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Hi, it's Martha Stewart. You know, I spend

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a lot of time thinking about dirt. At

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3am? At all hours of the day,

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really. What people don't know is that

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not all dirt is the same. You

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need dirt with the right kind of

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is so dense, so

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full of nutrient-rich, high-quality

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ingredients. Miracle-Gro

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is simply the best. Way

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is welcome to the stage.

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This guy. Thank

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you for coming Seven people! Thank

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you for watching it. As to Vanessa Williams

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song, having the good sense to remember that

1:00

you're a d then they you are allowed

1:02

to release one good dance. org after fifty

1:04

five is very important. And

1:07

yet another reason though she is. All.

1:09

Said our best Miss America

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hello. And

1:14

welcome to Liberal either. I'm going on

1:16

your death so it's for the evening

1:18

when I use are probably wondering like

1:20

weather is a Guess whos Israel know

1:23

that Love it is Back from Survivor

1:25

we know where he was. his balls

1:27

are intact are so we're told he's

1:30

doing other podcasts on the network and

1:32

like why is he like here Like.

1:35

My. Assumption is now that is used to network

1:37

television, You no longer willing to do live theater

1:39

in the same way that I am. But

1:43

we will keep this all going. So.

1:46

Until It Happens gives them a okay. well

1:48

the C plus it is. Love it! I'm.

1:52

I'm going to close up as Gusto Zero with

1:54

the great shows. You know we've got James

1:56

A tome in. Carolina.

2:00

Margaret a freak flag flies with your view

2:02

of the law schools in his whole since

2:04

his enemies us to teach the supreme court

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right son, illegal and unquote bread does all

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goes to be I am C B from

2:10

finally we wrap it all up with an

2:12

as well as we'll. The

2:14

first you guys. Let's. Get into it. What?

2:17

A week. This

2:21

week a jury found Hunter Biden guilty of

2:23

three felony charges stemming from him lying about

2:25

his drug use on a federal done pursuing

2:27

applications when a team. I don't think anyone's

2:30

above the law but I would argue that

2:32

once more detail a green as hold up

2:34

a picture of your hard on c since

2:36

you should be immune from prosecution message or

2:38

that I set up for and I will

2:40

say dance hundred bucks is only crime. It's

2:42

been fun. President

2:46

Biden said in a saving i am a puzzle but

2:48

I'm also a dad Alex of the outcome of this

2:50

case. I will continue. Respect the judicial process

2:52

is hundred considers an appeal. Added.

2:54

Biden as you seem important to Turkey

2:56

around Thanksgiving that says looks like a

2:58

man wearing hats or to suit money

3:00

on got to emphasise three son he

3:02

wilma abuses power and issue Hunter a

3:04

pardon. Finally aware that I can tell

3:06

Biden and Trump apart. The

3:10

seven day trial feature embarrassing testimony from

3:12

hunters form a romantic partners about his

3:14

carotid accent and reckless behavior. To be

3:16

clear, the testimony was embarrassing to everyone

3:19

but hunters who kept saying yeah I

3:21

did. Last. Person. Or

3:24

persons had to leave my life and such a way

3:26

that none of my exes or ever called to testify

3:28

about me under oath. But we all know that it's

3:30

only a matter of son. And

3:33

my favorite detail from the trial: One

3:35

of hunters former girlfriend testified that they

3:38

met when she was working at a

3:40

strip club and a hunter put on

3:42

a Fleet Foxes song last seen another

3:44

woman gave him a laugh. Then I

3:46

am sorry it is June. I cannot

3:49

believe I was forced to read a

3:51

sentence substrates. new i'm long sought

3:53

presidential candidate marianne williamson has

3:55

once again suspended her campaign

3:57

for the democratic nomination so

4:00

If anyone here knows how to play taps on

4:02

a Tibetan singing bowl that could really come in

4:04

handy right now. Man,

4:07

I say this to you from the bottom of my heart.

4:10

I did not know you were still running. Rudy

4:14

Giuliani had his mugshot taken in Arizona on

4:16

Tuesday in connection with his charges in the

4:18

2020 fake elector scheme. I

4:22

think that there has been a mix-up. This

4:24

is clearly a photo of Giuliani beckoning children

4:27

from inside a storm train. This

4:30

is scary. This is the last thing that

4:32

a bottle of schnapps sees before it dies.

4:36

Emerging from the courthouse afterwards, Giuliani told reporters

4:38

that he was very, very proud of

4:40

his actions. He added, and before

4:43

you ask, I am talking about Borat's daughter.

4:47

When asked by a reporter whether he had

4:50

any regrets about his role in trying to

4:52

overturn the election, Giuliani replied, oh my goodness,

4:54

no. And that coincidentally is the same thing

4:56

that his sex worker told him after he

4:58

whispered his secret request. The

5:02

chef who went viral for holding up a plate

5:04

of calamari during the video roll call of States

5:06

in 2020's Democratic National Convention will not

5:09

be returning this year and told the

5:11

AP I am a Trump supporter, to be honest with

5:13

you. This is exactly

5:15

how Democrats lose elections. You

5:18

can't just count on squid chefs to show up for

5:20

you every four years and put you over the edge.

5:23

You need a permanent presence in those

5:25

calamari communities, or this is what happened.

5:30

Southern Baptist, the country's largest Protestant

5:32

denomination with almost 13 million church

5:34

members, voted on Wednesday to oppose

5:36

the use of IVF. Explained

5:39

a Southern Baptist spokesperson in vitro

5:41

is Latin, which we believe to be

5:43

Catholic bullshit. Look,

5:47

the Southern Baptists understand that if this

5:49

country doesn't have any unwanted pregnancies for

5:51

30 years, they're not going

5:53

to have any congregants left. Wanted

5:56

babies are loved enough to become

5:58

Methodists. In

6:01

a letter to the House Republicans on Tuesday,

6:04

the Justice Department said it looked for any

6:06

evidence that there had been contact between the

6:08

Department of Justice leaders and Manhattan District Attorney

6:10

Alvin Bragg, who brought the Hush-Running case against

6:12

Trump. It found none. The

6:16

indignity of even looking. It's

6:18

like when you lose your keys and your friend goes like, well,

6:20

did you check in the fridge? Bitch,

6:22

I do not need to check in the fridge.

6:24

I've never once put my keys in the fridge.

6:26

Do not project your fridge issues onto me. My

6:29

keys are locked in my car where they belong.

6:33

Rho Assistant Attorney General Carlos Uriarte, the

6:35

conspiracy theory that the recent jury verdict

6:37

in New York State Court was somehow

6:40

controlled by the Department is not only

6:42

false, it is irresponsible. Not

6:45

like all those responsible conspiracy theories we're always hearing

6:47

about, those conspiracy theories with elder daughter

6:49

energy. Meanwhile,

6:52

the New Jersey Attorney General's office is

6:54

reviewing whether three Trump-owned golf courses in

6:56

the state are still eligible to have

6:58

liquor licenses in the wake of Trump's

7:00

conviction. No. If a

7:02

60-year-old millionaire who detests his wife can't even

7:04

have a martini before the back nine in

7:06

Bedminster, the entire social fabric of this country

7:09

could crumble before our very eyes. Donald

7:12

Trump headed to Capitol Hill on Thursday for

7:14

the first time since his presidency ended, meeting

7:17

with Republican lawmakers to talk policy and rally

7:19

the troops. It is only

7:21

June and Trump is already planning. This

7:24

coming January 6th is sure to be one for the

7:26

record books, ladies and gentlemen. Trump

7:29

reportedly told House Republicans, Milwaukee, where

7:31

we are having our convention, is

7:34

a horrible city. Apparently

7:37

someone doesn't like beer, pie, and

7:39

German Catholics. But

7:43

other than that, it seems like it went well there. Apparently

7:46

the former president made reference to Hannibal

7:48

Lecter and said, nice guy,

7:50

quote, he even had a friend over for dinner.

7:53

So we've seen Trump out on the campaign trail

7:55

praising Hannibal Lecter. Apparently he did it again this

7:57

morning. Again,

8:00

to remind you, the racist tithes.

8:04

Trump also told Republicans that he was surprised Taylor

8:06

Swift wasn't in his camp, saying it's how he

8:08

signed a law to help songwriters. And

8:10

listen, we've all seen Taylor Swift. On some

8:13

level, we're all surprised. Marjorie

8:17

Taylor Greene offered this glowing review of Trump's

8:19

speech to the GOP conference. He

8:21

was funny. He was joking around

8:24

constantly with everyone. He

8:26

was really sweet to me. He saw me,

8:28

I was sitting back a little ways, he saw me in

8:30

there and he was like, hello, Marjorie.

8:33

He's always so sweet and recognizes

8:35

me. I

8:38

am also very impressed that Trump recognized her

8:40

and didn't just say, wait, are you the

8:42

hand job one or the Florida one? Political

8:48

reported Thursday that Trump made a furious phone

8:50

call to speaker Mike Johnson in the days

8:52

after his conviction, dropping frequent F bombs and

8:55

saying, we have to overturn this. The

8:57

S bombing question, pro-Siajine.

9:02

Meanwhile, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts

9:05

and Justice Samuel Alito were secretly recorded

9:07

at a gala last week by Lauren

9:09

Windsor, an activist posing as a Catholic

9:12

conservative. It's so cool that

9:14

there's only one way to find out what the

9:16

nine of the most powerful people in America actually

9:18

believe, and that's to crash a party in tradwife

9:20

cosplay. In

9:22

the audio, Alito said he agreed that

9:24

compromise between the left and right might

9:26

be impossible. There can

9:29

be a way of working, a way

9:31

of putting things together. It's

9:35

difficult because there are differences

9:38

in life. The man don't think that really came up with compromise.

9:40

And the one thing that cannot be compromised

9:43

is the right of a wife to fly

9:45

whatever flag she pleases. Women,

9:47

right? Can't live with them.

9:49

Can I ask them to respect the nonpartisan

9:51

nature of the office you hold in our

9:53

barely surviving democracy? Their

9:58

exchange continued. I

10:00

think that this relationship really is

10:02

like winning the moral argument. Like

10:04

people in this country who believe in

10:06

God have got to keep fighting for

10:08

that to return our country to a

10:11

place of godliness. I

10:13

agree with you. Now

10:16

what's going on right now is my Jew alarm is going

10:18

off. I don't know what gene it

10:20

is but there's something in me right now that

10:22

wants me to sell my tailor shop, gather together

10:25

my nine children, and leave this village in the

10:27

dead of night. Chief

10:30

Justice John Roberts meanwhile rejected the premise that

10:32

America is a Christian nation. I

10:35

think that we live in a

10:37

Christian nation and that our Supreme

10:39

Court should be guiding us in that path.

10:41

Yeah, I don't know that we live in a Christian nation.

10:44

I know a lot of Jewish and Muslim friends

10:46

who would say maybe not. And

10:48

it's not our job to do that. I've

10:51

never said this before and I hope to never say it

10:54

again. But John Roberts, slay queen. Also

10:58

on tape is Samuel Alito's wife,

11:00

the delectable Martha Ann Alito, applause

11:02

break, who

11:05

of course has been in the news recently

11:07

for flying two separate stop the steal flags

11:09

at the Alito's residence and vacation home respectively.

11:12

While talking to Windsor, Martha Ann declared that

11:14

no husband is going to stop her from

11:16

flying a MAGA flag. The

11:18

other thing is the femnazi believes that he

11:20

should control you. Yeah, that's

11:23

for the health. He never keeps

11:25

on. First of all,

11:27

femnazi set the best outfit. But

11:31

like truly when this whole thing was going

11:33

on, I never even considered the funniest option

11:35

that Samuel Alito was telling the God's honest

11:38

truth that he is simply at the mercy

11:40

of an all powerful flag tyrants trembling before

11:42

her mighty flag. Do

11:45

I love her? Should

11:48

I be Martha Ann Alito for Snatch Game? I don't

11:50

know. If

11:52

anyone here is trying to attack Martha Ann Alito, you

11:54

need to know that Martha Ann is made

11:57

of sturdier stuff than that. I'm

12:00

German. I'm German. I

12:02

have to be German. You come after me. You

12:04

can't even walk. Okay, that is interesting. Zone of

12:06

interesting Ethan. Again,

12:09

my Jew alarm is definitely

12:11

going off now. Where

12:20

is my zaftig wife Rivka? Put

12:22

the goats on the cart. We gotta go Rivka. She

12:26

also shouted out her favorite Bible passage. Psalm

12:28

27 is my song. Mine. Psalm 27. My God,

12:30

am I wrong. A boon shall I be afraid.

