone that's for me, like I'm for them. Someone
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I can call my person. And Attaway
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writes like this for pages and
14:37
pages, including, I just want
14:39
to be as safe as possible and I really want
14:41
to build with you. I'm not
14:43
in this relationship to use you or hurt you.
14:47
Only time I'll hurt you is when we make love. But
14:50
it will be more pleasure than pain. And
14:53
if that weren't romantic enough, write down an
14:55
address. I can get at
14:57
you at and that cash app
15:00
so I can keep them nails and sexy
15:02
ass feet done. Let's
15:04
turn up. I'm not playing with you at all. I'm
15:07
locking you down. You mine. You
15:09
my baby. I'm your dude. Write
15:12
me back ASAP to
15:14
my queen from your king. In
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one particularly graphic letter to
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Jane Doe, he writes, make
15:23
sure you write your phone number down on
15:25
a small piece of paper, ball
15:27
it up real small, and when you
15:29
do your rounds, flick it in my cell. My
15:32
celly is my homie from the streets, so we
15:34
good, and you ain't got to have no worries
15:36
dealing with us at all. It's
15:38
the others you got to be careful about.
15:41
So is you trying to be wifey or what?
15:43
Do you want to ride my f***s and big b***?
15:46
Can you handle 11 inches? Another
15:49
jam, a list of get to know you questions from
15:51
who we presume, based on the less
15:54
than stellar handwriting, is Larkin McGowan
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reads, Do
16:00
you talk to three? Can you see yourself
16:02
being with me when I get out? Four
16:06
why you be entertaining these dumb ass n****s
16:08
in here? Five, what
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do you like most about me? Six
16:13
do you s*** or a s***? Seven
16:16
have you ever been to Columbus? Eight,
16:19
what's your favorite position? P.S.
16:21
I was excited to see you today, and
16:23
I'm a call tonight between 9 and 9
16:26
30 and please stop accepting notes from these n****s.
16:30
And the s*** I be doing in my
16:32
cell and in the shower, you can't do
16:34
that with other people because you minds only.
16:37
Remember Jane Doe is a minor,
16:40
a girl. Of course these acts couldn't go unpunished. She
16:43
was charged with multiple crimes including a
16:45
class three felony. Attaway Jr.
16:48
and McGowan? They
16:50
haven't faced any punishment yet, but
16:52
there is an ongoing C-10 investigation
16:55
according to Chief Deputy Dwyer, and
16:57
according to Ohio.gov, a C-10 violation in
17:00
this case means that even if found
17:02
guilty, the inmates could really
17:04
face nothing more than a restriction of certain
17:06
privileges for a designated
17:08
period of time. Justice is served. So
17:16
in order to corroborate what the source
17:18
had given us, we
17:20
FOIA'd the incident report as well
17:22
as any communications between Jane Doe and
17:24
the inmates. We were successful with
17:27
the incident report confirming a
17:29
relationship between this girl,
17:31
Jane Doe, and the inmates, but
17:33
were denied the letters or any other forms of
17:36
communication. So naturally we had more than a few
17:38
questions, namely what
17:41
kind of a program, what
17:44
kind of a publicly funded program would
17:47
leave minors unattended
17:49
with murderers? We
17:54
reached out to Butler Tech for answers, and
17:57
what we got included a slew of contradictory questions. conflicting
18:00
answers across 24 separate phone
18:03
calls. First spoke
18:05
with Butler tech secretary Lacey Homan, who
18:08
assured us that under no
18:11
circumstances would a minor
18:13
ever be left alone in
18:15
this kind of a situation. So wait, so
18:17
you said they do a tour, but they're
18:19
not, she would never be alone with a
18:21
convicted criminal. Oh, thank God. So
18:25
I can promise her that there is never
18:27
going to be a situation where she would
18:29
be alone with some like hardened criminal. Correct.
18:32
Oh, thank goodness. Correct. So,
18:35
yes, they are. That's
18:39
great. So what kind of safety
18:41
measures do you guys have in place? Like, I think that's cool.
