0:00

People think the new fresh fragrances from

0:02

Glade are fresher than fresh, like artist

0:04

Angela. I was

0:06

going through my parents'

0:09

things and Quacker's the

0:11

Beanie Baby tumbled out.

0:33

Do we think that's worth something in the

0:35

10 to 15 grand range? Oh, it is

0:37

worth. That's what they've always said. They always

0:39

promise us. They'll send their kid to college,

0:41

here's Quacker's. That was the first

0:43

time the economy lied to our generation. I

0:46

remember my youngest brother was like, wow, I'm rich. And it

0:48

was like, no, you're nine. And this is what

0:50

capitalism is. They got you. No, it was

0:52

the McDonald's Monopoly game for toddlers. Oh,

1:05

hi, I'm Louis Vertell from Crooked Zone Keep It

1:07

in for John Lovett this week. I'm here with

1:10

producer Kendra, producer Chris, and head writer Hallie. Guys,

1:12

I was all concerned about what to wear for

1:14

this. And then I watched Lovett on this podcast.

1:16

He is wearing like a rankled sweatshirt. He looks

1:18

like a basketball player at a strip club. It's

1:21

okay. I dress for us all. Yes,

1:23

thank you. He will never care. Once you see

1:26

how he dresses in real life, you're like, oh, well, I'm

1:28

not doing that. I'm doing a little bit better. Was it

1:30

our second week of work when he wore swim trunks? Like

1:33

he was like, that's clearly a men's bathing

1:35

suit. You're wearing your shorts. And we're all

1:37

supposed to pretend that it's regular clothing. Swim

1:39

shorts. Is he Billy Madison? I

1:42

mean, I mean, yeah, a little

1:44

bit. Yeah. He looks like he just got done

1:46

with the pickup game. And we know

1:48

he did. A real shock wasn't there. Yeah.

1:50

No. Coming from the halls of

1:52

like Shondaland, it was a real shock

1:54

to arrive here. Oh, is she a

1:56

wardrobe obsessed person? People dress. Oh,

1:58

yeah. At least when I was... people dressed at

2:01

the shondaland offices. Wow. She

2:03

has a master class that I really enjoy. You

2:05

can learn a lot from her, and I'm afraid of her.

2:07

Yep. Okay, let's

2:10

get right into it. What a weekday. Which

2:13

is something I feel like they would say on like Barney and Friends. According

2:16

to the Hill's average of 690 polls released this week,

2:20

Biden is performing better than at any point in the 2024 race so

2:22

far. Trump now only has a

2:24

0.1% lead. I

2:27

don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but it's looking like Biden has

2:29

a real shot at only losing by a little. Nothing

2:33

says the Democratic Party more than, guys, great news,

2:35

we are doing less worse. Five-eighths

2:38

full speed ahead. Are

2:41

you guys filled with hope, optimism? What's happening over there? Oh,

2:43

we and I were just talking about this. I

2:46

almost feel like it's like, well, the

2:48

level of, it's almost like, who will

2:50

not vote? It's just like, well,

2:53

fewer of their people not vote than ours, in a

2:55

sense. Right. If people are not motivated,

2:57

it's almost like, I

2:59

don't know, it's like a war of attrition. Yeah, it's competitive

3:02

apathy. Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think both

3:04

sides have the capability to win that war. Yeah.

3:06

What do you think? I

3:09

actually, unfortunately, ruthlessly believe Biden will win. Oh.

3:13

Well, we need hope. We need the energy. That's great. Yeah,

3:15

we need the energy. No, you can hear in my

3:17

Germanic voice that I should not be the voice of

3:19

optimism on the show. Not just like that. No. Yeah,

3:22

you're coming with optimism. It's like, uh-oh. No. I

3:24

belong in the band's script work, moaning about robots

3:26

in the Autobot. I should not be talking about

3:28

the hope of America. Speaking

3:30

of Donald Trump's campaign, the man shouted out one

3:32

of his idols at a campaign rally over the

3:34

weekend. Silence of the Lamb.

