0:03

The best story ever was this woman, her

0:05

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0:07

and talking and talking and talking and

0:10

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0:12

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0:14

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0:17

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0:19

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0:21

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0:23

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0:26

have an incredibly famous voice

0:28

actor, Tara Strong. She's

0:31

Timmy Turner in The Fairly Odd Parents.

0:34

She is Bubbles in The

0:36

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0:38

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0:41

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0:53

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1:19

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1:21

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1:23

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1:25

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1:27

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1:31

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1:33

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3:51

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3:54

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3:56

probably know who she is, maybe even without

3:58

knowing who she is. She began

4:00

her acting career at the age of

4:03

13 in Toronto where Jonathan is also

4:05

from They actually went to the same high school

4:07

fun facts and she did a

4:09

bunch of TV and movies and musical

4:12

theater and she landed her first lead

4:14

animated series in the title role of

4:17

Hello Kitty the first series

4:19

with an English-speaking Hello Kitty and

4:21

the voice was Tara Strong people

4:24

she ended up moving to Los Angeles after

4:26

a run in Toronto's Second City and She

4:29

did a bunch of on-camera stuff, but

4:31

she is Bubbles

4:33

in the Powerpuff Girls if you've ever listened

4:35

to the Powerpuff Girls, she's bubbles She's

4:38

Timmy Turner in the Fairly Odd Parents.

4:40

She's been in Ben 10 I've

4:43

worked with her in recess and detention. She's

4:45

been in Rugrats. She is Raven in

4:48

Teen Titans and also Teen

4:50

Titans go She's Emmy nominated. She's also the

4:52

winner of a Shorty Award. She is currently

4:55

She's Batgirl She's

4:57

she was Batgirl She's now Harley

4:59

in all things DC Universe if

5:02

you've heard anything with Harley's voice

5:04

a video game a show anything

5:06

It's Tara Strong She's

5:08

currently working on wait for it. These

5:10

are all the series she works on pretty

5:12

hard cases Raven Teen Titans

5:14

go Batgirl Harley and Raven DC

5:16

superhero girls mama box and Katy

5:18

fairy Gabby's dollhouse and Marvel's

5:21

hit Loki you've heard her voice at

5:23

some point in your life and we're

5:25

so excited to get to talk to her about magic

5:31

Intuition Manifesting and

5:33

also what it's actually like to have

5:35

to play all these voices and be

5:38

the voice of so many people's Happiness

5:41

and what that's like to interface with with all of her fans

5:45

break It down Tara

5:48

welcome to the breakdown. Thanks for

5:50

having me. Um in reading your

5:52

bio. It is worth mentioning You

5:55

work on many television shows at the same

5:58

time That's

6:00

true. Like, I think I counted eight?

6:03

Yeah, I think sometimes it's like

6:06

four and sometimes it's ten at the

6:08

same time. So you and

6:10

I used to audition in kind of the same

6:12

circles at the same sort of period of time

6:14

and there was a time when I got voiceover

6:16

work and then we ended up getting to do

6:19

an episode of Recess together and then

6:21

I stopped getting work and I realized you were

6:23

getting more and more work. By

6:26

the way, we also did Lloyd and Space

6:28

together. We were a two-headed monster. We were

6:30

a two-headed monster, that's right. But

6:33

it's really, it's

6:36

an astounding, impressive resume

6:38

that you have in

6:40

that you are able

6:42

to have your voice on

6:44

so many different platforms at

6:47

the same time. And I have

6:49

to ask, was this like a

6:52

dream of yours as a child? Like I have

6:54

an amazing voice and I'm going to get to

6:56

be on ten shows at the same time. No.

7:01

Okay, I knew when I was five years

7:03

old that I think you're the same, wanted

7:05

to be singer dancer actress. It's all I

7:07

wanted and I knew that before

7:10

I knew it was a career, it

7:12

just looked fun and I

7:14

came here to perform and no one in

7:16

my family was a performer except a grandfather

7:19

who was a canter. But

7:21

nobody knew anything about showbiz. I grew up

7:23

in Toronto. My mom was a caterer. My

7:25

dad was a pharmacist. We had a toy

7:27

store. I grew up in this

7:30

toy store and my parents were the first to

7:32

import Hello Kitty into Toronto. I have a picture

7:34

of myself as a five-year-old with my dad in

7:36

a Hello Kitty furry costume. And

7:39

like we didn't have a lot of

7:41

money, but they were very supportive of

7:43

me fulfilling this dream and I had

7:45

lots of acting, singing, dancing classes my

7:47

whole life. My first sort

7:50

of professional performance was at the Yiddish theatre.

7:52

I spoke Hebrew, not Yiddish, but I learned

7:54

it phonetically and all the boobies called me

7:56

the wundermaid luck and it was very wonderful.

8:00

And then I finally got an

8:02

agent and I got my

8:04

first theatre production at Toronto's downtown Lime Lights dinner

8:06

theatre, which was the Music Man and a lot

8:08

of people's first show was the Music Man. And

8:12

my first on-camera show, which was a show with

8:14

Mr. T, and my first cartoon, which was Hello

8:17

Kitty. I was the

8:19

first English-speaking voice, the first time she had a

8:21

mouth, was 13. Wait, so

8:23

this blew my mind. I didn't notice about

8:25

you. I started when I was 13. And

8:28

you were Hello Kitty? First series.

8:31

That was the title role of Hello Kitty. First time

8:33

she had a mouth. It's the first time she had a mouth.

8:35

What does that sound like? Hello Kitty is for

8:37

each of theatre's products to present The Wizard of

8:40

Pause. That's exactly what

8:42

I think Hello Kitty should sound like.

8:44

Yeah, she does. Yeah. So

8:46

I did it now. And in Toronto,

8:48

I had a very well-rounded

8:51

career. I had a

8:53

sitcom that was, you know, I was the kid in

8:55

the sitcom. I had lots of

8:57

film and TV roles, a lot of runaway

8:59

production stuff that went to Toronto that I

9:01

shot, and tons of cartoons. Beetlejuice Care Bears,

9:03

My Pet Monster, you know, garbage

9:05

pail kids, all kinds of crazy stuff. So

9:08

then when I came here, it wasn't a blank

9:10

resume, right? I had a very extensive resume. But

9:12

even with that, it did take some time. I

9:15

was eviction notice broke for like two years. And

9:17

great story, the person who gave me Hello

9:20

Kitty saved my LA existence and called me

9:22

and said, would you be on the new

9:24

Inspector Gadget show? It's called Gadget Boy and Heather. So

9:26

she gave me Hello Kitty. And then she gave me

9:29

the job that kept me in Los Angeles. And her

9:31

name is Marisha Goodman. So she's

9:33

my voice over angel. She's your, yeah,

9:35

fairy dog mother. So, okay. So

9:38

I want to go back to what you did

9:40

with your voice when you did

9:42

your Hello Kitty voice. I can't do

9:45

that with my voice. A lot of people

9:47

can't do that. When did

9:49

you realize you had this kind

9:51

of ability to create voices very

9:53

distinctive from yours? Are you sure

9:56

you can't do that? I can't do that. I

9:59

think you just think you can. do that but I bet

10:01

if you had the challenge to do that like

10:03

what if they're like okay we want you to

10:05

play June foray in her life-time story and you

10:07

have to practice I bet you're being right you're

10:09

being very you're being very humble because everybody

10:12

has different vocal chords and everybody

10:14

has different different musculature in there

10:16

in those parts like you do things with

10:19

your with your voice and with your vocal

10:21

chords that don't hurt your voice like I

10:23

can do things with my voice but I

10:25

can only do it a couple times. When

10:28

did you realize that you had the

10:30

ability to sort of do a variety

10:32

of different sounds and then most people

10:34

can make? Probably pretty young because I

10:36

did always do funny voices my sister

10:38

and I had our own little fake

10:40

radio station when we record ourselves and

10:43

I was the kid at six seven years old

10:45

that would take my mom's hand and say let's

10:47

pretend we're from England in this store like

10:50

I loved doing accents and voices

10:52

always so it's definitely like I

10:55

think like look mine you came with

10:58

a brilliant brain and a gorgeous singing voice

11:00

and acting abilities there's no question there are

11:02

kids that come that play the piano guitar

11:04

we know these kids can paint shit at

11:06

like I don't know can we say show

11:08

on the show at like five years old

11:10

right like you come with certain gifts so

11:12

I think one of mine is the ability

11:14

to manipulate my voice create characters that seem

11:16

to make people feel something which is what

11:18

really matters right a lot of people come

11:20

to me and say oh I really want

11:22

to give voice over and that's their voice

11:24

and I'm like have you had any acting

11:26

experience right because it's not about having a

11:28

interesting voice or a unique voice it will

11:30

work for some commercial careers

11:33

or promo careers or like a job

11:35

here and there that they have a

11:37

very distinct voice that that works for

11:39

but to sustain a Long

11:41

career where you are creating multiple characters

11:43

you do need to have. Most of us

11:45

have that can do this a pretty

11:47

normal sounding voice and can manipulate our

11:49

sound to become other characters. which is

11:51

what happens right? You don't just change your

11:54

voice you for me in my process

11:56

I See them in my head. They

11:58

live in my head when it's. Their

12:00

turn to come down. They do. and

12:02

I become these characters so that it

12:04

makes people feel something when they're watching

12:06

it. And you know, have you gone

12:08

to Comecon. Yeah, you.

12:10

Know when you go people out. You.

12:13

Are my childhood you ira You know

12:15

I didn't have friends till the celery

12:17

I thought I was the only person

12:19

like me till this show and then

12:21

when you realize the impact that you

12:24

have on people it's so beautiful so

12:26

I consider it like this are beautiful

12:28

gift that I was given to Like

12:30

share, love and light and like. I

12:33

feel so lucky every time I book

12:35

something. Even now I started most thirteen,

12:37

I'm fifty one. Even now I'd like

12:39

dropped to the floor, hands up to

12:41

the sky. I. Liked as I

12:43

move it, it's I do. So. When you'd

12:45

just dropped into that character. Or

12:48

moment ago. And. And you just

12:50

said they live in your head like. Is.

12:53

A busy in your home or yeah

12:55

it was observed is very busy. And

12:57

I think a lot of people have busy brains,

12:59

but unless they have them and all the different

13:01

voices, And it's

13:03

not that they're all speaking at the same time, it's

13:06

said they live there in their own little faces, and

13:08

when it's their turn to come out and play. It's

13:10

not like I. Do anything. It's

13:13

like breathing. I

13:15

can't really describe it, they just come

13:17

out. I know, I know when it's

13:19

my it's this characters turn and I

13:21

also know specific right? Like I've played

13:23

maybe five, six, seven, ten versions of

13:25

Harley Rights Cel Holly plan on a

13:28

video game might be like you know

13:30

ecstatic kids as and she likes more

13:32

like action and then on a kid

13:34

says maybe like. A.

13:37

And see like really hyper And then I played

13:39

her very dark and so when I get a

13:41

script well when they are dark Harley. Well.

13:44

I did a very dark Harley and she

13:46

wasn't even. Ah, the same like

13:48

she was like a Boston. Highly like

13:50

it was like a lower. Leg.

13:53

And she was very evil. But what I'm saying

13:55

is when I see the script and read. ah

13:58

you know the character descriptions and whatever

14:00

is going on in the stage directions I know

14:03

exactly which version of that to tap into like

14:05

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14:11

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it ever get confusing? Meaning, is there

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ever a point when you get a

17:16

script and it's like, oh, which, how,

17:18

what, it's sounding too much like this

17:20

other one or do they feel so

17:22

distinctive? It's never confusing

17:24

when it's an established character. And sometimes people

17:26

were like, can you do like Timmy Turner

17:28

on this show? And I'm like, no, Timmy

17:30

Turner lives on the Fairly Ad parents. So

17:32

we're not going to do that. But I,

17:35

at one point was playing like five

17:38

different tragic 16 year old

17:40

girls. Another point I was playing like five

17:42

different 10 year old boys and each of

17:44

them had to have something distinct about them

17:46

or I couldn't live with myself because they're

17:49

their own entity for sure. So

17:51

the only

17:53

time it gets confusing is if there's like a guest star

17:55

and you know how it is sometimes like, oh, can you

17:57

do this extra character? And then somehow that extra character just

18:00

comes back and you don't remember what it is, but they play it

18:02

for you. That's the only time it gets confusing. What

18:04

about not in a script? Like,

18:06

I'm still stuck with all these characters

18:08

residing in your head. And

18:11

like, do they appear

18:13

when you're not working? All the time.

