Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
2:00
i stay close to the steps of the shallow
2:02
and i can swim i can hardly flowed
2:05
i have nothing for buoyancy i'm scrawny
2:07
any body fat i may have is hiding
2:10
or had swimming lessons at summer camp but apparently
2:12
haven't learned much i'm
2:15
practicing floating on my back we're trying to
2:17
over and over again i leaned back kick
2:20
my feet off the floor of the pool hover
2:22
for a second at the surface but then
2:24
my concave chest collapses i
2:26
think like a rock and come up sputtering
2:30
my flailing routine sinking
2:32
almost drowning catch my breath repeat
2:35
is interrupted when a teenager wage over to
2:37
me he's
2:38
tall or at least a lot taller than i am
2:41
lean tanned a
2:43
halo of blonde curls backlit
2:45
my vacation son maybe fifteen
2:47
or sixteen per catch his name let
2:51
me give you a hand i'll help you float he says
2:55
just relax and lean back i
2:57
won't drop you promise i'd
3:00
use i'm told he places one
3:02
hand at the base of my spine and another
3:04
between my shoulder blades he
3:06
eases me out of the water's surface
3:09
that's what happens a
3:12
surge
3:12
of energy like nothing i've ever
3:14
felt before not a lightning
3:16
bolt or an electric shock but a liquid
3:18
place that spreads up and down my spine
3:21
between his hands
3:23
the back
3:23
of my head in the water in my ears
3:25
below the surface i can hear
3:27
the inside of each breath instead
3:30
of seeking and flailing
3:32
i am so alive and
3:34
i
3:34
have no idea what this feeling means for the
3:36
life stretching out ahead of
3:38
me as i stare
3:40
at the sky all at once
3:43
electric blue i'm
3:48
eric marcus this is coming of age during
3:50
the nineteen seventies a production and making a
3:52
history chapter
3:54
one a surge of energy Gay
4:00
is proud, gay is proud, gay
4:03
is proud to say it. June 28, 1970.
4:08
One of the most important days in the history
4:10
of the American homosexuals' fight for
4:12
freedom. Gay power, gay power,
4:14
gay power, gay power.
4:16
Thousands marched in New York City, Chicago,
4:19
and Los Angeles. They represented
4:21
the mood of growing militancy in the United
4:24
States' gay community. Gay power, gay, gay, gay, gay,
4:26
gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay,
4:30
Dateline, San Francisco, 1970,
4:33
from the desk of Carl Whitman. This
4:36
is the Gay Manifesto. In
4:38
the past year, there has been an
4:40
awakening of gay liberation ideas
4:43
and energies. How it began,
4:45
we don't know. Maybe we were inspired
4:47
by black people and their freedom movement?
4:50
We learned how to stop pretending from the hip
4:52
revolution. America,
4:54
in all its ugliness, has surfaced
4:57
with the war and our national leaders. And
4:59
we are repulsed by
5:01
the quality of our ghetto life.
5:07
In the wake of the Stonewall uprising, a dam
5:09
had burst. The flood of organizing
5:11
it unleashed in the new decade was unprecedented
5:14
in American LGBTQ history.
5:16
In the first half of the 1970s, hundreds
5:19
of new organizations were blossoming, thousands
5:21
of young people were joining the movement and demanding
5:23
their rights. For starters, an
5:26
end to discrimination, the repeal of laws
5:28
criminalizing their relationships, and the removal
5:30
of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses.
5:33
And their tactics changed radically.
5:39
Gone were the days of parading respectfully
5:41
and quietly in shirts and ties, skirts
5:43
and pumps as the homophile groups had done in the
5:45
1960s. These young people wanted
5:48
liberation.
5:52
That is a zap. These
5:54
in-your-face protests were the hallmark of the
5:57
Gay Activist Alliance. The GAA
5:59
zaps.
6:00
or attention-grabbing, personal, and
6:02
kind of playful. Yay, activist alliance!