3:36

Has anyone ever seen a Silence of the Lamb? The

3:40

late great Hannibal Lecter is

3:42

a wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a

3:44

friend for dinner. Okay, this makes

3:47

no sense because Hannibal Lecter is not dead. If

3:50

Hannibal is dead, then who was that nice doctor I shared a meal with

3:52

last night? The liver was excellent. Okay,

3:56

unfortunately, I found this part of his speech relatable

3:58

as sometimes on TV. I just run out of

4:00

things to talk about and bring up movies I've

4:02

seen. He has all

4:04

those people there and of course no

4:06

actual information on any issues. So I'm

4:08

surprised he doesn't resort to this tactic

4:10

more often. There's a crisis at the border and

4:12

also at A24, Bo was afraid did nothing for

4:15

me. I

4:17

think one of the funny things about him

4:19

is his weird pseudo-connections to pop culture. Once upon

4:22

a time he was of course way more

4:24

obsessed with hanging out with celebrities but he's also

4:26

seen maybe four movies in his life and

4:28

he occasionally will bring those up. Well

4:30

we were saying like his taste

4:32

in movies very much solidified when he

4:35

became famous and that you see that with a lot

4:37

of famous people where you just sort of like atrophy

4:39

at that point where you become famous and you never

4:41

move past that point. And it really seems like his

4:43

takes and all of his pop culture just stopped in

4:45

1994. This reminds me

4:47

of when Britney Spears was a judge

4:49

on X Factor, when she

4:51

was a musical judge for a very brief moment.

4:54

There was some artist and of course Britney Spears

4:56

is not going to be very critical. She's a

4:58

bubbly Paula Abdul type. She said about somebody, oh

5:01

you kind of remind me of Lauren Hill which I think

5:03

was the last time she was paying attention to music. That

5:06

sounds alright. And she's arguably the most miseducated

5:08

person we know. Hey and you've got

5:10

to go out on an album. That's

5:12

not a terrible one to go out on. I think

5:14

several of us could have just cashed in at that

5:17

moment. You're like to Zion's the last moment we have.

5:20

Beautiful. Did Trump ever bring up his own cameo

5:22

in Home Alone 2? Because everyone else does. He should. That

5:24

would be smart. Did he ever bring it up? No. No.

5:29

Because people are like, oh yeah I like that movie. I'll vote for it. Why

5:31

Hot Take? I

5:34

think the plans that Kevin draws up

5:36

in it are much better and more

5:38

realistic. Even though the

5:40

house is not realistic because it's filled with like abysses.

5:44

Like oops you fell in three stories. Makes

5:46

no sense. You still think you want

5:49

to ask questions about the family's financial situation. It's like

5:51

so everyone in your family is rich because the family

5:53

is staying in Paris while their house is

5:55

redone. Right. And their house would be apparently

5:57

completely gutted. Yeah. Like completely

5:59

gutted. point where there's it's just a big hollowed

6:02

out hall. It makes no sense. Yeah, it's

6:04

very confusing. Some sort of shady business. Yeah.

6:06

I assume the risk with him bringing up

6:08

that movie is that all the actors in

6:10

it probably hate him. So maybe it's

6:12

a press cycle he's afraid of. I don't know.

6:15

Daniel Radcliffe to J.K. Rowling situation. Oh yeah. You

6:17

don't want to get Brenda Fricker mad. Trump

6:20

then tried to connect the fictional cannibal to

6:22

his recent talking point migrant crime.

6:25

But Hannibal Lecter, congratulations.

6:27

The late great Hannibal Lecter. We have

6:29

people that are being released into our

6:32

country that we don't want in our

6:34

country. I've got bad news

6:36

Trump. I saw Silence of the Lambs. That

6:38

bitch is from Baltimore. Hannibal Lecter didn't

6:41

sneak across the border. He

6:43

got a yearly pass to the Incredible Walters Art

6:45

Museum. What does he think

6:47

Hannibal Lecter is? I think he

6:49

thinks that he met Hannibal Lecter at a party

6:51

in 1990. He's like at a luncheon? He

6:54

mentioned Hannibal Lecter enough that he's convinced himself. It's like

6:56

yeah I met him. I know that guy. He died

6:58

though. What a great person he

7:01

was. The late great is so

7:03

interesting. He's sane. Did

7:06

he meet a Hannibal at a party?

7:08

For sure. Did he

7:10

know that? Did he know that?