12:33

Nobody. You step the fuck back, Martha Ann.

12:35

Psalm 27 belongs to King David

12:37

and whatever downy-faced shepherd he was

12:41

fucking at the moment.

12:49

You do not get to claim the second gayest

12:51

book of the Bible for your own, not on

12:53

this gay Jew's watch. Gayest

12:57

book of the Bible, of course, Song of

12:59

Songs. Yes, it is mostly about women's boobs,

13:01

but in the Hebrew Bible, thinking women's boobs

13:03

are attractive is sort of gay. I'm

13:07

Martha Ann. I want a

13:10

sacred heart of Jesus flag because I have to

13:12

look across the lagoon at the pride flag for

13:15

the next month. And he's like, oh, please don't

13:17

put up a flag. I said I won't

13:19

do it because I'm deferring to you. We

13:23

have a lagoon story and John's not back

13:25

yet. He just spent

13:27

a month researching lagoons. It's

13:30

a journalistic travesty. Are

13:34

you happy now, homos? You

13:36

have ruined this woman's lagoon.

13:41

Even worse, Martha Ann has a design for,

13:43

you guessed it, another flag.

13:46

I made a flag in my head. This

13:49

is how I satisfy myself. I

13:51

made a flag, it's white, it has

13:53

yellow and orange flames around it. And

13:55

in the middle is the word

13:57

begonia. Begonia in Italian means shame.

14:00

they're going to be our G

14:03

Oh G and a very good

14:05

shame shame shame

14:08

you know anyway

14:13

getting so mad at someone

14:15

you picture a fabulous flame-colored

14:18

flag my god

14:20

woman there's nothing gayer than bats

14:23

also this is like here's her saying goodbye to

14:25

a friend ladies

14:37

and gentlemen this is a tragedy

14:39

for America you look

14:41

at that woman and you see the amazing

14:43

shining star of a fag hag or

14:45

should I say flag hag she

14:48

could be brightening any gay bar

14:50

in America and she has chosen

14:53

this path on Thursday the Supreme

14:55

Court ruled unanimously to maintain access

14:57

to Nifaprestone one of the medications

14:59

used in two-thirds of abortions in

15:02

the United States that's

15:04

right baby things are saying at

15:06

the same level of bad instead of suddenly

15:08

getting much much worse that's

15:16

my America the

15:18

decision focused entirely on the plaintiff's lack of

15:20

standing and took no stance on the safety

15:22

or morality of the pill suggesting that the

15:24

court's conservatives might still restrict misappressed zone if

15:27

someone brings them a better excuse to do

15:29

it we won this one on

15:31

a technicality you know what I'll

15:34

take it we're not gonna get

15:36

that big satisfying West Wing moment we're

15:38

gonna get birth control is still legal

15:40

because an evangelical lawyer missed the filing

15:42

deadline and we're gonna love it technicalities

15:45

are the beating heart of

15:47

the rule of law the

15:49

suit was launched by the Alliance for Hippocratic

15:51

Medicine the Alliance for

15:54

Hippocratic Medicine of course is a

15:56

coalition of anti-abortion medical associations and

15:58

doctors so That's why the

16:00

name sounds so stupid. Wrote

16:03

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, federal courts are the

16:05

wrong forum for addressing the plaintiff's concern

16:07

about the FDA's actions. As we

16:09

all know, the correct forum for addressing concerns

16:11

about the FDA's actions is the New York

16:13

Times' Instagram comments. The

16:17

case is the court's first abortion ruling since it

16:19

overturned Roe v. Wade in the summer of 2022.

16:23

The summer of 2022. I

16:25

remember it like it was 1964, which, it seems, is

16:29

what the Supreme Court thinks is the best year. But

16:32

you guys, if you felt a cold breeze

16:34

in your uterus this morning, that's what happened.

16:38

The court has yet to weigh in on the

16:40

other abortion-related cases on its docket, which asks whether

16:42

or not a state can ban medical abortions

16:44

of a woman's health, but not her life are

16:47

at grave risk from the pregnancy. It

16:49

is definitely scary, but allow me

16:51

to throw a Hollywood wrench into conservative

16:54

arguments for this ban. What

16:56

if she were also beautiful? What?

17:02

South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham on Wednesday blocked

17:04

the Democrats' bill that would have required the

17:06

Supreme Court to adopt a binding code of

17:08

conduct. The only code of conduct Lindsey Graham

17:10

adheres to is math boys don't tail. Also

17:15

in Washington, Usher visited the Capitol on

17:17

Wednesday to meet with the House members

17:19

about diabetes awareness. Members offered to

17:22

give Usher a tour, which he requested to be taken

17:24

nice and slow. The

17:26

singer told a reporter, this place is like Rome, it

17:28

looks different every time you see it. That's

17:31

what I like about DC. All the sites keep

17:33

getting older, and I just look that same age.

17:37

A federal judge has struck down Florida's

17:39

ban on providing gender-affirming care to transgender

17:41

minors, ruling that key provisions of the

17:43

law are unconstitutional. Judge Robert

17:45

Henkel wrote in his order that gender

17:47

identity is real and that Florida can't

17:49

prohibit transgender minors receiving specific kinds of

17:51

why they accepted gender-affirming medical care, like

17:54

puberty blockers and hormone treatments. You

17:56

know, an innocent legislator just tries to

17:58

criminalize some children. And then

18:00

who comes along but Judge Buzzkill

18:03

meaning to ruin everyone's time? Going

18:07

to sweat off of my face now. And

18:10

then return to the second hour of jokes. North

18:15

Dakota voters on Tuesday passed a measure that

18:17

would impose age limits on candidates running for

18:19

federal office. Wait, are

18:22

there still people left in North Dakota who are

18:24

under 80 years old? I

18:26

thought they all moved to Arizona to be professional water

18:28

skiers. Um,

18:31

GOP Minnesota Senate candidate Royce White on

18:33

Tuesday tweeted out a map that he

18:35

said showed out of control crime levels

18:37

in Minneapolis. But which is in fact

18:39

a map of the city's drinking fountains.

18:43

To be fair, Republicans do think free water is a crime.

18:46

But also, why do Minnesotans

18:49

need all those drinking fountains?

18:51

They've already got 10,000 lakes. What

18:53

are you people? Amphibians? I

18:58

think all those drinking fountains are just Lutheran Minnesota's

19:01

way of reminding Catholic Wisconsin that they're a bunch

19:03

of drunks. Oh

19:06

yeah, I enjoyed that line of Google. We'll just

19:08

have a nice sip of water. Pope

19:12

Francis on Tuesday once again

19:15

used a homophobic slur in a

19:17

closed door meeting two weeks after apologizing

19:19

for using that same slur. Pope.

19:24

Honey. I've

19:26

had to say this to a couple of comedians before,

19:28

but you only get to say that after you come

19:30

out. The

19:32

Pope once again issued an apology and explained that

19:35

he thought it was okay since he said

19:37

it in a closed door meeting while receiving extreme

19:39

unction, if you know what I mean, from

19:41

an attractive young mom senior. An

19:44

Italian newspaper reported that the Pope had said

19:46

a bishop came to me and told me

19:48

there is so much fursia gene here in

19:50

the Vatican. With all due respect,

19:52

your holiness, you wouldn't last an hour in the West

19:55

Hollywood equinox that was raised in. Celine

19:59

Dion. who canceled her tour

20:01

dates in 2022 after being diagnosed with

20:03

Stiff Person Syndrome, a real

20:05

condition that is very important. Vowed

20:08

to make her come back during a today appearance this

20:10

week. I'm going

20:12

to go back on stage, even

20:15

if I have to crawl, even if

20:17

I have to talk

20:20

with my hands. I

20:22

will. I

20:24

will. I am Celine Dion.

20:30

Hell yeah. I can't wait. My

20:33

person is becoming stiff just thinking about it. In

20:38

disgusting news, Elon Musk had a sexual relationship

20:40

with a woman he'd met while she was

20:42

an intern at SpaceX, according to a reporter

20:44

in the Wall Street Journal. So

20:47

the morning show knew, said one of the three people

20:49

I know who watches the morning show. So

20:53

everyone hates dating apps, but when people need that

20:55

work, they hate that too. Where

20:57

else is the CEO supposed to meet a much

20:59

younger intern to carry his seed? Look,

21:03

the way that all of your parents met is now illegal,

21:05

so we just have to face it. And

21:09

finally, hot dog eating champion Joey Chestnut

21:11

has been banned from this year's Nathan's

21:13

hot dog eating contest after he signed

21:15

a deal to represent impossible foods. Throw

21:19

up Nathan's, here's a hot dog eat hot

21:21

dog world out there. I

21:24

personally was stunned to find out that Joey Chestnut

21:26

had an endorsement deal with impossible hot dogs. I

21:29

always assumed that if he had a

21:31

food sponsorship, it was with Chestnuts. Chestnuts.

21:36

They're edible. Europeans seem to think.

21:40

Said an impossible food spokesperson, we love

21:42

Joey and support him in any contest

21:44

he chooses. It's okay to experiment

21:46

with a new dog. Yours shouldn't have

21:48

to be exclusive to just one wiener. Yeah.

21:53

Just a reminder to Nathan's and everyone

21:56

else bringing heteronormative relationship ideas to commerce,

21:58

monogamy is a prison of your own

22:00

design. Personally, I'm

22:02

Polly. Well, I'm gonna get a couple of hot dogs

22:04

later. Thank

22:07

you. And there's one

22:09

last thing. Before we go,

22:11

we've got a little segment

22:13

we're calling America's Least Wanted.

22:15

This week we're headed to Nevada, a

22:17

state brimming with a young diverse working class

22:20

as well as some of the oldest white

22:22

people America has to offer. Our GOP salesman

22:25

de jour is Senate candidate

22:27

Sam Brown. That's

22:29

right, retired Army captain and career failed politician

22:32

Sam Brown won his GOP primary on Tuesday

22:34

night, which means we will have to deal

22:36

with him until November. Hopefully after that, he'll

22:38

make like a disease you pick up at

22:41

a Vegas bachelor party and get cleared out

22:43

of our system with a standard course of

22:45

antibiotics. Nevada's

22:47

current sitting senators are two Democratic women

22:49

who won their races by razor thin

22:51

margins, including Brown's opponent come November and

22:53

come with Jackie Rosen. Senator Rosen

22:55

is a 66 year old pro abortion Jewish

22:57

mom. So yes, I do consider her to be

23:00

a member of my immediate family. Brown, for

23:02

his part hasn't had a real job since

23:04

he left the military 12 years ago and

23:06

has made multiple failed bids for office, including

23:09

the Texas state legislature in 2014 and an

23:11

embarrassing GOP Senate primary loss in 2022. You

23:14

know what they say? If at first you don't succeed,

23:16

move to a different state and try to find new

23:18

ways to not succeed. Also,

23:21

hasn't had a real job in

23:23

12 years. Congratulations, Sam, you're an

23:25

honorary LA screenwriter. Sam

23:29

Brown has previously supported full abortion bands with no

23:31

exception for rape or incest, but now is trying

23:33

to back pedal a bit and say that he

23:35

opposes a federal ban. But I

23:37

respect Sam. He has a strong, unshakable moral

23:39

belief in whatever seems like it might win

23:41

him the race that he's in right now.

23:45

One of Sam's particularly wild statements was

23:47

a recent assertion that January 6th was

23:49

so complex and that many people were

23:51

there for patriotic expression. Patriotic

23:54

expression. Is that what we're calling shitting on the house

23:56

speaker's desk now? Victory

24:00

Speech on Tuesday Brown said, it is tonight that

24:02

we continue to deliver hope that the American dream

24:04

is not dead. A

24:06

mega Republican trying to sell you the American dream is kind

24:09

of like me trying to sell you a cyber truck. I

24:11

don't know what it is or how it works. And

24:14

I will start crying if even one person asked me

24:16

how they can acquire it. So

24:19

if you wanna stop Sam Brown and

24:21

other extremely conservative politicians just like him,

24:23

then go to votesaveamerica.com/2024 to find out

24:25

more. This

24:27

has been, America's Least Wanted. Woo!