18:43
They get to see the jail and all, but like, obviously they
18:45
would be like supervised by, is that someone from Butler tech
18:47
that goes with them on the jail tour?
18:49
Yeah, they're criminal justice instructor goes and then
18:52
normally there's one or two other
18:54
chaperones. Incorrect. We
18:57
agree these are children. This
19:01
is not what we would call taken care of. So
19:03
next we reached out to the head of
19:05
the program, Aaron Fitzgerald, who
19:08
told us that while interns may from
19:10
time to time be left
19:12
alone, nothing bad
19:15
has ever happened as a result. Would
19:17
a student ever be alone with a criminal
19:20
in the jail? Yes.
19:25
If they're interning. If
19:27
they're interning. Okay, okay. So that's something you
19:29
get in, like, how do you go from
19:32
because she's 17 and she's like
19:34
so psyched for this. Yeah. I
19:36
mean, I select those students who are going to do the internships
19:38
their senior year. I mean, yes, they are.
19:40
They will be. I mean, those students who
19:43
do the internship as a jail, they will be working
19:45
in a full fledged facility.
19:49
That's like without supervision. I
19:52
mean, there will be there with officers, but I mean,
19:54
will there be times where you might be, you know,
19:58
alone with the inmates? I mean,
20:00
that possibility exists. OK. I
20:03
mean, so I mean, I just being real with you,
20:05
I can, you know. I appreciate it. I mean, that's
20:07
what I'm trying to, I'm just trying to
20:09
put out the fire. I
20:11
mean, there's all going to be all kinds
20:13
of paperwork before we do the internships that
20:16
they would have to sign. Just to be
20:18
clear, like we're talking like minor high school
20:20
students will be alone with criminals in jail?
20:24
Yeah, I mean, they have the reason why we do it, because
20:26
they hired 18. So
20:28
they're getting experience before they become an adult?
20:31
Yes. Why wouldn't you guys just? A
20:34
lot of our programs have internships. I mean, you
20:36
know, welding, fire, you know, IT.
20:38
I mean, and you know, here's the thing, I
20:40
can kind of like, I mean, there's probably there's
20:42
probably never been like an incident, right? I
20:47
mean, I mean,
20:49
we, anybody
20:51
can tell you that. But I mean, it's a
20:54
jail facility. So things, you know. Things
20:56
can happen, right? Things happen in
20:58
jail. No students ever died? Can I tell
21:00
her that? Yeah.
21:02
Anything like been assaulted, anything
21:04
like that? No. OK,
21:08
good. So no students, I can tell her that.
21:10
No students been assaulted through Butler Tech at
21:12
the jail. Correct. Finally,
21:14
we spoke with Butler County Chief Deputy Anthony
21:16
Dwyer, who told us that not only were
21:18
the interns left alone, but
21:22
something bad actually did
21:24
happen. What was incorrect about what I
21:27
had stated in my voicemail? Once
21:31
again, it's a pending criminal case. The
21:35
person in this case, the juvenile has been
21:37
charged. Did you know
21:39
that? Yeah. The juvenile was
21:41
charged with, it was conveyance
21:43
of a contraband, essentially. Yeah,
21:46
that was the original charge. And then there's
21:48
an underlying discussion about the other physical things
21:50
that went on in the facility with this
21:52
juvenile. We then tried to get some answers,
21:55
some help from
21:57
Hamilton High School, who shares
21:59
a campus. with Butler Tech. Unfortunately,
22:02
we got the runaround from HHS as
22:04
well until we were finally called back
22:07
by Principal Zari, who outright
22:10
denied any affiliation. Were
22:12
you made aware of this situation? The
22:19
Butler Tech criminal justice program is
22:21
not a satellite program here at
22:23
our campus. The program
22:25
was not made up of names cut and dry, except it
22:27
was promptly contradicted by
22:29
the Hamilton School Board. Hamilton
22:33
City Board of Education. Hey
22:35
there, I was just calling to see if
22:37
y'all were affiliated with Butler Tech Vocational School?