18:16

But, but it's more like I do voices all the

18:18

time. I do voice, like if you're friends with me,

18:20

if you're dating me, you're gonna hear not just

18:23

this. This

18:25

is what I'm the most interested in

18:27

is like, when in your regular life,

18:29

are you basically processing the world? And

18:31

because all these characters are living in

18:33

your head, like certain

18:36

experiences are gonna drop this personality. I'm

18:38

not saying you're multiple personalities. I'm not

18:40

saying that. But

18:42

I am. I think like you

18:44

can't help if you know these characters so deeply,

18:46

they become a bit of a part of you.

18:49

And how could you not like we, we all

18:52

have these different personas that we drop into. You

18:55

just happen to have a wider

18:57

repertoire and they each have personalities,

18:59

which I think is just awesome.

19:02

They do. And it's a very

19:07

symbiotic relationship. So

19:09

that there's a lot of me in bubbles and there's

19:12

a lot of bubbles in me. And

19:14

I'm probably most like bubbles

19:17

because I'm super sweet.

19:19

I want everyone to be friends. And then

19:21

if you piss me off, I will go hardcore. Like

19:24

that's me in person, right? I'm just

19:27

usually very light, positive attraction. Let's

19:30

go do fun shit. Everybody come to my

19:32

house, but like, okay, I will kick your

19:34

ass if I have to. That's like, right?

19:36

That's me. So, and then there

19:38

are other characters that feel very, pardon me,

19:41

Twilight Sparkle is like super

19:43

part of me. And when I first read for

19:45

that part, so Powerpuff Girls was

19:47

created by a man named Craig McCracken and he

19:49

is married to Lauren Faust who worked on that

19:51

show. And she created My Little Pony, Friendship is

19:53

Magic, which is the biggest fandom

19:55

I've ever seen in my life. And

19:58

it was unbelievable. and

20:00

so fun, but that character came about because

20:03

she came to my house and said, hey,

20:05

I'm putting together a pitch for a new

20:07

version of the ponies with more depth in

20:10

their characters as opposed to just selling toys.

20:12

And I think that's why it spoke to so many people.

20:15

And she's she had me read three different characters

20:17

and just

20:20

for the pitch presentation and she said as soon

20:22

as she heard me do Twilight, she knew I

20:24

was going to be that character. And I think

20:26

it's because part of me is very similar to

20:28

her. And another same thing. She's always like ready

20:30

to leave the pack. She wants everyone to be

20:32

friends. She wants to do everything right. She loves

20:34

to read. She's like, loves magic.

20:36

I love magic. Like when you say, is

20:38

it, you know, a part of

20:40

you, like there is a part

20:42

of me, like let's get weird a minute,

20:45

that feels like these creatures are sentient.

20:47

And so like when someone says

20:50

to me, I wanted

20:53

to end my life till I met Raven

20:55

and they're crying and

20:57

they're hugging me. The best story

20:59

ever was this woman, her daughter was dressed as

21:01

Raven and she was talking and talking and talking

21:03

and talking. And I looked over and her mom

21:06

was crying and a lot of people cry when

21:08

they made me. But this

21:10

was like unusual crying. So I went

21:12

over to see if she was okay.

21:14

And she said my daughter hasn't spoken in

21:17

five years. She's severely autistic. And when she

21:19

heard you were coming, she has not stopped

21:21

talking. And

21:24

so I feel like

21:26

a conduit for these, you

21:28

know, I know that sounds weird, but it's like, it can't

21:31

just be me. Like I feel

21:33

so lucky that something I did help someone like

21:35

that. And I hear stories like that all the time. So

21:39

I mean, maybe I'm a crazy person, but they

21:41

feel very sentient to me. They feel like they

21:44

matter a lot of my major characters. And

21:46

also I feel very lucky that there's been

21:48

so many major characters, right? Not many people

21:51

can say I was Batgirl and Harley and

21:53

Timmy Turner and Bubbles and Namas Minnis and

21:55

all these characters that really touched people's lives.

21:57

Raven, Twilight Sparkle. Like these are very important

21:59

to. people around the world and when

22:01

I go to cons around the world people like oh

22:03

you go for the money no

22:06

the money is nice but that

22:08

exchange of light magic and energy

22:10

is so beautiful and

22:12

important to me and sometimes people like you

22:14

know you shouldn't hug everybody or you shouldn't

22:17

do this how can I not

22:19

hug someone when they come to me and said my

22:21

childhood was so hard and

22:24

fairly odd parents was the only thing that got

22:26

my dad to sit down with me and like

22:28

can I have a hug no like no you

22:31

know I just it's a beautiful

22:33

exchange I just had a con two weeks

22:36

ago and a guy was a grown man

22:38

was crying to me saying his daughter was

22:40

born autistic and very young they

22:42

found out she was very autistic and couldn't really connect and

22:44

he's like I was so worried that I would never connect

22:47

with her I didn't know how to connect with my kid

22:49

and then I was feeling like a terrible person and then

22:51

we sat down and watched my little pony and that's

22:54

our thing and we communicate through

22:56

that and like thank you and he's bawling

22:59

there's something that that Jonathan mentioned you

23:01

know it's known as dissociative identity disorder

23:03

now instead of multiple personality disorder but

23:06

it's something that even people who do like

23:08

internal family systems work where you look

23:10

at different parts of you there are

23:12

different parts of us that have different

23:15

personas and they have different needs and

23:17

you know in some of the really interesting research

23:20

on people with dissociative identity

23:22

disorder sometimes personalities will have

23:25

different blood pressure they'll have

23:27

completely different physiological things

23:29

meaning you know when people split into parts

23:31

it's usually because of trauma and you know

23:34

really really fragmented things but the

23:36

notion that there are different

23:38

parts of us that that live in

23:40

us is not outside of the

23:42

realm of understanding and it doesn't just have

23:44

to be in clinical situations but there's something

23:47

you said that I really want it since

23:49

we're getting deep there's something I

23:51

want to dig into a little more you said

23:53

that you understood from a young age that you

23:55

could manipulate your voice and

23:57

I wonder if that ever felt like

24:00

also an emotional ability not to be

24:02

manipulative but to be able to change I

24:04

mean as actors that's what we have to

24:07

do we have to make you

24:09

believe something we have to make you feel

24:11

good we have to make you comfortable right

24:13

and for me I had a lot of

24:15

that in my home of origin I don't

24:17

know if you did but the

24:19

notion of maybe that's

24:21

part of this sort of gift as

24:24

you said is that when you're given

24:26

the ability to be a performer to

24:28

make people feel something it really is

24:30

the ability to to change

24:33

where you are for other

24:35

people's in some cases comfort

24:37

and sometimes that means for

24:39

their enjoyment or their entertainment but I wonder

24:41

if you can talk a little bit about

24:43

if you notice that kind of outside of

24:45

your artistic abilities I

24:48

know like when you said that the

24:50

first thing that felt true is to

24:52

make people laugh I really like that

24:54

especially with my mom my mom was

24:56

my kindred spirit and my

24:58

mom was very heavy and her whole

25:01

life was bullied and I never saw

25:03

her eat to excess she's first-generation

25:05

Russian Jew grew up in a catering

25:07

world where I'm sure they made not

25:10

great choices growing up but she wasn't

25:12

like someone that over eight and every

25:15

one in her family had thyroid and diabetes

25:17

and problems right and she

25:20

was in a tremendous amount of pain both physically

25:22

and emotionally children would laugh at her adults would

25:24

laugh at her kids would come to me at

25:26

school and say your mom's the fattest person ever

25:29

and I would see her cry and I would hold

25:31

her hand and tell her she's the most beautiful person

25:33

I've ever seen and she is and I

25:35

miss her so much like I miss helping her

25:37

you know like I miss being an arm for

25:39

her in her later life she had horrible osteoarthritis

25:41

she used to say it was like stepping on

25:43

a knife and like the

25:46

fact that she had to endure people

25:48

making fun of this beautiful soul made

25:50

me so sad and when I made

25:52

her laugh when I made this very

25:54

sad human laugh she took such joy

25:56

in seeing me perform on stage on

25:58

a show on

26:00

a cartoon, whatever it was, in

26:02

person, making voices, doing funny things.

26:04

My mom's laugh was like my

26:06

external success for sure,

26:08

for sure. So probably to bring joy

26:10

and make people laugh. And also, like

26:12

you said, to make people believe things.

26:15

Like last, uh, over COVID I did

26:17

an on-camera series in Toronto that was

26:19

basically, if Harley was a mom, that

26:21

was this character. And it

26:23

was a wonderful part because I usually

26:25

play like, you know, cute teacher or

26:27

bitch slut, whatever. Like I have roles

26:29

that I tend to book, but like

26:32

third on the call sheet at 49 was

26:34

kind of awesome. And it

26:36

was with Adrian Moore from Orange is the

26:38

New Black. And, um, it

26:41

was from Netflix Canada, aired here on IMDB TV.

26:43

So I don't know where you can find it,

26:45

but to play this like terrible

26:48

person that was basically like, you

26:50

know, using her daughter to date some kid

26:53

to sell drugs. Like it was like

26:55

really crazy. And I don't know that I

26:57

looked so beautiful, but it was a

26:59

performance that I was very proud of

27:01

in terms of acting and believability and making

27:03

people feel, because when you can make

27:05

people feel empathy for the

27:07

villain and the bad character, I think

27:10

that's like a really wonderful thing. And

27:12

so I do think there's something about

27:14

making people feel something and making people

27:17

have empathy for other people. Like I'm

27:19

a very, very empathetic soul. I think

27:21

most real actors

27:23

are right. We know how other people

27:25

feel. We care about how other people

27:28

feel. And we want to help portray that and

27:30

help that when I was doing the Rugrats episode, you

27:32

know, like whenever the Rugrats would

27:34

go into adventures, you'd see the adventures.

27:37

And there was an episode where the kids

27:39

were at a car dealership and they said,

27:41

let's pretend we're under, under the sea. And

27:44

all the fish were people and this

27:46

heavyset lady walks by and you know, Tommy Pickles

27:48

was like, look, there's a whale. And I stopped tape

27:50

and I went to the producers and I'm like,

27:52

can we make it a muscle man so

27:54

that we don't perpetuate that hatred?

27:57

And they're like, no problem. So

28:00

like a big part of me is

28:02

wanting to keep perpetuating that. I

28:05

wonder if you can talk a little bit more about that. I

28:10

think our culture kind of

28:12

goes back and forth with how we

28:14

feel about clinical

28:16

discussions of obesity and BMI and all

28:18

these things. I

28:20

wonder if you can talk a little bit

28:23

about sort of what you see in terms

28:25

of like what is body positivity? What

28:28

does that look like if you think about

28:30

kind of your mom's experience and especially

28:32

being the child of someone who's

28:35

receiving all of this hatred

28:38

and bullying? I mean, it's not even

28:40

bullying. It's ignorance

28:42

and it's horrible. I wonder

28:44

if you have any sort of reflections,

28:47

especially as your career is so much

28:49

about appearance. Like it has to be

28:51

for us, even if you're a voiceover actor, right, as your

28:53

primary work. That's

28:55

so true. It's so true. It's

28:57

so important because also sometimes they want you to do press.