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and welcome back to Love It or Leave It. I

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am not John Lovett. I am Guy Branham. John

27:20

Lovett is off on assignment. But

27:24

before the break, we had some laughs poking

27:26

fun at Martha Analito and her United States

27:28

of Shame flag in the monologue. But

27:31

this is first and foremost a news show.

27:34

And we thought it only fair to reach out to Martha Ann

27:36

for comment. And to our absolute

27:38

shock and delight, she responded. Ladies

27:41

and gentlemen, will you please put your hands

27:43

together for an exclusive with Martha Analito?

27:49

Oh yes, Love It or Leave It, that's my

27:51

message. That's my message to

27:53

the gays and these liberals. Hello. Hello,

27:56

Martha. You've had a real rough week. Thank you, Guy.

27:58

I was so happy that you were here. reached

28:00

out and I wanted to respond as

28:02

someone with a good honest Christian cisgendered

28:04

name. God! Look, you

28:06

know Martha Ann, I'm not like those other media elites,

28:08

I'm not like those other homosexuals. Thank you! I

28:11

understand that a lot of pressure... They always

28:13

come for me! Why do you think that

28:15

is? They come for me because they're jealous,

28:17

they look at what I'm wearing, they look

28:19

at my... they look at my threads, my

28:21

fashions, and they say things, they say horrible

28:23

left-wing things out of the left side of

28:26

their tongue. They say that I'm wearing a

28:28

recliner. They

28:30

say that I look... they say that I look like the

28:32

inside out of a locker

28:35

room bag. It's six flags. And let

28:37

me tell you, I know a few things

28:40

about six flags, don't I? Six flags upside

28:42

down! No, Martha, how many flags do you

28:44

own? Oh honey, we've got a

28:46

whole flag garage. Uh-huh. We've got... it's

28:48

where we stuff all of our flags.

28:50

We've got flags for any kind of...

28:52

any government, not just the Confederates, but

28:54

any other one that never succeeded from

28:56

the United States, including Vermont and Texas,

28:58

and hopefully soon Oregon, hopefully, fingers crossed.

29:02

No, Martha Ann, why is it you

29:04

feel most comfortable communicating through flags? Well,

29:06

of course, you know, my parents were

29:08

both in the military, as you know,

29:11

and I'm a very proud... I'm a

29:13

very proud patriot in this

29:15

country, and when I met

29:17

my Samuel at the Law

29:19

Library at the University of

29:22

KY, we bonded. Uh-huh. We

29:24

bonded, of course. You guys

29:26

both love communicating about the

29:28

greatness of our government. He

29:30

threw legal decisions and used for pieces

29:32

of fabric. Well, there was a time

29:34

in this... there was a time in

29:37

this country when you could communicate honestly,

29:39

before the medium of television, which was

29:41

controlled by, you know, them. Yes. You

29:43

could communicate from high hills. Which

29:45

of the thems are we talking about here?

29:48

You know, the theys and the thems, the

29:50

capitals of the lower cases, upside down, if

29:52

it's confusing to you, but I like a

29:54

good signal core, and there's nothing like communicating

29:57

across a lagoon or a large mountain ravine

29:59

with a... saying, hey,

30:01

watch out. Oh! Oh! If

30:04

it's good enough for a Navy, it's good enough for

30:06

you. Exactly. And I'm so glad to talk to you,

30:08

because these liberals, they will trick me into an interview,

30:10

and they will say the most horrible things when they

30:12

write it up for their Pulitzer Prizes. They'll

30:15

say she's like Lucille Bluth. So

30:18

that was a little shocking. You talked to a woman

30:21

who was presenting herself as being a conservative friend of

30:23

yours, but then it came out in an article that

30:25

she was insincere. Do you feel like you would have

30:27

understood her better if you guys had been communicating through

30:29

flags? Well, I have a few drinks here

30:32

and there. They invite me into some charity drink.

30:34

What are you drinking? What do you drink? What's

30:36

your drink? I have a vodka and

30:38

holy water. That's what I like to have. It's

30:41

blessed, and it blesses me. And I think,

30:43

yes, I have the understanding, but the Washington

30:45

Press Court doesn't understand my flag. You won

30:48

a little Grey Goose, a little Holy Father.

30:50

Exactly. And that's one of the flags I

30:52

would like to fly. That's definitely one of

30:54

the flags I want to

30:56

fly over the lagoon during Pride Month.

30:58

So back at these, you

31:00

know what? So I want to fly a

31:02

flag that says, Frosiajine,

31:05

upside down. Upside

31:09

down. So these faggots

31:11

can drain some of their business

31:13

out. What are you

31:15

indicating by making Frosiajine be upside down? What

31:17

are you saying, man? Well, I

31:19

think that it's time that their regime is

31:21

turned upside down. There's nothing like a gesture

31:23

of an upside down flag. Can

31:26

we say that? There's nothing like that.

31:28

I have elegance. It's elegant. One of

31:30

the most beautiful in my collection is the Don't Tread on

31:32

Me flag. But it's just a

31:34

snake who's very confused. It

31:38

looks like one of the higher levels of Cuba. But

31:42

Marla Anna, it's so interesting to me, because you've

31:44

had some difficulties with the queer community, but you

31:46

love the snake on your Tread on Me flag.

31:48

And let's be honest, most gay men are vipers.

31:50

I would think that there would be ways that

31:53

you could find kinship with them. Oh,

31:55

I don't want kinship with them. In fact, I'm ready

31:57

to piss them off. They pissed me off. That's why

31:59

I'm flying. They really have an incredible library

32:01

of flags. Guy, let me tell you, this

32:04

is a little bit, Bye

32:06

honey, meow meow meow, Bye

32:08

honey honey bunny bunny bunny,

32:10

Meow, meow! She's a

32:12

bunny cat, isn't she? I have a flag

32:14

that I want to fly over the lagoon

32:16

next year. Just show them, just show those

32:19

boys for pride. It's a Calvin, you know

32:21

what Calvin pisses? It's a Calvin pissing, it's

32:23

a Calvin pissing on Obama, but it's upside

32:25

down so it's pissing right back in his

32:27

mouth. I think it's one of the most

32:30

elegant forms of political discourse in this

32:32

country, a Calvin peeing sticker or flag.

32:35

Say what you like about the Federalist

32:37

Papers, but I've learned so much more

32:39

from Ford F-150s that have Calvin peeing

32:42

on things. Oh honey, there's nothing I

32:44

love more than the Federalist Papers. I

32:46

met my husband Sammy Boy in the

32:48

law library at the University of KY.

32:51

There's nothing I like more than

32:54

Alexander Hamilton getting reamed by

32:56

the true father of our Republic,

33:00

Thomas Jefferson. Were

33:03

you a big fan of the musical Hamilton? Of course

33:05

not honey. You

33:08

know what, I obtained a flyer

33:10

to the Hamilton musical and I flew it upside

33:12

down outside. No Martha Ann, I

33:14

do have a question. And really to get back, oh

33:17

go ahead, of course darling of course, look at you,

33:19

you're fierce! I have a question about this flag, now

33:21

this is a flag that you designed yourself, can

33:24

you tell us more about it? Thank you! We're

33:27

going to have a musical number when we debut it

33:29

at the lagoon. There's going to be a

33:31

fireworks show off of our boat that's going to look a lot

33:33

like Disneyland at night in the summertime. We're

33:35

going to have fire boats, the flag

33:38

itself will be on fire as it's raised, and

33:40

it will be put out by the spirit and

33:42

tears of Jesus. I

33:45

have a question. And to take it down, of course

33:47

we have the upside down American flag, it's going to

33:49

be, you have

33:51

to have, there's an upside down flag

33:53

protocol. The upside down American flag has

33:56

a protocol. We're going

33:58

to have obviously a pride. anti-pride

34:00

flag reversed in every way.

34:03

Upside-down pride flag, inverse colors, black

34:05

and white, gray scale, and there's

34:07

going to be a thin blue

34:09

line down the middle of it.

34:11

Just to show that queer people

34:13

are not welcome at pride, but

34:15

police officers are. And

34:20

I know the entire story. This is not

34:22

flippant, you know. If you're going to fly

34:24

an upside-down American flag, you better know the

34:26

story. The regular American flag that the liberals

34:28

like, it's Francis Scott Key, it's War of 1812.

34:31

The upside-down American flag has a proud

34:35

tradition dating back to the War of 2181.

34:37

And it was,

34:40

of course, in honor of Yek Tok's

34:43

sick nurse, of course, that Francis

34:45

Scott Key backwards. So

34:48

are you a time traveler or just a big,

34:50

big fan of things being upside down? Honey, I

34:53

see forwards and backwards. I fly flags upside down!

34:55

Always or just when you have the vodka in

34:57

holy water? And you've got

34:59

to have a little bit of panache and approach

35:01

that says, shut up! One

35:04

final question. I have two final answers. My

35:08

final question is, you love

35:10

this Virgonia flag so much. Virgonia,

35:12

shame! Shame, shame, shame. And you

35:14

also understand my perspective that I

35:16

see a strong-willed

35:19

woman with a short, sensible

35:22

haircut. And a short, sensible husband who

35:24

loves having a V in her mouth.

35:27

And I have to wonder, do you have more

35:29

in common with the queer community than you're opening

35:31

up with that? I

35:33

should use that! I should fight that back when

35:36

the liberals come for me the next time! You

35:38

know how I think of myself? I think of

35:40

myself as a strong, big woman who's playing croquet

35:43

with flamingos in her large yard

35:46

overlooking a lagoon. And

35:48

I have a shorter, diminutive husband. And he

35:50

says, can't we have a trial? Can't we

35:52

have a little trial? Ladies

35:55

and gentlemen, I have one more flag!

35:57

It's a stop the steal flag. but

36:00

it's steel, as in a man of steel,

36:02

and it's got Superman upside down with a

36:04

flash through it. Is it made of kryptonite?

36:06

Of course it is! Ladies

36:09

and gentlemen, Martha Analito. Shame!

36:12

They're killing it! James,

36:15

don't leave. Of course. We just want to

36:17

be, we have to be perfectly honest for

36:19

journalistic reasons. That wasn't actually

36:22

Martha Analito. That was

36:24

actually gifted performer and

36:26

really chameleon, James Adomian. Thanks,

36:29

guys. Thanks for the opportunity. I have never played

36:32

Martha An before. I mean, I assume that she

36:34

was in your SNL characters.

36:36

I would assume back when you were

36:38

going before Lauren, back before you put

36:40

gay people on the show, you were

36:42

like, I got a lawyer's wife from

36:44

Kentucky! That is

36:46

good reach, because that is exactly as obscure

36:48

as I would have gone back. So

36:51

James, thank you so much for joining us. Yes,

36:54

love. What do you have going on in

36:56

your professional life right now that has you shilling, that

36:58

has you coming out, leaving behind your

37:00

lovely, most fearless life and gracing

37:03

us with your presence? Well, they know I'm available,

37:05

first of all. Yes. We're

37:07

together in the Outstanding Documentary on Netflix, which

37:09

is imminently to be released. I don't know

37:12

if it's before or after this, but I'm

37:14

one of these days now. It's Junie, our

37:16

friend Paige Hurwitz made a documentary about the

37:18

history of queer comedy and how that relates

37:20

to the history of queer politics in America.

37:24

And I'm in it, and James is in it doing a

37:26

very, very funny bit about, will you explain

37:28

the premise of the bit? Well, the joke

37:31

is from my stand-up, and I say, you know, when

37:33

I don't sound the way you're supposed to

37:35

sound when I'm getting, you know, so when

37:37

I'm receiving a, you know what

37:40

I mean? And so I say,

37:42

I sound like somebody's dad woke up and

37:44

didn't turn the lights on in the hallway

37:47

in the middle of the night. Can you hear a little bit of that?

37:51

Ow! God damn it! Etc.

37:55

Alright, that's lovely. So check

37:57

out Outstanding on Netflix. else

38:00

James you have anything special going on? In

38:02

fact I have a very special special coming

38:04

out it's called Path of Most Resistance and

38:06

it's coming out on 800 pound

38:08

gorilla in September so look for that there'll be

38:10

a preview that's available if you really want to

38:13

see it in August but the big release is

38:15

in September Path of Most Resistance. James just a

38:17

couple of hard-hitting questions to follow that up. Are

38:19

you one of our best gay comedians working today?