6:05
Don't
6:05
use the game! Where are we? Don't
6:08
use the game! This tape is from New York City
6:10
in June 1971. Members
6:13
of GAA have invaded the city's marriage
6:15
bureau. They're furious with the city
6:17
clerk, Herman Katz, who's been threatening
6:19
legal action over a same-sex marriage
6:22
ceremony of Holy Union that was held
6:24
at the Church of Holy Apostles earlier that
6:26
year. A marriage between two
6:28
men or two women was, of course, illegal
6:30
back then. The activists are
6:32
having fun with their fury. You want an invitation
6:34
to our reception? Here, you're invited. This
6:37
office belongs to us. The bureau takeover
6:40
includes a plan to host an engagement party for
6:42
two same-sex couples. They've even brought
6:44
cake. Here's GAA
6:46
member Arthur Evans answering the bureau's
6:48
phone to an unsuspecting member of the public.
6:51
This is definitely the marriage bureau, but it's
6:53
been taken over by the Gay Activist Alliance. Your
6:56
mother and dad are going to get married? Are they gay? I'm
6:59
sorry, we can't help you. No,
7:03
I can't. I'm sorry. But if you come down and talk
7:05
to some person, we'll be glad to talk to you. Give you some
7:07
free wedding cake. Oh
7:09
yes, we'll be here for quite a while. Well,
7:12
that's possible.
7:14
Okay, bye-bye.
7:17
Do that long, yeah, my brothers and
7:19
my sisters. The Gay Activists Alliance
7:21
was just one of the hundreds of new organizations
7:23
taking root. the Queen's Liberation Front,
7:26
lesbian feminist liberation, and... Let's
7:30
hear now from the Great Transvestite Action
7:33
Revolutionary. CHEERING
7:37
Sylvia Lee Rivera. Right on, Sylvia. In
7:42
March 1971, representatives from a dozen or so
7:44
gay rights groups held
7:46
a rally in Albany, New York State's capital. They
7:49
were lobbying for the passage of a statewide gay rights bill. gay
7:51
rights bill. Sylvia Rivera was
7:53
there representing the street transvestite action revolutionaries
7:56
or star and she was full of
7:59
revolutionary zeal. addressing the rally.
8:10
which
8:30
is a felony A, one to three years,
8:32
which is a trumped up
8:34
charge, which should be thrown off
8:36
the book.
8:36
Why not? Why not? And the
8:39
only way we can achieve this is by
8:41
revolution. I don't believe in the Lord, then
8:43
do it, neither do we. And revolution is
8:45
the only way. To all the people,
8:48
power to all the people that are oppressed,
8:51
revolution and revolutionary love. Thank
8:53
you. Right now. Like many activists
8:56
at the time, Sylvia had a finger in numerous
8:58
revolutionary pies. Thank you, Sylvia.
9:01
In addition to starting the Street Transvestite Action
9:03
revolutionaries with her friend Marsha B. Johnson,
9:05
Sylvia was an early member of the Gay Activist
9:07
Alliance, playing a key role in its founding.
9:11
She was also part of the Gay Caucus of the Young
9:13
Lords, the Puerto Rican Revolutionary Youth
9:15
Party. For groups like that, you
9:17
couldn't separate gay liberation from the global
9:19
revolutionary struggle,
9:21
a struggle for liberation from racism
9:23
and American imperialism. And
9:25
the activism was erupting from a deep dissatisfaction.
9:28
No, that's not it. And utter rejection
9:31
is more like it, of the status quo.
9:33
Everything was on the table demands-wise to
9:35
overthrow the system. Connecting struggles
9:38
meant gay liberation must also demand
9:40
an end to criminalization and incarceration.
9:45
As the marchers passed the Women's House of
9:47
Detention at Greenwich and Sixth Avenues,
9:50
a chant of free our sisters, free ourselves,
9:53
welled up. Free our sisters, free our
9:55
children.
9:56
Free our sisters, free our children.
9:58
Carl Whitman's Gay Manifesto. Section 7
10:00
on Coalition. Right
10:03
now, the bulk of our work has to be among ourselves.