7:12

We don't know by that part. He met like a what do you

7:14

call it? The greatest game? The greatest hunt? I

7:17

feel I could see him being at a party

7:19

where something like that was being discussed and he

7:21

has just decided that that person

7:23

is Hannibal Lecter. Right. It's

7:26

a lot of conflating going on in his head though

7:28

because you know Anthony Hopkins isn't a fan of him

7:30

so I don't know what is. The familiarity is

7:32

very strange there. I'm so sorry to unpack this

7:34

man's psychosy. No, no, no. The veil between reality

7:38

and fiction to him is very porous and

7:40

I think this is just where we're

7:42

at with it. Frankly it's nice to be

7:44

having a conversation about Hannibal that's not taking place on

7:46

Tumblr. Ding. Yes. Reddit,

7:49

etc. Also let me get

7:51

this straight. Trump's issue with Hannibal is not him being a cannibal but

7:53

the fact that he is Lithuanian? What

7:55

is happening here? Interestingly, this

7:57

is not the only movie Trump returns to

7:59

again and again. Here's him praising two of

8:01

his absolute favorites. Let's get down with

8:03

the wind. Can we get like on with the wind back? Sunset

8:09

Boulevard First of

8:11

all, I'm always blown away He's a huge fan of

8:13

gone with the wind because what that requires is you

8:15

to listen to a woman for three hours, right? You're

8:20

telling me he's like Vivian Lee slay Sunset

8:25

Boulevard I believe that because it's like a Hollywood

8:27

obsessed story and like the woman's desperate in that

8:29

one And you get to be like the cool

8:31

guy William Holden detective. That's a little more believe

8:33

eyes. I feel like you'd like that Yeah, yeah

8:35

a dad monkey died. Yeah, right into a chimp

8:38

funeral at some point. Yeah, no, and it won't

8:40

be the last On

8:43

Monday Donald Trump's former fixer Michael Cohen took

8:46

the stand at the former president's hush money

8:48

trial This man always looks perturbed According

8:50

to his testimony Trump heard Stormy Daniels was

8:52

shopping the story of their affair from his

8:54

cronies at the National Enquirer and famously only

8:56

Good men have cronies at the National Enquirer

8:59

National Enquirer if you're not familiar is like

9:02

highlights magazine for senile adults and perverts who

9:04

are once unstarred Forecasting

9:07

the effect of Daniel's story Cohen claimed

9:09

Trump said to me. This is a disaster a total

9:11

disaster Women are going

9:13

to hate me That's right.

9:15

The first ever reason for women to hate

9:18

Trump. Finally his broken perfect record up until

9:20

then He was like shopping in true crime.

9:22

They all loved it What

9:25

do we think of that quote do you think he

9:27

literally thought finally women were going to dislike me He

9:29

had never that thought had never dawned on him before.

9:31

I think honestly, yes I think he thinks of

9:33

himself as a ladies man. It was like women

9:35

love me. Oh my god Finally, they're gonna see

9:37

the truth about not someone who has self-awareness.

9:40

Yeah, I guess I think he thinks I

9:42

think he's like I've had all these beautiful women. I

9:44

think he thinks he's like he's got it

9:46

It's just so interesting because I feel like

9:48

he was almost the first person who taught

9:50

me what the word sexist was like a

9:52

what? On the news would call him sexist

9:54

stuff, but I guess he can just black out that part of

9:57

the conversation I think it's like in order to

9:59

be done Donald Trump. If you're Donald

10:01

Trump, you cannot perceive Donald Trump. He cannot

10:03

be self-aware. Also, you'd be like, oh god,

10:05

sorry, I'm disgusting. Sorry, I'll change right

10:07

now. When I used to be an entertainment journalist,

10:10

I would ask people if they were cool, who

10:12

their least favorite celebrity was. And the reason I

10:14

did this, this was years and years ago, well

10:16

before he was president or whatever, my answer was

10:19

always Donald Trump. Because not only was he the

10:21

face of capitalism in the Western Hemisphere, he was

10:23

insistent, you think he is cool. Yeah, absolutely. He

10:25

couldn't just be the evil rich guy. He was

10:28

like, no, you have to want to be me

10:30

too. It's like Elon Musk, where he wants people

10:32

to think he's funny. It's like, what are you

10:34

talking about? Just be an insane tech billionaire. You're

10:36

not a funny person. And that's, of course, a

10:38

huge part of his thing too. You have to

10:40

think I'm funny. That's part of my invulnerability, my

10:42

charm, et cetera. I was

10:45

thinking it was going to be therapeutic to

10:47

talk about him to this degree. I'm feeling

10:49

worse. I'm feeling worse. We're a little long.