38:21

No. I would say

38:24

so. I would say you're one of our best

38:26

comedians working today. I would say you're a master

38:28

of character. I'd say you're a damn good writer

38:30

and I would also say that you are always

38:32

an interesting compelling political thinker and that that always

38:34

comes through in your stand-up. Well Guy, I would

38:39

only say this I've only ever wanted to

38:41

hold up a mirror to society or if

38:43

it's a one-on-one interview a mirror to the

38:45

person giving me those fabulous compliments like you

38:47

guy Branham the one of the very greatest

38:50

we have. James tell everybody

38:52

what happened when we met each other for

38:54

the first time at a party over 10 years ago.

38:56

How can we forget this? Guy Branham and

38:58

I hit it off ie we were drunk and

39:00

started wrestling at a backyard party. We discovered

39:03

that we were both former

39:05

football players and we went for it.

39:08

When you find out your football players you go

39:10

okay let's do wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen we broke

39:12

offense. We broke offense. James and I met each

39:15

other. We broke offense

39:17

and after the break yet

39:19

another amazing comedian I have

39:21

broken offense with the Dean

39:23

of USC's Law School,

39:25

Franita Tolson. Ladies and

39:28

gentlemen anytime

39:40

I get to guest shows love it or leave

39:42

it I always love to force them to talk

39:44

about law stuff because I love talking about law

39:46

stuff and so they got me an amazing person

39:48

to talk to. The Dean of USC's School of

39:50

Law, Franita Tolson. Please welcome Franita Tolson. Dean

39:57

Tolson that is a very pink blazer.

40:00

how is your pride going? It's

40:03

going well. Wonderful.

40:05

I mean you're bringing the energy here. There

40:08

have been a couple of bumps in our pride and

40:10

one is that the Supreme Court decided to pop out

40:12

with a couple of new decisions this

40:15

morning. How are they doing? So

40:18

are we just sticking with today or just in

40:20

general? Just in general. How are

40:22

you feeling about this Roberts Court in

40:25

its current form? So I try not

40:27

to feel anything at all because I like to

40:29

have good days but I will say that I

40:32

will say I'm an optimistic person and I

40:34

always like to encourage people to be optimistic

40:37

but there are important lessons here. I think the

40:39

Roberts Court has taught us that we can't put all

40:41

of our faith in courts. And even when

40:44

you get a decision like the abortion decision where

40:46

it was 9-0 and they decided not to further

40:49

strike down abortion, even

40:52

in that sense they leave the door open for somebody

40:54

else to come along and challenge it. So

40:57

even the good news, it's hard to take

41:00

it as good news, but

41:02

I'm an election law scholar and

41:04

I pay special attention to the

41:06

Roberts Court in the democracy space

41:08

so they've done a lot of damage. In

41:11

2013 they struck down part of the Voting

41:13

Rights Act which is honestly one of the

41:16

most successful pieces of civil rights legislation that

41:18

this country has ever had since then. But

41:20

it works so good we don't need it

41:23

anymore. Who needs to be scrutinizing those southern states?

41:25

They're not doing anything to take the vote away from

41:27

anyone are they? Oh my goodness.

41:29

The facts on the ground tell a different story,

41:31

right? If you are a

41:33

person of color trying to vote across the south,

41:35

you have fewer polling locations. There

41:37

are more restrictive voter ID laws. There

41:40

are significant gerrymandering. Just a couple of weeks

41:42

ago the Supreme Court came out with a decision

41:44

where they refused to

41:48

sanction Louisiana for having a

41:50

racially gerrymandered district. And

41:52

the pernicious thing about that decision is that

41:54

we complain about partisan gerrymandering. The way the

41:57

Supreme Court wrote the decision, partisan gerrymandering is a

41:59

very important thing. gerrymandering is basically a

42:01

defense to a claim that the

42:03

state drew a district to make it

42:05

harder for minorities to vote. They can say,

42:07

oh, but you're Democrats, so it's okay

42:10

for us to draw this district

42:12

in this way. So why is

42:14

it more okay to draw districts

42:16

based on partisan lines than racial

42:18

lines? Partisanship is, according to the

42:20

court, not a category that the

42:22

court looks on suspiciously, whereas

42:24

race is. So it doesn't matter if

42:26

the district is drawn to benefit a

42:28

racial group or if it's drawn in

42:31

a way that puts them at a

42:33

detriment, right? So the state can say,

42:35

we drew this district in its way

42:37

because we wanted to bolster the strength

42:39

of the Republican or the Democratic Party,

42:41

because honestly partisan gerrymandering is a bipartisan

42:43

problem. Right? So partisanship

42:46

has emerged as a defense to

42:48

even the most egregious racial gerrymandering. So

42:50

at the end of the day, do

42:52

you approve more of a bipartisan

42:55

independent bodies districting like in

42:57

California than letting state legislators

43:00

do it in a partisan fashion? I definitely think

43:02

it's a step in the right direction. Right?

43:04

No system is going to be perfect. In

43:06

part, even, you know, polarization is a problem

43:08

that affects voters and regular people as well

43:10

as people who are elected. So I don't

43:12

mean to suggest that it's a perfect solution,

43:14

but it is a better solution than having

43:16

state legislatures draw lines in ways that

43:19

benefit whoever the majority party is.

43:21

So right now, like with a

43:23

very solidly conservative court and all

43:25

of them seeming relatively healthy, do

43:27

you think the thing that we should be

43:30

most scared about is election

43:32

law or is there do you think there's some

43:34

other area of law that has you having

43:36

a little trouble getting to

43:38

sleep at night? Is

43:41

the law the problem or is it just the

43:43

state of our political system?

43:45

Okay, say that.

43:48

The system has been the system for

43:50

a long time, right? So people hate

43:52

the electoral college. The electoral college kind of

43:54

is part of the deal. That's from 1787, right?

43:58

Political parties have been since almost the

44:00

founding of this country. So these are things

44:03

that are kind of baked in. Part of

44:05

it is this sense among the people

44:07

that America is inevitable. It's

44:10

not. But we have all those

44:12

movies from the 70s and 80s where people go and yell

44:14

in front of the Supreme Court, and then the Supreme Court

44:16

does the right thing, as it always

44:18

does in every case. And

44:20

that's so much fun. And everybody

44:23

going and voting and sort of hammering

44:25

out some sort of political compromise never

44:27

seems quite as cool. Do you know

44:29

what I mean? Guy, we both went

44:31

to law school at a time where we were

44:33

taught that the Warren Court was the best thing

44:35

on the planet. Right? They saved

44:37

the country. They did all

44:39

of these things, Brown versus Board of Education.

44:41

They have a lot of voting rights decisions.

44:43

They made rulings that allowed the federal government, the

44:45

president, to do things to protect people of color in

44:48

this country. And we look at that court as the

44:50

rule rather than the exception. Right. So

44:53

when you watch those movies and they're yelling at the

44:55

court to change things and the court changes things, the

44:57

Warren Court is the model for that, but it is

44:59

not reality. Yeah. The

45:01

Roberts Court is probably more, probably

45:04

better signifies where the court has been for much

45:06

of its history as opposed to the Warren Court.

45:09

Yeah. How do you

45:11

think they will get involved with the January 6th

45:13

decisions? Do you think that this court is

45:15

scared of getting too involved in

45:18

the presidential electoral process before the

45:20

election? Or do you

45:23

think that they are fully willing to get in there and make

45:25

some mess? I think the court

45:27

is the world's worst nosy neighbor in

45:29

some way. So let me explain

45:31

what I mean by that. The court

45:34

issues decisions where they sort of remove

45:36

themselves from the political process a bit.

45:39

So one prime example is the partisan

45:41

gerrymandering decision from a few years ago where the

45:43

court said, we don't want to resolve these

45:46

cases. Right? These present political questions we are not going

45:48

to weigh in. But then last

45:51

term, the court basically gives itself the

45:53

power to oversee the ability of state

45:55

supreme courts to tell state legislatures that

45:57

they have violated the state constitution when it comes

45:59

to the court. comes to gerrymandering. So they are

46:01

a nosy name. It's like I don't know.

46:03

The Supreme Court should not be putting its nose into a

46:06

state constitution if it can avoid it. Well you

46:08

know the fact that it deals with congressional elections

46:10

they feel like that gives it a role

46:12

to be able to have some oversight.

46:15

But in reality they don't want the heat that

46:17

comes with directly regulating partisan gerrymandering. And in fact

46:19

I would say some of the justices actually

46:21

think that it's okay as a practice.

46:24

Justice Alito he wrote it, the opinion out of

46:26

Louisiana that I referenced, he's the one who wrote

46:29

it. He actually says that you know partisan

46:31

gerrymandering doesn't offend the Constitution at all. Right?

46:35

And that hadn't been the court's posture. The court's

46:37

posture for the last 25 years they

46:39

were arguing over who should police it,

46:41

not the fact of whether or not

46:43

excessive gerrymandering violates the Constitution. So we're

46:45

in the situation that the Supreme Court

46:47

keeps saying, well Congress is gonna have

46:49

to tell them what to do. And

46:52

then Congress keeps not saying anything

46:54

because everything is so gridlocked politically. So

46:56

I mean does that inevitably

47:00

lead to conservatism? That's

47:05

a great question. I think in some part I

47:08

start from the baseline that the system

47:10

is inherently conservative. So I don't know

47:12

if you know pun things

47:14

to a Congress that won't do anything.

47:17

It's saying we are inviting conservatism. I

47:19

think the system itself the conservatism is

47:21

built in. And this is why I treat

47:23

the last well really the 60s and

47:25

everything that happened after that is that's

47:28

an aberration in our system. Because it

47:30

pushed back against this notion that we

47:32

are a conservative system. You have so much

47:34

rapid change and that's unusual for this country.

47:36

Well it's so interesting because it gave people

47:39

the sense that there are rights

47:42

as divorced from politics.

47:45

That there are rights that

47:47

should be inalienable and unrelated

47:49

to politics which is a

47:51

nice idea but

47:53

unachievable without politics. Yeah

47:56

yeah it's an idea that makes me warm and

47:58

fuzzy inside. Right? Like that's warm and fuzzy

48:00

but at the end of the day it's always

48:02

going to be a legislature to some extent. Do

48:04

we hate politics though? Okay so let's talk about

48:06

this right? You don't hate

48:08

politics. You hate partisanship. Okay. Right?

48:10

The court has always been political.

48:13

Think Marbury versus Madison. The court says we

48:15

get to decide what the Constitution means. That

48:17

was a political decision. Right? They said this

48:19

200 years ago the court has always been

48:22

political. We don't like the fact that the

48:24

court is partisan. That is what people mean

48:26

when they talk about the court being a political

48:28

entity. It's really part of the issue. What you

48:31

want is just periodically one

48:33

of them doing something a little bit crazy.

48:35

Like there was this decision in 1990 where

48:37

Scalia was like you you burn flags if you

48:40

want to. That's free speech. And everybody

48:42

was like oh Scalia is

48:44

not just a Republican. He is

48:46

somebody who is looking at this

48:48

philosophically. When you had you know

48:50

Kennedy and even O'Connor in her

48:52

way coming out for for gay

48:54

marriage or sodomy legalization it felt

48:56

like these people were not

48:59

just operatives of their parties.

49:01

But when especially when it comes to election

49:03

law it so frequently feels like they are

49:05

more and more behaving as though they are

49:07

operatives of their party. Well I

49:09

mean the people you just cited were in

49:11

the majority in Bush versus Gore. Yes. All

49:13

right let's for the children in the audience

49:17

let's just teach them a little bit about

49:19

what happened in 2000. Tell everybody about

49:21

Bush v. Gore. So the

49:24

election in 2000 came down to Florida.

49:26

They had to have a recount and because

49:29

the Florida Supreme Court didn't set uniform

49:31

counting standards for the recount the state

49:33

the US Supreme Court stopped the recount

49:36

but that effectively meant that George Bush

49:38

was the president. And so that decision

49:40

is credited with sort of creating this

49:42

partisan environment that we live in. But when Feneer

49:45

and I went to law school every

49:48

question in the law was determined by two

49:50

and a half sentences that Sandra Day O'Connor

49:52

had been able to bring herself to. Facts.