10:07
Self-educating, fending off attacks,
10:09
and building our free territory. But,
10:12
two problems exist with that as a total
10:14
vision. One, we
10:16
can't change America alone. We
10:19
need coalition with other oppressed groups
10:21
at some point. Two, many
10:23
of us have mixed identities. We are
10:26
gay, and we are also part of another group
10:28
trying to free itself. itself. Women,
10:30
Blacks, other minority
10:32
groups. We may also have taken on identities
10:34
which are vital to us. Dopers,
10:36
ecologists, radicals. Whom
10:40
do we look to for coalition?
10:45
This is Huey Newton, co-founder and
10:48
de facto leader of the Black Panthers. We've
10:50
had meetings with the homosexual
10:53
representatives of the homosexual group and
10:56
also the women's Liberation
10:59
Front.
11:00
Newton is speaking on Pacifica Radio
11:02
in August 1970. That
11:04
same month he published a manifesto in the Black
11:07
Panther Party newspaper calling for
11:09
an alliance between the Panthers and women's
11:11
liberation and gay liberation.
11:13
The homosexual group have been
11:16
oppressed so much and so
11:18
badly until it
11:20
was hard to convince them that
11:22
the Black Panther Party is
11:25
relating to them. But we
11:27
see that
11:30
homosexuals are human beings and
11:33
they are oppressed because of the bourgeois
11:35
mentality and the bourgeois
11:37
treachery that exists
11:40
in this country that tries
11:42
to legislate sexual
11:45
activity. Most
11:47
of the laws or laws not
11:50
to promote freedom, which
11:53
is, I believe, one
11:55
of the most essential things the man
11:58
universally strives after. whether
12:00
it's internal freedom or external freedom.
12:03
Even from here, peering back 50 years
12:05
into the past, the energy is palpable.
12:09
The Gay Liberation Front, the very first of
12:11
the radical organizations found in the immediate aftermath
12:13
of the Stonewall Uprising, was spawning
12:15
Marxist offshoots, including
12:18
Third World Gay Revolution and the
12:20
Red Butterfly Cell. For some
12:22
activists, Gay Liberation was about more
12:25
than asking for legal reforms. It was
12:27
a revolutionary call to join
12:29
with all the other groups fighting against the system.
12:32
We felt that the struggles should be united,
12:34
not separated, and
12:36
that they were part of the same struggle. Martha
12:39
Shelley was a founder of the Gay Liberation
12:41
Front. Which, if you can
12:43
for me, list what struggles
12:46
were united at that time. Well,
12:50
they were united in our hearts, not in the
12:52
political reality of the world. the black
12:55
civil rights movement, the
12:57
struggle against the
13:00
Vietnam War, and the tendency of
13:05
the U.S. government to first
13:08
of all involve in self-indominating the rest of
13:10
the world,
13:11
and second to draft
13:15
our young asses, at least the male young asses,
13:17
and send them over there to get killed. The
13:22
women's movement, feminist politics,
13:25
socialist politics, the whole
13:28
idea behind the war on poverty, which
13:31
anybody who was involved in it more and more began
13:33
to see that it would have to involve
13:35
changing the structure of the society,
13:38
not just throwing out a few more welfare
13:40
dollars. Every
13:43
ethnic group had its own civil rights cause,
13:45
and
13:46
And of course the gay cause. You
13:48
can think of any more will throw them in there.