10:51

Yeah, we're sorry. Continue Trump. This is really

10:53

a disaster. Women will hate me. Guys, they

10:55

think it's cool, but this is going to

10:57

be a disaster for the campaign. He's

11:00

so right as one of the boys. I

11:03

hated Trump until I heard him say, grab him

11:06

by the pussy. And then I thought, he's

11:08

cool. The

11:12

boys, a presidency for the boys. I mean, that

11:14

at least, I can hear him saying it, but

11:16

it's still thickening. He'd say the guys. Oh,

11:19

the guys. There's a, at Kimmel, I have

11:21

a co-writer at work, Keaton Patty. Hello. Who

11:24

will not stop doing that version of an

11:26

impression of Trump. You just flip into it

11:28

so easily. But you don't. You don't flip

11:30

into it. I feel like I've heard thousands

11:32

of hours of this man talking. It's in

11:34

there. We are AI for him. Like we

11:36

could all do it Trump. And he always

11:38

slips into the part of his voice. He

11:40

goes, and then he do the this. Like

11:42

it's where it gets a little bit like

11:45

the show dinosaurs, believe dinosaurs. Yeah.

11:47

Yeah. Cohen also testified that

11:49

it was allegedly Melania Trump who

11:51

suggested they describe Trump's infamous Access

11:53

Hollywood video as locker room talk.