49:54

And so on so many issues when it

49:56

came. to

50:00

civil rights or religious freedom, she

50:02

felt sensible. But

50:05

then in Bush v. Gore, she

50:07

was like, oh no, if Al Gore gets elected,

50:09

I'll have to stay on the Supreme Court for

50:11

four more years, and I won't be able to

50:13

play as much tennis as I want to. She

50:16

actively at an election party complained about that

50:19

and then turned around a couple of

50:21

days later and issued

50:23

this decision, which

50:25

had the weirdest, tell them

50:27

about the little thing at the end. Oh

50:30

gosh. So at the end of

50:32

the decision, the Supreme Court basically says this decision

50:34

is only good for today, which had

50:36

never happened before. So later courts

50:38

couldn't cite it as precedent. Do you remember the

50:40

episode of The Simpsons where we find out the

50:42

principal Skinner has been armamentamzarian, and at the end

50:45

of the episode, they say, let us never speak

50:47

of this again. The Supreme Court

50:49

did that. The Supreme

50:51

Court was like, this is the law, but never

50:53

bring this up at a party. Yeah.

50:57

So Dean Tolson, for

51:00

a lot of very understandable reasons, a

51:03

lot of people are under-enthusiastic about this

51:05

election. And a lot of people who

51:08

kind of trust that American government

51:11

can keep going or maybe shouldn't keep going

51:15

aren't that enthusiastic about voting for either

51:17

of the parties. And as somebody who

51:19

has spent your life studying

51:22

and fighting to give

51:24

people access to the vote, I

51:26

wanted you to talk about what you think it

51:28

is important for people to vote. OK. So I'm

51:31

going to start with something that's not going to

51:33

be popular. I fight for the right of people

51:35

to vote, and they can also choose not to

51:37

vote. And that's not popular. Also,

51:40

don't weigh in on who people should vote for.

51:43

Part of the beauty of democracy is that

51:45

it's messy and it's complicated, and you embrace

51:48

all of it in all aspects. But

51:51

that being said, voting

51:53

is important because people are working hard to take it

51:55

from you. And they wouldn't be

51:57

working so hard to take it from you if it wasn't important.

52:00

People focus on the presidential election every four

52:02

years. There are elections pretty much every year

52:04

in some way, shape, or form. And even

52:06

in a presidential election year, there are elections

52:08

up and down the ballot. So even if

52:10

you hate the people running for president, there

52:12

are other elections where you can exercise your

52:14

political power. And in fact, those elections will

52:16

probably have a bigger payoff for you in terms

52:18

of your day to day. Right. So

52:20

it's just very important to exercise your political

52:23

power and not get so disinterested

52:25

that you lose sight of the fact that it's not

52:27

just about the presidential election. And

52:29

also, my people were enslaved. I do not

52:31

have the privilege of saying this doesn't matter

52:34

when people die for me to even have

52:36

the right to write the things I write

52:38

to say the things I write without fear

52:40

of anyone firing me or hurting me or

52:42

any. So for me, it's

52:44

a respect issue. And I imagine for a lot

52:46

of people of color across this country, they feel

52:48

the same way. So that's in and of itself

52:50

is a good reason to vote. And for

52:53

women and for people who had to

52:55

fight so hard for citizenship, like there

52:57

are so many people in this

52:59

country traditionally would have been denied access

53:01

to the political process. And

53:04

people fought really hard to

53:07

get it. So

53:10

it goes to your question about

53:12

the baseline being conservative. More

53:15

people were excluded than included.

53:17

Disability, religion. Yeah. Right.

53:20

It's not just race. It's

53:23

gender. If we want to stop

53:25

this from being a country that is by

53:27

and for white male landowners,

53:30

we kind of have to do some of the work. We

53:32

do. And also, to your point about elections,

53:34

anytime people are like, oh, the

53:36

election is just Coke and Pepsi. I'm always

53:38

like, but there's an election four months before

53:41

that when there are like two ladies and

53:43

a school teacher and a guy who's kind

53:45

of crazy. And go figure out which of

53:47

them you want to vote for. We get

53:49

to do that, too. Learn the love, Dr.

53:51

Pepper. All

53:54

right. Dean Tolson, Democrats

53:57

seem to like committed to forcing

53:59

Escotas. ethics bill through the Senate. First of

54:01

all, do you think if they pass that the

54:03

Supreme Court will let it stand? I

54:06

don't think it matters, right? What's the enforcement mechanism? Right,

54:09

exactly. Like in theory a Supreme

54:11

Court justice can be impeached, right?

54:13

And so I mean you can use the ethics code as

54:16

a basis for impeachment but it's really hard to

54:18

clear that bar. So Abe Fortis

54:20

did so much less than Clarence

54:22

Thomas and got his ass booted

54:24

back in the 70s. That's a different time. This

54:27

is like none of those people are

54:29

getting impeached but it's

54:31

probably gonna be an uphill battle which

54:34

is why I wanted to float some

54:36

of our own ethical rules for the

54:38

Supreme Court in front of you in

54:40

a game called Let's Get Ethical. Are

54:42

you down to play? Okay. Okay, first

54:44

rule. If you are on the Supreme Court

54:46

you can't fly an insurrectionist flag in front

54:48

of your beach house even if your spouse

54:50

is extremely annoying about it. Do you think

54:52

that that would be an okay rule or

54:54

not? It's very specific. I

55:00

think they have a good policy on

55:02

recusing yourself when there's a clear conflict

55:04

of interest that probably applies

55:06

to that. Okay, so what would be

55:08

like a path for making some sort

55:10

of enforceable recusal policy? Because right now

55:12

it literally is just everybody gets to

55:15

choose. And like there was one

55:17

time back in the 60s or 70s when

55:19

just everybody had Alcoa stock and everybody had

55:21

to recuse themselves and so they had a

55:23

bunch of people who weren't Supreme Court justices

55:25

make the ruling. But like nobody recuses themselves

55:27

anymore, do they? Well they do. I mean

55:29

they do occasionally. It's in cases where people don't

55:31

even take note of it because people are watching

55:34

the high-profile cases to see who recused and people don't

55:36

recuse in those cases. Alright, so

55:38

how could we do something for

55:40

enforceable recusal? I don't know.

55:42

I just don't

55:45

think that there's a good answer to that. This

55:47

doesn't mean that Congress doesn't have other tools. I

55:49

mean Congress has the power of the purse. Congress

55:52

could always strip the court's jurisdiction over certain

55:54

matters. These are things that Congress

55:56

has done in the past. I'm not necessarily advocating it here

55:58

but I know that there's always this. sense that because

56:00

nothing's happening, Congress can't do anything and

56:02

that's just not true. There are

56:04

things Congress can do, and I'm not saying that they're

56:07

necessarily appropriate in this circumstance, that at

56:09

least should inform the conversation, I think.

56:11

Yeah. All right. Rule two. If

56:14

you make a ruling that impacts a community of which you are not

56:16

a member, you have to dress up as a member of that community

56:18

for a day and live as one of them like when Tyra wore

56:21

the fat suit. I

56:26

don't know if a day is long enough. All right. Okay.

56:32

If you uphold anti-trans or gay legislation, you

56:34

do not get to listen to the fun

56:37

90s dance music they play at CVS or

56:39

Walgreens. Really

56:41

fair. All right. Once

56:45

a year, the entire Supreme Court has to go

56:47

on a girls' trip to somewhere in the Caribbean

56:49

where they will drink a few marks, get in

56:51

the hot tub, and really reconnect. That's

56:56

like my worst nightmare, being

56:59

in saloon and running into Alito on

57:01

his swim shorts. No, thank you. All

57:05

right. If you make Sonia Sotomayor

57:08

cry, you have to apologize privately, publicly, and with

57:10

a cookie cake of her choosing. Here, we found

57:12

an example. This is a hardship cookie cake that

57:14

says, I'm very sorry. Do

57:17

you think that should be required? As long as you have to

57:20

also post it on social media. All right.

57:23

A majority of justices should be allowed to force recusal

57:25

from a justice who has a personal interest in the

57:27

case. I

57:30

actually like that. Okay. Yeah,

57:32

I like that. Okay. But

57:34

then force them under threat of what? I

57:36

mean, like, that's the

57:38

thing. I mean, if you had an operation and there

57:41

was a formal vote, one could argue that they then

57:43

just like couldn't sit. I mean, the thing is, is

57:45

like collegiality matters

57:47

so much. And being able to

57:50

listen to each other and respect each other

57:52

and say, if you pull your, if you

57:54

don't pull your bullshit, I won't pull my bullshit.

57:57

And like, it's why when

57:59

you get those. stories about, oh,

58:01

Scalia and Ginsburg

58:03

were friends. It sounds so corny

58:05

and so all of that, but

58:08

like it kind of matters. And

58:10

it also kind of matters that

58:13

your colleagues looking at you and being

58:15

like, why the fuck are you listening

58:17

to this? Your son is like counsel

58:20

for that department. But I do

58:22

think that particular rule raises the question of

58:24

what the chief justice can do, right? Because

58:26

the norm setting starts at the top. Yes.

58:29

I mean, say what you like

58:31

about Roberts. He has tried a little bit, a

58:34

little bit. Like even when it came

58:36

to the Affordable Care Act of just being like,

58:38

well, I will not wreck this government. Let's try

58:40

to let Obama have the one thing he was

58:42

elected to do happen. Like Roberts

58:45

has made some noises. It hasn't been enough,

58:48

but somebody has to set norms.

58:51

I don't even know if that's about norm setting. And

58:53

I'm also not in the business of congratulating people for

58:55

doing what they supposed to do anyway. Yes, fair. OK,

59:00

two more rules. Justices should have

59:02

to disclose all gifts received and provide

59:04

explanations for why those gifts don't violate

59:07

the emoluments clause. I love it.

59:09

Could one take emoluments clause action

59:11

against somebody in a situation like

59:14

Thomas? Or is the answer just

59:16

impeachment is the only response? There's nothing you

59:18

can do without 60 Cent. Like under our

59:20

current system, impeachment is the only answer because

59:22

it's really tough to think about who would

59:24

have stand in to bring the emoluments clause

59:26

challenge. I feel like it's

59:28

so easy to be like, Democrats don't do anything when we

59:31

elect them with 51 senators. And

59:33

it is just sort of like, baby, let's just see

59:35

what 63 feels like. Let's

59:38

see what it feels like when we can say, go

59:41

fuck yourself, Kristin. We're passing laws. And

59:45

finally, but every

59:48

justice must wash their robe themselves

59:50

once a month. Minimum? Twice

59:55

a month. Ladies

59:58

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raised the possibility of keeping the discourse at a

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1:02:23

of those things I was enjoying him. It seems like

1:02:25

all we can really talk about right now is the

1:02:27

Supreme Court because what the fuck? I

1:02:30

mean, sorry, sorry, sorry Dean. Sorry

1:02:33

Yes, why wasn't it? It's

1:02:35

so hard because like we've we've expected the Supreme

1:02:37

Court to be the adults in the room while

1:02:40

Electro politics has been kind of babies

1:02:42

about things and we're at a point

1:02:44

in time when we really need some

1:02:46

electoral politicians We we need some electoral

1:02:49

leadership in this country. So that's the

1:02:51

Supreme Court will stop with their bullshit

1:02:53

Maybe we have to be the change that we need

1:02:55

right? We we

1:02:58

had a wonderful conversation about institutions before we

1:03:00

came out here And I think that we

1:03:02

look at these institutions as saviors But

1:03:05

think about Atlanta and

1:03:07

Georgia in 2020, right? The

1:03:10

reason that Georgia went blue in

1:03:12

2020 was people on the ground. That's grassroots

1:03:14

That was not people litigating election cases in

1:03:16

court. That was not the state. That's obviously

1:03:19

not the state legislature It's not it's not the

1:03:21

institutions. It's the people who are Effectuating

1:03:23

the change that they want to see I

1:03:26

mean the terrible thing about America. We were talking about

1:03:28

it before is Democracy kind

1:03:30

of has to be one of your hobbies like

1:03:32

to some extent Americans have to

1:03:35

Like be participatory in public life

1:03:39

Like we recently went through something

1:03:41

in our industry where you

1:03:43

know, we had to step up We had to go on

1:03:45

strike and say that we were going to put aside You

1:03:48

lost we all lost a year of

1:03:50

our career Setting set it

1:03:52

drawing a lot a line in the sands like

1:03:55

was that hard for you? It was

1:03:57

it was very hard for me. It was very hard for me. Not just

1:03:59

in terms of Personal hardship and but

1:04:01

it was. it hard for me

1:04:03

to watch other people who has

1:04:05

known for twenty five years who

1:04:07

work in all the other crafts

1:04:09

unions and watching them suffer but

1:04:11

still stay in solidarity. And so.