28:59

Also they draw a character to look like you a little

29:01

bit more or create a character for you. So

29:04

it is an important piece. And I do remember as

29:06

a child watching a movie of the week and saying,

29:09

Oh, I want to be that girl. I

29:11

want to be on a movie. I want to be in Teen

29:13

Beat magazine. I want to do all that. I mean, I was

29:15

a huge fan of yours, by the way. The

29:18

moment I saw you in beaches,

29:21

I was obsessed. I

29:24

think I told you that the first time

29:26

I met you. Like you're a super magical,

29:28

talented, insane being. And also,

29:30

by the way, I grew up with a sister

29:33

who was very different mentally. She

29:35

had a brain injury at

29:38

one years of age and comes across

29:40

like someone on the Asperger's scale

29:43

and was also bullied her entire life. And

29:45

I would have her back at school. So

29:47

I had the experience of watching someone different

29:49

and someone obese and what that looks like

29:52

in terms of being mean for no reason.

29:54

Right. Very, very good humans.

29:56

These are sweet, caring humans that

29:58

would do anything. for you. And

30:01

I think it did give me a base

30:05

and an understanding that maybe someone else wouldn't

30:07

about why you shouldn't say that to someone

30:09

or be mean to someone or make a

30:11

judgment call, right? Like I said, I never

30:13

send my mom overeat. You look at a

30:15

big person like, oh, they must eat all

30:17

day. But we all have that friend that's

30:20

this skinny that can eat french fries and

30:22

cake all day and never gain weight and

30:24

they don't realize how lucky they are. This

30:26

is a million different bodies. When you go

30:28

to the beach, there are not two bodies

30:30

the same. I've definitely

30:32

struggled with borderline eating disorders, starving

30:35

myself, believe me, anything to feel

30:37

like I look good enough for

30:39

the camera. And it's very challenging.

30:41

And if I say today, I

30:43

don't struggle with it, I'd be

30:45

lying. I don't feel

30:47

good if I don't work out every day. It's, uh,

30:50

I like to feel good and look at it and

30:52

keep inside and outside healthy. So it's a very big

30:54

part of me. And I also saw growing up what

30:57

happens if you don't take care of

30:59

yourself and exercise young, right? You can't just

31:01

start at 60 and I mean,

31:03

maybe you can, but it's harder, right? Like it's

31:05

better to sort of try to maintain. And I

31:07

don't have a perfect body. I've like never loved

31:09

my legs, you know, there are girls that could

31:12

go out with a little mini skirt. This never

31:14

been me. I just, I danced when I was

31:16

a kid, I'm five foot two, I've got, you

31:18

know, bigger size, I've got a Jew booty. I'm

31:20

like, I'm not a waif, right? And

31:23

I never like, I don't

31:25

want to be, I'm more happy in my

31:27

skin now and go, this is me. I,

31:29

you know, I'm pretty happy with it, but

31:31

I do appreciate the women

31:33

who put themselves out there at all sizes

31:36

to make people see beauty comes in all

31:38

sizes. And thank God, like what I find

31:40

beautiful isn't what someone else, I mean, sometimes

31:42

it is that like, you know, some people

31:44

really like people with a lot more meat

31:47

on them. Some people really like people more

31:49

slender. So like, thank God that's open. Like,

31:51

love everybody. Let everyone do what they're going

31:54

to do. Don't judge people. I just, I

31:56

despise bullying on such a big level because

31:58

it's ingrained in me. me in my, it's

32:01

in my bloodstream, right? Like to

32:04

be mean to people for no reason, to hate

32:06

an entire group of people. Like all

32:09

of that where you hate an entire

32:11

group, you hate fat people, you hate

32:13

LGBTQ, you hate black people, Jewish people,

32:15

Muslim people, you hate Asian people, you

32:17

hate whatever you hate, to hate an

32:19

entire group is for the one same

32:21

reason. Do you know what it is?

32:25

There isn't one. You

32:28

can hate someone who wronged you in business and

32:30

love. You can hate someone

32:32

else, okay. But to hate an entire

32:34

group to have a judgment against an

32:36

entire group makes zero sense and shouldn't

32:38

be tolerated. And everybody should learn that

32:40

we are all one person and should love each other and see

32:43

each other and help each other. That's what we're here to do.

32:45

I love that. I

32:48

wonder if you'll talk a little bit more about

32:52

moving away from Toronto. How

32:55

old were you when you came to LA? I

32:59

was 20, 1920. I had, I always wanted to come to

33:01

LA, always. Like I knew I would

33:03

always come

33:06

here. And I got

33:09

into college, I got into Amden, New York, and a college

33:11

in Toronto. And I booked three movies and I had to

33:13

choose. And I chose movies.

33:16

And I had three

33:18

callbacks for Toronto's Beauty and the Beast for

33:20

Belle. And I didn't get it. And I

33:22

was so devastated that I'm like, I'm

33:25

going to LA. And

33:28

I came and I didn't really know anyone. I knew

33:30

the guy that played my dad on

33:32

a sitcom who has now passed, he was a comic named

33:34

Mike McDonald and his wife Bonnie let me stay with them

33:36

in Glendale. And I was there for

33:38

a few months. It was so sweet of them. Big

33:41

earthquake was my second week, 94. Yeah.

33:44

And it was very, very

33:46

hard to leave my mom because, you know, I

33:48

was there for her so completely, both

33:50

physically and emotionally. And we are so close. It

33:52

was very, very hard to leave. And my sister

33:54

and my dad and my friends and a career

33:57

that was consistent. It was hard, but I knew

33:59

it was I knew that's what I had to

34:01

do. There wasn't ever a question on that. And

34:06

I think, you know, after that, the

34:08

only other person I really knew well was also

34:11

from our same high school, Jonathan Nev Campbell.

34:14

And we got an apartment together. She moved

34:16

down. Yeah, and wore my shirt to

34:18

audition for party five and booked it. So I think

34:20

it's the shirt. I think it was the shirt.

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to kind of support yourself? Because I'm always

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38:33

see you with this incredibly impressive resume now

38:35

and you're a grown up and you know,

38:37

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38:42

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38:44

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38:46

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38:48

or were you kind of on a role

38:50

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38:55

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38:57

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38:59

else I would try or do. Like I always knew

39:01

that was what I had to do. And

39:03

like I said, we didn't have a ton of

39:05

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39:09

sister till I was 16. I wasn't someone that

39:11

came from a lot of money. We were fine.

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mean, there was a bathtub and, you

39:19

know, it wasn't like a big

39:21

cool house. It was like, it wasn't until

39:23

I was like 16, I

39:25

kept begging and we finally got a really shitty shower. It

39:28

was like trickle, trickle. I always had long hair.

39:30

It was terrible. And

39:33

then when I moved to LA, I was super

39:36

broke, like eviction notice broke. And

39:38

I remember at one

39:40

point crying in my apartment by myself

39:43

thinking like nobody

39:45

knows I'm here right now in this moment. You

39:47

know, when you have those moments where like nobody

39:49

knows this little sphere that's around me of sadness

39:52

right now that I'm sitting in. Nobody

39:54

knows that I'm here. Nobody cares. I

39:57

can't pay the bills. I can't, I can't. He

40:00

basically my mom or dad is any money

40:02

that oh hello money? Like maybe I should

40:04

go back to Canada because at least I

40:06

know I will work there. They know me

40:08

there and it's a much smaller pool of

40:11

actors in Toronto and I've been working since

40:13

I'm thirty. Maybe I should go back, but

40:15

I really wanted to stay. Also the weather

40:17

so much better. I

40:20

really really want to say it. Like I

40:22

said, Marcia Goodman called me and asked me

40:24

to do gadget. gadget was like kept me

40:26

her. What kept me here is ah. I

40:28

had a few little on camera things and

40:30

then. I

40:33

booked the Power Puff girls. And

40:35

Fat Girl which was huge alongside Kevin

40:37

Conroy and Mark Hamill. And I'm also

40:39

a hundred episodes of One Hundred and

40:41

One Dalmatians which never happens. Back me

40:43

up your mind, it was a guarantee.

40:45

Hundred up As a know, that's not

40:47

even a thing. Yeah, so those three

40:49

happened at the same time and then

40:51

Hollywood was like his as girl. Wow,

40:53

That's what kind of kept me here.

40:55

Those three. And. This

40:58

was before you were married like you

41:00

were still just wow. Does. Appear

41:02

like divine intervention to have that all

41:04

have been in that moment. I've

41:06

had a lot of moments that celts. Like.

41:09

I. Had help for sure. Ah, one

41:11

of the most. I.

41:13

Think important ones to me just because she's

41:15

so important is. Like I

41:17

said when I was doing like. All

41:20

these tragic girls like back girl is

41:22

like my own voice right? is very

41:24

real on and not like a party

41:26

you know she was. Sort.

41:28

Of serious and on the darker side

41:30

of. A teenage girl as

41:33

also playing highly. An Extreme Ghostbusters.

41:35

Very dark characters. sure you know

41:37

where get on. Ah, Detention

41:39

yeah detention they get I wasn't. It

41:41

ends and with yeah I designs and

41:43

yelled at and so I thought well

41:45

I'll probably bookstore fire because the character

41:47

descriptions said she was a grownup. Bubbles.

41:50

Hiller. I'm a grown up. I

41:52

am literally bubbles and and grown up. So

41:54

I'm going to books that part it's and

41:56

they still enemies. Read for Raven So I

41:58

read it. just run, lying on my acting

42:00

skills, putting myself in those moments. and of

42:02

course it sounded like that girl. Which.

42:05

Was for the same People are like Obama

42:07

guy. Yeah that's and I'm walking past. A

42:10

out of the recording studio to were

42:12

producers, writers, casting engineers are in the

42:14

bay and I look at Andrea Ramona

42:16

like tonight. try something else and she

42:18

likes her and I don't know where

42:20

it came from. God shot angels out.

42:22

what are we want to call it?

42:24

I just had this idea that we're

42:26

all whenever she spoke with her, my

42:28

voice. But

42:33

that is what bugs. The part is that like

42:35

I hadn't I didn't know before I was going

42:37

in that I was gonna do that. Same

42:40

thing with Ah Hundred One Dalmatians. I was

42:42

auditioning for a chicken that thought she was

42:44

a dog and the character description was she

42:46

was like cyber and gets flustered and lay

42:48

before I went in right before I called

42:50

my mom I'm like have this crazy idea

42:52

she like why am I wouldn't be funny

42:54

that like since you so hyper that every

42:56

time to read a beer a Pc gets

42:58

caught she started plucking like Woody Me too

43:00

much growing jobs would make represents even you

43:02

ask me why. To

43:05

the Jets do that. I mean that the Eagles a

43:07

level of. It's a level of

43:09

independent creativity that I think a lot of

43:11

people don't. Think. About when they

43:13

think about you know the actual performance

43:15

level of voiceover actors and you know I

43:18

I've got one of your the upper

43:20

to get. Us

43:22

out i'm not an asset is question to as

43:24

I used to lot more voice. Overs when I

43:27

was younger and. You know, I used

43:29

to get asked that and I always had to see. A

43:31

picture at. Always had to see a picture

43:33

of it if they didn't have a drawing.

43:35

If they didn't have anything, it was. And

43:38

it was impossible. But that

43:40

was what. Does. It like

43:42

there was usually physicality that went to

43:44

it and it's not unlike playing a

43:46

character role which not every actor gets

43:48

character role. Meaning if you're more of

43:50

a classic leading lady are leading gentlemen.

43:52

you often don't play character role, you

43:54

play like a handsome lead or you

43:56

play like the pretty girl that everybody

43:59

wants to date. But for those of

44:01

us who have like. Character roles

44:03

that we do. it's much more similar

44:05

to meet to voiceover. You really have

44:07

to to craft that I'm. I.

44:10

Wonder if you can talk about. Like.

44:12

Manifesting and you know, kind

44:14

of the positivity that you.

44:17

Have. There seems to be this kind

44:20

of running seem of you having a sort

44:22

of. Confidence. That feels

44:24

like it comes from somewhere else and

44:26

I wondered, does it feel. Does.

44:28

It feel like intuition. Does it

44:30

feel like you're able to harness

44:33

something what is manifesting for you.