11:55

Wow. So succession is based on her. I

11:57

knew it. Melania

12:00

Trump's knowledge of locker room talk is something only

12:02

a woman who grew up near a Russian prison

12:04

locker room could know She

12:07

then retreated to her turret and wept for another 23

12:10

hours. I feel like no one has cried more She's

12:12

like Leslie Gore in the song. It's my party In

12:16

their coverage the New York Times noted This is

12:18

by no means a comment on the prosecution's case

12:20

But there is a member of the public sleeping

12:22

at the back of the courtroom and occasionally letting

12:24

out a snore Okay, if sleep

12:26

apnea is making the New York Times now my fame card

12:28

will be coming up soon I

12:32

think it would be hard not to sleep in

12:34

that courtroom. Oh, I'd be riveted. Are you kidding

12:36

me? I think so. It is about bookkeeping It's

12:38

a very boring topic But when it comes down

12:40

to it and I'm a person who would go

12:42

down to the courthouse and just like it when

12:44

you could Get into things I would just get

12:46

into things I would watch anything happening, but I

12:49

would be riveted It's the it's the first president

12:51

that we have on trial true. I would not be

12:53

asleep You would be bringing a notebook like Harriet the

12:55

spy. Yeah. Well, that is the model for my childhood

12:59

Another corrupt politician news the trial of Senator

13:01

Robert Menendez started this week where the New

13:03

Jersey Democrats stands accused of steering funding and

13:05

military aid to Egypt in

13:07

exchange for bribes as you might remember

13:09

FBI investigators found 13 bars

13:11

of gold bullion and more than $480,000

13:15

in cash in the home. He shares with

13:17

his wife Nadine now throw that gold bullion

13:19

in a pot with some shallots and carrots And maybe we

13:21

got an embezzlement What

13:25

a good old-fashioned piece of shit he is

13:28

Petty thievery a greedy wife some light

13:30

treason. This is why John Grisham picks up

13:32

the typewriter. He's like, let's go Let's

13:35

adapt Tom Cruise you available Nadine's

13:39

trial starts in July, but the New

13:41

York Times reports Robert Menendez's defense seems

13:43

ready to blame the lion's share of

13:45

the senator's Wrongdoing on his wife. Okay,

13:47

Senator Macbeth Just

13:51

like a man blaming his wife to get out of

13:53

something I'm looking at you Clarence Thomas and

13:56

the gifts of Winnebago's you get or whatever at

13:58

a dinner Dean

14:00

Menendez organized between her husband and Egyptian

14:02

officials in DC, she allegedly asked, what

14:04

else can the love of my life

14:06

do for you? And

14:09

she sit from a chalice made of snakes and cackled

14:11

at the sky. Unfortunately,

14:13

she rules a little bit. It's a

14:15

little obvious. In the wake

14:17

of her dog murder scandal, South Dakota

14:19

Governor Kristi Noem has been banned from six

14:21

reservations by tribal authorities, effectively barring her

14:23

from 20% of the state. Now

14:26

Noem had no way of knowing this in advance,

14:28

but it turns out many indigenous cultures of North

14:30

America consider it somewhat taboo to shoot a puppy

14:32

in the face. But

14:36

don't worry, in a

14:38

stunning coincidence, it's the 20% of the

14:40

state she was already ignoring entirely. I've

14:44

seen a lot of people comparing her to Cruella

14:46

de Vil, but honestly, Cruella de Vil just wanted

14:48

a coat. Kristi meanwhile

14:50

saw a pet enjoying some poultry

14:52

too much and thought, hmm, death

14:54

penalty. Is

14:57

this the end of Kristi Noem? Do people like her survive

14:59

things like this? They always do. Yeah. She

15:03

just stands near Mount Rushmore. What else is there to

15:05

do in South Dakota? I say this affectionately. I

15:08

feel like once the RFK brain worm news came in,

15:10

I was like, we'll see her again in

15:12

six months and no one will remember any of this. We'll see

15:15

her again in six months standing next to Donald Trump. There

15:19

was some statement like, oh, Trump said there's no way I would have her as

15:22

a VP. I'm like, I don't think... In three months,

15:24

that could be not true. She could kill enough

15:27

dogs to balance it out. We

15:30

don't know what will happen, but yeah, that's obviously what

15:32

she's angling for. I can't believe

15:34

she threatened Joe Biden's dog too. She's like, and while

15:36

I'm at it, and I still got this gun in

15:38

my hand. She's literally

15:41

Andrew Little Dog 2 Energy. Yeah. Maybe

15:44

shout out Margaret Hamilton, one of the great character

15:46

actresses of all time. You haven't watched The Wizard

15:48

of Oz recently. The only classic movie where everybody

15:50

in it is a character actor

15:52

and the lead straight man is fucking Judy

15:55

Carlin. How did we get

15:57

away with it? It makes no sense. Over

15:59

in Europe, is Israel came in fifth in

16:01

this year's Eurovision Song Contest after weeks

16:03

of pro-Palestinian protests at the competition. See,

16:05

if Israel just used the weapons the

16:07

U.S. sent them to win Eurovision and

16:10

only to win Eurovision, maybe

16:12

they'd have my support. I'm just saying. For

16:15

months, protesters had called for Eurovision to

16:17

ban Israel from the competition as they

16:19

did Russia in 2022 following its invasion

16:22

of Ukraine. But the people in charge

16:24

of Eurovision knew Israel wasn't going to be that good. So

16:26

they just left it alone. Do you guys

16:28

all watch Eurovision? Sure did. From start

16:30

to finish, I watched like a good fifth of it.