13:51
Oh yeah. I'm
13:53
not sure how to describe this,
13:57
but in a sense it was a movement
13:59
for psychic. liberation and
14:02
it was related to the insights we
14:04
got from taking psychedelics
14:06
was of the right to marines
14:09
of a movement you have the right to take whatever
14:11
germs you chose as long as you didn't hurt anybody
14:13
right that was one of our platforms
14:16
but that was the
14:18
point wasn't taking the drugs the point
14:21
was at least the where we
14:23
thought at the time
14:24
to liberate
14:27
our minds from the
14:31
philosophical constraints
14:34
a psychological constraints put them this the
14:36
things that you are allowed to think the
14:39
philosophies that you were allowed to hold
14:42
the way right thinking people always what supposed
14:44
to thing
14:47
young people were changing the world
14:50
it was the quickly energy of the previously
14:52
unimaginable seeming possible
14:56
we thought the government was going to come down
15:06
in may nineteen seventy one the get
15:08
to this alliance took over an old fire
15:10
department building and so hope new york city
15:13
they called it the firehouse until
15:16
the early seventies gay and lesbian people
15:18
mostly relied on bars for their safe spaces
15:21
and they really weren't safe they were often
15:23
run by the mafia and subject police raids
15:26
but spaces like the firehouse and
15:28
the gay liberation front stances at a place
15:30
on the edge of greenwich village called alternate you
15:33
were something else
15:34
something magical we
15:39
were expressing our felt
15:42
physically were expressing our affection for
15:44
each other in our sense of community in those damn
15:46
that's what do couldn't go and gay bars the
15:48
fear of being rated i would say yeah
15:51
that was really strong but at least
15:53
in the gay liberation dances there
15:55
was this consciousness of we
15:58
are here to give each other while the next
16:00
and who we are is okay.
16:02
And there were circle dances. You
16:05
never saw that in a gay bar. Instead of two
16:07
people against the world, it was
16:10
our whole community
16:11
giving each other support.
16:16
Over at the Firehouse, there
16:18
were weekly dances.
16:22
My former lover took me down to
16:25
the Firehouse, and this was 1971. 1971 and
16:29
I didn't know what to expect and
16:31
I remember Walking in
16:33
and it looked like a firehouse. They had
16:35
the first floor was like a wide
16:37
open I guess that's where the trucks used to be
16:40
and they had the big dances
16:42
interview with Joyce hunter interviewer
16:45
is Eric Marcus It was
16:47
exciting and it was a woman's
16:49
dance. I was Really
16:52
overwhelmed and it was like
16:55
For me, it was like coming
16:57
home. It was the first time
17:00
that I saw a
17:02
group of women not in a bar situation.
17:05
And it was so exciting. And
17:07
I was just, it was very overwhelming. But
17:10
boy, but I got hooked in to the
17:14
people who were doing this. You know, I was saying,
17:17
what a wonderful thing. And it was the first time I learned
17:19
about, I didn't know nothing about feminism. I
17:21
didn't know what it meant. And
17:24
I didn't know about the gay movement. I mean, I was
17:26
still closeted, but
17:27
I had decided to come out after going to
17:29
that dance. It
17:35
was like, why
17:38
am I living this crazy life?
17:40
And
17:44
so the movement really did so much for
17:46
me. It was like, it
17:48
gave me a sense of who I was and a sense of identity
17:51
that I really didn't have.
17:55
And there was Cabaret. Now
17:58
to start the show.
18:00
I did nervous, according to the front
18:02
of the line. The beloved Mama Jean
18:04
Devante not only served as Grand
18:06
Marshal at a number of early pride marches,
18:09
she was a key member of the Gay Activist Alliance
18:11
and Lesbian Feminist Liberation. A
18:14
self-described butch dyke, on this
18:16
occasion, she's not in her usual threads.
18:19
The tape is a little fuzzy with age, and
18:21
also as messy as you'd expect from
18:23
a chaotic cabaret at the firehouse. But
18:25
it sounds like Mama Jean is all
18:28
dressed up to MC the cabaret, literally
18:31
dressed up. She's being introduced as
18:33
the world's first female, female
18:36
personator.
18:45
Apparently, she's finding her girdle kind
18:48
of uncomfortable. Ah! I was
18:50
just fucking curious about it! Come on! Thank
18:55
you! You should know what I look like underneath!
18:58
I know! Your dreams are... How
19:00
much do you know? Gee-go! Honey,
19:03
don't look what I'm not here or
19:05
I'll squeeze your balls. Isn't
19:08
this beautiful? Man can live the ends together
19:10
in one day. Yes! The
19:20
Gay Liberation Front's magazine published its
19:22
first edition in the months following Stonewall.
19:25
Titled, Come Out, it was a magazine
19:28
and it was a challenge for LGBTQ
19:30
people to be seen and to find each other.