44:36

Well. Like thank you for

44:38

saying that and seeing that

44:41

does it feel true And

44:43

ah. At one

44:45

point, My. Ex mother in

44:47

law showed me the movie The Secrets. And.

44:50

I was like okay. Oh.

44:53

Ah, Are you know this? I

44:55

do this by nature. Irony: Know that I've

44:57

known as my whole life I knew and

44:59

outside as gonna move to Los Angeles and

45:01

be a successful actors. I knew I had

45:03

a house or the shower. I knew I

45:06

wouldn't worry about money. I knew I'd make

45:08

people happy. I always knew these things. I've

45:10

never been someone to worry about money and

45:12

I think that's a really big thing. Right

45:14

when you start learning about the laws of

45:16

attraction they tell you, don't worry, don't say.

45:18

I wish I had. I want to have

45:20

to that if you replay that in a

45:23

year. What's the message? I wish I had.

45:25

I wish I had. The laws of

45:27

attraction are feeling like you already have

45:29

it, Not just saying it, thinking it's

45:31

feeling like get and then trying to

45:33

parlay that energy into your daily life.

45:35

And. Let's. Pretend it works

45:37

fifty percent of the time, forty percent of

45:40

the time. Better than never.

45:43

With the. People that

45:45

are constantly thinking everything bad happens

45:47

to me. I'm always I'm lucky

45:49

I'm always say they are. And.

45:52

They keep bringing that on themselves and

45:54

I feel bad for people stuck in

45:56

that. I've been stuck in depression. I've

45:58

been stuck in doubt. And

46:00

then this part of me that knows I'm

46:02

here to spread love and light resurfaces. You

46:04

Are Here to do this. When

46:07

I feel insecure, I'll let the strongest

46:09

parts of myself take the wheel. Am

46:12

I gonna get let Harley annulment many

46:14

ways in Ireland? Someone else take that

46:16

for a minute and then that will

46:18

bring me back into my highest version

46:20

of myself that I'm a very big

46:23

believer of. Checking in with yourself. I

46:25

listen to. Meditations, All the

46:27

time that I love, I can send them

46:29

my favorites that put me in a place

46:31

of feeling good and inciting the best things

46:34

that we have. I'm. On

46:36

this planet to you. I really do live

46:38

that way and. I

46:40

I, I just. I. I

46:42

I don't know I I rely on it a

46:45

lot I and it's important to me to keep

46:47

thinking positive and spreading love and light that the

46:49

way her to do. And I

46:51

just I want to clarify because I don't think you

46:54

as I don't think this is what you. Meant. But

46:56

I just want to clarify the notion is

46:58

not that. People.

47:00

I mean, I guess there's some

47:02

element of. You. Know. You.

47:06

Know what are we attracting right? what

47:08

are we creating? But I think also

47:10

you know for people who who are

47:13

struggling raid with. Depressive things like that.

47:15

The notion is not. You did this to

47:17

yourself as a lovely not I have a

47:19

really big problem. I have a big problem

47:21

with that. I am. I don't First of

47:23

all, everyone. not everyone knows everything. You could

47:25

sit with someone who's like I speak the

47:28

dose that I know. this happens when you

47:30

die and they could still be full of

47:32

poop. or that's their experience or whatever it

47:34

is. Nobody here on this planet right now

47:36

knows everything. We're here to learn. Nobody knows.

47:39

What? Happens when you die or how whether

47:41

or not the laws of the trucks and

47:43

work or whatever. And there are a lot

47:45

of people putting out videos that I think

47:47

are very destructive. I do not think you

47:49

invite bad things. I think that should be

47:51

removed from that information. I don't think you

47:54

asked for your husband to have an affair.

47:56

I don't think you ask for your kid

47:58

to have a disease. I don't. The dog

48:00

that amazed to is as it are

48:02

no downtime that people in the world

48:04

and I do think sometimes people that

48:06

are like obsessively believing in whatever video

48:08

they seem that oh I must have

48:11

brought the bad on to myself know

48:13

you did not bring balance yourself. I

48:15

do believe that positive thoughts have more

48:17

power and maybe you could speak to

48:19

this because they say they scientifically tested

48:21

this that positive thing positive thinking seems

48:23

to bring more energy and I just

48:25

think that. If you

48:27

don't believe in something bigger, if you don't

48:30

believe that you can try to make yourself

48:32

better, it is harder to manifest good things.

48:34

But I don't think anyone should feel like

48:36

they brought on a bad situation unless you

48:38

physically did something bad. But I just I

48:41

don't believe that. No, I don't know what

48:43

that is. I, I don't understand it, and

48:45

it's heartbreaking to see someone you love suffer,

48:47

but I don't think they brought it upon

48:49

themselves, so that makes sense. And we know

48:52

that the brain just has have a better

48:54

capacity for resilience. When. It is

48:56

geared towards positive. Thinking mean that's

48:58

literally. What you know it's science is

49:00

proving that's consistent with what a lot

49:02

of people. Like you intuitively new

49:04

rights. When you say there's more

49:07

power to positive thinking, it's because

49:09

it causes the ability for expansion

49:11

for more synaptic connections, Likes for

49:13

your brain to literally access more,

49:16

and in particular, to access more

49:18

of the sort of chemistry that

49:20

then perpetuates more positivity. Another

49:22

way of saying that, but I think it's a very good. Clarification.

49:27

Is when we say resilience. What we're

49:29

saying is like you have your problem

49:31

solving abilities. Right And right.

49:33

If you're suffering and you know that

49:35

side of you exists. And. I have

49:37

suffered. Not to say everything's been beautiful

49:39

for me has been very hard times.

49:41

I've had moments where I get why

49:43

people want to end things. I've been

49:45

stuck in cycles of sadness, depression, but

49:47

I think if you have that piece

49:49

of you to hold on, I want

49:51

to get back to that feeling. that

49:53

person that mental state. I think it's

49:55

helpful to anchor yourself in the best

49:57

case scenario rather than the worst case.

50:00

Right when you will feel well and

50:02

you let a web web md you're

50:04

dying of everything like automatically go to

50:06

the worst case scenario if you try

50:08

to every day automatically Every day though

50:10

did the best case scenario. I think

50:12

slowly you can pull yourself from those

50:14

things. I feel very fortunate that I

50:16

had a strong base. To. To

50:18

pull myself to to get myself out

50:21

of cards situations. though

50:23

he met his arguments on it and. What?

50:25

Yes, I want it. and I think it's

50:28

important to clarify the science of. Manifesting.

50:31

Or at least part of it. You. Know

50:33

what does it mean to actually put good into

50:35

the world? And good Will come back as. A.

50:38

I. I saw the secret. I saw

50:40

many of these teachers and some of it

50:42

I think is botched. As you said, you know.

50:45

That. We bring things on ourselves but

50:47

what we know and and in other

50:49

experts at have come on the show.

50:51

For example Susan David She talks about

50:54

how when we are facing. Distress.

50:57

We. Have cognitive narrowly. Meaning.

51:00

That we default to the

51:02

most uptight, constricted parts of

51:04

ourselves. It's very hard to

51:06

find. Solutions. In that

51:08

space, we have a lot more black

51:10

and white thinking vs. when mine is

51:12

talking about resilience, what resilience means is

51:14

actually having a lot more cognitive flexibility

51:16

that allows us to see it's not

51:18

this or that it may be somewhere

51:20

in between and that in between might

51:22

be the solution to like for example,

51:24

or and I'm just you know, I

51:27

don't know what happens for you and

51:29

a moment where you find a character

51:31

or you find a solution. But for

51:33

example, if you were in the booze

51:35

and you saw something like the overweight

51:37

a character. And you just said stop.

51:39

You. Wouldn't have the resources to find

51:42

the solution vs if you are.

51:44

Channeling that part of yourself that knows

51:47

there are resources that knows that you

51:49

could say something, that Earth holds the

51:51

possibility of a solution. Therefore, you manifest

51:53

a solution because you are bringing more

51:55

of yourself. You are bringing that energy

51:58

to be available for the city. Rio

52:00

and you're able to interact and. Find.

52:02

A solution. Yeah. I

52:04

think that's true. Awesome I am. I meant

52:06

to. Yes, Yes, that's true

52:09

to you To just that's true. Jonathan

52:11

just said you only live in in

52:13

aliens is chasing alliance. You also give

52:15

you a yes that's true I'm because

52:18

I forgot says earlier visualizing visual. Ah.

52:20

A visual representation of the character and I

52:22

have an audition. I and I am. I

52:25

do all my additions right here. I'm in

52:27

Melbourne City right now. I'll put the character

52:29

or side by side and look back and

52:31

forth. And we do get physical in the

52:33

booth. We do have a physical thing that

52:35

happens and so Jonathan back to your point.

52:37

when you visualize yourself out of a situation

52:40

I see, I do sometimes see those characters.

52:42

I do have a physical thing that happens

52:44

to me that can help me. And

52:47

I'm I'm lucky that that part of me

52:49

is so strong. And. Lucky. I

52:52

must say to this is what I'm saying

52:54

but I'm going to be this person just

52:56

for the sake of argument that like that's

52:58

naive and like lucky you like you were

53:00

gifted with this positivity and like I what

53:02

if I was in and what if my

53:04

chemistry is like no no holes saddled with

53:06

it's viral like think you there are not

53:09

a way out It's hard work I think

53:11

you can work on it, will will enter

53:13

had we know right we know that medication

53:15

is not the only way to work on

53:17

it which used to be what Doctor Soldier

53:19

like oh you're not feeling like Harrys The.

53:21

They were gonna give you this pill

53:24

to make more thera hormones race assimilate

53:26

into are you married so marketing idea

53:28

no other when I saw thought of

53:30

what we're now learning and a lot

53:32

of was. A lot of what jonathan

53:34

than I do try and talk about and emphasize. On

53:37

this podcast is there are ways to

53:39

get outside of yourself. And. It doesn't

53:41

just have to be with pharmaceuticals and

53:43

it also doesn't just have to be

53:45

with Zilla. I have been like you

53:47

live in L a of micro dosing

53:49

that's why everyone's and as a good

53:51

mood a surplus as a scene of

53:53

the notion that meditation that you know

53:55

law of attraction stuff or you know

53:57

I was just have been revisiting. the

53:59

emotional free impact me a great. Even

54:01

though I'm in a hard place I'm

54:03

still loved by something bigger than all

54:05

of this and I'm like saying it's

54:07

a myself, I'm feeling like a ridiculous

54:09

person rights but. Those are ways

54:11

that we don't necessarily need to just

54:13

turn to a pharmaceutical or turned to

54:16

sell us. I been and be like

54:18

wasn't I'm all better but how can

54:20

I will create my own little men

54:22

as a citizen circle in my own

54:24

brain and I think like you know

54:26

this, I think it's a daily practice

54:28

Just like if you wanna dance you're

54:30

probably going to be dancing our the

54:33

if you wanna be fed you're gonna

54:35

work out every day and all of

54:37

your muscles and all of your body

54:39

parts need some kind of attention. Every

54:41

day. And I do think if you're just

54:43

like and so did today not tomorrow Network

54:45

on and everything ceremonies are Laurie Day and

54:48

not work on bringing yourself to a different

54:50

place. It makes a difference. I think it's

54:52

and for me even for me, it's daily

54:54

work to put myself in a good had

54:56

space. If I see something sad, if something

54:58

bad happens, I have to work on it.

55:00

I have to put on one of my

55:02

meditations. It's not just like hey, let's feel

55:05

good and everything's wonderful. I think it's work

55:07

just like. like I said, if you were

55:09

be a singer you take singing lessons. Are

55:11

gonna work out your voice every day. It's

55:13

like another piece of you that has to

55:15

be worked on everyday. Disagree. Point. To.

55:17

A winner's Circle Back to a word

55:19

that you use That A That struck

55:22

me. you use the word conduit. When.

