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Eddie Murphy is back as Axel
0:04
Foley in Beverly Hills Cop, Axel
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F. He's rejoined by familiar
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faces like Judge Reinhold to John Ashton
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as Rosewood and Taggart, along with new
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characters and new hijinks. I didn't realize
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that you couldn't really find Ellen on
0:18
me. Watch Beverly Hills Cop, Axel F,
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only on Netflix, July 3rd. Rated
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R. Hello,
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Boston. It
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is great to be back. We
0:51
are live from the Wilbur. I'm
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recording this immediately after our live Pots of
0:59
America show, which we did
1:01
the night after our debate breakdown episode, which
1:03
we did immediately after watching the debate. So
1:07
if I sound tired and wired and on my last
1:09
gangly leg, I just
1:11
want you all to remember, I don't
1:13
value the opinion of people from Boston. I
1:21
welcome your hatred. I
1:23
welcome your hatred. Tonight
1:27
on the show, I give author Gretchen
1:29
Felker Martin two terrifying choices, horror scene
1:31
or Marjorie Taylor Greene. Icon,
1:34
Kathleen Turner romances
1:39
her IMDB page and gets a little
1:41
frisky. Then Jade Jordan gives it
1:43
to me gay, and by it, I mean the news,
1:45
you degenerates. And
1:48
I have evidence that wasn't presented in the Karen
1:50
Reed trial. So
1:55
we're doing live high notes tonight. So just everybody go
1:57
back to two hours BD. That's before
1:59
debate. Uh, and
2:01
try to think of some positivity. There's just one
2:03
rule. Your high note, this is just for us,
2:06
your high note cannot be about this show, okay?
2:09
Because when the high notes are, I'm having so much
2:11
fun, it makes the people at home mad. Fuck
2:14
them. Fuck
2:16
them. No, no. And,
2:20
look, here's the thing. Uh... You
2:24
don't get very far in this business by saying, fuck
2:26
the audience. But
2:29
first, we have no
2:31
choice. Let's get into it.
2:36
Because... Because if
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we can't get out of it, we gotta get into it. What
2:42
a week. The
2:48
first presidential debate was last night, and if you saw
2:50
it, you know that it was a catastrophe.
2:54
And if you didn't think it was a catastrophe, please
2:57
make your way to the stage. I will pay you $7,000 to trade brains with
2:59
me. It
3:03
was like that riddle where there are two guards
3:05
in front of two doors, and one of the
3:07
guards tells only lies, and the other guard is
3:09
some sort of disoriented dust golem. If
3:17
you hadn't watched it, we're gonna have a
3:20
little intermission here to allow you to leave the room. You
3:22
have a pure soul and mind, and I will not be the one to corrupt
3:24
it. You're
3:26
free. The minutes ahead of the
3:29
Thursday debate, President Biden poked fun at the
3:31
rumors that he takes stimulants, tweeting a link
3:33
to Dark Brandon's secret sauce, a can reading,
3:35
Get real, Jack. It's just water.
3:39
I, too, liked jokes before the debate. I,
3:43
too, remember what it was like to laugh. Once
3:50
the debate began, it was clear that President
3:52
Biden's stimulant and ice cream levels were in
3:54
the red zone. He
3:56
sounded hoarse, his delivery was slow and halting,
3:58
uneven, he mumbles, and... things went downhill
4:00
from there, which is how my wife describes
4:03
sex with me. Before
4:07
the debate, you would've laughed at that. Pretend
4:11
I just showed you a clip you don't need to see. Look,
4:16
sometimes a horse breaks slow out of the gate
4:18
but manages to pull out a wind with a huge burst
4:20
of speed in the home stretch. Just
4:23
a fun fact about horses, doesn't, doesn't
4:27
actually apply in this case. But
4:30
what beautiful animals, so hard to draw.
4:35
While answering a question about Medicare,
4:37
Biden froze a bit before landing
4:39
on this. We'd
4:41
be able to wipe out his debt. We'd
4:43
be able to help make sure that all those
4:46
things we need to do, childcare, elder care,
4:48
making sure that we continue to strengthen our
4:51
healthcare system, making sure that we're
4:53
able to make every single solitary
4:55
person eligible
4:57
for what I've been able to do with the
4:59
COVID, excuse
5:01
me, with dealing with
5:04
everything we have to do with, look,
5:09
if we finally
5:11
beat Medicare. It's
5:15
harder the second time because the first time you don't
5:17
know it's coming. I
5:23
know that was tough. I know that was tough, but I have an
5:25
idea. It's gonna be okay. Can
5:27
we try it again with some music?
5:30
Making sure that we're able to make
5:33
every single solitary person eligible
5:36
for what I've been able to do with
5:38
the COVID, excuse
5:40
me, with dealing with
5:43
everything we have to do with, look,
5:48
if we finally
5:50
beat Medicare. It
5:52
was worth a shot. Of
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course, this isn't just about how Biden sounded.
6:03
This is about his inability to push back
6:05
on Trump in an incoherent way, or an
6:07
incoherent way. After Trump lied about healthcare or
6:10
child tax credits or the border of veterans,
6:12
if Biden would have drifted down in aerial
6:14
silks and performed pink so what suspended over
6:16
the crowd, I wouldn't have understood
6:19
why, but I would have at least felt like I
6:21
was in good hands. And
6:23
there were so many opportunities. Trump gave him
6:26
so many opportunities. Joe Biden was like a
6:28
man standing in front of a whack-a-mole game,
6:30
his hands empty, occasionally
6:32
whispering, there's one. There's one. Trump
6:38
spent the entire debate lying through his teeth.
6:40
And by the way, not in a way
6:42
that endeared him to undecided voters, he's eminently
6:44
beatable. And Biden was unable to deliver basic
6:46
rebuttals. In Biden's defense though, he wasn't listening.
6:48
He was just waiting for his turn to
6:50
talk, like an actor who just moved to
6:53
LA at a party. That
6:56
would have killed in LA. Trump
7:01
also falsely claimed that democratic states allow
7:03
for post-birth abortions and then when asked
7:05
about, yeah, fuck him is right. And
7:09
then when asked about whether he would block access
7:11
to the abortion pill, Mifapristone incorrectly said that the
7:14
Supreme Court had approved the pill, said Trump, I
7:16
agree with their decision to have done that and
7:18
I will not block it. As a reminder, Joe
7:20
Biden said Roe was on the ballot four years
7:22
ago and Trump denied it then too, because he's
7:25
a fucking liar. But Joe Biden didn't say
7:27
that because he was pretty focused on having
7:29
accidentally swallowed a Swarovski crystal hedgehog before the
7:31
debate. What's
7:36
the story there? In
7:39
his own abortion answer, Biden slammed Trump for
7:41
overturning Roe v. Wade, but then inexplicably pivoted
7:43
to talking about a woman who was murdered
7:45
by an immigrant. The
7:47
fact is that the vast majority comes from
7:49
this source, it was a spider.
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All right, you know what? I'll take
7:53
the note, let's skip it. We
8:00
don't have to watch it again. But
8:04
we saw it. Politically,
8:06
pivoting from abortion to immigration as Joe Biden
8:08
did here is like sitting down to a
8:10
beautiful meal at your favorite restaurant and eating
8:12
the fucking wine glass. In
8:20
response to Biden's defense of his actions, Trump
8:23
said this. I really don't
8:25
know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't
8:27
think he knows what he said either. When
8:30
Trump is calling someone else incoherent and
8:32
it's landing, that is a state of
8:34
emergency. We are all in the Titanic
8:36
submersible and the whole pressure alarm is
8:38
going off. Thursday
8:41
did at least bring us this all-time debate
8:43
line. I didn't have sex
8:45
with a porn star. He
8:49
continued, she was a porn actress. We
8:53
haven't had stars since the 80s. Also,
8:57
there was this line where Trump was asked whether he'd take
8:59
any action to combat climate change. I
9:03
want absolutely immaculate clean water
9:06
and I want absolutely clean air and
9:08
we had it. We had H2O. That's
9:13
the person who won the debate. Which
9:18
is somehow scarier than climate change itself. Overall,
9:23
Biden came to this debate needing to dispel concerns about
9:25
his age while exposing Trump's extremism and narcissism. He
9:28
failed on both counts unless undecided voters
9:31
are into this. Honestly,
9:34
I wouldn't put it past those freaks. Biden
9:39
was asked a question about his age and even in a question
9:41
about his age, he somehow wound up rambling about computer chips in
9:43
South Korea. He sounds like me in therapy
9:45
getting asked about my own worst flaws. All
9:49
of a sudden, I'm yappin' about how Michigan needs
9:51
newer bridges. After
9:57
Trump once again bragged about acing his
9:59
cognitive test, he and Biden got into
10:01
this extended back and forth about golf.
10:05
Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
10:08
I got my handicap, which when I
10:10
was vice president, down to a six.
10:14
And by the way, I told you before, I'm happy
10:16
to play golf if you carry your own bag. Think
10:19
you can do it? That's the
10:22
biggest lie that is a six handicap of all. I
10:25
was eight handicap. Eight? You
10:28
know how many you have? I've seen you swing.