19:33
The personal was the political. Coming
19:36
out was then, as it is now an
19:38
individual journey, but
19:39
the visibility it brought with it, the
19:42
payoff that came with the very real personal
19:44
risk, was a vital part of the movement
19:47
for gay rights.
19:48
Here's a little something from Kama'aout's third
19:50
edition in April 1970. It's
19:53
a review of one of the dances at Alternate You
19:55
by Kathy Braun.
19:57
Under the subtitle Art Review, Kathy
19:59
writes, The dancing was of the
20:01
usual superlative quality. Them
20:04
queers can sure shake a leg.
20:06
Under analysis, Kathy goes on. Who
20:08
wants to go to a gay bar when you can get 600 dancing
20:11
partners a light show and free coat
20:13
check, all for a contribution of $1.50, which
20:16
drinks only a quarter? Although
20:18
I feel that GLF is not unified
20:20
on its specific politics, and need
20:23
it be, the underlying theory
20:25
that prevails is that effective politics
20:27
must be based on caring about people,
20:30
and it is this theory, which permeates the
20:33
actions of every member of GLF, and
20:35
communicates directly to the people who come to the
20:37
dances. Although there are some
20:39
people who get together to talk politics, most
20:42
people are simply dancing, looking, listening,
20:45
groping, drinking, laughing, having
20:47
fun, being cared about. Gorgeous.
20:53
Joyful community building has always been
20:55
one of the best antidotes to the isolation
20:58
imposed by oppression. And
21:00
the gay community was growing. Fast.
21:03
The number of people involved in the movement was ballooning
21:05
from hundreds to tens of thousands. I
21:07
mean, that's nothing like today with millions
21:09
of LGBTQ people out and proud. But
21:12
still, the ways gay people were becoming
21:14
visible mattered. Magazines,
21:16
dances, marches and zaps. And
21:19
that visibility was reaching as far as big
21:21
national political events. The speaker
21:23
who just started is Madeline Davis, a
21:26
32-year-old communications worker from Buffalo,
21:28
New York, who just identified herself as
21:30
a lesbian. 1972, the
21:33
Democratic Party National Convention
21:35
in Miami Beach, Florida.
21:37
20 million Americans are grateful
21:39
and proud of the Democratic Party.
21:42
Madeline Davis was the first openly
21:44
lesbian delegate to a major party convention,
21:47
and she urged the party to include gay rights
21:49
as part of the 1972 Democratic platform.
21:52
We are the minorities of
21:55
minorities. We belong to every
21:57
race and creed, both sexes.
22:00
Every economic and social level,
22:02
every nationality and religion. We
22:04
live in large cities and in small towns,
22:07
but we are the untouchables in American
22:10
society. We have suffered
22:12
the gamut of oppression from being
22:15
totally ignored or ridiculed
22:17
to having our heads smashed and
22:20
our blood spilled in the streets. Now
22:23
we are coming out of our closets and onto
22:26
the convention floor to tell
22:28
you the delegates and
22:30
to tell all gay people throughout
22:33
America that we are here
22:35
to put an end to our fears.
22:36
Gay rights activists from all
22:38
over the country were there. Here was Jim
22:41
Als from Gay Activist Alliance. There was beat
22:43
poet Alan Ginsberg, and on the main
22:45
stage, Madeleine, strident and
22:47
clear.
22:48
Our fears that people will know us for
22:50
who we are, that they will shun
22:52
and revile us, fire us from our
22:54
jobs, reject us from our families,
22:57
evicted us from our homes, beat us
22:59
and jail us. And for what? Because
23:02
we have chosen to love each other.
23:06
I
23:06
am asking that you vote yes." A
23:09
female delegate from Ohio addressed
23:11
the convention, offering a rebuttal to the
23:13
Gay and Lesbian Caucus' proposed plank. She
23:16
connected homosexuality with prostitution
23:19
and pedophilia.
23:20
The plank was not added to the Democratic
23:22
Party platform that year. It would
23:24
take the Democratic National Party another
23:27
eight years to include gay rights in their platform.