55:24

Describing. Receiving:

55:28

These characters are are almost you didn't

55:30

use the word settling for that's what

55:32

I. Conjure when

55:34

you use the word, but you were a

55:36

conduit. To

55:40

have a sense of being plugged

55:42

into the universe do have a

55:44

sense of that. These characters exist

55:46

in a Rick Rubin talks about

55:48

the artist being a downloading and

55:50

having the workers at you know

55:52

fine tuning ones and tonight to

55:54

receive information and then. Translated:

55:57

I'm wondering if you could. Have.

55:59

That. Like you. I mean our

56:01

yes, Like. You guys are gonna

56:03

let her go. She's crazy. Yeah,

56:06

oh no, he's out of service.

56:08

as I know that we believe

56:10

this, We're just trying to see

56:12

if you do. Heck yes. Had.

56:14

Yes. I. Am tuned in. Those are my

56:16

people up in the stars. After this I get

56:19

to go back to my star planet and share

56:21

everything I learned. Weird. As you when

56:23

did you realize that this suit like is the

56:25

something that your parents instilled in you or did

56:27

you just always feel like you are one with

56:30

the universe? No way they didn't need drown an

56:32

hour Now they didn't That was not part of

56:34

the on. The thing that I had that was

56:36

important for who I am from my children from

56:38

my parents was unconditional love and support right? We

56:41

all know the person that wanted to be reformer,

56:43

the like know you're gonna be a doctor like

56:45

your dad and their wells the that now. So

56:47

I always had that support and that love and

56:49

ah but they did not teach me about. The

56:52

Laws of Attraction. Although my mom was super

56:55

magic, my mom's twin who was like a

56:57

second mom to me was also super magic

56:59

and we know I will a magic. Ah

57:01

well, we did. Ah, Ah

57:04

my. My mom's twin liked a lot

57:06

of ah sort of. Week

57:08

in like ah. Either,

57:11

not so much ceremony. although a

57:13

lot of the Jewish ceremony felt

57:15

to me like battling. My favorite

57:17

holiday has always been Passover because

57:19

I love all the little things

57:21

that you do. I like anything

57:23

and in any religion that brings

57:25

people together and you do ritual

57:27

together. I love that we let

57:29

the candles every Friday night. we'd

57:31

say prayers together on there was

57:33

a summer when I was ten

57:35

hours. Literally. Woke up

57:37

one day when outside and broke out

57:39

into rash and my entire body. And

57:42

we went to the doctor and I was

57:44

allergic to the sun. I

57:46

was allergic to the sun at ten. Couldn't.

57:50

Play with my friends at school. I was a

57:52

kid sitting under a tree while I must have

57:54

a good time and my mom came see. My.

57:57

Mom told me this later that she came

57:59

into my room one night and said I'm

58:01

your mom and I have mommy magic and

58:03

tomorrow you're going to wake up and not

58:05

be allergic to the sun And I wasn't

58:07

why it's. So.

58:09

He believed in magic, but I don't know

58:11

that it was portrayed to me as a

58:14

laws of attraction or. That. Things that

58:16

she does he was were Russia and. She's. Russian,

58:18

Jewish and a deathly believed in

58:20

were Hungarian. And there's witches Again,

58:22

like there's there's amazing bizarro stories

58:24

for food much all the hunger

58:26

and women. the yeah, I. Love

58:29

reading like ancient Jewish wiccan stuff too.

58:31

like very fascinating and like magic and

58:33

kabbalah and I find it very fascinating.

58:36

but I'm definitely a believer and is

58:38

you experience that era. You have two

58:40

sons who I knew and they were

58:43

little over there Now men did you

58:45

experience any of that kind of in.

58:48

Intuitive stuff when Motown? I mean I

58:50

think probably she was more magical in

58:52

some ways. But ah, me and my

58:54

boys do a lot of magic stuff

58:56

together. They're very magic like we all

58:58

like. I have these in my studio

59:00

at all times and I'm like I'm

59:02

going to do Raven that I'm going

59:04

to play with the purple dress. Simple

59:06

things I like. I like things and

59:08

traditions and ritual. I like, I like

59:10

it. I'll I'm not gonna play though.

59:13

Put a person someone. but I like

59:15

I like guy. And know I

59:17

like that. Seth I'm a kid like that stuff. Has.

59:19

My kids think I'm bat shit. Crazy.

59:23

At the i don't crystals everywhere and

59:25

I'm like a hold This you're feeling

59:27

agitated. Hold this Now that's crazy. a

59:30

glimmer father. but no I think that's

59:32

I think that's wonderful that that you

59:34

are able to access that. But I

59:36

absolutely did feel. Separate

59:39

from my ex husband's I'm

59:41

I Absolutely so I'm a

59:43

different sense of connection to

59:45

the universe once. Those Humans.

59:48

Exited my body Meanings: oh

59:50

I grew this person. They

59:52

experienced everything I experienced and

59:54

also everything. My mother experience because

59:57

that's when the eggs that made them

59:59

were actually. Born within my mom's.

1:00:01

Belly which I guess that's the story

1:00:03

you get. all of it's A but

1:00:06

I definitely felt. I mean to

1:00:08

to put. It plainly I felt

1:00:10

night. It was a magical experience.

1:00:13

To. Grow a human in my

1:00:15

body. It was on me

1:00:17

outside like that. Miraculous.

1:00:20

He. Felt very magic divine to me.

1:00:23

Super magical. Also, I

1:00:25

had many experiences that made me no.

1:00:27

Magic was real growing up and as

1:00:29

an adult my dad was obsessed with World

1:00:31

War Two. He was a child during

1:00:33

World war Two and he had on

1:00:35

in our basement a World War Two museum

1:00:37

set up that people would and see

1:00:39

and I have it now. I'm just trying

1:00:42

to figure out what to do an

1:00:44

exit on a just sell it off but

1:00:46

he has like sign Hitler documents and

1:00:48

over one hundred miles and postcards and

1:00:50

things from the holocaust and he had a

1:00:52

school room set up. He has. Early

1:00:54

edition of every comic and magazine and it

1:00:57

was very fascinating and at one time when

1:00:59

as zealand quite rebellious and didn't have my

1:01:01

own room I decided to sleep and stairs

1:01:03

even all that. Stuff. Was right there

1:01:05

and I got out of the shower

1:01:07

and I was standing naked for a

1:01:09

second and I hear sorry can't whistle

1:01:11

the one thing this voice bit but

1:01:13

I heard like my god you know

1:01:15

tackle with a capital and there is

1:01:17

no windows in his room. It's regarding

1:01:19

creepy and it kept doing it. I

1:01:21

read of London don't do that again.

1:01:25

I've I've long enough for sure. And

1:01:27

also since my mom passed like her,

1:01:29

let me know she's here. happened. Ah,

1:01:31

that's when I'm having a hard day.

1:01:33

My mom went by Lucy. She was born

1:01:35

the land but she went by the seats so

1:01:37

that's my like magic name as I see that

1:01:39

anywhere. I'll just ask for it. It'll

1:01:41

show up. I'm. Sheila I was I would ask

1:01:43

for the other day as a table read for

1:01:45

really cool movie really cool I am movies and

1:01:47

the girl was telling a story that her car

1:01:50

had been stolen and she's like there goes Lucy

1:01:52

down the street for car with named lucy and

1:01:54

then there's a lucy in the scrapped or like

1:01:56

okay thanks mom thinks are taken in. Yeah.

1:01:59

I'm a pretty. The magic believe are so like we're

1:02:01

on the same side with. So.

1:02:04

You. Believe in. Magic.

1:02:07

And. Some.

1:02:10

Things that. We don't

1:02:12

infinite crazy, but. What?

1:02:14

About the early will talk about angels

1:02:16

like being protected by angels. That is

1:02:19

saying. That is in your

1:02:21

wheelhouse. First. Of all. When

1:02:23

my mom died. I

1:02:26

was at her house and Toronto for the

1:02:28

funeral. I had a two month old Aden

1:02:30

in my hand and two and half year

1:02:32

old for me and. Ah,

1:02:34

My mom had a. What? They call them

1:02:37

many heart attack. Two weeks before she died and

1:02:39

I had a brand new baby we got maybe

1:02:41

and she said i know you know what this

1:02:43

means you don't need to com. And.

1:02:46

I was like how can I not com like what if governments

1:02:48

you that you had a week old baby don't need to com

1:02:50

and a week later she was dead. And

1:02:53

I was so heartbroken I was like screaming at

1:02:56

her why you tell me not to com and

1:02:58

I kept feeling like she was saying it wasn't

1:03:00

my time. I didn't know it was my time.

1:03:02

I don't know in my time and on my

1:03:04

ex had left early. it was just me and

1:03:07

the kids in her bedroom. And

1:03:09

my mom had one of those old

1:03:11

computers with the printers with a perforated

1:03:13

pages animals and ah, my son had

1:03:15

been playing with it. And when that

1:03:18

morning that we left the paper, the

1:03:20

paper from that printer was on the

1:03:22

floor with a pen beside it. And

1:03:24

there were two words on that piece

1:03:26

of paper and it is undeniably my

1:03:29

mother's penmanship. And it said Time Tara.

1:03:32

And I took it to mean two things.

1:03:34

One is she really didn't know was her

1:03:36

time and to is that time is so

1:03:38

precious on this planet so valuable you have

1:03:41

to laws every minute moment you can. You

1:03:43

have to live every moment. You can tell

1:03:45

people that you love them like it hit

1:03:47

me a very profound way and that was

1:03:49

the first appearance of her about. I've had

1:03:52

many from her so I think someone that

1:03:54

you feel very kindred to can com but

1:03:56

I also do believe in being that we

1:03:58

don't know that are helping. Many.

1:04:00

Of them aren't human arm you can meet

1:04:03

them in meditation. I I've met a few

1:04:05

and I think I think when you keep

1:04:07

putting out love into the world we're not

1:04:09

perfect world and make mistakes as or here

1:04:11

to do were learning but when you keep

1:04:13

trying to be good and put out there

1:04:15

in the world I think you get rewarded

1:04:18

with. Little. Nudges a little help from

1:04:20

your angels that are doing the best they can.

1:04:22

The help guide you. Learn everything you can.

1:04:24

Why you're here. That's beautifully

1:04:26

said. That's. Really beautifully said.

1:04:29

I. Wanted to have open up. I'm in

1:04:31

since we're talking about your mom. I'm. Jonathan

1:04:35

has has spoken on this podcast

1:04:37

pretty openly about his brother who

1:04:39

had a traumatic brain injury when

1:04:41

he was seventeen and Jonathan was

1:04:43

fourteen. And.

1:04:46

Daniels, a very, very special person, very

1:04:48

special part of our life and and

1:04:50

Johnson's wife and obviously. His entire family and

1:04:52

but it's something that when when he talks

1:04:54

about it, we get a lot of really

1:04:57

interesting comments and so am I. Wondered if

1:04:59

you might talk a little bit. About:

1:05:01

I'm your sister About that.

1:05:03

It's like. To advocate for someone

1:05:05

who's special? I'm an attorney. Oh

1:05:07

Jonathan, Do you wanna add anything

1:05:10

else to the. To.

1:05:12

The the sibling conversation. The

1:05:15

or for for me. I was younger

1:05:17

brother and when he had his accident

1:05:19

he was extremely disabled here to learn

1:05:22

to walk, talk recognize family again. The

1:05:24

prognosis for him was that you would

1:05:26

be a vegetable his whole life and

1:05:28

to slowly have fought against that and

1:05:30

relearned all of the things that I

1:05:32

just mentioned. But one of the hardest

1:05:34

parts was. As. He

1:05:36

became two and a half issue

1:05:39

years post injury. He tried to

1:05:41

go out in the world and

1:05:43

continue to. Be. A.

1:05:46

Young adult and at by that time I

1:05:48

sort of caught up. In

1:05:50

terms of what I was going through I

1:05:52

was you know in high school and gonna

1:05:54

parties and meeting people and then sometimes my

1:05:57

brother would be there and you know he

1:05:59

was very socially. Ah well

1:06:01

on an eclipse. Basically. I

1:06:03

people couldn't understand him. He had a very

1:06:05

intense speech impediment. He had physical disability so

1:06:07

you could see that he was different and

1:06:09

you know as he would try to connect

1:06:12

I would feel very protective of him. He.