10:30
I know you swing. Let's not act
10:32
like children. President Trump, we're going to turn. Let's
10:34
not act like children. Finally,
10:41
we're almost done. Finally,
10:47
an answer to the age-old question, what
10:49
if Stadler and Waldorf weren't funny? And
10:57
I say at this point, boys have
10:59
at it. They should be golfing. They're
11:01
78 and 81 years old. These are
11:03
the last good golfing years. While
11:05
Democrats walked away shaken, it's somewhat reassuring that
11:08
most of us have the exact same reaction
11:10
to Biden's performance. Oh my fucking God. It's
11:13
like when you're at a wedding and you know
11:15
the couple is just definitely going to get divorced.
11:18
But you don't know if the other people at the wedding know. And
11:21
then a couple drinks in, somebody finally cuts attention and turns
11:23
to you and makes these people hate each other. This is
11:25
fucking crazy. Like
11:28
former Senator Claire McCaskill, who told Rachel Maddow
11:31
this. Joe Biden had one
11:33
thing he had to do tonight, and
11:35
he didn't do it. He had
11:37
one thing he had to accomplish, and
11:40
that was reassure America that
11:42
he was up to the job at his age.
11:45
And he failed at that tonight. I
11:47
think the one thing Biden had to do was to remember
11:49
to take his amphetamines. Pretty
11:53
well dispelled that fucking rumor, huh? That
11:56
was, we don't, he was raw dogging it there.
12:02
Over on CNN, John
12:04
King said this. This was
12:06
a game-changing debate in the sense that right now as
12:08
we speak, there is
12:10
a deep, a wide, and a very
12:12
aggressive panic in the Democratic Party. Deep,
12:18
wide, and
12:20
aggressive. Happy
12:22
last weekend of pride, everyone. We're
12:31
Democrats. Our kink is
12:33
panic. And our safe word, maybe
12:35
Whitmer? Former
12:39
Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that the party doesn't
12:41
need a new nominee, but admitted that was,
12:43
from a performance standpoint, not great. Thanks,
12:47
babe. All
12:49
we need is a boost in morale, continued
12:51
Pelosi, ushering in the cast of Sufs. It's
12:57
too soon for Sufs. It would have worked with Hamilton. On
13:00
Friday, the Dems slowly pried their fingers off of their eyes and
13:03
started to put the pieces back together. When asked if
13:05
he thought Biden was Democrats' best messenger at this high-stakes moment,
13:08
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told reporters that
13:10
he would reserve comment about anything
13:13
relative to where we are at this moment, other
13:15
than to say, I stand behind the ticket. I
13:19
don't even know what that means. Some
13:21
pundits tried to blame CNN for Biden's performance, which
13:24
I personally view as absurd. This is the exact
13:26
debate format Biden asked for. This is like me
13:28
trying to blame the Cheesecake Factory waitress for my
13:30
stomachache because she brought me everything I ordered. Kayla
13:33
is just doing her job. Or
13:35
she was until I got her fired. My
13:38
tum-tum hurts. South
13:42
Carolina Congressman Jim Clyburn called the debate Strike
13:44
One against Biden, but urged the party to
13:46
stay the course. The mixed metaphor
13:49
is perfect. This feels exactly like trying to
13:51
play baseball on a sailboat. John
13:56
Federman tweeted, I refuse to join the Democratic vultures
13:58
on Biden. shoulder after the debate, no one knows
14:00
more than me that a rough debate is not
14:02
the sum total of a person and their record.
14:05
Annoying, my friend, and not a great analogy.
14:09
What do vultures hover over again? We're
14:13
not vultures. There's nothing in it for us. There's no
14:15
beat on those bones. At
14:19
a rally in Wisconsin, Bernie Sanders admonished Trump for
14:21
lying during the debate, but admitted of Biden, I
14:24
think the president was not terribly articulate. To say
14:26
the least, and he was not focused, he did
14:28
not defend a very strong record. And that is
14:30
a really excellent point. It's not a bad record.
14:32
It's actually a really impressive record. It's the record
14:35
player. That's the issue. It's antique.
14:37
We got it at a garage sale. A little
14:39
rain got inside of it, and they don't make
14:41
parts for it anymore. And sure,
14:43
it brings us back to a simpler, safer time.
14:47
And then you don't know if a new one will be as good. On
14:52
Friday, Biden appeared at a campaign stop in North
14:54
Carolina, and he said this. I
14:57
know I'm not a young man. Stake
14:59
the obvious. I don't walk
15:01
as easy as I used to. I don't
15:04
speak as smoothly as I used to. I
15:06
don't debate as well as I used to.
15:09
But I know what I do know. I
15:12
know how to tell the truth. I know
15:16
right from wrong. And
15:21
I know how to do this job. I
15:24
know how to get things done. I
15:27
know like the millions of Americans know, when
15:30
you get knocked down, you get back up. And
15:35
that's a great moment for him. I
15:41
too believe in the wise words of Shabbat
15:43
Wamba. We
15:47
must all listen to you, Elzen. Brandy
15:49
quotes says, Ghandi once said, we
15:52
must be the Shabbat Wamba we want to see in the world.
15:56
Biden is great in that moment. He's just a completely
15:59
different guy when the I think that was our problem. He
16:01
needs the energy of a crowd. He's an iPhone 6 running on
16:03
1%. He needs that
16:05
external battery. So
16:08
what happens now? First
16:10
of all, you go to bed at 1.30 a.m. Caffeine's still racing
16:12
through your veins as you scroll until your eyes close over
16:15
endless headlines using synonyms for fiasco. Then you have a nightmare
16:17
about having to play the guitar during the podcast, even though
16:19
you don't know how, because
16:23
even your dreams have lost all subtlety. And then you
16:25
wake up at 6 a.m., still wired, and get a
16:27
new coffee, and then you go to the gym in
16:29
the hopes that you can work off some of this
16:31
energy, but then you're at the gym and you get
16:33
Joe Biden-level acid reflux. And
16:35
so you go to CVS to get Tums, which kind of help, and
16:37
then you think, hey, the dynamic heading into this debate
16:40
was one that felt enervating, boring,
16:42
and losing. Is that the
16:44
dynamic now? No, it is not! And
16:48
is that terrifying? Yes. But
16:51
here's the bright side. Why are we
16:53
afraid? We're afraid because of the
16:55
threat that Trump poses. We're afraid because
16:58
we understand the stakes. But we're not afraid of
17:00
each other. When Republicans worry about
17:02
Donald Trump, they're afraid to express it because
17:04
they're afraid of him. They're afraid for their
17:06
safety. And as we saw on January
17:09
6th, as we see with Republican politicians being
17:11
afraid to go against Trump because they fear for
17:13
their family's safety, it is not an idle threat.
17:16
We believe in democracy, and right now,
17:18
we're practicing it. I... CHEERING
17:27
I think one of the reasons this conversation, though
17:29
we've had it many times, came to such a
17:32
stark relief now, is I think on some level
17:34
we all believe Joe Biden when he says, I've
17:36
been underestimated. He was underestimated when
17:38
he was a primary candidate. He was underestimated
17:40
as a general election candidate. He was underestimated
17:42
as a president. Joe Biden
17:44
outperformed my expectations. I
17:47
believe he played his hand on domestic
17:49
policy better than any human being could. I
17:51
truly believe that. I believe Joe Biden did
17:53
as well as any human being could have
17:55
done. CHEERING And
17:59
whether it's... the investment
18:01
in climate, the infrastructure bill, the executive
18:03
actions, the way he managed Congress, the
18:05
way he negotiated with Republicans, the way
18:08
he understood his role, both as someone
18:10
to push for progressive policies while being
18:12
a representation of institutions. I don't think
18:14
that there's a place where you can
18:16
point to age as a factor in
18:18
hurting his ability to govern. I really
18:21
don't. I really don't. Certainly
18:23
on domestic policy. But
18:26
the- Chip sack! And then
18:28
there's of course the chip sack, sir. A
18:32
perfect time to yell about a specific
18:34
piece of legislation clearly fully
18:36
fucking accountants by what
18:38
I was already saying. But
18:42
the most important job that Joe Biden
18:44
has now as president is to stay
18:46
president. And I don't make
18:49
the rules. Being the messenger, being
18:51
the candidate is a different job than being the
18:53
president. Having this debate is not an argument about
18:55
whether or not Joe Biden can be president. It's
18:58
a debate about whether or not he is the
19:00
person that has the right skills for this moment
19:02
to remain president, to defeat Donald Trump when the
19:04
stakes are so high. I
19:06
don't know what Joe Biden is gonna do, but
19:09
we're gonna have this debate. If Joe Biden
19:11
is the nominee at our convention, I know
19:13
every person here is gonna fight like fucking
19:15
hell for him, right? Right? Right?
19:19
Right? Right? Right? But
19:21
until that convention, let's
19:24
have a debate about who the best nominee
19:26
is. And Joe Biden will
19:29
either step aside or try to convince us that
19:31
he's it, and we will not be told the
19:33
most important part of this is. We will not
19:35
be told that this is an idle worry or
19:37
that we didn't see what we saw of the
19:40
debate or that we should shut up because Donald
19:42
Trump is so dangerous. We will be honest because
19:44
Donald Trump is such a threat. Yeah!