16:32

I did. Yeah, I did semi-final

16:34

one, which was not great. The lineups were

16:36

not stacked well. Semi-final two was much, much

16:39

better and had better performances and then went

16:41

on to the finale. What

16:43

was really surprising about the

16:45

Israel vote is the way Eurovision works is you

16:47

have the jury votes and then you have the

16:50

votes that can come in from the populations of

16:52

the countries plus anyone else who wants to vote

16:54

throughout the world. So

16:56

Israel's jury vote

16:59

had them, they were on the right side of

17:01

the board, which is where you don't want to

17:03

be. Yeah, they were in like 14th or 15th

17:05

place or something. Exactly. And so

17:07

then once the population vote

17:09

came in, they got the highest population

17:11

vote of anyone in the competition with

17:13

323 points. Which was

17:16

not surprising to me at all. Well, it's

17:18

not surprising, but it definitely was interesting when

17:20

you look at all of the protests that

17:22

was happening prior, which was being reported on

17:24

a lot in the lead up to the

17:26

competition and would have made it seem as

17:28

though this was something, their participation

17:30

was something that a lot

17:32

of Europeans were very much against. But

17:35

that was clearly not the case. But also,

17:37

I mean, that probably ginned up the audience vote. You

17:40

know what I mean? People thought they

17:42

had a reason to support them further. And for a

17:44

song that, frankly, everything aside,

17:46

not great. And

17:49

I will say, and like for me, I can say great

17:51

things about former Israeli contestants. Eden

17:53

Melin is one of my favorite

17:55

Eurovision contestants ever. She was an

17:58

Ethiopian Israeli who competed. three

18:00

or four years ago. Great performance. But

18:03

this one, it just wasn't good. No, also I

18:05

just think the Krapov songs this year wasn't that

18:07

good, but Netta was from Israel a

18:09

couple years ago with the song Toy. That's one of

18:11

the great Eurovision songs of the past decade. No, I

18:14

barely even remember this year's entry. It was also so

18:16

beside the point given all the protesting,

18:19

etc. But the fact is,

18:21

it shouldn't be beside the point. If people are

18:23

going to be talking about a contestant, the song

18:25

should be memorable. I was actually somewhat relieved Croatia

18:27

didn't win with their bro-y energy song. What's their

18:29

name is Baby lasagna. I don't want to say

18:31

that. I kept calling their lead singer Lestat and

18:33

his queen of the damned era. Yes. Oh,

18:36

we need more Anne Rice references. Hey, interview with the

18:39

vampires back. Yes, season two. That was

18:41

a good season of TV, the first

18:43

one. Yes, excellent. In the

18:45

end, Switzerland's Nemo bested Croatian crooner,

18:47

Baby lasagna to take the crown. While

18:49

Baby lasagna's performance was unquestionably rich and

18:51

layered, in the end, it simply had

18:53

too much ricotta. Baby, come on, Joe.

18:57

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The trick to this commercial is coffee is hot

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but Lauren is bone chilling. Your

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senses are immediately confused. These

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commercials are also referenced in a scene from Crazy

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Stupid Love where Emma Stone impersonates Lauren Bacall while

23:08

flirting with Ryan Gosling, which is so something I

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would do. I love curling

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up with a rich cup of coffee. What

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do you think coffee and sleep don't mix? Well

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they do if it's high point. Crazy

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Stupid Love, if you watch it drunk, it's practically La La

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Land. Just a reference that all

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28, 30 year

23:27

olds are making. Yeah, no, I was very

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grateful for this sort of thing. We need

23:32

these sort of things kept alive. And I

23:34

assume the homosexuals at SNL are responsible for

23:36

this. So Bo and Jimmy Farley, I'm watching.

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I had to explain it to my husband

23:41

when that happened. He did not, nothing, just

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nothing registered. And yet more has to be

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explained. Then we blend seamlessly into this moment.

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Why? Because tip-top coffee.

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Can you please leave? Who

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me? I'm the cameraman. Well

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you're right in my eye line and I don't like that.

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That's of course the fabulous Maya Rudolph hosting

24:03

by the way. But that's also a callback

24:05

to a different video. This one a behind

24:07

the scenes clip of a truly chaotic Faye

24:10

Dunaway shoot. The audience

24:12

there so close I feel I can touch them.

24:15

Our eyes meet an emotional

24:17

connection. It's thrilling. You

24:19

know I love playing women. Could you leave

24:22

please? You're right in my eyeliner. It's

24:28

too good. By

24:30

the way this is an honest observation about living in Los

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Angeles if you've never visited. If you want

24:34

to hear an amazing story about Faye Dunaway, whether

24:36

on a movie set at a restaurant in a limo

24:38

wherever, go up to literally anybody over the

24:41

age of 47 in Los Angeles. I

24:44

guarantee you they have a Faye Dunaway story.

24:46

I was at a party recently and I met a woman who

24:49

said she ran a salon. I said do you have a Faye

24:51

Dunaway story? With trauma in her eyes.

24:55

She talked about working in costuming on the

24:57

set of a commercial where Faye purposely rubbed

24:59

red lipstick on ivory white pants on

25:02

set so that she would have to dry clean

25:04

them on the spot. It's clear Faye

25:06

Dunaway has had some wild

25:08

problems over the years and they will be

25:10

chronicled in an upcoming documentary about her but

25:13

I say all this not to vilify

25:15

but to deify because celebrities should be

25:17

terrifying. We should not feel comfortable approaching

25:20

them. In fact approachability is the enemy.

25:22

There is not a single relatable thing

25:24

about Faye Dunaway even though it is

25:26

her job to resemble a human being

25:28

on screen. As you can see in

25:31

that commercial, she fails it at some

25:33

point. This is as God intended. You

25:36

guys have much Faye Dunaway Q. I feel like this

25:38

generation is totally unaware of her. I'm

25:40

sorry about it. I mean I love Bonnie and Clyde. I watch it

25:42

like once a year but that's pretty much my Faye Dunaway.