1:06:15

Also had no filters based on his

1:06:17

head injury so you know he sees

1:06:19

hit on every woman said very inappropriate

1:06:21

things but also they couldn't understand him

1:06:23

because of the speech impediment but I

1:06:25

knew exactly what he was and. He.

1:06:28

Is clear now when he tells me he doesn't

1:06:30

like what I'm wearing a hat. my hair has

1:06:32

a faceless like. And here you

1:06:34

know he's extremely extroverted with no filters

1:06:36

and and is very shy, reserved, very

1:06:39

cautious, and so I'm being placed the

1:06:41

i'm mortified a lot of the time

1:06:43

ago, But I'm also very protective of

1:06:45

him and trying to. Come

1:06:48

and make sure he doesn't piss anyone off.

1:06:50

Make sure that the woman who sitting on

1:06:52

doesn't have a boyfriend who was said destroys

1:06:54

our. It's it's. it's. It's

1:06:57

it's. so I. I.

1:07:00

Know I know what it's like to sort

1:07:02

of have someone that you're looking out for

1:07:04

a lot and feeling that agree, Need that

1:07:07

extra support? And what's

1:07:09

that at? I think when you have

1:07:11

someone like that and many people do,

1:07:13

it gives you an empathy for it.

1:07:15

may when I see as a kid

1:07:17

it upon who obviously struggles in social

1:07:19

situations and you see them look on

1:07:21

their mom spaces that they're so proud

1:07:23

of them that they're speaking or there's

1:07:25

some sorry that they're doing this or

1:07:27

whatever. You know what that mom's gone

1:07:29

through that dad thought through siblings than

1:07:31

three and to make sure this very

1:07:33

special being is protected, not bullied and

1:07:35

I'm not getting himself in trouble. Like

1:07:37

you said, sometimes. I say things that

1:07:40

are awesome he now and I

1:07:42

think it gives us an empathy

1:07:44

for people were people who don't

1:07:46

grow up with it, don't have

1:07:48

that vase understanding of it and

1:07:50

can be off. Play or say

1:07:52

something mean that then makes that person's heart

1:07:54

hurt and I think that's what we want

1:07:56

to protect at all costs. Since my mom

1:07:59

died, my son. Completely agoraphobia Will not

1:08:01

leave the house so social interaction is not

1:08:03

that important in terms of in the outer

1:08:05

world. although she does like to be on

1:08:08

mine a lot on if it were up

1:08:10

to me she'd be in my house and

1:08:12

a guest house. You come with me all

1:08:14

Kansas is or people's he loves those people

1:08:17

have the same her and get like let

1:08:19

her meet her favorite Star Trek person or

1:08:21

whatever. I pay for

1:08:24

her whole life. I help her every single

1:08:26

day. She does not want to leave Toronto

1:08:28

so I got her a place there. And

1:08:30

I'll send her food everyday and I

1:08:32

make her do yoga with me on

1:08:34

Zoom every day and I try to

1:08:36

make her feel special. Have seen beautiful

1:08:38

as much as I can become the

1:08:40

world's cruel. World. Crow parents are

1:08:43

cruel. Children a cruel aren't people the

1:08:45

internet for hook. Or crook. Cellular.

1:08:47

Protect them So I get that same. In

1:08:50

our world is really strange where you

1:08:52

know it's so easy to just. Not

1:08:55

have a place. right? And

1:08:57

that's true for people who have on.

1:09:00

Any kind of. Thing.

1:09:02

That makes them different from someone else as

1:09:04

well as. A list Celebrities. I'm

1:09:07

so many friends that have. Ah,

1:09:10

Woody. Call that thing imposter syndrome

1:09:12

and I'm like your own you,

1:09:14

well, monsters. I think you're this.

1:09:17

Yet. But we still get it and

1:09:19

everybody everybody. I think that's the thing

1:09:22

to that A when people are attacking

1:09:24

celebrities online especially x twitter that date

1:09:26

we are not people and have emotions

1:09:28

and feel bad and feel sad Yes

1:09:30

we do. We are people that are

1:09:32

successful in this line of work and

1:09:35

it hurts our heart is you say

1:09:37

something mean So I think that those

1:09:39

for people who aren't well equipped to

1:09:41

handle as well as. Someone. Who's

1:09:43

wildly successful I think we all struggle with

1:09:45

Do we belong? Do we deserve this spot?

1:09:48

I'm Sylvia Good. Segue to six and

1:09:50

of zip into social media. You know

1:09:52

something that didn't exist when you when

1:09:54

I started auditioning of being you know

1:09:56

being of a character on a voiceover.

1:09:59

So with us. The anonymous way to

1:10:01

actually get work and make money. And

1:10:03

you know, I think. I don't wanna speak

1:10:05

for you but but I know for me there were

1:10:07

times when sat was. Really? My income you

1:10:09

know was was voice over stuff and there

1:10:11

were a me at that point. We thought

1:10:14

there were so many animated shows before there

1:10:16

were six thousand network but still there felt

1:10:18

that felt like there were more shows that

1:10:20

you could do voice overs for. Than you

1:10:22

know, be cast and and especially in I

1:10:24

I talk a lot about. What?

1:10:26

It was like being an actor in the eighties. Like if

1:10:28

you didn't have like blond hair, blue

1:10:30

eyes and very tiny features and look

1:10:33

like generic. Whatever. All American we're supposed. To

1:10:35

look like it was harder to get role

1:10:37

like that was the most of the rolls

1:10:39

worse. I like to say I grew up

1:10:41

watching television of like attractive people hooking up

1:10:43

with each other like my attractive people have

1:10:45

sex and different permutations with a lot of

1:10:47

the shows a voiceover work with this like

1:10:49

really safe haven arm and it was a

1:10:51

place where you know kids would know that

1:10:53

you were doing it or you know some

1:10:55

adults would be like on my kid likes

1:10:57

to watch that's but there was no real

1:10:59

like samer notoriety cut to. This.

1:11:02

Last. You know, I don't know.

1:11:04

It's sweaty years or so. I mean, I think

1:11:06

when I hadn't my first kid, I didn't even

1:11:08

have a smartphone. I think when I

1:11:10

had Fred my second one, I didn't

1:11:12

even have a smartphone when he was

1:11:14

born. So in the last you know,

1:11:17

fifteen twenty years your role has been

1:11:19

not just as an actress and a

1:11:21

voiceover you know, performer but you've become

1:11:23

you know a social media presence for

1:11:25

for publicity for all of these shows

1:11:28

that opens you up to have allowed

1:11:30

people knowing what you look like and

1:11:32

I would imagine it also opens you

1:11:34

up to a lot of ridiculous. Has

1:11:36

some social media reject? Ominous? Yeah, I'm.

1:11:39

I'm kinda curious. Like is this a double

1:11:41

edged sword? Yeah, you feel like same as

1:11:43

you manage your own stuff. Like I would

1:11:45

imagine, there's a lot of creepy. I'm gonna

1:11:47

say creepy dude because it's an expression. I'm

1:11:50

sure there's creepy ladies as well, but what

1:11:52

is that kind of attention like? How does

1:11:54

it change how you sort of conduct yourself.

1:11:57

To that question And you're So

1:11:59

right. Since the internet

1:12:01

people going oh who's the with of

1:12:03

this and then they know what they

1:12:05

look like and so yes I get

1:12:07

recognized in my real life not as

1:12:09

much as someone who does primarily on

1:12:11

camera but I do in it's usually

1:12:13

very sweet. Most of my then they're

1:12:15

very sweet and sometimes like there's you

1:12:17

know. I'm. Good.

1:12:20

Things that happen to you like I was

1:12:22

going a little fast you a job in

1:12:24

the police officer pulled me over and is

1:12:26

to the really big power puff girls and

1:12:28

is like I can give it a ticket

1:12:30

to a power puff girls I'm I will

1:12:32

I do have to say that of like

1:12:34

us world now now he knew who I

1:12:36

was I'd be like hey in case you

1:12:38

didn't know you happen to have children who

1:12:40

are of fans have a television so that

1:12:42

I'm only thing I haven't done that in

1:12:44

the scenario but ah was at the Apple

1:12:46

Store in New York. ah maybe six months

1:12:48

ago I had dropped my phone. Under the seat

1:12:50

and they know you know he they tell you

1:12:52

don't move your seat I moved my see it

1:12:54

was trust and I went in and they're like

1:12:57

we don't have an appointment with my like ah

1:12:59

another girl goes. Your

1:13:02

Miss Minutes. We cannot leave

1:13:04

miss minutes without a phone. You're going to

1:13:07

go upstairs to this other area and gets

1:13:09

taken care of so some. Others especially

1:13:11

around you know both times.

1:13:14

It's I mean it isn't really was is

1:13:16

like away from everyone else so they can

1:13:18

say that doesn't remember the sometimes it's nice.

1:13:21

Am I haven't had too

1:13:23

many terrible experiences in person

1:13:25

sometimes guys. Like. We talked

1:13:27

about get weird on but I have people

1:13:30

around me to help me. Ah I'm. The

1:13:33

weirdest was a guy who tried to adapt

1:13:35

themselves that light able. ah that was the

1:13:37

take the way he tried to touch himself

1:13:39

at my table so that was. A

1:13:42

certain part of themselves. Yeah, You.

1:13:46

Mean he came up the owners like because I'm looking

1:13:48

at you can be the that's where the mm. Yes,

1:13:53

a cop. Was

1:13:55

it the sound of your voice nowadays? In Out. Or

1:13:58

it was just. The. Did he? That you

1:14:00

were you are was like easier for

1:14:02

you. like me who is in my

1:14:04

line. he was a very large teenage

1:14:06

human ah with a dad that was

1:14:08

already holding him in place. He was

1:14:11

an unsteady human and he asked me

1:14:13

to read a character that he granted.

1:14:15

So I read it and he. Has

1:14:18

his pants and started to confess

1:14:20

himself and his dad like. And

1:14:26

there was. Like I mean

1:14:28

that happens to be at the supermarket. But I

1:14:30

did. my second, an avid Zero like that.

1:14:33

Yeah. So yeah so anyway that

1:14:35

like the worst but normally in

1:14:37

person people are kind and awesome

1:14:39

and I think I think animations

1:14:41

and or the sweetest in the

1:14:43

world. I love them social media.

1:14:45

I love to connect with them

1:14:47

in that way. I have spoken

1:14:49

to depressed people. I'm not lying

1:14:51

with guns in their mouth. I

1:14:53

like to help people. I like

1:14:55

to raise money. I raised millions

1:14:57

of dollars on Twitter for Kids

1:14:59

with cancer, various animal rescues someone

1:15:02

in need. I like helping. People:

1:15:04

I like promoting shows that I'm

1:15:06

on. I like making jokes. I

1:15:08

like meeting people feel good. I

1:15:10

like that element. I do not

1:15:12

like the bullying and I think

1:15:14

X is the worst. I

1:15:16

think of all the social media platforms,

1:15:18

I mean for that kind of conversation.

1:15:20

not that it's the worst platform. Yeah,

1:15:22

I think Twitter X is by far

1:15:25

the most bullying rampant says hey it's

1:15:27

free speech the we can tell you

1:15:29

to die bitch if we want to

1:15:31

place. I find it very hard

1:15:33

on my heart. of all the

1:15:35

of all the places and I just

1:15:37

wish I don't know why everybody can't

1:15:39

be trying to to each other. I

1:15:41

don't understand this piece but I do

1:15:43

know that there are a lot of

1:15:45

mentally disturbed people on these platforms. There

1:15:47

was a girl that told me I

1:15:49

should have been aborted during the original

1:15:51

Trump stuff that was going i as

1:15:53

very vocal arm and. Like put out

1:15:55

the Swede that I should have been aborted. All

1:15:57

my fans went after her and I was. Klein

1:16:00

and three very frail girl came

1:16:02

up to me. I mean lovably

1:16:04

One of them had cerebral palsy.