1:04:14

You know it isn't a unique inaction that

1:04:16

goes on for wealth. People started to buckle,

1:04:18

they started to flinch and at the same

1:04:20

time it's sell to me. Like.

1:04:23

We were seeing something. It's happening everywhere.

1:04:25

It wasn't just about us at all,

1:04:27

we just seem to be very visible

1:04:30

front line fight against companies that are

1:04:32

working not for how to what's best

1:04:34

for this particular are some a business

1:04:36

in the long run but what serves

1:04:38

the investor class how do we got

1:04:40

this industry? Hollywood was working fine and

1:04:43

still they started chasing the silicone valley

1:04:45

models. Really like every time you ask

1:04:47

yourself why Tv and movies are bad

1:04:49

be answer is because they are trying

1:04:51

to make it a silicon Valley like

1:04:53

you maximize it is no I mean

1:04:55

companies that we worked for the big

1:04:58

companies are Amazon's an Apple and neither

1:05:00

of them need this business. But I

1:05:02

did feel truly ridiculous when we were

1:05:04

at a point in time when like

1:05:06

the loud crying voice for labour in

1:05:08

America was judo us see it smiles

1:05:11

when read we're in big trouble Justice

1:05:13

But they bring in the past it's

1:05:15

always been a really poor actors and

1:05:17

Tv writers release. Are you suffering but

1:05:19

in this particular moment I think people

1:05:21

were able to see those numbers and

1:05:23

seats. Oh no. like every other. Business

1:05:26

The middle class has been gutted from miss.

1:05:28

Most people who you think are making a

1:05:30

great living can't afford their insurance like truly

1:05:32

this country used to be good at making

1:05:35

cars. We are not good at making cars

1:05:37

anymore and we've been good at making Tv

1:05:39

shows and movies for a long time and

1:05:42

that's given us a lot of power internationally

1:05:44

and. Like our

1:05:46

government is letting this industry be

1:05:48

torn apart. Like the one thing

1:05:51

specifically. Talk about what a I

1:05:53

means for. Creative. Work because

1:05:55

it feels speculative and weird, but it

1:05:57

also this is something that I actually.

1:06:00

came to learn about. On

1:06:02

the picket line, I was stopped a bunch because

1:06:04

they said, there's a rumor that you have worked

1:06:06

in a superhero franchise. That means

1:06:08

you probably are at the cutting edge

1:06:10

of that technology. Have you been scanned?

1:06:13

And I said, I've been scanned multiple times. You walk

1:06:15

into a little dome, there's a thousand cameras in there,

1:06:17

and all of a sudden there's a little digital you

1:06:19

that they can do whatever they want with. And in

1:06:21

the past, it's been they'll use it in a car

1:06:23

crash or something, and you're kind of glad they have

1:06:25

it. But

1:06:28

at a certain point, the union walked away from

1:06:30

the union said, look, we're very close to

1:06:32

a deal. You just have to promise us

1:06:35

that you can't use that without our permission

1:06:37

in the future without paying us. And after

1:06:39

we're dead and the corporations walked

1:06:41

away from the table. And I thought,

1:06:43

oh, my God, that's because that's what

1:06:45

they wanted. I mean,

1:06:47

for me, that is so scary to

1:06:50

have all of these new innovative ways

1:06:52

of changing our industry that doesn't

1:06:54

have settled law about it right now where you

1:06:56

really can. Like a

1:06:59

background actor can go in, sign something

1:07:01

they didn't read, and then a corporation

1:07:04

can use their likeness forever. So

1:07:08

change is the only constant, right? And

1:07:10

so AI has changed every every

1:07:12

field. It's even changed the delivery

1:07:14

of legal services. And so I think

1:07:16

everyone is being forced to think through how

1:07:19

that technology changes your day to day and

1:07:21

changes your your ability to learn a living.

1:07:23

But I will say to one just

1:07:26

listening to your exchange, one of the

1:07:28

things that I took from everything that

1:07:30

happened in your field is the beauty

1:07:33

of the collective. Right. Like

1:07:35

it is a lesson that translates

1:07:37

across fields. Right. The change that

1:07:39

you can effectuate if you stick

1:07:42

together is a theme that very

1:07:44

much resonates in our system of elections. Right. When

1:07:46

we talk about all of the change that we

1:07:48

need, whenever you focus on the individual, it's very

1:07:50

hard to get things done. And

1:07:53

the country has become very individualistic. And I think

1:07:55

the strike reminded everybody of what you can

1:07:57

do when you stick together. Dean

1:08:00

Colson one of the cool things about the strike

1:08:02

was that Chris Pine might be there More

1:08:08

elections involved Chris Pine may be

1:08:10

voting at people's voting polling place

1:08:12

that would improve election turnout I

1:08:15

don't know if he's my favorite Chris Let's

1:08:19

do this favorite Chris Okay

1:08:25

Clark I mean you've worked with several of them I

1:08:28

mean I have a implicit bias with the Chris

1:08:30

Evans Captain America. I mean yes I mean in

1:08:32

that my character was deeply in love with him

1:08:37

Okay, so so tell us about so tell us

1:08:39

about that was that part of your truth in

1:08:41

the performance You're

1:08:44

trying to get me really written out forever. Yes. I

1:08:47

mean I say I watch you while you were sleeping

1:08:49

I had some Design

1:08:51

input on your costume. There's some kind of deep

1:08:53

crush. Look, this is the kind of passion that

1:08:55

AI can never achieve So

1:08:58

tell us about tell us about you a new

1:09:00

movie with the amazing James Squibb that is coming

1:09:03

out And everyone I had a friend who saw

1:09:05

it at a festival and she said it's amazing.

1:09:07

It's a gorgeous movie June Squibb 95

1:09:10

year old actress years on Broadway and then

1:09:13

really started doing films only in the last

1:09:15

seven or eight years got nominated for Nebraska

1:09:17

Alexander Payne knows what he's doing. Yes, he

1:09:19

does She plays

1:09:21

a woman a grandmother who's widowed

1:09:24

who's very close with her grandson He helps

1:09:26

her with her computer. It's all very familiar

1:09:28

And then she gets a call from him

1:09:30

saying that he's been in a terrible accident.

1:09:32

He hurt somebody they need ten

1:09:34

thousand dollars right away and she immediately sends it off

1:09:36

and of course it had nothing to do with him

1:09:39

and Myself and

1:09:41

Parker Posey the grandson's

1:09:43

parents We're pretty

1:09:45

sure this means she can't take care of

1:09:47

herself anymore She's not doing well and she

1:09:49

turns off her hearing aids and

1:09:51

she gets mad and she decides

1:09:54

she's gonna go get her goddamn money back So

1:09:57

it's the world's slowest moving action movie That

1:10:01

sounds amazing, but also you said two words

1:10:03

that we can't just move past. This is

1:10:05

Pride Month. Parker Posey, what's that

1:10:07

like? I've

1:10:10

known her since the early days of Party Girl in

1:10:12

New York, and I had not had the

1:10:14

working together experience, and

1:10:17

it was all that I could ever have imagined and

1:10:20

more. So when it comes to

1:10:22

working with another actor, do you like people who

1:10:24

are like Chris professionals? Do you like people who

1:10:26

are bringing a little bit of crazy to the

1:10:28

game? How does living in

1:10:30

the ping pong ball world of Marvel

1:10:32

impact you when you come to

1:10:34

something smaller like this? What experience are you looking for?

1:10:37

I spent most of my time in something smaller like

1:10:39

this, and then did a little kind

1:10:41

of beautiful night, what's that called?

1:10:43

Moonlighting in the kind of superhero world.

1:10:48

Every project wants its own form of

1:10:50

kind of crazy. You want the people

1:10:52

who can eventually turn it off when

1:10:54

it's time. That

1:10:57

one, this is a really fast moving

1:10:59

witty family movie that feels

1:11:01

a little Chris Gesty at times. So I

1:11:03

felt really lucky to kind of draft on

1:11:05

her fast wit. Franita,

1:11:08

when you hear stories

1:11:10

of interesting crimes like this being

1:11:13

turned into movies, do you think it is your

1:11:15

obligation as the dean of the US law school

1:11:17

to start just like a little

1:11:19

shop where you guys sell movie premises

1:11:22

to actors and producers? I

1:11:25

feel like my obligation is to try to

1:11:27

get my students internships and externships in these

1:11:29

types of movies. That's

1:11:31

my obligation. And also, I think the interns

1:11:34

might have made more than the crew. There

1:11:36

you have it. Since Clark and I are new

1:11:38

best friends, you have to edit in that

1:11:41

Chris Evans is my favorite Chris. Oh,

1:11:43

okay. But

1:11:45

Clark, you've also been doing some writing. Yes,

1:11:49

I worked as a writer a bit. I wrote a movie

1:11:51

years ago called What Lies Beneath. I

1:11:54

wrote and directed a couple of films and recently I had

1:11:57

nowhere to put A, my rage

1:11:59

at the political. scene and be

1:12:01

how many hours I've

1:12:03

spent watching news channels.

1:12:06

So I've been writing my first play at

1:12:08

this advanced stage. It's called

1:12:10

Smear and it's about a political operative. Clearly

1:12:13

it's watching a lot of news but like what

1:12:15

moved you to want to sort of like explore

1:12:17

and work around within the political worlds? Well

1:12:20

I always wanted to write a play. It's what I

1:12:22

started out doing and I kind of started really writing

1:12:24

in earnest here in town and really works as a

1:12:27

screenwriter a lot and it

1:12:30

just felt like one of those things like good lord I

1:12:32

better hurry up if I'm gonna do that and there

1:12:35

was an idea I had about somebody who's

1:12:37

really jaded part of

1:12:39

the system a system that's so

1:12:41

cynical and his sense this guy's

1:12:43

been canceled essentially he shows

1:12:46

up on election eve when a shoo-in

1:12:50

Democratic incumbent on the eve

1:12:52

of the election seems to have shown up

1:12:55

in a blurry cell phone video on

1:12:57

TikTok naked in a hotel hot tub

1:12:59

with an underage girl and

1:13:01

nothing is what it seems and it's just

1:13:03

pulling the thread of a giant conspiracy that

1:13:06

may or may not mean the end of

1:13:08

democracy. Well I mean

1:13:10

sounds very realistic. We

1:13:13

were actually talking about this in the green room that you

1:13:15

were saying a lot of the difficulty

1:13:17

with democracy right now is us not being

1:13:19

able to deal with social

1:13:21

media like how

1:13:23

do you think that impacts the 24-hour news cycle

1:13:26

people can't pay attention long enough to

1:13:28

really appreciate the severity of different controversies.

1:13:30

Yeah. Right so even this story it

1:13:32

will be a 24-hour news story maybe

1:13:34

maybe 48 hours right and before we

1:13:36

move on to the next thing because we

1:13:38

have a constant need for new information that

1:13:40

wasn't there before. I mean we lived in

1:13:42

a time before I dated myself it was

1:13:45

like what a handful of stations and

1:13:47

then and now you I mean

1:13:49

you can literally find a news station that

1:13:51

caters to whatever your political preference is.

1:13:53

There's no pushback. Yes and one that

1:13:55

will radicalize your parents in some direction

1:13:58

that you never wanted to happen. Did

1:14:01

it give you a greater sense of strength to

1:14:04

take control of a narrative about something

1:14:06

like that happening? Like, because I think

1:14:08

it makes us all feel really scared

1:14:10

to know that there is this infinite

1:14:13

possibility for things to be faked and

1:14:15

manufactured and all of that. Having

1:14:17

a narrative that's our own. So during the strike, I got a call

1:14:20

saying, listen, this is very last minute, but we

1:14:22

need somebody for the union to go to testify

1:14:25

in front of Congress. Yeah. And

1:14:27

I was like, okay, how can I help? And they're like, no, you,

1:14:29

it would be you. And

1:14:31

it was about AI. And there was a

1:14:33

piece of legislation called the Data Privacy Act. And

1:14:35

they briefed me on the plane. I felt so

1:14:37

cool and so scared. And

1:14:39

I went in front of a congressional

1:14:41

committee about this particular bill, which the

1:14:44

purpose of which is that we one would

1:14:46

own, and this is citizens, so much of

1:14:49

our voice data, our voice,

1:14:51

our fingerprints, all that stuff is out there

1:14:53

now. And the idea being

1:14:55

that unless you can own it. Commercial use

1:14:58

of likeness. This

1:15:00

is a back doorway, exactly right, to

1:15:02

get all the things that the companies either

1:15:04

were or weren't going to give us at

1:15:06

that point. And they said, listen, here's a

1:15:08

commercial that Tom Hanks did for some rando

1:15:10

insurance company, except Tom Hanks didn't do it.