22:42
Yes, there's like a program
22:44
that has school kids' cake.
22:47
Awesome. So my kid wants to
22:50
do criminal justice. I
22:52
heard they got a great program there at Butler Tech. Yes.
23:01
So now we have a harrowing,
23:04
hair-raising incident involving a girl,
23:08
violent federal inmates, including a murderer, and
23:12
the high school can't help. I guess they're not responsible. The
23:15
tech school can't help. I guess they're not responsible. The
23:18
local sheriff's department can't help. I
23:21
guess they're not responsible. Maybe you could
23:23
argue that since this
23:26
involves federal prisoners under the
23:28
supervision of U.S. Marshals, they
23:30
should be the ones to deal with it. The
23:32
big question that we had as we continued
23:35
down this path is, did
23:37
they even know when
23:39
Chief Deputy Dwyer contacted my team on Monday,
23:41
June 17th, he told
23:44
us that he was almost
23:46
positive, the Marshals. They knew. Who
23:49
was made aware of this situation? Everyone
23:55
that's involved in this is aware, obviously
23:57
the Juvenile. So the Marshals, they're... the
24:00
kids, the kids family. You know, I can't confirm.
24:02
I'm almost positive that they spoke to the marshals
24:04
and notified them of the incident. Unfortunately,
24:08
when we spoke with
24:10
the very helpful, by the way,
24:13
Assistant Chief Deputy US Marshal Melissa Duffy, who
24:16
our source indicated was responsible
24:18
for the inmates initially,
24:21
she indicated that the marshals,
24:24
in fact, did not know. And
24:27
as a result of now knowing they were
24:29
launching an investigation, If
24:31
you decide to receive a female and
24:33
we are opening an investigation, that's just
24:36
matter. And we look forward to their
24:38
program to raise their further investigation. Are
24:40
you able to confirm that you were
24:42
not aware of this prior to us
24:44
letting you know? We were
24:46
not aware. Two days later, June 17, Duffy
24:49
informed us that the US marshals would be providing
24:52
a written statement and assured
24:54
us that they were taking the matter very
24:56
seriously. I just wanted
24:59
to confirm that you
25:01
weren't aware of this before we
25:03
called or brought it to your attention, right? Well,
25:06
what I can say is, based
25:09
on what you guys advised us
25:11
of on Friday, we are formalizing
25:13
a written response that
25:15
once it gets approval from Marshal
25:18
Service headquarters, I will forward to
25:20
you. OK. But
25:22
outside of the official response,
25:25
I want to say thank you for bringing this to
25:27
our attention. And I mean, very, we
25:30
are concerned. I can say that. And
25:34
we understand the sensitivity of the matter. And
25:37
hence why we are doing a written statement
25:39
that is going, it's
25:42
coming out between the Marshal
25:44
Service here, Southern Ohio and
25:46
Marshal Service headquarters. OK, great.
25:49
And as soon as I receive that, as
25:51
from my senior management
25:53
here locally, which I am a part of,
25:55
obviously, we will forward
25:57
it on. sure
26:00
that you receive it. As of this
26:02
recording, we
26:05
are still waiting to receive the
26:08
letter. Now during that
26:10
same call Dwyer also
26:13
downplayed Jane Doe's status as a
26:15
minor and
26:18
altogether the seriousness of the situation. I
26:20
don't know who you've talked to but generally with
26:22
a pending criminal case we don't talk much about
26:24
those. I also want to make sure that things
26:26
are accurate, that you're getting the right information and
26:28
not, I'm assuming as
26:31
a journalist you want to have
26:33
accurate information that you can
26:35
report. Yes sir, 100%. Right
26:37
and like I said when I listen to the message,
26:40
that's not accurate. Can we talk off the record?
26:43
I don't really know you sir, are you a
26:45
journalist or everyone that's involved in this is aware.