1:16:06

That's the level I'm talking about.

1:16:08

They were Not. Solid.

1:16:11

Confident humans and this growth and strong

1:16:13

your fans are really means My friend

1:16:15

and the girl with this guy was

1:16:17

like oh my God I'm arguing with

1:16:19

you. My army of fans are going

1:16:21

after you. I don't want that. I

1:16:24

don't want anyone arguing with you. And

1:16:26

so you have to be very careful

1:16:29

when you engage because know same people

1:16:31

don't want to go on the internet

1:16:33

and ruins. That's

1:16:35

not what seen people do. So.

1:16:38

Let's. Have a minute Partly

1:16:40

this into of. You. Know something

1:16:42

that isn't a delegate conversation that shouldn't

1:16:44

be. On. The

1:16:47

Television Institute. Posted.

1:16:50

A very interesting discussion of something

1:16:52

that recently happened to you. and

1:16:54

I'm they. They post the Oxford

1:16:57

Dictionary definition of islam a phobia

1:16:59

which is the dislike or unfair

1:17:01

treatment of islam or muslims. And

1:17:04

the reason that they felt

1:17:06

the need to define Islam

1:17:09

a phobia is that you

1:17:11

were. Accused of going on

1:17:13

and. Islam. Of phobic

1:17:15

spins on twitter acts. On.

1:17:20

For statements that objectively speaking

1:17:22

had nothing to do. With

1:17:24

Islam or Muslim People

1:17:26

for Fum you were

1:17:28

responding to the terrorist

1:17:30

organization. Some us I'm.

1:17:33

And you were not

1:17:35

just. Let. Go

1:17:38

of sired I hit. use the

1:17:40

word, I don't know why. So

1:17:42

afraid to say you were fired

1:17:44

from a job that also was

1:17:47

part of a is it of

1:17:49

Kickstarter tix. Take Kickstarter A kickstarter

1:17:51

that essentially utilize your power in

1:17:53

the industry to sell a project

1:17:56

and you were released with. Them

1:17:58

making a statement. it was Bandit

1:18:00

Mill Animation saying this was not

1:18:03

a difficult decision. They. Felt

1:18:05

very very secure and when I

1:18:07

looked through a variety of your

1:18:09

tweets I'm what I saw as

1:18:12

they you were. Praying. For

1:18:14

peace. You. Were I'm

1:18:16

expressing concern with all

1:18:18

suffering. That. Occurred a lot of

1:18:20

people don't know about half of the remaining.

1:18:23

Survivors. That

1:18:25

we estimate are are alive of

1:18:27

the hostages are actually I'm from

1:18:30

Thailand, their from Nepal. Some hold

1:18:32

I believe Mexican and French citizenship.

1:18:35

So there's a. Lot of people are

1:18:37

being held that you expressed. Concern

1:18:40

for I'm. The.

1:18:43

I'm. You

1:18:45

the notion that. That. Standing

1:18:47

with. Israel. Which

1:18:50

was in a one of the hash tags that

1:18:52

many of us were using. The notion that that

1:18:54

was interpreted as as lama phobic and as an

1:18:56

extension had you lose a job is. Pretty.

1:18:58

Astounding and I wonder.

1:19:02

Yeah. I wonder sort of what that feels

1:19:04

like also to be comfortable being open about

1:19:06

it. To say I'm a person who's a

1:19:08

humanitarian. Who prays for peace? Who is. Devastated

1:19:11

at the suffering that sets the people

1:19:14

of Gaza are experiencing. I'm and also

1:19:16

at the same time to be accused

1:19:18

of islam a phobia which is a

1:19:20

horrendous thing to be accused of because

1:19:22

it is horrendous to hate muslims or

1:19:24

Islam. Yeah I wonder

1:19:26

if you. If if you, i'm

1:19:29

not asking you to defend yourself, I don't think you

1:19:31

need to defend yourself, but I wonder if you can

1:19:33

speak to? It's in terms of the larger context of

1:19:35

what happens. In in the Forums of

1:19:37

social media. This

1:19:39

is why Twitter x is

1:19:42

dangerous. These interpretations

1:19:44

and things that people run with and

1:19:46

then get people to run with and

1:19:48

then press runs with. That

1:19:51

can be devastating. So I'm gonna

1:19:53

go back and say how this

1:19:55

happened. Like I say, I like

1:19:58

helping people and this guy. The

1:20:00

aim to me on twitter sent me

1:20:02

a Dm and said hey we're doing

1:20:04

a kickstarter for a pilot. I'm such

1:20:06

a big fan. I'd love to have

1:20:08

you played this character and I I

1:20:10

don't typically do things from fans could.

1:20:12

I don't know who these people are

1:20:14

but he was very sweet and showed

1:20:16

me some of the arts and I

1:20:18

recognize that he was working with some

1:20:20

people who did have some a good

1:20:22

experience in the business and then. He.

1:20:24

Told me with the union and I said i

1:20:27

really appreciate this I wish you all the best

1:20:29

but I cannot do a non union projects and

1:20:31

he came back to me like the teams willing

1:20:33

to go union to have you. And

1:20:35

we had a dialogue. We had a. Online

1:20:38

friendship going as a great I hook

1:20:40

him up with my age and arguably

1:20:42

the biggest animation agent in the world.

1:20:45

Spends half a day helping this kid

1:20:47

learn about Sag how to get a

1:20:49

ah low budget Screen Actors Guild contract.

1:20:52

All these things. It was a very

1:20:54

collaborative process. I do the job for

1:20:56

less than I would do something else

1:20:59

or like get your that Sag less

1:21:01

rate whatever they call that. I'm. I

1:21:04

go on their kickstarter. I help them

1:21:06

raise my i'm All in. October

1:21:09

Seventh happens. October

1:21:12

Seventh. And. This fight.

1:21:14

Is. Something. Very important to me

1:21:16

that I've been in for a very long time.

1:21:18

When I was a kid, there was a swastika.

1:21:21

Sprayed. On our Synagogue that my mom was

1:21:23

therefore that my dad was my grandfather was a

1:21:25

kid was the A. Can't

1:21:27

My parents My mom and her mom ran

1:21:30

the catering business with our synagogue and it's

1:21:32

had died you pigs and when I was

1:21:34

sixteen I went on the marks of the

1:21:36

living. We had stone throwing stones thrown out

1:21:38

of us. We had a soft swastika thrown

1:21:41

are drawn on our bus when we're going

1:21:43

to Auschwitz. My Dominic it was still quite

1:21:45

anti semitic, although there were beautiful moments. We

1:21:47

were dancing at a synagogue outside and his

1:21:49

old man walk by and he said. It

1:21:51

been so long since he'd see the jews come

1:21:54

home. It was very beautiful, but it was also

1:21:56

still at some attic. Went. To Israel

1:21:58

after that had the best time. I

1:22:00

was singing in the choir there for

1:22:02

Peace for Understanding. I came back. I

1:22:04

sang for Arnold Schwarzenegger for Peace for

1:22:06

Understanding. I've been working for over a

1:22:09

decade with an amazing org com Children

1:22:11

of Peace that brings Arab Israeli families

1:22:13

together in Israel. this is settling very

1:22:15

important to me. I.

1:22:18

Am a human. As I said before,

1:22:20

that shared light and love and I

1:22:22

don't want anyone to suffer as anywhere.

1:22:24

I don't understand how this planet's still

1:22:26

have wars. I. Don't understand.

1:22:29

We've learned nothing. No

1:22:31

one should ever be on alive for

1:22:33

some meat. North Assists cause like that's

1:22:35

just insane to me that we still

1:22:37

have work on a ceasefire around the

1:22:39

world. I've sent thousands of dollars to

1:22:41

try to Doctors without Borders and sent

1:22:44

thousands of dollars to help people in

1:22:46

Gaza. I pray for them every day

1:22:48

I have family there. I have fifty

1:22:50

family members and friends in Israel like

1:22:52

these are my people. This is important

1:22:54

to me and this fight for freedom,

1:22:56

for everybody to be respected and to

1:22:58

gather and live in love and peace.

1:23:01

And light is important to

1:23:03

me. And that David Devastating

1:23:05

and I tweeted. They.

1:23:07

Were smart To start with the people

1:23:09

love to hate because there were celebrations.

1:23:11

People were in the streets quoting Hum

1:23:13

month statements. Oh you are

1:23:16

a beautiful day. The want to see this

1:23:18

happen over and over. So I say it

1:23:20

was smart for them to start with a

1:23:22

place with a country people love to hate

1:23:24

and that kid. We tweeted it. Or

1:23:27

even have you the get on a whole The As

1:23:29

retreated and said this is disappointing. I'm like. What's.

1:23:31

Disappointing. I'm speaking about Hamas. I'm

1:23:34

speaking about a terrorist sword and

1:23:36

them they were saying no. I

1:23:38

was speaking about. Muslims.

1:23:41

And the press bought it. But there's. Evidence

1:23:43

that tweet was on the tenth of October.

1:23:46

Israel. Didn't go into Gaza. On.

1:23:48

The tenth of October and also Gaza isn't

1:23:51

a country I said is a country people

1:23:53

love to hate, but they took my words

1:23:55

and they spawn it. And also on that

1:23:57

day or a few days later there was

1:23:59

a. "We bet that Hamas is Isis

1:24:01

and I like debts and I also

1:24:03

like to tweet that", said "Thank you for

1:24:06

speaking up for the children and" About.

1:24:08

Twenty minutes later, much, oh, I didn't read the

1:24:10

entire tweet and it said something about like. Islam.

1:24:13

You know is a problem. Something like unlike that.

1:24:16

within twenty minutes of oh my god, that's not

1:24:18

like I just met it. Too fast happens happens.

1:24:20

When I'm doing a script I'll read. I've got

1:24:22

a script in front of me. I read something

1:24:24

completely different. Sure, And they took that

1:24:26

and a picture I post of Shiny Luke

1:24:29

from my friend who is a Muslim activists

1:24:31

low weight. You know him. He's amazing ascending

1:24:33

his death. He and I've been friends long

1:24:35

before October seventh and he posted a picture

1:24:38

that said this is not freedom meaning the

1:24:40

rape of these women and people to not

1:24:42

even though he was a Muslim post and

1:24:44

they took that to the press and the

1:24:47

press bought it which was heartbreaking by the

1:24:49

way. The rest of the tweet that said

1:24:51

thanks for I'm standing up for our children

1:24:54

The rest of that tweet was. That the

1:24:56

Jews are killing. That.

1:24:58

Was up for two days with my like on

1:25:00

it's Nobody said anything. Didn't. Make

1:25:02

The Press does. It didn't fit the

1:25:04

narrative that I was a terrible person.

1:25:06

Rights And I do think now that

1:25:08

I know. How. The

1:25:10

press operates rights. You can say, oh, the

1:25:13

Jews run Hollywood. There's a lot of Jews

1:25:15

and Holy Moly certainly don't run the press

1:25:17

right. You see how much negative there is.

1:25:19

And unless you're a Jewish person saying I

1:25:21

don't want to be Jewish anymore, you're in

1:25:23

a long without. right?

1:25:26

You can't say anything with have been attacking

1:25:28

you even do a this is an important

1:25:30

thing to me. I'm sending them money. I

1:25:32

love all people it doesn't matter. Your entire

1:25:35

world is defined by you accidently liking it.

1:25:37

Tweets if you accidentally like the wrong to

1:25:39

eat and that makes you a terrible person,

1:25:42

we are all in really big trouble. Trust

1:25:44

me, when you died and I could be

1:25:46

like which tweeted you accidently like. right?