1:15:13

And this certainly had the attention of

1:15:15

the Congress people, because they

1:15:18

were very aware that a deep fake thing could happen

1:15:20

to them at any moment. And to go to

1:15:22

what you said, it doesn't have to

1:15:24

be true. It doesn't even have to

1:15:26

be very true. They're getting very, very

1:15:28

believable. And by the time it's been

1:15:30

pulled off and disproven, it's like

1:15:32

the retraction on page six. It

1:15:34

will have already been through the two news cycles, and you will

1:15:37

never be able to reach 75% of

1:15:39

the people who ingested that. Yeah.

1:15:41

I mean, it's so scary, and it's hard not to

1:15:44

feel powerless. You know? So

1:15:46

that's grim. So

1:15:49

crazy. When people talk about creatively

1:15:51

generated stuff from chat GPT,

1:15:54

just realizing it's just theft. It is

1:15:56

just a machine, broad scale stealing from

1:15:58

a bunch of people. people and we

1:16:00

act as though it's impossible to figure out where I

1:16:02

came from. A couple of months ago I did stand

1:16:05

up for the Democratic House members and I

1:16:07

had to just be around them while they

1:16:10

were doing their messaging meetings and I went

1:16:12

to the meeting on AI and there came

1:16:14

this horrifying moment when an amazing

1:16:17

hard-working member raised her hand and asked the

1:16:19

head of technology from the White House, so

1:16:22

who regulates this? Is this Justice Department?

1:16:24

Do we create a new department? Every

1:16:27

department do this themselves and the lady from

1:16:29

the White House was like, you guys have to

1:16:31

figure that out. And just like the

1:16:33

chill throughout that room of people

1:16:36

having a huge task that they

1:16:39

don't know how to deal with. Let me, I

1:16:41

need to push back a little bit on the

1:16:43

fear though. So this is technology that can be

1:16:45

abused. Hope is coming in a pink bleeder

1:16:47

ladies and gentlemen. But there's also a lot

1:16:49

of opportunity here. So one thing we're

1:16:52

doing at the law school is we're trying to teach

1:16:54

our students how to use this technology responsibly and ethically.

1:16:56

So it is a tool that you use. It is

1:16:59

not a replacement. You do not ask chat GPT to

1:17:01

write your brief. But if you are

1:17:04

working on your outline and you need help filling in

1:17:06

your outline and then you go from there, okay. You

1:17:09

don't want to use the technology in a way

1:17:12

where you're representing that this is your work when

1:17:14

it's something you stole off the internet. But to

1:17:16

the extent that it helps you to brainstorm through

1:17:18

ideas or even more importantly, AI

1:17:22

can help us democratize the delivery

1:17:24

of legal services. If

1:17:26

a poor person should not have to hire a

1:17:28

lawyer to fight a ticket, right? If

1:17:30

chat GPT can help with that or if there's

1:17:32

some way of using AI to deal

1:17:34

with sorting through various rules and regulations

1:17:37

to help someone understand the law, that

1:17:39

is a good thing. It's

1:17:41

just that we see something new and we

1:17:43

get scared because we're used to people abusing

1:17:45

it and we have to, it goes back

1:17:47

to norms. We have to train ourselves to

1:17:49

understand that this is something that assists us.

1:17:51

It's not a replacement. Okay. But

1:17:53

I'm not pushing back on your hope. I don't want to be the

1:17:56

hope pusher backer on her. This

1:18:00

goes to my distortions of late-stage capitalism thing

1:18:02

and maybe I'm just gonna become

1:18:05

Marxist right here now but the... Get

1:18:07

a Domian. Where's a Domian? A

1:18:10

Domian is a Marxism doula. That's

1:18:13

what I've been looking for. Look at

1:18:16

Boeing, okay? Boeing starts to change who's

1:18:18

watching the safety stuff to drive down

1:18:20

the cost to look better for their

1:18:22

stock price and all of a sudden

1:18:24

the doors are flying off and you

1:18:26

see that in every business in this

1:18:28

country. So you've got this incredibly powerful

1:18:31

tool that seems designed to

1:18:33

eliminate members of the workforce.

1:18:35

It's hard to feel safe. Are you telling me that

1:18:38

America's biggest corporations being incapable of looking more than three

1:18:40

months in the future is a bad thing? No. Okay,

1:18:43

you're right. I think that

1:18:45

you... Proven... If we can prove

1:18:47

that AI is just supposed to be a tool, we show

1:18:50

how people are indispensable, right?

1:18:52

It is supposed to assist people, not replace people. No,

1:18:54

this is always my line when people are like, aren't

1:18:56

you scared about it taking your job as a writer?

1:18:58

It's like it will take the shitty jobs. AI can

1:19:01

100% write an award show. It can 100% write all

1:19:03

of the

1:19:06

tosses for an award show but it

1:19:08

can't make something good. That was

1:19:10

the main thing I got caught

1:19:13

up short by a conservative member of

1:19:15

that congressional meeting.

1:19:18

He said, so if it can make

1:19:20

better stuff than what you guys are

1:19:22

making, shouldn't

1:19:25

it? Shouldn't it be able to? If they can do

1:19:27

that better and cheaper? And I thought, well, that's a

1:19:29

really good question because I don't know if they can

1:19:31

make it better. I suspect they can't, but what I'm

1:19:33

really afraid of is the idea that they

1:19:35

turn it over and it creates this kind

1:19:37

of soulless facsimile and we don't really see

1:19:39

it happening until we're soulless too. But also,

1:19:42

shouldn't we be better at seeing the soulless

1:19:44

facsimiles? And honestly, I don't know that the

1:19:46

execs in charge necessarily now would distinguish between

1:19:48

it, but I think our viewing audiences are

1:19:50

going to understand what crap that

1:19:52

looks like, all the crap I've ever seen

1:19:55

before, and something that looks new and interesting looks

1:19:57

like. Which brings me to this question, which is

1:19:59

entirely... unpolitical and entirely about

1:20:01

your creative process as like an

1:20:03

actor who is also a writer. Like

1:20:06

what are your worst habits and what are your best habits that

1:20:08

you bring to the process of writing as an actor? Like

1:20:11

does that make sense to you as a question? 100% I luckily

1:20:13

I know what's really fun to say. Yes.

1:20:16

I know when it's fun to have subtext.

1:20:18

I know from being inside stories that

1:20:20

stuff. Yes. But I

1:20:23

guess I'm lucky because the

1:20:25

process of writing is so insanely isolated

1:20:27

and lonely. Yes. And luckily

1:20:29

I can sometimes go operate in a

1:20:31

more kind of social environment as

1:20:34

an actor. Yes. I mean it's good to

1:20:36

get that energy back but then you have

1:20:38

to go be sad and alone because that's

1:20:40

the only place creativity happens. Sad. But

1:20:43

to unsad us would you like to play a

1:20:45

game? Yes please. Okay.

1:20:48

You also have to play. She's

1:20:50

a reputable one. She didn't

1:20:53

even get a choice.

1:20:55

She doesn't have a choice. She's here. She's

1:20:57

essentially my co-host

1:20:59

at this point in time. Alright. Clark is

1:21:01

Hollywood in 2024 and I think we'd

1:21:06

be beautiful fools to think that AI won't be

1:21:08

playing a part in TV and film going forward.

1:21:10

And we all know that you've had a full

1:21:12

body scan because of all of the superhero-y things.

1:21:16

Which is why after, sorry, which is why we're

1:21:18

playing a game that's called role

1:21:20

of an after-lifetime. We're going to present you

1:21:23

with things after you die.

1:21:25

Do you provide

1:21:27

consent for your likeness to be used

1:21:29

in this work? Okay.

1:21:36

The newer adventures of even older Christine.

1:21:38

You play a cyborg version of your

1:21:40

character Richard who has had his consciousness

1:21:42

uploaded to a synthetic humanoid shell which

1:21:45

is still matching with his ex-wife Julia

1:21:47

Louis Dreyfuss will play Christine because that

1:21:49

woman does not age. Do

1:21:52

you consent to doing that project? Thousand percent

1:21:54

immediately. Alright. It's

1:21:56

like Blade Runner with ex-wives. Yes. No

1:22:00

one respects New Adventures of Old Christine enough.

1:22:02

It's like really good. Ladies in airports do.

1:22:04

Ah. Um, I

1:22:07

mean, one of our great Wanda Sykes

1:22:09

vehicles, of many. Phil,

1:22:12

a gripping drama about the daily life of your

1:22:15

character from Marvel agent

1:22:17

Coulson as he discovers he has Stiff

1:22:19

Person Syndrome, that thing that Celine Dion

1:22:21

has. He played entirely

1:22:23

realistically, but somehow is nominated for

1:22:25

and wins Best Television musical comedy

1:22:27

at the Golden Globes. You

1:22:30

know, I'd be tempted to go with it,

1:22:32

but I'm really worried about the porn title

1:22:34

that Stiff Person Syndrome becomes. OK, does it

1:22:36

change it if you know that Celine Dion

1:22:38

comes on as herself for the last five

1:22:40

minutes of it 90s TV movie style?

1:22:42

My heart will go on. OK. The

1:22:45

Human Sting 2, an HBO

1:22:47

adaptation for TV that is

1:22:49

basically a muppet baby's version

1:22:51

of the 2003 Robert Benton

1:22:54

drama starring Anthony

1:22:56

Hopkins and Nicole Kidman based

1:22:58

on the Philip Roth novel. You return as

1:23:00

Nelson Primus, and it's not entirely clear why. Will

1:23:02

you do the Human Sting 2? No,

1:23:05

it's problematic in that Anthony Hopkins is playing

1:23:07

a biracial person, and I think we're specialized

1:23:10

in the past. That's fair. Like

1:23:12

so many things related to Philip Roth, it

1:23:14

was interesting then. 29

1:23:18

dresses. You

1:23:20

portray the 29th dress in

1:23:23

the third movie in the 27 dresses

1:23:25

universe reboot, but your AI avatar is given

1:23:27

a lot more creative control than you'd expect.

1:23:30

So that's something. Kathryn Heigl will star.

1:23:34

And she gets a bad rap.

1:23:36

Mean Girls, oh really? Did you work

1:23:38

with her? What? Oh, I just

1:23:40

think she gets a bad rap. I

1:23:43

hear she's very nice. I didn't like that

1:23:45

movie where she was a news reporter in Sacramento. 27

1:23:49

dresses are good though. She's awesome in

1:23:51

shoes though. Hey,

1:23:56

Franita, the three of us need to get together and

1:23:58

put together a soap seater alone. Okay, this

1:24:01

town is hungry for social feed rules. Are

1:24:04

you in? In. Okay,

1:24:07

Mean Girls 7, now their dads, as

1:24:09

Craig Heron, a red-headed

1:24:11

stepdad who must survive from the animalistic

1:24:13

social environment created by other dads at

1:24:15

his local crossfit. The

1:24:18

fur will fly. Yes, you'll be topless a

1:24:20

lot. You'll be topless a lot. Okay, I'm

1:24:22

out. Okay. All

1:24:24

right, Donald Trump is a sympathetic presidential

1:24:27

biopic president

1:24:30

DJ about an alternative history where

1:24:33

Donald Trump is both president and

1:24:35

a Skrillex level concert DJ, written

1:24:38

by Tony Kushner and Doris Kearns Goodwin,

1:24:40

but through chat GPT. Is

1:24:43

he gonna do the dance that looks pornographic?

1:24:45

Yes. I bet you. Okay.

1:24:48

And finally. The Skrillex is cultural

1:24:50

misappropriation. Ha ha ha ha ha.

1:24:54

And finally, will you play normal in

1:24:57

Garfield 5? Garfield gets

1:24:59

hysterical in which Nurmo is a loquacious

1:25:02

gay writer and comedian trying desperately to

1:25:04

finish the script for Garfield 6 clawing

1:25:07

my way to the top. It's very

1:25:09

Charlie Kaufman and meta. Wait, is this a

1:25:11

buddy picture with us? I think so. Now

1:25:13

I'm in! I guess I'm from Garfield. Please.