25:46

I love her cameo appearance in the Pierce Brosnan

25:48

Thomas Crown Affair. My favorite movie. She's great in

25:50

that but I'm remiss in the

25:52

original. And she of course is in the original

25:54

Thomas Crown Affair with hair bundled up in a

25:56

chignon look up the word. What is

25:58

your favorite Faye Dunaway movie? I had to

26:01

pay her Oscar-winning turn in network I think is

26:03

important because she just plays a an executive who

26:05

will stop at nothing and I love when we

26:07

give Oscars to Horrible female characters

26:09

like there's only a handful of them really you

26:11

know you got your Kathy Bates and misery who

26:13

actually also has some Sort of winning qualities in

26:15

that movie strangely But

26:18

otherwise I love her in three days of the Condor I

26:20

love her in the very crazy eyes of

26:22

Laura Mars where she's a photographer who takes

26:24

pictures of people and then can predict Who

26:28

force these terrible things happening to them and

26:31

mommy dearest by the way? Is

26:33

a good performance the two camping moments

26:35

you're familiar with are over the top they are wild

26:37

But I think the movie is actually a little bit

26:39

better than people remember Much

26:42

recommended who it would be the

26:44

millennial version of anytime you ask

26:47

a millennial a story about

26:49

xyz person Yeah, I'm one. Oh wow

26:51

well I think I want it to

26:53

be someone like Debra messing who I

26:55

imagine you just mean and she's immediately

26:57

frantic Yeah, that said maybe

26:59

not. I don't know I think people are

27:01

so much better behaved now and fearful of

27:04

seeming chaotic right no I think unfortunately fade

27:06

down away is the last of the I

27:09

mean just asking someone to get out of your eye line Because

27:12

you exist it's so funny. It's so good

27:14

anyway the man behind the viral photo of

27:17

the dress Which we all collectively could not

27:19

decide was either golden white or black and

27:21

blue Pleaded guilty to an

27:23

attempted strangling of his wife this

27:25

week for a second I thought I

27:27

expected better from this guy, but then I remembered the only

27:29

reason he's famous is because his phone has a shitty camera

27:33

So no I expect nothing. I

27:35

really was wrapped up in that situation. I can't

27:37

why why would we get defensive about seeing colors?

27:40

I've never been able to see it as blue and black Really?

27:45

Trust you all and I do yeah I

27:48

don't need to see everything you guys just tell me

27:50

what it looks like yeah It's what it has always

27:52

been white and gold like gold right now I think

27:55

it I don't know like there's like some vision reason I'm

27:57

like well some you're just not that much

28:00

I'm not! I'm not! I know you

28:02

whoever I work with, they know that I'm not.

28:04

I hope he was in the courtroom saying, I couldn't help it,

28:06

Your Honor. I was bread with rage or green with envy. You

28:08

be the job. This

28:11

crime was unforgivable, unless... his wife said the dress was

28:13

white and gold. In which case you're going in there

28:15

with him. Speaking of

28:18

psychopaths, the internet grew concerned when a photo

28:20

emerged of a baby lying on the floor

28:22

of Taylor Swift's Paris Arena show. First

28:24

of all, how could someone that young afford floorsate? It

28:27

makes no sense. Let me tell you, they're a

28:29

lot cheaper over there. Oh, is that true?

28:31

Yeah. Oh! Yeah, $2.50 for Beyonce. Wow,

28:34

okay. People are livid, but I'm

28:36

not too worried by this since it's not my baby.

28:40

Fans are angry because the baby's strapped down

28:42

and kicking its little legs. Technically had stronger

28:45

choreography than Taylor. Guys, I'm so sorry. When

28:47

people post the acts of her strutting, and

28:49

they're like, she nailed it this time, I'm

28:51

like, I believe she is walking. Yeah. She

28:54

has to get from place to place. That's simply how the

28:56

earth works. Yep.

28:59

I'll say something bad about her. I just feel like

29:01

if you're 35, you have to learn to dance. I'm

29:03

like, okay, you're 22, you don't know how to dance yet.

29:06

Do a leap of learn how to dance? You gotta learn

29:08

it. There's no... You see, I'm like, you

29:10

can't just... It's not even stylish

29:12

walking around. It's just walking. How?

29:15

Why are we allowing it? She... Yeah.

29:18

Yeah. She... You seem like a big fan. It

29:21

just... I'm trying not to be mean

29:24

because sometimes Hallie and I are attacked for

29:26

being mean. I know. She's fine. She's gonna...

29:29

I'm dancing. She's gonna be

29:31

fine. And she's gonna be fine without ever

29:33

fucking completing a good eight count in her

29:35

goddamn name. She doesn't have to. People still bring their

29:37

babies to her concert. Which,

29:41

I mean, she's making music for

29:43

people between the ages of six and 14.