19:47
Yeah! Because
19:51
we know that if the American people understand
19:53
the stakes in this election, we will win.
19:55
But if we are debating Joe Biden's age,
19:57
if that stands in our way, I really
19:59
worry we won't. So we will have
20:01
this debate and we will do it with the knowledge
20:03
that while we may not agree on the best path
20:05
and we did during the PODS of
20:07
America live show if you were here we had a debate
20:09
about Whether
20:11
to stick with Joe Biden or have an
20:13
open convention and it was genuinely like we
20:15
could have flipped the side It was Dan
20:17
and Tommy said stick with Joe and Mettie
20:19
and John were arguing for an open convention
20:21
They they both did an incredible job. You're
20:23
listening and it makes a ton of sense
20:25
They could have switched sides and had it
20:27
the other way. There are very decent people
20:30
who will have Different opinions
20:32
on this but it doesn't mean either
20:34
side doesn't understand the stakes or the
20:36
threat posed by Donald Trump So
20:38
I just think that's important. The reality is
20:41
either path is pretty scary But
20:43
there was never a way to get to
20:45
November without being scared out of our fucking
20:47
minds Though
20:50
at the same time before
20:52
we do go this route we should
20:54
ask ourselves Do we
20:56
trust Democrats not to
20:58
accidentally pick someone? even
21:01
older Somebody
21:04
get Jimmy Carter on the phone Carter
21:09
Carter Carter Carter.
21:12
All right We
21:15
have an amazing show for you Kathleen
21:18
Turner is here Jade Jordan is here
21:20
and we'll be right back with Gretchen
21:22
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26:26
welcome to the stage, she writes, the chills,
26:28
the pays, the bills. The otherworldly author, Gretchen
26:30
Felger Martin. Hi,
26:33
welcome. Thanks
26:38
for being here. Thanks for having me. Right
26:40
here. All right. Your
26:44
book is called Cuckoo. Yes.
26:47
Now, you write body horror.
26:50
Yes. Why does having a body
26:52
have to be so horrible? Man,
26:56
I don't know, but I'd like a word with whoever made
26:58
that call. Yeah.
27:01
I remember the first time I watched a David Cronenberg movie
27:03
and I thought, why does this feel good? I
27:08
guess I have to do this now. Yeah,
27:10
you're a real freak. Why
27:14
do we have a fascination, you think, with body
27:16
horror? So
27:19
my personal theory here is
27:22
that everyone to a greater or lesser extent
27:24
is in a protracted state of
27:26
involuntary intimacy with their own body.
27:30
You can't get away from that fucking thing. Right.
27:35
And so the idea of it being
27:37
distorted or injured or mutilated
27:39
or transformed artistically becomes
27:41
cathartic, because we would like to see
27:44
it suffer, especially if we
27:46
don't have to feel it. Interesting.
27:49
Wow. You've really given these that clearly
27:51
just rock these people's brains. On
27:55
some level, that sense of you
27:58
are trapped with your own body and you better learn to live
28:00
with it. Is
28:02
that part of why
28:04
some conservatives find trans
28:08
people to be such a
28:10
threat? I mean, I think that in
28:13
modern America, political conservatism
28:15
is essentially repressed
28:18
psychosexual sadism. Whoo!
28:20
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
28:23
Whoo! You don't feel
28:25
good, so nobody else can. And
28:29
the only real pleasure
28:32
you can get out of life is by making sure that
28:34
nobody else is happy. Or
28:36
at least to prove
28:39
that your experience of the world
28:41
is the right and best experience
28:43
of the world. Right. It must supersede all others. This
28:45
must be the way life is. And
28:48
if you can't accept that, we've got to
28:50
stop you. Right. And I do think that
28:52
trans people represent an existential threat to
28:54
that way of thinking. Because we're
28:57
dealt a hand that I think no
28:59
one would debate is difficult. And
29:01
so many of us manage to create a life that
29:04
we want to live out of that. Whoo!
29:07
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
29:09
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
29:11
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
29:14
Whoo! Here's a video of our head writer,
29:16
Halle, wanted to get your reaction to. For
29:18
those at home, we are now watching a
29:21
clip of what is apparently a tiny
29:24
flat human face made of real living
29:26
lab grown cells draped over a resin
29:28
base. And it is smiling. Let's roll
29:30
the clip. That's
29:36
a face made of living human cells.
29:39
May be useful in the cosmetics industry
29:41
and to help train plastic surgeons. Question,
29:44
do we need science? This
29:50
is great to me. I want to touch that thing. I
29:52
want to lick it. That's
29:55
a horror writer for you. About horror.
29:59
Life. It inspires
30:01
art, art inspires life. Life begins in
30:03
a hospital parking lot while a nurse
30:05
calls a lawyer to see if you're
30:07
allowed to receive an emergency abortion. Which
30:11
is why it's time for a game we're calling Little
30:14
GOP of Horrors, a title that
30:16
only works visually. Oh. Also
30:25
because it's really, you want to say,
30:27
little gop of horrors. Also
30:30
known as Drag Me to Congress, aka
30:32
Dawn of the Red, alternatively 28 Bills
30:35
Later, Gretchen. I'm gonna
30:37
read you a long line. You're gonna tell
30:39
us if it describes a cinematic horror from
30:41
the twisted minds of filmmakers or a real
30:43
life horror from the twisted minds of politicians
30:45
who order their stakes well done and
30:48
think the Reverend is the hero in Footloose. If
30:52
it's real, say life, it's fictional, say art.
30:55
Are you ready? I'm ready. A
30:58
terrifying cult attempts to keep a group of
31:00
unsuspecting people from leaving a hospital. That
31:03
sounds like something Mitch McConnell would do. It
31:05
does, but it is art. That's the plot of the 2016 film
31:07
The Void. Next
31:10
up, a terrifying cult attempts to keep a group
31:12
of unsuspecting people from entering a hospital. That one's
31:14
Mitch McConnell. That one's life, yeah. This week, the
31:17
Supreme Court refused to overturn an Idaho law
31:19
that would force Idaho women to wait in hospital
31:21
parking lots at home at Starbucks until they become
31:23
septic or otherwise start dying so that their abortions
31:25
can be classified as life saving. That's
31:28
allowing doctors to perform them. A lower court ruling stands
31:30
for now so the law is not in effect, but
31:32
as Melissa Murray said on Ponce of
31:34
America this week, it sure seems like
31:36
the Supreme Court's conservatives dodged the question
31:38
because they know that abortion motivates voters.
31:44
After viewing a disturbing and strange video, a
31:46
woman feels compelled to investigate the film's origins
31:48
until she realizes the only way to escape
31:50
her doom is to force someone else to
31:52
watch it too. The ring. That
31:54
is the art. That is the plot of the ring. After
31:58
viewing a disturbing and strange video, a woman
32:00
feels compelled to investigate the film's oranges until she realizes
32:02
the only way to escape her doom is to force
32:04
someone else to watch it too. Oh,
32:07
that's me listening to those clips you were playing from
32:09
the debate. That's
32:12
right. That's also
32:15
what happens on TikTok when someone eavesdrops on
32:17
a stranger on a plane and decides that
32:19
they're having an affair and decides to put
32:21
them on blast to the whole world with
32:23
zero information about any of the people involved,
32:26
including the wife they are supposedly looking out
32:28
for because we are a twisted judgmental society
32:30
seeing other people as characters in a drama
32:32
rather than flesh and blood human beings. Put
32:34
your goddamn phone down, people. Do
32:37
you know, have you been following this? People just
32:39
saying like, ah, I saw people cheating at the
32:41
fucking airport. I'm gonna film it and put it
32:43
on the internet. You absolute fucking panopticon freaks. Put
32:45
your goddamn phones down. You
32:49
Puritan monsters. Yeah,
32:52
I haven't heard of this. I'm gay. That's
32:59
a very funny, I'm sorry. I haven't heard of
33:01
this. I'm gay. Hired
33:06
to take care of a storied manner,
33:08
isolation and professional failure destroys a man's
33:10
connection to reality until he embraces violence
33:12
even against the people closest to him.
33:14
The Shining. That's correct. Hired
33:17
to take care of a storied manner, isolation
33:19
and professional failure destroy a man's connection
33:21
to reality until he embraces violence even
33:23
against the people closest to him. The
33:25
presidency of Donald Trump. That's correct. Tried
33:30
to incite an insurrection.
33:32
They went after his vice
33:35
president. Cast out from
33:37
society into the wilderness, a religious family
33:39
is tormented by misfortune and fear. It
33:41
may have been unleashed by supernatural forces.