26:47
Obviously the juvenile... So the
26:49
marshals, the kids family. I
26:52
can't confirm, I'm almost positive that they spoke to
26:54
the marshals and notified them of the incident. I've
26:56
been involved in this for quite a while in
26:59
the jail and I'm aware that
27:01
if you're intent on doing something it's almost impossible
27:03
to stop. As long as I've
27:05
been here I've had correctional officers
27:07
engaged in sexual activity within the facility and been
27:09
prosecuted. We've sent people to prison for that and
27:12
one thing I know is that if
27:14
somebody is intent on doing something it's
27:16
very hard to stop it completely
27:18
because you can move around and while
27:20
an officer is doing his round you can
27:23
step inside a cell for a very short
27:25
period of time and engage in some nefarious
27:27
activity like brain contraband or something like that.
27:29
So it is difficult to stop that 100%.
27:32
This was a particularly alarming situation to us because
27:34
of the age of the student in question. I
27:37
believe the person is now 18. Copy
27:41
that. Well as far, I mean my
27:44
sources indicate that that's not the case but
27:46
you know we can double check that. Has
27:48
there been any change to the policy? Is
27:50
there anything that's changed as far as you
27:52
know supervisory roles inside the facility that could
27:55
prevent this sort of thing from happening again?
27:57
Well, and that's what I mentioned
27:59
to you earlier. when somebody
28:01
decides to go down that path,
28:03
it's virtually impossible to stop it
28:05
completely. The only information we have
28:08
during the interview was a consensual encounter
28:10
with an inmate. We
28:12
have the letters written between these two
28:14
federal inmates, Larkin McGowan and Willie Attaway.
28:16
We know what went on, sir. And
28:18
if you have those, we would appreciate
28:20
you sharing those with us, because it
28:22
might lead to the criminal case. You
28:24
have them, too. Letters
28:27
between two inmates? Yes, and the phone calls.
28:30
We understand there's video of her being sodomized
28:32
by these men on her cell phone. So
28:34
you're telling me there was a guard in
28:36
the earshot of this? There
28:39
was, at all times, from my understanding
28:41
of the investigation, another officer inside the
28:43
pod. I don't think that's accurate. I
28:45
think there was another cell phone involved,
28:47
and I don't believe that they authenticated
28:49
any video of the actual incident occurring,
28:52
that that's two separate issues. There
28:54
is a taped interview with her that is in
28:56
court as we speak, where you
28:58
have the whole interview of them talking to
29:00
her. At first, she denies the allegation, and
29:03
then she continues on to make other admissions.
29:05
And there is a fool that
29:07
is taped, and that is actually currently
29:10
in the court system now. There's a motion to
29:12
suppress her statement, and they've had
29:14
a first hearing, and there's another hearing pending. Who
29:16
filed the motion to suppress her statement? Excuse
29:19
me? Who filed the motion to
29:21
suppress her statement? Her attorney. If
29:23
somebody wants to come here so we can exchange
29:26
that information or receive it, yes,
29:28
we would take any information if it's relevant to
29:30
the case. Obviously, we want to get to the
29:32
truth of the matter, and I
29:34
believe at the time they did have her
29:36
phone, and they scanned her phone, so we
29:38
have all that. So if there's something else,
29:40
and I was aware of another video that
29:42
I believe is unrelated, but
29:45
yes, if somebody wants to bring information
29:47
in there and share it,
29:49
I'd appreciate that. Now, while we
29:51
were in Butler County, my team also visited
29:54
Butler Tech. Unfortunately, the place
29:56
was largely a ghost town with only
29:58
a secretary who knew very little. but
30:01
still looking for answers. The Mugg Club Undercover Unit
30:03
visited the home of Butler Tech
30:06
program lead Aaron Fitzgerald and
30:09
that is when the following exchange took
30:11
place. Hi,
30:20
I'm Aaron Fischel. Yes. Who are you
30:22
with, sir? I don't know with
30:24
Crowder. You're loud or with Crowder? What's your name? My name
30:27
is... What's your name?
30:29
I'm not gonna give you a last name right now.