29:45

So, like, this makes sense. Yes. I do

29:47

kind of miss the Reputation era when she

29:49

would kind of squat down and slap her

29:51

thighs. That counted as a dance move. I call

29:54

that era, did you know I'm a bitch now? I

29:57

miss that a little bit. She's gonna be 40

29:59

soon. Yeah. You have to, it's

30:01

almost like you can't get away with just never

30:03

learning to dance. Like somehow this is impossible to

30:06

be like, why? She doesn't need to evolve though.

30:08

She's been dancing for years and it's what we're

30:10

just fine for. Because mediocrity

30:12

is accepted a lot more when you

30:14

are a white woman. We all know

30:16

what's going on. Also like I want

30:19

to say like there are versions of

30:21

being a very, like Elton John is

30:23

not dancing for example. So you can

30:25

sit and perform at the instrument but

30:27

she makes gestures towards dancing. Which

30:29

I guess people also find that endearing. Like

30:32

oh I'm not a good dancer myself. It's

30:34

nice to see that projected on stage. She's

30:36

so relatable. I don't pay money to

30:38

see myself projected on the stage.

30:40

I pay money to see

30:42

the triumvirate of performance

30:45

overall to see a vocal.

30:47

I want a vocal. I want someone to do a standing

30:49

back flip. And I want to be here to be a

30:51

back up dancer. But anyway I'm here to do a show.

30:53

I want a dance break. I

30:58

go to a show with a dance break

31:00

memorized. I did not memorize the Diva dance

31:02

break for nothing. That's right. There's

31:04

a lot at stake here. Once

31:07

upon a time all the pop stars were choreographed by Paula

31:09

Abdul. I missed that. You

31:11

would hit the account with Paula please. People

31:13

nowadays don't know anything about it. I think

31:15

Ira said it before about a boom cack.

31:22

When Taylor does interviews again that should be the

31:24

first question. When's the last time we got an

31:26

interview with her? That wasn't like the time 100.

31:29

Yeah. I mean and I can say the same thing for

31:31

my fav too. It's just like this whole trend of celebrities interviewing

31:33

celebrities is so boring. Yeah. It's

31:36

tough. It's tough. When I saw this

31:38

picture for the first time I was not concerned. I assume this was

31:40

the average age of a Taylor Swift fan. Moving

31:44

right along. A third Downton Abbey

31:46

movie was announced this week complete with

31:48

a returning Paul Giamatti just when

31:50

you thought it was safe to speak out of turn. Oh

31:54

my gosh. You guys Violet Crawley allegedly passed

31:56

away last time. That's Maggie Smith's role. But

31:59

you know that's a Michael Myers. situation if

32:01

you really dead did you lower the casket yourself

32:03

now then i sure you see

32:05

still powering up and down those corridors it'll

32:07

be six more movies before lady mary decapitate turned down

32:09

resurrection and i don't know if you'll be able to

32:12

like a younger version of herself but she's one of

32:14

those people who've looked at the same for decades no

32:16

work no if you look for look at her in

32:18

hook it's the same person i assume they will find

32:21

a way to get her in this movie they'll meet

32:23

like a bear and who invented holograms or something they

32:25

don't give a fuck and

32:28

finally a curator from new york american

32:30

museum of natural history was detained monday

32:33

after allegedly smuggling fifteen hundred scorpion and

32:35

spider samples out of turkey despite

32:37

officers to say nikolas page please stop

32:40

curating at new york american museum of

32:42

natural history somewhere

32:45

in turkey there is a man printing thousands of lost

32:47

posters for each of his pet scorpions now

32:50

actually there's a weird method to all this

32:52

authorities believe the samples were meant to be

32:54

used to manufacture venom according to cbs news

32:56

a leader of scorpion venom can be worth

32:59

roughly ten million dollars the reason

33:01

that can be used as a slightly

33:03

less expensive alternative to printer combat and

33:07

i don't know yeah

33:09

i know every really had no for

33:11

one scorpion still your court with scorpion that's

33:13

not hard yeah have to be all the

33:15

time and

33:18

if they're in a pocket they're not like

33:20

fast-moving or anything now and you know

33:22

i think i've watched enough uh... venom milking

33:24

videos on tiktok and i think you know you

33:27

have to have a right now i'll let you have a

33:29

good yeah the algorithm knows what i need to be

33:31

doing this even if i don't yet

33:33

i'm just saying please stop trying to manufacture more

33:35

venom i hated the first three movies

33:37

guys and i'm

33:39

having a good time picture me there thank

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you so much for having me on this show uh... he's

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left on the internet once

33:48

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