33:43
Perhaps the devil- Robert Eggers, the witch. That
33:45
is the witch. Cast
33:50
out from society and forced to live as
33:52
a pariah, a once beloved figure descends into
33:54
madness and confusion, coming to believe he's been
33:56
trapped by a malign in
33:58
a quote nightmare. world. Is
34:02
that Trump again? No that's
34:04
Rudy Giuliani. He's
34:07
kind of like a Xerox of Trump. Yes
34:10
he literally was overheard saying I'm
34:12
trapped in a nightmare world. Also
34:16
this is there was a story that
34:18
in his bankruptcy filing he's apparently buying
34:20
like eight dollar polyester ties on Amazon
34:23
and and and my only issue with
34:25
that is I'm 41 years
34:28
old. I barely wear
34:30
suits anymore. I have accumulated
34:32
so many fucking ties. This
34:35
is a man who is in his
34:37
70s. What on God's earth is
34:39
happening in his clothing that he is
34:42
going that he is out of fucking
34:44
ties. My God the
34:46
the body are. You don't want
34:48
the answer. We don't want the
34:50
answer. A woman
34:53
loves her peaceful neighborhood until she realizes all
34:55
of her neighbors are in a cult hell-bent
34:58
on brainwashing young women. Stepford
35:00
Wives. We'll accept
35:03
it. I think we can accept it
35:06
but it's 2019's movie
35:08
One BR. One brr.
35:11
Oh yeah that's a great movie. One
35:14
brr. One bedroom. One bedroom. A
35:17
woman loves her peaceful neighborhood until she realizes
35:19
all of her neighbors are not in a
35:21
cult hell-bent on brainwashing young women. Martha?
35:25
I don't know what this is. It's
35:27
that's right.
35:29
It's Martha Ann
35:32
and Samuel Halido.
35:35
Hating their hating their
35:38
neighbors for having
35:40
the audacity to care
35:42
about pride. Virgonia.
35:47
Virgonia is the Italian word for shame. Oh I
35:49
know. And just
35:51
like the English word for shame it has no effect on me.
36:03
Any final thoughts on the connection between
36:05
Republican and fictional horror?
36:08
There are two sets of things that you don't
36:11
want to be close to. It's
36:13
that elemental. Jaws, the shark, you don't want
36:15
to be next to Jaws. That's the
36:17
whole point of the movie. That's every election
36:20
now. That's very election.
36:22
And like Jaws, the
36:24
tension builds even if you can't see the
36:26
shark, you know? I don't know how that
36:28
applies in this case. I
36:32
got nothing. And
36:35
the book is Cuckoo? Cuckoo. And there
36:37
are queer people trying to escape some kind of a cult?
36:39
Yes. And it's pretty gross? It's
36:42
pretty gross. All right. Nice.
36:47
Thank you, Gretchen, everybody. Go check out Cuckoo now wherever
36:49
you get your books. Up
36:52
next, a question only Kathleen Turner can
36:54
answer. Was I in this? Thank
36:57
you so much. That was so great. One
37:00
more time. That was fun. There's
37:09
a legend coming. Please welcome
37:11
to the stage. And we cannot believe
37:14
it. A living legend. The one, the
37:16
only, Kathleen fucking Turner. Hi,
37:24
thanks for being here. Come on. Oh,
37:31
come on. It
37:33
feels so good to
37:35
be on stage. That
37:37
man, that voice. It's
37:40
incredible. It's incredible. I played
37:42
this house 20 years
37:44
ago in Who
37:47
is Afraid of Virginia Woolf? First
37:52
of all, why are you here? Why did you
37:54
do this show? My
37:58
daughter turned around here. We
38:01
were, we
38:03
took a vacation together in England
38:06
and we were driving a lot
38:08
to different parts and she came
38:10
completely prepared
38:13
with hours and hours and
38:15
hours of you. Wow, for
38:18
my co-host that would be torture. No
38:22
actually, after my
38:24
initial resistance, I
38:28
learned to love it. Okay, that's great,
38:30
thank you. So,
38:33
it is
38:35
the 30th anniversary of Serial
38:38
Mom. Oh, it is.
38:42
And it's funny because I
38:44
saw that movie when it came out and
38:47
like so much upon
38:50
reflection, Serial Mom, yet another work that knew I
38:52
was gay before I did. What
38:55
is it like being part of
38:57
that John Waters legacy of film?
39:00
Well, I love John. I mean, honestly,
39:02
I love the man. He
39:05
is one of the best-hearted
39:09
people you'll ever meet. And
39:12
originally he sent me this script and
39:14
I read it through to the point where
39:16
she pulls the liver out
39:20
and I went, oh no, I don't, no, no,
39:22
no, no, no, through the script
39:24
and down. And then I
39:26
went back to it and I
39:29
read up into the leg of
39:31
lamb and then I
39:33
went, oh, come on. And
39:36
I went back to it. So,
39:39
I finally called John and I said,
39:41
look, you're going to have to explain
39:43
to me how you're going to shoot this because
39:45
this can either be a ridiculous
39:48
gore fest or it can
39:50
be one of the funniest damn things I'll ever
39:52
do. And
39:54
he rushed to New York, knocked
39:57
on my door and convinced
39:59
me. And it
40:01
is so funny. It is so funny.
40:04
It makes me laugh. We
40:09
have a classic Love It or Leave It game that was tailor-made
40:11
for you. That's right, ladies
40:13
and gentlemen, it is time for Was I In This?
40:16
Hell hell. Here's
40:20
how it works. Chris is out there
40:22
in the house. Audience,
40:25
you will not embarrass yourselves in front of Kathleen
40:27
Turner. All right. Raise
40:30
your hand if you want to play, and
40:32
Chris will find you in the audience.
40:37
Was I in this? Hello, I'm Ella. Can we bring the
40:39
lights up? Great. Hi.
40:41
Hi. Kathleen
40:44
once played a writer who must travel to Cartagena to
40:46
save her kidnapped sister. During her
40:48
journey, she falls head over heels for an
40:50
exotic bird smuggler. True or false? True. Remancing
40:53
the stone. It is also
40:56
the near...we're approaching the 40th
40:59
anniversary. It is the 40th
41:01
anniversary of romancing. First
41:06
of all, I love that. I mean,
41:08
I just love that movie. And it
41:10
is a movie that...first of all, we're desperate
41:13
for rom-coms, but also that
41:15
movie spawned so many copycats to this
41:17
day. It's like every year somebody's trying
41:19
to recreate a romancing the stone, and
41:21
they can't do it. No. No,
41:25
the whole point...I mean, Hollywood
41:28
is run by bankers. You
41:31
know, it's no longer, and hasn't been for a very
41:33
long time, a creative engine,
41:35
as it were. And
41:38
so they think the formula for
41:40
a successful film is
41:42
to repeat something that has already
41:44
been done. Now, see
41:47
me to understand that
41:49
success comes because it
41:51
is new, because
41:53
it did break ground. Yeah.
42:02
Next question. Kathleen appeared across from Nicolas Cage
42:05
as an Italian-American bookkeeper who falls for a
42:07
baker with a wooden hand. False. That was
42:09
Cher. That was Cher. That was right. That
42:12
is the plot of Moonstruck because Kathleen was opposite Nicolas
42:14
Cage in Peggy Sue Got
42:17
Married. Yeah. Is
42:21
time travel really the antidote to infidelity, as
42:23
the film suggests? I don't know. I
42:27
have to confess. I was a little disappointed with the ending.
42:30
Hmm. With Francis. I
42:32
don't think... Coppola. Um...
42:35
I'm not sure that he really... Francis...
42:38
Francis Ford Coppola to you. Yeah. Yeah.
42:41
I'm not sure that he really thought that through all the way. Hmm.
42:47
It... I also... Because I
42:49
saw that movie when I was a kid, and it's a movie
42:51
about someone going back in time. I think it
42:53
really hit on the head of their 25th high
42:56
school reunion. To your faints, yeah. To
42:58
your faints. And I... I
43:00
did... I realized that I'm the age of Peggy Sue.
43:03
And I remember... And I was like, oh, wow. It's
43:06
time for me to go back in time and make some changes. Yeah.
43:10
Yeah, I really can't believe that she... She
43:12
would have done the same thing again. Yeah. No.
43:16
Hmm. It's interesting. Let's all go
43:18
back and watch Peggy Sue Got Married. Hmm. And
43:21
think about how it would be for now. Kathleen
43:24
played Dottie Hinkle in John Waters' black comedy
43:26
slash her serial mom. True. False.
43:30
No. No. That
43:32
was Mink. That was Mink Stoll. That was
43:34
Mink Stoll. She was the
43:36
murderous mom, Betty Suntfin. Have
43:41
you seen the John Waters retrospective at the Academy Museum? Will you
43:43
go with me? Oh, oh. Do you mean
43:45
at the museum? Yeah. He sent
43:47
me... He walked through and sent
43:49
me a video of the whole thing. It's
43:52
got, like, serial mom dresses and
43:54
some of the costumes and everything
43:56
that... And... What
44:00
was it? I guess the leg
44:02
of lamb? Is there like a lamb in
44:04
there? I'll
44:07
buy tickets if you Venmo me. All right.
44:10
Kathleen portrayed a woman taken out of
44:12
this world in a chandelier-related
44:15
incident in the War of the
44:17
Roses. True. Oh, God, yes. Yes.
44:23
I, for so long, I feel like,
44:25
again, because I guess HBO
44:27
knew I was gay and I didn't, I
44:30
clearly was like drawn to you as a
44:32
child and these
44:34
like, these incredible performance you gave as this
44:36
like, as this like strong,
44:41
larger-than-life woman.