1:25:50

I. it's just. It was

1:25:52

so heartbreaking to see so many people coming

1:25:54

at me when. I all I

1:25:56

want to do a spread. Love and Light and Help. It's all

1:25:58

I want to do and it's it's. Don't dare. People

1:26:00

are so mean you can't we anything

1:26:03

now without people going you know your

1:26:05

a Jewish genocide her rescue us I

1:26:07

think that yeah and I think he

1:26:09

was sort of with my experience has

1:26:11

been is you know anyone who's listen

1:26:13

to me for any number. Of years

1:26:16

or decades before. October Seventh knows

1:26:18

that You know I've been an

1:26:20

advocate for Palestinian rights. For Palestinian

1:26:22

dignity. For. A restructuring of many

1:26:25

policies of the Israeli governments. But

1:26:27

when it comes down to it, if

1:26:29

someone has. A problem with the fact that

1:26:31

I believe Israel should exist. We're.

1:26:33

Gonna have a fundamental problem because

1:26:35

I can hold both of those

1:26:37

things I said hold loves and

1:26:39

space for both people in my

1:26:41

heart and in a geographic place.

1:26:43

And for me, You know, I think

1:26:45

what you're talking about is really people

1:26:48

showing showing their cards to a certain

1:26:50

extent. You know if their fundamental issue

1:26:52

is that you believe that Israel should

1:26:54

exist, then unfortunately, it doesn't matter, right?

1:26:57

It's. Insane Like these people who I

1:26:59

think you're right, don't know that the

1:27:01

things they're chanting the hamas based chance

1:27:04

you're asking for me to the analyze.

1:27:06

You're. Asking for me and people that I love to not

1:27:09

exist. It's so

1:27:11

crazy to me that

1:27:13

people are so outwardly

1:27:15

vocally. Recently anti semitic

1:27:17

and they say no or not.

1:27:19

Yes, they are anti Semitic crimes

1:27:21

or up over and percent. Like

1:27:23

you said, it's at every college.

1:27:26

It's online every day. Every single

1:27:28

day in my inbox I get

1:27:30

Dies and Ironist. See you Next

1:27:32

is A every day. And.

1:27:36

It. Doesn't matter if I say I'm pro peace, I

1:27:39

want everyone to. Have Love! I want

1:27:41

everyone to be on my little pony and

1:27:43

I got my brain where I want everybody

1:27:45

to me you know, and cartoons are way

1:27:47

ahead of that game. Rugrats had black family

1:27:49

Jewish families. cartoons are all colors of the

1:27:51

rainbow they worship every one day. Love f

1:27:53

They love whoever they want to love and

1:27:55

we all love each other. We. Could

1:27:57

all learn some cartoons accident. That

1:28:00

coexisting is you know there

1:28:02

are beautiful, beautiful or eggs

1:28:04

in Israel hands hand in

1:28:06

hand schools. Were. Kids

1:28:08

are to gather Muslim Jewish. Everyone's

1:28:11

together to fight. Should be against

1:28:13

terrorism from everyone. There should be

1:28:15

no justification for terrorism. There should

1:28:18

be no justification for rape. You

1:28:20

should be able to say I'm

1:28:22

praying for these children to be

1:28:25

returned to their parents without being

1:28:27

pulled a Zionist. See you next

1:28:29

Tuesday! If a kid was

1:28:32

kidnapped in your neighborhood, Derby signs everywhere. people wouldn't

1:28:34

be tearing them. don't. Have

1:28:36

that the people hate Jews because they're at

1:28:39

war is insane. Around the world. They don't

1:28:41

hate. Christians. Because America's

1:28:43

at war. Do. It

1:28:45

Israel has Jews, christians,

1:28:47

Hindus, Druze, Muslims, everybody

1:28:49

is a country you can hate the

1:28:52

way Netanyahu's done things. You can hate

1:28:54

certain policies, but the hate an entire

1:28:56

group of people is stupid. I don't

1:28:58

Nobody said. And the fact that there's

1:29:01

all this very vocal hatred for Jewish

1:29:03

people is terrifying. I don't understand why

1:29:05

they're more are more arrests at some

1:29:07

of these rallies where people are causing.

1:29:10

Pretty. Terrible vandalism. A guy died,

1:29:13

a guy died in California. You

1:29:16

know it used to be when Black Lives Matter was

1:29:18

at it's peak we knew to share the mike. Now

1:29:20

it feels like not only do they not want to

1:29:22

show the mike they were taken from us and his

1:29:24

over that and kill us look like I got killed

1:29:26

by a megaphone. Like.

1:29:28

If I'm saying this field anti semitic, believe me,

1:29:31

I grew up with this. It's in my blood.

1:29:33

My grandmother escape the Pope programs at sixteen she

1:29:35

put her all her family on a boat or

1:29:37

mom said if I died sir fault she saves

1:29:39

a generation. This. Is in our blood to.

1:29:42

Any Jewish person today is alive

1:29:44

because your ancestors survived being hunted,

1:29:47

Period. Don't. Hate Jews You

1:29:49

can hate a policy you can hate a

1:29:51

war I he hours most used you know

1:29:53

do once genocide node you wanted innocent person

1:29:56

to suffer We want invite you over for

1:29:58

multiple soup period. Thank.

1:30:01

You Karen I'm. It's

1:30:04

It's a pleasure to get to talk to you about

1:30:06

such a variety of things. From you know, from

1:30:09

your voice over career to the magic

1:30:11

that you bring to your. Love. For

1:30:13

all people, and it's as it seems,

1:30:15

it seems so fitting that you get

1:30:17

to live this life. You know where

1:30:19

you are creating characters that bring

1:30:22

so much joy. To so many

1:30:24

people. Where can

1:30:26

we tell? people serve to find you? Where

1:30:28

do you like to direct people? That can

1:30:30

we plugged for you. Wow!

1:30:32

I'm still on all social media

1:30:34

platforms believe it or not I

1:30:36

still believe people are good and

1:30:38

still gonna keep pushing for all

1:30:40

of the charity work that I

1:30:42

do and helping people and making

1:30:44

people feel good and seen an

1:30:46

important matters to me some still

1:30:48

there at Tara Strong. I'm also

1:30:50

at Her A Strong on Instagram

1:30:52

and on Tic Tac and I'm

1:30:54

I'm going to be for the

1:30:56

first time releasing a class with

1:30:58

all my secrets be ties at

1:31:01

every single time. Someone says and on

1:31:03

mine had again the voiceover. Really wanna get

1:31:05

into voice our and it is not a

1:31:07

simple one answer question and I've never done

1:31:09

it before because it is such a small

1:31:11

group of people that find success that I

1:31:13

didn't want to take someone's money and not

1:31:15

be able to offer a reward and I

1:31:18

can't guarantee myself much. I saw blood on

1:31:20

anyone else so I didn't do it before

1:31:22

but at one point my boyfriend like you

1:31:24

get asked us all the time why didn't

1:31:26

you tell them what you can and make

1:31:28

it a community? So I've been working on

1:31:30

it for over. A. Year I recorded hours and

1:31:33

hours of dialogue. sort of like masterclass with

1:31:35

all my secrets. There's a lot of weird

1:31:37

shit to are a lot of magic set

1:31:39

of how I create a character, What I

1:31:42

do everything you need to know to get

1:31:44

in. it's but it's going to be a

1:31:46

community where we all get to see ourselves

1:31:48

and hear ourselves animated and work together. And

1:31:50

I'm here for people for auditions and blah

1:31:53

de blah blah blah that's be coming out

1:31:55

soon. It's all done and edited and unlike

1:31:57

so happy with it is. It's like I

1:31:59

said. Not ah, guaranteeing you work, it's teaching

1:32:01

you all of my little secrets and what I

1:32:03

do and I'm just sharing with inmate crazy brain

1:32:06

with every city, where will people be able to

1:32:08

find that I'll announce it on all my social

1:32:10

platform. Who? and I don't say the name yet

1:32:12

as it came to me kind of like a

1:32:15

god son of kind of fun. So it's only

1:32:17

the hair. Okay, great. It's really really was so

1:32:19

great to see. You. And I'm also really

1:32:21

appreciate you sharing, you know, and not

1:32:24

just everything going on, but specifically what's

1:32:26

been going on regarding Israel. Stuff. So

1:32:28

thank you so much. Think. He thanks for

1:32:30

having me. Oh.

1:32:34

I know what you're going to say. Jonathan. What?

1:32:36

Am I good as a. You. Can't believe that

1:32:38

I know someone. Who. Believes in

1:32:41

so many awesome things like crystals and

1:32:43

magic. And I never tells you about it. I've

1:32:46

been keeping you away from her. Well.

1:32:48

As good as his. She's. Hazard

1:32:51

Life Mission of Spreading. Light

1:32:54

and love. You. Can spread light, love

1:32:56

and science. Why

1:32:58

do you have to? May be competitive with Thera? It was. Put

1:33:01

into i'm just saying you know as

1:33:03

I'm models to live by. As

1:33:05

and co a lot more spread. Enlighten Love!

1:33:07

I'm into it. I used to have Asia

1:33:09

email when I was there. Some lives. There's.

1:33:12

A lot of worry I was if

1:33:14

it isn't as know tell you it's

1:33:16

allies Niger. It was a Rivera. Light.

1:33:19

Of at we love to embarrass

1:33:21

you or your email. Was.

1:33:24

It like know if so there's a

1:33:26

few people and draw know that know

1:33:28

what email was a hotmail account. Oh

1:33:31

males. And. You

1:33:34

know, I feel like. In. My. Late

1:33:37

teens, early twenties. I had. I.

1:33:40

Mean, I was a little naive, but

1:33:42

I was unabashedly. Pursuing

1:33:44

that type of like leading with

1:33:47

love Them as it was. Just

1:33:50

the I was like the world is just needs

1:33:52

all of that. And.

1:33:54

Then I. Decided. I had to

1:33:57

make a living somehow and it all practical.

1:33:59

Reality said it. In In I feel like

1:34:01

I lost some of that. I mean as

1:34:03

think it's my foundation and I I I

1:34:05

believe for believe that when you come back

1:34:07

to a place of love and he always

1:34:09

spoken about this on the show. or and

1:34:11

even if you come back to the science

1:34:13

of what is it means actually lead with

1:34:15

love. Over. You and

1:34:17

give it a silliness of why I think

1:34:19

it actually ties back into the some of

1:34:22

the stuff we're talking about in terms of

1:34:24

having more. Cognitive. Flexibility.

1:34:26

I. Think that positivity positivity gets a

1:34:29

bad. Rap You know I'm because are

1:34:31

toxic positivity which is not what we're

1:34:33

talking about. Know there's toxic positivity which

1:34:36

I mean that fuel. Subsidies. But

1:34:38

yeah, there's there's toxic

1:34:40

positivity. There's also. Lip service.

1:34:42

You know, lot of people give lip service to lot.

1:34:44

Of this stuff and and event is once

1:34:46

you can like by the slogan on a

1:34:48

tea towel you know that you can buy

1:34:51

in Tj Maxx which is a place that

1:34:53

I happen to love and not disparaging Tj

1:34:55

Maxx. but once you can buy that slogan

1:34:57

on a t tell it's he's a Max.

1:34:59

it can definitely lose some of the the

1:35:01

depths and the new buses and the power

1:35:03

behind it. But if you'd like to have

1:35:05

a happy saying on it he tell. By

1:35:08

all means go for it. but

1:35:10

the larger and. And deeper notion which

1:35:12

in some ways makes it a smaller notion because

1:35:14

it. Literally starts just with you raise

1:35:16

what's between your two years of.

1:35:19

This notion that. What?

1:35:21

Positivity feels like. Your brain

1:35:23

is an opening. And. It's

1:35:25

more choice and it's

1:35:28

more flexible and it

1:35:30

is open. And

1:35:32

the opposite of that, That.

1:35:34

Small mindedness. You know

1:35:36

it's some. It's. A buzz

1:35:38

kill. It's a it's a joy

1:35:40

kill it is a closing I'm I've been

1:35:42

dealing with them health stuff recently and since

1:35:44

tell you how many doctors are like your

1:35:47

we're gonna figure this out and I need

1:35:49