23:30
And that New York State gay rights bill, Sylvia Rivera,
23:33
and others were rallying about in Albany back
23:35
in March 1971? That was
23:37
voted down two months later. As
23:39
Dr. Martin Luther King said many times,
23:41
the arc of the moral universe is long, but
23:44
it bends toward justice.
23:45
Activists can be laying the groundwork for
23:48
decades before a payoff.
23:50
There's this uneasy pairing of the kind
23:52
of impatience that refuses to accept the status
23:54
quo, with the kind of patience needed
23:56
to stay the course.
23:58
As a matter of fact...
24:00
Madeleine Davis was the founding member of
24:02
the Buffalo, New York chapter of the Mattachine Society.
24:04
I point that out because Mattachine itself was one
24:06
of the first US homophile organizations founded
24:10
back in the 1950s and 60s.
24:13
From Carl Whitman's The Gay Manifesto,
24:16
Section 7 on Coalition, Subsection 6,
24:20
Homophile Groups. Reformist
24:24
and pokey as they might sometimes
24:26
be. They are our brothers.
24:29
They will grow just as we have grown and
24:31
will grow. Don't attack them,
24:34
particularly in straight or mixed company.
24:37
Two, ignore their attacks
24:40
on us. Three, cooperate
24:43
where
24:43
cooperation is possible without
24:45
essential compromise on our identity.
24:51
As the Marxists marched and the gay liberationists'
24:54
lovins and zaps drew attention, the
24:56
work of that reformist and pokey
24:59
homophile movement was bearing
25:01
fruit.
25:02
This fall, Making Gay History will tell the
25:04
story of how homosexuality came
25:06
to be removed from the DSM. The
25:09
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual
25:11
was the official manual of psychiatric
25:13
disorders, and for as long as it had existed,
25:16
it had defined gay people as mentally
25:18
ill.
25:19
The facts of gay lives,
25:21
our loves, our identities, were
25:24
pathologized. How significant
25:27
was the removal of homosexuality?
25:29
Very significant because it means that
25:33
people who want to
25:35
discriminate against homosexuals
25:37
can say, look, the psychiatrists call it
25:39
an illness. It's considered a sexual
25:42
perversion
25:43
and they're a fancier name and
25:47
we can't have people who are
25:49
sick working for us. entitled to
25:51
stop them from being school teachers
25:53
or from hiring them or something of that sort.
25:56
So it wasn't merely that we removed them
25:59
from the...
26:00
of illness, we stated that
26:02
there was no reason why a gay
26:05
man and woman couldn't be just as
26:07
healthy, just as effective,
26:10
just as law-abiding
26:12
and capable of functioning as
26:16
any heterosexual, and furthermore,
26:18
that laws that discriminated
26:21
against them in housing or in employment
26:24
were unjustified.
26:27
Dr. Judd Marmer was a key figure
26:29
in the fight to remove homosexuality from the
26:31
DSM. You'll meet him this fall,
26:33
along with the other happy warriors who
26:35
took on the medical establishment and won.
26:39
You'll hear archival interviews, newly uncovered
26:41
tape, and first-person accounts. But
26:43
that's this fall. For now, you
26:45
need to know that in 1973, this
26:48
major hurdle was overcome. In
26:50
fact, the Chicago Gay Crusader newspaper
26:52
headline read, 20 million gay
26:55
people cured. It was official.
26:57
We weren't crazy anymore. But we were
26:59
still facing discrimination in housing, at work,
27:02
and in public accommodations. There were still
27:04
bar raids, police harassment, and beatings.
27:07
Professionals still lost their licenses to teach,
27:09
practice law, practice medicine, or psychiatry.
27:12
And when you have no rights,
27:13
you have no recourse. Meanwhile,
27:17
the first anti-discrimination laws have been passed
27:19
in East Lansing and Ann Arbor, laws
27:22
criminalizing sex between two men or two
27:24
women were repealed in several states, including
27:27
Oregon, Connecticut, Colorado, and Hawaii. Local
27:30
gay rights organizations were taking root, taking
27:33
action, and pushing the ball forward.
27:37
You know all that stuff people believe happened in the 60s?