44:46
You're a gay icon. How'd
44:49
you do that? Why do you think
44:51
that is? I
44:55
think perhaps in
44:57
some ways and I... Oh,
44:59
Heavens to Betsy, I do a
45:01
lot of activism. I serve
45:03
on the board of People for the
45:06
American Way for many years, City
45:08
Meals on Wheels in New York City, Planned
45:11
Parenthood, all of these. I
45:14
work for and with. And
45:18
I am... Women
45:21
have always really
45:24
been strong supporters of
45:26
gay and gays right. And
45:29
frankly, I think you
45:31
guys owe us. You
45:33
mean... Hey,
45:37
we could use some help now.
45:42
Yes. And I think...
45:46
I think this is the right moment
45:48
for Kathleen Turner to be the
45:50
chief arbitrator between the great
45:53
truce between the gays
45:55
and the lesbians. I
45:57
think it's time they came back to the negotiating
45:59
table. understood
46:01
that we're in this together. Truly.
46:05
You know, that'd be a beautiful thing. Now,
46:08
you told the Guardian that you started to fall in love with
46:10
Michael Douglas while shooting Romancing the Stone. Then
46:12
you go on to Jewel of the Nile and
46:14
the War of the Roses. Nice.
46:18
Yeah. Now,
46:20
we... And then Cominsky method, we
46:22
just... Oh, Cominsky method. Yeah. We
46:27
have such a great time together. And
46:31
yes, indeed, at first I was. I
46:35
was, again... But
46:39
then his separated wife
46:42
showed up in Mexico. What's
46:45
she gonna do? That's
46:49
a night... That's life for
46:51
you. No. I like that there
46:54
was this period of time in the late 80s and the
46:56
90s where Michael Douglas, movie
46:58
after movie, women would fucking kill
47:00
for him. There was
47:02
fatal attraction. There
47:05
was disclosure. There
47:08
was a bunch of different movies where women
47:10
would blow up their entire lives. Yeah, that's
47:12
not me. But
47:16
not you. Not you. In
47:18
your movies with Michael Douglas, he's chasing you. He's
47:21
chasing you. I like that. I like that.
47:23
Well, you know, if you
47:25
kind of look at the whole
47:27
body of work, my
47:31
women usually take
47:34
the lead. They
47:37
do. They do. Kathleen
47:43
played a cartoon shoe in Who Framed Roger
47:45
Rabbit? True. Oh,
47:47
shit. Roger! Jessica
47:50
Rabbit. Jessica... Joe,
47:53
there is a shoe. There is a shoe. It goes
47:55
in the dip. Yeah, there is. And
47:57
I'll try him, convict him. An
48:01
ex-acute. Hey,
48:11
I don't think I can get my voice that high.
48:17
They let kids watch that. I know.
48:21
I know, it's rather shocking. I
48:26
think my favorite line from that was,
48:28
I love you more than any
48:31
woman has ever loved a rabbit before. I
48:37
love that. I love that. What an amazing... Were
48:41
you Jessica Rabbit or was Jessica Rabbit you?
48:43
You're now so entwined. The character
48:45
couldn't exist without you, right? Well,
48:50
Bob Zemeckis is directed. And
48:52
he directed Romancing the Stone. So
48:55
we've known each other for many years. And
48:58
I think that when he
49:00
wanted just a voice, he thought
49:02
of me. What
49:05
he didn't realize, and which was absolutely gorgeous
49:07
for me, was I was
49:09
extremely pregnant then. And
49:13
so I would waddle into the studio. And
49:15
I have these friends like opera singers who
49:19
claim that they gain a note on either
49:21
end with the resonance. Anyway,
49:27
the last day I was supposed to work, my water
49:30
broke. And I'm in the
49:32
hospital saying, call this studio. Tell
49:37
them I'm not coming today. I
49:40
like that. I like that. The
49:42
sexiest voice ever recorded had to call
49:45
in for maternity leave. That's
49:50
cool. That's great. And
49:54
finally, Kathleen
49:57
played what was described as
49:59
Chandler's... dad on Friends.
50:03
That is such a accurate. All of
50:05
these movies, it's so interesting situating some
50:07
of these movies because these strong, whether
50:10
it's the strong women are existing
50:13
in this misogynist space, and then
50:15
you play Chandler's dad at
50:17
a time in which there wasn't even really
50:19
the word trans, and yet it's
50:22
a kind of loving portrait of this person
50:24
in the end. Have you thought about that?
50:27
I was doing a one-woman
50:29
show based on Tallulah Bankhead, of
50:32
course, up in
50:34
San Francisco. And two of
50:36
the writers from Friends came
50:38
up and came backstage
50:40
and talked to me about
50:43
playing this man
50:45
in drag. And you're
50:48
right. I mean, people have asked me
50:50
since then, would you do it
50:52
now? I mean, shouldn't it be done by a man
50:54
in drag? Well, of course it should. But
50:56
we didn't have that then. I
50:59
mean, honestly, it wasn't really
51:01
an option. And
51:04
so I wanted to, OK, no, wait, I have
51:07
to do. OK,
51:10
I had a
51:12
dresser on the show, right? Gay
51:15
guy who also did drag.
51:18
And so I said, you're going to take me to
51:20
some clubs. I need to
51:22
understand what this is and what I have to
51:24
do. So he took me to
51:26
these drag clubs. And they were
51:29
brilliant. And they were, oh,
51:31
so such
51:35
angry laughter.
51:37
You know, I mean, they
51:40
were hilarious. But there always seemed to
51:42
be this edge of
51:44
real anger underneath.
51:48
And so first day of rehearsal at
51:50
the studio, I go in and
51:52
I read through the script. And
51:54
suddenly, the producers and
51:56
everybody else run off to
51:58
a corner. huddle and
52:00
then someone comes over bravely
52:03
and says, it's
52:05
great, you know, it's just great.
52:07
I mean, you're, ah, great, great.
52:10
But, but, but
52:12
we, you know, we wonder, could you
52:14
just, could you just be a
52:17
little nicer? Yep,
52:24
okay. Well, it's, it's
52:27
interesting because it's, it's clearly this, it's, you
52:29
know, maybe it wouldn't be, obviously exist in
52:31
the same way today, but it's
52:33
this character is described as a drag
52:35
queen, but clearly living as
52:37
a woman all the time. He's fully,
52:40
yeah, he's not just a drag queen.
52:42
His life is as a woman. Right,
52:45
that's exactly right, yeah. Yeah,
52:47
it's in, what are you? Well, I'll tell you what's funny
52:49
though, because Matthew
52:53
Perry used to call me dad, you
52:56
know, when he would see me, dad. That's
53:01
sweet. Yeah, poor baby. Thank
53:03
you for being here. I enjoyed
53:05
it. Was this fun? Do
53:07
you have fun? Do you have fun? Yeah,
53:11
I have fun. Everybody
53:14
give it up for the one, the only,
53:16
Kathleen Turner. That
53:20
was so much fun. Thank you
53:22
so much. When
53:26
we come back, one more time for Kathleen Turner.
53:29
When we come
53:31
back, Jay Jordan
53:33
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55:02
do still think there's this effort
55:12
to hope that like will the DNC sort
55:15
this out? Will somebody sort this
55:17
out? Will there be some? I know you
55:19
know. Is
55:22
somewhere some some group of of
55:25
grand pubas figuring this out? Somewhere
55:28
the machinations are machinating. Somewhere
55:31
the rooms are filling with smoke.
55:34
I guarantee you, I guarantee you,
55:36
Hakeem Jeffery's
55:39
texts, if you
55:41
saw those texts it would
55:43
shake you to the fucking core how
55:46
much they look like your texts. God
55:52
help us all if we saw the
55:54
texts of the powerful. Schumer
55:59
doesn't text. Next. Shumer
56:03
calls. Shumer's got
56:05
a flip phone. That's why Nancy Pelosi was so
56:07
fucking pissed when Shumer got her number. Shumer
56:11
called Nancy Pelosi saying, "'Hey baby
56:13
reindeer.'" Please
56:22
welcome the funniest comedian
56:24
in Boston until he goes back
56:26
to New York. That's right. It's
56:28
Jay Jordan. Thanks
56:34
for being here. Wow,
56:38
what an entrance. They're going to crucify
56:40
me. No. I'm happy to
56:42
be here. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for
56:44
being here. No, no, the thing about it. And based on
56:47
what I just saw, we're worried about
56:49
who's going to be the nominee. I
56:52
have decided to run. And yeah,
56:56
I don't look it, but I am of age.
56:59
So yeah, they're going to find out a bunch
57:01
of gay shit, but I hope that y'all are
57:03
OK with it. But yeah. So
57:07
yeah, I've decided to run. I mean, I just think,
57:09
I mean, there are people who are going to want to
57:12
check the birth certificate because I'm sitting across from a 23-year-old. Please
57:15
tell more industry people that. All
57:19
right. We're going to close out Pride
57:21
Month with a love of the leave of tradition. That's right. It's
57:24
time for Gay News, Boston's
57:26
version. It's
57:29
wonderful. Oh my goodness. That
57:32
sucks. Hey,
57:35
do you think Boston is a queer space? I've
57:39
been in a queer space in
57:41
Boston, and
57:44
I'm going to text him after the show. Someone
57:52
said, so yes. So
57:55
now it's time for Gay News. Here's how it works. We
57:58
talk about some gay news, and in between, we talk about we say, butt
58:01
up, butt up, butt up, butt up, gay news. It's
58:03
meant to evoke the kind of news
58:06
on the march, march of time, kind
58:08
of news reels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From another era
58:10
when people got their news from
58:12
like a real place. You mean a TV
58:15
with a fat bat. That's what we're talking about.