30:31
Again, Aaron, you're the one we're asking questions to. Do
30:33
not contact myself again. Okay. Definitely
30:36
do not come to my property again. Okay.
30:38
Okay. I don't know what you people
30:40
are doing, but you are... you're really
30:42
barking up on the tree. We're asking
30:45
questions. Sir, I have nothing to say to you. A
30:47
student in your program got taken advantage of. Sir, you
30:49
got about five seconds to get off my feet. If
30:51
you're asking us to leave, we're leaving. Definitely telling you to
30:53
leave and not ever come back. I understand. The
31:02
nerve on... Now I'm
31:04
not on your property. Now we can stop. As
31:07
you are, this is the private interest group. It's
31:09
the private interest group? It's signs up front. We
31:11
have no business being here. Do not come back.
31:13
We will trespass. You've already told me that. I
31:15
already understand it. You're the one who came off
31:17
your property? This right here... no. I asked you
31:19
a question. This is private property. We are asking
31:21
questions as journalists. We are not doing anything more than
31:23
that. We are simply asking questions as journalists. We
31:26
called you on the phone. You are on private property. You
31:28
all make the phone on us. You asked us to leave.
31:30
We're leaving. You then chased us. You are on... I
31:32
know. I chased you nowhere. I am in my right
31:35
here. This is my property. That's
31:37
it. Are you saying you're in the program for
31:39
private... This is my property. This
31:42
is my property. This neighborhood is completely private.
31:44
You have no business here. My business was
31:46
to come talk to you. You asked me
31:48
to leave. So now we're leaving. Your business
31:50
is not to come talk to me. Please
31:53
do not contact me on my personal cell phone.
31:55
Do not ever come back to my house. The
31:57
story is coming out next week. I don't care.
32:00
I will tell you from the other side. You don't care about a young
32:02
girl. You don't care about a young girl. You don't care about a young
32:04
girl. You don't care about your story. You don't care about a young girl.
32:06
I don't care about your story. Who you were responsible for. She was under
32:08
your care, correct? No. Do not ever come
32:10
to my home again. Understood. So
32:20
with all that, a lot of questions still
32:25
remain. Only all of
32:27
them? Including
32:31
the ones that I'm sure are bothering you.
32:34
Is this program still
32:36
ongoing? And if it
32:38
is, have any changes been made to ensure the
32:40
safety of the students,
32:43
people involved? Who's
32:45
in charge of the safety? What
32:47
changes have been made? What
32:50
accountability has taken place? Who
32:52
is actually in charge of running an
32:54
investigation once an incident like this has
32:56
already taken place and ensuring that it
32:58
doesn't take place again?
33:01
Are you seeing how this could happen in any community
33:04
across the United States? Not just
33:06
with this type of a program, but any publicly
33:10
funded, taxpayer funded
33:13
program. It seems
33:15
that any time public funding
33:17
or grants are involved, people have a
33:20
vested interest in ensuring that that continues.
33:24
But where do you go? As
33:26
a tax paying citizen. For
33:29
accountability. For answers. When
33:32
your public servants aren't actually
33:34
serving you. Where
33:37
do you go when your public servants are actually
33:39
serving you up? To
33:42
predators. And I don't use that term.
33:46
There's not a hint of hyperbole. In
33:49
this case, we're actually talking about minors
33:53
with hardened, violent criminals.
33:58
We caught one. How
34:02
many more are there? How
34:04
could you possibly catch them? Let me ask you
34:06
this. Who would
34:08
have a vested interest in
34:10
possibly catching these incidents? And
34:14
how can you be assured that that person
34:16
has enough of a conscience to
34:19
risk going upstream against
34:23
the grain with everybody else who wants
34:25
to ensure that it never sees the
34:27
light of day? Where do you go? They're
34:31
your tax dollars. They're
34:34
your daughters, sons, community
34:38
members. Who
34:41
steps up? Who
34:43
do you go to? That can happen anywhere. And
34:46
it still is happening
34:49
everywhere. Thank
34:58
you.
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