1:25:15

All right. Well, that's

1:25:18

lovely. You seem committed to most things. I mean.

1:25:20

I don't turn down a lot. This is the life of a

1:25:22

character. What do we

1:25:24

need to do to make this a functional holographic

1:25:27

will? What do we need to do to make

1:25:29

this legally enforceable after this fucking fact? Oh, I'm

1:25:31

gonna get scanned again, aren't I? The

1:25:33

only reason he's saying yes is because he'll be dead. Ha

1:25:36

ha ha ha. I mean, making

1:25:39

money passively is always a good idea. Thank

1:25:41

you so much, Clark. Thank you so much,

1:25:43

Gene Tolson. Thank you. Thank you.

1:25:46

More fun. Salah hits theaters June 21st. And

1:25:49

everybody, I haven't watched it yet, but everybody says

1:25:51

it's really, really great. It's really good, really good.

1:25:53

All right. So when we're back, it's the Rant

1:25:55

Whale. Good

1:26:05

news everyone, this is the last episode of

1:26:07

Love and Relieve It without your fearless leader

1:26:10

John Lovett. He's returned from the island just

1:26:12

in time to wing his way to another

1:26:14

faraway outland, North Carolina. That's

1:26:16

right, Lovett makes his grand return with three

1:26:18

shows next week. Charlotte on June

1:26:21

19th, Asheville on June 20th, and a second

1:26:23

show in Asheville on June 21st. Please

1:26:26

get your tickets now as they are flying off the

1:26:28

shelves. If you don't happen to be in Charlotte or

1:26:30

Asheville this week, big mistake.

1:26:33

Huge. Luckily, you will

1:26:35

still get to hear every single second of

1:26:37

all three shows wherever you get your podcasts.

1:26:40

Our Charlotte show will be released Friday, June 21st. The

1:26:43

first Asheville show will be on Sunday, June 23rd. The

1:26:46

second Asheville show comes out Tuesday, June 25th instead

1:26:48

of our usual What a Week Day. After

1:26:51

that, you can find our boy in Boston for

1:26:53

a 10.30 p.m. show on Friday, June 28th. Ooh,

1:26:56

love it, after dark. That

1:26:58

episode will come out on Saturday, June 29th,

1:27:00

but please be patient with us. It

1:27:03

starts late and Lovett will have literally been on a

1:27:05

tropical island for six weeks. Who knows where his head

1:27:07

is at? Will he ever eat

1:27:09

coconut again? I don't know. It's

1:27:12

like bringing a capybara into a comedy

1:27:14

club. Sure, it'll probably be fine, but

1:27:16

who knows how it'll use a microphone? Get

1:27:19

your tickets and find out. East Coast, we'll

1:27:21

see you soon. Welcome

1:27:32

back, ladies and gentlemen. We

1:27:36

got Clark Gregg. We got Dean Perdita

1:27:38

Tolson. We got James Adomian. Guy,

1:27:41

you called me in earlier when you brought up,

1:27:43

you said I was the doula of communism. And ironically,

1:27:45

of course, when you wanted me to come talk

1:27:47

about communism, the doors of the studio were locked. Why

1:27:52

didn't you beat them down with the rest of the proletariat?

1:27:55

I do have a button for you though, which

1:27:57

is from each. This

1:28:00

is how the communist solution to

1:28:02

AI from each according to his

1:28:04

memes. One, one, zero,

1:28:06

zero, one, one, zero, zero, zero

1:28:08

each according to his. Thank

1:28:13

you very much folks. I'll be here. Frankly,

1:28:16

it feels like a lot for a button. Um,

1:28:19

all right. Well, welcome back. It's

1:28:21

time for the rant wheel. Yeah.

1:28:38

Be posting. Is it on you to rent? It is

1:28:40

on me to rent. There are so many things

1:28:42

I hate. Okay. Um, okay. So,

1:28:44

uh, so I'll be

1:28:46

thematic, right? Voter suppression, right? Voter suppression is

1:28:48

as though to do union, but we have

1:28:51

to do better. This was like, what

1:28:53

we, we're almost 200 and some odd years into

1:28:55

this thing. Um, we have to get to a

1:28:57

place where we allow more people to vote. It

1:28:59

should not be so hard to vote. Even in

1:29:01

California where it's easier to vote relative to other

1:29:03

places. I sit there with my eight page ballot,

1:29:05

pulling my hair out, trying to figure out

1:29:07

these different offices and who these people are,

1:29:10

right? It's just, there has to be a better

1:29:12

way to do it in this country. And we

1:29:14

don't spend enough time trying to figure out solutions

1:29:16

because we are spending too much time trying to

1:29:19

just win. And we justify it by saying that

1:29:21

the, you know, the, the ends justify

1:29:23

the means. Um, and as long as we have

1:29:25

that mindset, then we will never get ahead as

1:29:27

a country. We have to stop assuming that America

1:29:29

will always be the number one country in the world,

1:29:31

the democracy, we have to fight for it. We have

1:29:33

to be better towards each other. We have to be

1:29:35

better as a collective and not just individuals. That's

1:29:39

a good brand. All

1:29:44

right, back to the rear wheel. Right. No

1:29:47

one else is going to save democracy with their rant.

1:29:50

Thanks for raising the bar. Mr.

1:29:55

Greg. Oh, what do I want

1:29:57

to rant about? Okay. What's

1:29:59

up? with these new Republicans. The

1:30:02

old ones I understood, I grew up

1:30:05

with them. They hated communism and

1:30:07

KGB agents. Everybody

1:30:10

wants to take a vacation with

1:30:12

Vladimir Putin from that party.

1:30:14

I don't understand. They loved a good war.

1:30:16

They were big fans of a good war.

1:30:18

We have a perfectly good war against some

1:30:20

communists and all they want to do is

1:30:22

stop funding it. I don't really understand

1:30:24

that. The other thing is, I'm trying to keep

1:30:27

track of the reproductive freedom stuff, but let me

1:30:29

get this straight. You don't want

1:30:31

there to be abortions, but you also don't want

1:30:33

there to be birth control. Where

1:30:36

in the birth process do you want to

1:30:38

start murdering people or is it later once

1:30:40

they get into like preschool? I just I

1:30:43

find the whole thing completely confusing and IVF.

1:30:45

That's not okay. I

1:30:47

don't I'm completely confused by them. I was

1:30:49

much more comfortable with the like predictable lockjaw

1:30:51

William F. Buckley's I grew up with. I

1:30:54

mean they at least had good country clubs. You

1:30:57

can't even count on that

1:30:59

anymore. All right, Clark

1:31:02

Gregg, singing it to those

1:31:04

new Republicans. Let's go back to

1:31:06

the rant wheel. Ojomian,

1:31:18

it's on you. I'm spending a

1:31:20

lot of time wasting time on

1:31:22

bad dumb video games on my

1:31:24

mobile phone. I play

1:31:26

I'm playing the ones where there's an

1:31:28

army of dudes and they have a

1:31:31

number floating above their head and you

1:31:33

can walk around and anything under your

1:31:35

number you can fuck up. So you're

1:31:38

you say 15 and then you see you see

1:31:41

like a bunch of like salamanders and armor and

1:31:43

it says seven times two and you're like we

1:31:45

can fucking get it. And

1:31:47

then a sea monster rises and and

1:31:50

it says the square root of 400 and you're

1:31:52

like uh high level

1:31:54

calculus on the field of battle and then

1:31:56

you lose but they don't give you the

1:31:58

dignity of just wasting your time. time and

1:32:00

playing the game again. They make you sit

1:32:02

through an ad for an even dumber game.

1:32:05

And you can't close it because if you

1:32:07

close the X, you download it. And I

1:32:10

keep getting the ad for the dumb king

1:32:12

who's like, there's fire and

1:32:14

water. Help! How

1:32:16

did he become king of this

1:32:18

monarchy? I'm

1:32:21

on level 1200 of the dumb king game.

1:32:26

Also, are you playing a math learning game? I started

1:32:29

dumb and it got dumb. Alright,

1:32:33

let's go to the rant wheel. I wonder who it will

1:32:35

be. Hi,

1:32:46

for what I'm shocked that it is me. Okay,

1:32:50

you can't release your show and say

1:32:52

that it's a limited series and then

1:32:55

have your show do well and say,

1:32:57

oops, no, it's going to be a

1:32:59

regular series because you already killed off

1:33:01

your most interesting character, Shogun. And oops,

1:33:03

I'm sorry, spoilers, but also Shogun forced

1:33:05

me to do it. It's an amazing

1:33:07

show and I love it, but it

1:33:09

will never be as good again because

1:33:12

they told a complete story, kind of.

1:33:14

James, did you watch all of Shogun?

1:33:16

The last episode is not an ending.

1:33:18

The last episode is the main character

1:33:20

saying, I dreamed about a

1:33:22

battle. And it's like, oh, well,

1:33:25

if you knew that your story wasn't done,

1:33:27

you should have just given them more money

1:33:29

to make a good show or said that

1:33:31

they would be a second season. This is

1:33:33

exactly what Clark was talking about. Those corporations

1:33:35

are destroying our perfectly good 1980s,

1:33:39

somewhat orientalist novels that

1:33:42

new showrunners have turned into

1:33:44

more progressive and interesting television.

1:33:46

Shogun is really good, but

1:33:48

it's over. The lady's dead.

1:33:53

Guys, have you watched Shogun

1:33:55

yet? No, I just ruined it for you, but also

1:33:57

it's real good. I won't remember. We'll

1:34:02

always have the Milton Bradley games.

1:34:06

Do you ever get sad that you

1:34:08

don't get to be in like a

1:34:10

1980s broadcast television TV movie where people

1:34:12

just like talk in rooms for four

1:34:15

hours? An M.O.W.? Yes. An

1:34:17

M.O.W.? No, but I'm talking mini-series. I'm

1:34:20

talking about eight hours of

1:34:22

Herman Wook. The Thornbirds. North

1:34:25

and South. I like Thornbirds. Yes,

1:34:27

yes, yes. Did you ever see Napoleon

1:34:30

and Josephine? No, who was in it?

1:34:33

Oh my God. Armand De Santé as Napoleon.

1:34:35

Wonderful. Perfect. Wonderful.

1:34:38

In English the way it needs to be. Probably made for

1:34:40

a dollar and a half. Probably with sweeping battle scenes with

1:34:42

nine people in them. That's entertainment.

1:34:44

And Mr. Papadopoulos. That was seeing people

1:34:46

from network broadcast shows on like a

1:34:48

movie of the week or a mini-series.

1:34:55

How am I supposed to suspend my belief? This

1:34:58

is Webster's

1:35:00

dad. All right. Okay.

1:35:03

I'm sorry I did that. What is your

1:35:05

favorite movie? I did it. What

1:35:07

did you do? A Woman Named Jackie.

1:35:10

Oh fuck. Bro Madowney as

1:35:12

our first lady. That's

1:35:14

fucking glorious. Fantastic.

1:35:17

Was that a movie of the week or was that a

1:35:19

mini-series? Because I remember that being iconic. It was more than

1:35:21

one episode I believe. Who

1:35:23

did you play? Penny O'Donnell, the President's Chief of Staff

1:35:25

who went out with him in Maryland. Oh

1:35:28

my God. That's amazing. That's so

1:35:30

much fun. Yes. Isn't

1:35:33

it gorgeous to have a career? That's not

1:35:35

good. I thought you were safe to be old. But

1:35:37

I'll take either one. I mean six and one half

1:35:39

dozen the other. All

1:35:42

right you guys. Because we need it. Because we

1:35:44

always need it. We have to

1:35:46

go out on a high note. Hi

1:35:48

Love It. This is Nicole from New

1:35:50

York. I'm calling because this

1:35:53

week I made my last student

1:35:56

loan payment hopefully ever. And

1:35:58

at the end of the month I will apply. for public

1:36:00

service loan forgiveness. I'm

1:36:02

just so grateful for all of the work

1:36:04

that Biden administration has done to improve the

1:36:06

program. And after 18 years

1:36:09

of carrying undergrad and graduate student

1:36:11

loans, I'm

1:36:13

just so glad to be done with

1:36:16

them. And as a public servant, it just means so

1:36:18

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1:36:20

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