58:17
Yeah, okay. That's right. All
58:19
right, let's kick it off. Butt up, butt up, butt up,
58:21
butt up, gay news. You
58:23
kick us off. All right, okay. President Biden
58:26
pardoned over 2,000 US veterans convicted
58:28
between 1951 and 2013 under
58:32
military law against gay sex.
58:34
Some of them were still
58:36
in jail. Of
58:43
course, the gay division of the armed
58:45
forces, as we call it, the Navy.
58:53
Joe Biden pardons the Navy. Harvard's
58:57
Arnold Arboretum announced their corpse flowers, which
58:59
smell like rotten meat, are currently in
59:01
bloom and can be seen streaming on
59:04
their YouTube channel. Smells fantastic, said Steve
59:06
Bannon. Big
59:09
deal, anyone can look beautiful and
59:11
smell terrible. It's called summer, all
59:13
right? The
59:15
corpse flower, which blooms every seven to
59:18
12 years, they're
59:20
named Pepe Le Pew and Dame
59:22
Judy Stinch. That's
59:26
shameful, it's disrespectful. Smelly Clarkson
59:28
was right there, okay? We
59:31
also would have accepted Stink 182. Bridgerton
59:36
star Nicola Conflin announced her
59:38
new charity single, her new
59:40
charity single, Shoes More Shoes,
59:42
to benefit Not a Phase
59:45
and the Trevor Project. She said
59:47
the song is exclusively for gay
59:49
men. No, it isn't,
59:51
said Tommy. Ha
59:56
ha ha, we're
59:58
just kidding, exclusively. for
1:00:00
gay men and by that she means straight
1:00:02
women visiting for bachelorette parties too. Okay
1:00:08
Bailey Ann Kennedy has been named Miss
1:00:10
Marilyn USA becoming the first trans woman
1:00:12
and the first Asian American woman to
1:00:15
win the crown. And
1:00:22
that is also a series of words you
1:00:24
can repeat to your uncle at Thanksgiving if
1:00:26
you'd like for him to just blow up.
1:00:31
Miss Marilyn celebrated in the customary way
1:00:34
by doing a couple of bumps of
1:00:36
Old Bay off of a
1:00:38
key and and getting
1:00:40
loud with her boyfriend in a bar.
1:00:44
Classic Marilyn that's it. That's
1:00:46
also a little bit of Boston. Yeah
1:00:48
that is that is that is a little bit
1:00:51
of Boston. That's a little bit. I'm wearing an
1:00:53
Irish linen shirt for y'all. Yeah Irish linen. So
1:00:55
if you listen very close to shirts say we
1:00:57
had a bad when we came here too. Be
1:01:04
nice. All
1:01:06
right the number of LGBTQ elected officials in
1:01:08
the US has jumped nearly 200% since 2017.
1:01:10
Pretty good. That's a lot. According
1:01:17
to a report by the LGBTQ Plus
1:01:19
Victory Institute the report also found that
1:01:22
for the first time there is at
1:01:24
least one out LGBTQ elected officials serving
1:01:26
in every state and DC.
1:01:33
And DC. I'm like you
1:01:35
mean exclusively game staffers in
1:01:38
DC? Because Jesus Christ. Okay.
1:01:40
Massachusetts-based beverage company Snapchill recalled its canned
1:01:43
coffee drinks this week over fears the
1:01:45
drink had been infected with botulism. Oh
1:01:48
no the coffee drink might fuck up my stomach.
1:01:51
That's the point of coffee. Grow up. Yeah
1:01:55
also just inject it into my frown
1:01:58
lines. Up
1:02:00
and up and up gain news. But
1:02:02
up and up and up. I forgot. Oh,
1:02:05
we? Yeah. Wow. That's
1:02:09
how they know. That's how they know.
1:02:11
And the sitting. And
1:02:17
the sitting. He's been in every part of that
1:02:19
chair except for the correct one. It's
1:02:23
really true. It's really true.
1:02:25
Okay. The Tokyo Marathon will
1:02:27
add a non-binary category for runners
1:02:29
in 2025, making it the sixth
1:02:31
and the final world major marathon
1:02:33
to offer the option. Finally.
1:02:37
Finally. Yes.
1:02:39
Finally, Tokyo residents will be able
1:02:41
to complain about the coworker who
1:02:43
won't shut the fuck up about
1:02:45
the marathon they ran. But
1:02:51
up. But up. But
1:02:53
up. It's
1:02:56
a step forward, but I'm still calling for a category where
1:02:58
you're allowed to ride a Segway. All
1:03:02
right. The MBTA added
1:03:04
googly eyes to five of its
1:03:06
trains. To
1:03:11
the delight of passengers. So be extra
1:03:13
careful out there. It is a very
1:03:15
undignified time to get run over by
1:03:18
a train. Who's
1:03:21
the looker, said President Biden. Can
1:03:25
I say that is the most wholesome
1:03:28
train joke I have made this month.
1:03:35
But up. But up. But
1:03:37
up. Gay news. Gay news. 23
1:03:40
sets of twins have just graduated from a single Massachusetts middle
1:03:42
school with twins making up about 10% of
1:03:45
the eighth grade class. Gross.
1:03:48
And they're so stinking cute. But
1:03:50
up there we have a picture of them I think. Right? Look
1:03:53
at them on the playground. Experts think the
1:03:56
phenomenon is responsible for the reasons 600% up
1:03:58
to the point where the in
1:04:00
parent traps. But
1:04:03
up, but up, kind of gay news, I guess. No,
1:04:06
Lindsay Lohann, gay news, gay news. She's
1:04:08
coming back. Boston News, she's coming back.
1:04:10
The Boston Celtics announced star player... Chris
1:04:13
Stops Porzingis? Chris Stops Porzingis.
1:04:16
Chris Stops
1:04:18
Porzingis... will
1:04:20
be out for five to six months following life surgery.
1:04:23
And while they're in there,
1:04:25
dude, just have them make you a couple inches
1:04:27
taller. He's already
1:04:29
seven foot two, so with just a little
1:04:31
more height, he can just drop the ball
1:04:33
in the net and nobody can stop him.
1:04:35
These are $50 million ideas, people. Chris
1:04:39
Stops Porzingis, of course, named after
1:04:41
the sound his father Sheldon from the
1:04:43
Big Bang Theory made at the moment
1:04:45
of his conception. He's
1:04:48
actually a very talented Eastern European player,
1:04:50
and I do want y'all to know
1:04:52
some congrats on the championship. But... But
1:05:00
Porzingis coming back and injuring
1:05:02
himself in two games. Most
1:05:05
Boston shit ever. I
1:05:08
was like, y'all ain't gonna win, but something terrible has
1:05:10
to happen. Hey, listen,
1:05:12
this is gay news and... Oh,
1:05:14
yes. Also, he's a
1:05:17
tall, hot Eastern European. Does that make
1:05:19
it...? I just think... I
1:05:23
just think if we're in Boston talking about
1:05:25
the Celtics, I
1:05:28
don't feel safe. How's
1:05:33
your pride been? It has been fun. I
1:05:36
did a gig for a company that I
1:05:38
think is trying to destroy my job, so
1:05:40
that was fun. You do a corporate gig.
1:05:42
I walked in, I was like, y'all aren't
1:05:44
evil, right? And they were like... They
1:05:47
can tell some jokes. So
1:05:50
afterwards, they were like, do you want to do
1:05:52
a roast battle against an AI version of
1:05:54
yourself? And I was like, oh...
1:05:57
Y'all sent the check, right? I
1:06:00
had to deal with that, but it's been fun. I went to Fire
1:06:02
Island. That's cool. Yeah. Did you do
1:06:04
the rose battle against an AI version of yourself? No, I would
1:06:06
never. I don't want to do that. I don't, I
1:06:09
don't want to put, there's so
1:06:11
much of my shit out there already on
1:06:13
the internet. I do not need them to
1:06:15
like come up with AIJ. Like
1:06:17
regular J is horrible enough. Thank you. Hey,
1:06:19
hey. That's the guy who I'm going to
1:06:21
text. I don't want to talk. I don't
1:06:23
want to hear that kind of negative talk
1:06:25
about yourself. Thank you, John. That's very sweet.
1:06:27
How's your pride been? Well,
1:06:30
I missed some of it. Wait,
1:06:33
wait. Are you telling me you were
1:06:36
gone somewhere? I was out of
1:06:38
town for part of it, but then it's
1:06:40
been fun coming back. It's
1:06:42
been great being on the road. I
1:06:45
do love getting to be in Boston
1:06:47
during pride. Because
1:06:51
it reminds me how lucky I am to live in LA. I
1:06:55
am going to fucking roast you all
1:06:58
goddamn night. Maybe I would have liked
1:07:00
this city if one of your many
1:07:02
colleges had welcomed me. But that's not
1:07:06
how it turned out. And you know what?