27:41
It was actually the 1970s, a
27:43
misunderstood decade that I've come to understand
27:46
as the gay rights movement's adolescence. which
27:49
might be because it was also mine, just
27:51
starting to unfold in that pool at the Kreeb Hilton
27:53
in Puerto Rico.
27:58
I never saw that teenage swim instructor
28:00
with the golden halo again. It
28:03
would be years before I came to understand what
28:05
that feeling of liquid bliss really
28:07
was, what it meant.
28:09
I was still a kid. I
28:12
wasn't connected to the fight for gay rights,
28:14
but those battles were already shaping
28:17
my future. Those
28:19
activists were in the fight
28:22
for my life.
28:28
time on Coming of Age during the
28:30
1970s. Coming of Age without
28:33
a compass. Join us for
28:35
Fire Island and other stories.
28:43
This season of Making Gay History is produced and written
28:45
by me, Eric Marcus, and Making Gay History's
28:48
founding editor, Sara Burningham, with
28:50
archival research and production assistance from
28:52
Brian Fairey. Coming of Age during
28:54
the 1970s was mixed in sound
28:56
design by Anne Pope. Many
28:59
thanks to our hard-working crew at Making K History,
29:01
including Deputy Director Inge Duttaia,
29:04
Studio Engineer Michael Bognoir, photo
29:06
editor Michael Green, and our social media
29:08
producers Christiana Pena and Nick Porter.
29:11
This season was recorded at CDM Sound
29:13
Studios. Special thanks to interviewer
29:16
slash oral historian Shane O'Neill. Our
29:18
theme music and additional scoring were composed
29:21
by Fritz Myers. Thank you
29:23
to Brick Artery for allowing us to use audio
29:26
from his incredible documentary album,
29:28
June 28, 1970, Gay and Proud. The tape from the Firehouse
29:32
Cabaret is courtesy of the Rudy
29:34
Grillo collection at the LGBTQ
29:36
Center in New York, and the audio of
29:39
Sylvia Rivera's speech at the 1971 Albany rally
29:42
is courtesy of the Charles Pitts collection, also
29:45
at the center. Sound from the Gay
29:47
Activist Alliance's Marriage Bureau's app comes
29:50
from the inimitable Randy Wicker's extraordinary
29:52
personal archive, some of which can be found
29:55
on YouTube. Huey Newton's August 1971
29:58
interview was with San Francisco Bay
30:00
Area radio station KPFA thanks
30:03
to the Pacifica Archive. Carl
30:05
Whitman's gay manifesto is voiced by the incomparable
30:08
Devlin Camp, producer, writer, and
30:10
host of Queer Serial, a three-season
30:12
podcast chronicling LGBTQ
30:15
plus liberation in America from the beginning
30:17
to the Stonewall Uprising and its aftermath. And
30:21
thank you to Making Gay History's Deputy Director
30:23
Inge de Tayah, who is the voice of Kathy
30:25
Braun's Come Out column. Our
30:28
deputy director has such range.
30:32
This season of the podcast was made possible by
30:34
the generous support of the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation,
30:37
Patrick Hines and Steve Tipton, Broadway
30:39
Cares Equity Fights Aids, The Calamus
30:41
Foundation, Andrew and Erwin Press,
30:44
Bill Cux, Louis Bradbury, and scores
30:46
of other individual supporters. This
30:48
episode was underwritten with a very
30:51
generous donation from Andres Fund
30:53
and Robert Dodd honoring André
30:56
Bonhout. Please consider
30:58
joining us on Making Gay History's Patreon channel,
31:00
where you can support our work and at the same time gain
31:03
access to exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes
31:05
conversations, and additional archival
31:07
audio excerpts that we think you'll enjoy
31:09
hearing. Sign up for just $5
31:12
a month at patreon.com slash
31:14
Making Gay History. Or just
31:16
go to MakingGayHistory.com and click
31:18
on the Patreon button. Coming
31:21
of age during the 1970s is a production
31:23
of Making Gay History.
31:24
I'm Eric Marcus. So long. time.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More