1:07:09
And you know what? You know what? You can
1:07:11
eat shit. All right.
1:07:14
I went to undergrad at what we like
1:07:16
to call, I went to undergrad at Ole
1:07:18
Miss, which is the Harvard of Mississippi. It's
1:07:21
also the MIT of Mississippi. It's
1:07:24
also, I mean, it's just kind of. What?
1:07:30
Let me do jokes, baby. No,
1:07:35
you're sweet, thank you. So
1:07:38
this is my second time in Boston ever. The first
1:07:40
time I came, I did laugh. We heard about the
1:07:42
first time you came. Yeah, oh, thank you, yes. No,
1:07:45
I went to, I did laugh
1:07:48
Boston, which is a
1:07:50
fun comedy club. I walked around Boston like a
1:07:52
dumb smug New Yorker. I was like, oh, this
1:07:54
is nice. People should know about this. It's
1:07:57
beautiful. Y'all have an. Aesop?
1:08:00
Okay, yeah. Got expensive hand
1:08:02
cream. Wow,
1:08:05
congrats on getting the Aesop,
1:08:07
Boston. You did it.
1:08:11
It's fun to razz Boston. Just a
1:08:13
little, they can take it. You guys
1:08:15
are a gritty town. Yeah,
1:08:18
yeah. I, I... Oh,
1:08:22
it's gonna start. No. The thing
1:08:24
about it is they're also an uncivilized people.
1:08:27
It's actually amazing. The thing about
1:08:29
Boston that's amazing is all these
1:08:31
buildings and all these schools and
1:08:34
all of these events and concerts,
1:08:36
this art, this creativity, this symphony,
1:08:38
it's created by Bostonians,
1:08:41
which is like incredible. It's like, it's
1:08:43
amazing. What is the theory about if
1:08:45
you give enough typewriters to chimps and
1:08:47
enough time? No,
1:08:50
that's sort of what it's like. It's like
1:08:52
seeing, when you come to Boston and you
1:08:54
see art, it's like seeing a monkey with
1:08:56
a suit on. It's like
1:08:58
they're at a little computer. It's like, why are they gonna fucking type?
1:09:00
And they all work in healthcare. They're
1:09:04
just animals. I love it. I love it.
1:09:07
I also, I'm very happy. Y'all have welcomed
1:09:09
me with open arms and
1:09:11
other orifices. Also,
1:09:14
I do like to consider myself
1:09:16
the crispest addicts of stand-up comedy. So
1:09:18
hopefully I don't die here tonight.
1:09:21
And that's a great place to leave it. Everybody,
1:09:25
that's butt up, up and up,
1:09:27
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1:09:29
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1:09:42
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1:09:45
give us a donation. These are groups that are
1:09:47
doing actual work every single day. Jay Jordan, thank
1:09:49
you so much for being here. Thank you, John
1:09:51
Lovett, everyone. That
1:09:53
was great. That was fun. Where
1:09:55
can people find you? Oh, it's
1:09:58
already gone, everywhere. We
1:10:01
come back. We're gonna end on a high note. ["I'm Gonna
1:10:03
Be My High Note"] ["I'm Gonna
1:10:05
Be My High Note"] And
1:10:09
we're back! ["I'm Gonna Be My High Note"]
1:10:14
And I'm just kidding about Boston. I love, you know, it's a fine
1:10:16
place. It's a fine place. Yeah,
1:10:19
I hear you guys got a tie place. And
1:10:25
what gives you hope? What's
1:10:28
your name? What's your high note? My name
1:10:30
is Megan. I'm from Albany, New York. And
1:10:32
I ran
1:10:35
for a very small office in my
1:10:37
town. And I won on
1:10:39
Tuesday at the Democratic primary. And
1:10:45
is the door normal size and the office is small?
1:10:48
Or is it the kind of thing we have to get down to
1:10:50
get into it? And tonight is my 40th birthday. Happy
1:10:53
birthday! Welcome
1:10:56
to the club. Yes. Welcome
1:10:58
to the club. So in 2008, Obama
1:11:01
inspired me to join politics. And here
1:11:03
I am. Great. That's great. Thanks
1:11:05
for sharing that. Hi, what's your name? What's your
1:11:07
high note? Hi, my name is Julia.
1:11:09
My high note is that I work
1:11:11
for state governments. And this week we
1:11:13
met a legislative deadline and are making
1:11:15
healthcare more affordable for Californians. And there
1:11:17
was an update in North Carolina. So
1:11:19
we're making healthcare more affordable from North
1:11:21
Carolina to California, which gives me a
1:11:23
lot of hope when there isn't a
1:11:25
lot inspiring happening at
1:11:28
the federal level. That's great.
1:11:32
Hi, what's your name? What's your high note? Hi, my name
1:11:34
is Sarah. My high note
1:11:36
is after being
1:11:38
a board administrative assistant for a long
1:11:41
time and being unemployed for a while,
1:11:43
I finally found, I guess, my dream
1:11:45
job, which is just working front desk
1:11:48
at a rock climbing gym with
1:11:50
just ridiculous, fun people who are
1:11:52
all in their 20s. And
1:11:55
it's the best job I've ever had in my life. I'm
1:11:57
very happy for you. I
1:12:00
gotta tell you, you know what's really interesting? I'll just
1:12:02
say that there's something that's interesting that I noticed from
1:12:04
high notes, from like a trend in high notes. And
1:12:06
one of them is people feeling a little
1:12:08
bit strange of saying that like they were in the
1:12:10
kind of, I don't know, like professional
1:12:13
class grind. And they're
1:12:16
just like, I work at
1:12:18
a bar now and I love it. And so there's a
1:12:20
little part of it, it's like, and that's okay, right? It's
1:12:22
like, yeah, it's great. It's like, it's
1:12:24
a funny thing that I know like, it's
1:12:29
okay that your job doesn't have emails.
1:12:31
That's actually pretty fucking sick. All
1:12:34
of our jobs, it's like, oh, you don't have a
1:12:36
job that's about emails? Okay,
1:12:38
I guess. Jobs are
1:12:40
supposed to be about emails. And
1:12:43
so you got your Slack emails and your text
1:12:45
emails and your computer emails. And in the morning
1:12:48
you start trying to get ahead of your emails,
1:12:50
but you can't. You can't
1:12:52
and that's what it means to live. And
1:12:56
if it's a good day, there's no emails, the end.
1:12:59
Hi, I'm Jen. I work for
1:13:01
one of the residential recovery homes in Boston,
1:13:03
an area of Boston that's particularly
1:13:05
affected by the opioid crisis. And
1:13:08
what gives me hope is seeing the support that
1:13:10
our clients give each other every day. I
1:13:12
don't think I've ever seen another person give somebody
1:13:14
else as much support as when our folks
1:13:16
who are still in active recovery give
1:13:19
support to the folks who have lapsed or relapse.
1:13:21
Unfortunately, it's part of the journey towards recovery and
1:13:24
seeing them persevere every day, despite the broken
1:13:26
system that they're trying to access support in.
1:13:28
So that's what gives me hope. So
1:13:30
thanks, happy bread. That's right. Hi,
1:13:34
what's your name? What's your high note? Hi,
1:13:37
my name is Kristin and I'm from the
1:13:39
Portland, Maine area. And, whoa,
1:13:42
Maine in the house. I
1:13:45
was always told I sounded like Kathleen Turner,
1:13:47
just fine. So
1:13:50
not the high note part, but so
1:13:52
on Monday, I had a house fire and
1:13:55
it was awful and everybody's OK, but
1:13:57
it's been kind of crazy. But the.
1:14:00
The high note is just, I
1:14:02
knew that I had surrounded myself with really
1:14:04
amazing people, but the absolute just love that
1:14:06
I have felt from my
1:14:09
family, my friends, my feminist chorus,
1:14:11
my worker, my coworkers, it's just
1:14:13
like I've never felt so surrounded
1:14:15
by just love and care, and
1:14:17
it's been really amazing. So
1:14:20
shout out to all those people. Hi,
1:14:22
what's your name, what's your high note? Hi, I am
1:14:25
Jessica, I'm surprisingly a
1:14:27
2016 Republican, not
1:14:30
Republican anymore. Love
1:14:33
to have you. I
1:14:35
guess my high note is really just being
1:14:37
surrounded by so many great people who really
1:14:40
believe in democratic causes, and despite what happened
1:14:42
on Thursday night, we're still gonna move forward,
1:14:44
we're still gonna keep going, whether it's Kamala
1:14:46
Joe, someone else, we really have this in
1:14:49
the bag, everyone, and we gotta keep fighting
1:14:51
for what we believe in because we can't
1:14:53
let what happened before happen again, so I
1:14:55
really believe in that, thank you. Thanks
1:14:57
for sharing that. What's
1:15:02
your name, what's your high note? Hi, my name
1:15:04
is Jessica, I'm from a predominantly conservative
1:15:06
town in central New York, and
1:15:09
we just elected our first, the
1:15:12
first drag queen to a US school board.
1:15:16
Pretty good, pretty good. What's
1:15:21
your name, what's your high note? Hi, my name is Josh,
1:15:23
I live in Jamaica Plain here in Boston, I'm half
1:15:27
of a two-dad family. I
1:15:29
was laid off in the end of the year,
1:15:31
Merry Christmas last year, but I
1:15:34
just signed for a new job, and I
1:15:36
have two special-need kids, and we just
1:15:38
went on a family vacation that felt like we didn't
1:15:40
wanna kill each other when we got back, so
1:15:43
things are headed in a better direction. That's
1:15:45
pretty cool. And so, feeling really good, and
1:15:47
going into the summer, we got a little
1:15:49
work to do, but feeling really hopeful. All
1:15:51
right. I'm excited to be here. Hi.
1:15:55
Hi, what's your name? Hi, my name is Jana,
1:15:57
I hail from a town about 20 minutes south of
1:15:59
New York. the Worcester, Massachusetts. It's
1:16:01
a red dot in an
1:16:04
otherwise blue state and
1:16:06
a couple months ago I threw my
1:16:08
name in the hat to run for
1:16:10
selectmen of our town board and
1:16:13
I won a couple weeks ago. And I
1:16:17
campaigned in this here t-shirt for
1:16:20
the for the people at home. The
1:16:22
OG merch. It's the straight shooter. I love it.
1:16:24
Respected on both sides because I was
1:16:26
also the highest vote getter in my
1:16:28
very red town even though I am
1:16:30
a flaming liberal. That's
1:16:32
amazing. That's awesome. Thank you so
1:16:35
much. Congratulations. My
1:16:37
name is Grace and my high note
1:16:39
is I just moved to Boston in
1:16:41
April. Yeah, thank you.
1:16:43
But I have been living here alone
1:16:46
while my husband was finishing his residency
1:16:48
at NYU and he just moved here
1:16:50
yesterday with me. So this is our
1:16:52
first night out together. What
1:16:55
kind of doctor? Oncology. Hematology.
1:16:58
Oh my god. Well,
1:17:01
I'm glad he's here. He's at the end of his
1:17:04
residency. Yeah, he just finished yesterday. They
1:17:06
kept him until 8 p.m. So, wow.
1:17:08
Yeah. Well, that's great. Congrats. What's your
1:17:11
name? What's your high note? Yeah, I'm
1:17:13
Joe. I'm from the Kansas side of
1:17:15
Kansas City. I just moved to Boston
1:17:18
after two layoffs and
1:17:22
working to try to get people to buy
1:17:24
a Medicare advantage for a year. I decided,
1:17:27
bucket, I'm going to apply to grad
1:17:29
school. Finally did. Got
1:17:32
accepted into Brandeis University. And
1:17:36
living in Waltham and my partner
1:17:39
got a job at Boston Children's Hospital. So,
1:17:41
yay for him. And more
1:17:43
or less, we decided to move up early and
1:17:47
enjoyed it. And you guys are all
1:17:49
surprisingly nice compared to what John has
1:17:51
to say. Hey,
1:17:54
way to make a good impression. I think that's
1:17:56
a great thing about Boston. You can keep it
1:17:58
together for a while. That's
1:18:01
also something you're well known for. Just keep it
1:18:03
together for a little bit. Put
1:18:05
on a show for the visitors, then we can go back
1:18:07
to doing what we do best. Making
1:18:11
a bar too loud. What's
1:18:14
your name, what's your high note? My name is Jessie Ray.
1:18:16
I turned 35 yesterday, so 35 and a half years ago,
1:18:21
a four year old named me after Jessica
1:18:23
Rabbit because she was a pretty lady. It
1:18:26
was cool to see Kathleen here tonight. I'm
1:18:28
sorry. I
1:18:31
got a little stuck on the fucking... Yeah, no,
1:18:33
my dad was four. No, my little brother, my
1:18:36
little brother like threw an absolute
1:18:38
temper tantrum that he was gonna
1:18:40
have a baby pumpkin sister. So
1:18:42
I'm sorry, just to back up. Yeah, no,
1:18:44
yeah, no, absolutely. There was a lot of math in
1:18:46
there that I think actually was a red herring. So
1:18:50
you're named after Jessica Rabbit. Your
1:18:52
name is Jessica. Not
1:18:54
Rabbit. Jessica Ray. Jessica Ray, your name is Jessica
1:18:56
Rabbit. And that is because your four year old
1:18:58
brother, who I assume is gay now. So
1:19:03
that's your name. That's
1:19:05
your name. And then what's your high note? I
1:19:07
actually, I commented this morning on
1:19:10
the Discord. Yesterday was
1:19:12
my birthday. The Discord is so lovely. Everybody wished
1:19:14
me a happy birthday. I've actually
1:19:16
been having a hard time because I
1:19:18
work for a large breed dog rescue
1:19:21
that was previously in Hummel,
1:19:23
California, just south of LA. And
1:19:26
I was stationed with
1:19:28
my military husband. We just moved
1:19:30
the rescue up to Montana, but
1:19:32
the move, we had a lot of
1:19:35
help. It was a whole caravan, all
1:19:37
12 dogs. Only
1:19:39
the rescue, the shelter was ready. So
1:19:42
we don't have power, water. In
1:19:44
this time of stress, I was feeling like I
1:19:46
kept getting put on the back burner. Everyone else
1:19:48
I work with and my loving husband all got
1:19:51
to go home and do the events that they
1:19:53
got to do. And I was feeling really homesick.
1:19:55
Have you considered setting your house on fire? I
1:19:59
don't have a- house yet
1:20:03
so yes I'm so sorry by the way
1:20:06
I don't know these fire jokes are too
1:20:08
soon the woman who lost her
1:20:11
house. There's nothing too soon in this space.
1:20:15
We now have electricity and water so
1:20:17
I will be going home to a real
1:20:20
place. Thank you for sharing that
1:20:22
Jessica Ray named after Jessica
1:20:24
Rabbit who took there's 12 there's
1:20:27
so it's 35 years minus four
1:20:29
12 dogs if you have 12
1:20:31
dogs without electricity leaving Los Angeles
1:20:33
no 12 dogs leaving
1:20:35
Los Angeles at a certain
1:20:38
speed and there's no electricity in Montana
1:20:40
but you're going to Boston and that's
1:20:42
during the debate when
1:20:44
you get to Boston will the
1:20:47
dogs have electricity but how far
1:20:49
did the dogs get thank you
1:20:51
for sharing your high note what's
1:20:56
your name what's your high note my
1:20:58
name is Nick I was raised
1:21:00
on a farm in rural North Carolina
1:21:04
as much as you could expect to
1:21:06
a very conservative family and I would like
1:21:08
to say my high note is that I have convinced
1:21:10
all of them not to vote for
1:21:12
Trump and to vote for Biden. Way
1:21:19
to go man way
1:21:22
to go how'd you do
1:21:24
it most
1:21:26
of them are very religious that's how I
1:21:28
grew up in the church but
1:21:31
as soon as I brought up women's rights
1:21:33
the right to abortion the right for a
1:21:35
woman to control her own body my mom
1:21:38
helped me with this I praised
1:21:41
my mother she helped me with
1:21:43
this to convert my entire family that a
1:21:45
woman's right is more important than a convicted
1:21:47
felon. Thank
1:21:49
you for sharing that I
1:21:52
think that's a great place to leave it because
1:21:55
we're not in charge of what Joe Biden does
1:21:57
we're not in charge of what happens Over
1:22:01
the course of the next few weeks, we can make
1:22:03
our voices heard, we can have this debate, we can
1:22:05
be a part of it. But at a time when
1:22:07
people are incredibly cynical, at a time when people don't
1:22:09
trust the news, at a time when some of the
1:22:11
most important people to reach are people who don't pay
1:22:13
attention and don't trust politicians, actually person-to-person conversation is going
1:22:15
to be more important, which means each of us have
1:22:17
more power than ever before to help
1:22:19
change people's minds. And I think that that's
1:22:22
a really cool lesson. Thanks
1:22:24
to everybody who shared a high note tonight. If
1:22:26
you want to send us a message about something
1:22:28
that gave you hope, send a voice memo to
1:22:30
lowlyhighnotesatgmail.com, or you can leave one on the
1:22:32
Discord. That is our show. Thank
1:22:35
you so much to Gretchen Felker Martin,
1:22:38
Kathleen Turner, and Jay Jurden. There
1:22:40
are 51 days until the Democratic National
1:22:42
Convention and 128 days until the 2024
1:22:44
elections. Thank
1:22:47
you to the Wilbur. Thank you, Boston. Have
1:22:51
a great night and have a great weekend. Love
1:23:00
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1:23:02
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1:23:08
is written and produced by me, John Lovett
1:23:10
and Lee Eisenberg. Kendra James is our executive
1:23:12
producer, Chris Lord is our producer, and Kennedy
1:23:14
Hill is our associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is
1:23:16
our head writer, Sarah Lazarus and Jocelyn Kaufman,
1:23:18
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1:23:20
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1:23:23
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1:23:25
support, Stephen Colon is our audio engineer, and
1:23:27
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1:23:29
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1:23:34
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